/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #590

First for you're all fucking madmen if you actually fucking did it.

Mayhaw pard'ners
https://streamable.com/m5zr6

>>260140217
>tfw you catch a cold but you're gonna do it tomorrow for sure this time
Maybe I can find some people to go with me and listen to my even more nasally voice as I attempt to keep calm in the face of this behemoth of a task

>>260140217
my controllers and trackers died at the top. They were stuck in this position just after I took the pic.

>tfw no operatorfu

Climbing was fun

Also I need a new semi-realistic body. The Black Desert body is just full of sadness and disappointment.

>>260141732
it looks creepy6

>>260141732
Final fantasy bodies are the only ones ive seen look good in vrchat

>>260140217
Aint noone got 5 hours to spend literally just climbing. Half hour at best

https://garrysmods.org/browse/type/models

.mdl etc are compiled model files

decompile with Crowbar:
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Crowbar

Convert the textures/normals into a useful image format with VTFEdit:
http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?c=178#p178

Import into Blender with Blender Source Tools:
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Blender_Source_Tools

whole process takes 5 minutes at most

>>260142874
also this

haha xd one munth am i right guys xd

>>260143003
you can pull stuff off steam workshop too, of course

bleat saber!

https://streamable.com/b4ex9

>>260145148
bear saber

>>260143003
Very nice.
Going to have fun with all those guardsmen toys.

>>260145148
This map is so good it makes all the others feel like hot shit and it actually pisses me off. I wish there were some others nearly this hype.

>>260146689
I agree, It's my favorite beatmape

Most importantly when are we doing multiplayer beatsaber lobbies again? Autism waggle fest is easily an order of magnitude more fun in a group.

>>260143073
Mfw storm-san knocked out my power on the climb to dlc area

No sadness, no tears, only emptiness.

>>260139978 (OP)

Time to get some practice in /vrg/. Big Announcement coming this Wednesday.

>>260147882
hopefully soon, i will join them if i see them, i don't host though because i'm bad at being host

>>260143073
Congratulations!

>>260148180
Alright then. I don't recall there being events on Thursdays so I'm claiming it for Beatsaber. Be ready lads.

>>260148164
Explain

>>260149332
boomstick

WE DID IT BOYS

>>260148575
excite. i won't be able to make it this thursday, contoller just died today

>>260150172
M U S C L E

What's the best way to rip models from other games? I kinda want my Black Desert character for VRC.

>>260150172
i can't believe this was my first climb and it took 6 fucking hours. i love you all and i'm glad i joined in. see you on the next one

>>260150172
>Objective: Catch Up
>Mission Failed
>We'll get 'em next time.

>>260150172
https://streamable.com/jdpj3

>>260148158
A prayer for our fallen brothers taken by the mountain

>>260150172
photoshop me in, i waited at the top playimg a different game while in desktop mode for 5 hours but needed the cpu usage back

Showing the K-On movie tonight or tomorrow if it's not Tuesday for you yet at 10PM EDT for NA anime movie night. I'll post details to join off of when the world is up.

We'll be /racinginvr/ at Irohazaka in Assetto Corsa this Wednesday around 8PM EDT. Server is already up if you want to practice or try organizing something else on it, and the current car/track mods are in the mega link below. As usual, let me know if you've got any car requests.

Server: vrg racing
Pass: tfwnodriftfu

Mod Downloads:
https://mega.nz/#F!IgMnDK7Y!16gzEjZRZsea9QE3NDQg6Q

Couldn't find the spheres climbing world in the hub but I did find an arctic escape one that has you race a launching space ship. Was actually alright if very generous on the time before launch. Only six more worlds on the list to go.

>>260143003
Damn I have to redownload Gmod for this then, welp, time to give this shit a shot.

>>260150241
What did you do to it?

https://fortune.com/longform/virtual-reality-struggle-hope-vr/
Your dream is kill.

>>260157372
>startup funding
Fuck off retard.

>>260157372
it's the graphics card manufacturers putting a chokehold on the ability for PC VR to expand

>>260157604
looks like everything is choking at the same time though

Are climbing maps the "platformers of VR"? I'm asking this with admiration.

>>260157171
it just won't track anymore, it's slowly been getting worse. new one will arrive soon hopefully.

>>260158262
They would be if you could throw yourself with your arms instead of that retarded shuffle hover you have to do instead.

I can’t ever forget the things I’ve done. The things I’ve said with my gullible heart and weak willpower.

I cannot bear the fact that I will never be pure again, that this torment will likely end eventually and scar up, but the memory of my failure will be a nightmare that I may have to relive at inopportune times in my mind for the rest of my life.

Is my only choice left to be another cumbrain? And then have the part of my brain that feels empathy and love be so thoroughly worn out and depleted that I can finally be as ruthless and hateful as the rest of them at a moments notice without any remorse, while at the same time being as outwardly deceitful and inwardly lethargic in every batch of affection I give out to the next fresh naive soul.

I know rehabilitation is impossible, but I think I’ve come to terms with that. They destroyed my soul and ruined the lives of my friends. I swear to dedicate the rest of my time here to repay them in kind. You’ll know it’s me before long, and I’ll only be finished when my cold dead hands can no longer hold the VR controllers.

>>260157470
The people who make the real decisions have already seen that the VR ship has sunk before it got out of the harbor. That initial enthusiasm brought on by Zucc's infatuation with the tech and absurd valuation of Oculus has long since past.
AR technology on the other hand, has continued to prove that it has a real business case. There has been no waning of enthusiasm there. On the contrary VC money continues to increase for AR/MR where VR may well be near negligible investment next year.
You can claim funding doesn't matter but the experiences you currently enjoy wouldn't exist without those investors. VRchat is the most successful social VR applications and one of the more successful apps in the VR space. Despite that it is a complete money pit surviving off the fumes of the $4mil investment they got back when VR excitement was at it's most irrationally exuberant. VR clearly does not have much reach outside a very nascent niche market. It'll be a decade or more before it's anything more than a novelty toy.

>>260158615
I'll drink to that

>>260158538
Ideally, that's the next step.
Physics and momentum in Unity.

>>260158262
I'm very amused that this janky ass prefab is the first time many of you are seeing any climbing mechanics. There have been much better climbing games out for years now. The climbing in VRchat is awful.

>>260158989
Not even going to read this paragraph of being wrong, there's not more vr startups since the market already has all the niches filled for headsets and everything else already got their funding and is in design/testing phases far from consumer ready. You really need to understand what venture investment is.

>>260158989
>AR technology on the other hand, has continued to prove that it has a real business case.
Normies don't want AR, less than they want VR.

>>260159239
You would think that now with the hardware developed and widely available we'd start to see all the investment shift to applications of said hardware. Instead it just vanished entirely. Where are the killer apps?
There's nothing worthwhile to invest in because there's nothing worthwhile to the broader public.

>>260157889
in capitalist society everything is driven by consumers being able to consuming
people can't buy hardware upgrades or vr headsets because they're too expensive
which means not enough people to make it worth making vr games so there's even less of an incentive to make the investment in the hardware
Microsoft needs to make it so their next xbox can plug a WMR headset straight into the back of it and be a decent vr gaming machine. NVidia and AMD need to make decent GPU's at the $200 price range that can handle vr gaming no problem.

>>260159232
well yeah, but the vrchat equivalents of everything is janky and awful. Vrchat needs to be the "hub" that lets you seamlessly boot into any multiplayer steamvr game and if it supports it bring your avatars across

but thats what it should be. In reality we'll be lucky to see even udon in the next twelve months.

>>260159669
The cost isn't the issue at all. If it had the value to justify it people would buy it at nearly any cost. Making it cheaper won't make people suddenly desire it more. For the vast majority it's a novelty that's going to sit and collect dust after the first few hours of playtime.
http://palmerluckey.com/free-isnt-cheap-enough/

>>260159541
>Where are the killer apps?
In development? Games take time to make, they already got their funding.

>>260160096
Basically this. How many years does it take to make a fully fleshed out game anyway? Just a regular pancake one without reusing an engine from the last eight or nine games in the series.

>>260159935
it is the issue
people won't make software for it because not enough people have it
not enough people have it because they can't justify the current cost for it
if you've talked to anyone in vrchat who wanted to get into vr the cost of the gpu was always the major factor in waiting to upgrade
for the vast majority of gamers today they don't have a gpu that would fully harness the graphics needed to enjoy vr experiences or they simply don't have a gaming computer period they have consoles, laptops, tablets and smartphones
most "hardcore" pc gamers are still playing decade to half a decade old fps,mobas and mmo's

>>260159935
>Making it cheaper won't make people suddenly desire it more.
They should pay me to play VR games.

>>260160096
How much time exactly is going to be needed? It's been 5 years now since this generation of VR has been around. Beatsaber is about the only thing that would currently qualify as having broad appeal and as a rhythm game that can only go so far. Even then it'll only ever see a fraction of what a game like guitar hero or rockband did.

Gundam movie 1 is starting!
Room: Bedroom Theater
Host: RedFlag
When: now!

>>260160407
Should have gotten on that high fidelity gravy train while it lasted.

pavlove?

>>260160851
9 hours and a half, my brudda of the faith

>>260160510
>It's been 5 years now since this generation of VR has been around.
3 since the peak of VC funding brainlet, most studios working on big projects like headline games for new console generations starts at least 2 years in advance to get used to the new hardware, specs and environment they have to make their games in and probably get a fuck load more help than vr devs are.
There was a number of good looking titles dappled in with the E3 VR presentation this year, especially that robot spy game.

>>260161743
Not to mention there isn't really any historical data to refer to and see what works or read trends from. Only recently have people started getting out of the idea that teleportation is the way to move in vr. If anything the warm up period of figuring out how to use vr has just ended and the big plans can start coming together.

>>260160510
VR came out in 2016 and it's 2019. You're pretty bad at math.

>>260148164
>>260149332

>all your online friends are in private worlds

>>260160339
Average dev cycle for big titles nowadays is 3-5 years, 2 if you cut it too close.

>>260163663
Start lewding with the others or play with yourself anon.

>>260160387
the GPU problem within VR space has been long solved by single pass forward rendering plus or minus a few tricks (occlusion culling does wonders), the CPU is the real bottleneck here and unfortunately until developers take notice, we won't have any great performing games unless programmers learn how to write multi-threaded code that spreads out the load as evenly as possible.

A GTX 970 still does well, but when you pair it with a shit CPU and you run into any games such as VRChat, you're going to have a bad time.
Unity is taking major steps to solve the performance problem within the "industry", you can see this being done with Unity 2019. However the development cost to upgrade is substantial to developers in time, as it takes a few months to learn how to actually utilize their new framework to build performant games.

Performance is key and one of the main pain points/problems with VR, I'm willing to go as far to say that if you can severely optimize your game, you can bring down that hardware barrier to entry lower than what was originally proposed.
the i5-4590/970 minimum, it could be lower than that. If you can play VR games on a god damn Snapdragon 835, why wouldn't you be able to on a modern day quad core CPU that you buy for $50-80 from AMD?

>>260164345
adding to this, we still don't have the equivalent of half-life 2 for VR to catch the attention of people.
I may be ignorant about this since everyone seems to be heavily VRChat focused, but there is a lack of good singleplayer games that set an example of gameplay fit for VR.
A lot of developers still take the safe approach which is designing a game concept for desktop play and then slapping VR support onto it.

>>260164912
And multiplayer removes the need for single player campaigns and a decent AI.
A half life game with CS would be a VR killer.

>>260164912
>but there is a lack of good singleplayer games that set an example of gameplay fit for VR. A lot of developers still take the safe approach which is designing a game concept for desktop play and then slapping VR support onto it.
because no one has any idea how to do it right yet. imo that's the biggest problem of VR right now, old ways of vidya-making are ineffective and devs have no idea how to pull off a pleasant singleplayer experience that's not a tech demo. i mean, personally i enjoy throwing boxes in vrchat so i'm easily amused, but mainstream probably expects something else

let's just hope valve delivers when they finally make their rumored vr vidya

>>260165587
I'm sure valve won't fuck up

>>260163663
>all your friends are dead

>>260165012
If you can tell a great story and also have a multiplayer aspect to your game, you've done well.
But will it sell well if it doesn't let you use your favorite anime model that you use in VRC?
Some of you got a taste of what VR climbing is in VRChat, but would you actually play a VR game dedicated to climbing with better gameplay with one catch that you're not an anime girl?
I'm assuming that's the dealbreaker today for a lot of people, not having custom playermodels.
Do people really want to self insert that hard into everything they will play in the future?
This wouldn't be the first time I've heard this from an anon here in /vrg/, refusing to play a VR game solely because you can't be your VRC persona.

>>260165587
I hope so too, there's probably a bigger picture as to why Valve invested money into the Index, they're probably tired of waiting for game developers to deliver a proper game, so they're taking the matter into their own hands, possibly as a way to "save" VR from falling into obscurity once again.
VR has been around for an extremely long time, probably since 1970s or earlier, has died and been reborn countless times.
I hope Valve delivers, and that they do it soon.

>>260165658
Rare picture of thumbstick not being stuck.

>>260165712
>Some of you got a taste of what VR climbing is in VRChat, but would you actually play a VR game dedicated to climbing with better gameplay with one catch that you're not an anime girl?
Yeah, it's called Climbey and it's dead. I like how everyone ignores it when saying "only games with workshop support will survive :^)".
>This wouldn't be the first time I've heard this from an anon here in /vrg/, refusing to play a VR game solely because you can't be your VRC persona.
Sounds like mental illness.

>>260165712
>Do people really want to self insert that hard into everything they will play in the future?
>This wouldn't be the first time I've heard this from an anon here in /vrg/, refusing to play a VR game solely because you can't be your VRC persona.
Oh yes this kemono friend/boat/gungirl is tots me!!! I carefully picked this avatar as my persona!!!! not because it was easiest to work with at the time. I won't play this game, and look like everyone else!!!!

>>260165789
>doesn't even know what the problem is

>>260165930
>Sounds like mental illness.
if you don't have a mental illness inside VRG, you're not part of the group

>>260165712
Thing i want from vr in the future, streamlined avatar support. Imagine openvr api that delivers fbt avatar with fingers and everything to your game (avatar that's set up globally in steamvr like keybindings), and then game devs only have to handle a dummy avatar for the game, not caring what's gonna be there, with some defaults because not everyone might want to use their own avatar. I'd say this identity(?) is kind of important aspect of vr, people greatly enjoy using their vrchat avatars in beat seiba and whatnot.

I mean, i don't mind being an ordinary operator in pavlov, but if i could be the same cute anime girl in every single game, i wouldn't think twice.

>>260166059
Enlighten me. Unload your hot insight right on my dirty face.

>>260166115
If it comes to that don't expect something other than Nintendo's Mii's or Xbox 360 Avatars.

>>260166038
people who won't play a game where they can't be their custom model are the ultimate tripfags

>>260165930
>Yeah, it's called Climbey and it's dead. I like how everyone ignores it when saying "only games with workshop support will survive :^)".
It's really unfortunate that it's dead.
>Sounds like mental illness.
Yeah maybe, but personally speaking I did get used to my body in VR being defined by a specific model that I converted for VRC.

>>260166115
There's going to be a VR SDK soon hopefully for Unity that allows basically anyone to plug and play FBT support into their game.
It's easy to do if you have a predefined set of avatars, but if you are aiming for general purpose use, it's a challenge to setup IK that works perfectly with any humanoid.
>I mean, i don't mind being an ordinary operator in pavlov, but if i could be the same cute anime girl in every single game, i wouldn't think twice.
The problem with being a "cute anime girl" in a VR FPS game is that if you have no identifier of teams, it's a clusterfuck and opens you up to friendly fire.
In real war you can tell who is your teammate by uniform/camo color, in this case, you would just get shot by accident :^)

>>260166113
The issue is that it may not make a tactile click in all directions. I only found out it affected my right controller because I read about it, then tested every direction outside of VR. I'd been using it for the wheel in Pavlov without any idea because the input still works.

>>260166310
Yeah, Valve dropped the ball on it hard. I don't think it works like that in 2019, because people will double down to protect their favourite company, but I'm really surprised Valve wanted to sign their name under a poor quality controller like that. Thumbsticks and triggers are about one of the most used gaming devices, to make both of them fragile and shitty was a bold move.

More on that discussion, mostly about performance, how many of you are actually enjoying VRChat?
I seem to hear people shit on it all the time but still keep going back to it as if it's some sort of MOBA game you just can't put down despite all the negatives.
I understand wanting to talk to your friends in VR, but it really seems like "we" don't do much else than that, or "we" don't play other VR games enough.

>>260166570
Asetto Corsa and Pavlov are both hosted on a schedule if you want to join, but 3/4 of /vrg/ aren't interested.

>>260166570
If you're not attending meet-ups, don't have a friend circle, VRChat is an asbolute shitshow full of desktoppers with earrape/malicious shaders and yelling at top of their lungs to their mics. Performance is shit, enjoyment is shit, I only come back to the game because there's literally nothing else and I sometimes want to play around in FBT or go solo world hopping because VRChat still has some of the nicest VR experiences and it's like a box of chocolate in that regard.
>but it really seems like "we" don't do much else than that, or "we" don't play other VR games enough.
which is a shame because we have the numbers to populate any dead VR game and we settle on playing what everyone else does.
VRC and Discord ruined everything

>>260166519
They skipped their usual ridiculous testing cycle because the Index would be thoroughly mediocre if they actually spent another two years on it. I'm pretty sure the controllers were on the backburner for a long time, so it's not like they actually got two years of testing either. More like a few months where they just spammed them to any random person who asked without any intention of actually testing.

>>260166570
>>260166828

The focus within this community seems to be nothing else but about socializing within VR.
Why don't we actually play VR games instead of getting depressed about drama within VRC?
When I got my headset, and I looked for a general, I found /vrg/, I thought I'm going to play a bunch of shitty VR games with random people, but it's rather the opposite, it's 24/7 sitting in discord or 24/7 socializing in VRChat with a few pavlov nights.
I'm quite tired of the monotonous sit in front of mirror and sadpost/lewd environment.
Don't take offense to this, but I think we should encourage anonymous hosting more often rather than focusing on /vrg/ events focused at making avatars and socializing.

>>260166763
I know, and I participate in them almost all the time, I'm willing to help host those games more often but I'm not the only person who needs to do this.

>>260166570
it's shit and i love it to death

>wanting to talk
it's not just that. it's pretty difficult to explain what's so good about vrc, but being able to express yourself with all of the vr capabilities really is something else. you can do all kinds of dumb shit, you can play dumb scenes with your friends and take photos, you can interact in weirdest ways. add universal disregard for social norms to the mix and you get the freedom of expression you've never had before.

>>260166828
We wouldn't have the numbers if it wasn't for vrchat in the first place, more than half of the people here only bought a headset after playing desktop vrchat.

>>260166865
Probably. Feels like something that could have been bundled with Vive instead of wands.
Fucking Occulus should have made SteamVR Touch variants.

>>260166115
My opinion is to build it the other way. Make an pavlov or competitive shooter with some koikatsu character creator, and make the model exportable for use in VRChat or other games.
Or release the avatar creator as a paid assset for other devs to put in their game. Essentially standarizing the avatar, materials rig etc between games.
The problem with clothes also dissapears since your game can force a certain cloth on your avatar.
The one who does that would have a monopoly on weebs.
Some standard boring operator can be added for those who are not weebs.

>>260166828
>VRC and Discord ruined everything
It was always the case. We didn't have a single lobby in anything until the middle of February.

>>260166886
>>260166886
>Why don't we actually play VR games instead of getting depressed about drama within VRC?
Because (You) don't matter. If you want to get others to play some games, you've got to put tremendous effort in shilling your SCHEDULED hobbies or get one of the popular, cool kids to play it. Which they won't.
Without orbiters you can only follow the trends.

>>260166925
Personally I didn't touch VRChat until I got a headset. If VRChat is what convinced you to get VR, you are probably one of those cyber anime trannies that will refuse to play anything else in the first place.

>>260166965
Ironically the headset has no significant problems, despite no public testing at all. The lenses reflect at obtuse angles is the worst anyone can find, which is inevitable without spending at least another $1000 on the lens array.

>>260166886
VRG is nothing more than self inserting tripfags
if you can't play as your waifu then be sure to get a 75% no vote on any VR game.
if you're not an outstanding VRG community member than nobody is gonna give a rat's ass about you in the discord.

>>260166570
I love vrchat, it's everything I want from an MMO: a brutal grind, a wide, technically challenging endgame and infinite dressup customization with lots of subtle degeneracy

I am not joking either.

>>260166925
I would say that's melancholic because VRChat is like an abusive relationship as from what I've gathered, it can both attract and push away people from VR given how good or bad it is at the same time.
It also gives people the wrong idea about VR performance, and the wrong impression of hardware required for VR.
You can have great hardware, in this case, headset + motion controls with roomscale tracking, but if you have a bad game, you're pushing away "customers" or you're really doing nothing else but just selling an idea/tech demo.

I can give examples to this, but just think about how many people bought an Index (I'm aware of the hardware issues) and refunded it because it was shit in VRC.

>>260167157
i've got headset long time ago, but it took me over a year to try vrchat. holy shit, i've been missing out on some good stuff

>>260167237
kys

>>260167237
Man I really wish this wasn't the case but yeah that's basically it. It's the perfect MMO.

>>260167157
VRChat is what convinced me to get a headset in 2017, but I ended up playing other things more.

>>260167157
bought the vive because of VRchat, but haven't touched VRchat in months, I don't have that autistic mental illness of "IF I CANT PLAY MY WAIFU I WONT PLAY THIS GAME!"

>>260167270
Yeah, VRC is one of those things you missed out on if you didn't try it in 2017/early 2018.

>>260167306
>>260167295
>>260167270
I mean, I'm sure I was also pumped seeing those early webms and videos from VRChat, but it was one of the many things.
Personally I think if someone is obsessed to the point of buying FBT and shit for VRChat without even touching other VR games, I think he's a blight on this community.

robo trannies or cyber trannies?

>>260167530
Better HabboVR trannies than Discord faggots that essentially never even use their headset.

>>260167665
Sure, but these groups are hand-in-hand.

>>260167531
Robo trannies use voice changers, the name comes from unnatural voice
Cyber trannies are people that turn into trannies the moment they have VR on. They might also use voice changers (to pass) or not, but they're heavily proteused nonetheless.

>>260167749
>everyone I don't like uses discord
400 people including yourself by the way

>>260167530
Buying trackers is something an enthusiast would do, VRC is not the only game to support extra 3 tracking points, there are a lot more games that do this, it's just that they're not popular/would be considered "cringe" here.
We really need a VR sandbox game that supports everything that VRC supports plus a few extras, when is something like that coming out?

tbfh I felt uncomfortable having to play as an anime girl just to fit in this community, it's rather strange how much we yell at trannies yet we roleplay a girls only school every day in VRC.
it's gay.

>>260167803
>including yourself
take your meds

>>260167959
prove it

>>260167803
I don't like the discord so I'm not in the discord.
shocker, i know

>>260167827
can you name some? I only know of a couple specialized mo-cap software and B&S, other games usually just use two, and it's rather cosmetic if anything.
>>260167950
then don't, some guys use male avatars, some use Halo avatars, I use a vidya avatar, and don't give a fuck.

>>260167827
the number of people who bought trackers and aren't vrchat users or devs/arcade owners can be counted on one hand

>>260168029
prove you took your meds.
>>260168058
there's no reasoning with the local retard

>>260168146
I only know what I've read in the threads, but I thought the "local retard" left your server and supposedly this community forever now? Why is he insisting that everyone is in the discord?

>>260168058
You’re in it.

>>260167950
>using anime girl to fit in this community
people are using all kinds of weird avatars around here. flying orbs, buff birds, i've seen adolf hitler just yesterday. grow a pair and start doing as you please, you sissy

>>260168061
problem is they're probably shit or they can be classified as game demos, there's a list from leddit, just google it, i'm not linking to it.
some just use trackers as guns or objects within the game, not really for body tracking.
there are two football games that use FBT, but they're singleplayer and "cringe", also nothing more than just a minigame.

>>260167950
You are on an anime website.

>all these posts claiming to speak for /vrg/
Use "I" instead of "we" you dumb fuck.

>>260168279
Local retard still shitposts both threads. He has nowhere else to go and nothing else to do.

>>260168291
you will not be treated as a peer if you aren't an anime girl. you'll be a funnyman or a weirdo to them

>>260168279
You really think a person that's treating Discord as his personal litter box would "leave" without having an alt? It's like expecting a major event in a soap-opera to actually weight on the show

>>260168348
It’s called the “royal we”. Get educated you dumb fuck.

>>260168292
oh well lol
>>260168479
more like royal wee
haha

>>260168405
this really is the sad truth in vrc.
I had a great friend who just always felt out of place because he didnt like using anime avatars.
things changed when found out he liked nanachis tho but thats another story (and still weeb)

>not referring to yourself as 'we' because your body and consciousness are separate entities

>>260168719
you're not a body though, you're just in one. you're not "we" when you're driving a car, you're not "we" when you control a lump of meat either

>>260168279
>left your server and supposedly this community forever now?
Good one. He'll be back next month and will be shitposting everytime he dies in Pavlov, and even if you aren't on the Discord, you'll hear all about it here! In this very thread!

>>260168793
>you're not "we" when you're driving a car
Tell that to your blind spot, falling asleep at the wheel, your reaction time, etc.

>>260168793
dilate

>>260168879
Sir, tell me, how many do you host?

>>260168826
Surely you've got enough evidence towards his nature that you'd stop letting him back in, for everyone's sake?

>>260169061
I remotely control my body from the consciousness plane.

>>260169215
And none of your pilots are separate entities by any chance?

>>260169252
No, I'm not crazy.

>>260169139
What? You actually think they don't secretely enjoy it? They wouldn't make a Discord channel if they didn't like drama, you know!

>>260169321
>you don't enjoy the pain of the local retard

>>260169356
it gets old, you know.

>>260169321
Kind of miss his constant tard fits. They were entertaining. His posts per hour was just ridiculous.

>>260169356
I would enjoy the pain of the inner circle more.

>>260169593
he was the staple of this community. It's only downhill without him.

>>260169606
The local retard is dead and with him dies your dreams of a popularity reset.

Smells like samefagging here

>>260169881
J is inside all of us.
He'll be back like Phoenix rising from the ashes.

>>260169941
then contribute to the thread mister new IP.

That fukken dragonball map was TALL but not as satisfying to climb compared to Climbing Carnival.
Too fucking monotonous cylinder into the sky. Glad that was over.
Looking forward to actually beating Climbing carnival when we get the extra time to actually do it oof.

ENCOURAGEMENT OF CLIMB SEA/AU
Resumes again 2 hours from this post!
See you there anons!

>>260170067
Sorry for not posting while I was asleep :^)

>>260170929
Had any nice dreams?

>>260166570
VRchat is where I can live in the database my friend. With like minded individuals that would play other VR games outside VRchat with me. The social Hub element really increases the likelihood you find people that would want to play other VRgames with.

Beat Saber rankings from the past few months are completely fucked. It's like everything is 100 pp lower than it should be.

>>260167237
Fucking based. VRchat is the MMO we need and deserve.

>>260173291
it isn't an mmo though, it's an asset loader for 16 people at max before it shits itself.
stop calling it an mmo because it loads assets from the "cloud".

>>260167950
>it's rather strange how much we yell at trannies yet we roleplay a girls only school
>we
>we
Yes, it's almost as if a thread consists out of posts from people who aren't monolithically a stereotype, but each an individuum with individual opinions.
And it's almost as if it's only a vocal minority of individua that even gives a fuck about "hurrdurr trannies are the root cause of EverythingBadEver™ and they probably ate my dog as well".

>>260168083
Maybe there's some Beat Saber players who bought trackers for Beat Saber, too. Then again, they bought it for the same reason as VRC players, seeing your avatar move in full body goodness.

>>260174109
Define "MMO".

>>260174792
Is second life an MMO?

>>260174931
Depends on your definition. Define "MMO".

>>260174931
MMO = Massively-Multiplayer-Online
So I guess?

>>260174981
>>260175005
>In many ways, Second Life is similar to massively multiplayer online role-playing games; however, Linden Lab is emphatic that their creation is not a game: "There is no manufactured conflict, no set objective".
VRChat is the same, it is similar, but it's not one.
It simply gives you access to tools that Unity provides you, in essence, it's an assetbundle loader with multiplayer VR features.

Climbing carnival...

>define mmo

>>260175161

>>260174931
Yes,
But it's not a MMO Rpg.

>>260175270

>>260175285
An MMO implies it's massively multiplayer, that implication means you have hundreds of people on screen or in an instance, VRChat is not massively multiplayer, if you consider VRC to be an MMO, then any other game with fake seamless loading would be considered one by you.
VRC does not have hundreds of players on the same server, does not have persistent worlds.

>>260175238
Arguing over semantics unrightfully has a bad reputation. It is incredibly important in order to have any kind of meaningful discussion, lest you want the interlocutors to talk past each other because there's no common ground.

I hate VRChat

>>260175539
crashed ;)

>>260175641
judging by the fingernails, rightfully so

>>260175671

>>260170236
TIME FOR CLIMBING! GET ON! GOGOGOGOGOGO!

>>260175671
Hot...

>>260175826

>>260175926
Base camp 1 at 1300m

>>260175671
>>260175826
>tfw you suddenly realize what you've done

>>260176038
First anon to jump off shortly after base camp 1

>>260176150

>>260176252
Base camp 2, 3200m
we spent a long while here, comfiest place on the mountain

>>260172598
Guess the real Beat Saber were the friends we made along the way.

>>260176370

>>260175539
>those nails
you also hate the body you were born with, right?

>>260176472

>>260176592

>>260176252
dear lord, i am glad i never looked down

>>260176698
The "top" at 6000m

>>260176478
I love my body.
>>260175672
I think they're cute.

>>260176793

>>260176906

>>260177004
The actual top at 9001m

>>260177124

>>260177124

>>260177124
i am glad you guys made it. sorry for being a noob and falling down at the horizontal part twice, before the final edge...

>>260177405

>>260177749
fin
https://streamable.com/715lz

>>260177749
oh no....

Now when does the kiu fall next

>>260165930
I was actually playing Climbey the other day for the first time, I really like the tutorial not he was charming and if you blew past the instructions he would just fast forward to whatever you were at and I thought that was neat.
Damn shame its dead. I was hoping to do some customs with others :'(

Hello, this is elf avatar user. Why is no one a dwarf in this game? I want to argue with a ptsd rugged dwarf that lost his clan to orcs. Bicker over the best way to set up camp, act like we hate one another and then constantly save one another in the hate of battle. Where my dwarfu at?

>>260182939
Gay.

>>260182939
unironically cause i'm too brainlet to make one

>>260179796
https://steamcharts.com/app/520010
it's just about as dead as any other VR game, if vrg picks it up, y'all can make custom maps.

>>260184107
>>260179796
I had no idea it was multiplayer.

>>260184230
if you consider how 82 was its peak player base, then the daily 55 means that it's not dead, this community can revive it if some of us get the game.
making custom maps for it should be easy, i'm not sure but it should have an in-game editor.

>>260179796
I hate how Climbey just used the default unity skybox in the maps. Made the climbing feel very monotonic.

>>260184727
you can change the skybox

>>260182939
>Why is there no one who wants to be an ugly manlet for me?
>I still get to be a cute girl of course

>>260184786
>not making the 'dwarf' a cute oppai loli

>>260184727
..\Steam\steamapps\common\Climbey\Skyboxes\
then select it ingame

>>260184786
>not wanting to be the chad dorf
fag

>>260184870
That's more like it

>>260184772
>>260184901
I guess i'm just a brainlet then. Still would be great if it was set to a better default

>>260167007
Having a standard for VR avatars that all VR games adhere to is one of the things that needs to happen

>>260186702
Hopefully one day it will be as obvious as your Steam profile picture showing in games.

one year ago i figured out how to use the camera

i wanna get off the ride

>>260187253
gay normie drunk american boothcat npc

>>260187253
easy lay

>>260182939
dwarves should not be subjected to this game

>>260186702
It's going to have to be strict and feature methods for developers to further restrict avatars to get them on board. Ideally it would even come with a shader or material that needs to be applied to parts of an avatar so that it can inherit team color in games that require it. That wouldn't prevent people from making avatars with the team colors hidden or barely visible though so a more complex means of verifying avatars would be needed.

>>260185070
if people wanted to be chads here they would hit the gym instead of shaving their legs.

>tfw VR made you switch sides
bruh I'm legit left-handed now what the fuck is happening.

Why is my hip tracker still somewhat retarded, even on Index?

>>260188441
having defined neck and head would work for many of the cases where you need team color as the game could just plaster the head on a spacesuit or something

>>260177405
LMAO rip JazKaz

>>260188985
don't worry, it's normal, vr turned me into a switch as well

maybe you were ambidex to begin with. supposedly, some people don't realize it

>>260189093
haha lmfao rofl pmsl :P

>>260186702
Games have their own artstyles, how would that even work?
The best you can expect is something like Mii's, Facebook's probably gonna push for using your real face for your avatar. If you expect they'd allow user published content you're way too optimistic. It's the best way to squeeze out some extra money on cosmetics.

>>260189129
>>260188985
Ambidextrous people are usually left handed raised as right handed without anyone realizing.

>>260188997
VRChat has some weird way of tracking that one. when I spin I often find my hip stuck in place while everything else is not. Maybe it's occluded more often with your hands?

>>260189698
It's placed on the front to the side. It has a habit of sinking into my body and only returning to position if I repeatedly turn around.

You know what VRFPS games need? An option to set some or all weapons to mirrored models.
It would be pretty cool if they stayed like this too, so some righty faggot would have to adapt to using left-handed bolt actions and know the pain.

>>260190083
You pull the bolt with your right hand if you're left handed. Modern bolt actions sometimes put the bolt on the left for right handed shooters.

>>260190484
that's what I do, but it's not as fast.

>>260189797
>>260189698
>>260188997
My hip tracking improved vastly when i got this gopro swivel thingy and replaced the simple washer + 1/4" screw. The hip tracker now sticks much more out of my body and hardly ever loses tracking. The swivel also allows me to adjust the hip when sitting or lying down to mitigate with the viewball sinking issue in VRChat.

I also moved my base stations on the wall facing my couch to improve tracking while sitting and lounging or simply playing games that have a main direction instead of free turning. This improves tracking in most of the room while creating a small dead zone when facing away from base stations.


ebay com/itm/221792925701?ViewItem=&item=221792925701

>>260191054
I think I'll give this set-up a go, thanks Anon.

Do you guys have any suggestions for a face foam replacement for the original Vive?
The one it comes with becomes god awful uncomfortable after an hour of beat saber
Are the VRCover ones from Amazon good?

>>260185073
Cute female dwarves are also acceptable. Go for young aspiring blacksmith looking to explore dangerous trenches of the underdark in search of rare ore.

>>260190484
>You pull the bolt with your right hand if you're left handed
I prefer doing this even being right handed

>>260192545
I use VRCover and yeah they're pretty good and comfy. After around 5-6 months of usage the thing splits where the 2 side of it are held together and the foam from inside of it comes out.

>>260192545
I just grabbed some "KIKI design 12mm" face cushion thing from amazon because the pimax one is way too thin to be comfortable
18mm is probably fine too, comfort is too important

>>260192545
I got the two-pack VRCover eco-leather ones. They're alright and pretty comfy. Used one for a year and it looks brand new, but I never washed it yet. I play more or less every other day.

>>260166570
I stopped enjoying it for about 9 months but I'm having a secondwind with it recently.

No Pavlov today, JazKaz is gone away
The AK12 stands forlorn a symbol of the dawn

No Pavlov today it seems a common sight
But operatorfus passing by don't know the reason why
How could they know just what this message means
The end of all my hopes the end of all my dreams
How could they know a palace there had been
Behind the door where my JazKaz reigned as queen

>>260194231
I'm playing today since a anon insisted

It's either Tuesday, Thursday or Sunday!
EU Pavlov Shootymans in 15 Minutes!
Join the community server: "Join sparkly server for free VAC ban."

Secret handshake is headpats!
Seriously without room passwords it's how we tell you're from vrg

There's a boothcat perched outside my window
I hear him calling
I hear him sing
He burns me with his tattoos of neon to embers
He sees all my sins
He reads my soul

One day that cat, he spoke to me
Like Martin Luther
Like Pericles

Come join the discord
Come fly with pink
We'll give you freedom
From the goblin trap
Come join the discord
Soar on my wings
You'll touch the hand of mommy
And He'll make you king
And He'll make you king

Thoughts on Boneworks?
Potential Half-Life of VR or forever Garrys mod VR Tech demo?

>>260194397
Also friends please no panic if no announcement
Means announcy person is taken by evil wageslavers! Server still magically be good!
Make good play!

>>260194595
If we're really honest it's probably the latter.

>>260194595
>Garrys mod VR Tech demo?
I fucking wish. If it doesn't come with modding tools/SDK they can keep it.

>>260166570
I take breaks here and there and when I do play I bounce around pubs and meetups. the people definitely sell it for me. I like hanging out with ya'll and meeting new people is fun. stuff I dont experience outside of videogames very often because lolnofriends. I'm not a sweaty gamer by any means so I dont really require the competitiveness of 'real' mmos.

>>260194529
>tfw no vrchat gang

No this is not my instance
I'm hosting it for friends+
And no I don't sing
I've been mute for so long
Up here in the air
I'm just mumbling at the clouds
Wanting to be known
While I pass the lonely hours
I came down from the room
I saw you in the rain
Laughing with some people
Hair dripping down your face
Your calm hypnotic eyes
Your Scandinavian glow
I felt them like a flame
Candle in my cold bones
Tonight you were my muse
As I belted and I strummed
Trying not to drown
In the helicopter drone
Synti...

>>260194872
Sons of Anarchy event when

>>260194595
Something to try in the neverending wait for vr to not be a meme

Why should I rejoin VR chat when I feel it's just people incessantly self-indulging? Maybe it's me but the whole social aspect of the game just feels fake... But the allure of making friends online tempts me.

t. guy who played about a year ago (around the time ugandan knuckles was phasing out).

Going to watch Koe no Katachi (A Silent Voice) this Friday in VRChat at EU hours, probably about 6pm UTC

Miti stars in a Sony commercial.

>>260195636
Me on the far left or far right, haven't decided yet

>>260195636
me on the far left

>>260194595
they have confirmed they don't intend to be a game, it's more of a showcase what their system is capable of, it's also the reason why they were added to the valve masterlist because future valve vr games will most likely be using their foundation

>>260197021
1. boneworks isn't made by valve
2. boneworks is a game

>>260197357
read my post again and go read their dev forums retard

>>260195636
me towards the end of the movie but never waking up

>>260195636
I'm not watching something with a manlet in it
Mineta was GROSS enough

>>260195636
Damn euros making it difficult to watch stuff with them.

post the best (lewd) VR webms that I can show my normie friends

comfy

>>260200216
Ask in /vrlg/

>>260200216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7wwqUA4QZs&list=PLB8AMbB5I4PfHph_GFRgQnzbk2O-KWZLA

>>260166570
before vrg I bounced around a bunch of different social vr things and never quite clicked. i've always really liked the social aspect of basically any game-- things like MMOs were veiled social interaction engines with some game mechanics. any time i've played MMOs or any multiplayer game, the game got boring as hell once i didn't know anyone and social interaction died out.
vrchat boils down what i care about in online games to the base elements i enjoy most (social interaction) and adds in complete customizability that you really can't find anywhere else. as much as i bitch about things with it i wouldn't go anywhere else

>>260201829
>any time i've played MMOs or any multiplayer game, the game got boring as hell once i didn't know anyone and social interaction died out.
This is also my problem. When multiplayer games become queues rather than a community I bounce. Unfortunately it seems like more and more new multiplayer games are starting in the queue stage so I don't even bother with them.

>>260200216

Anyone get Tetris Effect yet? Isn't that out today?

>>260206070
Is it? I can't find it on Steam...

Oh hey it is out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P-M-WkwZZ8

>>260206243
Funny guy.

>>260206304
*carl is online*
*carl has invited you to play Striking Vipers X*

>>260206643
Hey I'd do it. Not the bear though

>>260197021
>valve masterlist
What is this?
Did Valve buy the boneworks character framework?
Did they get it for free?
Can I use it or is it SL0/Valve exclusive?

>>260201829
sansar seems to be picking up but without all the 13 year olds

I just can’t deal with the tards on vrchat anymore

I'd be happier if I wasn't constantly buying replacement piece of kit since it keeps fucking breaking for no reason

>>260210469
I've owned a second hand vive for over a year and never broken anything. One of the touchpads is going a bit dodgy but that's it. I've only smashed it against my desk twice but that was the other controller.
This post brought to you by the careful gang.

>>260210843
I haven't bashed anything, it just dies

>>260209820
meh, find a circle of friends and hang out with them. if you're bored (or nobody is on) bounce around worlds a bit and find people to chat with. if people are stupid just block them. i don't really have this issue.

>>260206304
Price is kind of ridiculous for a Tetris game, I'll wait until it's pirated.

I miss him, thanks for ruining a friend. Maybe I'll dip too.

>>260210469
I never really had any issues, but then I bought Index Controllers.

>>260212464
Price isn't even the issue. I would pay $60 if it wasn't on the Epic Game store.

>>260211993
It can be pretty hit and miss but I've found outside of peak times is best for exploring publics. Week days late at night have the most interesting people.

>>260212485
Good, leave.

>>260212485
Dont give up, even now we are preparing for the next phase of Operation Equalizer

You can rendezvous with us by the use of the codename: David Duke

If anyone wants the current Pavlov server config file+99dmg deagle headshot here it is
https://mega.nz/#!KrgAFaqQ!xF3Kr4hJLHiZdH_x9s4ihUtkWvbjZ5Du6pJOvn3TpHI
change HelmetBleed on the deagle back to 100 if you want a normal copy toy with and local host if you like, but otherwise the only way to get this ingame is to bug either of the two server owners to get them to give it a shot

>>260213418
what is with this meme that deagle one shot is too op but AK and g3 one shot is just fine

if you look at EU server, deagle AK and a bit of G3 is the whole meta

>>260213418
>99 damage headshot
That's next level retarded

>>>/s4s/8006019

>>260213803
Almost every gun is used on EU.

>>260213803
cost
800$ vs 2500$, or 3600/4200$ for one shot headshot- g3 is way out of meta vs regular rifles, its just fun and still works alright
>>260213845
no ammo downtime vs comparable gun
recoil control is fairly easy for all but novices
instant kill+fairly serviceable general ttk if you choke, with low cost is massive reward with extraordinarily low risk for anyone who can aim
it's basically a skill cannon with a low skill requirement that is also an eco gun that's also a primary weapon

>>260214108
Okay yeah I'm leaving too goodbye.

>>260213803
>$800 one shot kill with attachments and semi only
>$2500 one shot kill with full auto but shit sights and no attachments that matter
>$???? (I never use it) one shot kill with attachments semi only
muh balance.
I can't land headshots anyway.

>>260213803
gotta agree, even without holo, AK is basically the best gun for every possible scenario.
>index controllers now stop my full-auto for no reason every now and then.
Lads I can't even describe how much I despise Valve at this point. They know exactly what I want, and then they shove shit in my face, and they've been doing that since 2008. I wish they would fucking go under. They can keep my shitty fucking Steam games, I don't care anymore. GOD FUCKING DAMN IT.

>>260214183
i'm not gonna do anything, i'm just putting it there for someone else to go put on the big boy pants and try and get it tested
better people actually do something then sit and bitch with the excuse of not actually having the config

>>260214248
G3 is 3 shot kill semi only for 4200 base game/original modded config, 3600 current modded config
>>260214258
pull the trigger harder dummy

Someone is just very butthurt that Phos kills them a bunch. Guess what, first hes just good with it, second hes the server owner and therefore will always have the lowest ping which is tremendously helpful (very low or very high ping is most ideal), and thirdly he will just obliterate you with a different gun that is explicitly better than the deagle

>>260214416
The trigger shouldn't fire at all unless he's clicked it.

What do silencers even do in pavlov anyway? Sure it's quieter but you can still hear them from ages away. I think it might get rid of tracers too but not sure. Is it really just added cost to decrease your kill reward?

>>260214475
The issue is $800. I find Miimoo worse to face because he seems partially immune to damage.

>>260214596
Removing the muzzle flash is the advantage because you can see better when firing and enemies can't see you as easily. Tracers are a trade off because it makes it harder to aim, but also reduces your visibility. Negative kill reward is the disadvantage. I find it's generally not worth using it.

>>260214475
he doesn't host it locally and i rarely even play with him personally
of the 9 votes yesterday more then half were in favor, so clearly at least a few people dislike how strong it is
i just think its too good because >>260214108

>>260214596
It decreases kill reward? That's completely retarded, guess I'm not using them outside of the final round anymore.

>>260214416
yeah, so it fucking cracks like for some of those retards on reddit.
It's fully pressed. It just stops sometimes, I have to let go of it and press it again. I dunno if it's yet another instance of cap. sensors freaking out when my hands get sweaty, or is it a Pavlov thing. I'm never sure if my mic is working either in this fucking game. I feel like I'm getting fucked in the ass for desperately trying to enjoy VR. I hate these fucking controllers so God damn much, I already had to adapt to thumbsticks being fucky, to thumbpad being fucky, now I'll have to adapt to fucking triggers sometimes working and sometimes not.
>>260214475
Phos might legit be the best we have on EU, though he's struggling a bit more lately, there was a time he was simply untouchable, I'd suspect hax if I didn't know better.
>>260214646
Yeah, I try to play for fun, but whenever I warm-up against bots and THEN play on the server I'm beyond pissed. With bots/publics it's like I have aim assist sometimes, face with those 100+ pings it's like I'm shooting blanks every now and then.

>>260214596
I just love the sound it makes. Specially with the m4

>>260214596
if you intend to shoot through smoke nades, you've got an advantage of seeing their gunfire, and them not seeing yours. Makes guns easier to aim to.

>>260215079
>there was a time he was simply untouchable
I think it's because everyone side strafes now.

>>260215071
Silencer is good for trace removal and sometimes for the lower volume. Spamming through smokes and some maps like Mirage A site are much safer when the enemy doesn't see your tracers.

>>260214646
issue with dmg immunity is the lagging hitboxs as anon stated in last thread which of course is confounded by the amount of side strafing that people do
not really anything we can do about it
i just hope more people dont start abusing it (other than the 2 that do so now)

Anyone else play Blade and Sorcery? I've been modding the shit out of it, the discord for it is shockingly good. No tranny mods either, called someone a faggot twink and didn't get shit for it. There are at least 10 new mods posted daily, great base game too

>>260215280
I sidestrafed then, too. I didn't get better, that's for sure. Either I find it easier to aim with Index Controllers or there's something in the air.

>>260215207
>Makes guns easier to aim to.
Because of the longer barrel or does it actually reduce recoil.

im sorry but youre never gonna be competitive if you only see and hear the enemy, you gotta smell them too

>>260215280
>>260215378
wait, what's the difference between just strafing and side strafing?

Alright anons, you know what time it is, it is time for some shop! After some intense haggling and talking, and debating, work schedule might be cleared up for at least one day on the weekend. Game hosting will move forward as long as said discussions are not forgotten in two seconds, but that has never happened with an employer ever right? Going to get some polling going or figure out what anons would like to play right about now. An anon recently bought a VPS so that might be usable for some games. The idea of lessons was mulled over lightly again, but anons are just so low energy thanks to the heatwave that everyone appears to just want to work, listen to music, and have some discussion on the side. Going to stick to that until we have more adjusted to the summer heat, might try and push through it anyway.

DM Dal if you have an interest in cooperation, understand individual strength, and juggle individual strength with cooperation.

>side strafing
is this when you move in your vr space in the same direction as in game to get a speed advantage?

>>260215629
Side strafing is moving randomly left and right so they can't lead the shots.

>>260215629
it means you move specifically perpendicular to the enemy
It means that on the shooters screen you are moving the most pixels per second possible, which makes you harder to hit
When your hitbox is lagging, it means that when someone shoots you most naturally (which is either slightly in front of or on the person in the direction they are moving), they will miss even more often due the hitbox being the farthest point away from the model on the shooters screen.

>>260215765
Cracks me up every time I see it. They never move far enough either direction so you can just shoot in the middle and get hits every time.

>>260215951
It defeats the hard to use headshot machine pretty well though.

>>260213803
>>260214258
AKM is a overall redundant rifle because it has far worst ergonomics compared to AK12 and M4. You can't bodyshot with it because of the RPM compared to M4 and AK12. So you lose in bodyshot firefights, and if you aren't proficient at landing headshots very well you're going to basically hardcountered because of your RPM. It's main usefulness is being a overly expensive deagle and a eco rifle for when you can't afford a M4 or AK12. Beside from that it's a good gun for semi auto at any range. But if any one person is good with the AKM then more power to them.

I'm noticing a lot more people are adopting the AK12 in lobbies, which is a good thing overall.

>>260213803
There's only one real person who use the G3. Same with Deagle but maybe more than one. AKM users aren't as much of a common sight.

>>260216324
A few used the G3 today. I don't know if they liked it though.

>>260217241
Don't forget to remove the 30 GB cache.

>>260217241
goodbye

>>260217531
see ya in a few weeks local retard

>>260217606
keep being addicted to low framerate, local retard
i've been off vrc for months now.

>>260217664
You'll be back.
You're an attention whore.

>>260215589
longer barrel. I don't know about recoil.
>>260206070
I got it, beat one out of seven (I guess) areas in Journey mode, there's some more things to unlock.
So far not really impressed with the visuals I'll play around with particle sizes and double check if everything's on highest setting, it's mostly sitting in the dark while some gay whales and other shit blows up in your face, it's kind of meh. Maybe it's one of those games that will blow my mind once Valve bothers to take my fucking money for their shitty headset. Gameplay's okay, it's Tetris, it's hard to fuck up - there's some Zone mechanic I'm not sure how it works yet, but it doesn't seem to be reinventing the wheel.

>>260217664
>tfw get 72 FPS in crowded rooms on Index

>>260217664
are you one of the naive goons buying into June's nothingware?

>>260217753
nope, my reason for deleting said platform is because I refuse to put up with shit developers.
I'd be rather playing actual VR games with gameplay rather than sit in front of a mirror listening to drunken retards rambling about their depressed life and then complain about how trannies are ruining everything for them in the "discord".
>>260217826
that's still not 90.

>>260215071
If you ever get low eco in Dave's autism economy, you're doing something seriously wrong
Kills aren't even 1/2 of your payout vs a win with rifles unless you're solo wiping most of the team

>>260218001
Index can do 144 FPS, but it's difficult to achieve in most games. It has the advantage of half the refresh rate being 72 instead of 45. Even with motion smoothing and reprojection off, it seems to prefer 72 FPS over other values.

How's piracy for Vr?
Im geting a oculus s can it get bricked or something for pirating?

>>260218001
>>260218001
>I'd be rather playing actual VR games with gameplay
Anon.. I...

>>260218374
Normal for Steam, shit for Oculus

>>260218035
SMG attachments are an eco trap. Putting them all on reduces the reward to 100 on SMGs.

>>260218374
It's not a console, you're not modding the hardware. If you can find a game that runs pirated then there you go.

>>260218652
They do work like a pseudo console, which is something I didn't understand before I bought my Rift in 2017. I thought it would work as a set of input/output devices instead of through software alone.

>>260215413
I just went to play it again after a couple months and found the one mod I wanted to try isn't updated for the newest version
made me sad

>>260218572
Yeah but they look cool
Win the round and get 3400 anyway
Win bonus is 3400, loss is 1500->3000->4500->4500 cont, if I remember right, but don't quote me on that, he might have changed it
basically just play game lol, any gun save shotguns and kar won't pay you jack without you getting a crazy round

>>260219112
Which mod? Also there was an update and you have to use the Vortex modloader, you can download it from the Nexus website. Sets itself up really quickly, and sometimes you can manually install old mods into the loader and make them work regardless of if they're updated

>>260218652
Didn't a bunch of cv1's get bricked because of a faulty firmware update

>>260217964

>>260219674
oh yeah, forgot Occulus operates on a different level.

>>260219769
Until you show something, you have nothing

>>260218520
The headsets or games?

>>260219621
The Witcher Swords one

>>260215413
>>260219621
Not him but halberd never got updated since modder yeeted out of the community for good and virtuous treaty katana never got updated eithrr

>>260220189
The witcher swords files are still up, you can probably manually install them. I got a Halo energy sword mod from like a year ago and it worked just fine, might as well give it a shot
>>260220207
Same case with the Virtuous Katana, file's still up and a manual install just might work. Never heard about the Halberd though, what happened with that?

>>260219674
The certificate issue? That was just the software which worked again after an update.

>>260219774
I'm pretty sure actual bricking through firmware never happened. The certificate issue was rectified in a single day and they gave everyone who was affected store credit so it's fair.

>>260213418
>>260214108
>>260215061
Namedrop yourself so i know who is a genuine retard.
Youre starting to convince me we should be on dave balance and stay on dave balance

>>260220839
>tfw couldn't spend store credit and when I contacted support they told me to open a new bank account

>>260219843

>>260220928
Worked on my machine...

>>260218862
>>260218652
The rundown is that input/output standards hadn't existed yet so the vendors (Valve/HTC and Oculus) developed their own software stacks that work best for their hardware. Three years later, they have already partnered up and are creating a standard called OpenXR which will be out within a year or two. In the meantime, others have hacked together software to make games that are incompatible with other headsets compatible, although it can be buggy or an imperfect experience sometimes. Look up "Revive".

>>260221310
Also worth mentioning there is "OpenComposite" which is like Revive but other way around so you can play SteamVR games with the Rift but without SteamVR's software.

Stop pirating games. If you don't even have the money to spend on games you shouldn't be getting into VR at this early stage, unless you know you absolutely want it or just want it for VRChat.

>>260221629
Most of the ones who ask are the wmr people anyway

>>260221629
https://youtu.be/QNzIKoAy2pk?t=274

>>260220909
>he doesn't know
kind of impressive

>>260223362
t. Paxx

>>260223418
t. Smelly

>>260223463
Wrong but pls don't funpost the thread, ok?

This is my virtamate wife

>>260223985
her skin is so disgusting
bleurgh

>>260223985
This game is interesting, but it's 3DPD and what's the point in setting up scenes for hours when you can just lewd a real person in VRC?

>>260224325
I enjoy lewding in vrc more than jacking it to porn. Hentai is often really fucking bad outside of stills and 3d is actually disgusting outside of really innocent amateur stuff.

>>260224325
real people have 3dpd souls

>>260224587
Only normalfags.

Anybody have experience with prescription lenses? Which site is good/cheap/etc?

Dead medium no games I want my money back Zuck

>>260225913
I had WidmoVR for Rift. They were a pretty bad design because they slotted into the face guard instead of onto the lenses directly like all the other headsets. They were way more convenient than glasses and hard higher image quality due to not being squashed at an angle. I'm currently waiting for Index lenses from the same company but they've been in transit for a week now with no information of where they are. €9 postage too. Ridiculous.

>>260226373
that's not how that meme works

how’s my model look?

>>260226896
cute edge but the shirt needs to chill out

>>260226896
rawr x3 nuzzles u owo
You look like every other goth tda anime boy

>>260226896
At least it's a boy

>>260226373
it's better than
>never talks to you in game
>avoids you when you try to start a conversation in game
>acts rude to you in game
>constantly sends unsolicited discord dm's and says/sends lewd, suggestive, flirty messages to you in discord
>keeps it up for months and then suddenly stops after getting bored of you
If you read this and you think i'm talking about you specifically i'm not, at least 4 people from vrg have done this, fuck discord, you're not cute, you're not an anime picture, you're not an :owo: emote.
Talk to me in game with your real voice you fucking pathetic animals.

>>260230086
>constantly sends unsolicited discord dm's and says/sends lewd, suggestive, flirty messages to you in discord
I've been avoiding talking to a friend because I feel like they don't really wanna talk to me except during the odd occasion when they're also in the mood when I am. Like, it's hard to keep a conversation going with them at all, and I only really feel like we've got anything going on when it's related to lewd shit. Feels bad

>>260209820
ex-second life players are an order of magnitude worse than 13 year olds

was dave right?

>>260231607
dave is just mad because he has his own hacks

>>260231607
Literal autismdev.

>>260231607
Tbh, no matter what devs do, determined cheaters will find a way to cheat. However, his response is very unprofessional and makes me think he's not fit to be a developer and should probably take some time off. Might do him some good in the long run.

How can I sound like a female in vrchat?

>>260234565
why would you want to?

>>260233934
He should really just sell the game to another developer.

>>260234565
cute sounding boys with exotic accents > sounding like a real gamer girl
this goes for attracting other boys and other girls
why would you ever want to sound like an actual girl unless you're trying to catfish straight incels?

>>260234565
Voice changer and/or voice training. Naturally adopting a more feminine way of speaking seems to be a side effect of playing VRChat a lot anyway; some people's voices have changed significantly over time.

>>260234932
>some people's voices have changed significantly over time

hintdrop

>>260223985
uncanny valley af

>>260231607
only if he does a backflip out his window

>>260234610
My avatar is a female so I want a female voice to match with it

>inb4 "female avatars with Male voices are hot"
I dont care

>>260154621
Time for some Assetto Corsa. Here's a partial Irohazaka run in the Evo.
https://streamable.com/qh7t6

>>260235581
If you don't intend to roleplay as your avatar there's no reason to (attempt to) match a female voice to it. People are talking to you, not your waifu.

>>260235878
>tfw love the streamablese you post every time
>bought the game to play too
>too stupid to set up the virtual steering wheel
just end me

>>260236761
Here's a base config for Oculus touch that someone posted a while ago, hopefully that'll help a little.
https://pastebin.com/wtDLp3dg
Also a link to the wheel in case you lost it.
https://github.com/mdovgialo/steam-vr-wheel

Is there any way to communicate with flatscreeners when playing Payday 2?

>>260234565
talk about your otp

I just want to kill the demons

>>260139978 (OP)
Unsolicited
S E L F I E P O S T I N G

>>260153545
K-On Movie is starting in ~15-20 minutes. You can join off Silencen or anyone in Silent Theater if you're interested.

>>260239326
unsolicited selfieposting you say?

>>260239694

>>260239694
how dare you look down on me you bitch

>>260231607
dead game. Move on
Pavlov has always been shit and has always had a dev that's as bad as a vrc dev. I don't know what people were expecting.

>pavlov
>dead game
>move on when every single other vrfps mp game is 20 feet under

CONTRACTORS WHEN?!

>>260242050
>hasn't realized vr is still a meme
stick to flat shit.
Mark my words, vr will shift completely to mobile shovelware in the next 2 years.

do u ever wish u had an Omotea gf?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDJ4Y4zIng8

>>260243253
doing this shit is avatarfagging of the highest order, especially when you tilt the camera off like that
you can't see the game correctly at angles, not to mention it's completely pointless unless you plan on recording yourself dancing, which is fucking gay and can be done without the game part
goddamn casuals

>>260243253
Omotea makes me wish kinect fbt worked with oculus software. So much regret spending free zuccbuccks on Oculus and not just buying it on Steam

>>260243674
Hey pal, I think you've got the wrong thread, the /xivg/'s two pages down.

>>260239694
nice chin lmfao

>>260243557
only spend zuckbucks on exclusives

>>260239326
very nice my reddit friend, you have my up vote.

>>260243780
Fuck you

Fuck /xivg/ niggers

>>260245018
the imminent death of this shithole tickles me.

>>260245141
t. locally retarded

>>260245334
try again fag

>>260245141
>imminent
People who say this are a staple for thriving threads, though

>>260245540
t. Jelly

>>260245141
coming from a shartbringer OMEGALUL

>>260245749
did actually type that.. when did vrg become soo reddit infused.

>>260245979
>hen did vrg become soo reddit infused
welcome to /vg/, you must be new. We have been reddit since our creation as a containment board for faggots and reddit boys

>>260246265
It's like people actually forget that this board is a containment board. Why do you think fags like the retard get banned immediately whenever they escape /vg/, even if it's a board like /trash/?

>>260245979
did actually type that...

>>260246265
unironically only difference between subreddits and generals is we seem to have a much higher tolerance for parroting teenagers and shitposting

>>260235878
I want to race but im stuck being a wagie in australia.

>>260246456
It's a containment board for video game discussion, which isn't allowed on /v/ - Shitposting.

>>260226896
would lewd/10

>>260248156
Generals are cancer, especially ones kept alive for as long as these are. The longer one goes on, the worse it gets.

>>260248196
I know generals that exist since longer than /vrg/ or most threads on /vg/, and they aren't as shit. It's just /vg/ being a shit board

>>260245650
He's gone and you still can't shut the fuck up.

What do peeps do in "Lets have H" me wonder.

>>260250038
Have you considered asking them what they do in there?

>>260250734
>someone is in Let's Have H
>wonder what they're doing
>do this

>>260249709
>He's gone
>He doesn't know

>>260249709
see you during Operation Equalizer, brother

>>260226896
like my life.
Shit.

>>260231607
This looks like it's taken out of context with how quickly Dave becomes nuclear.
Makes me wish he got a C&D at this point.

Can't see shit

>>260214475
The ping thing isn't true, I use third party hosting for the server. I do have a low ping though since the third party host is close to where I live, geographically. It's the closest place I could find that is still in europe but also has decent ping to the NAs since I don't want to leave you guys out.

Is VorpX worth it?

>>260255708
No, just get it for free from the deep seas.

>>260239326
I'll at least combine it with my climbing autism.
I haven't completed the carnival though so it's not real autism.

>>260250038
they shoot up the fairy duh

>>260250038

>>260257003
>https://github.com/OpenVR-Advanced-Settings/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings/releases
>>260257080
I can't believe they're in private talking about the periodic table

>hydrogen

>>260250038
It's a 2-person portal. Closes after the second person goes in. Then you can bounce to another world. Or just use that one.

>>260250038
They clip into each other's models while making male moaning noises and saying cringe shit like "cum in my ass, I need it!". How the fuck do you beta faggots get off to this shit anyways?

>>260258751
>They clip into each other's models while making male moaning noises and saying cringe shit like "cum in my ass, I need it!"
god, I wish that were me.

>>260239326
Cake-tall is strangely cute some how

>>260236152
My avatar is OC excuse you

>>260240883
>I don't know what people were expecting.
It's kind of depressing to think that the only games we have are all run by retards, so I guess it was wishful thinking.

I think some of the Tetris Effects maps are meant to make you gay. Like the one with the rainbow dolphins that shoves seagull ass in my face whenever I'm about to go in the Zone.

>>260260106
>I guess it was wishful thinking
just don't play, buy or even put attention to games ran by tards. Thinking like that is what keeps shit companies like EA and Bethesda alive

>>260260572
different kind of tardation. Plus if you start to get picky about VR games, you might as well sell the headset because it will be useless by the time you can afford to be picky.

>>260260717
>you might as well sell the headset because it will be useless
Glad I didn't fall for the Index meme. Great hardware, but no games to back it up yet.
Just look at the state of this thread. The local clown went away for rehab and this general is already dead.
Vr was great when vrc was decent. Pavlov was fun too, but you have to admit that's all we have. Shitty games that get boring quickly unless you're a tard, a drunkard or a desperate lewder.

>>260260195
anon, dolphins and rainbows can't turn you gay, what you described sounds like an attempt to annoy you while you are already tired from climbing
low tier mind games if you will

Hewp!
VRChat "desktop low" (or any other preset) randomly crashing on locations with players after 1-10 minutes of playing (not crashing at home location) with RAM-CPU-GPU usage about 20-60% depends of location which never caused crashes in any other game before. I never met situation like this. What do?
Removed and manually updated vidya card drivers to the latest version – nothing has changed.
Win 10 x64, intel core i7-2600k, 8GB DDR3, AMD Radeon R9 280

>>260261931
delete vrc cache

>>260261542
Beat Saber's alright too, but for me it was also one of those games I thought that'd be expanded with mechanics.
Once you manage to beat Expert songs you either have to commit to clear Expert+ or be stuck with boring maps. I've got commitment issues, and mastering 'kaizo' levels is about the last thing I want to do.
I guess we had a good run from 2016-2019, 2018 especially. It's worth looking forward to the next attempt and use the tech we have for sims and the odd games that haven't died yet.

>>260261931
if you have any GPU or CPU overclock tune it down to something safer. Vrc is really good at crashing with unstable OCs.
Try deleting the cache files too.

>>260261542
VR was always built for vehicle sims. Anything else is gimmick shit.

>>260262096
same, 2018 was a hell of a ride. Fun times. Sadly we have gonne stale. All we can do is wait, don't fall for bait software and hope the mobile market doesn't take over. Even vr being dominated by the console market is a 100 times better than what mobile vr is preparing for us.

>>260262430
>1966. Thomas Furness, a military engineer, created the first flight simulator for the Air Force. This assisted in the progression of VR because the military subsequently provided a lot of funding for producing better flight simulators.
Well, considering the original concept was to train pilots, I completely agree with you.

>>260262541
Yeah, it's unfortunate VR didn't come out when companies still competed with "real" games like PS3/Wii/X360 era. This is gacha era, and VR is about the last thing that's on a developer's mind when he wants to make money.

>>260262772
>This is gacha era
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
WHY DID YOU HAVE TO SAY IT?!
goddammit, the truth hurts. It hurts too much. Take me out of this era...

>>260262895
Same, man. I tried to give those games that play themselves a chance and I just can't do it. I don't fall for the waifu scam, I'm tired of the constant "rewarding" those games provide. Nothing makes me lose interest in the game like when you get it well after the release and you have to sit through 10 minutes of DLC rewards and unlocks/teasers of the events.
if they wanted to sell it to me, they'd have to make a game like Euro Truck Simulator 2 with an anime girl on a passenger seat interacting with you, playing with the radio, snoozing when it's night.

>>260263217
coop yurotruck with animegirls when?

>>260263460
Co-oping one vehicle is one of my best vidya memories from games like Battlefield.
Imagine a companion in game like Assetto Corsa, that would go "Sugoi!" and shit everytime you do something cool.

>>260263780
Girls Und Panzer VR multiplayer co-op.

>>260263217
I would pay for the chance to mow my lawn on vr while my waifu gets a tan on the pool.
>>260263780
battlefield on vr would be amazing. Not BF5. That game's shit.

>>260263902
If I weren't retarded I'd work on a low-poly airsoft game with cute chibi anime girls. Airsoft or nerfs, both would work well in VR. Cute little off-game areas, cute lobbies, cute everything, all the customization your tired lonely hearts could take.
Shame that Japs aren't on it already.

>>260263902
if we had udon (and someone willing to model tank interiors) there's at least two people in /vrg/ who would probably be willing to make it

>>260264556
surely Udon will work as flawlessly as the new Network IK and the buggy video streaming system do right now. God bless our competent VrChat devs

>>260264182
Just Cause co-op in vr...

>>260264556
Yeah, I don't have high expectations towards VRChat. The moment the wind stops blowing in their sails they're dead in the water and will be unable to do anything.

>>260264379
Just add a gun to your avatar and have anime vr fps on the doom map.

>>260265527
don't reply to me.

>>260265527
All the guns, pickups, enemies, hud and postgame-scoreboards are in and working. Populating the maps is pretty simple now all the groundwork is done but the maps themselves take a long time to make because there needs to be unique animations and triggers for every door/elevator/switch/secret, along with a lot of geometry cleaned up for them.

I'm finishing up e1m3 right now and it will take a couple of days for each map from here on out, please look forward to it.

what's a good shader that can take a seamless normalmap and apply it all over a model?
for like skin on the body or fabric on clothing.

>>260265991
Like a tiled normal map?

>>260265846
don't forget to make time for fixing your map every time devs break it with new game updates ;^)

How deep on the list are you, /vrg/?

>>260242625
>stick to flat shit.
How about you stick to not being in /vrg/?

>>260265991
There's a lot of shaders that can do this, my preference is Rero's edited standard shader since it lets you use cubemaps as fallback light probes so world lighting won't ruin your avatar.

>>260263780
>>260263460
There is a Nürburgring map we went to a while ago. It had cars with multiple seats and I was in the passenger seat. It was a lot of fun and immersive just sitting next to a cute animu and watching it drive while the car radio blasted very loud music.

>>260266305
no you

>>260266509
I don't know how anyone can play VRFPS then advocate playing legacyFPS. It's feels completely retarded to go back to fish eye FOV, vector 2 aiming, and being limited by animations and what keybinds can initiate. If VR truly died and nothing was updated any more, I'd keep playing what I have for so long as it interests me and if it doesn't any more, I'd quit video games. Any attempt to play anything on a monitor in the past two years has completely failed.

>>260266215
"Feeling disconnected". What are these symptoms for anyway?

>>260266821
>taking a liking to vrcs:go
ew

>>260267002
It's the same difference as between VRChat and Second Life. The input/output system is fundamentally different.

>>260266821
thats one of the hardest parts of VR, it completely spoils you on flatscreen shooters

>>260266215
>all of them
Holy fucking shit.
Why am I still alive or not a criminal?

>>260266348
does arktoon let you do it?

>>260267237
I'd fortunately lost interest in them already.

>>260266215
opposite it fixed a lot of these things for me

>>260267237
I'm not going to defend vrc either. Unless you're a lewder or a drunkard, not so different than SL's main population, you won't stick around for long.
The tech does make vr amazing, but the awful state of vrc and pretty much all games for vr right now bores most people like most shovelware does to everyone.

>>260266215
Mild dissociation is a temporary (over weeks/months) side effect of being introduced to vr. It goes away. Don't mistake this for mental illness.

>>260267348
If I could somehow get Squad in VR...

>>260267575
You act like there's any quality control in flat games either.

>>260266821
it's simple, pointing using a motion controller is a lot more intuitive and natural than using a mouse to navigate Vector2 space.
I'm glad that we have millimeter precision for these controllers, otherwise this wouldn't be possible.

>>260267718
I think ARMA would be better because that's generally played co-op. Even on monitors, milsims struggle to get enough players to fill servers, so there's no chance in VR.

>>260266962
Search "Warning signs of mental illness" on google. It's on a psychiatry website.

What is it called when you suddenly become hyper aware of your IRL existence, and existence itself, which causes you to be overcome with overwhelming panic and fear? It also makes me feel like I’m trapped and screaming in my own head. I get this every time I pull myself away from games or other distractions for too long and usually have to find something to distract myself immediately or else pass out from the sheer horror of it all.

>>260267757
it's not just about quality control but about choice.
There's a reason why most of /vrg/ would rather play Halo, League and FFXIV. That's how bad the current state of vr is right now. No real games on vr while PC has a way more options beyond just shovelware crap and of course, SkyrimVR :^)
>>260267894
ARMA VR would be way better than Pavlov for sure

>>260267002
Why does everyone compare it to CS:GO? CS:GO is tight as fuck compared to Pavlov. With content up the ass. Pavlov is original CS early beta level and never reaching 1.X probably.

>>260268004
>Pavlov is original CS early beta level
That's exactly what Pavlov is, a downgraded, more buggy version of CS. Not even worth being compared to a half decent shooter

>>260266821
>>260267237
>>260267786
Lol, no. Playing VR shooters while pretending to be holding a rifle with a pair of controllers feels fucking retarded, wonky and shit.
On top of that the players are all fucking idiots and there's no serious competitive scene to be found, only chucklefucks who think it's funny to steal your magazine mid round for the 50th time.

>>260267786
I think the lack of control bothers me even more than the simplification of 6 dof into a vector 2. You have to watch artificially long animations. You can't fire your gun if the cover is slightly too tall. You can't just drop your weapon and pull out a pistol, or use your other hand, or hold two things at once. It's really frustrating.

>>260268115
it is funny, gotta admit.

>>260268115
And to add to that, recoil feels fucking retarded in VR, when the """""""gun"""""" is supposed to actually be in your hands, rather than how it works in the highly abstract mouse environment.

-be me -has already played murder for at least an hour, as the murderer, repeatedly -finally spawn as a detective -tries to grab the gun that I dropped -someone using a Peter Griffin avatar grabbed the gun -(YOU DIED) -(INSERT DARK SOULS DEATH THEME)

TL;DR

Got shot with my own gun by Peter Griffin while playing as the detective in murder

>>260268115
I'm surprised that so many years have past by and barely anyone uses a prop ar-15 as a weapon to play vr fps games
there is a single VR FPS game meant for training that allows you to use several "weapons" as controllers, but it's pretty jank compared to what we're used to.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/720510/Tactical_AR/

>play bad flatshit shooters that are easily replicated in vr because they lack any for of advanced movement
Call me when we get:
T(eam)F(ortress)2 VR (Actual vr controls, not controller inputs)
T(itan)F(all) 2 VR
Tribes VR
Then you might stop me playing flatshit.

>>260267575
State of VR is also getting worse over the course of this year, arguably.
Games get shitty updates, Index was one step ahead and two steps back, nothing new is coming out. If Boneworks turns out to be nothing more than a tech demo I'd consider 2019 the shittiest year for VR by far.

>>260268002
>There's a reason why most of /vrg/ would rather play Halo, League and FFXIV
Because VR was always optional to them. They're here for the social experience. I wish we had /vrvg/, even if it were only ten people, as long as they were interested in VR. It's really draining to watch everyone complaining all the time.

>>260268275
what's even worse is that if the trackers could be still be programmable, you could just simply have a holster for a pistol IRL with a tracker on it, a rifle with a tracker on it and then analog control for the trigger that sends the signal back to the tracker
and then simply have those objects follow you in your playspace as you have them either on a strap or in a holster.
there are lightguns for PSVR and that sort of jazz, but we don't really have anything that's cheap for SteamVR

>>260268275
There needs to be an introduction of no-bullshit purpose built gun controllers at an affordable price for VR shooters to make sense. Not talking about those cupholder contraptions either.

>>260267979
Sounds like derealization disorder perhaps. Though I don't get the anxiety part of it, I often times become hyper-aware of my own consciousness and feel detached from my self as if I'm piloting my existence from the 3rd person. Which is pretty neat truth be told and I've used it to great effect in getting through for what would have otherwise been some stressful situations.
VR has made this go away though for whatever reason. Made me more used to the idea of embodying and being immersed as a character I suppose.

>>260268441
General purpose controllers won't match the dimensions of anything in game and would cause problems with doing other things.

>>260268528
Keep it simple enough and it'll be acceptable for most rifles. The core gunplay is more important than stuff like grenade throws and other crap.

>>260268275
VR is too niche, the fact how Vivelets were starved for Knuckles and how they ate that shit right up proves it. None of the major companies like Logitech/Thrustmaster/Razer even hint at making 3rd party shit, and SteamVR is pretty open for that.
I don't think it would be impossible to have weapon shaped controllers. I had a PS2 P99 gun-con that had a bunch of buttons and even a thumbstick, some games like RE:Dead Aim used it handsomely. If you make it an oversized gun like Mk23 with LAM or Desert Eagle, youve got more than enough inputs. I would even go back to using wands if there was an ArmA VR that could let you use a tracked AR, a tracked handgun and wands for "hands" and throwing nades.

>>260268441
just take a moment and search for "Sony Sharp Shooter" on amazon and be amazed how many shitty PS Move lightguns they have while we have nothing that's cheap.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=sony+sharpshooter
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004Q3RDQ6


https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=htc+vive+gun
https://tacticalar.net/product/tacticalarfcg/

even the fire group they sell is expensive, $350, but if you own a rifle I suppose you could use it, it's steamvr compatible.

>>260268347
>these games
>advanced movement
you literally named console games.

>>260268858
>Rocket jumping
>Zipline momentum swings
>Skiing, spinfusor and grenade boosting
The games are better on PC by miles, TF2 never got updates on consoles, in fact any FPS is basically unplayable on console and doesn't even count really. Shut the fuck up and go back to your CS-Slow, casual. Counter Strike is just a retarded derivative of Quake made for bad players anyway.

>>260268750
you can use those sony props with steamvr, but as demonstrated in that video, you need to have a way to mount a tracker onto it, which then serves as the "gun", and then the rest of the controls are fed into steamvr bindings in some hacky way, this way you replace the need for PSVR hardware for desktop (?)

>>260268964
>Counter Strike is just a retarded derivative of Quake made for bad players anyway.
>Pavlov is several times worse than CS
Undeniable truth

>>260268964
What's so hard in Rocket Jumping that you can't do it in VR? I mean, H3VR has it.
Jet Island had plenty advanced movements.

Every general I've every been in has been like this, aside from the ones that couldn't be sustained early on. Extremely positive for the first few months then devolves into nothing but finding faults, social shitposting, or just outright offtopic. People really need to know when to just leave. Someone will try to justify how it's actually objectively justified this time, but I assure you. Every single general is like this. Every single one thinks their game is irredeemable. They've all invested too much.

>>260268964
I'm not protecting Pavlov, I absolutely despise it, It baffles me we don't have a Quake 3 VR game yet, I'm just saying none of the stuff you listed is impossible to do in VR?

>>260269081
I never said it's hard to do in VR or you "can't" stop putting words in my mouth or read my posts properly, I was saying "Call me when someone does" because until then, flatscreen shooters are better than VR ones still.

>>260269176
Okay, leave your mobile phone number then, jeez.

>>260269152
Quote where I said Impossible. I know it's not impossible. Where is the games already? Hand them over.

>>260268721
Razer already tried being a player in VR with their OSVR headset and the Hydra motion controllers. As you might expect, no one cared.

>>260269245
Rec Room has a Quake clone and its surprisingly accurate.

>>260269308
Sweet, rec-room nights when?

>>260269273
I knew about Hydra, didn't know about headset. That's even worse, because it means they tried and decide it's a bad idea instead of just playing it safe and trying to copy the success of others.

>>260267979
I can't really function unless I'm distracting myself somehow. I can't so much as do the dishes without at least listening to a podcast or something. Showers are challenging and tend to be very long affairs as I get trapped in my own intrusive thoughts.

>>260269090
it's part of the /vg/ cycle
now that the local retard is gone, got dabbed on by the vrfu meme and his own autism, there isn't much to do. All generals come to and end. Smart anons left long ago.

>>260269354
Sorry, I made that up, I haven't played Rec Room since BR update and even then I haven't had more than 2 hours clocked in.

>got some rainy day money and thought about buying a headset
>ended up upgrading my rig

>>260268401
I came for the VR games but stayed for the social experience. If not for VRChat I would have sold my headset over a year ago. VR games don't really provide replay value outside of vehicle sims, and there aren't many new games coming out worth playing.

>>260267979
Sounds like growing up.

>>260269495
smart decision

>>260268189
I'm gonna reply to contribute to this thread's downfall.

>>260269497
Unironically leave /vrg/ already.
>>260269418
I hope it does die. That isn't going to make me lose contact with who I already know. I would just put an end to this fucked up state of pretending real life meet ups and flat games are an acceptable part of a VR group, and an adherence to '4chan culture' only when it is convenient.

>>260269519
What if you've been having those thoughts since the 2nd grade?

What generals did you frequent that have died, /vrg/? Does it all seem too familiar? Can you see /vrg/ moving entirely to Discord and barely being about VR in the near future? All it takes to cut the lifeline is one bad VRC update.

>>260267979
I was on anti-anxiety drugs and that happened to me a lot, it was very creepy.
It would happen the worse when I looked at a mirror. And whenever I was alone at home it felt like i was there with "myself" and i didn't like it and would have to watch something or play a video game to make it go away.
Are you on any medication or smoke weed?

>>260269649
>I would just put an end to this fucked up state of pretending real life meet ups and flat games are an acceptable part of a VR group, and an adherence to '4chan culture' only when it is convenient
this
/vrg/ outgrew 4ch and now it's more of a normie, Discord community. Most dont even look at this thread anymore and spend all their time in Discord and other generals. It is time to put this general to rest and bring it back to life in a year or 2 after vr improves or at least gives us more content.

>>260269862
/pdg/...

>>260269959
You too have known loss...
/asg/...

>>260269862
csgo

>>260269959
The kike on wheels...

>>260269923
I've never smoked and I've been off meds for 6ish years.
>>260268449
It feels more like a sudden realization than derealization. It's like i'm constantly in a state of dissociation and when I'm pulled back to my physical form it's too much for me to handle. I've never had the 3rd person experience though, it's more like I just forget I have a corporeal form in the first place.
>>260269398
I'm the exact same way.

>>260269862
/a3g/...

>>260269862
I've been in the two exact same generals that were generals on /v/ and they're both still going strong.
when vrchat leaves that's when vrvg rises up and claims this clay as their own

>>260269398
Same, I feel like there's a constant haze of intrusive thoughts following me. Back in the day I noticed it takes a while to catch up to me, used to go on really long walks in the forest then. Now it finds me quickly wherever I go. Probably gonna drive off of a cliff one day in hopes I get a couple seconds of peace of mind. I wish my parents never met.

>>260270189
I was shilling vrvg hard but at this point even I acknowledge it's fucked. What's there to talk about? Dave's meltdowns and childish tantrum? How unplayable Onwards currently is? Member when Contractors was supposed to get workshop update? Member when we played Eleven/Creed? 404 after half a day material right there.

>>260270280
>>260269398
Get checked for OCD. I forgot to mention I have it, and it's probably a major reason why I get intrusive thoughts. It's not just >le everything has to be neat and tidy im so quirky xd

>>260270395
Could be, but what if they find it? Do you give you meds? Because at this point I'd rather just chug down a pint of bleach.

>>260270089
Sounds like just a slight variation. It's a pretty common anxiety type disorder.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depersonalization_disorder
It became increasingly common after existentialism became well known in the modern world. It's a pretty easy thing to get over though or gain control on. I can personally turn it on and off like flicking a switch.

>>260270471
Meds are recommended but you can learn coping mechanisms and how to re-structure your thoughts during an episode too. Honestly just knowing the reason for your symptoms can be a big help too, it was a relief for me when I was diagnosed.

>>260270584
>Honestly just knowing the reason for your symptoms can be a big help too
Yeah, but unless I win the lottery knowing the reasons does exactly zero. I've led, and leading myself to a corner for as long as I remember. There's a lot to unfuck. This is VR related because I can't socialize in VR for shit too lol

>>260270702
make an alt and put on a voice changer and just do it it's easy

There is a thread on /vg/ board,
They call the VR general.
And it's been the ruin of many a poor girl (male),
and God I know I'm one.

My mommy was a kancolle,
Shrinkwraped my new blue jeans.
My father was a goblin' man.
Down in VRG.
Now the only thing a goblin needs is
A namedrop and a vaguepost.
And the only time he'll be satisfied
Is when he's on a drunk VRFPS.

>>260271176
Oh mommy, tell your orbiters.
Not to do what I have done.
Spend your evenings in VRsin and misery
In the meetup of /trash/ VR general.

Well I've got one foot on the flatshit,
and the other on the discord. There takeing
me back to VRG to play Shadowbringers...

Lewd!

This is how I show my love
I made it in my mind because
I blame it on my O.C.D. baby

This is how an purefag dies
I blame it on my own supply
Blame it on my O.C.D. baby

Lewd!
Lewd!
Lewd!
Lewd!
Lewd!

Maybe I should cry for help
Maybe I should kill myself (myself)
Blame it on my O.C.D. baby

Maybe I'm a different breed
Maybe I'm not listening
So blame it on my O.C.D. baby

Lewd!
Lewd!
Lewd!
Lewd!
Lewd!

La la la la la
La la la la la oh!
La la la la la,
La la la la la oh!
La la la la la,
La la la la la,

Lewd!
Lewd!
Lewd!
Lewd!

Lewd with me into the Void.
Lewd
Lewd with me into the Void.
Lewd
Lewd with me into the Void.
Lewd
Lewd with me
Lewd!

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ7oPzW7YC4

I've been posting daily since the first thread and I'm getting to the point where I think I should abandon it for the shitposters to shitpost each other.

>>260271920
I kind of like the lyricposting. /vrg/ sings when?

>>260271920
you main complain about shitposters, but if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't get bumped.
By we I mean myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBsdWW7MOew
Watch this general lose dozens of posts when janny gets angry and 3 days me again like he has for last year and a half.