/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #419

great movie, would watch again 11/10

Second for kissing cuties in vr!

The most fun I've ever had in a VR game was when I took a sidearm to my head in Pavlov and I killed myself.
Why is suicide so much fun in VR?

why am I up so early anons? I made the second and third NA meets last night and by all manner of reasoning I should be ded and hung over.

>smol cuties.

>>238716164
Too much rimlight. Looks like fucking mario super galaxy

>Missionaries will be sent to VR worlds
I've already seen truly religious people in VRchat complaining about lack of faith and going on about how most us will go to hell. Many churches run their own missionary programs, one of these days some churches and perhaps even people from different faiths like Islam are gonna start joining VRchat and trying to convert people

>>238716107
It makes people laugh if you do it in the right contexts, even though it completely screws your economy for the next round.

>>238716107
Lack of consequences most likely
In other news whats it called when you feel like you drank but didn't actually drink.

>>238716313
there's unironic sunday sermons in Altspace. I cringe every time they tweet about it.

>>238716313
I have seen church attendance being done in AltspaceVR with actual "priests".
If you're a riftlet, you will occasionally see upcoming events, and it seems to be a frequent thing in that game.
Practicing religion in VR is a no brainer.

>>238716313
Remember that guy who kept spamming the thread with his church service earlier in the year?

>>238716449
Yeah, I think he called himself Father Thomas or something. Kind of miss seeing his posts followed by people telling him to fuck off.

>>238716038 (Cross-thread)
The skeleton is in the mesh, I looked at the weight painting it and was sollid red right up to the edge which I read makes the fingers 'fold' rather than 'bend'.

Here are the bones in Blender.
I;m not too bothered by it not, without outlines its hard to see and the avatar in all other respects is perfect (minus some typical skirt clipping).

>>238716906
it's probably because they're not long enough, mainly. Your fingers are getting pulled backwards a bit too much. nbd!

>>238716906
>>238717026
whoops that's the wrong image.

Is there a way I could use the Rift or Vive controllers as a presentation pointer/mouse?
Sometimes I don't want to have the HMD on my head but I prefer the touch controllers as input devices.
I want to use them as a staple x360 controller in games, its usage is really similar to the joycons from the switch and I'd imagine it works well with racing games, specially the Rift controller. (Trigger for acceleration, grip for braking and reverse on the right hand, left hand joystick for turning and auxiliary buttons for handbrake and etc).
Is this even possible?

>>238717090
in this case it's because of the wrist joint, probably.

>>238717108
Your first problem is they only connect to the headset.

>>238717108
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vive/comments/51smcn/vive_controller_as_a_mouse_pointer_device/

>>238717234
I was able to solve that by keeping the headset always on by having something near the proximity sensor, but the rest was unknown to me.

>>238717259
Thank you, and for anyone wanting to do the same for the Rift, I found this:
https://github.com/rajetic/auto_oculus_touch
Happy Hanukkah everyone.

https://www.vrcw.net/
I'm not sure how many of these are not marked public, or if they're just scraping the database now, but at one time there was about a thousand unlisted worlds

>>238717584
heres another.

I know shonzo is a meme but he's showing how to do weight painting on a full scratch model right now.
https://www.twitch.tv/shonzo

Didn't see the new thread. Reposting:

>>238711667 (Cross-thread)
>>238712430 (Cross-thread)
Thinking more about it, if its easy to just harvest people's avis, I'll probably find a generic one from someone else, plus grab one that has the right shape for what I'd like (swapping textures seems like it wouldn't be too hard as far as easy make-your-own work).

>>238712417 (Cross-thread)
>If said Anon wants to stay Anon in-game
No, its not like that.
I was saying that because I've been socializing anonymously for so long, its hard to transition to having an identity.

I mean, it feels different choosing a visual avatar for your body in VR, as opposed to choosing a random image to be your picture on a forum or whatever.

>>238718218
I' was kinda similar, eventually decided to just choose a nice looking rare avatar, purely because it was nice looking and no one else uses it, the more time you spend around people the more you'll open up and wanna be an individual that belongs. First time I met anyone from 4chan and heard their voice, made me feel really fucking weird since everyone was anon before but you get used to it after a while, separating anon posters and the people you physically talk to.

>>238709653 (Cross-thread)
God I wish that wasn't me!

>>238718218
Alternatively have a lot of anime avatars that are generic and switch often, that should help.
Being tiny also helps because VR users rarely notice small models due to their FoV.
(short models barely get noticed and if they're mute it's rare for a group to give you attention and focus solely on you if you're new and you're a small model)

>>238718607
Yeah, that's why I can't just do the easy choice of a cute girl avi.
I would feel almost obligated to be mute.

>>238718738
See, that's something I want to avoid, cuz when I think of "My avatar is a generic anime character", it makes me think of when Chris-chan draws himself.

>>238718738
>>238718885
Addendum: can you float/fly in VRchat?
i.e. can you be small, but still eye-level?

>>238718985
Only with full body tracking or puppet avatars.

>>238719130
>Full body tracking
Would that require extra tracking nodes (beyond the head and hands)? Cuz I might upgrade eventually.
>puppet avatars
Wuzzat?

>>238718885
When I meant to say generic anime avatar, I meant for you to pick something like a boatgirl, mmd tda model or a kemono (if you want to get flamed).
You can also be something someone else is, barely anyone cares unless they're a true avatarfag.

Try to not stand out, that's my point, if you want actual recognition then be sure to put effort into your avatar, however remember that's not required, you could look pristine but if people hate you, your appearance won't save you.

>>238718985
Yes but it would involve you having to make/take a model in Blender and have invisible legs/fuck with the armature to get something like that to work.

You can also fly in-game but it's a bit unstable since it's the result of self collision with a physics object and it's only used to move fast/fly fast without fine control.

>>238718035
Thank you two face

How many games have full body tracking implemented, or do practically all of them do?

>>238719363
You need 2 trackers for the feet and one for the hands, then you can move your playspace and VRC will know where your legs are relative to your body, so you can float.
A puppet avatar has the model attached to your hand, with the rest of your body invisible. Mostly just used for gimmicks because it's tiring to keep your hand up all the time.

>>238719363
>full body
3 extra trackers: hips and each foot.
>puppet
put your whole avatar parented to the hand on another armature and go mad with shapekeys for entire limb movements instead of just hand gestures.

>>238719731
It's the $300 lying down expansion pack for VRChat. A few other literalwho games use it, but no-one cares.

>>238719731
like TWO. Vrchat is the main one.

>>238720161
There's more than two, but it's just VRC as far as anyone is concerned.

IMAGINE spending your christmas watching some retard talk into their computer or some thot whisper into her microphone
JUST IMAGINE being so fucking boring and lonely you spend Christmas on your computer
IMAGINE you spend Dec. 24 grinding stw for a shitty zombie pin

>>238718113
What are all these bones for, anon?
Why would anyone need so many bones in such a fashion when they clearly aren't using them for dynamic bones because they are an experienced and knowledgable Avatar creator, anon?
ANON

>>238720446
>>238719731
Oh, although, I should mention that a vive tracker could be a gun (or whatever) attachment for tracking, or just tracking for a controller with all the same buttons.
The pogo connector on a vive tracker allows you to define all the buttons of a controller into steamvr.
The new steamvr controller library allows you to interchange the tracker as a controller so yeah.

No, this is not a photograph... this is a screenshot from the video game 'VRChat'...

>>238720969
they are using them for dynamic bones because private avatar among private friends
you can also just upload two, one without the script and one without. Plus they're useful later if vrchat implements a less laggy physics system.

>>238721054
Hey I took a nice screenshot of that world too

I would sleep in vr more if I didn't have real life things to get up for. Does anyone actually get a decent sleep in vr and have any secrets to getting it?

>>238721150
That world killed my game like 4-5 times, If you get yourself stuck into a door you are dead, if you step on something with complicated collisions, you're dead.

>>238721054
>>238721150
That world is like russian roulette, you never know when it's going to crash you

>>238720927
Imagine spending Christmas listening to your older family members constantly arguing and your younger ones getting overexcited and causing more problems while you sit by yourself just waiting for it to be over.

>>238720927
As long as your Christmas is comfy you have not failed.

>>238721054
DOOR STUCK

>>238721054
this is a joke right
this looks bad

>>238721148
not really? i usually join for a quick 30 min nap or at most a hour or 2.
Pic related. 10/10 would power nap the pillow again

>>238721148
i normally sleep for about 5-7 hours
I just get wasted and end up sleeping wherever I get too sleepy

>>238721148
It's takes time to get used to it all plus making sure you have the right set up just for how you like it, but you can get some decent sleep even without the lubricant of alcohol to help things out.
I can usually get 4~ish hours of actual sleep before waking up to something or another.

>The absolute state of mutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNLrWS5Eayc

>>238724076
we can't understand the astral war we just witnessed, only mutes could see it

>>238724228
>>238724076
>ooga booga me no speak mute

>>238724953
>sorry guys I have a WMR headset
says the voluntary mute while trying to conceive their identity as a riftlet.

All VR headsets have a mic unless the manufacturer was cheap enough to not include one, even on WMR it's rare to not have one now.
I can't imagine the struggle of a mute when there's an interesting conversation going on that they would like to participate in but cannot because they started playing as a mute and their whole identity depends on them staying as one.
lmao

>>238725314
Ironically I used to write with my marker in conversations, but since I started speaking I find it much more difficult to join in.

>>238725314
I have a WMR without a built-in mic.
I just plug my earbuds in which have a mic on the volume control.

>>238725503
I was a mute as well but I figured if I actually want to be noticed I have to talk.
I did the same before, I would use a snail marker, but it's really hard to get group attention as a mute.
Alternatively you can use TTS.

>>238725713
How do you get TTS to work? Just blast it through your speakers with your mic on, or somehow direct the audio from the TTS site/program as if it is a mic itself?

>>238725713
I used to just go up and start writing things and people would notice and stop to read it. Now I have to overcome the reluctance to speak each time and usually no-one responds, or if they do I can't think of anything to say quickly enough and end up giving non-committal answers until they move on.

>>238725314
Pretty sure the Odyssey and Odyssey+ are the only two WMR headsets that have built-in mics.

>>238726052
>unoptimized mute marker
hope you're good at miming as a robot

>>238726646
I haven't had the marker in ten months.

I can't help but find it cute how you keep up the purefag act dispite everything we've done. Don't worry, I would never unmask you.

Has anyone else tried blade and sorcery yet? It's a pretty good murder simulator, I just hope they add dismemberment and other forms of mutilation at some point

>>238727126
Nice fictional vaguepost.

>>238727126
(you)
move on.

Did anyone try NaLo walk in place locomotion? Milestone?

How much cancer will I be if I use cloth physics?

>>238728249
Depends on the number of vertices

Some of you are optimized. Don't go to the meetup tonight.

>>238728249
I hear it can end up worse than dyna bones but don't know the specifics

>>238727221
>murder simulator
That's making me think, a new game similar to Hitman, but with smaller much more detailed missions ex. a single house, with some realistic character actions and senses(Hearing, smell etc.) and way more graphic violence than B&S all in VR.
Would people be interested in an actual murder game?

>>238728249
Going above 200 vertices on cloth is worse than most dynamic bone setups

>>238728249
It can be more optimized then dynamic but it will look awful. For cloth to look good it needs a lot of verts and a high update rate wich putts it well past D-bones

>>238728740
Add rape and I'm in.

>>238728740
>>238729428
The more dark things a game has the more it will be banned causing less revenue and therefore size of the game, but I definitely see a game like this appearing sometime in the future, if mod support is enabled or they have downloadable patches to add missing content to enable it to pass censorship i't could be quite good quality too.

>>238728164
Didn't know it was released already. It won't work in VRC anyway because it will just activate the walking animation. I think the only way around that would be if it moved the playspace at the correct rate.

>>238732181
VRChat is the one thing I can stand having trackpad locomotion. H3VR, Gorn, not so much

>>238732181
>>238728164
It "works" in VRC, I tried it earlier today. Disables gestures on your left hand, disables turning with the right trackpad, disables openhand gesture with vive wands, and there's no way to separate the walking in place locomotion from the armswing locomotion, so both are in effect at the same time.
It's ass.

Merry Christmas VRG
I love you all!

>>238733524
Merry Christmas senpai

>>238733286
I was about to say that isn't what is meant to happen, then I realized you're a vivelet.

>>238733524
Merry Christmas to you as well, dear anon~ With much health and happiness! <3

>>238717654
https://www.vrcw.net/world/detail/wrld_8367c039-29fa-4482-a56f-d73e5d7221fc
this one looks cosy

Merry Christmas!

>>238736810

>>238734925
>cozy
You have no idea what you're getting into.

cute christmas dogs

>>238737278

>spending christmas in VR instead of with your family/friends
I shiggy diggy

>>238738014
>shitposting with your phone instead of enjoying xmas with your family/friends
Yikes!

>>238738014
>Not dropping in to say Merry Christmas to your VR friends before going off to see your family
baka

>>238736810
are they dead?

>>238738324
based and santapilled

>>238738217
>shitposting with whatever instead of spending time on VRchat
[Zoomer expletive]

>>238738014
Family is half a world away. VR friends are also half a world away, but at least you all have VR so I can get more than an awkward phone call.

>>238738356
The ghosts of Christmas Proteus

>spending Christmas eve creating a custom avatar for VR chat when you are too socially anxious to use it
ah yes

>>238738428
doesnt that mean your family and friends are in the same place?

>Spending Christmas Eve puking and feeling like shit
What do I win?

>>238739092
Liver sclerosis

>>238739090
They're roughly equidistant from me but not in the same place. I'm just really far away from most population centers.

>>238736810
>>238737065
>tfw with family for christmas but would rather be there in those photos

>Thread dead.
>Everyone talking VR in discord

>>238728740
Hitman & Hotline Miami are murder sims. Payday 2 too, I don't recall them getting any serious heat. There are a few burglary sims too, not even like Thief, modern day stuff. I feel like video game controversy was all faked or at least intentionally drummed up before it gets out of control, like Manhunt 2.

After days of research and trial and error I have finally found the perfect solution for avatars with skirts:

Don't make one. Kill me.

>>238740645
I was just thinking since its vr it would actually look like a murder training sim, thats what would cause controversy. If things like covering your tracks and hiding evidence were implemented too that might increase that belief. I actually really want a horribly dark game like this now, I know it's gonna be made eventually but I want a high realism thing and I just dunno if that would ever get the funding.

Bunny pals ft. sunburn lighting.

Anyone know if Unity supports Blender's multiple UV maps? Am wanting to lower my texture atlas size by just using two materials instead. One albedo, and one normal mapped small 64x64 repeating pattern for a repeated cloth material, but the latter would need its own UV.

>>238739960
Me too...

>>238742002
>>238739960
Same. I'm away from my VR set over christmas. Sad times.

>>238741936
No, just use a shader for it

>>238742168
The shader would still need a UV to go by though, otherwise it'll either ignore the current one, or go by the current one where the pattern will be all fucked.

>>238741512
Lol just weight paint it.

>>238743185
After half a dozen tried I gave up, I cannot weight paint for the life of me. Maybe ill commission someone to fix it later in life but for now, i will her to bed and move on to someone without a skirt.

Some screenshots! I hadn't posted any the last few days so this will be screenshots from a couple of nights.

>>238744549
>commission
don't do this.

If VRChat had a rape mechanic, who would you target?

>>238745051
myself

>>238745051
What do you mean 'if'?

Avatar cloning made things get kinda messy.

>>238745268
What is this cum mechanic from? I need it

sphere.jpg

>>238745624
It was attached to a mudkip avatar that seems no longer available.

>>238746117
what is it with avatars with huge tiddies wrapped in a ribbon
i require more

I don't think this tummy has been inspected yet.

>>238746307
you're in luck because ribbon avatars are very popular and lots of people have them.

>>238746674
really tempted to actually start playing vrchat now, especially if i can see tan elf girls with a naughty librarian aesthetic wearing nothing but a ribbon

Important reminder to vote kick out Compatible if you don't want Christmas to be ruined by VRCA.

The best part about Contractors is sliding and dabbing over an enemy's corpse to pick up their intel. Accept no substitute.

Turtle centipede.

>>238746957
t. some irrelevant nigger who no-one likes

>>238747203
Charlesdeep...

Merry Christmas from me and 1000% bird.

>Go to public pug as padoru
>Walk around doing the crying face
>Don't get any headpats because everyone is busy orbiting an e-thot
THEY'RE SAVAGES, SAVAGES
BARELY EVEN HUMAN

Gridman and Gridknight.

>>238748192
Public worlds not even once

These guys were riding around in a car blasting eurobeat.

We also did a test run of Mt. Akina. The chairs work so well now. We need a repeat of the Akina bus episode.

Sitting on santa's lap.

>>238748587
oh, forgot my video
https://streamable.com/s1c18

Trying to wake up Gridknight, who was drunk as shit that night.

I really liked the moral choices in VRChat 1.

>>238741512
Just do like the banana. Weight paint to your legs then it's easy to add dynamic bone parented to each leg and tranfer weight.
Most of the visual quality is in the weight painting and dynamic bone is optional to add extra quality.

>>238717108
The usual gotos for remapping controllers generically are vjy and freepie, but neither seems to have updated recently. freepie claims to support the rift touch controllers, but it's built against oculus api 0.8, so ancient. might be able to build the pr yourself though https://github.com/AndersMalmgren/FreePIE/pull/94

>Windows notification pops up
>VR performance shits itself for the five seconds it's onscreen
Someone please tell me there's a way to disable these while a VR service is active.

>>238750124
That is some really nice skirt physics, the best one I've seems so far actually

We learned all about kwanza.

Reposting for NA hours, but there's been a trackstrap revision, and I've got a new pair. Up for any questions.

>>238721148
I think supporting the headset in a way that keeps the pressure off your face and ears/headphones is key. The best technique i've found so far is to use one of those U-shaped travel pillows, but instead of putting it around your neck, just lay your head sideways on top of it, so that your ear goes in the middle, the headset goes into the "slot" of the U to the side. Side-sleeping keeps the bulk of the weight off your face, while the hole in the pillow also keeps pressure off your ear (for headphones or earbuds).

Physically, it's still not as comfy as without the headset on and I don't think it'll ever be until we get lighter headsets, but with the right environment/people it's still overall nice way to fall asleep and wake up.

>>238750124
>>238750726
>dynamic bones
Would be a shame if I had to block your avatar for poor performance.

>>238750726
>>238750880
It's baked into the animation

>>238750858
It also helps if you flip up the headphone on the side you're laying on, if you're using the DAS.
Or just sleep on your back; the headset stays put well enough that the extra weight isn't quite as noticeable.

>>238750880
That avatar is ranked Good.

>>238751068
this is retarded.

How the fuck does an avatar have so many bones?
Got +20fps just disabling their av

A birthday!

Oh, you horndog! You just couldn't hold back anymore, huh?

He passed his optimization test!

>>238750880
That skirt only has 2 dynamic bones

>>238752446
Two too many.
>>238751068
That's not an animation.

>>238751380
You can tell it's fake cause fbt doesn't have an update rate that fast

>>238751238
>good
You think that's fucking acceptable, kid? This is why we can't have frames.

>>238752597
You can force a faster update rate at the cost of CPU performance.

>>238750124
Dude I literally have been trying to mimic this video for hours. I just can't do it.

I do not possess the skills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u1NBstIcy8

Teach me how to Dougie!

Ribbon kemonos vs bucket head

>>238752504
>That's not an animation.
But it is? VRChat doesn't update positions enough to allow proper-ass dancing outside of slow shit, and there'd be a lot more snapping of the feet tracking if it was actually being done.

Neat. I thought they just straight up banned people for nsfw avatars, not politely ask you not to put them on pedestals in public worlds

Bunny idol!

>>238752876
Where is the transition back to tracking then? It's not the pointing.

>>238752826
I want to drink koolaid with the cultmonos

>>238752913
Are they seriously having mods check this crap by hand instead of just running a service that parses the worlds/models people upload via the SDK to ensure there's no SDK modifications going on?

I see captcha is going into retard mode too.

>>238753030
>ywn teach scoop manners by thrusting your dick on her throat each time she swears
Bros..

>not proteused

>>238752913
I mean since it's not public content yet you haven't actually broken any rules so i would see know reason to ban, kinda like how private worlds nsfw is fine since it's away from the public

>>238753219
This but with randomhero every time he's acting like a stacey.

>>238753082
You don't see the sudden head turn @ :15 as the animation ends (resuming its tracking interpolation), or them pointing into an invisible menu + leg plank into sudden dancing at :18?

I did this meme right, right?

>>238753357
That's him activating the 'point' gesture because he's stuck in desktop mode for johnny. The video with sound shows this.

>>238753301
is private world nsfw fine? The splash screen says they'll ban over it if they see a screenshot or video of it

>>238753187
You can watch it happen live
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vShHzuZzQwULCu7KmWFGMj640oNRYH-M_N1BD30nRF5F9eqGYcLF0E-CTf48RE8qzAzDmv9eqJsdpma/pubhtml?gid=1122762578&single=true

It's kind of fun

banana getting vored
and my last screenshot

>>238753357
They stopped to point because someone couldn't see them. Desktop bug.
https://streamable.com/wg3w9

I've also noticed people's tracking gets chopy when performance drops on their end. That map was small with no one in it.
The big tell is that the name tag is moving with them. Animations stay in place.

>>238715312 (OP)
Merry recapmas, /vrg/.

>/vrg/ #417 recap >>238434283 (Cross-thread)
>>238438563 (Cross-thread) easy list of VR games on steam sale
>>238443446 (Cross-thread) recaps #414-#416
>>238481015 (Cross-thread) >>238481398 (Cross-thread) >>238481620 (Cross-thread) it's a very contractors christmas
>>238486258 (Cross-thread) anon's cute VR game montage
>>238499586 (Cross-thread) >>238500875 (Cross-thread) >>238504313 (Cross-thread) bmo gang doin some hot freestylin
>>238509668 (Cross-thread) tuptup apologizes for dynamic bones
>>238545394 (Cross-thread) >>238545634 (Cross-thread) >>238545790 (Cross-thread) >>238546246 (Cross-thread) anon's VR gamedev starter pack

>/vrg/ #418 recap >>238572157 (Cross-thread)
>>238613458 (Cross-thread) >>238614550 (Cross-thread) >>238632046 (Cross-thread) >>238633025 (Cross-thread) >>238633143 (Cross-thread) >>238633530 (Cross-thread) >>238633645 (Cross-thread) anons discuss the vergence-accomodation conflict
>>238644316 (Cross-thread) >>238649519 (Cross-thread) >>238651498 (Cross-thread) >>238660752 (Cross-thread) murder simulator and sorcery gets more updates, more streamables
>>238647687 (Cross-thread) >>238647821 (Cross-thread) >>238652050 (Cross-thread) >>238652981 (Cross-thread) HASHIRE SORE YO
>>238656236 (Cross-thread) >>238657182 (Cross-thread) and some more random vrc streamables
>>238701814 (Cross-thread) >>238701918 (Cross-thread) >>238702021 (Cross-thread) >>238702164 (Cross-thread) anon gets the new trackstraps, posts pics
>>238706548 (Cross-thread) cawadootytractors

I'll be around less in the next week, so if somebody has the autism to continue these recaps, please feel free. See you soon.

Thanks tupper

>>238754272
>3 hours
>see description

>>238751484
Shit, they show you that stuff now? What else changed this month?

>>238755008
They pushed an update where IK calculations where sent over the network instead of calculating it in your machine which GREATLY increased performance(I'm talking about 90 fps in a 40 people meetup). But it had some issues with people being invisible sometimes and long loading avatar times so they had to revert it

>>238755008
Increased favourite avatar count to 16. Able to 'clone' a public avatar that others are using just by going into their profile, and you can see the author's info of the avatar from there.

>>238754272
The problem with dynamic bones in VRChat is they'll ALWAYS BE ACTIVE since we're never sitting perfectly still to let them hit a rested state.

>>238755103
ah, so thats what this big terrible update I keep hearing about was. Neat, hope they iron it out

>>238755163
They are not always active you dummy. They get disabled if you're farther away than 10m

>>238755163
Shit, 16? Now Im never uploading or stealing an avatar again

>>238755358
When did that get changed? I recall seeing those abusive wobble avatars doing their shit from far away.

>>238755358
it's 20m

>>238755494
It's always been like that

>>238755565
20m may as well be 'always active' for most worlds.

>>238755358
>if you're farther away than 10m
>implying people aren't all glued to the same mirror

>>238755103
The update was rolled back because it was killing the servers

>>238755756
What? Source?

>>238755806
Do you not read the update notes?
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-201844p2

>>238755970
How will Lavender pay for its servers?

>>238756032
You can host your own servers.

>>238756032
Lavender isnt going to be free and the majority of servers will be hosted by users

Is it me or does the dynamic bone script require of end bones with 0 weight to work properly? Also does the root bone move at all? It's a bit confusing

>>238756293
>>238756302
Ah yes, let's trust people who can host their own servers to not do anything malicious that may exploit an amateur scripter's client.

>>238756032
June will have to sell his body

>>238756504
Better yet, let’s trust some random kid with no experience or education who couldn’t get a job with VRChat to bring us to the promise land. So much for that Halloween release.

>>238754272
Isn't the alternative in VRM a lot more performant than dynamic bone? Why aren't we seeing proper alternatives whitelisted, and dynamic bone blacklisted?

>>238757350
What is VRM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3irWcAJhyU

Did you do your Beatsaber endurance run yet?

>>238698880 (Cross-thread)
If you're not on W10 you can't use dash

>>238757350
it is, quite a bit. You can prove it by looking in the profiler in unity, same number of bones as tupper's video is no problem. Their springbone system is really good.

>>238757431
A container format like FBX that's a bit more modern, comes with author/source information, and has most information you would need for to make a VR avatar in one file. The main implementation of it is in Unity. Of course VRChat doesn't support it directly even though the file format was basically made for it.

>>238757650
That makes me annoyed that Dynamic Bone is even whitelisted in the first place then if it can be done way more efficiently.

>>238757350
Because Dynamic Bone's author is an investor in VRChat and likes the money they get from uploaded that aren't pirating it.

>>238757747
>comes with author/source information
How do you do what the dyn script does with this? wtf

>>238757616
Someone really needs to mod in video-playback or Youtube support.

>>238720927
IMAGINE being as cute as you are
ILU anon

>>238757878
Remember how I said it comes with most information you would need to make a VR avatar in one file? That includes a dynamic bone equivalent. See >>238757650

>>238757747
>>238757750
from what I understand from someone in the know, is that VRM is high on the list of things to possibly implement after one of us mentioned it to them or at least I hope
>>238757983
indeed it does. It even has a proxy for the bone naming system, meaning you can reference those instead of whatever your bones are named as, and allow for animations without mechanim, and some default facial shape key proxies (things like smile, wink, smirk, joy - that you can assign to blendshapes).
It also uses GLTF, which is a mesh and texture format that vastly improves on performance across the board from fbx, supports (and is made by the people behind) vulkan, and would open up the game to android and other things more natively since gltf rendering is well accelerated in modern gpus.

>>238757747
to be fair this didn't exist when vrchat was getting created.
VRM format was just adopted by crypton future media though and that's probably the straw that breaks the camel's back. The massive number of things for vr that are prototyped and deployed in record time for it is staggering.

>VRM was meant for Youtubers and frequently references a 3d anime character on its description page
I'll pass on something made by some waifu hobbyist and stick with the tried n' true.

>>238758612
The point I was getting at was that if VRM can have a more performant dynamic bone alternative implemented in Unity, why can't we?

>>238758401
>It also uses GLTF, which is a mesh and texture format that vastly improves on performance across the board from fbx
source on this? I've read that glTF is closer to the native GPU buffer formats so it requires less transformation during load tie, but once it's on the GPU, it's the same internal vertex buffer once it's there, so it's not like the runtime characteristics are any different from vertices loaded from an fbx. It is nice to have an open, documented format (besides collada's xml mess) for 3d models, but it's not a "vastly improves performance" thing.

>>238758904
I once made a Collada importer for something... it was not pretty.

What's vrg's opinion on medium rated avatars?

>>238759141
[x] gas

>>238759141
>not having an excellent & medium version of the same avatar to use where appropriate based on room size

>>238758762
LOL waifu hobbyist? Either you're the creator of dynamicbone trying to D&C or you're a fucktard who should go jump off a bridge because you're a literal 40iq retard and nobody loves you, including your family on christmas eve, clearly.

VRM is Virtual Reality Model format. It was made specifically for things like VRCHAT first by many of the main figureheads of MMD and other things.
oh and dwango. you know dwango, right? oh of course you didn't, because you have no fucking clue.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwango_(company)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadokawa_Dwango
just worth 206 billion yen or so.
oh, they also own this little site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niconico

https://dwango.github.io/vrm/ <- for people who actually can into next gen.

>>238759509
>by many of the main figureheads of MMD
So, waifu hobbyists?

>>238759338
I do this. Also one without bones and one with.

merry christmas you fucks

>>238759509
It's more performant than dynamic bones but does it actually look better than them?

>>238759805
Merry christmas anon

>>238759604
No, literally yamaha, and some of the pioneers of disney's digital animation systems and computer physics from the university of tokyo.
Yu Higuchi, for example
>>238759823
yes, because it was explicitly designed for this purpose, bonus: it has collision volumes that don't eat frames and sip cpu.
https://dwango.github.io/en/vrm/univrm/components/univrm_secondary/

>>238759624
On mine it's just literally dynamic bones and non-dynamic versions. People would whine that 20k poly is too low to do anything nice which was horse-shit, and I'm expecting the same folks to say the same thing about the new 32k limit for excellent.

>>238760178
people only say 20k is too low because mmd models are inefficient messes of combined assets from multiple sources without any concern for polycount, since animations are designed to be post-rendered to video only, for the most part.
Realtime is much harder. Also you only need about 20 bones for a full avatar with a skirt, hair, etc, it's all about how it's weight painted.

>>238760560
And it's fucking dumb. Wish MMD importing wasn't a thing since it lead a lot of the poor performance in VRChat the past year, or people abusing the SDK in general which is Tupper's fault really for not doing server-side checks on uploaded assets.

Unless you're doing AAA cutscene-quality assets on a flat game you're not pushing 50k polygons at all on a single model.

>>238760748
I think its easy to get high poly models down with low quality loss.

People who think otherwise are retards who just collapse decimate everything.

>>238760748
Most custom maids are 40-50 tris.

>>238761387
CM3D2 isn't even remotely near the pinnacle of optimized games from the Japanese world. They abuse the "more polygons = smoother surface!" ideology of bad model design. Hell, it's amazing hardly any JP devs utilize dynamic tessellation instead to get very smooth figures at a fraction of the processing cost.

Sleepy Lain

>>238760748
mmd is the reason vrchat is what it is. An anon we know actually drew the connection early on when vrchat was full of ugly uncanny valley bullshit and started dumping models into the game and showing other people how to. If it wasn't for anime, vrchat wouldn't be what it is today. That broad appeal is the same reason why people pick up visual novels and whatnot.
It's just a shame optimization wasn't as much a concern in 2015

>>238763778
>An anon we know actually drew the connection early on when vrchat was full of ugly uncanny valley bullshit and started dumping models into the game and showing other people how to
Namedrop NOW

can we kill Tupper yet

>>238764615
Dot is planning on that

>>238763778
VRChat was fine as a small audience of VR enthusiasts and modelers before cats plugin allowed easy dumping of MMD avatars with a modified sdk for idiots with no care for optimization.

>>238765336
You can't scale to the level expected by investors on "a small audience of VR enthusiasts and modelers," and a good portion of the anime fans MMD avatars brought in have become VR enthusiasts in the meantime. Furthermore, you could import MMDs easily enough before Cats - it was just somewhat tedious because you might have to rename and delete bones, and manually create visemes.
The lack of optimization in avatars comes from the tools provided by VRChat. The SDK, up until now, gave no hints as to how to optimize, and the only one provided was minimally impactful and easily bypassed.

>>238752876
So what you're saying is every fbt streamable and webm ever posted here was just an animation and the idea of anyone here having fbt was a hoax designed to trick thread only plebs.

>>238763861
>>238765336
>>238765843
yes, that's really all it was. Only a few still remain, some (most) work for vrchat now in various capacities.
It was not cats that allowed easy dumping, but an mmd enthusiast, actually.
Check the old vrchat wiki, you'll see someone you probably know.
he's going to fucking kill me, again.

Merry Christmas, thread! Here's a cool badge you can place on your model.
https://www44.zippyshare.com/v/DnHuSFEl/file.html

>>238766871
>old vrchat wiki
Which one? This http://vrchat-legends.wikia.com/wiki/VRChat_Legends_Wiki ? Where should I search for exactly? This person deserves recognition for making vrchat what it is

>>238760560
>>238760748
>>238761316
20k leaves it looking like trash from a console and extreme decimation is beyond the abilities of almost all users.

>>238761849
You forgot to link a better generator.

>>238767246
no, that's some newfag RP bullshit

>>238756854
What's the starting bid?
>>238756504
The absolute state of PC gaming, I can't believe people actually think centralized game servers are better in any fucking way

>>238766871
TUpper?

>>238767246
vrchat.wikia.com

>>238767612
NO FUCKING WAY IT'S LHUN This guy has done so much for vrchat holy shit. Even today he keeps giving advice in the thread. What a guy. Literally the jesus of VRChat

>>238756921
And you would instead put your faith in a team so incompetent they couldn't even write their own avatar theft prevention system

I'd like to thank Lhun but when I see him in game I feel intimidated by how great he is

>>238767760
social games are driven by it's fans. VRG has done a ton for this game, too. Way more than one person who knew unity and mmd bullshit.
Digitrevx did a lot too, and the people behind cats did far more, but there wouldn't have been any interest if the image the game put forward in videos of people playing it was literally anime/weebshit/memes the game.

Holy fuck once I saw Lhun in the locker room and his dick hung down to his knees
Then he turned and gave me model advice

>>238726031
Use a program, blasting through your speakers generates too much noise.

>>238768061
>tfw no blender catsfu

>>238767462
We don't usually consider him an "anon" anymore, do we? Because if we do then yeah I guess that's who he was thinking of, but I dunno. Tupper is on the wiki.

>>238767981
I don't know. He'll be pissed at me again if he sees this.
he probably won't, since it's xmaseve, thank fuck

>>238766871
I see a lot of Tupper, Haczar, and EvolvedAnt, whoever those last two people are.

Can someone post a picture of their hands in VRchat in the 'default idle' position.

I just wanna see the layout/positioning of the thumb. I think the thumbs on my model are just fucked. In the default it's basically inside the other fingers.

>>238768061
This is why VRChat should ALWAYS remain free.

>>238768285
Did you enforce T-pose in unity?

>>238768245
jetdog has done fucktons too.
Eldorung made tons of early maps.
more importantly anyone who made early videos that went viral, and twitch streamers.
honestly though vrchat made the right move by being first to steam and securing vive's sponsorships.
>>238767981
don't be a fuck.

>>238768293
Imagine if VRChat remained free but charged for the service of reviewing worlds and avatars for public use, since that does incur a marginal cost in employee time.

>>238768086
Made me chuckle/10

>>238768479
I wouldn't like this for obvious reasons. There would be far less maps

>>238768430
Yeah doesn't change anything.
Here are the hands in both Unity and Blender.

This model had a weird armature, the thumb bones were at weird angles, I tried to fix this issue before by 'straightening' the thumb bones but it still persists.

I'd re-rig the hand but I'd need to go read how to do it and for tonight I'm exhausted.

>>238767462
Tupper's tutorials did a shitton for everyone but were pretty long winded and intimidated normies.

>>238768285
If that's a OrientalCrimsonMMD model its hands need some touchups in blender. I use a different 2hu but due to his stuff being kitbashes all of the hand problems are identical. I'm away from my PC for another week so I can't guide you with screenshots, but fiddle with the thumb bone and adjust the weight painting.

Who is Lhun? I've literally only ever seen him mentioned in the thread but never seen him in the game. He's not in the discord either as far as I can tell

>>238769046
I don't know but whoever is constantly riding his dick isn't doing him any favors

>>238768705
>Made me chuckle/10
I know. I like to dig him for lulz here because you all dogpile instantly. I do feel like shit for it sometimes, though, because you STILL think it's him doing it.
MMD would have made it to vrchat without him, but he was autistic enough with mmd to know how the fuck to do it immediately.

>>238769132
I'm not sure if I want to love him or hate him. He's almost never on and maybe that's my fault.

>>238768293
From being in rooms with the devs completely by chance it seems they also don't want to bring in any pay model, but time will tell since at the moment the company is just a money sink.

>>238768780
Try clicking on reset and then enforce t-pose

>>238765843
also hi tupper.

Redpill me on your vrfu/best vrfriend

>>238769962

>>238769480
>tfw mistaken for Tupper-senpai

>>238769962
>>238770139
I want to FUCKlove that cat.

>>238769132
I think someone or (someONES) are pissed he gets along with everyone when they were outcasted for one reason or another.
The bullshit here is probably their attempt to ostracize him.

>>238765843
>The SDK, up until now, gave no hints as to how to optimize
Because SDKs are meant for folks who already know how to design game-ready assets from scratch, not porting poorly optimized assets from some Japanese artist.

How many games do you know of that have full flowing hair and skirt physics in them on multiple characters at once in the same scene?

>>238770842
The witcher 3

>>238767760
>>238767981
>>238768086
It's amazing that you still find the time to bitch about one person here 2 hours to Christmas.
WTF is wrong with this thread.
>>238770842
none, and that's impressive all by itself.
I'm thankful for vrchat as an escape from my stressful life.

>>238767410
>The absolute state of PC gaming
It was always the state of PC gaming. Even games from the past like UT/TF/GMOD were prone to servers exploiting the client to doing remote execution. I trust a hobbyist thing even less with patching exploits.

>>238759604
VRM is the format adopted by pixiv for their vroid anime maker
Basically it's the 2019 replacement for .pmx

>>238771305
this is correct

Incessant repetition of holiday music can have a psychological impact.
At first, holiday music can be uplifting, but after a certain period of time, it can cause boredom — and even distress.
It can remind listeners of the other stressors of the holidays, like finances and family.

>>238771539
Hearing the entire Christmas playlist three times over every day at work used to fucking end me.

>It's a missing shapekey that's always on in unity episode

wtb krampus model

>>238772036
Separate and rejoin meshes with cats

Wait a second. I checked all the resources provided in this thread but it doesn't say where /vrg/ goes in VR chat or where to hang out. Is discord mandatory for this? I just wanted to headpat some anime chicks and watch movies or something. Dont want to learn everyone's hierarchy or names on a discord

>>238772226
Thanks

>>238772330
You have to add someone and join on them. Shammy, Yuru, and Temporal are on almost every day for EU, early NA, and late NA/SEA respectively.

>>238710480 (Cross-thread)
We have multiple examples of vrelationships lasting more than 6months and counting

>>238772636
So i need to go on an anime avatar easter egg hunt around the multiple worlds of VRchat to find approval from random people (or representatives) of this hangout in order to get STARTED? Is there a speedrun or something of this? Cant a different anon just boost me to whatever place does the cute movies and sleepovers?

>it's a bit late, but still.
https://www.deviantart.com/clyriss/art/Christmas-Pack-MMD-Dl-series-19th-century-778023605

Roughly whats the population of /vrg/ when it comes to people who go to meetups/play games, and not necessarily just those on discord?

>>238772330
>>238773171
/vrg/ is itself a circle but we have people who act as your welcoming party. No, you don't have to find them in the world to add them; you can add them from the vrchat website. Log in, search for a user (Yuru, our meido), and add them. They always accept friend invites. Then, join off them, and you can piece together your own circle of friends by joining off them, making new friends, and seeing where the social web takes you.

>>238773171
You are making a lot of assumptions that are completely incorrect

>>238744846
why not?

>>238772330
>>238773171
Just add Yuru to friends. I'm on right now.
Once you're in the meetup, add a few people and you'll pretty much always be able to find everyone.

>>238773171
it's actually fairly easy to stumble onto vrg if you go to populated world around this time. If you find one that's 15+ users you'll see someone you recognize here in screenshots and then you can throw gang signs, do the secret handshake or just mention vrg honestly.
Also we tend to be pretty autistic about our avatars and are all christmas themed at the moment.

>>238773456
for the most part model commissions in vrc are huge scams for the amount of effort they put in compared to the price they charge. Not to mention learning to weight paint is a really nice skill to have. (For example on how scammy the commissions can get i saw someone charge $30 for a texture re-xolour which takes10mins if you're being slow)

>last minute avatar for the wife
pic related, nice touch.
...
>read the thread
what the fuck. merry Christmas.

>>238736810
Meri kurisumasu anon~

Thats goin in the thread brother

merry christmas /vrg/ I hope all is going well

>>238773369
The assumptions area actually quite logical, even if incorrect. Its just a little hard to believe theres not an instant way to join a group thats actively posting on an image board every minute. Although the workaround is a few more clicks adding a user. Its still a little funny
>>238773312
This is useful, didn't know you could search for anyone
>>238773592
Appreciate it
>>238773626
I probably did by accident, but much more interested in the anime avatars and headpats than optimization and personal avatars. Which is unfortunate, every avatar in these avatar worlds are incredibly poor in those terms, and id rather just use them then take time to learn how to design my own. I dont notice a performance issue but I bet it causes a ton for most users that dont have a big budget for computers.

Anyone having issues with the standing/seated option on Oculus VRChat since the last update?

I can't into sound

https://streamable.com/jr0ad
https://streamable.com/f7irc
https://streamable.com/scj8c
https://streamable.com/239jq

>>238771005
Mine was a joke don't add me in there

Is there a way to tie sounds to mouth visemes?
Working on a King of all Cosmos av and want subtle record scratches playing when I speak instead of just tying it to a hand emote

>>238774479
I just hope it doesn't die.

>>238774809
>Working on a King of all Cosmos av
Are you making it from scratch? Absolute madman.

>>238774940
Nothing madman about it. His design is all simple shapes to start with, and I'm grabbing screenshots of various cutscenes and the like of the recent Steam port to produce clean textures from so it looks authentic.

>>238775043
Still more effort than most people do if you're making something from scratch. Guess I should get a katamari avatar done if someone else is now.

>>238775279
Only thing that slightly bothers me about doing the King is he's fucking massive, and it'll ruin it slightly having him be regular sized so he's actually usable in most spaces.

Maybe I can make an emote that temporarily scales him 50x or something.

>>238750798
Oh didnt know these were new. Got the exact same set wheb I ordered. Hopefully we get better tracking points with these tighter ones. It has expandable garters as well

>>238752727
Teach senpai. I want smooth butterry hip moving on heir own!

>>238774854
Sadly it will will. The 20$ will guarantee it will die, as actually disheartening I admit saying that since I want it to explode. It desperately needs lobby creation, private lobbies, and most importantly workshop and less (but still vital) importantly a additional gamemode that's a traditional counter strike gamemode with eco rounds. All this in the next couple months or so, or it will be DOA

>>238776307
>10v10 mayhem
I want to shake in my boots as I watch my comrades die around me

>>238776173
yikes

>>238774809
Yeah, you can use the same ovrlipsync library that vrchat itself uses to do visemes with a prerecorded clip, and you can use the unity animation recorder to bounce out the results into a clip.
https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/audiosdk/latest/concepts/book-audio-ovrlipsync/

>>238774809
>>238774940
>>238775043
>>238775279
>>238775527
I love Katamari and I love you guys.

>>238774809
As far as I know, no way to tie it to a viseme, since it's not an animation but a blendshape that gets activated, but I don't know if what you're implying (having the speech sound effect while you're talking from your mic) is realistic in the first place, because the king doesn't actually voice his lines.

>>238775527
Someone tried changing the size of their avatar on a gesture and what ends up happening is that your model scales up but you don't, so your hands and your view stay in the same place. It looks a bit silly as the model grows but the head and hands stay in the same place.

There's a way to link the bones of a model with another so you can create a sort of puppet, but I don't know how you'd get around the issue of scaling the movements so it translates to a bigger model.

>>238776714
Oh wait, i misread, i thought you wanted to make visemes match up with sound clips. If you want to play subtle record scratches while you speak, it'd be best to do the effect externally in a daw, then pipe the output back into vrchat with sar.audio or virtual audio cable. At least with bitwig, you could turn your mic input into MIDI note ons, and play a soundboard with some record scratches that way. I'm sure there's a way to do it in other daws too, like reaper which is free.

Am I really the only one with this logging in & loading loop problem?
It all started recently and made it take like 20 minutes to go to a world, now I've opened up VRchat for an hour and it still hasn't went to the downloading/go screen

>>238777396
Works on my machine. You should look through the output_log.txt in the vrchat appdata folder and see if there are obvious errors to fix. Or send the log to vrchat support and they might help too

>>238777151
>>238775527
You could have a scaled, puppeted version of the king but the mesh is normally hidden, then turn the mesh on with a gesture while disabling the normal sized king.

>>238774479
that's not a bad number for such a new game on christmas eveu

>>238777183
fuuuuck we better take more pictures. We're not in yet. 11 minutes to actual christmas

>>238777151
Yeah, I'm aware on how the scale-up gesture works, which is fine by me since I don't get any weird shifts in my VR view. Either case, may just resort to using a solo trigger squeeze for the noise at a random pitch for now since it's the simplest solution without audio piping involved.

Also Keita's next game, Wattam, needs to fucking come out already.

>>238777542
Thanks senpai
There is one warning that appears in the log and is followed by this stuff so im guessing it has to do with the server i'm connecting through, is there any way to switch that or am I fucked?

Log - [VRCFlowNetworkManager] Connecting to Photon
Warning - [VRCFlowNetworkManager] Using server url: Release_server_687
Log - [VRCFlowNetworkManager] Sending token from provider vrchat as user anonymous
Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] waiting for photon
Log - [Network Processing] Current Date and Time is: 12/25/2018 4:45:09 AM, sync took 1.2767254s
Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Connection is in an error state: Disconnected
Log - [NetworkManager] OnDisconnectedFromPhoton
Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Resetting game flow - Stopping all coroutines
Log - [VRCFlowManagerVRC] Resetting game flow

>>238778556
Hmm actually, a big puppet relative to your normal model might be able to work. So you'd need to connect every bone, and instead of using the positions, only use the rotations. Theoretically, it should work. I'm not sure in practice what would happen, or if you can do that, as I haven't tried.

I still got the odd 500-1000ms ping spike in VRChat, wish they'd fix this shit or its routing already since the rest of my internet is perfectly functional during it, and only that connected IP is spiking.

>>238779291
Just make sure you add the two most important emotes.
BEEEAAAAAAAARR and COOOOOOOWWWW

I want a prince avatar with a rolling katamari that rolls things up. Maybe with chairs on it. I wonder if there could be a way to force someone into a chair.

>>238780808
But anon I was already doing this if I could find where the prince's model is in the fucking files, all the cousins are there but the prince I can't find.

>>238779079
It eventually got me into the game, I'm never logging out of VRchat again until support replies, I live here now
Please no bullying with crashes

>>238781037
By all means go ahead anon, I didn't even start doing anything, and frankly, I won't have the time, or else I'd be doing a lot more stuff. By the way what program are you using to rip the files though?

>>238756921
>no experience or education
I never reply to negative posts because everyone's always too stuck in their misguided opinion to even consider anything I might say to them, but... god damn. I'm amazed at how little you know about what you're saying.

>>238783523
I personally read all of these as shitposts, and you should too.

>>238773258
Maybe ~100 on a regular basis? Definitely more than that who do show up, but more like once or twice a week.
I remember the old soccer Discord getting beyond 150 people(and still growing at that point) and I recognised just about every damn one of them.

>>238767825
>>238783523
Who would win in a fight?
an entire team lead by some dumbass that runs betas for only 8 hours
or
3 dudes obsessed with plant names

>>238783814
Yeah, that's why I never reply to anything negative. It's either nothing but a shitpost trying to rile someone up or someone who has a really negative opinion that absolutely will not change no matter what.

>>238756504
I mean you asked. You don't have to like it.
June said that it is more inspired by Gmod than anything. You seem to be new to video games though.

Lavender isn't meant to replace VRChat, it is for a different audience and you seem to be the target audience that Ron loves.

>walk into TTT server
>spam toggle the mic
>*CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP*
>"whoever is fucking doing that can you please stop"
>*CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP*
>"dude you bought a fucking oculus just to micspam? are you kidding me?"
>"nah dude i have a vive"
>*CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP CHIRP*

>>238780217
BA
NA
NA
Also fuck the cowbear level so hard.

i havent played vrchat since last year, does anyone have a list of any new cool worlds to show a friend? maybe some spooky puzzle worlds also. i know there is some amazing shit hidden from normies

>>238785808
Vive users have a worse mic quality than Oculus so it should have been obvious to that guy

>>238786273
Most Rifts have decent enough mic's but some of them are so horrendously bad that it honestly makes it near impossible to understand certain people half the time. Vive mic's are more consistently bad, particularly in the way it alters people's voices. Plus the placement of it is unbelievably stupid so breathing will blast the mic with wind way too easily.

>>238786650
Where is it placed on Vive? On Rift it's on the left side of the headset's bottom shell where breathing doesn't hit it at all.

>>238786769
It's right in front of the nose gap and doesn't even have a pop filter. You can tape some sock to it to help with the breathing, but it's still terrible.

Who needs to be in Smash when you can smash these two all night?

Some say that Yawnsu is stuck in the Yuletide Pretzel yoga stance to this day.

>>238787683
>>238787683

>>238788467

When you see it...

Mission accomplished.

>>238782132
Asset Studio, Reroll is literally in the unity engine.

>>238792232
So it's not even a proper port? Lame.

Christmas anime episode marathon!

Beginning 7PM GMT+8 (About 2.6 hours from now)

Starting off with Toradora and Love Hina, we'll see if we get to the others depending on interest.

>>238792409
Join on Temporal or Nattoburger

>>238792409
how and where do I join this?

>>238794002
VRchat
Join on the people mentioned here >>238792504

>>238794002
if you need to join them, login on the vrchat site and search for them from the dashboard, add, and then join on them

Merry Christmas /vrg/
Working on my first beat saber map - about halfway done sketching this one
https://streamable.com/c5yqp

>>238794785
thanks buddy boi

I love /vrg/!

You're Number One!

Throated

>spend two hours on Christmas Day fixing my finger weights
>forget to save the blender file

well shit

is there any point in buying Oculus Go? my computer isn't good enough for real VR

>>238800013

>>238798954
>>238799260
The perils of avatar sharing

Singularity Claus

God I hate Cat

>>238794880
Not bad for your first chart.

>have to be a 160iq game physics programmer and modeler to not get bullied and enjoy VRChat

this is why VR is dying

>>238800259
No one here is going to recommend it

>>238801132
You can just look for a well-optimized public model.
If you want something custom, you either have to invest time to do it yourself or money to have someone else do it, but public pedestal models are okay, too, if you don't want to do that.

>>238799260
I didn't consent

>>238800937
You misspelled 'love', friend.

It was fun to spend Christmas with you guys. If I'm still alive next Christmas let's do it again.

>The words Dynamic Bones are any other colour than green anywhere in the avatar's stats
Blocked.

>>238801064
thank you!

I hate everyone I meet in this game so god damn much. I can't fucking stand most of them. This game is filled with more fucked up people than any MMO I've played before in my entire life. Fucking retards with a god complex over their anime girl avatars or how good they are at pretending to have sex. Most if not all of you make me fucking sick. Only people I've met in this game that are tolerable don't even fucking talk. Fuck all of you.

>>238802307

>>238802307
unironically agree

>>238802307
The reason you like mutes is because you don't want company you want validation, mutes allow you to fill in the blanks with your own fantasies about your ideal anime friendship, you're interacting with real people not one of your anime nakama's just like in your cartoons, when you learn to acknowledge them as as flawed and human as you are you learn to appreciate them

>>238720969
>All those rows of polys for a tapered cylinder
>Tris: 62,107
Here's a textbook example of why you DON'T learn 3D modelling by taking example from MMDs.

>>238801132
>tfw using same visibly scuffed model for half a year and no one cares because you're a literal who

I love everyone I meet in this game so god damn much. I fucking love being with all of them. This game is filled with more wonderful people than any MMO I've played before in my entire life. Fucking cuties with their adorable anime girl avatars and how good they are at lewding. Most if not all of you make me love this fucking game. I've not met anyone in this game that are intolerable. Fuck all of you.

>>238803443

>>238802307
cringe and redpilled
>>238803443
based and bluepilled

Friendly reminder that doing the following things will not only improve your gameplay experience but will eventually lead into VRChat becoming better as a whole:
>Bully, crash and block every desktopper that doesn't have a good/excellent avatar
>Bully, crash, block and report everyone with a poor / very poor avatar (make sure to check what the reason behind their rank is! if they are very poor because of their polys, dynamic bone collision check count or bounds size ignore this advice)
>Crash and block all streamers
>Crash and block all girls

>>238803837
>Excusing polys or dynamic bone collisions
The only excusable very poor rating is bounds size for the purposes of either novelty size large avatars, or trail marker.

>>238803837
Tupper taking optimization to the next level it's a joke

>>238802449
>>238802558
>>238802946
I'm just fucking salty. It's usually Christmas that gets me in such a shit mood. Sorry for lashing out in thread like this. I just need an anonymous place to reee.

FOOLISHNESS DANTE

>>238804406
Christmas is like that for more people than you'd think, any holiday that is about spending time with loved ones

>>238802307
sir, we've been over this before
this is a McDonald's drive-thru

>>238804406
Hope you're well anon, I'll be on all night tonight so come tell me how much you hate me ok?

Namedrop anons you hate.

Is keytar dating anyone?
I'm interested in them.

>>238804750
she's single, had a fling with Chad before they realized they were only attracted to each other's guns

>>238804750
>he doesn't know

>>238718113
why is he a meme? His avatar world is pretty solid.

>>238804715
Buusta because he's too smug

>>238804750
Careful with that tranny. He has killed a lot of a anons already. You’ll get plenty of fake pictures, but at what cost? An i9.

I've read that to improve performance in steam VR, it would help to disable interleaved reprojection, asynchronous reprojection, and reduce the supersampling. However I can't find any of these anywhere in the Steam VR settings window. Have they been removed?

unblock me tiuku

>spats and cat together
cute

I don't care about people and I only come here to get namedropped and screenshotted. Seeing myself mentioned is the only thing that really brings me any good feelings.

>>238805653
delete this

>>238805726
this, but with seeing people I hate mentioned in a negative light

>>238805838
Poor Gilvek. I bet he misses his ex-boyfriend on Christmas.

Digi's mall santa gig and the Singularity Santa were to die for last night.

>>238805653
>arrow getting cucked cat the tranny chaser
Yikes...

spats is not my vrfu anymore shut the fuck up jelly

>>238805653
Indeed

>>238809329
Yikes

>>238786223
A lot of good old worlds got destroyed due to the unity update. Ask again later. A lot of my fave old wolrds are in a non working state

>>238798954
which map is this!?

what's the best way to apply clothes to a naked MMD model?
I tried doing it in blender but I realised I need to resize the clothes and the t-poses on the clothes and character arent the same for some reason, then I tried in PMX editor and it was a bit fiddly but I was making progress until I ragequit when I fucked up the whole hip region trying to fit panties on the model.
yes I've looked at the pastebins, I'm specifically looking for personal preferences on easiest retard proof methods

>>238813576
the brainlet method is to just stick the head to a new body

>>238814043
that actually sounds heaps easier.

So I got a PSVR for X-mas. Are there any essential games for it?

>>238814148
It's is, but it's an inferior quality shortcut that you'll eventually grow out of.

>>238814759
beat saber

>>238815002
Imagine playing Beat Saber with no mods.

>>238814759
Imagine buying PSVR in the Current Year

>>238815552

It's the only affordable one if you don't have a NEET-level PC.

>>238814946
what makes it inferior?
I mean perhaps the body is nicer?

>>238815801
You're limited to the same body type for a start unless you want have massive inconsistency.

>>238815670
I just earned almost 400 dollars for sitting on my ass from 5-11PM last night before going to the meetup. What shitty entry level job do you have that a VR-ready PC is out of reach?

>>238815670
I'd wait for Quest rather than gimp my options for games and modding
A dozen Sony-bought platformers and shitty singleplayer games isn't worth one proper fun MP game with an active modding community, or even a singleplayer one like Beat Saber

>>238816262
>job

>>238816137
I mean if I just use the one costume to start then once I actually manage to get the hang of adjusting clothing I could use that instead

>tfw play blade and soul while listening to DMC OST
https://streamable.com/5ud7l

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aprRTXmU0A

Looks like I'm gonna have to pick up beatsaber

Takes me back to a simpler time back in 2010-2013, watching and playing starcraft 2 all day, best time of my life

>>238818101
Good times. Beatsaber and Blade and Sorcery are on my to buy list

>>238819876
Maybe hold off on B&S until there's more content
Beatsaber is worth it as is but B&S is a lot less finished

>>238805838
Lol

compact elf

>>238822748
XD

Hello /vrg/ I'm looking to get into VR. Which headset should I get between oculus and the vive? I'll be sitting down most of the time and don't have a huge area to work with.

>>238822352
I can’t believe Shammy cucked the coffee machine.

>>238823757
If you have a limited playspace Oculus rift is probably better

>>238824183
Thanks anon.

Tfw at family for Christmas but all I want to do is go home and play in VR

>>238824652
only 18 more hours and I can be back in VR

>>238824652
>Tfw at family for Christmas but all I want to do is go home and play in VR but my headset is broke

>>238825034
>Spend every waking moment counting down the time before I can plug myself back in

>>238822352
cuphead....

>>238825247
RIP

what's a VR chat avatar that's cute but not emasculating and not edgy and not master chief

Tripfagging? Really? It's not even February and I can see that shit will be much worse then last year. Also, how much longer until the thread is moved to soc?

Is there any way to use a snail marker without getting very poor rating because of the bounding box? I can't seem to come up with any way of fooling the system

>>238827256
Have the whole thing toggleable?

>>238827373
That's what I tried but it doesn't seem to trick the checker

>>238827256
Stop caring about the rating

>>238827871
>t. 300 dynamic bone transformations kemino

>>238827193
time to become a shota, friend.

>>238827202
people use trips to impersonate other people from VRChat for trolling reasons

Merry Christmas VRG!!

>>238827256
Mutes on suicide watch

>>238827256
Use a better marker prefab that doesn't purposely make it so people don't cull you. Or just fucking talk

>>238827202
It's pretty obvious that it's fake. If you don't want us sliding further into /soc/ territory, make sure to report and ignore off-topic drama.

>>238828820
>Use a better marker prefab that doesn't purposely make it so people don't cull you
Such as what?

>>238827193
A shota or a tomboy might work.

>>238828924
No clue, I'm not a mute. You can probably dissect snail's and recreate it without the retarded anti-culling feature

>>238827193
A manly male avatar.

>>238829165
>without the retarded anti-culling feature
What is this?

>>238829570
snail's marker expands your bounds so that when you're writing, people who aren't looking at you will still completely render your avatar.

Start culling mutes.

>>238829782
Just expand it up to .01 short of the limit, then. Seems easy enough.

Does anyone have the prefab for the particle snail marker?

>>238828924
Just use a particle system

>>238830218
I'm limited to 300 particles by the fucking rating system

>>238830425
You're limited to zero particles by my config file, mutie.

>>238830568

Redpill me on mutes

>>238830816
Helps them pretend to be girls easier, they’re all pretty shitty people when you get to know them though. Just look at what Weasel does to Hiina for a good example.

>>238830996
Really, literally all of them?

>>238830816
Need to be votekicked on sight. Either talk or fuck off

>>238830816
Yuru wants to ban them from the meet up. I heard it from her own mouth.

>>238828495
>be mute
>no personality
>have to use trail marker to get any sort of attention
>rank system ranks all of your avatars "very poor" because of marker
>people now block your avatars or even your whole account
10/10 mutes definitely on suicide watch

>>238831174
I use monster avatars and play mute just to fuck with people, if they seem nice I'll unmute and talk though.
Most of the time I'm just freaking out Koreans, Japs or Slavs.
I don't think this really applies to me though.

>>238831498
Thanks for posting a selfie. Now I know who to block on sight

the only people pissed about the performance rankings are attention whores, you can't prove me wrong

>>238831573
well you don't seem very nice so I don't think I lost anything of value.

>>238831816
I don't care what you think, attention whore.

>>238831601
To prove you wrong people would have to prove to you that VRChat users aren't attention whores.

>>238831852
what are you even talking about?
I don't look for attention, I just go around as a gigantic albino looking at people and occasionally patting them, also peeking around corners at people.
how is that attention seeking behaviour?
you just seem very hostile for no particular reason.

>>238817301

https://streamable.com/fjqe1

>>238831886
Bingo

>>238832118
You're so desperately trying to look good in a fucking anonymous board outing yourself like "uhhhhhhh look at me I'm a good boi love me plssss". You're already on my shitlist

Muted rise up

Namedrop mutes and semimutes so I can block them

>>238832332
you're reading into my post way too much then, I just wanted to show a fun picture I took with a friend and how being a monster is fun too, so not everyone has to act like a 2ft tall loli character.

I wish you had stayed a mute.. You sound like Morgan Freeman. My image of you as a cute anime girl has been completely shattered beyond repair.

>>238832636
You're so full of shit holy shit. Stop trying to give excuses for everything that you do you fake ass motherfucker

>>238832858
How do you get this wound up over a virtual chatroom?
Chill out dude.

>>238832691
>I wish you had stayed a mute.. You sound like Morgan Freeman.
Sounds like a Good End.

>>238832923
>>238832691
>implying Morgan Freeman voice isn't the best and you don't want literal GOD in your life

>>238832858
>>238832332
>>238831852
t. doll

Punching people in the head in Echo Arena is so satisfying. Any other VR games with that feel?

>>238832691
>someone with Morgan Freeman's voice telling you everything will be fine while patting your head to sleep
Imagine how comfy that would be

>>238833160

DESU Laurence Fishburne's voice sounds better, but MF is still good.

>>238827193
Some kind of space marine.
Maybe female Commander Shep.

>>238833160
That's what I meant.

The mute turning out to have Morgan Freeman's voice is the Good End in the mute's route.

Merry Christmas to all the flat chested cuties out there

Just got Creed on Steam for my Vive. God damn, that shits a better workout than going to the gym

Merry xmas to all the non flat chested animals out there

>>238834952
It's something I'd definitely need more space for. I can just too easily see myself hitting a controller on something hard and just breaking it. I looked up how much a replacement controller is. NOT cheap.

>>238834952
Beat Saber apparently allows for 10+ calories burnt per minute.

where are all the erp models for vr chat

Hey guys, I want to get an Oculus Rift for myself for Christmas, but the problem is my only computer is a shitty Mac from years ago (broke fag). I know there's no way to run it from there.

Is there a way I can get the Rift and run it without having to buy a computer too? I can settle for the Oculus Go but it feels like I'd just be missing out on a bunch of games.

>>238835362
Sorry dude you need more money.

Namedrop anons that should have remained mutes because they are just angry spergs when they speak.

>>238835362
Do not get a Go. You can't do anything without motion controllers. Quest should be released in a few months, which will have controllers, but will be limited to the Oculus store only.

>>238834952
Studies have revealed that pain tolerance is higher in VR. The same could probably be said of fatigue.

>>238835460
90% of vrg

>>238835460
(You)___ and fucking (You)_ are like people who should really shut the fuck up.

>>238835418
Is there anything I can buy that's not as expensive as a full computer that will run it?

>>238835493
You'll be able to stream your PC and Steam VR games to it through a sideloaded app. It will be lower resolution and higher latency than native, but it'll be better than nothing if you want to play some PC stuff. If you just want to play VRChat, it's probably good enough. Maybe even better than WMR.

>>238829182
yuck

>>238835795
Forgot to mention I meant for Quest, when making this post. The Go you won't be able to do as much with. At most you'll have like one hand in VR only responding to rotation. Though, it might indeed still be better than playing on desktop.

Last night's screenshots, Christmas edition.
We started the night in the Christmas version of skyrim, was pretty comfy.

>>238823757
it depends how you mean limited Oculus sensors need LOS so and occluded playspace won't work well.

Helicopter rides!

>>238835795
>>238835493
Do you have any sources I can read for more info about the Quest? I've never heard of it, but that sounds perfect for me.

ask to see his ass

>>238835460
a cute anime boy

>>238836432
lower assets aside that face and hair is hella cute

>>238836275
!! <3

Cute idol!

>>238836347
Just Google around. Road to VR is a good site and source for info. If you mean how it will be able to play stuff on PC, the app people are using on Go is called ALVR, and it'll likely work on Quest too.

>first swing
>103 and 110
>average cut 55

Does anyone know what shader are these people using?

Miti handing out Christmas candy.

>>238823757
WMR headsets are pretty good for small space tracking.

>>238837602
I love the 'resting my controllers on my lap' hands. It's cute.

>>238838136
It looks retarded

>>238837602
reflex

>>238838690
Wow

This was an abstract kind of hell.

>>238838841
行きたい

Group picture #1!

>>238838998
This one was asleep for the photo and got left out, so here we are.

Why do you guys like VRChat so much? I never saw the appeal. Seems like it's just a bunch of losers sitting around holding each others dicks.

Is Pepe the frog avatars still banned on VRCHAT?

>>238839202
I like drinking with people while in my own home.

>>238839202
>answering your own question

I wish we'd have two separate generals, but I fear the regular VR general would die without VRchat bumping it.

We had a little impromptu santa's lap event. It went very well and was entertaining, probably the highlight of the night.

I took a video of it.
https://streamable.com/hg4qg
https://streamable.com/kg6qs

And here's some hilarity that happened after, with the way the seat on his lap worked.
https://streamable.com/roauj

>>238838136
I do it way too often, but I find it too annoying to stand up all the time either. Thankfully I have an ottoman couch so I can still potentially put my arms at my sides while sitting, but resting my hands on my lap is still comfier. The only real way around this issue is FBT to make things actually look correct while lounging, but that's a bit to costly for this leaf rift user to justify.

>>238838998
>Group picture while I'm out with the family
Reeee

>>238839154
>>238839435
Meanwhile, the sleep master reached enlightenment.

Our DJ went down and was taunted by dancing kemonos.

Stupid fucking holidays, I miss being at home and playing VR or working in blender/unity.

>>238839290
Basically the problem.
/g/ threads on VR tend to basically end up being people who don't have VR regurgitating uneducated opinions
/v/ threads on VR tend to be, well, /v/
For better or for worse, VRChat spergs are mostly the only ones who know enough about VR to have worthwhile discussion of it, and most of us who have VR are also VRChat spergs.
It might be better to think of this thread as a VRChat General that also discusses VR at large rather than vice versa.

>>238840130
Makes sense. At least the spergs are keeping the generals active and answering questions for newbies.

I'll get Oculus Quest and become active after that.

>>238833338
Robo recall

No-one remembered the general's 1st anniversary.

Xenoblade hours.

>>238840528
I'm taking a hard wait and see approach to the Quest.
Problem is that it's just standalone and can't be tethered to your PC, so you're stuck hoping that people will develop shit for it or otherwise playing Go-tier content. Not worth being an early adopter of it, I think.
Get a cheap <$200 Mixed Reality headset to hold you over until Gen 2 desktop VR, or until the Quest becomes mature.

>>238841127
Replaced Rex with a more suitable protagonist.

>>238841139
The Zucc has assured us it will be able to play at least most of the existing Rift games, so provided that's true (it may not be) the purchase will make sense for me since I don't have a PC that can run VR (and am a broke fag who can't spend 700 on a new desktop).

Are the mixed reality things any good? I have genuinely heard nothing about them besides that Xbox One was going to get one as a foil to the PSVR.

Back in the town square.

>>238839154
Who has the biggest boobs in vrg Yuru or Yawnsu?

>>238841586
Flame

kino for your soul

Group picture #2

>>238841867
Tupper..

>>238841867
*sniff* ph-ph-photoshop us in D:

>no one recorded the singularity santa or the drunk mall santa

shameful display

>>238828072
>>238828962
>>238829182
>non emasculating

>>238841449
I'm skeptical of Zucc's claims, and what they have shown of Quest games seem heavily stripped down compared to their Desktop equivalents.
Mixed Reality sets are a very decent alternative to Rift and Vive. Samsung's is expensive, but goes toe to toe with the Vive Pro. The others are all much cheaper, and although they're not as nice as the Rift/Vive, they're hardly second rate.
As a bare minimum, you probably want no less than 8gb of RAM, a 1050Ti or equivalent, and an i3 or equivalent. Those will get you to a playable level in VR, though you may need to set supersampling to less than 1.0 or lower other settings to get a smooth experience.

Got a picture with Kotomine Shirou.

half-ass group photo #3 since Akroma missed it.

>>238842071
I recorded all of it, see >>238839435

I just defeated Meatal Gear and the Gronch without using any explosives at all.

Just a LOT of BMG ammo. Tombstone for close range, Anti-material rifle for short.

It was fun. Even if I could only put the Tombstone ammo on one shoulder, and whichever gun I wasn't using on the other- I was forced to hotswap since I couldn't use any other mounts.

>this person claims not to be proteused

I love you all so damn much... you don't even know

>>238842378
>this person claims to not be proteused part 2

>>238842401
I hate you

>>238841449
>The Zucc has assured us it will be able to play at least most of the existing Rift games
I'm pretty sure he hasn't and your confusing a quote. Probably what he said early in the OC5 keynote.

>>238842378
>>238842542
he was a good lewd

name my band

>>238842401
I hope we stay together for a long time. I had doubts during a few rough times, but I think we will make it.

this happened too, how horrifying

>>238842675
The Invalid Dads

>>238715312 (OP)
Why not just name this /vrchatg/ instead? Keep your shitty waifu simulators on their own thread so that people can talk about real VR games. You know, GAMES. Things with win and lose conditions. Not just shiny, shitty chatrooms.

>>238842953
/vrcag/ VRChat Anime (discord) General