/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #505

april fools we're just playing vrchat

>>248878781 (OP)
This thread was full of Index VR HMD posting earlier. I was in it before the VRChat attention whores, I was in here before the threads were numbered. You're taking my home from me and I'm stopping it,

Your picture isn't funny. I was in the thread BEFORE you VRchat nigger tards and I refuse to leave. Find your own island niggers

>>248878894
You can try making a VRChat general, but it didn't go well last time that happened.

>>248878764 (Cross-thread)
it looks good, but we know fuckall about it aside from ships with knuckles and lighthouse 2.0s in june, has integrated headphones, slightly higher gpu reqs than vive, and it looks like it has a leapmotion slot in the front although it could be some other module vive has planned
otherwise it's just big lenses and aesthetic as hell
the purposes of the cameras still are debated over, they could be anything- more room mapping memes, supplemental finger tracking, supplemental hand tracking, ect

>>248878923
Because you vrchat fags areobsessed with the name VRCG and trap us VRVG anons with you by spamming 3d loli erp hentai on our thread

>>248878894
Cute april fools joke, how many times do you think anons can discuss the same shit? The thread discussed(past tense) the new headhset. It went on for a couple of threads. Many times now, the discussion is not displaced, moved, or harmed. Fuck off to /vrggez/ already.

Stop complaining and discuss the fucking headset some more.

>>248878949
>it looks like it has a leapmotion slot in the front although it could be some other module vive has planned
It's probably a modular port like what HTC are planning with Vive Cosmos.

>>248878961
you ok homie

>>248879014
There's still infinitely more to discuss about HMDs than there is about anime girl mirror staring tranny contest number five thousand

>>248879062
Do you think the Index will have a dick-sucking attachment for the expansion slot?

>>248879062
There's room for both. We're a slow general, we won't run out of posts.

Looks like the thread is off to a great start

>>248879062
Then discuss? What is stopping you? I hate niggers like you because you will complain, bitch, and wine, and fail to fix it with any other method then this, anons like you ruin 4chan. Shitposters will be in any thread. Go to actual reddit if you want more tame, controlled discussion of something. You are on 4channel, you can't chemo something made of cancer. You can't expect your shitty taste or opinion to displace the majority of a thread like this either, you have many examples of /vrggez/ failing because you are not "legion" you are just a spiteful poster hating on vrchat, and your numbers are slime as hell.

Actual thread continuing the better organization and more reasonable participation of VRChat users.
>>248879101 (Cross-thread)
>>248879101 (Cross-thread)
>>248879101 (Cross-thread)
Or relocation to work camps if necessary.

Dying light VR. Has anybody heard of or made mods to fix this kind of thing? Their VR is broken as hell.

>>248879262
Same old, same old. Time to go to sleep.

>>248879291
it's because that's not his goal at all people like him are either mentally disabled and can't actually handle two things going on at once or a troll baiting for you's

>>248879465
I didn't even know it had a VR mode. That must be nauseating.

>>248879591
Mixture of the two, "I was merely pretending to be retarded".

>>248879102
I was until people like Yuru decided to announce they're going to post selfies out of spite, thereby derailing and ruining the discussion.
>>248879202
Stay in discord VRChat nigger.

>>248879682
>he says in a complete falseflagging manner
How low do you want to sink every time this shit happens. Talk about fighting cancer you are the cancer.

>>248879682
Yuru has been holding back on vrchat content for your sake. It's not surprising to see him saying he's going to stop when he sees you throwing a fit over a small number of vrchat posts in a very large thread.

>>248879682
No you weren't, discussion pretty much died off around the time Pavlov started.

>>248879835
Everything you don't like like is falseflagging.
See >>248879883
Defend this, discorder

Winning.

>>248879907

>>248879921
>anon claims, harshly once again with zero proof
I am done giving (you)'s, perish

I enjoy VRChat screenahots and VRChat is the best VR game.

Here's your next gen headset.

>>248871761 (Cross-thread)
>>248873828 (Cross-thread)
https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_bb154d97-feb9-40ac-b371-906be963449f&instanceId=9191~hidden(usr_861a4a15-e621-40e8-9049-e675dddc41cf)~nonce(0998b47d-9d3d-49a5-be2d-6a12b269f4fe)

Updated the memorial with anon.
Just in time. Hope you guys enjoy seeing your own memorial.

my masterplan is to bait the vrchat attention whores into screenshot spam then join them secretly when it starts so it becomes so unbearable vrvg can finally be born, my child my creation

>>248880061
Actually, what is the best VR game? I mean by hours most of us probably spend most of our time in VRChat, but as far as actual gameplay and use of VR as a medium, what is the hands-down best thing out there?

>>248880130
>namedrop the post
Kill yourself, Yuki.

pretty
pretty LAGGY

>>248880106
>1960 patent.
Holy moly. VR has been in our mindspace for ages.
Since the very first creation of the 3D cents picture tubes

>>248879921
I think Im going to take my own round of pictures, I think we have a rather special person to have fun with, enjoy whining about the VR pics I will be uploading onto a VR thread

>>248880153
VRChat is amazing I love sucking futanari virtual cock it's great gameplay experience very easy for me to understand I always S rank the missions.

>>248878949
The store page for the Index HMD has pic related, so they're at least used for pass-through at minimum.

Post your last projects anons.

Where are the Tamriel worlds?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>248880229
Well I tried. Enjoy rolling around in shit because you don't like anime, anon.

>>248880227
Easiest mind games ever, I'll continue to pretend to be mad while posting my own screenshots.

>>248880292
Here

>>248880289
Wtf I love _________ now for being an upstanding citizen and posting on topic VR Discuss-
B-blender?
>>>/3/

>>248880227
screenshots aren't worth spamming by the dozens for any game. Even if I was into that degenerate garbage, I would hardly get the gist of what you're doing from a screenshot
>another one where men pretending to be girls are standing, laying around or doing something vaguely sexual
>another one that's not even in game editing an avatar

>>248880292
do you have any idea how much of a massive project that would even be without any buildings/tombs/caves to go through?

>>248880365
Good luck chasing out the waifufags out of /tesg/.

>>248880365
>anon bullies on topic discussion but nitpicks what he wants
Go bully the katawa shouja general or the fate/go generals for their off topic porn posting or something.

>>248880153
I probably had more fun with SUPERHOT than anything else, but it's just way too short. It's nothing you couldn't do outside of VR, but the VR controls and the added immersion make it so much better in VR.

>>248880459
At least thats clearly on topic discussion and not people self promoting.

>>248879465
Have you tried using Vorpx?
https://www.vorpx.com/

maybe it's supported using that product.

>>248880383
don't worry anon I got the plan from Q
we are going to save this thread

since it's going to get disabled any time now

>>248880468
Was that blender picture in VR mode? I apologise profusely.

>>248880480
>It's nothing you couldn't do outside of VR
Well it is a port of a non-VR game.

>>248880495
People on /tesg/ literally tripfag when they post their characters. This general was built on VRC's back. Whine all you want, it'll never go away.

>>248875770 (Cross-thread)
do note that triggers are still broken, if the person who sets the url in a video player leaves the instance, anyone who joins after will not be able to load the video currently playing. Best you get someone who doesn't disconnect often if at all to plug in the url. If you're using my map also make sure they're the one who picks the video player too.

>>248880571
>this general was built on VRC's back
Stop giving yourself all this credit.

>>248880542
It's been a while since I played the original, but the mechanics are a little different, and it's got a completely different set of levels. It's not really just a port.

vrchat reminds me of the turn garry's mod started to take around version 11

>>248880495
You fucking what?
There's plenty of posters who post their characters in multiple outfits and poses.
They post enough to grow a reputation.
It's literally no different from /vrg/.
/tesg/ has been alive for years and has the same whiners like you.
Whatever you're trying to achieve, it won't happen.

>>248880818
ill digress and concede because i dont browse TESG and never did

Is april fools over for good now?
I only made 4 posts.

>>248880818
the difference here is you ARE the waifu and its shitting up an entire platform and not one game

>>248880608
he's not wrong, these only got started because of the momentum from VRChat threads on /v/. there were enough people sitting around in those threads to justify the move to /vg/ (which was a mistake as can be clearly evidenced)

>>248880130
am i retarded or am i not able to find anon

>>248880879
scorelet

>>248880531
Thats it buddy, imma host another forest server

>>248880893
nigga i bought my HMD for vr FPS and was posting in vrg without giving a shit about vrchat in 2017

>>248880935
the number might increase randomly. it's a joke

>>248880962
Oh it's the local nigger posting, don't you have more anons to nigger pill in voice chat and people to scare away?

>>248880929
>>248880130
oh nvm found it it was only in one sequence

>>248880980
You get like 4 points per post and about 10 per like its not 1 score 1 like
but it isnt fucken random

>>248880962

>>248880962

for some reason my mic still won't work in pavlov
everyone just kills me because I can't talk and i'm short.
on the other hand they might be ignoring me.

>>248880973
okay thanks for letting me know
all I'm saying is the first threads were created because of the interest generated by VRChat, they weren't necessarily VRChat exclusive

>>248881013
>>248881069
>>248881103
IMMA JUMP

why is it whenever i shitpost the same 5 attention whores try to bring attention to themselves

>>248881129
You need to make sure it's set as your default communication device in Windows or it won't work.

>>248881241
I don't like you one bit especially for revealing your identity indirectly, try again tomorrow but without drawing attention to yourself. The game should get the attention, not (YOU)

>>248880138
>born
>not reborn
Well at least you admit the last couple were abortions. No need to keep trying if you're not going to do anything differently.

>>248880289

>>248881245
______ is our glorious leader and he's doing what's best for the community
if only you could see that

>>248881301
you aborted it with your shitposting

>>248881250
that's annoying. I make phonecalls with my headset but obviously I have to use the vive microphone for this.

>>248881291
And you keep bringing attention to the identity and not the game.
You played yourself.
Y'all niggas keep playing yourselves.

>>248881339
did you guys know this guy im replying to shitposts himself is a sex offender and doxxes people

>>248881361
how did i know it was you
why did a THE FOREST VR picture need the world to know Dal290 hosted the forest server
you get enough brownie points sitting in the voice chat all day

>>248881383
Namedrop.

>who else plays the forest vr

>>248881472
Its pretty obviously dal posting when he felt the need to announce I HOSTED IT

>>248881423
Where in those posts explicitly indicate it's dal?
You're obsessed.
You're off-topic.
You're not convincing anyone to agree with you.

>>248881561
>imma host another forest server
Okay dal stop shitposting and go host it then

>>248881561
Everyone agrees with me, scorelet

>>248881359
Yeah, it's kinda annoying. Hopefully they'll fix it eventually, but it hasn't been changed in the beta, so I kinda doubt they'll ever get around to it.

>>248881534
just like how "workshop wednesday" changes time based on when it's convenient for him to "host" it, when it should just go on without him
he hasn't finished a guide for koikatsu exporting because that'll mean an end to him getting to play leader

I'm excited for the Knuckles but VRChat is only gonna use the basic gesture system and not Skeleton Input finger tracking. What games could benefit from them?

>>248881690
It's funny how he hosts it in discord and not the more publically accessible steam group.

Found a map that makes sense of all this posting

Is the Rift S going to be competing with the Valve Index or is the Rift S more like the Vive Pro?

>>248881768
if you reveal your identity in the first post of a chain with the same filenaming convention, its basically avatarfagging

>>248881706
You can use leap motion with VRChat, so knuckles will most likely be patched in somehow.

>>248881896
its gonna be for first timers its competing with itself i guess

>>248881706
Most VR games that are still in active development have developers with DV Knuckles. VRC devs are just too lazy to figure out a solution with their current gesture system, so we're getting nothing out of them.

>>248881706
The way it's used in the Boneworks seems pretty cool, but it doesn't seem like it'll make a big difference as far as gameplay goes. I think the increased immersion in any game that supports it will be nice though.

>>248881896
As Oculus's most high-end option, yes, the Rift S will necessarily compete with Index. The Rift S's benefits include no external setup (fewer wires, no external sensors, etc) and has an exclusive library of titles.

>>248877289 (Cross-thread)
is the blue haired cow someone here? got a friend request a few days ago but wasnt sure if it was a random or someone from thread

>>248881913
Conclusions were jumped to, said "host another" check your monocle sherlok

>>248882063
elitist scum

>>248881896
Rift S sounds like it is made for entry level customers like >>248881953
said and Valve Index sounds like it is going to be the long awaited upgrade older gen headset users that want to get better specs (i hope)

>>248882089
>Thats it buddy, imma host another forest server
this implies you hosted the previous one, dal

at least you stopped posting those god damn paragraphs

>>248882046
>only listing the rift's pros

>>248882135
>implying implications

>>248882183
Headsets will be sold on their merits, so the Rift S needs to find its high points to stand against the Vive and Index.

>>248881896
It honestly seems more like they're competing with WMR. If the Index is anywhere close to it in price, the biggest reason to buy a Rift S instead of that would be convenience.

>>248882267
Only reason to buy rift insted of index is if you are an Zucc'er

>>248880289
I really like sharing avatar projects I'm working on but I also really like to surprise people when I show up in something completely new.
So I just share them with my innerdinnercircle on discord.

>>248882183
>Bias and shilling is real
At least we are finally talking about VR gear (mostly), it's actually good that VR is getting more users so it doesn't go the way of betamax
https://youtu.be/_BD140nCDps

How fucked would my tracking be if I used only 2 oculus sensors for fbt?

>the anon complaining at others for being obsessed with identity begins attacking the person he's arguing with solely on identity once he figures out who he's talking to

Wait has there been any mention of valve selling body pucks? Do we still need to go to vive for fbt?

>>248882392
Only a villain does that, and people who lack self awareness on their own faults so they attack it when they see it on others, life is weird like that

Vr is gay and im mad

Should I fight it?

>>248882046
Even the quest has higher end specs than the S.

>>248881674
and now it crashes on startup

>>248882463
Nothing as of yet at least to my knowledge.
Though I don't doubt that Valve will have something in the future, even if it's just being a outlet for Vive pucks.
I do hope some other option comes out and it's cheaper at the very least.

>>248882046
>no external sensors
So the Rift S doesn't need those little camera things on towers like the regular one? Or the lighthouses? Sorry if I'm asking dumb questions. I'm new to this and looking to buy something soon with these new ones coming out.

>>248882485
Don't be mad, be glad lad at long last a medium where you get the feminine look with the personality of men all in one great package, live the dream of dating a anime and a bro at the same time
https://youtu.be/d0mt0N5-LLw

>>248882482
>>248882392
Next time don't fucking indirectly obviousfag

>>248882643
>So the Rift S doesn't need those little camera things on towers like the regular one? Or the lighthouses?
No, it uses 5 cameras to track the surrounings and cameras

>>248882643
No. The Rift S is straight-up incompatible with the old Rift sensors. The headset has 5 cameras on it to handle all the tracking of the controllers.

VR is mad and I'm gay

>>248882372
But Betamax died because VHS brought more users into video casettes.

>>248882792
>we didn't get good enough data from the camera pointing at their body
>lets point it at all their other shit instead

>>248882862
Occulus is VHS, HTC is Betamax
Valve is DvD...

>>248882862
Point was betamax hardware was better but competition knew how to sell their crap so they outsold them to oblivion and now days some don't even know what a betamax is while at least people have heard of vhs
Hopefully VR doesn't become the niche of the past thanks to Gaben blessed be his name saving hardcore users with index and Rift taking the entry level users to VR experience

for vrchat can you not actually make scripts?
it says whitelisted COMPONENTS so does that mean that the worlds are just a scene utilizing limited list?
if so how's it different from just playing gmod in VR (or actually, gmod is more advanced than that.)

>>248883038
Same reason Game Boy beat all the stronger handheld consoles: it had Tetris.

>>248883038
Your point doesn't apply to VR as a whole because it isn't directly competing with any potential replacement and it isn't a brand.

>>248883281
I used the example because it was the first one that came to mind where good hardware goes to waste because of lack of proper marketing

>>248882381
Oculus sensors have no capacity for full body tracking. You need something else like vive sensors for pucks.

>>248883430
Technically you could jury rig an extra touch controller into a hip tracker. However it's no only not a good end result but also a pain in the ass.
It's similar to doing stuff like using Playstation Move controllers as cheapo pucks.

>>248883702
no the hip tracker works fantastic its perfect you can only use 1 extra though

>>248883842
Oh really?
Good to hear it's actually decent tracking. I'd only heard scattered reports here and there of people actually trying it out. I would have figured it would get occluded a lot so the tracking would be jittery at times.

>>248883406
The applicable example for VR is Atari. They crashed the whole industry with bad management, bad marketing, and bad software.

>>248883927
occluded the same way a puck is
try a clear bottle belt trick thing

>>248883702
A lone hip tracker in VRChat won't be enough.

>>248883958
Oh dear lord please no, i was just starting to enjoy VR if they mess it up i wasted my shekels on it, G-gaben will save us and won't let them pull Atari.. right?

>>248883430
Looks HTC is getting my money then, the leg envy is too strong to resist

>>248882063
>blue-haired cow
Before clicking the link I was expecting some fat SJW

There year is 2020. HTC continues to struggle with turning a profit after a streak of quarterly losses and decides to sell off parts of their business.
Epic Games, looking to compete against Facebook, Google, Valve and Microsoft, steps in and buys up Vive for an undisclosed fee.

>>248884264
WHOA What the fuck those abs

>>248884092
VRpill me on the Atari shenanigans of ages past

>>248884092
That's a big reason why he made SteamVR open and easy for competitors to use. Even if he fails, that'll allow the next Nintendo to use the existing infrastructure instead of having to dump game paks in landfills like Atari did.

>>248884329
ue4 sucks

>>248884412
Probably this >>248884447
to be quite honest Atari was before my time, i thought they transitioned to personal computers and macintosh

>>248884507
So does unity. That's beyond the point. Epic is sitting on a mountain of fortnite cash, and they've already expressed interest in becoming one of the main social hubs in the future.

>>248883092
The thing with Game Boy was that Nintendo knew people wanted to play for longer than 1h with single change of batteries and optimized around that. Their main competitors tried to bring backlights, color graphics and higher specs but failed to deliver on being an actual mobile gaming console.

Also helped that Game Boy was like half price to all of its competition and had Tetris.

>>248884640
but we're going to hang all the fortnite players so who will be left to populate it?

>>248884563
>transitioned to personal computers and macintosh
That was way later around 2003 or so, when squinty French publisher Infogrames purchased Hasbro Interactive, which owned the Atari home system IP, and rebranded itself as Atari.
Then it went bankrupt.

>>248884728
>Gameboy next door
https://youtu.be/OpotlOHAaqo

>>248884563
It wasn't necessarily Atari itself that drove the gaming crash, but it was their success that kinda kicked it into high gear.
In a really simple description, lots of companies started making their own consoles and pushing out their own shovelwear game that didn't innovate or try anything new. Like stores had 10 different consoles and each had their own ever-so-slightly different Pac-man on it. Consumers hated it because no console offered anything unique so people stopped buying, which lead to companies attempting to pump out more shovelwear to cover their losses from the few diehards that kept buying them.
All of that leading up to the E.T. fiasco where it was so bad and came out at just the wrong time that it just didn't sell. And thus everything crashed hard.

I'm sure I'm missing some fact or concept since I'm typing this all out from old memories of reading up on it, but I think I have the general gist of it.

>>248883056
using a combination of triggers, script components from unity built ins, ui and standard assets you can get a lot of things done.
Triggers give you access to basic functions such as toggling the state of objects and or components, to more complex functions such as manipulating animator states and values.
There also exists some esoteric methods that let you access a fair bit of the internals of unity components. For example you can use the unity button press to access protected methods of unity objects and call them, pass them values from another object etc.
Despite not having actual scripting, people have made systems that allow you to have things like player tracking, flight vehicles, combat systems and what not.

>>248884858
We said the same about reddit years ago and look where we are now. The next eternal september is just around the corner and it's face is that of the 8 year old fortnite fuckwad.

>>248884915
how do you modify meshes? I wanted to make a naval combat game

>>248881745
>steam group.
Steam is a dead platform for social stuff. For better or for worse discord has better ability to coordinate talks.

>>248885125
>Xbox One Controller
How many VR games even support a regular controller?

>>248882063
yes

>>248885170
the assembly

>>248881896
Unironically Valve Index will take the lion share of those people wanting to buy Rift S. You buy a PC headset since you have a beefy PC rig.
Also PC users are usually higher in intelligence curve than the average and thus are not swayed or discouraged by having to setup sensors around their room.

Quest will survive fine but Rift S will be a very expensive learning lesson for Oculus.

>>248885170
a lot, even vrchat does

>>248885257
>Also PC users are usually higher in intelligence curve than the average and thus are not swayed or discouraged by having to setup sensors around their room.
or perhaps they just realize that they should be pointing cameras at their fucking dick

>>248882552
No. GO 360 and walk away.

>>248884865
Rip Atari, those who do not read history are bound to repeat it
>>248884907
Basically the company alienated themselves from their target audience and tried to cash grab instead of thinking of the future of the industry causing the consumers to flip them off and vote with their dollars in a nutshell at least sounds like that
At least indie games and Valve saved the gaming industry from the same fate of "here's another same title n.X with few new maps and better graphics", sad to see a thing keel over because of lack of innovation by companies that have no business being in developing products to consumers while not understanding the basics of what their target audience is looking for, at least Gaben and Valve still guard over the realms of games...
https://youtu.be/6eB6pLLqmUY

>>248885339
VR tracking cock ring

>>248884412
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_crash_of_1983
>The video game crash of 1983 (known as the Atari shock in Japan) was a large-scale recession in the video game industry that occurred from 1983 to 1985, primarily in North America.
>Revenues peaked at around $3.2 billion in 1983, then fell to around $100 million by 1985 (a drop of almost 97 percent).

>(a drop of almost 97 percent).

The CEO was investigated for possible insider trading charges, was cleared, but had to resign, and
>Atari, Inc. would go on to lose $536 million in 1983, and was sold off by Warner Communications the following year.

From a user perspective: Before home games, there was a huge arcade craze. Arcades became a popular hangout where people got laid, did drugs, and played games in between. Home games were meant to be the TV to the arcade's movie theater, and there were insane expectations of exponential growth. Every living room the first world was supposed to be monetized.

The early Atari consoles were successes, took over 80% of the industry, and got home games to in stores everywhere. Businessmen multiplied their investments, but they invested in shovelware garbage and race to the bottom cashgrabs, most of which were blatant clones of each other. Console updates added fucking nothing and most consumers couldn't tell them apart. Build quality was very poor, controllers broke in droves, and you had to blow in cartridges, sacrifice chickens, and slap the TV to get things running. Atari responded with more of the same and encouraging third party shovelware games with no quality control.

Stores were flooded with redundant shit and a consumer who just bought whatever was on display probably got trash. Sales cut prices down to nothing while they tried to clear out excess stock. Imagine a Steam sale where every game on the platform is $0.99. Customers abandoned ship and investors with losses turned on each other.

>>248885360
>360
sweaty...

>>248885517
fucking jews.

>>248885097
You can't modify meshes but you can do things that come close enough appearance wise. Aside from basic transform manipulation, you could use bones to manipulate parts of a mesh, as well as blend shapes. You could also use shader's to change how a mesh is rendered. Combine this with animators to control the state of objects.
Boat gets hit, switch animator to damaged state. Damaged state swaps active mesh to a damaged mesh. Bones on boat used to manipulate turrets etc. Particle effects for fire and what not.
Shader's can also be used to simulate certain effects like deforming mesh geometry but that's high level wizardry.

>>248885968
>Shader's can also be used to simulate certain effects like deforming mesh geometry but that's high level wizardry.
but how do you close the loop so that the modified vertices go through to be further modified on the next frame?

>>248885517
>Arcades became a popular hangout where people got laid, did drugs, and played games in between.
Can't quite place it, but sounds familiar.

>>248886253
>got laid

>>248885517
So basically if the new rift and index are basically the same shit as what we've got and none of the new games coming out are actual games, we'll get a repeat of the atari crash?
Honestly I don't see portability being a driving feature for vr in the same way it was for video games in general. You have to fully immerse yourself in it by completely covering your eyes and moving your body around to use it. You can't do that on the way to work or on breaks or discretely in class which is a massive proportion of people who use portable game systems (including but not limited to phones). Of everything hinted at hardware-wise so far, knuckles are the only innovation and fov/screen clarity are the only improvements to existing hardware. With the way things are looking, the zucc might get kicked in the dick trying to cash in on what made facebook such a cash cow. Wouldn't shed a tear for the kike but there's so little information on what the future holds for vr that it makes me worried they might have already sunk too much cash into something that we (or at least I) don't want to turn it around.

>>248886381
their imagining the nigger that has one in his backpack and goes to the park with it.

>>248886381
I would say more if the Rift S, Index, Vive whatever are all samey and basically repeats of this gen of headsets as well as Google, Microsoft, Apple, and other companies jumping in as well THEN we would see a repeat of the crash.
At this level of hardware I could see VR simply dying off over time if they don't keep moving forward but not a hard crash.

>>248886582
vr already 'crashed' mid 2018

>>248886582
We already had a sort of soft crash in 2015-2016 when the big devs pulled back a bit because Oculus devkits with Xbox controllers weren't setting the world on fire. No one can really seem to calibrate their expectations for VR or invest consistently in development.

>>248886756
Yeah, certainly a soft crash.
Not a "oh god bury our mistakes in a landfill in the middle of a desert" crash though.

>>248886582
Another important thing might be compatibility. Back in those days one game worked on one system and they didn't have multiplayer or at least online multiplayer. If Joe buys a vive and can't play with Jack who bought a rift and neither can play with Jill on her WMR then in order to get the multiplayer that's a huge part of gaming today, they'd have to all buy one type of headset. Naturally people won't and everyone that doesn't will be left out. It'd be a waste of money for everyone that doesn't which could be more than half that buy it depending on the number of headsets available. Because VR is far less populated than say console gaming where cross compatibility isn't really prevalent you can't get around that problem by simply having enough numbers within each system to cover it. I don't really need to preach to you fags about how bad exclusivity is for the consumer but here in vr it's not really such an issue. Some games don't run quite right on certain controllers (like budget cuts on WMR) but the multiplayer games all have development time put in to make sure they work on every headset. That alone may well stop the big crash that early home gaming faced.

Are Valve Knuckles released when Valve Index comes?

>>248887490
yes, retard-kun

>>248887090
Yeah, Ubisoft in particular have been pushing cross play in their VR games (even with PSVR)

>>248887525
Have they announced any prices yet?

>>248887649
No, but I imagine a full bundle will be about $500/600

What do you have against people who drink every now and then? They're just desperately trying to open up to you.

https://uploadvr.com/beat-saber-adds-crab-rave-for-free-in-new-update/
Based

>>248887830
Drinking 3 times a week is ok, more then that is kinda Alcholic.
1 or 2 beers a day is fine too, but it will make you fat and unattractive.

>>248880289
>feel like working on a mom tier body
>"this base seems aight!"
>titty weightpainting
https://i.gyazo.com/477f61f77eab39a0451c0bfba6a462e3.png

>>248888143
>Drinking 3 times a week is ok
no it's not, you drunkard

>>248888721
Wednesday,friday and saturday are drinking days.

>>248880289
Thoughts on big monsters and how to make them fair to fight?

>>248888932
fighting big monsters in flat games designed for fighting big monsters is only fair and rewarding like a third of the time.
direct melee with the monster is a no-no, I'd do something with weak points disconnected from the monster that pop out of the ground, and clearly telegraphed attacks, so fighting it revolves around dodging it's attacks and hitting the weak points when they're available.

>>248889116
Wow, that sounds fucking casual.

>>248889356
the alternative is wagglan that doesn't work 60% of the time due to vrchat netcode

do you think there are non-human entities that use vrchat to interact with us?

>>248889116
Yea a series of triggers that brings it’s insane health lower and more reasonable but maybe like 1 or 2. Your still gonna need to whack

>>248889116
Hmmm. That would work. Thanks anon gonna incorporate that popping up weak point idea on some of the big monsters.
But for the others would a noticeably slow swing be good as well?
Obviously the jaw, claws and tail would be points you don't want to get hit by.

>>248889420
Sorry buddy, this isn't a vrchat thread, this is a forest VR thread.

>>248889420
Oh shid they're on to us. Hide!

>>248888810
t.alcoholic

>>248889506
Oh boy, I sure love The Forest!

>>248889680
Even in the forest I have to deal with trannies wanting their crotches cleaved open. Smh

>>248889506
>>248889680
>>248889886
stop avatarfagging

>>248889886
Dude, I just wanted to chop wood.

>he quoted different posters
>two different games

Assuming valve index will be as good as it sounds.. will I be able to use it as a regular old HMD to replace my monitor. Or can you only do that if a specific program/windows has a setting for it

>>248890245
oculus dash is by far is best if you want that. Wait for the Rift S if you want a virtual desktop.

>>248890415
there's a virtual desktop app on steam and one built into steamvr already.

>>248890469
yes, but oculus dash is much better and free.

>>248890415
>>248890469
The way you keep saying "virtual desktop" makes it sound like I won't be able to just use windows like I would with a monitor.

Is there a reason for this? Why do I need a specific dashboard environment?


Like I want to do everything in the headset including programming. I have adhd and being enclosed in the headset will help me focus a lot more I think

>>248890671
no it doesn't work like that. windows doesn't have any kind of driver that would work with the headset as a monitor.

>>248890819
I see, thanks guys.

Why are you fuckers so old?
I feel so out of place when half of you are almost a decade older than me.

>>248892383
Because people are born all the time, it's not like people stopped fucking and giving birth to new people for 9 years at a time.

>>248892383
t.zoomer

>>248892383
how old are you, son?

>>248892383
This is an 18+ website founded in 2003 so you have to be at least 34.

>>248779806 (Cross-thread)
Another teaser. Some of the monster makers are starting to make theirs and it's pretty nice to see coming to life bit by bit.

What about you anon? What is your ideal monster like?

i'm the biggest monster of them all
i don't deserve to live

>>248894489
Anon if you recognize your actions as monstrous maybe start figuring ways how to make amends, seek and fork for forgiveness and change for the better.
We're all gonna make it

>>248894391
Will there be thread goblins as a monster?

>>248894786
no it's too late

>>248894812
No monsters that want revels and feeds on attention will be made S-sorry anon

https://youtu.be/idIaSUiMVJE

>>248894489
There are no monsters only misguided and blind humans stuck in binary think

Anon, please have a wonderful day today!

>>248897090
Only if you give me a boobjob with your flat chest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2zw4x0oNJs

>>248862232 (Cross-thread)
Yesterday was some major bullshit desu. At one point you stood directly on a grenade without taking damage.

https://streamable.com/hkd49
fuck flashbangs
>>248899070
I think I would remember that happening and I don't, must've been someone else

Why is it so important to only move the mesh and not the armature of the appended object when using merge armature tool in CATS blender add-on?

>>248899464
Have you got the whole thing recorded? You were here, had just killed multiple attackers, walked directly onto the grenade, it exploded and nothing happened. Tundra and someone else commented on it while spectating.

Seriously though any interest for "The Forest"?

So it seems that the newest beat saber update to v0.13.1 broke literally all mod support yet again. Right after most mods were working on v0.13.0. Fuck this shit I'm out.
Updating beat saber was a mistake

>>248899939
https://streamable.com/aghvi
Oh yeah, you can see the grenade stop right at the curb, if it blew up half a second later or was thrown further it would've dealt damage

>>248900505
>https://streamable.com/aghvi
That is some grade A bullshit

What's your opinion on Valve HMD guys? Worth waiting for or should I go buy a Vive/Occulus? Not sure what to do, please advise

>>248900202
They've already said they won't support mods officially.

>>248901217
We don't know anything past fake/pending leaks and images. We know it'll be lighthouse tracking based like the Vive, and that it'll have an IPD slider and two passthrough cameras, and will come with the knuckles controllers. That's about all that's actually confirmed.

>>248901217
There is no information out there about the Index's capability. Wait until their May announcement before making a decision. Even if you wanted to get a Rift S, you'd have to wait until later in the spring, anyway.

>>248901217
Unveiling is scheduled for just a month from now. Why wouldn't you wait if you weren't in enough of a hurry to have a headset already?

>>248901217
I'm so done with my Vive that I'll preorder it on day 1

Hopefully it'll come with Lighthouse 2.0 and Valve sells 2.0s as singles so I can finally get a 4 Lighthouse setup.

>>248890469
you can't use it in a game and pin overlay windows.

>>248889420
spiders use your headset when you're away

>>248889420
Short answer probably yes

>>248880214
this could be made very performant if they optimized the lightmap. Realtime is not necessary in a dark map, just lightprobes for avatar illumination.

>>248889420
yes they are called cum dumpsters. usually identified by the nepbar roll or heart-shaped pupils

>>248906329
Not having fully baked lighting or occlusion culling is the bane of most worlds' performance. Any world with under 500 drawcalls should be relatively okay in a 20 man instance if the above 2 things are there. Once you get past 30 people in VRChat mostly anything will buckle under the pressure, at that point it's not the world, the main problem is user avatar IK as always.

>>248880106
this patent expired today, let's get this thing into production boys

>>248906945
pretty much!
Not just avatar IK, but trying to draw lighting across all of them too.
avatar IK should be culled at a distance and occlusion culling should be on every single world.
Sounds like I need to make you guys some kind of wide open but still interesting space that is set up correctly for vrg.
Maybe something that can change over long periods of time so it stays interesting, like a day/night cycle.
The most popular worlds are those that run well with tons of people.
the great pug actually does this in a very interesting way, because of the shape of it, perhaps coincidentally, each area has an occlusion volume. This cuts down significantly on the rendering since everyone is hidden from everyone else a lot of the time.
You can also decrease load on properly built maps by hanging out next to a wall or just around a corner, since you'll occlude 50% of your viewport and performance will go up.

>>248907062
I wonder how current gen vr headsets got around this thing's patent.
it's actually really interesting that the knobs and dual lens system look similar to the Valve Index.
Perhaps they were literally waiting for it to expire to implement such a thing.

>>248907341
Well yeah, actual map size shouldn't have that much to do with performance, should it? In some ways, it should be a boon to it, since there would be more ways to take advantage of occlusion culling that are more natural. Although that doesn't really matter if the people themselves don't take advantage of it.

I still don't think there's any world that runs well with 30+ people though. It's just how VRChat is.

>Minimum Os: Windows 10
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Was really hoping that valve would be offering more support for other Os's since they pushed proton pretty hard.

>>248908337
Imagine actually believing you're not being spied on because you're not using Windows 10.

>>248908337
I don't have the screenshot of the store page, but I thought it was supposed to support Linux too.

>>248908514
Thats a yikes from me.

>>248908337
steamvr/vive has linux support, and apparently you can run most vr games through proton. valve index will likely have hardware support a well. I've never been able to test myself though, because >cuckulus

>>248908337
windows 7 and xp arent safe either

>>248908337
only pedophiles are still using windows 7

>>248909774
>And?

>>248908337
just run linux 4head. (yes it will work there too).
If you're so concerned about security you should not be on a microsoft OS, use Linux.
Ironically Apple cares more about your privacy than microsoft does, objectively based on telemetry sniffing the os, but you should be running a pi-hole if you're so concerned.
All you need to do is install windows without a key, don't use a microsoft account, and re-install windows when there's major updates.
they still give you most windows updates without a key. Microsoft would rather you use the OS than shut down pirates.
Run a pi-hole on a hard blocklist + vpn and auto-block all connections to servers you don't recognize/approve.
simple as that.
You can use windows 10 without sending anything, they literally can't get anything from you if you're sending out nothing.
Also, since you don't really need a key, just run windows pro workstation. It's pretty clean in terms of bloat.
Plus dx12 is pretty good. Linux boot for everything else.

>>248901323
Sony cock turned out to be way sweeter than keeping the original promise of level editor.

We need to develop Pavlov tactics for defeating opponents that are faster and more accurate. Trying to fight them head on is clearly not working.

Is buying armor+helmet automatically a good idea? If it's not actually changing the outcome of a fight, as I suspect is often the case, then it's just a wasted $1000 which can lock you below the threshold of even having a weapon that can complete on even terms. Otherwise, armor in pistol round might be a better purchase than anything else.

Frags probably aren't a very good buy, especially if just throwing them at the start of the round hoping to get lucky. A lot of players only use throwables in that way. You have to land them directly on an enemy to get a kill and sometimes that doesn't work anyway, as here: >>248900505. One flashbang saved for when it will actually make a difference is probably far better.

>>248900202
Mods only break anytime there's a major change to the game engine, like allowing new colors when they added kda.
it's not a big deal and the newest update will be modded within 24-48 hours as always. Beat saber devs know that killing mods outright would completely destroy the home profitability of the game for new headset buyers and they would be stuck with oculus quest and arcade sales only. They might be ok with that, but I doubt it.
If the industry has learned anything from rocksmith, it's that CDLC is what keeps a game popular.
If that happens, they'll be forced to compete with sound boxing which allows youtube links, dance collider, audica, that anime rhythm game, miku, and every other game that will instantly come out in it's wake.
They'll probably also have rampant earlier version piracy and copycat games coming out their ears.
Beat saber is not just technically a good game, it's FUCKING CHEAP, and priced just right.
they're not killing mods. Relax.

>>248911546
bet like half of their current revenue comes from psvr sales

>>248911134
armor+helmet is basically required because unless you're extremely cautious you can get shot from someone you didn't see or hear or dead from a stray single shot, as the damage model is not exactly unrealistic for some things.
frags work well if you know the position of your opponent and you're accurate + quiet and sneaky. Underhanding them works really well.
Focus on not getting shot instead of shooting. It's also mostly a team game. The game is NOT hitscan, and while you can't dodge a bullet unless you're really, really far away, (and almost all maps are small) no matter how fast someone is they still have to squeeze the trigger.
Keep a wall to your back and learn to get aligned fast. If you're not an accurate shooter, get a gun that can be hipfired and put a lot of lead down. Something with a recoil that trends up can actually help you, aim for the largest part of the body, and allow it to recoil for headshots. If they don't get out of the way, they die: but the same goes for you. If they start spraying back, GET behind cover.
Don't blindly run into open areas. The enemy can travel as far as you did in the same amount of time.
most firefights, just like in cs:go, are won by anticipating an enemy and getting the first shot. They can hear your voice and footsteps. Keep your mic low or ptt. When you approach a dangerous area, walk so they have no idea you're there. Try alternate angles. If you hear someone and know where they are, instead of running up to face them, try and outsmart them, nade and flank or smoke so they don't see you and try to be the first one to take a shot when they peek you.
It's a tactical shooter, treat it like one.

>>248911921
oh and psvr too, duh, I forgot. There's likely well over 2 million people who bought it there.
Don't forget though, beat saber was the first vr game to report over 1m sales on steam.
So while there's a non-0 chance they kill mods, I have a feeling they wouldn't shoot themselves in the face like that.

>>248912346
oh, one more thing, pavlov doesn't have full body or even hip tracking as far as I know, so you can't exactly lean around corners.
But due to vr, it FEELS like you can.

Because of that you might THINK you're just sticking your head out, but in reality the whole core of your body is now around the corner. Don't do that.
Peaking UP from cover is fine, peaking AROUND cover is not.

Watch what pros do in vrml:
https://www.twitch.tv/pavlovmasterleague1/videos
You'll see that in both pavlov and onward they don't peak from the side, ever.

>>248912346
>armor+helmet is basically required because unless you're extremely cautious you can get shot from someone you didn't see or hear or dead from a stray single shot, as the damage model is not exactly unrealistic for some things.
It only really makes a difference on eco weapons. Good players are rarely using SMGs or shotguns anyway. rifles completely ignore the vest. I've found the helmet doesn't even save you from headshots because it's usually more than one bullet that instantly hits your head. Very rarely have I lost a helmet and actually survived.


A lot of what you listed in the second part doesn't make a difference in practice. If I hold and angle and pre-fire I still lose because they can do it even better. I presumed it was peaker's advantage so I tried pushing and they still won. The number of times I've fired, immediately hit their head and still lost is becoming uncountable. This has going on for weeks and it seems like it's not even worth firing at them from the front.

>>248911134
Just kick him from all vrg lobbies. You know who.

>>248913314
>>248913676
again, watch VRML.
Weapons always drawn while walking, not running. Always aiming correctly, microcorrects are all that is needed.
It's just practice and possibly a gun stock, though less important with handguns.

>>248913995

>>248913314
>>248913676
alternately, get into space junkies. Movement in that game is more important, most guns have splash damage, and just not being a motionlet gets you wins.

>>248911134
here's a suggestion

>>248913676
If you're going to start kicking anyone who's better than you, make sure to mention you're hosting noob lobbies. I'll just start hosting real lobbies again where people are actually allowed to try.

There are wall hacks for pavlov.

>>248915051
there's also speedhacks, because it's vr, and they can only control physical movement so much.
walking backwards/forwards while using artificial locomotion can make you travel incredibly fast as well, but that's a "feature" not a bug.

>>248915051
>>248915378
Surely no one would do this in a vrg lobby

>>248915051
I used to suspect this, but MP was immediately good at Contractors too, so I highly doubt it.

>>248915051
>>248917485
If you want to see for yourself that he doesn't wallack, just hang around him and talk loudly and watch how bad it disrupts his play.
He also prefires at teammates relatively often.

>>248913995
The good players don't even do this. They sprint around most of the time and one fires accurately from the hip at all ranges.

>>248915889
>join a friendly lobby of known peers
>use wh
The poor soul that would actually do that just to win instead of spending time and effort to learn how to deal with tough enemies

>>248915027
Explicit casual lobbies are probably a good idea at this point. I've played since 2017 and can't compete at all any more. What hope does a completely new player have? Most who have ever played Pavlov with us have stopped. I don't really enjoy it because it's just eco round after eco round and when you finally get a gun it makes no difference. I'd rather go back to voluntarily using bad weapons if I'm doing too well.

>>248919913
what timezone are you from? i only just started pavlov so this idea wouldn't be too bad for me either

>>248905092
Once you've had a spider inside of a motorcycle helmet doing 60mph+ this becomes a lot less unsettling

>>248919913
We used to have casual/newbie lobbies but everyone in those got good.

Basic tips on how to deal with enemy top fragger
Use cover, doesn't matter how good he domes if you don't peek until/unless you have numbers to take them on
Use numbers, every time the ironsight moves it takes a little while to readjust it to a new target, use that time and avenge your domed buddy
Team communication, you know where the top fragger is and what their most likely point of entry is, communicate with team with a 3 count when to peek at same time, keep those ears sharp and when you hear them near gesture with hand when to make your move with peeking
Granades, you have flashbangs, frags and smokes use them well, you hear them coming, lob a flash at them and kill them before they blind spray you, lob a frag to their point of entry when you expect them there or just flat out smoke them to buy time and force them to choose a unfavorable point of entry
If all else fails, spray so much damn lead to the fugger they cannot survive, line up 3 nuubs with mac10's and fill the top gun with lead, you can also add pistol to the left hand, you've seen the movies where bad guys do this, this isn't a movie and they don't have plot armor spray and pray

>>248920489
Also if you are bottom fragger take one for the team and let your team know where the enemy is by being the first one to take one to the head, sometimes the best you can do for your team is to die for it to provide crucial info to your hiding buddies

>Like finally gone

>>248920489
Good tactics. What sucks is if they use them too. Imagine you kill them and then as soon as you think you're safe a teammate that's just a little worse than the top fragger domes you. That could be annoying.

>>248921690
>>248920489
what's domeing

>>248921690
Team balance is hard stuff, don't worry usually with time the skill difference starts to even out and only the hard trainers / talented ones really stand out and even they can be killed but require some niche trickery and cheesy tactics
>>248922079
Headshotting / dinging

vrchat updated its minimum specs. based. take a hint 7fags, you're not welcome in vr

>>248911134
Grenades are basically my only saving grace. Outside of doubles and triples from flanks, most of my kills are from grenades. I've learned the common hiding spots and how hard and fast they fly through the air when thrown. I can cook and place them just right to make them explode just as they pass a corner or clear the top of a box people are likely to be hiding around. Working out the map timing helps too - knowing where enemies will be if you both run straight down a lane - because it narrows down the potential spots they can be hiding. The only problem with them is you can only have 3 total. I'd fill every hole with grenades if I could. Ditch the pistol and knife for another pair.

>>248920489
I don't think is going to work if you're just objectively not as fast or accurate. They've got an entire team as well. Even when you coordinate everything to shut them down you then have to deal with the rest of their team with a disadvantage. Ends up feeling like nothing is ever enough. Just roll 6 ten times before <6 comes up 10 times. It's a statistical loss.

>>248923249
Nice.

>>248923484
I can stop grenades flying off at max speed. A light toss to get it over a barrier throws it out of the map. Sometimes merely letting go applies max velocity. Then you get the janky added velocity when it hits anything and completely defies the laws of physics.

>>248923872
Well you were at disadvantage when you didn't get the golden shot at your team but it's just advice on how to deal with that, you'll be the underdog but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to give em hell for it, if teams are even semi balanced otherwise then getting the top fragger golden shot out of the picture levels the playing field nicely

so, pavlov anyone?

>>248925045
>if teams are even semi balanced
They haven't been for quite a while.

>>248925276
Room for a total shitter who started to play it 3 days ago? pro's are i'm not a teamkiller/griefer and i don't rage
https://youtu.be/vK4gv11PTI8

>>248925484
well i started yesterday and i'm fine to play with/against anyone, i just want to play
no idea if we can get enough people at this time of the day though

>>248923249
>no, not VRChat!

>>248925602
I would

>>248925871
okay let's give this a try

Pavlov Beta
Host: pyopyo
Pin: 0505
will start off with some gungame until we hopefully get more people

>>248926165
ok fair warning I'm bad and I don't talk a lot

first exiles from discord
then the meetups
now pavlov?
ya'll are control freaks

>>248926449
Sorry but who has been exiled from meetups or pavlov?

>>248899590
The tool takes the movement you've done to the mesh and applies it to the armature, so if you've also moved the armature then it will be offset by the amount you moved it.

>>248926165
Count me in too, EU or NA?

>>248926907
i'm eu but i'm hosting on na atm, don't think it makes a big difference seeing as everyone had similar ping yesterday anyway

>>248926987
all I need to do is opt into the beta and the update does the rest right

>>248911134
Biggest problem /vrg/ has currently is forcing a buy every round. It's okay after a pistol round or if you've saved up, but when you get hard reset on a tight match you should really know when and how to eco and coordinate them.

Kevlar is usually not worth it but the helmet is a must buy if you have a rifle, unless you're absolutely certain everyone has rifles. In a duel without armor, an mp5 is going to be even with an AK.
Frags are very strong in pavlov, as are flashbangs because they're unavoidable. $400 is a small price to pay for a guaranteed kill if you successfully flash someone, and frags are much stronger than they are in CS because you can cook them, throw them much further and they deal a lot more damage. In CS they're not even used for kills, just softening up opponents. They're hard to use and it requires knowledge to know when and where to use them. That streamable is an outlier with both terrible and great luck.

>>248927103
yup

Just got my USB sound card
It STILL buzzes
Why is my PC cursed?

>valve index is the same as vive pro but with knuckles
well that's disappointing

>>248927112
>an mp5 is going to be even with an AK.
Lolno
>Frags are very strong in pavlov
April fools was yesterday

>>248923249
The stream player is still just as broken on 8.1 as it is on 7, so I'm not sure why they didn't just update it to 10. As far as I know, that's the only thing broken anyways.

>>248927267
Is it plugged into the right usb port
As in, don't plug it into a usb hub, try the ones in the front and back and possibly your usb3 shit

>>248927329
Not if it's priced at 400 dollars

>>248927559
what the fucks the right USB port

>>248927329
Unless you've got a source that we don't, there aren't actually any details out about the headset yet. I'm pretty confident it'll be an upgrade over the Vive Pro though.

>>248927112
I really dont see too many players understand that sometimes you need to just buy nothing and do an eco round.
Ask a teammate for a knife and try to get a cheap knife kill. Works more often than you'd think. I get a knife kill on my eco rounds more often than not.

>>248926449
While I don't want to ban them, just create an alternative, they would deserve it. Consistently stomping everyone for months on end is pretty retarded. Even mice understand that you can't expect anyone to play with you if you never lose.

>>248927735
>im not banning him
>but none of us are gonna play with him

>>248926449
Who has been exiled from meetups discor and pavlov?

>>248927787
Freedom of association.

>>248927847
people have been exiled from at least one of these individually now you control freaks

>>248927889
just say he's banned from mommys official lobbies

>>248927673
Are knives not free? This whole time I thought I just couldn't find the knife slot.

>>248927924
I can't think of anyone exiled from the meetups or from pavlov.

>>248928065
then you're actually retarded
you're exiling mushypeas right now
u5-11 and hibecca and rasmus and faith were all exiled from meets

>>248927735
>train hard so people will want to play with you without you dragging them down
>become so good people start banning you from lobbies and you end up without teammates anyway
Golden shot i salute you
https://youtu.be/N_vJMHMBzLM

>>248927373
TTK with an mp5 against no armor is 0.331s
AKM is 0.493 regardless of armor
not to mention recoil differences, an mp5 is a laser compared to AKM. Literally all smgs are better than the AKM against unarmored targets
Frags are also very strong, it's rare but a perfect nade can kill someone on full health

>>248927993
I doubt anyone would even kick them because it puts the responsibility on you. Just leave when you get tired of losing.

>>248920680
This part is boring and I may as well not play. Add to that the beta broke 90% of players' mics and it's totally pointless.

>>248928176
Crushed veggies is very safe from being exiled, mommy wouldn't let that happen.

>>248927993
I'm starting to think you're doing this mommy thing unironically considering you all act like a bunch of children.

>>248928859
mommy has not prevented a single exilation to this date and participates in starting u5-11 kicks

>>248926987
>>248927103
Still can't see the lobby, how do i opt into the beta?

>>248928176
>>248928957
U5 is underaged vrca

>>248928957
They don't actually have any power other than being a mod in the Discord and somehow being able to convince a critical mass of people to go through a portal. And putting their name on a votekick will cause a majority win followed by a joke votekick on Yuru.

>>248927392
stream player works on 8.1 for me

>>248929049
Lobby might be full if you can't see it. If you're in the beta, your "main menu" is a room with firing range targets. On the main branch it's an empty room with a few large windows

>>248929450
banned from vrca even

>>248929737
Oh, that makes more sense then.

>>248928250
You haven't actually improved, you're just on mushy's team all the time, which you don't seem to have noticed, so you have an advantage. Are you celebrating ironically or do you actually think you've done well when it's 4v1(with no health left) and you hit them with a single bullet? It's embarrassing.

>>248929478
>joke votekick on yuru
nah im seruously posting yes

>>248927267
new psu time. Try a better grounded outlet.

>>248930460
psu is gold standard
ive tried all the outlets in this room

>mushy bullies on end in game because he's too good
>people retaliate by bullying mushy in thread
wow just like when you faggots get bullied in real life and then take it out anonymously online

>>248927329
no, the quad lens system will revolutionize everything.
It also probably has 135 deg fov per eye, and maybe even a focus adjustment along with ipd.
it's going to change shit forever. The patents on quad frenel will mean no god rays, no bleed and no sde.
it's not going to be cheap but it's going to buttblast every other hmd.

>>248930538
Good luck bullying when there's no one to play with sweetie.

>>248930508
you're getting EMF somehow then, badly. Are you using the same powerbar? have you tried bypassing the powerbar?

is your mainboard maybe grounding out on your case?

>>248930891
>is your mainboard maybe grounding out on your case?
maybe

>>248930891
have you got a ferrite ring somewhere? you could try adding that to a usb extension.
if your mainboard has "dac up" ports like gigabyte does (they're yellow) try those.

>>248930189
Outsiders pov on people banning the top fragger is all, i have not played with vrg yet

>>248931027
i have a gigabyte motherboard just blue usb and black USB
i tried and internal sound card
doesnt work
USB sound card
doesnt work
none of this shit fucking works
my rift mic doesnt buzz
its USB
why doesnt this USB shit work

>>248929825
Ok figured out how to do it now, ill try to join after it downloads an update

>>248931319
the cable is super short - the rift has a super high quality usb cable and controller internally to protect the hardware, and it's distance from your mainboard filters out the noise, probably.
I would pull your mainboard and make sure that you're not bridging out your IO plate or the mainboard itself on something metal in the mainboard, like a missing or misplaced brass standoff.

>>248931732
why cant shit just work like the rift mic

>>248930324
Why

>>248932212
unban me

>>248931890
because there's something fundamentally wrong with your computer.
Look on the bright side: that emf could morph into crashes or a blown capacitor, frying your video card, etc.
This symptom is just that, a symptom, especially since it happens on mainboard audio as well as usb audio as well as a pci card.
You're lucky this is the only thing that's causing issues at the moment, but it's a symptom.
Also you could have gotten a dud psu, unless you've swapped the psu to try to fix this and it was still there.
I would try re-seating everything and making sure there's no mainboard touching anything metal, or for example your front panel USB ports or audio ports are bridging out or just causing issues generally. I've seen crazy shit like fans plugged into spdif or usb headers, all kinds of stuff cause issues.

Kemono starting now!

Join off illexan

>>248932332
If yuru is one of the mods in favor of unbanning you why are you bullying him in the thread?

>>248932478
its probably just the mic, i put my headphones into the USB sound card no buzzing

>>248932848
fukc yuo yuruo u dumd piese of sheit imma fukcin doxx u

>>248932878
I thought you were getting buzzing on both?
Also if you got the adapter I suggested a few threads back (the ugreen one) you might need to put that little dongle on your mic before you can use it.

>>248932928
You're not fooling anyone anonymous poster
https://youtu.be/ra3rF4b6O3E

>>248933168
Yeah I got the UGreen one, no audible static on the headphones. The cables on this mic probably just suck ass I'll try an antlion mod mic I guess

Posting again in this thread:

If anyone would like to learn how to fly planes in VR let me know. I'm currently getting reach to teach an Anon how to fly the SU-25T in DCS.

I would like to thank the person who gave me some great advice for talking to strangers in vrchat
I have followed your advice and I had my first decent conversation today without me shutting the game of out of fear. I listened to a group who was talking about things and once there was a topic that I was interested in I started talking to this one guy.

Thanks a lot

>>248933168
i have a little lav mic with a short wire going into an extension cable, 3 ring trs into a 3 ring trs extender into a 2 ring trs adapter(it adapter not needed for the ugreen card)
if i touch the copper bit on the extender the static goes WAY up
i think this fucking mic is getting my bodies electrical current as interfeence

>>248927673
>>248927112
If you buy nothing on pistol round you can buy armor, helmet and mp5 every round even if losing.

>>248933972
>DCS
is it free

>>248934094
it's leaking oms for sure. have you tried mic to just ugreen adapter/ugreen mic adapter? because man, that's crazy.
also don't forget to crank the resolution of it in your sound properties though, I like 96khz 24 bit for a good balance. it's crazy good for being a cheap little 19$ jobbie.

>>248934410
Aka, the lose every equal engagement loadout.

>>248934410
Why set yourself to lose the pistol round? Also it seems like you get $1500 for the first loss and it ramps up from there, not sure if bomb plant gives a team bonus.

>>248934567
>leaking oms
leaking what

>>248881896
The 'S' stands for 'shitty'. It's literally the 'Rift Shitty', it's the shitty WMR HMD they licensed from Lenovo to replace the Rift so as to avoid competing with themselves when they launch the Quest (which is their real 'Gen 2' offering). It's the laughingstock of the entire PC VR community, even diehard Oculus fanboys.

Our total knowledge about the Valve Index is pretty small, right now, but it can be pretty safely assumed to be the overall best HMD (again, even by diehard Oculus/PSVR/whoever fanboys). It's going to have totally unique features not found in any other HMD (eg. haptic headphones, some special optics, some kind of BCI or biomonitor), and either at least a comparable resolution or possibly the highest resolution yet seen. How much you're going to have to pay for all that is the likely sticking point.

>>248882643
Absolutely wait for the May 1st full reveal blowout and opening of preorders for the Index before deciding. There is a chance it won't be as expensive as we fear.

>>248934715
He probably meant Ohms, a measure of resistance. Headphones and microphones have a certain impedance to them that's measured in Ohms and making contact with the copper bit on your extender may detune that.

>>248935129
so a new mic requiring a preamp would probably solve all my isssues wouldnt it?

>>248935014
I fully expect a minimum of 600usd for the entire kitten kaboodle, but realistically speaking probably 600usd for the hmd alone.
Replacement lighthouses and vive dildos are over 100$.
I'm expecting 800 big ones.
but that's okay, I have a fully paid off credit card ready and waiting for day 1 purchase.

>>248935273
>kitten kaboodle
Kit and kaboodle
yours is cute though

>>248935206
not if you get noise on your headphones on other adapters, a good mic might cover it up, but you're getting noise generally speaking. That's something you wanna look into.

>>248935014

>>248935273
The theory they will sell below a regular profit margin to gain market control seems to have merit, especially considering how they distributed knuckles so generously.

>>248935396
im not getting any noise in my headphones on the internal sound card, nor the USB adapter no motherboard with the headphones

>>248935361
realistically speaking the Index will allow me to get closer to virtual catgirls bred for human companionship, and that's a future we all can appreciate.

>>248934552
I don't know why my reply didn't post. Fucking PC. Yes, it's "free".

Anyways. You get two aircraft for free, one that's 'full fidelity' (meaning you can flip literally every switch in the cockpit and it'll do what the switch says) but it has no combat capability. The other is a SU-25T (pic related) that doesn't have a cockpit you can click around in but it does have full simulation.

The most common DLC that people buy is FC3, which gives you 9 aircraft that are on the same level of simulation as the SU-25T (which is honestly very high).

>>248935273
>600usd for the hmd alone
I'd skip this generation then. People think just because index is the first suitable upgrade to vive after 2.5 years it will take more than a year to have an index 2.0 or whatever comes next. I doubt it and the next one might push the resolution into the vision-like range. Or it might come with eye tracking.

>>248935517
it's not unknown for valve to do that but I think they want to make money this go around. Not sure. It's possible that they expect to make more on the vr games that will be sold thanks to the headset, and that would make sense.
However, gabn is on record saying that they'll strive to make the best headset possible before worrying about price, so I'm expecting at least a little stickershock at first, but nowhere near Vive or CV1 levels.
I'm sure the price will drop after a year or so, too.

>>248933493
jsut ubnane ,me dumdass

>>248935517
And they gave away 7000 Vive dev kits for free to conference attendees once.

>>248935860
My perspective is this.
If an HMD costs less than a half decent 27 inch gaming monitor, keyboard and mouse, it's "cheap" as far as hmd's go.
I couldn't care less about my flat monitor these days, it's all about the headset.

>>248935860
I forgot I don't have a hotas. sounds fun though.
By the way what's the difference between that and xplane? I used to play xplane 9 a lot.

>>248935860
It will definitely take more than a year for Valve and Oculus to amortize their R&D enough that they're comfortable releasing a new revision. That leaves you waiting for HTC, Pimax, or some WMR manufacturer to pull out something exciting, which I think is unlikely.

>>248936043
That's like 300, everyone knows it's not going to be that low.

>>248936215
why wouldn't the HMD by itself be 300?

>>248936018
Oops meant 1400. 7000 was for developers.

>>248935759
DCS is fucking great, but goddamn is it a pain in the ass to learn all the keybinds and to set up your joystick properly. It is a pretty amazing VR experience though.

UGreen anon I can't get the UGreen drivers to install either, maybe that's part of the issue? It's being Windows'ed as a realtek 2.0 USB audio device.

>>248936704
>goddamn is it a pain in the ass to learn all the keybinds and to set up your joystick properly
I don't really think so. It's got no more keybinds than Arma really.

>>248936809
this happens when ran from the compressed folder rather than extracting

>>248935879
They will make the most money by having a big market share. The more VR headsets they can get into the hands of players, the more software they will sell. Taking a 200 dollar loss per headset wouldn't be too big a hit for Valve. They've already given out thousands of pairs of knuckles for free to people who barely met "developer" criteria. All signs point to the Index having a good, low price point.

>>248936874
hitting them while your HMD is on though is particularly a challenge

>>248936950
The steeam controller says it all to be honest, higher quality, same price as competition.

>>248937041
That I'll concede to, but you get used to it.

>>248933972
>vrg plays DCS
please let this be a thing, I have nobody to fly with ;-;

>>248936614
They will probably maintain the 800 price point for the complete bundle so I can't see how the standalone hmd would be that low.

>>248934668
you shouldn't be getting into equal engagements to begin with since you're not gonna be the best player

>>248934682
the basic pistol isn't all that bad and as long as you engage with your team you have a good chance to win

I think planting the bomb does give a team bonus

>>248937268
>>248933972
should I buy a hotas from jewbay?
any suggestions? I used to have a CH yoke but the shaft was sticky and I sold it a while ago

>>248936215
$300?
Uh no. A 1ms 27" 1440p 144hz or hell 240hz gaming monitor is more like $500-800 on the low end.
It's only shitty high persistence monitors that dip to like 300. Plus a gaming keyboard, plus a gaming mouse.

This is a fully 6dof tracked wearable with 90hz 1ms extremely low persistence monitors strapped to your face and two motion controllers.
500$ is EXTREMELY reasonable for the whole setup with FOUR lenses. $800 for knucks, two lighthouses and 1 lighthouse + hmd is what I expect (so 3 lighthouses for sub mm accuracy) is actually what I expect. I expect knucks for 200usd and 1x lighthouse 2 for about 100usd give or take.
I would love to be wrong and see it go for cheap.

399$ is crazy cheap for the rift s, and it has LOWER system requirements than the rift.

I'll still buy it either way.

>>248936809
don't bother with the drivers, they're only for windows 7. It's just a high end realtek chip in a small package with built in drivers for windows. You can get better drivers from realtek if you want.
I suggested that one because it's the same one they use in total ripoff audiophile DACs but without the pomp and circumstance.

>>248937575
you said half you silly bitch
also
>500-800 is the low end
literally the most expensive mass produced 27 inch gaming monitors were 700 2 years ago.

>>248937443
I told Anon to buy a Logitech Extreme 3D pro since it's cheap as shit. That way if you really like flight sims you can upgrade to a T16000 or an X-56.

If you're interested on contacting me over Discord, I'm in the /r/VRG Discord as 09-15-00.

>>248937323
Why would they maintain higher pricepoint when lower price point will sell more? I'd buy the whole bundle at 500-600 not 800.
The process of manufacturing is cheaper.

>>248928264
You are supposed to aim for the head with the akm. It's an instant kill at all ranges if you clap them In the head.

>>248937703
Link to the drivers?

Dead hours. Nepbar?

>>248938105
I'm banned from there, I can't. Contact me. ||rubjellyonme##9757||

>>248938638
Oh, fucking nevermind.

Maybe when you're willing to reconcile with me and stop shitposting about Anons I'll consider it.

>>248935273
>Replacement lighthouses and vive dildos are over 100$
From shitty HTC. And the only price point we have for lighthouses is shitty HTCs price of the old 1.0 lighthouses, which are MUCH more expensive to manufacture than the 2.0. I don't think Knuckles are going to be more than $100 a pair, and the lighthouses could easily be as low as $50 (and no more than $100). The HMD is what's a total fucking mystery, it could be $300 or $600. The total set won't be more than $900, that's the third rail.

>>248938638
impostor.

>>248938742
It's youe'r falut dumd fukcen niggrer

>>248938638
>discord spoiler tags

>>248938742
First of all thats clearly not smearjammiesonhimself, and secondly even if it was thats a horrible attitude.

>>248938742
Based, fuck jelly

>>248939508
>complaining about retarded tourists in this thread of all places

>>248935860
We don't know anything about what's inside the Index yet, other than presumably some kind of special optics (based on the yet-unused trademark logo). Generally better clarity and reduced/eliminated optical artifacts/abberations seems most likely, but they also have a weird optical SDE mitigation patent, and something like a varifocal or fixed foveation (like a budget varjo) is not an outrageous consideration. There is a leak which lets us say with some certainty that the resolution is probably EITHER 1440x1600 OR 2160x2432, more likely the former but we don't really know. Valve has a patent for their own eye-tracking solution, so that's totally on the table. It could be the most visually and optically advanced/powerful HMD yet made.

>>248938638
>>248939086
>>248939439
>>248939508
>>248939523
>>248939597
>>248939829
>t. jelly

>>248940137
i was the last two apparently theres two anons being impersonated in the thread, i just talked with logitech anon and we're both confused please drop it

>>248937340
Defenders start at a disadvantage, due to defending two sites while attackers only need to go to one so to avoid equal fights as well while defending would relegate you solely to one ambush position then saving if they take another route.

>>248940301
good idea ive been shittily implementing this without thinking about it, ill try to consciously push for strategy
some people can turn and dome regardless though

>>248939076
For those of us who have received knuckles already, the customs declaration on them valued them at 150 for the pair, which is likely the MSRP.

The cost to manufacture betweeh the 1.0 and 2.0 lighthouses is negligible, just a bit of extra wiring, and an extra motor. The lighthouses are actually made of relatively cheap and common parts. I'm going to guess ~70-80 USD for the lighthouses.

We know from the leaks that the bundle will contain 1 light house, the HMD, and 1 pair of knuckles so...

Lighthouse: $70
Knuckles: $150
HMD: ?????

why are discord users such faggots?

>>248939704
i wish i could

>>248940262
>>248940483
>>248940648
>t. jelly

>>248939076
>>248940398
My estimate is that the full package will be about 600-700 bucks.

Can you guys just DM the autist and repair whatever bridges you think were arsoned? I'm sick of seeing his name every thread.

>>248941224
can you all stop spreading your cancerous community onto multiple platforms that are in no way compatible with each other?

>>248940384
I don't think only attacking with the advantage is actually realistic. A move away from the standard 'meet in the middle and try to win the shoot out' is probably what is needed. If it's established that one team shoots better, why keep doing this?

>>248941357
The /vrg/ discord is /vrg/ official fuck off shitposter

>>248941038
my wallet is ready

>>248941460
yes, keep trying trying to identify discord users on an anonymous image board. great use of the thread.

>>248941823
The threads shit anyway, everyone importants in discord.

>>248941858
then don't fucking come here! At least half of the people that post here have absolutely nothing to do with the discord or any other group of fags outside of the thread. It's just a general thread for VR. You don't own it and you're certainly not obligated to post in it.

>>248942120
There's over 500 of us in discord you thread shitposter.

>>248942178
You are making my point

>>248940398
>The customs declaration on them valued them at 150 for the pair, which is likely the MSRP.
That's a little disappointing, but at least it's not whole-hod $200 per pair I'm seeing thrown around. Individual gamepads should be cheap.

>The cost to manufacture betweeh the 1.0 and 2.0 lighthouses is negligible, just a bit of extra wiring, and an extra motor.
One of two rotors and the sync-blinker in exchange for whatever hardware is needed to modulate the laser. They've cut out more than half the components. It's a design which is entirely and explicitly for the purpose of cutting costs from the relatively expensive to produce 1.0 units. Yes of course this is all 'relatively' expensive, it's all generic commodity parts, but dropping the component cost from eg. $35 per unit to $20 per unit still makes a fuckload of difference at scale, and simplifying the design makes an especially big difference for Valves 100% automated assembly lines. The ASIC sensors are the same situation. It's part of what has always made the Vive Pro pricing so infuriating.

>We know from the leaks that the bundle will contain 1 light house
Lighthouses, knuckles, and HMD will all be sold and packaged separately, the 'bundles' are just Steam Store bundles and we only know their contents through SteamDB. I'm not sure if Steam Store bundles even can have multiple of a single item, currently, if not it is something they're undoubtedly scrambling to add right now. They're not going to recommend people only buy one lighthouse.

fuck off yuki nagato stop cyberbullying me

>>248943151
Im fucking your old VRfu and theres nothing you can do about it

>>248942758
The whole thing looks more expensive to me.

why does my hand look like this but in blender the weight paints are perfectly fine, the bone structure is good, and in unity the muscle editor settings all act normall and i can animate the hand perfectly well? ill post what its supposed to look like next post

>>248779806 (Cross-thread)
>>248894391
They say monsters are not merely constructs of our fears but also of our desires.
In this monster maker's raid will you be able to resist or will you succumb?

SOS Arena event is going to occur about a month from now. More details will pop up as the date comes closer.

As cyberpunk march comes to a close;
we would like to ask everyone to prepare their DnD gear to fight in the arena.
Would be a great way for others to make their medieval fantasy avatar as well if they haven't yet.

god I really want to pin anons who use kemono friends avatars against a wall and fuck them hard

>>248944053

>>248944227
What about boat avatars?

>>248944216
>VRCA
Yikes

>>248944251
>>248944053
Does the bone chain in avatar config look correct?

>>248944216
wtf since when was SOS a vrca thing? I thought htey were vrg only

>>248944352
some boats are okay, but I have personally jerked off to every single anon in vrg that uses a kemono friends avatar.

>>248944547
shutup sos brigade is amazing i love the sos brigade theyre the threads only light and everyone else is a poopy shitposter

>>248944682
as a kemono from vrg, that sounds lewd. Please continue doing so.

>>248944216
>>248944547
It's a meme. See how
>Tupper
Is there too but didn't actually help out.

>>248944216
willl there bee a green shhinobu thread goblin haha i think dal290 coul d make one LOL

>>248944682
>some boats are okay
Which ones?

>>248944909
As stated before. No drama inducing monsters will be made. Event is to be wholesome and fun

>>248944551
yes, everything is placed properly, and every moves properly in the muscle editor

If there is anything I would bully, it would be this post right here. Would never give Jelly the satisfaction of making a model :^)

There you go

>hey son how's the relationship going with your virtual boyfriend?
>when am i going to meet the lucky young man?

Good night anons

>>248945126
dummas the thred goblins nott there??? dal420 couldl maek a good oen!

>>248934000
Congratulations anon! Come to the vrg meet up.

>>248937575
>399$ is crazy cheap for the rift s
NOPE

Rift S price is very clearly just blown up to avoid self-competition with the Quest. It's a Lenovo WMR with a few extra cameras. Single panel with fixed IPD at <90hz is a joke, anon. It's not a sincere product, it's how they save face while backing out of PC VR.

>>248947841
>G-good dad
>Never, goodbye

>>248947841
>gays having good relationships with their dads

>>248948273
millenial dad
zoomer son
sorry you dad was a bigot boomer

>>248948445
Why does everyone forget Gen X existed?

>>248948445
>sorry you dad was a bigot boomer
it's ok I hate gays too

>>248948565
because Gen X is being mislabeled as Boomers

>>248948273
>not having good relationship with your old man despite your differences
You should make peace with them while they are still alive and kicking, whatever beef you two had should be talked through before their time is done that's a awful what if to carry if you let it fester and never get closure to it

>>248948847
>Baby Boomers: Baby boomers were born between 1944 and 1964. They're current between 55-75 years old (76 million in U.S.)
>Gen X: Gen X was born between 1965 - 1979 and are currently between 40-54 years old (82 million people in U.S.)
>Gen Y: Gen Y, or Millennials, were born between 1980 and 1994. They are currently between 25-39 years old.
>Gen Y.1 = 25-29 years old (31 million people in U.S.)
>Gen Y.2 = 29-39 (42 million peeps)
>Gen Z: Gen Z is the newest generation to be named and were born between 1995 and 2015. They are currently between 4-24 years old (nearly 74 million in U.S.)

>>248948601
Based and unpinkpilled

>>248948954
doesn't apply to me I was just using common sense.
>most people hate fags
>most people's dads hate fags
>therefore if you're a fag your dad probably hates you
geez rocket science

>>248934000
I wrote it. Remember that /vrg/ is far more difficult than public instances as they don't already have an established group and are solely looking for new people to interact with. I don't know how exactly is best to enter /vrg/ as I started when it was a single small group, which is very different to now. Low population times are probably better. You won't get noticed at the weekend and so many will be drunk that you won't be remembered.

Earlier reminder post than usual since we'll be trying out a new theater world tonight.
I'm hosting In This Corner of the World tonight in a few hours (10PM EDT). You can join off Silencen or anyone else in Silent Theater if you're interested.
There are may be some issues with emissions if you leave the lights on, so make sure to turn them off. The button to do that will be on your left as you enter the theater.

>>248949057
when people act like nigger faggots I call them zoomers
a zoomer could be 30, I don't care. Plenty of 30 year old guys act like nigger faggots

>>248949181
Loli avatar. Everyone wants to fuck the lolis, the ones who say they don't are in denial and will daughterfu you.

>>248948847
>>248949057
the truth is all generations touched by the Boomer's taint are fated to become the Boomer once they reach their middle age

>>248949863
There must always be a boomer.

>>248949775
Smol avatars have the disadvantage of being harder to notice.

>>248950083
Dont be 2 inches tell retard I said loli not ant

>>248950163
It applies even to below average height.

tfw no one im friends with in vrg is on vrc right now

>>248950459
r u me?

Bunny day is coming up! It's an intermediate difficulty event so even people who don't often do costumes can do it without too much trouble. If you need help fitting bunny outfits, or need help finding a good one, let me know! I'll help out. Let's get as many people in them as possible.

Also, the event recap:
- End of Cyberpunk month is postponed. It will be rescheduled until sometime in April. No date as of now.
- April Fool's is being extended. It will run a full week, starting Friday March 29, through Sunday, April 8.
- Edgy Weekend is being postponed. It will be rescheduled.
- Bunny Girl (or boy) week is being extended. It will run Sunday, April 14 through Saturday April 20.

Looking forward to May:
Cinco de mayo / may the 4th be with you (dtar wars) early may
Maid day and Edgy day will be sometime in May.

And maybe a spring weeb festival at some point.

>>248951253
based
when's the fps lobby?

>>248951253
she has a bulge

>>248951208
clearly not because then there would be someone else online : ^ )

Pavlov has begun
host: Cleetus
pw: 1984

>>248951536
girls have a small mound called the mons pubis as well

>>248951536

>>248938461
All weapons are instant kill on the head without helmet which was the whole point of the comparison. Of course AKM wins when armor+helmet comes to play.

>>248951984
>>248938461
I wouldn't say AKM headshots are significantly more common than doubletaps from other weapons.

Dal please just delete the steam group. You aren't funny

https://youtu.be/Uet030OKMhs
dal290

>>248953393
That's it buddy, I am naming my Koikatsu tutorial Super Creeper 2

>>248953683
you sure showed him

Alright anons and the adoring fans in the thread, Workshop Wednesday is going to be happening again, on an actual Wednesday this time! Koikatsu stuff keeps getting an odd brick thrown at it every time I think the whole process is figured out. Normal maps and all the other textures need to be ground out before I make the tutorial. Could push out with this general stuff, but there are those around who could help show how to properly salvage the textures. How Koikatsu does its shadowing is some freaky shit though, so that will never be properly emulated unless somebody made a dedicated shader based on the way they do it. That kind of exporting aside, cracking the serious sam editor stuff is something that needs to be done. Organizing more games of that for those who missed the first times we did those, and having personalized models would be nice. Was thinking of some garbage like ricardo but that model refuses to properly import into their editor. Kinda down with something too, so don't expect extreme high energy stuff.

DM Dal if you want to play VR games, have an interest in VR games, or wish to host a VR game.

>>248952561
yes they are

>>248954828
Why are you hosting this were ||im banened nigeger faggit||

>>248955040
Learn to stop burning everything when you don't get your way.

>>248955293
You can't possibly think that was Jelly saying he's banned
unless you're flase flagging

Jesus christ you nigger Dal stop Jelly posting faggot I don't need another reason to dislike you.

>>248951253
Still waiting for...
Angel vs. Devil Day, where you dress up as either an angel or demon.
Steampunk Day
Dystopian Future Day, complete with Mad Max, Waterworld, etc. showings at the theater.

>get lowkey doxed
>show statistics
>I am the hater
Damn do I love goblin tears

>>248945032
arrow...

>>248955905
It seriously looks like you're false flagging as J please stop while you're ahead, this is getting out of hand. Stop hating for once in your life.

>>248955905
How is a youtube video as Dal290 being doxxed?

>>248955905
>Jelly commented on my video!
>He clearly doxxed me because of this.

>>248956650
Buddy, that was just the tip, youtube analytics tell you everything.

>>248956756
Jesus christ Dal you are just as bad as the evil bad men you hunt, fuck off.

>>248956756
tahts is fagegit im buyen a bitcoien assassin to kills u

>>248956756
namedrop analytics

>>248956803
>deal with tumblr anon hate for months
>lift finger back
>evil
You keep telling yourself that anon.

Dal take your witch hunt to discord, you fucking faggot.

>>248956970
You are literally so un self aware it hurts, you're sitting here Jelly posting because he left numbered comments on your video, that's proof he "doxxed" you(nigga your youtube is the SAME name) and here we are, witnessing Jelly posting because you have such a hate boner he's the root of all evil.
Fuck off

>>248956970
you're retarded holy shit

>>248957078
I won't reveal any more that the analytics show, just dropped that as a message. Only one anon would be upset by any of this, fuck off yourself.

convince me this isnt dal samefag falseflagging to try to make me hate someone he hates

>>248957186
drope it alel faggit i aint skared of a black maen

>>248956009
I want to sink this boat

>>248957197
add me to this list

>thread becomes discord overflow every day at the same time
why don't you fags just make more channels

>>248957186
Haven't needed this in a while

>>248957365
Funny considering I made that.

>>248957550
Maybe it's time to stop.

>>248956970
>anon hate
>unironically caring about what some anon says to you

>>248956970

>>248957186
Just drop it or fuck off, my patience for you is running thin. Sick of all this vague bullshit with no actual solid ANYTHING.

>>248956296
Is this some next level mind game when you're the one false flagging so god damned much.

>>248958103
Okay where's your proof?
Both sides prove the false flag right now. All you fuckers do is whine _______ is false flagging while shitting up the thread YOURSELF with YOUR identity attached with only info YOU could get from YOUR channel.

jesus christ dal did he try to rub jelly on your asshole or something because you're so butthurt

>>248957696
Understandable, not going to sit by and watch an anon attack anything that lives and breathes in this thread though. /vrg/ needs more life and niggers won't stop doing personal attacks on everyone. This isn't anybody's tumblr, this is a 4channel thread, stop using it like this. VR needs more life and this kind of shit isn't helping.
>>248957863
>caring
Do you see any of this stopping because of an anon bitching nonstop? I care about the ones I have seen attacked that perfectly line up with the "new person he hates". This thread needs to stop being a shitting ground like this.
>>248958064
Learn for yourself anon, stop expecting others to spoonfeed you opinions. Could drop an entire folder of evidence and you wouldn't believe jack shit. Anons wait to be attacked or burned before believing a toxic shitlord is toxic.

Stop shitting up the thread faggots

>>248958310
>not going to sit by and watch an anon attack anything that lives and breathes in this thread though.
This is exactly what you're doing, you just go RRRREEEEEEEE JELLY whenever something rustles your jimmies derailing the entire fucking thread with your god damn hate, what the hell are you doing?

>>248958310
>Could drop an entire folder of evidence and you wouldn't believe jack shit.
Christ you sociopath just dropbox it already

>>248958310
imagine arguing with yourself in a general thread then mass replying self defense when you're just as bad for feeding it

I don't care about Jelly or you Dal sorry it rustles your jimmies so much, don't know why you need an entire crusades against one fucking person though, please continue. This is hilarious

>>248958404
God damn you just love seeing your own name eh. Since the very start anon should realize who the hell has their name plastered so much on the thread in such a fashion. Give up, no one is buying this shit anymore. Just go away and be a sociopath on another place.

>>248958310
I refuse to believe this is Dal, this has to be a shitpost. Nobody is actually like this here.
Good job shitposter, you had me going for a bit.
10/10

>>248958686
Mate you're the sociopath with your folders that prove someones evil. Somebody posted your shitty youtube video and you just couldn't help but turn the thread into JELLY JELLY JELLY in retaliation to your fucking boogeyman. This is hilarious though, you're the greatest lolcow we've had for a while.
Please continue.

>retards from discord try to figure out who's who on an anonymous imageboard for 2 hours

>>248958404
Thread was dead silent save for attack post anyway stop with this "derailing" stuff. You will never understand the pain of fully understanding entire problems knowing full well the facts, and waiting for others to figure it out. The main pain is restraint. Don't want to sink to their level, but we are running out of options. Have watched places burn because of this shit, and /vrg/ has a slow burn to anons "he" or others has attacked or been angry at. It needs to stop. The killcount is too high. I want drawanon back, I want others who have been harassed into the ground to have a thread too.
>>248958473
>>248958856
It was metaphorical, don't keep tabs to that level.

what kind of class should my model be for the d&d event
I want barb but I'm not dressing down for that shirtless look and plebs might be upset

>>248958870
All we know for sure is Dal started this by posting analytics from his channel.
>>248955293
He never tries to hide his identity, right now he's sperging in the thread because jelly's doxxing him or something who knows really

>>248959060
>The killcount is too high
>I want drawanon back
Here you are trying to started a crusade against SmearJamOnHimself, after your successful crusade against Faith and then Rasmus?
Dal, you should be perma banned from the thread. I bet this would all stop.

>>248949057
"Millennial" needs to be defined based on when the millennium changed. It doesn't make any sense to include fags from the wrong millennium.

Just imagine sitting here convincing everyone someone else is evil and not having the self awareness to realise the type of niggotry it takes to be such a massive hypocrite to stoop to the level your imaginary boogiemnan does.
Sad!

>>248959072
How about armor like the shield hero?

>>248959117
>somebody post a minecraft video of a 14 year old
>it was the video owner's fault
Yes.
>>248959259
Stop with the cow shit, Jam is the only one earnestly.

>>248959060
Yikes!

>>248959443
what is wrong with you? he is mentally ill he gets paid enough to live off of it
stop feeding him and diving down to his level it's just him and you bickering over nonsense at this point

>>248959378
It has always meant Gen Y, the first generation to reach adulthood after the turn of the millennium. When you were born doesn't determine the generation because no one cares about the personality traits of a bunch of literal babies.

>>248959443
You are the biggest lolcow here, all it takes to trigger you to sperg out is mistyping a few words. It's almost too easy, you're a lolcow.

>>248878781 (OP)
https://www.quora.com/How-does-anime-affect-our-mentality
>Before watching anime I was straight. After watching a couple of anime I was pansexual. I had become attracted to some of feminine anime guys. I also really started to like cute anime traps
>Anime has made me more feminine. Many girls said that feminine guys look attractive. The feminine anime guys seemed to be getting all the fangirls. That when I realized that what I was told when I was a little kid about how big muscles get all the girls was a lie and that girls perfer more cuter and feminie guys
>Anime has made me hate my life. I see these series where this guy gets all these hot girls and I just sit there wondering :
>why can’t that be me?
Remember not to overdose on anime or you may suffer Anime Brainrot Syndrome.

>>248959812
Dals crazier then Jelly we should transfer the crazy bucks to him

>>248959819
>to reach adulthood after the turn of the millennium
The post I replied to disagrees with you. I was complaining about how it includes people who became adults in the 90's.

>When you were born doesn't determine the generation
So you can really be a 20something boomer today?

>>248959812
I see a lack of steam anon. Anons are getting tired of shit after all this time. Don't want to watch /vrg/ burn because one sperg with too much free time. The thread should be ours, not dominated by whomever can harass ones they can identify enough. VR needs more pushing it, and the ones pushing it are dying out. Help instead of shitting things up.
>>248959959
>this anon
Yes, because he would reply, could give less of a fuck about shitposters eating others shit then laughing, you are too easy to identify. Enjoy your cheap laugh.

>>248960109
He's an upstanding member of society that is trying is best to make ends meet and go through the world. A person that works and on the small free time he gets, plays vr games some times with his friends.
Suggesting you be the same.

>>248960228
I mean they're not named upon the birth of a generation. I phrased that poorly. Obviously it's dependent on your age, that's just tautological.

>>248960246
>Don't want to watch /vrg/ burn because one sperg with too much free time.
Take your own advice faggot you are the one shitting it up right now with random accusations with no proof just because you don't like someone.

>>248960246
VR would succeed on its own if it wasn't shit. I'm sorry you wasted so much money on a piece of junk with no good games

>>248960264
Looks like to me he's just shitposting the thread and trying to witch hunt people.

>>248959812
id argue hes stooping lower

>>248960246
yes, I have seen the light. I too should argue with literal tards on a 4chan thread dedicated to virtual reality and its video games
this guy for the past year and couple of months has done nothing but publicly meltdown and make an ass of himself, you too will be known for this and even harder if you keep it up as you don't have the excuse of being mentally ill

>>248949214
What a great map! Everyone should see it.

>>248960381
Yeah, so I put forth the claim that anyone who turned 18 before January 1, 2000 can't be a millennial.

>>248960621
I agree generally, and other definitions I've seen put it at born 1982-2001. These are all fuzzy at the borders though and no one agrees on them entirely. Some people even consider adulthood to start at 21.

>>248960414
Proof can be fabricated, facts can be warped to mean the opposite of what they mean. You need to stop being a nigger and look into this shit yourself. Do something productive for once in this damn thread. I would hate you if you were one to gobble up information from a thread like this and believe it.
>>248960441
Yeah VR is kind of shit, but its fun and immersive. It can live with enough effort, actively trying to kill what can be better for petty reasons is self destructive and stupid.
>>248960574
A shriveling thread, that is clearly hosting less and less games outside of pavlov pre established circles. We need more VR games played and hosted, and niggers attack anybody who stands up to do that.

>>248960574
I blame people like Dal more than Jelly, at least Jelly has a medical excuse and is actively working on improving. All people like Dal and other thread goblins do is continually drag his name through the mud and false flag constantly.
I seriously think this is fucked and the amount some of you can hate is retarded, ya'll talk about burnt bridges and how this literal tard hurt you so much I have to hate him too, yet every time you ask someone who hates him why the person hating him is either actively doing what they said he does, thereby projecting, making shit up entirely or just hating for hates sake.

>>248960820
You're being the nigger I just wanna talk about VR yet because someone anonymous posted your god damn video I have to hear Dal290's leader Jelly rant number 15 about how we have to execute the tard for the glorious tard executioner and how Jelly is a funny lolcow, you're a sociopath. Fuck outta here keep your garbage in discord the threads like church it's holy grounds.

>>248960820
>We need more VR games played and hosted, and niggers attack anybody who stands up to do that.
for the exception of yourself I haven't seen anyone bitch about hosting any vr games, all I saw at best was people whining about vrchat screenshots and blender/unity photos which I am going to start uploading now since there are some special people posting here.

>>248960820
>pavlov pre established circles
You mean the games posted in Discord and the thread that anyone can join? Ok, there's problems with the lobby filling up in a matter of minutes and the difficulty for new players, but there's no conspiracy to make it exclusive. A dedicated, larger server should alleviate both problems.

>>248960862
>actively working and improving
Where is the improvement? You tell me how this person will be different from what they are right now 1 year from now. 2 maybe, even five. Do you think on this current path this is healthy for him? That he won't end up living like this, growing worse over time? I wish I saw improvement, but all I see is the same shit I saw almost a year ago if not worse. Sorry you don't take the time to understand people and enable them like this.
>>248961047
>thread
>holy grounds
Practice what you preach?

>>248961082
your spam just gets auto deleted half the time but go ahead nigger

>>248961169
You're actively getting worse dal, you were better as a NEET desktopper.

>>248961169
>Practice what you preach?
Back at you retard.

>>248960820
>niggers attack anybody who stands up to do that.
You're sitting here attacking a legitimate autist over god knows what because you won't tell anyone.

>>248949214
...I'm not going to be in for a tear jerker on this one, am I? I just read a brief synopsis and it sounds like some real shit.

>>248961354
Nah, just the mention of the thread being "holy grounds" when it has been used like this is just sad. Wish the thread was better, bet you do to, but clearly that isn't happening, and those who wish to burn it and others will continue to do this.
>>248961434
What's better, going full force and trying to vilify or just dropping "I saw what you did" kind of stuff? Why put the thread through that or the person. Try to avoid doing that so anons verify and look into it themselves. Leaving them to make an opinion for themselves. You can hate me, you can hate them, you can hate everyone it is your choice. Dropped minor shit and look at what it caused.

>>248961169
I'm warning you if you keep this up you yourself will become a problem more than jelly, say as much as you want about him but here you are with this nonsense and have went on like this with someone else from vrg
no matter how you look at this it looks bad and it will only get worse if you keep doing this

>>248949214
The instance is up for the movie, we'll start in ~25 minutes or so.
>>248960583
Yeah, the guy who made it did a really good job on it.
>>248961462
I haven't seen it yet either, but from what I've heard, you might be.

>>248961780
What is there to do then, let the stupid stuff slide nonstop? The thread is already damaged as hell due to this kind of stuff. Let it fester or try and work on it? Inactive passive bullshit or giving at least a singular fuck.

>>248961780
jelly is unironically leagues better than what i just read all jelly does is sperg out and argue with people
this is next level

>>248961942
you aren't mentally disabled so you can still stop doing this, this thread has had him for over a year and it hasnt gotten as bad as it ever has during faithposting, yet it still exists
yes ignore people whining about vr content

>>248961780
if you're gonna keep insist on jelly being a "problem" then give some proofs. Who has he hurt, what are his misdeeds? You're just repeating the same thing over and over at this point.

>>248962161
I can brush it off, but what of the others that have pulled back from the thread. We need to encourage VR players and content, not do this shit because this is clearly not working.
>>248962291
If you asked, like lets say five anons, with names attached, you would eventually hear the body count and tales. Thread proof is shit.

>>248962291
this thread has been derailed enough, I was mainly trying to get a certain anon to back off from the cliff anyways, if you really want to know ask oldfags

>>248962390
>>248962474
Jelly man bad.

>>248962637
Go check out /ss13/, clearly anybody who disagrees with Jelly is an NPC.

>>248962637
Yes namefags, tripfags and people that like seeing their name on the thread so god damned much is bad. Be wary of tripfaggots always. And those that are tripfaggots in essence. So much drama surrounds them it's tiring is it not.

Just waiting on a janny to delete all these posts if he'll be ever so kind so we can just return to posting about VR.

>>248959060
please leave holy fuck

>>248962910
Outside of the Index what VR content has been discussed, games posted, or hosted?

>>248962769
there's a significant difference in ss13 and vrchat though
on one game, he can ruin a 2+ hour round for people by potass bombing chemistry and then flaming the admins
on another, you can tell him to fuck off and a midget loli will just leave you alone

>>248963139
He's fine on Hippie.

>>248963139
>leave them alone
You give me a singular namedrop, don't of course, that has verbally disagreed with him, that has not had thread attack stuff spring up against them. The damage is worse here because VR is VR.