/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #293

First for actually making models

first for more shitposting

>leave the shitposting at the door and come on in
good joke

4th for we coulda nipped this shit in the bud

Reminder that there's only 8 and a half more hours until the polls close. First reminder post I made a few hours ago was off because I was accounting for the wrong timezone.

>>221906450
glad you liked it

>>221906521
5th for this unironically shouldn't be a problem, please keep it in your pants.

>>221906435
>spending years of your life learning 3d modeling so you can say "i made this" when a better version of what you want is probably on sketchfab somewhere.

give me one reason why to not kick him off

nth for head pat meetup when?

>>221906585
That's not the issue. We shouldn't have to keep anything in our pants, but that wont work with kids around.

>>221906613
If you do that then who will fingergun me at night?

Cum fountains are a great feature of the meetups.

>>221906613
nice foot shot, gonna fap to it later.

>>221906613
he's the only person at the meetup that greets me every time he sees me

>>221906550
Thinking of voting yes. Any objection involving Discord changing the nature of the community is irrelevant when so many have been using it for months anyway.

>>221906613
fuck off ashei

>>221906650
You never know when a kid might be around so the only solution is to keep it in your pants.

>>221906646
capitalize my name right next time, please

>>221906707
This is photoshopped, it simply does not happen. Stop trying to take children away from me!

>make lewd model in custom maid
>160k poly import
suck my low poly cock

>>221906895
I've never had one above 80k.

>>221906707
Now with actual children!

Any way to increase voice volume in onward or reduce the other sounds? All the sounds but voice are so high

>>221906895
make it 120k polys so it's only two meshes max when you bring it into unity and you'll be fine

>>221906756
muh inner circles meme came true with the 20 discords we have already and that fucked up /vrg/ beyond repair
another discord won't change anything

>>221906625
shit we havent done one of these in ages, im down for another

>>221907116
vrg was fucked before that, you baboon

>>221906625
>>221907150
Just make sure to confirm that everyone in the room is 18 years or older and consents first.

rubjellyonme
operations
6969
onward

>>221906951
>>221907015
on a related note what's the default shapekey button in 3DCM2 or whatever the fuck
one of the things I downloaded has me customizing size/angle through them

>>221906965
I wish I knew. I never can hear anyone in it.
>>221907326
Are these "special" headpats?

Oh fuck yeah I can't wait to headpat some kids, oh yeah...

>>221907116
>>221907243
It was 'fucked' in January when people started using Discord to contact each other outside the game. It's inevitable.

>>221906613

>>221907381
Select the left most pose before T posing in game.

>>221907448
discord isnt the fault, its the normalfags

Jesus Christ reddit. If you’re going to drop portals and put yourself in charge of the room, you need to be prepared to kick underaged children. This is a 4chan community and children are not allowed. Do not drop portals if you’re going to refuse to do this. It’s not up for debate. If you somehow think it’s okay to have a 14 year old girl around who says “age is just a number” to a bunch of thirsty autists, then please fuck off. Use your head.

>>221907706
Dropping the portal doesn’t give you the right to moderate the meet ups. Votekick or stfu

>>221907590
How would you define them as that or not in this community? I guess anyone willing to do a real life meet up is automatically so.

>>221907947
This. Dropping a portal does not make you a leader, votekick someone if you have an issue. If people don't want to vote to kick then I guess too bad, looks like the majority doesn't care.

>>221907994
t. "i-im not normal cus im on 4chan"

>>221906646
Zeldabro is a registered sex offender and not even allowed near children, cut him some slack

>>221906625
Host it, fagget

> real life meet up

Jesus fucking christ, his perversion is growing, he wants to fuck them IRL too

>>221907947
Underaged kids are banned. This is a fact. Vote kick isn’t reliable because they often come with their own orbiters. If you really want to be around 14 year old girls, go hang out with a comminunity that isn’t strictly 18+.

>>221908191
>Underaged kids are banned. This is a fact.
Only a fact if most people want to go through with it.

>>221908191
Guess we kick dot

>>221908191
Have you thought maybe this community is not for you?
The minors aren't getting votekicked.
You're shitting up the place by running around as if you're on fire.
You're making a big deal over nothing.

>>221908494
hahaha based

Dots underage and should be kicked from the meetups

>>221907561
No I mean within CDM3D2, not exported

>>221908494
Too late, I already emailed the full list with screenshots.

>>221908439
>Have you thought maybe this community is not for you?

"Stop complaining, just let me have these children okay?"
That's what you just said.

>>221907448
none of my friends either internet or irl has VR and I wanted to play other VR games

>>221908439
4chan is an 18+ site. it's the equivalent of a pornhub vrchat community allowing minors

>>221908316
It’s a global rule dipshit. We can’t rely on vote kicks because they often join with others from outside 4chan. The room owner needs to enforce the rule. If they’re unwilling to kick 14 year old girls who say “age is just a number” then they shouldn’t fucking portal drop. That’s all there is to it.

>>221908191
how do we know u511 is underage? I have only ever heard this said in the thread

>>221908569
Yes, the left most pose in CM3D2 has all the shapekeys on 0.

>>221908727
Guess you should drop the portals from now on then and kick them yourself since you want to dictate what everyone else should be doing.
And if you won't? Then I guess nothing will change and you'll continue to bitch here in the endless anonymous void while they keep coming to the meetups with no one giving a shit because they're not being disruptive.

>>221908596
And here's the problem.
You're immediately putting reasonable people who don't abuse room moderation into this box who fuck children.
You're not convincing anyone with that kind of argument.

>>221908439
18+ community. See global rule #2. If you want children around, this is not the right community for you, as they are quite literally banned.

>>221908837
It's a global rule, you pedo fuck

>>221908494
>Name is on the list
WTF NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DONT WANT KIDS AT THE MEETUPS NO NO NO NO AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>221908756
I've heard it in game.

>>221907367
I'll get home in about 50 minsm might need to swap to pvp since others might wanna hop on at this time

>>221908851
What? You mean if I call the person I'm arguing with a pedophile/racist/nazi/insertbuzzwordhere it doesn't convince them to my see my side of the argument?
>>221908894
Okay? You can keep saying that all you want but nothing's going to happen unless you personally make it happen by dropping the portals or votekicking.

>>221908756
You can literally ask him. It's old knowledge

>>221908851
It’s abuse for them NOT to kick 14 year old girls who say “age is just a number” in a 4chan community where underaged children are banned.

>>221908494
>the one who got banned for trying to get kids out is on the list
>the one who started this whole shtick is on the list

>>221909039
File a police report for child abuse then. Contact CPS and give them our VRChat names.

>>221909039
Sounds like she is trying to trick someone when will these girls learn there are consequences for their actions

>>221908851
This attitude is going to get us in trouble, Yuru.

>>221908756
In tupper's anime discord, you can literally search there

>>221908494
Do it fucker. No one's mind is ever going to change from how your argument is being presented. Most people in the meetups do not see this as an issue (nor do they bother to read the thread apparently) so the status quo on this will likely not ever change.

>>221909218
Anime truly is a brain rot on our children

>>221909218
Jesus christ

>>221909296
Good, because i already sent it and got a response lol

Hibecca's age, from tupper's discord.

>>221909218
sorry but the underageb& has to go!

>>221909164
Sure. We can also just hope that people will respect the global rule and not drop portals if they’re unwilling to kick 14 year old girls.

You guys all waited to turn 18 before you started posting here right?
...Right?

I cannot believe he is desktopper now!

>>221909214
that's not me
I'm for an 18+ rule, I'm just not going to enforce something like that without a consensus in the community for doing so.
The "other side" of this debate wants me to begin booting them immediately and also booting anyone who complains, with very little explanation other than "fuck off".

>>221909296
>Most people in the meetups do not see this as an issue

So if everyone in a house is a pedophile, that means fucking kids isn't an issue, right?
That's what you're saying?

>>221909445
That's irrelevant and a stupid thing to say. We all pretended to be 18, and we would have rightly been removed if we were found out. Why is it different now?

>>221909493
He's saying you're a fucking retard for suggesting anyone that disagrees with you is a pedophile, yet you continue to make that same argument even though he's telling you you're not going to convince anyone that way.

>>221909386
LOL forgot image

>>221909445
That doesn't matter. We didn't go around telling adults "age is just a number" and trying to get them to lewd us.

>>221909445
no but i didnt advertise that fact either

>>221909591
so as long as everyone pretends that makes it ok then?

>>221909483
>with very little explanation other than "fuck off".

They are breaking the global 18+ rule, this is a 4chan group, the group is 18+.
You're sounding suspect yourself by being so coy, kiddy fiddling isn't exactly a subject to be sitting on the fence about.

>>221909483
Doesn't matter much, mod involvement is happening now.

>>221909004
They wont drop a portal. They know no one actually cares enough join their portal or enough to vote kick the kiddos. Let them just babble here endlessly

>>221909483
Okay, so explain nicely. I've been trying to drag out of you some kind of conditions that will make you okay with kicking kids and I get nothing.. All I'm getting back has me believing you would rather wax enlightened neutral party instead of doing ANYTHING.

>>221909698
No
The people driving this want the whole anime discord gone. That's why you saw compat's name as often as hibecca's when this started.
They want me to boot her and then genocide the anime discord when they invariably get upset.

I am for an 18+ rule but we need to do it right and with community consensus, and the change needs to be clearly explained to the affected parties.

I am not your leader and I am not going to war with the anime discord for you.

>>221909591
But if the whole thing is about protecting children from what they see from our meetups, then why would it matter whether or not someone is pretending to be 18? It doesn't matter whether someone is pretending to be 18 or not, people who aren't 18 browse this website, and if the people here apparently care so much about children, they'd realize that and stop doing their lewding shit, but they won't because they're hypocrites who believe in "she said she was 18 officer!"
>>221909643
Do you even have any proof of her ever saying age is just a number or is this about as valid as cat apparently watching dot masturbate or something?

>>221909483
You shouldn’t need a straw poll to tell you that having 14 year old girls in a 4chan community is bad. If you do, there were already two polls that clearly showed we shouldn’t have kids. Either way, the consensus is that they aren’t allowed because it’s literally a global rule. It’s awful for the children themselves that you would let them stick around. Use your head.

>>221909445
I don't think I'd even heard of 4chan before I was 20.

>>221909694
I'm telling you the kid isn't at fault for doing what teenagers do best. Of course hibecca and u511 want to hang with the adults. It's our responsibility to put a stop to it.

>>221909940
>He doesn't know

>>221909493
Ridiculous and excessive responses like that aren't helping you. If you really feel that you're doing /vrg/ a favor by pushing to remove kids, then bring it up at the meetup. Do a debate right and publicly attach your name to your cause so people don't just write you off as a shitposting troublemaker. Stop shitting up the thread.

>>221909910
I don't think anyone aside from orb is targetting the anime discord. Kick the kids, adults can stay.

>>221908937
alright

>>221909957
There could be children here right now pretending to be 18. By your logic you are an awful, horrible person by doing anything that could be considered lewd when there is the possibility that someone here is underage but lying about it.

>>221909698
>>221909869
not them but heres the thing. if these kids are around the internet, they know whats up already. because lets not pretend we all obeyed the 18+ warnings on websites.

that said, most of (all 2 of) them know to skedaddle when shit gets risque. they aren't stupid.

of course the other issue is, one of them has been part of vrg for a fair while now. and it feels kind of awkward to just boot him now all of a sudden when it wasnt a problem before and hes been with us for a while

>>221910049
Hi I'm not orb and I wish the dog teens would fuck off and kill themselves. I would crash them on sight but I don't know how to make a crasher.

>>221909445
i found this place looking for WoW hentai (back when it was actually hard to find for the average low iq14 year old in the year 2005)

>>221908910
dood me too

>>221910132
>that said, most of (all 2 of) them know to skedaddle when shit gets risque. they aren't stupid.
I repeat, for the third time, someone was talking to hibecca about eating girls out with full knowledge of her age and she did not skedaddle.

>>221909940
But dots a dishwasher and drinks sometimes how is he underage?

>>221910092
I'm not doing anything lewd here, it's a blue board.
If I do Lewd things on a red board then it's THEIR fault because they agree to the conditions of viewing a red board.
There's no conditions protecting this group on VRC. I'm telling you right now, we are going to get fucking hammered.

>>221908494
Fuck it, I send an email with this list and evidence I have too. Let this place fucking burn

>>221910132
Neither of these people have ever been a problem. It's only a problem now that sick fucks found out they can't lewd them because they're underage and now they're projecting their pedophile desires onto the rest of us.

Onward is free this weekend so DOWNLOAD IT. No excuse.

No date yet but it will very probably be hosted by the usual.

REQUIERIMENTS:
The fucking mod. Come on it's not even hard to install and it works now. Probably. Surely.
http://ec2-18-216-140-213.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/Onward%20-%20Big%20Instances.zip
Replace the existing file in the Managed folder of the Onward installation directory, just as you would do with the vrchat mod.

>>221909869
Well let's see here.
A couple more people have talked to me over the course of the day about wanting an 18+ rule, that is a good start. The feedback was very much appreciated.

If the community discord passes, I'm going to have a discussion with people about it there. If it doesn't, we'll hash it out in soccer for a bit before it closes.

Then I'll probably talk to some of the thought leaders in the anime discord about the situation and how it's probably best if the younger ones start hanging out elsewhere.

That's probably the proper way to take care of this and probably what I'm going to do.
Not that it's really my job to do all of this because as I've stated like 100 times I'm not the leader around here, but I guess I'm going to do it anyway because we've reached this point.

>>221909957
straw polls are utterly unreliable
This post: >>221909869
isn't too far off the mark, I'm not particularly inclined to do anything if I can get away with it because I just want to take it easy. I'm definitely not going to do something that's going to cause a lot of drama and work for me to sort out, and we all know you can rig a strawpoll in moments even if it's something stupid like how you shouldn't brush your teeth ever.
I'm going to follow the plan I outlined above, make sure the community is fine with it and that it's not going to cause excessive drama, and then let the affected parties know about the change.

not that it's my job, but here we are I guess

>>221909698
>kiddy fiddling isn't exactly a subject to be sitting on the fence about
Your problem is as if no one knows this already.
You sound like SJWs who put tyranny and oppression in the foot of men and shame them for it.
Unless you have proof that someone is being a predator, then you have no valid reason to run around on fire over someone being a minor at a meetup.

>>221906587
>years

>>221909910
Stop trying to make it more than it is to justify your inaction. This is an 18+ community. Kick the children or don’t drop portals. You can only be neutral if you stop dropping portals, otherwise you’re willingly putting yourself in this position. Use your fucking head. These are children. It’s not the time to play mayor.

>>221910347
If I get it for free right now will I continue to own it after the free period as some games have been known to do in the past or will it be removed from my library?

>this thread right now

>>221910468
Removed, free "trial" weekend.

>>221910468
you'll only be able to play this weekend. After it, you'll probably want to buy the game because it's fun enough.

>>221910297
I had a job and drank at 15 too, I'm a (mostly) functional adult now.

>>221910573
Okay, that's fine. Thanks for clarifying that for me mate!

>>221910567
I'm thinking of myself. I don't want a shotgun ban because one of you tries to fuck a 15 year old girl's pixel vagina

>>221910664
So it's the 15 year old girl's fault if some dumbass tries to fuck her?

>>221910450
I opened two of the dozens of portals last night.
If you're handing out advice about what people should be doing, maybe you should be helping lay some of the groundwork to make this viable instead of just screaming at me to do it.

I promise you that just hamfistedly going crazy with kicking people won't accomplish anything.
I get shit for being mad with power for putting a tiny crown on my avatar, you think I can just start banishing people?

God I wanna hear hibecca moan on my PENIS

>>221910726
Nowhere did I say that. It's not a teenager's fault that an adult takes advantage of him or her.

>>221910664
This, this and this.
I'm not getting tarred by the same brush as some of you cunts because you're fucked in the head.

>>221910450
Don't like the children? Don't come to the meetups.
Again, people who disagree with you aren't pedophiles. Get over your moral crusade and irrational reasoning.

>>221910384
Stop acting like we’re trying to make you into a leader who has to fix things. The issue is that you keep dropping portals, putting yourself in a position to either act or not. Don’t fucking drop portals if you want to be neutral. Otherwise, kick the kids or go fuck yourself.

I don't really go to meetups, so I don't care what you guys do, but I do hope there isn't some shotgun banning cause some of you are alright

>>221910832
Your argument is fine until people notice that you want to keep the children AND keep the lewd activities.
You cannot reasonably have both at the same time in the same place and claim to be innocent.

>>221910832
I can't believe the meetups are now only for people younger than the age of 18.

>>221910798
So then we agree that sick fucks who want to ERP with children are the problem.
So why is this argument viewed as the people who don't care about having underage at the meetup are exactly the same as those who want to fuck children? Furthermore, how would you get shotgun banned because one person is trying to lewd a minor? You might as well say everyone should be on their best behavior 100% of the time and never lewd or never have any kind of illegal avatars like ones that are nude or have racist symbolism or something on them because if one person does something wrong, we can all be shotgun banned for it.

So shouldn't your problem not be with these two 16 year olds, but with the rest of the group?

>>221911062
>Age is just a number
According to her

>meetups are a honeypot

>>221910739
You really don't realize you're the only one with enough pull to organize this, do you? You are the most respected person here.

>>221910739
If you need to be neutral, then don’t open any at all. You’re putting yourself in this position.

>>221911087
How new are you? vrchat devs are known to shotgun ban to catch one guy. This is old news. we have a mod who goes invisible at our meetups and jerks off watching us

>>221911105
Yeah it's ok if the 55 year old boomer wants to fuck her! Just a number!

Reminder VRChat mods already have precedence on shotgun bans for this sort of thing.

>>221911087
> Furthermore, how would you get shotgun banned because one person is trying to lewd a minor?

You know we're on a fucking list, each of us who goes to these meetings, who are on eachother's friends lists.
You think you can argue your own innocence when you didn't try to stop it from happening? It makes you an accessory.

>>221911105
You mean according to you. Still have yet to see any proof of her saying that.
>>221911175
Has literally only ever happened once in /vrg/'s history with fanisk and kite.

>>221910947
I dropped two of a dozen portals yesterday, and yet this is being laid exclusively at my feet.

>>221911146
>>221910947
I'm not even being neutral, I'm for an 18+ rule. I'm on your side.
I'm willing to help and planning to help. I'm being bitched at because I refuse to just start kicking people and telling them to fuck off with no explanation.

>>221909218
>>221909643
Thank you. Blocking them both next time I see them.

>>221911062
False flagging motherfucker.
You think you're convincing anyone with that kind of shiposting?

>>221910832
Global rule #2. We’re an 18+ community. So if you want children, you’ll have to go elsewhere.

>>221910664
wait haven't they done shotgun bans in the past? you're right, no more meetups for me

>>221911292
Kill yourself dal

>>221911087
That's why we're arguing it with you chucklefucks instead of the children

>>221910996
Let me blow your mind.
Did you know that you can talk to children and NOT be a pedophile?
I know, it's unheard of before.

>>221911315
Yeah we could all get shotgun banned at any minute apparently. All it takes is one person to whip out a futa dick and next thing you know it, FOUR YEARS for all of us. Friends+ instances are public according to Tupper. So why isn't anyone crusading for the other things that can get us supposedly shotgun banned?

>>221911315
They have. They have a serious obligation to keep VRChat in good light. One story of child grooming hits a news site and you don't think HTC and Valve would pull funding?

>>221911454
That isn't the case when people are trying to do obscene things with the child in question, though.

>>221911248
She said it at one of the meetups. There are multiple people who witnessed it.

>>221911454
Let me blow yours;

If you're at a party and you know there are children there, and you see a dude walk up and start groping a kid, doing nothing makes you accountable.
And you're doing WORSE than "nothing", you're saying it's fine. You're defending it.

>>221911186
That is what she is making it sound like. More the reason to kick her from the meetups
>>221911248
>You mean according to you.
I never said that. She did though.

>>221911454
It's not even about lewding the children honestly it's about the lewd that happens at the meetups that they could happen to see. People whip out their e-dicks all the time and do different things.

Sure you can talk to someone and not lewd them, but that's not the big problem. The bigger problem is when someone isn't fully clothed or something silly that comes with the /vrg/ crowd.

>>221911454
That's been the case for u-511, but you can't seriously believe these neckbeards will be able to contain themselves around 15 year old "age is just a number" hibecca?

>>221907367
Do you have the mod so we can test if it works?

>>221911514
>One story of child grooming hits a news site and you don't think HTC and Valve would pull funding?
What fucking world are you people living in that you actually think this would happen? Who is grooming children?

>>221911259
It doesn’t matter. Simply don’t drop any portals at all if you don’t want anything to do with it.

>>221911676
you must be underage b& to not know the lengths media goes to frame anyone who touches video games or new technology
does anyone else remember AOL chat rooms

>>221911710
Wow you must know so much about psychology.

>>221911676
It's already happened. There was a small group lurking pubs to find youngins and groom them.

>>221911710
>Don't think gays should be rubbing it in your face? You must be gay!
>Don't like spiders? You must want to fuck a spider!
>Don't agree with grooming children? You must want to fuck kids!

You, right now.

>>221911639
People here can be underage and pretending to be 18 and see those things too. Funny how no one seems to address that side of the argument or cares about it at all. For supposedly being worried so much about children you guys seem like the ones who would use the "but she told me she was 18!" defense in court.
>>221911789
Honestly some of you are so braindead retarded it hurts. I bet the same people saying shit like this were the same ones going insane over the Sonia thing saying we're all going to get pink pilled and forcibly become transvestites.

>>221911676
Oh yeah, people would never go on the internet with a VR headset looking for naive kids to give them the old pixel blowjob. Pedophiles don't exisdt and nothing bad EVER happens.

>>221911901
and that is why I never ERP or lewd over the internet because it's so easy to lie about your age

>>221911901
Most of us are already transvestites anon, transexuals are a whole other ball game.

>>221911259
Yuru dont bother with him. If they dont drop portals or start votekicks then they have no right to force you do to anything.

>>221911718
What's wrong with doing things the right way and making sure everyone is on board with the rule and making sure the affected parties are given proper notice?

Why are you guys so dead set on heavy handed moderation and kicking them and anyone who complains?

>>221911824
>>221911620
>>221911561
None of this is proof. An anonymous post on the internet saying "yeah this one thing happened this one time" doesn't mean jack shit. A discord screenshot is proof, this is nothing.

>>221911901
>People here can be underage and pretending to be 18 and see those things too.

There's an agreement at the beginning of 4chan which covers this.
The VRC agreement does not cover this specific situation of what's going on here.

>>221911676
Vote kick all people who even sound like they're underage, including those fucks with voice changers

>>221911901
Sure there is a side to that argument, they were smart and no one knows. When you actively know someone is underage and continue to do things is when you get weird.

>>221912036
maybe if you would attend the meetups once and while you could see for yourself

>>221912008
Well kinda need a resolution now if multiple people have already submitted our names to the dev team. I doubt many of us even want to get on now since they're likely to be swarming the meetups now

>>221911901
There’s a difference when the minors explicitly state that they are in fact minors. If the community is 18+ and that’s enforced, then the assumption is that we are all 18+ unless someone is being untruthful. It’s different when they tell us they’re 15 and that age is just a number and 35 year old lawyers decide to not do anything about it.

>"We're live at the scene to talk to community representative xX*I_fuk_kids_74*Xx about the recent allegations! What do you have to say for yourself?"
>"These allegations are completely false, nobody has ever done anything untoward towards a minor in this community and nobody would ever think of doing so, the very implication is offensive to us all!"
>Camera pans out slowly to reveal a man angrily pounding a crying child in the background

>>221911901
That's understandable and I agree, but it doesn't change the fact that we need to ban people we know are underaged

Be ashamed of yourself vrg

>>221911836
Don't agree with minors in meetups at all but I have to admit that extreme sperging out about it usually means your hiding something

>>221912008
Because they are fucking children, man. Use your head here. I’m not telling you to kick anyone who complains. I’m telling you that if you’re going to drop portals then you need to be prepared to enforce the 18+ rule that our community has. That’s it. If you refuse to do that and you want to remain neutral, then simply stop dropping portals.

>>221912036
Multiple eyewitnesses is definitely admissible. We’re not constantly recording waiting for a 15 year old girl to say dumb shit.

Onward 2/4 playing against 16 bots that scream in russian

host: fridget

>>221912174
I don't believe everything I see in the thread.
Either way, I don't break and rules and I'm not paranoid about shotgun banning.
If you're worried, don't pull your penis out in the meetups. You shouldn't be doing that anyway, really.

I think it's just shitposting trying to force things to a head though.

>>221912461
No one else is enforcing it either. That's because we haven't had a community discussion on it yet and no one has agreed to anything.
That's why I've been saying we need to actually talk about this first.

There were 5 or so worlds last night, and I dropped 2 of them. The other people dropping portals weren't kicking anyone either.
And that's because there's not been any discussion or agreement on the issue so far.

Hibecca and u511 is at the meetup right now

>>221912721
I don't have a lewd avatar and will just take a break i guess until this gets resolved. Got models to work on anyways

>>221912665
Pass is 1337

>>221912665
>16 bots that scream in russian
Too young

>>221912721
Global rule #2. No children. It doesn’t need to be discussed. You’re only deflecting. Anyone who drops a portal needs to be prepared to kick the underaged children and that includes you. Simply don’t drop any portals if you’re unwilling to do so.

>>221910347
REMINDER

>>221913042
I don't understand why people are arguing against this. It's completely reasonable.

>>221911087
let me put it to you this way the mods are like communists when it comes to enforcing rules, they believe one rotten apple will spoil the entire batch and as such throw it out
now let's add some reasons prior to this as why a mod would watch us
dynamic bone mod
ban evasions for a good handful of us
crashers
hate speech according to vrchat ToS
modified clients
the stigma of being a 4chan group
u511 seems like an ok person however all it takes is one person to whip out a dick in friends+ even if they had u511 blocked ron won't bother to look the last thing the vrchat and the vive team wants are articles slamming them for pedophilia

>>221913147
nahhh dude it's cooool man just relax u511 is chill af xD

>>221913101
Does everyone need the mod, or just the hosts?

>>221913293
Everyone.

>>221913147
If you don't think that vrg will be the first ones thrown under the bus in the case of any shitstorm whatsoever you are naive

>>221913101
Someone make this meme into a shader

Don’t tell me I’m the only one that finds it ironic how on 4chan of all places people are too afraid of taking charge and kicking underaged shitheads that contribute nothing to the meetups or vrg? All of y’all fuckers are motherfuxkinf voting yes for an official discord and want there to be admins and mods and shit. Stop being so fucking hypocritical for once

>>221913042
>>221913113
The people arguing that vrchat isn't 4chan make a reasonable argument too.
It's intellectually disingenuous for you to pretend otherwise.

This is a blue board. Doesn't that mean that I should start kicking you when you pull your penises out at the meetups? Global rule #5
Global rule #10, no spamming. Should I boot people for spamming particles?
Global rule #3, no racism. Should I kick you guys for racist shit?

Obviously not.

Like I said - I'm in favor you an 18+ rule, but there MUST be a discussion about it. I don't think that there is universal agreement in the community that Global #2 should apply to the meetup. And if it does, simply because this is a 4chan community, there has been no explanation as to why the other global rules don't apply.

>>221913445
This is true. There’s people here who are overtly defending letting actual children hang around. We kind of deserve it.

who /advanced avatars/ here?

>>221913551
>I don't think that there is universal agreement in the community that Global #2 should apply to the meetup

Then the community is fucked in the head because we all see first-hand what happens at these meetups. Why would that NOT be age restricted? What's the drive behind keeping it age restrictionless?

>>221913551
Vrchat doesn't want minors hanging around dicks though either. There's already a precedent that tupper mentioned of that normie orgy getting busted

>posts barely minutes old getting deleted
is a mod a part of our community?

>>221913551
They are kids. This isn’t something reasonable adults fuck with. I don’t give a fuck about two adults lewding, but when kids are involved you just don’t fuck around. We don’t need a community consensus to be an 18+ community. We ARE an 18+ community. Use your fucking head please because you’re blowing mine.

Dylan:
holyshitttt..
what even is going on in here???? I'm ready to go to bed but this is insane.
>>221905709 (Cross-thread)
this is how you know they're obviously roleplaying and not a member of the real list. Everyone knows that og 4channers and other realllly old school elites that are somewhat connected to each other are the reason vrchat even succeeded outside of japan (and probably there too, if I'm telling you)
Hell, someone who surprisingly isn't named above has been popping in lately who should probably have had his dick sucked by vrc staff a long time ago or at least been given a job.
watching all of you newfags but a couple ignore him when he pops in is funny.
du hade rätt Mitta, det här är guld.

>>221906321 (OP)
Onward PVP
Jazkaz
1812

>>221913551
PLEASE drop the lawyer act, it's so fucking stupid. The answer is obvious to everyone here. Nobody defending having kids around is sincere. NOBODY.

>>221913706
I got it for importing custom models into divinity original sin 2 , however my PC seems to freeze and lose connection whenever booting it up
good thing I got it for free

>>221913871
There seems to be a mod

>>221914009
Fuck off newfag

>>221913147
>>221913551
vrchat does not care about being just or fair they care about their image more so they will...wow they really are sounding like communists

>>221913834
>>221913836
>>221913930
Argue with someone else on that point, I'm in favor of an 18+ rule. I'm just pointing out that it needs to be established properly.

>>221914057
If you want me to start kicking people, I need something to point to as justification when people start bitching at me.

>>221914273
>If you want me to start kicking people, I need something to point to as justification when people start bitching at me.
So you're just going to go in a circle. I'm done.

>p-please lets have a discussion about whether or not we should kick someone on sight for being an underaged attentionwhore
god you’re such spineless fucks especially you Yuru. I’m going to laugh when you spineless fucks create that hugbox Reddit discord server

>>221914273
>If you want me to start kicking people, I need something to point to as justification when people start bitching at me.
"They're minors" You've kicked people from isntances for less

>>221914332
>thinking the status quo will ever change by arguing this in the thread
lol

>>221914273
They are children. Global rule #2. We are an 18+ community. There’s your justification. If it’s not enough for you, simply stop dropping portals. Easy.

>>221914009
wtf???

How is this even a discussion? JUST FUCKING KICK THE BITCH! She doesn’t belong here she’s a fucking attentionwhore trying to find easy cucks to pay for her life

>>221914009
literally who

Hi I'm new here, only just picked up a VR setup.
In my spare time I like to make weird image manipulations and clips like this one from content I gather from threads I use, Is that okay? I often make things over in /ink/ and they seem to enjoy them.

>>221914057
>all those anonymous people that don't share my viewpoint aren't sincere. They're all PEDOPHILES
And this is why people aren't taking you seriously and don't care about this argument. Trying to force this all on Yuru is selfish and makes you look like a pussy who complains about things but takes no action of their own to fix it, they just want someone else to do it and take the blame for anyone that objects to it.

>>221914564
go for it

>>221914564
Go for it, always nice to see some new content that isn't drama orientated

>>221914564
is this lhun?

>>221914564
Since youre from /ink/ i hope you know dot

Why do we allow fags from the anime discord again?

>>221914564
More on topic and virtual reality related than 90% of this thread so far so yeah, go for it.

>>221914273
how about this
it's a overwhelming majority a 4chan group which has a rule of 18+ AND people like to do lewd things and whip out dicks and these people feel very uncomfortable seeing minors look at what is essentially porn that they are creating

You don't want to take the lead on this? Fine.
Make me the leader, I'll handle it. I'll kick them no second thoughts.

>>221914332
internet arguments do tend to be circular, yes
I've outlined a pretty reasonable plan to sort the issue out.
If you want to start dropping portals and kicking people and telling them to fuck off, be my guest. Like I've always done, I'll shill your portals all the same.

>>221914453
and when someone asks why it's only global rule #2 that applies to the meetups and not global rule #5, how should I respond?

I don't know why people act like dropping portals is some glorious privilege that only applies to me. If you want to drop a portal, flag me down and tell me and drop it and I'll help you herd people into it. I only drop portals when we've been sitting on the same map for 3 hours or when people come up to me yelling about lag and want to leave.

>>221914452
This times 1000 all this posturing is just hot air

>>221914720
Why do we pretend vrg isn't dead and taken over by dog teen onions individuals?

>>221914273
I can understand that. How can we make it happen? Should we have another poll in the discord? I'd vote keep them out, I don't care about compat or the anime discord I just want it to be less risky to do lewd stuff in the meetups.

>>221914567
No one is trying to force it on Yuru. Yuru chooses to drop portals and as such puts themselves in a position to have to make a choice. Yuru decides to not kick the children. Yuru can easily opt out by not dropping portals.

>tfw xivg is unironically better than this shithole
sad...

>>221914729
>it's a overwhelming majority
A bunch of anonymous people bitching on the thread doesn't signify any kind of overwhelming majority. Maybe you're right, maybe it is an overwhelming majority, or maybe there's an overwhelming majority that thinks differently. Either way the point is pointing at this thread as proof of any kind of consensus is fucking retarded.
>>221914865
So if you want to see things change, you drop the portals. You are the one going against the status quo, it's up to you to change it. Bitching on the thread will change nothing and the arguments being used here that just accuses everyone of being a pedophile is surely not changing anyone's minds on the matter.

>>221914736
Breaking GR 5 gets us a 3 day ban. Breaking GR 2 and GR 1 gets us vanned. They're different in severity and you should know this.

>>221914736
>If you want to drop a portal, flag me down and tell me

Why do you need to informed? You claim you're just a person who sometimes drops a portal so why do I need to run it past you first?

>>221914736
18+ community. No kids. That’s how you respond. Or just don’t drop portals if kicking underaged children is too much for you.

>>221914865
Lots of people make portals, Yuru's not online all the time, it does seem kind of unfair that she's the only one getting called out. Those two kids have been at the meetups for hours and Yuru's not even in game yet.

>>221914848
Yes, we need to have a conversation in discord. I plan to have something like that once the official one is up and running.
Or if it loses, we'll do it in soccer before it dies.

As long as most of the community is cool with it, I have no problem with it.

>>221914865
I've explained this a dozen times
1) I drop a lot less portals than you think. I dropped two out of the dozen or more worlds we visited last night.
2) I will always shill someone else's portal and have always been very upfront about this. I like when people drop portals because picking interesting worlds is a lot of pressure.
If you want to drop a portal, do it. Please, I'm dying here.

>>221915021
I don't need to be. You can shill it yourself.
A lot of people believe that people will only hop in a portal I drop though, so if you feel like people won't hop in your portal let me know and I will run around screaming about portals as always.

This would be fixed with Group Only rooms

>>221914958
Sure. Just don’t drop portals if you won’t kick literal kids.

>>221915126
But then people will say the group won't be 18+ only

>>221915197
What happens if I continue to drop portals and not kick literal kids though?

>>221914958
only real way is another discord bot or in game discussion then

>>221914889
I’m unironically having more fun playing Tera again than I am in vrchat lol

>>221915126
this, hi tupper

VRchat has the potential to be the ultimate sandbox game, but instead it is used to stand in circles and suck virtual dicks. Bravo humanity.

>>221914731
And then everyone excommunicates you.
GG. No more nuisance because no one wants to play with you.

Pick you battles and fight them well.
You picked the wrong battle and you're not being smart about it.

There's a simple fix that doesn't exclude anyone:

We have blue boards and we have red boards.
So we have blue meetups and we have red meetups.

>>221906321 (OP)
>"Virtual Reality, Real Suffering"
>suffering

but you aren't meguca

>>221915256
It's more complicated of a discussion then yes or no, especially when it's about pushing two people who have already been part of our community out of it. So I don't think a vote would be beneficial, at least certainly not before an actual discussion which would be good to take place in the soccercord or if there's an official discord.

>>221915229
Yuru has anyone even said they're okay with these kids being around outside of the board?

I bet this will never leave the thread and the meetups will continue like normal

>>221915445
How the fuck is hibecca part of our community. Fuck off noe/compat

>>221915409
never has this been more true than today.

>>221908494
>>221908494
I'm not going to play this game. It's not my job to enforce board rules off the board; if someone brings underage to the meetups they are their responsibility.

If the possibility of underage at the meetups scares people, it should. There's already strong possibilities of non /vrg/ and underage of arriving via mutual friends, so maybe we can keep the 12 inch dicks to a minimum outside of private worlds.

I'm not a babysitter and I sure as hell ain't a bouncer and being namedropped isn't going to change that. I say we verify age in the exact same way we do on this board in that we fucking can't and no amount of increased sophistication will improve the success of our witch hunts.

>>221915478
I'm not Yuru, I'm just saying as someone who sometimes drop portals. What are you going to do if I continue to drop portals and not kick the 2 people who are 16?

The answer is that you'll do nothing because there's nothing you can do aside from bitching on the thread about it. So the only way you can be sure these kids aren't in the meetup is if you make the portals and you kick them yourselves, which is something you want other people like Yuru to do yet you're not willing to do it yourself, which means nothing will change.

>>221915445
>So I don't think a vote would be beneficial

"I know better than the masses, who I in no way claim to have any influence over, don't point your fingers at me i'm blameless but no we'll have no democracy here"

>>221915641
I, personally, haven't asked yuru to do it. I've discussed with him in dms after it was said in the thread to dm him.

holy FUCK you stupid niggers just START A GODDAMN VOTEKICK WHENEVER YOU SEE THEM IN THE LOBBY
even if "OH NO IT'S JUST GONNA FAIL" 5 fucking votekicks kicking off rapid fire from 5 different people will get them to FUCK OFF
HOLY SHIT

>>221915478
Some people have sent me messages about it, yeah.
There are a few hat have messaged me that want them out and a few that have said they don't care.
There were also a few people who said that they thought they should be allowed to stay, saying that it wasn't fair to kick them out after being a part of the community for as long as they have. They also all pointed out that pretty much everyone who isn't a boomer browsed the board while they were underage since it's a rule that's really only enforced when one is stupid enough to call attention to the fact that they're breaking it.

I think that if we did things properly and had a community discussion about it, things would lean towards the establishment of an 18+ rule.

>>221915660
You conveniently left out the part right after that.
>So I don't think a vote would be beneficial, at least certainly not before an actual discussion which would be good to take place in the soccercord or if there's an official discord.

Get in Onward fags

>>221915619
I don’t like this Yuru... You’re really aggressive nowadays...

>>221915619
But if we have proof, like this situation, what then? They admit to their age, they've made no attempt to hide it. Do you agree then that we're liable if something happens by allowing it?

>>221915776
some people are drunk as fuck in vrc and can't even. if someone lewds them and they go along with it and are like have no idea they are 16 how the fuck do you blame them?

If you don't want to see under 18s in the meetups then block them. Easy. Carry on with posting content people actually want to see

>>221915798
You are taking a managerial role in all of this and then saying you aren't. It is nonsensical hand-washing of the matter.

>>221914564
Dang cool, I was the one posting that image, that looks sick!

>>221914273
Just don't do anything until these people can come up with a consensus. Otherwise they're just shitposters trying to make you do what they say

>>221915895
tired of the /vrg/ drama i bet

>>221915949
Not that simple when shotgun banning instances are a norm and we have devs constantly monitoring our meetups

>>221915949
holly shit platelet

>>221915619
I say we verify age in the exact same way we do on this board in that we don't expect proof but we do expect people to not actually admit to being underage.

>>221915914
>Do you agree then that we're liable
Not Yuru but no, we're not liable. I am not responsible for the actions of someone else simply because I happen to be on the same map they're on.

>>221915790
What's your discord? I'm not joining the soccer discord to send you a message.

>>221915949

>>221915895
That's not me, that must be someone else that drops portals from time to time. Like I said, I don't even drop 50% of the portals dropped.

I do think it's a reasonable post though, I don't think the room owner is supposed to be a gatekeeper.

>>221916008
I plan to be reasonable.
There is a little bit of a hidden agenda here that I'm aware of as well. I know who some of the people driving the debate are, and they want to spark off a fight with the anime discord and drive the whole bunch out.
That's why this is being presented as if the only solution is heavy handed kicking of anyone who disagrees.

In fact, when the issue first started in game that night, I was told that I needed to kick "all the randoms" as the speaker gestured to the anime discord circle.

>>221916159
I'm hesitant to post my discord in game.
Do you have any mutual friends you can ask for it?

>>221915619
It's not a witch hunt when they literally state their age in discord themselves. That's documented proof, in writing. Either kick children or fuck off and don't try to be queen bee.

>>221915956
I'm not taking any kind of managerial role, do you think I'm Yuru? I'm not. I'm just someone giving my opinion on the matter, which is that we should have an actual discussion first before we decide on doing anything. The thread is a terrible place for discussing important issues. It's also just a terrible place in general but that doesn't really need to be said.

>>221916159
Yuru is in the official vrchat discord, which most other users are in

>>221915949
hold on lemme uhhhh have a bunch of literal kids invite the entire anime discord to every one of our instances

>>221915949

>>221915895
I'm Yuru's raging bile duct. Or another user's total lack of suprise.

>>221915914
We are not liable unless we are liable. If you whip out your internet dick in front of a kid, welcome to liability. When I had users I friended show up at the meetup that I didn't know their age.

First, I confirmed nothing immediately shady was going on.
Second, I engaged them immediately to help manage their interaction with the community.
And Finally, I suggested an immediate change of venue as soon as I felt it would be appropriate, thereby taking my normie friends and leaving.

I took responsibility for the "+" in "Friends+" and it's not hard for you to do so too.

>>221916275
Fuck the discord.

>>221916116
>I shouldn't be responsible
Fixed that one for you. Part of growing up is realizing your world view doesn't line up with reality most of the time. You'll learn, sport.

>>221916272
Nah, definitely don't kick the anime discord out. Personal issues aren't why I'm against underageb& being at meetups.

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>>221916386
So if you're in a club in real life and there are 100 people there and one of the girls in the bathroom happens to be getting molested, am I somehow now responsible for her molestation despite being at the bar drinking while all of that was going on?

Your logic makes no fucking sense. I am not responsible for what other people do. That is on them.

>>221911836
>Don't think gays should be rubbing it in your face? You must be gay!
This one was true though for me at least

Is it hard to record VR content? I already record games regularly but not all VR games mirror their view to the monitor, what do you do in that case?
I'd love to be producing some webms for you all.

>>221916443
I realize that there are people acting in good faith here and I agree and think that establishing an 18+ rule is a good idea.

But I suspect that the people who are screaming that the issue can only be resolved by me personally kicking a ton of people are trying to force a conflict with the anime discord.
This event was sparked by a series of events on evening that led to one of our guys crashing 8 or so anime discord members and getting banned within 10 minutes of doing so. An hour or so after that, posts started appearing in the thread about how I needed to kick those people on sight. It's not hard to connect the dots.

>>221916594
>beside being laughably bad at video games.
This is me. I'll give it a shot anyways

>>221916610
So you're in a club owned by VRPill and Ron. Someone glances at a 15 year old girl and your entire account is deleted. What do you do?

>>221916610
What if you let in an underaged girl, knowing full well that they're 15) into an 18+ bar, and she ends up getting molested?

>>221916610
>So if you're in a club in real life and there are 100 people there and one of the girls in the bathroom happens to be getting molested, am I somehow now responsible for her molestation despite being at the bar drinking while all of that was going on?

No, you aren't.
But if the kid is being molested five feet away from you and you know it is happening and you just go "Eh, not my problem" then guess what fucko, you are.

>>221916272
I don't give a fuck about the anime discord. I do give a fuck about children being around us crazy faggots.

>>221916778
You shouldn't have a problem with establishing the rule in a reasonable manner, then.

>>221915229
I will not enter the portals that you make if I can confirm you aren't kicking them. By letting them in it is the equivalent as saying they aren't /vrg/ meetup worlds by allowing under-18 inside.

>>221916773
This conversation is not at all about stopping people from lewding minors when they see it happening though.

>>221916673
The person who crashed them and got banned is a faggot and I hope his alt gets reported. Ban both of them from the meetup desu

>>221916852
You know it is happening and you're not trying to stop it so.... yes it is?

>>221916731
fire at tomahawk missile at his house for violating the NAP

>>221916610
vrchat does not operate in the same way US law operates, they care more about their image since they are being funded by htc vive

>>221916958
Shut up faggot

>have great fun with cool friend as we hang out
>pp gets hard when he headpats me
Wtf im not gay what is this

>>221916821
I think kicking underaged children from a meetup of an 18+ 4chan community is completely reasonable.

>>221916852
But it's already happened, trophy lewders are aiming for the girl and have been for a few weeks in their discord.

>>221917042
>trophy lewders
>implying this is a real thing in vrg

>>221917013
Me too, we should have a rule like that. Make sure to put your two cents in when I try to get the community to establish such a rule.

>>221916753
The girl is the problem and not the molester?

In our situation, you seem to be defending the molester.
You're not doing the girl a favor by actively shitting on her when the problem is anyone and everyone who's making moves on the girl.
You're thinking everyone is making a move on her when they're not actively shitting on her for existing.
Motherfucker, you're not convincing anyone by behaving like a nigger.

>>221916587
how many players are in?

>>221916948
What? I'm not even sure how to respond because what you're saying makes no sense and has nothing to do with whether or not we should allow 16 year olds into the meetup. It has nothing to do with a minor actually getting molested and whether people should stop it or not if they know the minor is getting molested. That's not what is happening here and it's not what the discussion is about.
>>221917042
Feel free to stop shitposting at any time.

>>221917042
>>221917097
I repeat for the 4th time, people have talked to hibecca about explicit sexual acts while having knowledge of her age.

>>221917097
New? What about Johnny002, lilbch, undeadorb, yuji nagato, bananers, and rak?

>>221917153
8 so far

>>221917142
The problem stems from the person who let the girl into that situation and is continued by the molester. The girl is never at fault

>>221917245
Yet you're blaming the girl and not those people.

>>221913551
Just start a votekick when you see them at meetups and let the group decide, there is no reason to keep going on about this in the thread

>>221917245
within vrg?
>>221917276
they aren't trophy lewders? what does a trophy lewder even mean to you?

>undeadorb
come on, at least put some effort into bait

>>221917245
Then shit on the people who's making moves on her.
Namedrop them.
Why aren't you namedropping them.
This is the solution to the pedo problem.
You shame the motherfuckers and excommunicate them.

Why aren't you? Are you complicit?
Are you buttbuddies with these pedophile you oh so despise?
Snitch, motherfucker, snitch.

>>221917217
new?

>>221917429
No really, how new are you? If you think orb isn't a lewder, You're way too new to have any input here

>>221917429
Yes at the meetup.
>>221917393
I do not blame the girl.
>>221917489
I want to keep vrg from being banned. I want self-moderation.

>>221916958
>Not firing your nuke at him
What are you poor?

>>221917489
Definitely not a cat
Zeldabro
Johnny002

This conversation has been going on for over 300 posts in this thread, right from the very beginning, and god knows how many posts last thread. It's like pissing into the wind at this point, no one is getting their mind changed. Lets get this back on topic.

Respond to this post with a screenshot you took that you meant to post but never did.

>>221917489
yeah yuru is the mastermind behind it all

>>221915229
I won't join?

>>221917694
No that isn't them. Fuck off.

Time to finally stop coming to meetups. Don't really want to eat a shotgun ban.

>>221917489
hib"age is just a number"ecca is also the problem kick the future pedo out as well

>>221917730

>>221917584
If you want self-moderation then start a votekick in the meets or bring it up there or in the discord.

>>221917730

>>221918010
I'm not joining that discord just to appease you, faggot. Fuck your list.

>>221917276
Hello jelly

>>221918010
tough luck dude I just sent them an email that says "HE WHO SMELT IT, DEALT IT"

i'm afraid you got outfoxed this time

>>221918206
based and redpilled

>>221918010
I'm positively terrified of your baseless assertions and virtue signaling.

Ban all underages, but since this is a blue board, ban all lewd shit from the meetups too. Then nobody is at risk of being shotgun banned.

>>221917730

>>221918010

>>221918353
also while we are at it lets ban all the blacks as well

who am I joining on for onward

>>221918462
Racism is against Global #3, so no.

>>221918462
>>221918353
please ban all leafs too since this is an american website
not even being ironic

>>221917730
ayy what a great thread

Why the fuck are you like this, /vrg/? Can't you just bring up an issue and, having said your piece, move on?

>>221917730

>>221918681
>making light of the holocaust
Banned from the meetups

>>221918553
shut up nigger

>>221918010
>landwhale

>>221918681
Disregard historical revisionism.

I wanna motorboat that CL. Tenryu/10

>>221917730

look for host: mafuyu
pass is 1812
you'll need the onward mod for big lobbies

>>221918780
>>221916190
Is there an MMD download for these loli cell models? Literally asking for a friend

>>221917560
there's a difference between someone being a lewder and a trophy lewder

>>221917730

>>221918553
See:>>221916587
Mod probably doesn't work as we can't get 6 players on one team still.

I would like to ban all VR married couples at the meetups so I can flirt openly with anyone without worrying about getting VR beat up by their VR girlfriends (male).

I would also like to ban all kemono friend avatars because they're animals, and I feel animals have no place on VR. It's obvious animals aren't allowed on 4chan, so we should extend that rule to meetups too.

>>221919108
that's right, furries violate global rule #3

>>221919108
Did you get crashed by dot?

>>221918790
remember the 6 gorillion goy

>>221918780

>>221917730

>>221919275
that's 7 septillion to you you nazi fuck

>>221919275
I'll never forget Hulk Hogan

In other news, kimono day is this weekend. Not to be confused with kemono day.

You should get in uniform tonight and wear it throughout the weekend to participate, because timezones.

>>221919209
I feel they should have their own /vrmlp/ containment meetup.

>>221919369
Great stuff anon, I really like those aesthetics.

>>221919209
Unironically true. Global kamino ban when?

>>221919374
oy vey you anti-semite it was 9 centillion

>>221919464
i'm actually going to kick every non-anime avatar tonight for violating global #3 for being off-topic
time to lock and load and get revenge for no-anime day

>>221919369
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuddddddeeeeeeeee

>>221918903
this is it THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!
Instagram highschool girl bullshit that is never ending
I am at my fucking wits end here between all the fucking dog teenagers, nigger lovers, and pedophiles. Is no place safe at these meetups anymore

pls ban all my friends so i can be alone again i'm tired of life

This is the correct version of the mod
>>221910347

>>221919829
you're literally calling for a safe space, kill yourself

Post the onward lobby everyone's using please, just set it up

>>221920012
you first pedo lover

>>221919993
READ THIS AND GET ON HERE, WE'rE PLAYING AN ACTUAL FUCKING VR VIDEOGAME

what a MESS

Some clarifications:
The download link of the mod are always the same. The files are hosted in my server and I replace them with each update.
All mods go in the Managed folder of the game.
For example with Onward:
D:\Steam\SteamApps\common\Onward\Onward_Data\Managed

>>221917730

>>221920243
I'm scared to join because there might be a young child playing with you and I might get shotgun banned.

>>221918903

So what happens when that vote thing ends? Does the discord get immediately created if the vote is in favor of it or what?

>>221920196
great excuse, its totally the only reason to interact with a underage person. im so sorry that i am a pedophile

>>221920613
apology accepted

>>221920613
it's ok its 2018 after all

>>221920389
Let's just hope that whoever is in charge of the new Discord isn't afraid to kick 14-15 year old girls who tell people that "age is just a number".

>>221920302
How do I join the actual game going on right now though

>>221920302
I joined the full 10/10 lobby and was greeted by a blank server screen with the mod installed

remember?

>>221920732
2nd lobby will be up shortly

>>221920351

>>221920732
enter again. the lobby was disolved

>>221920196
>uses buzzwords to try to negate criticism
there was this left wing nutcase group I just can't remember the name of It's on the tip of my tongue too

ONWARD LOBBIES UPDATE

We are now live with TWO LOBBIES

Host: UndeadOrb
Password: 1812

Host: ottoman714
Password: 1812

Let's keep on operating boys

How do I make a root bone if CATS wont recognize a bone chain?

>>221920302
Mod does not work. When both teams are full there are no helmets for me to grab.

>>221921242
I had this problem with solo play too but I don't know how to fix it. I joined the game successfully but it says to grab a helmet and there aren't any on the table in front of me. What am I supposed to do, or do I just wait?

>>221920796

>>221921485
I'm working on the helmet issue. Will test it rn and post results.

Onward is a really accurate simulation of real life.
I'm all alone in a room where I can hear all my 'friends' having fun without me as though I don't even exist.

>>221922174
Hello I am trying to play but I can't even get it to launch. If I could I would play with you.
You don't know me because this is my first hour here but whatever, I want to join in.

>>221919829
actually I took the picture (which is not of myself by the way) because the person's shapekeys were fucked up and making funny faces by accident.

>>221917730

>>221917730

>>221922408
Honestly, if there's one thing /vrg/ is teaching me, it's not to make new friends. I should just count myself lucky to have one good one and give up on everyone else

>>221923115
I think you're just retarded

>>221922408
What seems to be the issue with launching it? What platform(rift, vive) are you on?

>>221917730
bout to drop the most fire album of 2018

>>221923876
I'll buy it if it has ships firing in the background

>>221923876
>fire

is it 2017 again

any non ultra fags wanna get drunk smashed on vrchat

Inateck guy from yesterday here
I tried remounting the card but everything's still the same, it won't power the USB devices connected despite the card being detected by windows
Help would be greatly appreciated

>>221924257
Only if you show me how much of a supreme champion you are

>>221924369
my milk is delicious

>>221924391
everyone needs to update.

>>221923876
KFC and Watermelon remix scuffed edition

How do you approach people in vrchat? I feel so socially retarded getting into a group but not saying anything

>>221923303
Hello I am on the Oculus Rift and having problems with SteamVR being a big bully I think.
Steam VR messes up my sound settings, Onward makes a little squeak and then it just goes away like I never tried launching it.

>>221924391
new mod breaks things

>>221924780
Right click and launch in oculus vr mode, not only should it work, it'll also not launch steam vr at all so it takes up less resources.

>>221924391
don't update yet, it's broken.

trial and error

>>221917730

>>221925082
Don't get discouraged.

>>221924749
Walk up and say hi, hang around to get a feel for the conversation, and contribute when it's appropriate. If someone is talking about something you have an interest in, amplify and extend what they're saying and add your own take on it. Ask questions about people if you think of them; generally, everyone loves to talk about themselves. Also headpatting people and calling them cute helps as well.

>>221925082
Hang in there, friend.

>>221924321
Please help me
I just wanna play my VR

pavlov > onward

>>221920718
>2 of the underage are already in the soccer discord and were able to vote
yeah, I'm sure that'll happen

>>221917730

Man, I dunno if it's my wifi or onward servers being shite, but I'm disconnecting non-stop.

>>221924321
can i get a bit more info like mobo and which model of card you got?

>>221925342
Two simple things to make sure of:
Did you install the drivers for it?
Is the card itself plugged into the power supply as well?

The 2nd one being a bitch since the instructions for installing it don't mention about that at all.

>>221925182
thats sound advice I guess, thanks my dude

>>221924321
does it have a place to plug in external power? mine had a sata power port.

>>221917730
here

>>221925576
>mobo
Gigabyte H81M-HD3
>card
Inateck PCI-E to USB 3.0 (5 Ports)
>>221925624
>>221925824
The card is connected to the power supply and it used to work a few months ago

>>221924247
yeah lmao my dude it's like you're not up to date on the hottest new nigger memes

>>221925695
Np m8, we've all had to integrate into an unfamiliar social circle here and it helps to have a checklist.

>>221925353
Having now played both, I think that Onward has better maps/game modes, but I like pavlov's guns and general presence more

>>221925395
what's the discord username of the age is just a number person?

>>221926009
>t used to work a few months ago
It's probably just burned out. These things are china specials.

>>221926010
Not that anon but I don't understand nigger slang

Guys I'm totally not gonna headpat for hours ignoring everyone in the middle of the room before going to fuck so feel free to try to talk to me!

>>221926350
u jealous? gay baby bitch

>>221925353
lol

>>221926238
I know I might sound stupid, but if it is burned out then why does Device Manager still detect it?

>>221925353
Why'd so many people refund Pavlov anyway? Is it not fun?

>>221926735
it's possible, the controller could be powered on, but nothing else receiving power

>>221926836
bullet sponge screaming child russian simulator

>>221926735
I can't find out what exactly is wrong, some sites say to just install the windows, others say to install the inateck drivers. Just as a quick question, how many devices are running off of this card, all of your sensors or just 1?

>>221926735
do you have a volt meter and a steady hand?

>>221927257
2 sensors and the headset

>>221927475
I'm honestly sitting here trying to figure it out and I'm getting stumped. The most I can say is that one sensor can be on usb 2 and the tracking quality will be just fine, its mainly important for at least the headset to be usb3.

>>221928498
Did you try your headset on the main board instead?

>>221928498
>>221928693
The problem is that if I try connecting everything through my mbo's built in usb ports, there's not a whole lot of bandwidth so my other usb devices like my keyboard and mouse stop working until i restart the computer
The card worked just fine when I first got it

Does the photo camera in VRC save images to my computer? I would very much like to retrieve them if so.

>>221928890
Pictures/VRChat

>>221929017
Oh that's wonderful, thank you!

>>221928858
Then the most I can suggest is just put the head set on the mobo, put the two sensors on the card, then pick a god and pray.

>>221929076
You're very welcome, Anon! Enjoy your screenshots.

>>221929108
Well now oculus detects the headset but still nothing from the sensors
I tried connecting other shit to the card and it seems like it just doesn't give off power at all, so I'm guessing I'm just gonna have to get a whole new card

>>221929438
Have you tried a different PCI-E port for the card?

ONWARD UPDATE

I dunno about the main lobby but lobby 2 has a new host

Host: Konner
Password: 1812

>>221929550
There's no other PCI-E ports

>>221926186
pavlov has gungame now also new guns
and with all of pavlovs custom maps i think pavlov has the better maps now, some of them have ladders, portals, destructables now too

>>221929571
This lobby is over now

Everyone please verify your Onward files so you have a clean build. I've discovered bug that will make some poeople not able to the your lobbies in the game menu.
I am testing a new version coded from scratch that is working but I'm still polishing it.
I'll post more details tomorrow.

also thanks for the effort of installing and testing. It's only through trial and error that this will work.

Do you know what's really sad?
I shelled out all this money for a VR capable computer and an oculus rift just so I could play VRchat with a friend of mine.
I've known him for years and loved him just as long but he doesn't feel the same so I do anything to get closer to him and now he won't even play anything with me anymore, let alone vrchat.
I should probably just jump off the roof or something.

>>221930680
You sound fucking pathetic

>>221930776
Yeah, I think I am.

>>221930680
>>221930864
It's not pathetic to want to play with your best friend.

>>221930680
Anon, maybe you should make more friends. VRChat is good for that. Even if you never develop anything like what you feel for your friend, having a larger social circle can help you keep things in perspective when something adverse happens.

>>221930680
do this >>221931070
That way you'll still have social interactions and feel less lonely.

So who is the onward host, if any? I'm not seeing lobbies hosted by any anons.

>>221929571
Just wanted to say I had a ton of fun playing with you guys, hope you all have a good night!

>>221930646
For what it's worth I had no trouble getting your mod to work. I just downloaded your dll, extracted and copied it, and then to get to the game folder I just right-clicked on the game in steam, went to properties > local files > browse local files... > Onward_Data > Managed and then pasted it there. Worked flawlessly for me, I did have a brand new clean install when doing it though as I literally downloaded the game 20 mins before playing it.

>>221930776
>>221930992
>>221931070
>>221931221
Thanks, I'll try to keep my chin up.

>>221931490
I know it hurts but you'll get over it some day in the future. For now, interact with other people and keep on keeping on.

>>221932398
Imagine being butthurt by 2 fatties

>>221933514
Imagine me fucking you in the ass haha I wonder what your farts smell like

Imagine all the people

>>221933597
hot!
meet me at Nepbar in 15min!

Imagine.

/vrg/?
more like /vr hookups/ lmao

>>221933694
I’m gonna make you bark like a dog for me you little slut

this is fine

>>221933957

>>221932398
tell mate to fuck off to nepbar already and stop groping weasel in the middle of the meetup

>>221934158
Tell him yourself pussy

Why aren't you washing dishes /vrg/?

>>221934563
because i have a nice comfy white collar job

>>221934563
Because I get paid to make, cleaning is your job.

>models legs bend backwards when I crouch
Please help

There's something weird about being a tiny critter and just walking around checking everyone else out as they do their thing. It's strange but it also feels kinda good.

>>221934828
move your knees forward in blender.

>>221934895

>>221934396
I would but I'm too busy fucking your vrfu you fucking cunt

>>221935303
Thank

>>221934895
how about a frodo staring at you with dead eyes

Anyone know of a VR Chat room with a good Holo avatar?

>>221934158

>>221937201
Just rip it out of the official Spice and Wolf VR VN in a few months

>>221937509
I will unironically miss the old Konner
/vrg/ will never be the same again

>>221937971

I like look of job simulator (chef), and like the look of Dead Hungry even more.
Any recommendations on good games that fit this fast-paced, 'order up!' genre?
I keep mentioning the cooking thing, but I think the generic genre is 'Timer Management.' I like games where multiple things vie for your attention, and I really like these two games giving you the freedom to meet the demands as you please. (More so Dead Hungry.)

>>221937509
Look at this degenerate, wiping off his saliva drooling from the thought of having not 1(one) but 2(two) weasels

>>221938432
who is the fake one

>>221938056
I can't really approach him anymore since he doesn't shut the fuck up about how unironically hard his pp is now

>>221933851
srs. Need to separate out to /VCG/
Needs a VR Chat general.

>it’s another episode of hibecca the attentionwhore forcing her way into vrg
why? by the way icanfly is one of her whiteknight orbiter beta cucks

>>221938597
Where'd pp is hard meme come from?

>tfw want a good base, nude body to put different outfits on
>tfw cm3d2 samefaces are ugly even the custom ones
>tfw frankensteining a cm3d2 body and some head from nicovideo/bowlroll means the skin won’t match
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>tfw everything is slow because everyone's ingame and you can't join them

>>221938658
No. We just need to get rid of the gay ass erp plaguing the thread and the meetups.

>>221939316
How embarrassing

>>221940008
Did it on purpose, I wanted to try matching outfits with someone.

>>221939470
photoshop until it matches

>>221939879
You want to get rid of konner weasel ashei undeadorb johnny nonnon rakhabit azuth bananers rhyperior nanonano cat catdog youkai and pretty much everyone else because they all do gay erp shit and post about it in discord and thread

>>221939879
you mean you want to get rid of 3/4 of vrg?

>>221938592
The one in the middle.

>>221940339
Some would consider it a small price to pay.

>tfw konner ignores everyone else and only gives a shit about mute fucking weasel
ok i see how it is

>>221940204
one of those doesn't lewd

>>221940339
That's what /vrg/ has become, and it's fucking disgusting

Holy shit I'm a fucking dumbass
I connected the cable on my supply to a random port on the mobo instead of the actual card itself

>>221940561
What’s funny is I think Konner was the last person Weasel hasn’t lewded with. Quest complete. Way to go Weasel, you’re the best /vrg/ lewder.

How is Seeking Dawn VR?

>>221941184
It’s actualoy legitimately genuinely hilarious how many people think that the “pures” don’t lewd. Take coldtofu as an example. They’ve been in vr orgies before

>>221941184
>tfw wanted to vrfu weasel at one point
wew dodged NTR hell with that

>>221941365
>Take coldtofu as an example. They’ve been in vr orgies before
Stop slandering people with lies.

>>221941445
Unfortunately Hiina didn’t dodge it. He’s a good person too.

>>221941565
>he unironically doesn’t know
Ask yuki next time you meet about tofus lewd adventures

>>221941184
>the last person
Wrong

Just pay attention to the anons that literally come and go every few minutes in the meetups
They basically join each other for quick orgy sessions literally every fucking night

>>221930646
Does the mod work for Operations? (PVE)

>>221942104
Pretty much I see it all the time with ryder, aqua and flameg

>>221942270
stop slandering they don't lewd

>>221942402
???

All three of those lewd lmao

>>221942270
Even Ryder wtf lmao what the fuck is wrong with you all
Don't know why the hell I keep hanging out with you degenerates

>>221942434
two don't

>>221942402
Nigga... I literally saw ryder and flameg join a meetup at the exact same time after both had been in a private world for hour and aqua is a degenerate guy

>>221942468
My dude at this point it’s easier to list the anons that haven’t lewded and that’s pretty much yuru and dankmemes

>>221942468
Because you want the snake-eye?

>>221942468
it's not true stop

>headset arrives tomorrow
>GPU arrives Monday
Anything I can do with a GTX760 until my new card arrives?

>>221941591
oof mate

>>221942512
ryder and aqua both had their first times taken by orb

>>221943156
DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

Good night /vrg/. I love you all.

hmm

>>221943336
good night anon

The fact is, with the exception of yuru and the anons who have been to the meetups for less than two months, everyone with an anime girl avatar has fallen to the gay at this point. For the new anons it's only a matter of time. There are no exceptions.

>being in a private world automatically makes you a lewder
Maybe I don't want to hang around you annoying fucks 24/7

>>221943880
orb stole my avatar
again

>>221944056
It genuinely does make you a lewder

>>221944048
>two months
Try two days. Every newfag lewds as well

>>221944048
>tfw been here since february
>always asked if i'm new at meets
>never lewded
a-at least i'm still pure

>>221944048
>>221944135
Imagine being this deluded

>tfw spending more time learning blender/unity to convert avatars than actually playing VRC
at least I'm learning something useful

>>221943731
Good night!!!

>samefagging like a pedophile because nobody cares about you and never will
kek

>>221943156
Not true, my first time was not taken by Orb. It was someone else.
Also I haven't lewded in months.
t. not Ryder

>>221944910
blue board m8

>Can easily beat Mayhem on desktop.
>Barely beat Overkill in VR because of how different movement and mechanics work in said VR.

Payday 2 VR was a mistake.

>>221944204
Namedrop yourself or your story is bullshit.

>>221941365
shut up my vrfu is pure

>>221945217
literally saw nude portrait a few days ago

>>221945427
And get lynched for attention whoring? No way

>>221944204
hi todd

>spending hundreds of dollars to play shitty weeb second life

>>221945715
Sour grapes

>>221940561
>tfw not mute enough to get konner

>>221945715
shits fucking great desu
its fun enough that a game with literally no content of its own is enjoyable to play regularly for months on end
cant wait for actually good games to start popping up

>>221942857
Dunno. Those simple VR games? Not sure which though. VRchat migh work if you limit yourself to low population worlds. SuperHot also might work it's super low graphics.

>>221945657
bro...

>>221945823
>he actually logs in every single day and night and spends his time doing fucking nothing except lewding like some ugly fag and talking like some autistic retard
I’m laughing at you right now

>>221945449
you mean my vrfu

>>221946048
>>221945449
You mean my vrcumdump

>most of /vrg/ are desperate degenerates
>surprised they all are now more open about it on vrc
>tying to "fix" the meet ups
Not surprised in the slightest. Anons complaining about it should start joining reddit meet ups instead.

drop more juicy lewd stories!

>>221945948

I wonder what happened to the fanfic-anon

>>221945169
the ugly french tranny is so pathetic he needs to samefag to feel loved

>>221946181
This but unironically. Every single one of you here is a degenerate furry loli scat lover including our “precious” Yuru. I’m not surprised that all of you became gay 40 year old fat faggots. I’m surprised that you don’t have the decency to keep it to yourselves in private. Do you crave attention that much you fucking old ass grandpas?

>>221946465
>put 4chan users into a social game with cute anime girls and hot avatars
>surprised 30yo boomers are total faggots that start lewding each other and carving for attention
You guys should stop acting like it's something new. Disgusting as it is, it was bound to happen in this thread too since it is so vrchat focused.

>>221946763
I’m used to textfucking ERP in mmos where you don’t know shut about the other person and it’s more like you’re helping a bro get off.

But in vrchat it’s a lot more personal. You have voices and body languages and people are ubironically so gay they want to meet irl with their ugly ass vrfus

>>221944048
False. I'm going into my third month since joining vrg and I've never lewded even though no one names me on any lists of people who haven't, the absolute fuckers

>>221946034
I’m curious how boring and fucked up peoples lives are that they spend the majority of their day in vrchat

>>221946868
>it’s more like you’re helping a bro get off
that's quite gay desu

>>221944910
Go samefag somewhere else. Nobody wants to be your "vr"fu and nobody likes you.

>>221947231
Not as gay as me sticking my futa vrpenis inside your vrhole~

>>221946416
>he doesn't know

help I deleted some vertexes and now when I try to bring the avatar into Unity it turns into an eldritch horror

>>221945169
>>221946448
>>221947404
It's not Arrow samefagging, he's sleeping.

>>221947984
>the poorfag tranny stalker that has no life
>sleeping
he’s awake every fucking minute my dude

>>221945358
I still need to actually play payday2 in vr but i got burned out on it a long time before i got VR

>ctrl+f own name
>0 results
Not a good feel.

>>221949095
Anon!

I missed the party but a few things warrant comments: >>221910384 is a good plan. However, if it happens, the first kick should be delivered by someone other than the doormat maid and delivery must be maintained in the doormat's absence, so the rest of you, get everyone else who makes or wants to make portals together.

>>221912721
>If you're worried, don't pull your penis out in the meetups. You shouldn't be doing that anyway, really.
There's a fundamental problem here. Meetups have had nudity and making out all along, and 4chan is an 18+ porn site, and the community wants to act like they're at a private party for adults, not a public street. But Tupper says friends+ is considered public. The shitty VRChat devs don't provide the necessary tools to manage worlds or groups, but they will ban recklessly. There's no good options and maintaining the status quo will require screening visitors to make sure they won't blow things up. The game really needs better world management options and sooner rather than later, Tupper. The path of least resistance as it is would be splitting and taking meetups private, but good work to those who have miraculously held things together so far by doing your friends' dirty work.

>>221949095
you dont want to be like faith and get shitposted my dude. not getting namedropped is way fucking better

>>221913551
10's definition of spamming is not typical particle spam. The post spamming it refers to is essentially a denial of service attack comparable to spamming so many particles that people crash. I would approve of kicking people who crash the whole room.

For 5, meetups weren't considered blue boards, like how the /trash/ thread was't blue and welcomed porn, and people insisted the devs treated friends+ as semi-private until Tupper said otherwise. Friends+ is used just because private instances lack important features so some people refuse to go private, even though meetups are really meant to be red.

The reason moot maintained NSFW rules was to stop people from reducing discussion with porn dumps like they did on /b/, where the fastest way to shut a thread up was to get them wanking, and porn dumping snowballed until it dominated the board.

3 isn't literal (nigger), and means don't use racebaiting to prevent on topic discussions, like when people were dumping BBC cuck porn in /sp/ during the world cup. The rule comes into play when, like 10, the activity achieves denial of service. The VRChat equivalent is kick the guy who's deliberately trying to get the meetup shotgun banned by recording himself in offensive avatars and telling the devs to blame everyone else for supporting him.

Why did moot keep global rule 2? At one point he considered changing it on the grounds that he himself broke it, but he kept it for two reasons. #1, legally 4chan could get in trouble for failing to tell minors to leave. The law says a host such as a website or club is OK if they remove minors when found and cooperate with the police, but they're responsible if they knowingly keep minors in. #2, rule 2 improves the behavior of minors by forcing them to hide and impersonate adults. They behave how they think adults would instead of shamelessly going full middle school. Those too stupid to do so fail the intelligence test and get a lesson before they cause more trouble.

>>221949201
>mentioning faith but not arrow and jelly

>>221949494
Arrow deserves every bit of shot he gets with how fucked in the head he is. Jelly’s cool but he spergs out way too easily

These people are lewding

>>221949785
I’m disappointed in you kafu

>>221949583
Arrow did nothing wrong, he's just a bit autistic and really depressed.

>>221949889
kafu is legit asleep
he was yawning and saying he was going to sleep around 7 hours ago

>>221949991
He’s done everything wrong and is an aggressive unstable tranny shill with no friends

>>221949785
I was just hanging out with someone at their home world. Why does everyone assume its being lewd?

Official discord votes are in! 60.5% no, 39.5% yes!

>>221950328
Blue is just extra mad lately. He wanted Konner pretty bad.

it begins

oh the discord reeee

>>221949583
>be arrow
>be fucked up in the head
>choose tanya as avatar
proteused withou vr

Namedrop cumdumps I can go to whenever I need to masturbate.

>>221949190
I'm probably not a doormat.

Anyone getting an odd bug where their hands just kind of drop to their sides off and on?

>>221950441
Sad Panda

>>221950441
Manami and Arrow

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>>221950583
What's your FPS when you get this bug? When it happens to me I always have sub-15 FPS because I'm a stubborn bastard. Maybe it has to do with IK sync issues?

>>221950691
wow holy shit you got him good buddy, what a sick burn madlad. you deserve a self pat on the back for that edge.

>>221950691
>sockfags are hypocrites
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>>221950735
I'm getting a rock-solid 90. It happens not just in the Home room, but even during loading screens. It just randomly switches to the gaze cursor every few seconds, making navigating the UI very difficult.

>>221950812
lol, pedo cat the hypocrite

someone make an image of a dumpster bonfire because i forecast a shitstorm

>>221950874
>fuck off to MUH SEKRIT KLUB discords
>bitch and moan when everyone becomes a part of one
what a nigger

can someone link me the vrg subreddit

I am so disappointed in /vrg/ right now.

>>221951256
I'm disappointed you try to lewd minors cat

>>221950839
Sorry bud, I can't help you any further since I only get it during low FPS. I'd ask other obvious shit like "check your controllers" and "try turning it on and off" but you've probably already tried that. Best of luck to you, and sorry I wasn't more help.

>>221951412
Yep. Nothin'. Just got back from a whole system reboot. No fix.

kuiwa

I'm a bit surprised to see that the people who are most vocally anti-discord are those that have been in the offshoot discords for months.

I don't care either way, I didn't even vote. It's just surprising, is all.