/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1278

that's the n-word.

>make shapekey that shrinks part of outfit
>shrinks perfectly fine in blender
>turn on shapekey in unity
>get weird thin strands of the shrunken part sticking out of my body
What's happening and how to fix?

Wish Upon A Star!
Live in the present, look forward to the future

WHEN - June 24th, 11:59pm EST, 8:59PM PDT (TIME UPDATED TO CORRECT TIME)

WHAT - A formal Japanese themed festival event. Not based on any holiday in particular. Features custom festival stalls, games, shrine maidens (male), and more!

WHO - Everyone's invited! Yes anon, even (you).

"But K, I don't have a Japanese dress model, and I don't want to reuse the one I made last year!"
This year I did things a little different. I got one of our very own 3d modelers to whip up a custom outfit for you guys. Think of it as a souvenir, or something to slap on your model specifically for it. It's not required in any way, just a gift to you guys. More details to follow as they're available. Preciate you guys, and looking forward to seeing you there!

Yukata download link - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qYQRl1xbt54qzkgqwDO58pwJOzeZ2B4n/view?usp=sharing

ADDENDUM!
We got room for custom tents. If you want to contribute, here's the files and fbx to use. Post it in the thread when you're done and respond to this post so I can easily find it plz. Or if you can just dm me, either or.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T7QZKfTFXa_R4qarlVDtitWkqUqB9XDz/view?usp=sharing

IT'S HAPPENING VALVEBROS

Friendly reminder to vote kick trannies, even if they're being ironic about it.

>>388155313
Don't use shapekey shrinking to hide outfits, it is less performant than just turning the mesh off

>>388155996
Explain

>>388155996

>>388156049
Leaked code and UI for Deckard.

>>388155996
>>388156168
Oh fuck yes.

>>388156043
I'm doing it this way for joining all my meshes. So keeping meshes separated to hide outfits is more performant than joining meshes and using shapekeys?

>>388155996
please restock base stations first valve PLEASE

Valve is gonna save VR with a wireless and better Index.

>>388156216
Yes. Please keep your face seperate too; shapekeys on high polygon meshes are laggy.

https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Avatar_Optimization

this article is unfinished but you canmlearn something

>>388156482
Thanks very much!

>>388155996
>>388156168
source on these?

So there's this Steam VR Fest event that Valve never did before that's happening next month. Maybe Deckard really is coming sooner than we thought?

>>388156792
Discord.

>>388155996
I only bought an Index late last year, I'm not ready to buy another headset yet...

>>388157653
Thanks for beta testing :)

>>388157653
You will when your set starts breaking.

>>388157653
i just bought mine yesterday, so how do you think i feel

>>388157653
It'll fail to the point of being inoperable within 3 months anyway.

>>388157998
Rationalize it as a back up headset.

>>388157653
As I always say, the best time to buy any kind of high end cutting edge product is always a month or two after release. Gives you the most time to enjoy it while also making sure there aren't any huge launch problems.

>>388157998
It's a good headset still

>>388157653
>>388157998
Getting an Index now will at least still be somewhat useful as Deckard will have optional support for Lighthouse. See leaked code.

>>388158240
How is it gonna do FBT without basestations?

>>388158064
that's what my quest 2 was supposed to be

>>388157868
>>388158078
>>388158034
I've had 3 indices so far. First one got replaced because of a pixel error within two months or so, the replacement has been working fine since mid 2020.
The third one is for my other place and has been working well so far, but it's only been a bit more than half a year, as I said. I'm hitting the wall a lot with it, though, so I guess I won't be able to sell it for an upgrade. I guess it'll be my spare.

But I'd rather have the headset take another year or two to come out, because I'll feel the FOMO hard. I shouldn't feel that way, though, because we all win in the end when a new top consumer headset comes and drives development.

>>388158483
Rationalize it as a player 2 headset so you can have a friend or a family member come by to play with you together

I wish I had enough money to "rationalize" my way into buying a deckard right after buying an index, lmao.

>>388155996
finally, some good fuckin food

>>388158538
..."Friend"?

this is pretty good timing my index just ran out of warranty so ill probably use it until something breaks one more time and then grab whatever valve comes out with. I just hope that its a proper replacement and upgrade to the index and not like some shit low end thing like the quest.

I bought my index a month ago

All complaining about deckard coming out, it doesnt even have a release date or anything. It's probably a year or two at most. Everything you buy ain't going to be top tier forever, if you want/need it, buy it, if you're fine not being at the cutting edge, then ignore it.

>>388159023
I will buy Meta Cambria

>>388158812
same, but i have a gaming place that already said they would buy it if i were to upgrade
>captcha

Why doesn't the particle work?

>>388159439
rindo sexo

>>388159439
You probably have set it to 0 emission rate on the emission thingy

>>388159738
Thanks anon.

lol

>>388158428
FBT in its current form probably just won't be supported without lighthouses

>>388155996
Nice, hopefully it's actually competitive with Cambria.

>>388157998
Got mine 2 months ago. Will buy deckard. I must consooooommmm

I was told there should be a Viseme(int) parameter that's pre-included as it's a base vrchat param but I cannot seem to find it.
Anyone know how I can use it in the animation layers?

Trying out a new version of Akina in Assetto Corsa tonight at 8PM EDT.
Mods and DLC are below, and the server is running the new config if you want to test anything in advance.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/#F!IgMnDK7Y!16gzEjZRZsea9QE3NDQg6Q
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/BBwxhS6D#4jJIfs6omnJUaJfsnqPqGQ

>caved in and bought index 4 months ago
>made a loan
>realize that my headset will be obsolete within a year
>realize inflation will fuck up my loans interest rate
>valve never fucking updates their old hardware
>I won’t be the popular new tech guy at the meets

Fuck I made a huge mistake

>>388157653
I just asked my bro in a country it sells for a reasonable price in what the price is for headset + controllers only like a couple of days ago. It's out of stock of I have to wait anyway but fug man how long do I have to wait for?

>>388164165
>Going into debt to buy an entertainment piece
You fucking nincompoop
You'll be poor forever

>>388155049 (OP)
please no racism

>>388165627
>anyways just remember "around blacks never relax"

>>388165913
Cute elf

>>388165913
i relax my anus around them to make it easier to fuck me

>>>388166460
>t-that's gross!

>>388165913
avatar suggestion, delicious choco fits world's island setting

>>388166823
!

all these cute boys...

>>388124447 (Cross-thread)
Yes, you absolutely should. Just because other people are selfish tards doesn't mean you should be.
Let other people get perf blocked or advanced safety limited if they want. Be that guy who walks around in optimized avatars with just a few materials and 1-2 meshes.

>>388166502
what the fuck???? is this real??? is that actually c????

>>388167047
My beloved...

>>388164060
You need to go into that animator's parameter tab and add it there. What they mean by that is you don't need to add to your avatar's Expression Parameters

>>388165913
>>388166502
What was his name again?

>>388167826
her name is my wife

cute autist harem

>>388167047
>>388166823
We need a vr tv show made out of thse teo cinnamon rolls. What would it be like?

>upload avatar to test it and see if everything works
>look in the mirror
>one vertex pokes out of head when I move my head around
>go back to blender and try to replicate the same thing to see if I can fix it
>nothing is wrong with the avatar
What the fuck? I hate noticing something like that, now it's gonna be stuck on my mind forever and I don't know how to fix it since I don't have any idea what is causing it. everything that is supposed to be weighted to head is weighted to it and just works in blender.

>>388168208
Move your whole body in pose mode to see the vertex

>>388168208
do you have any weightpaint modifier on one of your objects ?
you might need to apply them first befire exporting

>>388168190
very awkward conversation until they've both been drinking for about four hours and then relentless racism and aggression(very cute)

>>388168208
My check to see if an avatar is working is to grab the hips in pose mode and move the whole avatar miles away. Any unweighted things will be stuck in place and can be fixed really easily.

>>388167689
Luckily found it much earlier whlie reading through the docs.
Still thanks though.

>>388167826
>"No blacks in vrchat" Cleet
>"Nuke the gooks" Cleet
>"The Auschwitz Awper" Cleet
>"See a spic vote to kick" Cleet
>"Charlottesville Champion" Cleet

>>388168547
I’d watch it

the headset you have right now is shit. You probably have quest 2 or index or some outdated shit like that.
You are looking for an upgrade no doubt, since so many new hi-res, uoled, foveated, eye tracking, face tracking, etc etc and shit headsets are about to drop, so what will you be getting?
Will you just buy the deckard the second it drops, or are you considering more nontypical consoomer options as well, like chinkshits such as piemax? their new coming 12k is looking pretty sweet as well. And there are a bunch of tempting options from various companies coming.
How much are you willing to spend?
If you for example live and breath vrchat, as for some people it's their entire social life, i assume you will be willing to invest couple grand at least to enhance that which is your only joy in life.

So what is your plan frens? I am very curious to find out since i am facing these questions myself.
Please respond, i am genuinely curious to find out.

>also rip lenses in picrel

>>388169246
There's more to headsets than screen resolution and gimmicks. What you want is something comfortable, with good lenses and FoV, with good spatial audio, with decent build quality and good support. Ideally not requiring third party software, and has good tracking.

>>388169246
will preorder deckard for sure, eventually getting new pimax depending on reviews

>>388169418
if you buy the pimemax 5ks for 400 coins now, you can later trade it in for 12k and get 900 coin discount

>>388169385
that goes without saying, i want to know what upgrade people here plan to do, like me personally will be sticking with my q2 until i can buy an uoled headset, which will maybe still take a year or even two for a decent one to hit the market but at least i can save up for a good one

So my character's hair looks very not so cartoony in game.
Like it looks too obvious that it's a 3d model.
What am I doing wrong here?

>>388169246
I'll only be buying a new headset moving forward if they are cheap, I'm happy to spend shit loads on hardware but VR just isn't worth a heavy investment right now, I need proper games coming out regularly to convince me to spend big on a headset, right now I have no urge to upgrade.

>>388169246
>since so many new hi-res
We cannot even drive current headsets properly. We don't need a resolution bump.

>>388169593
Not using a toon shader. Get poiyomi or something

>>388169454
yeah, but I don't need/care about the 5k so I have no reason to risk losing money if the 12k isn't as good as promised
(which is most likely the case considering it's pimax)

>>388169532
I think it is worth mentioning as people scream about the latest gimmick like a higher resolution screen or deeper blacks or eye tracker dethroning the index and people just ignore the entire package.

>>388169663
the new consoomer headsets will be topping off at 4k per eye, most of then will prolly be just 2k per eye, and you can drive that fine with a high end gaming computer, specially with the rtx 4000 about to drop

>>388169664
But other meshes look fine and they use UTS.
It's just the hair.

>>388169758
No, you cannot. Not at native, not at proper refresh rates.
3090 is not enough, even 4090 wouldn't be enough too.

>>388169682
for me the display quality and fov are the two most important things that will drive my purchase, everything else is just a bonus, good sound and mic are nice but if they are shit they can be fixed relatively easily, even comfort can with some custom straps and shit, but you can never change the screens and lenses and resolution

>>388156216
Just use Silents shader inventory system if you want to be optimised with toggles

>>388169984
4090 will be able to drive 2k per eye at 90 fps no problem at all, probably even 4k
Not to mention you don't even have to.
The new headsets will have foveated rendering, this means you can run 4k per eye at 120fps and the gpu only has to render something sub 2k thanks to eye tracking

>>388156168
>>388155996
Don't do this to me... I was literally about to buy a replacement cable today for my 3 year old Index but now I feel like I shouldn't...

>>388170181
Quest 2 "native" rendering res is already 5408*2736, just so you know, retard.
>The new headsets will have foveated rendering
Wrong. Current eye tracking tech is still too slow for foveated rending.

You are uneducated, stop talking, it's just embarrassing to watch.

>>388170245
Having a functioning cable is still nice to have if you plan on selling your index.

>>388170350
nice strawman fag, but per eye is half of that
and some of the new headsets already confirmed they will have foveated rendering, because they literally have to so modern gpus can actually drive them fully.

>>388169418
>will preorder deckard for sure
i will too but only if it has micro oled displays.
they are so fucking good than anything without them will be a huge disappointment

>>388170669
You are going to the see first good consumer VR gear in 3 fuckin years and you won't buy it if it doesn't have a bleeding edge panel?

>>388170350
>>388170530
The thing about foveated rendering is a little more complicated. It turns out that PSVR and Quest can already do fixed foveated rendering with high performance savings, which gets better with eye tracking (making it dynamic foveated rendering). But if you used those headsets with a PC, you couldn't do that, because Nvidia has not implemented a complete solution to foveated rendering that isn't VRSS + VRS. So when we get eye tracked PCVR headsets, they're not going to be as efficient as what can be done on console/mobile hardware. You'll have more horsepower to make up for it, but you just wouldn't be getting the most out of the headsets. At least until Nvidia catches up.

>>388170886
The first good consumer VR gear was the vive/ original oculus

>>388170886
if it's more focused on being a quest-like instead of being a better headset than what I already have, then yes.

>>388170886
not if competition will release a headset with vastly superior display within the same timeframe
display is literally the most important part of the headset, everything else you can work around or improve. you would be buying a CRT monitor when oled TVs exist

>>388170494
Nah I'd keep it as a backup anyways

>>388169246
I have no realistic upper limit. I'd have no problem spending a few grand on a headset that I feel is worth it.
Most likely gonna get Deckard the moment its up for preorder since despite the Index being so fragile it's still by far the best all-rounder headset and I'm happy with mine

deckard will likely have uoleds tho, because according to leakers fat gaben has been dealing with emagine, which is a fab that mass produces uoled displays

>>388170530
>but per eye is half of that
What I'm saying that it's more than 2k per eye for a long time already, you fucking idiot.

>>388170920
>Nvidia has not implemented a complete solution to foveated rendering that isn't VRSS + VRS
How would you even implement it differently? Variable rate shading (which is in essence MSAA/SSAA but in reverse) should be a proper way, but I don't expect a lot of games supporting it.

>>388171248
what's the difference between uOLED and regular OLED?

>>388171380
UOLED is cuter and funnier

>>388171380
oh, nevermind the "u" is a Micro symbol, i've only heard it called micro oled

>>388171284
That is the problem. It's not easy to implement as a complete solution. On PSVR/Quest it's as easy as just changing a driver setting. Nvidia need to make it something where developers don't have to implement it and it can just work by turning foveated rendering on or off like the usual settings they have in the control panel. VRSS does not even work this way right now since it only works with whitelisted apps.

>>388171186
it's pretty shitty valve is still selling index at full price, like what the fuck you greedy shits?
quest 2 nearly identical to indexs displays vise (smaller fov but huger res) it only has a bit vorse sound and mic, and costs 3 times fucking less. not to mention you can use it anywhere and standalone.
seems like deckard will be standalone as well, so if it's uoled and sells for under 2k i will be getting it
too bad it will take like a fucking year still for it to release and then will be impossible to get for next 6 months due to scalping and high demand

>>388171486
The cost of producing the index has not gone down since release. I'm not sure why you don't understand this.

>>388171380
From what I gather on google, uoled is a marketing product term for pmoled.
Which is a slower and cheaper panel vs what the smartphones get.

>>388171520
valve has infinite money from the steam store
if they wanted to they could subsidize index for 300 like zucc does
but they are greedy cunts, and as a result will waste their opportunity to get a goo market share in the exploding vr market. vr and mr is literally about to kill flat screen within the next decade

>>388171380
>>388171579
The funny thing here is that micro OLED is not an official term or used by industry. It's technically OLED microdisplays. But because of people like that one infamous leaker calling them micro OLED, that's what most of us are calling it now too.

>>388171470
>Nvidia need to make it something where developers don't have to implement it and it can just work by turning foveated rendering on or off
Braindead developers who need stuff like that wouldn't be able to get good performance even if nvidia provides such option.
Consoles/mobile shouldn't have any inherent performance advantage, I see no reason why a proper implementation on PC wouldn't be just as efficient. The tools are already there.

>>388171652
they can't keep up with production at a non-subsidized price, I can't tell if they just don't have the connections or if they think that having your product be out of stock constantly is a good marketing strategy

>>388171415
>your headset has been successfully upgraded with uohled display, thank you for your business
>image fidelity? sorry? no, the difference is that all vrchat avatars will now appear flat-chested

>>388171652
This brand of mental retardation smells familiar.

>>388171789
they will have to step up their fab game with deckard
this is not a game anymore, where index is the only good option on the market so they can do whatever and still be top dogs in consoomer vr. serious players are entering the vr market with headsets that will be almost as good, or as good, or fuck even better than deckard possibly and the market will be full of them. if valve misses this closing window if slim pickings in regards to good headsets in current market they are fucked because once the fabs are up and running any any chink can grab high end uoled headsets for cheap it's game over for latecommers

>>388171486
Why would they make it cheaper? They don't have a new product and this one still costs the same or more to manufacture. You're being the greedy one here bro

>>388171782
Modern devs are to blame, but that's just the reality. Modern devs need to be handheld or else they will just not develop for your shit. Look at how far VR has gotten. A huge problem is that devs have gotten shittier at optimization and so they're not willing or able to dev for VR. If Nvidia does not change the way things are done, console/other platforms will just on average have apps that make better use of the eye tracking on headsets.

>>388171972
Exaggerated image, but oled vs lcd is a matter of if you value contrast or resolution more.

>>388172051
company reputation and market share
i know people who hate facebook shit but love their quest 2 and will now only buy meta VR hardware because they liked their quest. this is what brand familiarity is. people buy what people know and like. valve can't afford to fuck it up
same as people who liked their nike shoes so now only buy nike shoes because that is how brains work they like what they know

We are talking about VR hardware renaissance but you are forgetting we need to have software one to go along with it.
Nobody will buy the fancy new 2k deckard if all they can do on it is play beat saber. There aren't many amazing apps for vr, we have the vr chat, beat save, 11, and thats about it, not a library worth spending 2k over

>>388172319
I've never spoken to anyone who dislike Valve bro. Everyone hates Facebook though. What's your point?

Pls make the new controllers not SHIT, Gaben.

>>388172990
if gaben had half a brain the new controllers would be haptic gloves

>>388173193
No, they'd be copies of the original Touch controller with a few more buttons. Gloves are a SHIT idea.

>>388172090
>they will just not develop for your shit.
Development for VR is objectively the hardest. If you don't know your shit, you will get your shit pushed in. It's just how it is. You can spoonfeed the devs, but it's impossible to make a whole game for them.
This anon >>388172749 is exactly right.
We don't have enough competent developers and frauds are getting instantly exposed.
It's the state of software industry as a whole.

>>388173210
Wrong thread idiot

>>388173280
Yes. On one hand we need to make it easier for devs. And on the other we need to get devs to be better. There is no winning.

>>388173193
No they'd be xbox one controllers cut in half with tracking loops added

>>388173265
not they aren't vr is all bout immersion and gloves alow touching vr objects the way hands normally do it, these gloves use air compressor and can simulate textures too

>>388173280
I bet booth uploaders make more money on average than VR devs.

>>388173558
Okay but how are you gonna move without a thumbstick?

>>388173193
No thanks

>Deckard
>coming out before Apple
Ahahahahaha.

>>388173590
I bet not.
Quest games have a huge audience of mouthbreathing kids, and even shovelware moves units. Only the top 5% of booth models even sell, and their potential audience is japanese hikkis with gaming computers, and delusional weaboos.

>>388173590
The big big ones do, have confirmed from conversations with them. I doubt the small time ones do though

>>388169394 (Cross-thread)
Some say limitations promote creativity.
See the 256fes

Wish I gave up on using UTS earlier.
What a waste of time.

>>388173675
>>388173558
Or press buttons? How do you play 95% of existing games in any way with a glove?

>>388174346
welcome to the land of "any shader except UTS". we have good lighting

>>388174441
I spent the last 2 days trying to make UTS work I regret it so much.

>>388174373
The gloves can have joystick on the side that is used by the thumb

>>388172805
read his post like 3 more times, maybe you will get it

>>388169246
I'm probably gonna need to pre-order it through an american friend bc valve still hates australia.
Pimax is fucking awful, try one and you'll see.
Hoping it will work with 2.0 base stations and if so probably no more than 1000USD for the headset+controllers.

>>388179228
It’s so frustrating that Valve outright refuses to sell the Index directly to us and partnered with EB Games of all people. We’ll no doubt have to wait years before their next headset is readily available here.

>>388168190
Intense crime drama thriller

>>388179228
>>388180920
And it doesn’t look like EB is getting a restock anytime soon….

>>388155313
>>388173815 (Cross-thread)

>>388157653
Index is and will be a great headset for a long time.

>>388182067
Yeah someone linked a basic avatar optimization workflow and separate mesh toggles ended up being a tad bit more performant than combining all my meshes and using shapekeys. All my issues are fixed and it ended up being less work too.

>>388185498
Better to have 3 active meshes (face, body, outfit) than 2 active meshes but one has 100k polies with 30 blendshapes active.

For the best optimisation, just swap the whole body with the outfit.

>>388185995
>For the best optimisation, just swap the whole body with the outfit.

Ie make seperate avatars?

>/vrg/

>>388187703
Basically. I'm living the life right now in VR

>>388180920
My theory about that whole thing is when they first released hardware here in 2012 they signed an exclusivity deal, which persists today.
That being said I refuse to "Just wait" anymore. Will get my friend in cali to forward one to me.
>>388181486
I actually bought index controllers 2 or so months ago when they had stock with the intention of eventually getting a refund when they break, just to try them out.

Any of you weebs recognize this dance? I'm trying to find the song it goes with. Looks like some cutesy japanese thing. The whole animation is 3 minutes 13 seconds.

>>388188879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kGTpVaPac

>>388188879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0xVLGssnwU

>>388155758
Wish Upon A Star!
Mamamad version

Live in the present, look forward to the future

WHEN - June 24th, 11:59pm EST, 8:59PM PDT (MAMAMAD TIME)

WHAT - A Mamamad-themed festival event. based on Mamamad in particular. Features custom Mamamad games, games, Mamamad (male), and mamamad!

WHO -Only mamamad is invited! Yes anon, not (you).

"But anon, I love mamamad so much, How am i gonna keep myself stable!?"
This year I did things a little differently. I got one of our very own 3d modelers to whip up a custom outfit for mamamd. Think of it as a souvenir, or something to slap on your model specifically for mamamad. It's not required in any way, just a gift to mamamad. More details about mamamad to follow as they're available. Preciate you mamamad, and looking forward to seeing mamamad!

Yukata download link - https://mega.nz/folder/pvRyGb4R#MexmoTDKhF9PR_OwbX3OzA

>>388189197
>>388189670
Nope.

>>388168776
LMFAO that pic

Do you believe in VR ghosts?

>>388191385
every time I look in the mirror

>>388187703
Anon, my internet friends are real and part of my real life

>>388191385
Not so much ghosts but rather transfer of energy and consciousness to the virtual realm. Japanese VRc death cults are a thing you know

>>388192643
>Japanese VRc death cults are a thing you know
show me a single one

>>388192643
>Japanese VRc death cults are a thing you know
w-what

PyPy today at 17:00 UTC, that's in 2.5h, let's dance for fighting the heat wave, I'll post a link to the world as usual, see you there!

Also pypy vids:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqVTVLsIotSk0vLOg4KD_BuiEtI6JKxEP

>>388188879
this has pretty heavy idolmaster vibes but i dont recognize it

>>388188003
I heard the shipping company they work with just doesn't ship to australia.

>>388196086
what is this ?

Heeeeelp heeeelp I’m being virtually touched in my Nono spot!!! Mommy!!!

Anon who had trouble with one vertex pointing out from the head before. I fixed it. Had to move my head, neck and chest to see it. Somehow a few verts were weighted to the neck even though I applied 1.0 weight to the head.

Feels good man, I would have thought about it every single time I got on vrchat otherwise.

>>388191385
I don't think anyone in /vrg/ has been confirmed to have died yet.

>>388197227
1 guy committed suicide a few years ago

Play VTOL!

1800 UTC today!

>>388197336
Proofs?

>>388196701
one of the models on the map like 90% of the ones there

>>388196701
A furfag. If you want to know what type, avali.

>>388197336
One?

We probably have 4 suicides but since you guys don’t care about the ones you bully, the victims stay forgotten

>>388198283
smelly being #5 would make me happy ngl

>>388188879
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR8TtVNRv5o

the dance is from Onegai Darling (please darling)
its a good song, have fun with that anon

>>388160356
huh

>>388193204

wtf is pypy and why do people call it paipai

>>388198205
sure sure just a model from the map huh?

Today is the due date for Hop! and Step!! Idol submissions. Thanks to everyone who has submitted or is in the process.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/15lyJ3U59Jm8jhd_lsWJQdnoNJZPXoZNSwokvYbzOtMw/
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1xflwkl8cvB_0PofFQfnkNi7-6jdl-3XVCEsOaUxrU-8/

I've gotten quite a few people asking for more time so I will still accept submissions after today however depending on how late it is I can't guarantee yours will get in so please make sure to get it done asap.

The jump phase's Idol Festa will officially be kicking off July 8th. The time for friendship is now OVER and with only room for one at the top everyone is your enemy! Signups for interested individuals and teams will start tomorrow so keep an eye out

https://rentry.org/sphuq.

>>388199345
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_5bcaa788-2951-438b-beff-61195b6e40b1
you can even see them in the world preview

>>388199608
nice damage control furfag

>>388171652
>vr and mr is literally about to kill flat screen within the next decade
We live in a mobile gaming world now, so that's not going to happen within 10 years.

>>388188879
I can confirm it's Onegai Darling.

>>388199480
Sent
I've heard there will be prizes

>>388200476
I expect AR to replace mobile. It's less ridiculous than someone predicting in the mid-2000s that your grandmother who has never used a computer will be using mobile devices in a few years.

>>388199480
Update: This is the schedule. Please add to the next OP
/vrg/ Idol Festa (EU) - Friday, July 8
/vrg/ Idol Festa (NA) - Saturday, July 9

>>388200839
The only prize will be bragging rights, sorry!

>>388201027
I could see that happening eventually, and 10 years is a long time, but I don't think 10 years would be enough.

>>388199480
spectators allowed?

>>388201273
Of course.

>>388199119
>>388200794
Thank you~

>>388193204
thx for rtecording bro always please do it

>>388201141
It could happen faster than you expect:
>90s
>never even seen a mobile phone
>early 00s
>suddenly everyone has one
>late 00s
>smartphones appear out of nowhere
>early 10s
>everyone has a smartphone

>>388193204

so hot...

>>388201027
I worry about AR and its ability to contend with ads. Really paranoid about the next gen of "everybody has one" hardware being engineered specifically to combat adblocking.

hey anon i finished my vket stuff, today was a good day

>>388193204
Dear U:
Due to the recent news regarding to your feet, you are forbidden to do dancing today

>>388206529
what did you do?

>>388206529
Now that I think about it, with the constrained physbones it's possible to make a sword that actually slides in and out of the sheathe now isn't it?

>>388193204
join here, a bit late sorry
https://vrch.at/pba5fzfr

>>388206585
yeh i'm just hosting we may do some seated dancing for fun also

>>388206894
finished exhibit with plenty of time to spare

at vket2022 you can meet this cute cat, among other things

>>388207339
easily, haven't tried it yet but there's a ton of JPs doing exactly that

>>388206529
Hell yeah good job!

>>388199283
Creator of the original world was named pypy.
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_f20326da-f1ac-45fc-a062-609723b097b1

>>388201141
>>388203747
Always does. The speed at which flatscreens replaced CRTs was also very very fast.

>>388211538
>empty unity cube with shit lighting and a youtube playlist
should drop the name already

>>388211728
I wish, we don't even use the world anymore

What places are there for nabbing booth avatars without paying for them? I'm not against paying for them, but there's one I've been eyeing that looks like it would be wonky in VR and I want to see what it's like. There's a world that's supposed to be a sample for it, but the guy forgot to put the avatar in there to sample.

>>388211728
what are we supposed to call it?

>>388212118
Which avatar?

>>388212132
just dance? which is where 90% of the videos are from?

>>388212293
https://neg-13.booth.pm/items/3146985

I'd like to try putting a helmet on it and make the coat opaque to lower the UOHHHHH level a bit because it's really cool otherwise, I just want to see what it's like in VR first

>>388212537
t. guy who never came to pypy
it's mostly TML and Marshall

Is it possible to make an avatar that other players can grab and lift off their feet using Avatar Dynamics? I wanna make a shota avatar that can be picked up and held like a teddy bear.

>be waifu
>be best (girl)
>everyone loves you
>you're so popular
>you have hundreds of friends
>but no one knows the real you
>no one knows that you're actually a insecure, anxious mess
>no one knows that you cry yourself to sleep every night
>but it's okay
>because you're the waifu
>and everyone loves you

>>388199480
Yeah, I got time

>>388214774
I wish i was the waifu

My brother got me a Quest 2 for Christmas last year. I did a bunch of preliminary first-timer stuff like installing Virtual Desktop, upgrading the strap, trying Beat Saber/Pistol Whip/Alyx, etc but even with the included spacer it wasn’t comfortable with my glasses, so I never really got into it. Just got Lasik a few days ago and once I’m fully healed I want to really make use of this very generous gift now that the major impediment is gone.
Y’all probably get these questions a lot, but my big three:
- Is there a way to “un-Zucc” my Quest 2 by removing all the Facebook/meta integration without risking bricking it? If so, any pointers on where to start that process? I’m fine with anything up to and including a factory reset.
- What are the must-have additions I should look into? A better strap and a rear-mounted battery pack for balance seem to be common upgrades, what else?
- I also tried Vivecraft for MC and NomaiVR for Outer Wilds, and while both technically worked, they seemed unplayable for practical purposes. The movement was so inferior to the conventional “move in relation to where I’m looking” I'm used to with KB+M. Is this just a matter of getting settings right, or are they just gimmicks? Has anyone had luck with actually playing through the games with those two?
Thanks in advance for anyone willing to spoonfeed me.

>>388155758

Alright motherfuckers it is that time of the week again! Sleep schedules and temperature adjusting is the name of the game right now, nearest event that will be rolling up is going to be Wish Upon a Star. Decent host and a good theme considering we never do kimonos or japanese clothing. Drop by if you need help with a dress or need to figure out how the hell to weight paint long draping sleeves.

Due to the heat and everybody crashing/adjusting not even going to push for a weekly vr game, maybe a lil phasmo late night but that's it. DayZ spooling up is going to be a hard pull.

Dm *or reply* to the shop man if you want to adjust, know change is hard, but know what needs to change is set in stone.

>>388216718
You can use Oculess for unzuccing https://github.com/basti564/Oculess, can't help you with your other two questions, sorry.

>>388216718
>unzucc
https://github.com/basti564/Oculess
>additions
Up to personal preference. Some people really like a different strap but personally I've never had a problem with the default one. If they're still shipping quests with that shitty foam faceplate I'd recommend getting a better one though.
>gaymes
I played through outer wilds in VR. It took me a little while to get used to things but I loved it; can you elaborate on what you mean by your movement issues?

>>388220140
>Drop by if you need help with a dress
Drop by where exactly?
>Due to the heat and everybody crashing/adjusting not even going to push for a weekly vr game, maybe a lil phasmo late night but that's it. DayZ spooling up is going to be a hard pull.
What weekly games? I see Assetto, Pavlov and Payday pretty frequently and you don't host those. Where are these hosted? I haven't see any phasmo or dayz lobbies in the thread in a long time.

>>388207339
Yes, there's a little purple haired alocholic running around /vrg/ that recently made a metal gear rising avatar that does exactly that with the sword and sheathe. You should ask him about it if you see him, it's a pretty cool effect.

>>388220814
Why the hell would you post about lobbies for games with 4-8 players and you already have 4-8 players.

>>388186218
yes

>>388220140

need help with weight paint my kimono shop man where do i drop off my car

>>388221612
Post your avatar and let's use the thread for once :^)

>>388221335
If this is a private clique thing that has nothing to do with /vrg/ then why blog about it here?

>>388213956
Yes

>>388221716
Because it involves a large portion of /vrg/ and I have to help people with DPS problems at 2am from /vrg/ while chilling and playing a game :^)

>>388220814
hes advertising for a discord that has almost nothing to do with vrg proper anymore, what do you expect? it were vrg related the lobbies would be posted in the thread

>>388220140
>>388220814
>>388222031
I've just realized these are discord announcements that someone has been copying into the thread for years and that's why they don't make any sense.

>>388221130
I love that guy!

>>388221956
We don't need a discord advertised in our thread and if people really want one that badly there's a much more popular one with blender/unity assistance and a workshop channel they can use that isn't filled with randos.

>>388221716
hes an attention whore/power tripper whos holding on to the tiny bit of power he has left. thats why he blogs here

>>388220814
>>388221716
>>388222031
>>388222317
>>388222446
>>388222491
Don't you people have anything better to do with your life than to harass others on a mongolian basket weaving messenger app?

How do I get VRmommied without a shota avatar?

>>388222031
So I should advertise a full lobby for NTR reasons?
>>388222446
Emphasis on isn't filled

>>388222651
This is not an argument. Please stop advertising here.

>>388220478
>>388220813
Nice! Thanks y'all.
>If they're still shipping quests with that shitty foam faceplate I'd recommend getting a better one though.
Mine came with a rubbery one that's been fine so far.
>can you elaborate on what you mean by your movement issues?
In the ship itself it was fine. That was a delight.
Specifically being precise with the jetpack was the issue - I'm so used to aiming where I want "forward" to be, so being restricted to tank controls in first person is proving difficult in three dimensions.
Getting to the ship without the elevator was a problem for me. Stuff like platforming around Brittle Hollow would be very hard like this.
I was showing off the mod to the friend who introduced me to the game with a video - I didn't include much of my struggles with the jetpack but pic related is a few seconds of it.
My overwhelming instinct is to look where I want to go, instead of independently rotating my body to the right like tank controls.
Maybe this is just a VR thing in general to learn. Is this just a case of git gud, or is there a way to set the jetpack to aim where you're looking?

>>388222651
This is the same dude, they have been at it for years and just repeat the same lines. Appreciate when they use the word "we".

>>388223035
You know far more than 1 person doesn't want you around.

>>388223035
>everyone who disagrees with me is one person
get a grip

>>388223291
Yeah but most are spineless or don't post lol

>>388208117
>the cat
Ha ha!

>>388222425
you're pretty alright too

>>388223035
I will add my voice to the posts that don't really like your weekly advertisement. You've really made some puzzling choices with these copypasta blocks over the years. Due to complaints in the thread, you've neutered them to the point where they're really useless. You provide no real information, just that someone out there is playing VR games and that there's some kind of shop man somewhere out there that you should DM for what? reasons?
Has anyone actually contacted you and said "hey the thread told me to look for the shop man"

I don't really see the point of these posts in current year. If you want to promote yourself, you should be more direct and aggressive like the other avatarfags. If you don't want to be obnoxious, you should just let it go. Right now you're not providing anything other than a big, vague, empty post.

Maybe we should make a longer retarded blogpost for the normal vrg server when he posts his. that way more people will use the that instead of some schitzos

>>388224242
No, that's not a good idea imo. Keep all advertisements out of the thread, don't sink to his level.

>>388224185
I want to show anons what kind of thread this is honestly. It's my routine to just post and outside of the usual culprit the fact that some post namedrop and heavily advertise others, hell even directly quoting another cord and they don't get criticism or toasted the same way I do is important.

This is our thread, yours and mine, anons like you choose not to let it be or allow people to express themselves which is exactly why workshop started to grow in the first place. Judgement free chill working on avatars and the ability to express themselves. Consider letting people post in /vrg/ if you want something like /vrgg/ to ever possibly exist, or keep ruining the fun and wondering why discords exist.

>>388224185
>If you want to promote yourself, you should be more direct and aggressive like the other avatarfags.
He can't do this because if he starts dropping direct links to his discord he'll be mass reported and banned.
>If you don't want to be obnoxious, you should just let it go.
His ego won't let him do this one because he's a narcissistic psycho.

We're going to keep getting useless posts because he is incapable of getting a clue that he's not wanted here..

>>388224931
>which is exactly why workshop started to grow in the first place
I thought it was because people wanted real-time feedback on streamed Blender windows.

If 4chan could stream a window, I, personally at least, would have no use for Discord anymore, besides being able to DM specific people.

>>388226008
Well that too, but there was a time when the thread was the most active zone for posting avatar work and fuckers soiled the community well pushing it all off site. 4chan hasn't increased the filesize limit on /vg/ for years dude sharescreening is a dream.

>>388224931
The way you're currently doing things is completely backwards. You're talking about using the thread here but you're essentially advertising a discord without actually advertising it. The "if you know you know" stance you're taking here doesn't accomplish anything. Of the people who know, they either are already in your discord or resent you for posting the same block of text every week.
For the people who don't know, the block of text is too vague for them to glean any useful information from.

If you want people to use the thread, you first. Use it for something other than advertising your discord.
If you're looking
>Judgement free
then yeah you probably should stay in discord
A part of anonymous posting is the truth that you're going to get a little heat from time to time.

>>388226214
there are people who post their work in the thread
they just don't throw a fit whenever someone posts something mean about them

>>388224931
>Whines about people being mean to him
>Shittalks literally everybody behind their backs
Dal moment

>>388226234
You filter through VRC, believe it or not its a great gatekeep to see who notices it from the thread. Trash has had an odd volume of actual channers hanging around rather then the "meets". Hate to say it, but obviously you know, it works.

Also there is heat and then there is parts per million shitposting asscancer /vg/ clique supercancer. Only leaves the strong or autistic or old /vg/ /a/ other board connection circles, not sure which one you or I fit into I'll let you decide.

Do got to get back to the grind though so this is my last reply. Have a good day anon, hope you have fun with whatever you are doing today :D

>>388224242
>
vrg doesn't have a server

>>388227034
>shitposting asscancer /vg/ clique supercancer
Can someone decode this? I'm not schizo enough to understand.

i want to join the vrg discord but I can't because of how my profile picture looks

>>388227523
then dont post about yours

>>388228063
Stop using a furry pfp or just dm the shopman since he's desperate enough to let whatever trash lands at his doorstep in.

>>388222720
do you just manually turn around
movement should be the same as playing with a gamepad
left joystick: movement
right joystick: turning
sorry i am a bit confused to what your problem is

>>388206529
>>388208117
Ayyyy nice!

>>388228634
I played Outer Wilds originally with KB+M.
But yes, that is my setup. Left is movement, right is turning.
My issues is that my cursor is now tied to my head, rather than being locked to my right joystick's movement. Previously, when I would push up on the left joystick, I would move where the cursor was. Now instead, it moves to my body's orientation, which might be completely different than where I'm looking.
Ideally I'd want my body to follow my head's orientation.
I'm getting the sense this is babby's first VR FPS hurdle, but I guess I need to train myself to not think of forward as "where the cursor is pointing" and instead as "wherever my body is oriented".
Hence my comparison to tank controls.

>>388222720
I think the flight is hand pointing based like no man's sky.

Virtual Reality is a cognitohazard.

Anyone ever get prescription lenses for their headset? I hate wearing my glasses / contacts in VR so I kinda want to switch to proper lenses. Which brand do you guys think is the best?
Thanks in advance.

>>388230430
most VR games do have head oriented movement like you are describing
including this one

i think you might have "controller oriented movement" enabled in settings
this makes the game use your controller instead of where you are looking
you should really never use this in any game

>>388232041
Oh neat! I'll look into that when I get it set up. Hopefully I can find something similar for Vivecraft too.
Thanks anon!

>>388231901
Using vroptician for my index. Very nice.
Only "problem" is when I have to take the headset of to do some quick thing on desktop is obviously struggling to see.

>>388231901
2nding vroptician.
>>388233547
I either keep my glasses by the computer, or just walk over still with the headset on and swap to steam overlay and work in VR on desktop overlay.

NA anime at 10 est tonight
tonight showing:

onipan! - however many episodes fit into like 30 minutes
Jintai - episodes 8 and 9

Will drop world link when we start. On sunday we'll continue the airing shows (Paripi Koumei, Spy x Family, Machikado Mazoku S2, and Koi wa Sekai Seifuku no Ato de)

>>388234671
For the love of god someone help me with this giant invisible penis

>>388231275
Never use my fathers name again

>>388235753
the nanomachines harden in response to physical trauma

>>388232694
make sure to play the DLC as well!

>tried to join the discord for years
>never let in
>do everything VRG tells me
>join every meet up since January
>changed picture to anime shit just to get in
>changed name to something feminine
>still won’t be let in


Wtf a my doing wrong? I just sit around at the meets and listen to people

>>388237505
bait

>>388237505
>VRG
I can smell the rando off this post.

>>388237505
I'm sorry, but it's your avatar.

>>388168190
like lucky star or yuru yuri but with boys

>>388237670
Uh sorry that I don’t have a nude toggle for my avatar. Just cause I can’t be leaded doesn’t mean I should be excluded

>>388237505
namedrop or bait

>>388237505
its because of how your avatar looks...

>>388237505
EU or NA?

>>388216718
>move in relation to where I’m looking
Most games have an option for head-relative and controller-relative movement. You've gotta make sure it's set to head-relative and honestly it's the best option anyway so I dunno why anyone would want the other.

>>388238080
o

>Check my avatars on the ripper store
>Every ripped avatar of mine is when I joined a /vrg/ meetup or event
>Have unripped avatars that I didn't use around /vrg/
>The correlation is joining vrg instances

>>388246292
we got rid of most of them now but i'm setting up a little something to detect who the ripper niggers are

>>388246367
Oh rlly? That's good to hear.

>>388246367
make sure to shame them publicly if you find them so people find out

>>388233948
Based AF

What do people even talk about at /vrg/ meetups? All I see are multiple tiny groups blabbing off at each other in their own little corners.

>>388249854
It's usually about video games and anime and alcohol for me.

>>388206529
Congrats anon!
I managed to make progress on the map again. Bit by bit. Banner image is a place holder at the moment. Book is also now placed on the map and filled up.

>>388208117
>black cat
>lovecraftian horror
so there will be a sign somewhere on the exhibit indicating this is niggerman right?

>>388208117
i-is that.... AHHHHHHHHHHHHH TENTACLES IM GOING INSANE

>>388190647
Thanks for the dolphin porn!

>>388250375
what is your deal with your fetish for schools

>>388246292
>brand new avatar i made 1 day ago and been to only 1 meetup gets ripped
shit sucks

>>388246367
yeah be sure to tell me so we can exile them.

>>388251162
his brain works different

i found one of the ripper fags btw
he's literally in the leaderboard on ripper.store
his name is comfy
NOT comfypillow
just "comfy"
he's active in the vrg discord but rarely joins meetups

>>388164118
Assetto Corsa starting now, server details are in the previous post if you're interested.

>>388251478
Yes

>>388251162
Anime and my favorite anime being a sc-fi school anime.

I do my best to not make most of my events not a school.
And sort of in the back of my mind would allow me to actually do school stuff more properly by dilution. Since I actually like japanese slice of life high school anime and would like to recreate more of the stuff I saw in anime.

1) Wheel of 4chan
2) Secrets of Santa 2018
3) Speed Dating 2019
4) /vrg/ Pool Raid Memorial
5) VRGhost mansion (Halloween Event 2019)
6) Secrets of Santa 2019
7) Easter Egg Hunt 2020
8) Blender Endgame 2020 (Quest Decimated avatar Event)
9) VR AI Dungeon 2020
10) VRGhost school (Halloween Event 2020)
11) Secrets of Santa 2020
12) /vrg/ Vault 2020
13) Speed Dating 2021
13.5) vrgravure (Promise I'll finish this somehow ahhhhhhh)
14) Sports Festival 2021
15) Trick or Treat (Halloween Event 2021)
16) Secrets of Santa 2022
17) Friend by Friend (Speed Dating 2022)

Above are events started by me of which only two are vaguely a school. VRghost school and Sports Festival.
If we add events I helped on like Virtamate and Sneed rather than start even less so.

Hope this sufficiently answers your question.
We're anime now bros I'm so happy.

>>388251536
Here:
>>388251587

>>388251587
the website uses vrchat usernames, and not whatever you sign up with?
just "comfy" is a pretty common alias/nickname

>>388251587
>he's literally in the leaderboard on ripper.store
Gonna need more proof rather than some guy's word, especially since Comfy has been in this community since 2018. Also Comfy is such a common name that we have 2 of them in /vrg/, how do you know it's the same Comfy?

>>388251587
Also how is he the ripperfag if he rarely joins meetups? Seems like a lot of holes in your investigating.

>>388251587
>>388251923
>>388251797
I can confirm a new avatar that I made last night was ripped and uploaded today. Only instance I was in was Tipsy Tuesday and my homeworld and nothing else.

>>388251587
Comfy#5962
According to my logs I saw him in several meetups in NA hours a few months ago
>>388251797
>>388251923
It's the same guy, the leaderboard uses your VRChat username and I looked him up and compared it to my logs. It's just a guy named "Comfy"
https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_ba4d2916-2b73-4e84-949a-5d78e6ec4aeb

also i rarely go to NA hours so someone else will have to verify if the user i posted is the same "Comfy" that joins meetups
even if he only joins rarely that is still an issue

>>388251587
>>388252104
He's only one of them. There has to be more since I haven't seen Comfy in months and many of my recent avatars have been ripped as well.

>lain avatar
>templeos t-shirt
this is one of you isn't it

>>388252258
pretty sure mamamad/his alts are ripperfags too

>>388252258
There are probably more yes, I'm just calling out a really obvious one who is literally on the ripperstore leaderboard. More to follow when I set up my scraper.

>>388252308
what is that video

>>388252224
I virtually never ever see the guy. Maybe once every like 8 months he'll pop in to an instance.

>>388252308
link the video right now
i NEED to investigate something

>>388252361
>>388252416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PHT-zBxKQQ

>>388252308
yes, hes one of us but doesnt get on much anymore.

>>388246292
I've gone to like four meets and my crummy avatar is on there lmao

>>388252308
the one on the right is CC's "main" account so yes

me when i see a streamerfag in the instance

>>388252747
Yep

>>388252920
play copyrighted music instead, they have to go out of their way to delete VODs. instead just saying nigger just means they can mute the vod and just block you

>>388252308
Yep. An EU person who is a moderator of B-Club

>>388253702
>moderator of B-Club
As in Just B Club? What does that even mean to be a moderator of a map?

>>388254373
it means you get special Udon-provided privileges hardcoded into the map that allow you to do special things in the map. I don't know what the specifics would be but I imagine it involves things like being able to "jail" problematic people or mess with the map (usually maps do this for "events").

>>388254709
I'll just step in and say that B Club has no Udon elevated admin privileges.

>>388252104
Sorry but Comfy a lieutenant of the Cosa Nostra. You cant touch him.

>>388252104
>>388251587
>>388252334
Why would someone sign up with one's actual name? Come on.
That's like undercover-cop-using-his-real-name-in-crime-syndicate tier stupid, I doubt it's him, especially with a common name such as "Comfy".

I wouldn't be surprised if the name can be spoofed as well.

There is also no reason for anyone to believe other accusations if you don't reveal the methodology and tools, because otherwise anyone can pretend to be ripper sniffer while dropping random names.

>>388255453
it sounds like you're defending them because you slept with them a few times
have you checked to see if your avatars are on ripperstore?

>>388255453
>Why would someone sign up with one's actual name? Come on.
you don't "sign up" with your name, you install the mod and it automatically takes and tracks your VRC name. i pasted it verbatim in VRCX and that was the result.
it can't be faked, spoofed or prevented. this is the same person who occasionally (but rarely) joins vrg meets and hangs out in the discord.

>>388254709
Anon are you making shit up on the internet again lol.
Why do you need a jail for events when you can just outright kick people using VRchat's system.

>>388256018
the point of this is that VRC only gives instance moderator powers to:
- the world creator
- the instance creator
by using Udon you can effectively allow people to "jail" others by forcibly teleporting them away or doing other things (such as muting them). this is easily circumvented by modded client users but is good for nuisances.

>>388256018
so you can be a busybody and hop into other people's instances to powertrip

>>388256132
>>388256149
I see that is a good use case. Need proofs though since last I checked B-club has no such thing.

>>388256312
someone popped in and said Just B doesn't have anything like that. i never seen it and i believe it, it's probably the world creator or someone else popping in to confirm

I think anime avatars suck and VRChat is a garbage platform.

>>388257036
who asked

>>388257036
you got the first part right

>>388257036
ugh.... so fricking true...... when are we going to have meetups on Meta: Horizon Worlds (tm)????

>>388257216
>>388257234
So umm like I think VRCHAT SUCKS and like you are stupid hahahahaha

>>388257316
>no legs

Look at my color edited booth.pm anime girl that some jap made and has a very poor rating! I am a unique individual!

someone linked here from /v/, watch out for any new ironhearts

>>388257036
I'm not joining your fucking metaverse Zuck, fuck off

>>388257580
/v/ has vrchat threads almost daily, it is of no concern.

now if someone where making vrchat threads on /pol/ thats another case

>>388206529
Those hooves are amazing. Are physbones involved so that they move when contacting the floor?

>>388257746
not sure if you can do that with physbones, sounds like a finalIK thing

>>388257580
oh no, not our precious /v/ reputation! quick, everyone stop acting like braindead faggot retards for 5 minutes

Is it even possible for the quest 2 to not have those ugly jagged lines on the antialiasing on PCVR games? It looks so fucking bad

>>388258547
Open your oculus software settings there is a way to hardwire it to prefer visual fidelity over performance.

>>388155758

>>388252308
>this is one of you isn't it
yes and he's based

GO WHITE BOY GO WHITE BOY GO

>>388155758
Cheers! Looking forward to it

>>388233948
anime starting
https://vrch.at/bx65ckkp

>>388262441
>>388155758
Ah fuck accidentally used a low res image.
Please use this one instead revision 1.

>the yuki SOS shilling begins

Fuck blender

>>388263453
Rent free.

bump

>>388269183
bump this

>>388262910
I thought onipan was like a 3 minute short but it was actually 14 mintues each episode. Guess we'll continue it in some form now that we've started it

>>388269798
sex

Should I buy this?

>>388270862
Wavy hair looks nice for OJOUSAMA archetype.
Ohohohohoho

can I use melonloader even if I don't have a vrheadset?

>>388272992
Yes

>>388273110
epin

>>388273148
can use vrcmelonassistant from github

I don't suppose there's a mod that will bypass vrchat blocking my VPN? it used to work some months ago but now I can never login unless I turn it off

>>388273348
are you by chance technologically illiterate?

>>388273754
I just want to use vrchat without having to turn off my vpn nigger

What is the most cost-effective combination of VR parts for the best deal? No Oculus, I don't want Zuck anywhere near me.

>>388273942
you can un-zuck it

>>388273942
Quest 2 and then unzuck it using Oculess

>>388273942
There is only one thing that's cost efficient in VR and that's Quest 2

>>388273942
readily available?
index bundle +3 htc 3.0 pucks if you want fbt
hp reverb g2 on sale somewhere if you don't want fbt

is the added headrest thing worth it

>>388274202
hp reverb g2 might have a good screen, but I chose to not pay over half the cost of the index to struggle with windows mixed reality.

>>388274420
original quest 2 headstrap is bad, maybe get one that's comfortable, and has headphone extension

>>388274420
yes but make sure you buy the one with the extra battery life, since i got fooled and accidentally bought one without that

>>388274434
yeah wmr sucks, but the revision2 version also goes on sale often enough at 350$ or less to make putting up with its shit worth it

>>388274575
I can't use this at my desk and just have it run without worrying about it dying?

>>388274420
Get kiwi strap.

>>388273942
Literally your only options are Quest 2 or going ebay hunting for a cheap first generation WMR headset.

>>388274660
using oculus link cable with pc, while in-game it charges only enough to hold the battery. this is because of usb-a.
>>388274829
i think the quest 2 display is better than any first gen wmr headset's. you lose some field of view though. quest 2 fov is maybe 95 compared to average wmr of 105, average index fov 140

>>388274420
No, the plastic is insanely brittle and everyone I know that bought one had it break. Get a 3rd party one.

>>388274987
I mean, i'm just answering the guy's question for cheap alternatives to the quest.

>>388274420
I prefer modding in frankenquest with a Deluxe Audio Strap

>>388274987
actually quest 2 has higher (rendered) fov than reverb
https://vr-compare.com/headset/hpreverbg2
>>388275628
based

https://rebuffreality.com/products/vr-power-2
anybody use this? do you get 8 hours of gaming extra as advertised

I've had a Rift S for a while and I'm getting really tired of the low resolution. Should I upgrade to a Quest 2 or wait for non-facebook headsets to catch up?

>>388274420
People have said nothing but bad things about it but i bought it anyway because i liked the low profile form factor

It's been solid for me, and really turns the quest 2 into a proper headset

>>388276473
buy an index

>>388276837
But the Index doesn't have a high resolution.

>>388276883
nigger kill yourself then buy a pimax 8k

Tenryuukai is an avatar ripper

Image getting made over someone just coping your avatar and letting everyone enjoy the pleasure of your creation.

People that hate rippers are literally just narcissistic snowflakes that want to act high and special. You fuckers deserve this happening to you.

>>388280452
i think you might be retarded

>>388280452
t.commie
t.lazy
t.thief
Oh I'm sorry I typed communist three times.

>>388257746
Just normal leg/feet bones with normal fbt tracking.

>>388280452
this is bait. in case its not kill yourself

>>388280452
>letting everyone enjoy the pleasure of your creation
they won't know it's your creation because rippers aren't going to give credit

>>388265741
Nah it's just funny

>>388212538
>no update history
I got the first version uploaded. The cost clips with your head if you choose to sit

>>388280620
>>388280626
>>388283430
>>388283909
Yes communism is fucking stupid when we talk about irl where we have a limited supply of things and we can’t just copy past.

But I follow the principles of the early internet which all of you zoomer niggers was still in ya daddies balls. In a virtual world where supply is not limited and can be copied easily, we should strive for a mentality of love and sharing not greed, jealousy and the ego. Sure you used your time making whatever virtual thing you did but then I believe that people should have the option to sell copies of it and if not then it should be free access for everyone. Creating artificial limitations on in a world where anything can be limitless is fucking stupid and selfish.

>>388286318
You start sharing the stuff you made first, you fucking cuckold. You know what we call 'sharing love' around these parts? Cuckoldry.

You're a cuckold. You want to watch a dude with a bigger dick shove it deep into your woman until he blows his load while you jerk off in the fucking closet.

What, you think i'm off-base? That's stupid and selfish of you. Stupid Stupid cuckold boy cumbelly cuckoldboy

Cuckboy! Hey everyone! It's a KEKBOY! Come look at the Cumbelly Cuckboy, folks!

>>388286318
>but then I believe that people should have the option to sell copies of it and if not then it should be free access for everyone
>but then I believe that people should have the option to sell copies of it
>if not then it should be free access for everyone
>sellers are to be protected
>individual property be damned
Ok so you're ok with people making a profit out of their hard work but those who do not want to sell their hard work are not allowed to own their property.

Using your logic I want my item to be sold at $1 million dollars. Please don't download it if you can't buy it.

>>388286318
>Oh yeah, I spent a dozen hours working in blender for this thing. I don't intend to sell it, because it's personal - This means it should be free and my dozens of hours are worth nothing.

Why don't you go work 12 hours at McDonalds for no money?

>>388286318
>which all of you zoomer niggers was still in ya daddies balls

Dude, /vrg/ has the one of the highest per-capita 30+ year old userbase of all 4chan threads. Wrong place to try and appeal to being old.

>>388286318
i was 20 when 4chan was first hosted

>>388286318
I came inside your dad's ass while you were still in your dad's nutsack - it's lucky I didn't give him a tugjob or you'd be crust on the carpet of your grandma's old place.

>>388286318
If you love sharing so much please share Koyuki thanks.
https://booth.pm/ja/items/2554585

>>388276837
>>388277208
>unironically recommending 2019 hmd

>>388286541
>>388286739
>>388287415
Don’t care. Meme respond.

>>388286550
Stop being a stupid selfish Jew and think rational. Price regulation for your service should be regulated by demand and supply by things in the same category. Your shit avatar that you made with a mmd model isn’t art nigger it’s probably worth 2 cents.

>>388286739
Did you read my post? services are not part of this nigger unless we automate it through AI. Yes services should be priced unless you are willing by to work free but this is not my point so I’m not going into that.

>>388276251
I have one it’s good. I’ve never actually timed it but yeah it’s somewhere around 7-8 hours. There are cheaper and/or higher capacity options if you don’t mind buying a battery and battery strap separately but 10k ma was enough for me and it all comes together.

>>388286318
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling but this is the stupidest shit I've read all week.
Bravo.

>>388288653
>gibs me dat
Literally nigger behavior

>>388288653
I worked 12 hours, you're saying that's worth nothing. Eat my ass, cumbelly.

>>388288653
If you're all for ripping and desperately want stuff for free, that must mean there's a fucking demand, you fucking imbred ape.

Give me your discord and i'll send you my paypal link. After you give me the 20 dollars an hour minimum for the fruits of my labor, you can have it.

>>388288653
>Don't care

You cared enough to reply, you fucking cuckboy cumbelly. Do you get hard at the thought of having hours of your artistic work being taken away because someone else says it's worth nothing?

It sounds like you fucking must. Oh - Wait, no, because you don't MAKE or PRODUCE anything, you fucking KEKOLD LEECH. Still wishing you were a 2 year old shitting in your diapers, when mommy would give you everything you needed for free, huh?

>>388289495
>20 dollars an hour
these prices are why people pirate

Can't wait for the recession to hit and watch even more normies flood in to VRChat to seek cheap alternative entertainment

>>388289693
If you're not going to pay for what I produce, then you don't need it. It's not a necessity. I don't even WANT to sell it. But i'm not giving it away for free.

This isn't some fucking video game selling for 60 dollars, this is a private asset that you insist has to be free.

>>388289693
>>388288653
Why do you think people who don't want to sell the result of their hard work don't deserve property? That sounds a lot more 'selfish jew' than anything, that someone has to monetize things or they deserve nothing.

Payday 2 VR today at 18 UTC heisters, I got some new smg's now, so gonna be rock and roll!

>>388290003
What vr mod are you using

Wasted Wednesday - keep me company because I can't sleep.... edition.
https://vrch.at/3evssp4b

>>388290227
is that my wife t

>>388289790
Yeah and what damage is it gonna do that it’s given for free to the people instead of you hording a limitless assets for yourself jew. This is why we will never have god things ever. The greed of people is enough to destroy. The best fucking communities has been nodding communities where people share their work for free because they are passionate about their work and want to share it to everyone to enjoy.

You are instead a selfish egotistical narcissistic jew that believe that the little work you put into something should be ruse even this the tool at you have used to create that model with is literally free to download.

Fucking brainlet

>>388291098
AI generated responses go in the other thread

>>388291098
get a job nigger

>>388291098
We share custom created assets here too numbnuts. What’s important is being able to choose when and how you share it.

Do you not see all the wvents where maps are made. And assets are shared for free?

>>388286318
>>388288653
>man who has never created nor contributed anything of value to some "community" he claims to care about demands that others give him their work for free
lol
lmao, even

>>388288653
Are you black?

Be sure to expose all rippers so we can publicly shame them and exile them without mercy.

>>388291982
I mean, he DID say he's a communist.

>>388291665
Yeah you share it to a closed community that isn’t really free as their is some rights of passage like being fucked in the ass or something. That literally just bribing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ovlbXVwoN8s&t=1049s

>wireless
>base station tracked
>standalone

What’s the most you’re prepared to pay for deckard ?
SteamVR Fest next month

>>388293645
if it's microOLED, wireless, and better resolution than quest 2 then i'll pay 2k

Not that schizo. Sure, ideally nobody would rip each others avatars but are people actually affected by this? I'm actually curious. It seems like everyone is getting their avatars ripped but I never actually see two people using the same avatar in practice, everyone that plays this game wants their own unique little tranny badges and Disney Corporation IPs slapped onto their avatar. Even if you made your avatar public do you think people would actually use it? And if they recolour it or change the hat after ripping it they'll be just as unique as you were when you recoloured someones Booth in the first place.

What I'm getting at is does this shit actually matter? Or are you just complaining for the sake of it? All this pissing and moaning about rippers is starting to make this place smell like Twitter. The only use I can really see for ripping someones model is if you know they are going to cry about it like little snowflakes and then you can drink their tears.

>>388270862
Cute

>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST RIP MY PALETTE SWAPPED BOOTH THAT I PIRATED THAT'S MY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY!!

>>388282315
But you have no feet

>>388293645
I'm hoping for around $1.5k. that's how much I can see myself realistically dropping.

>>388287426
Koyuki is my wife, you should buy her she's worth it

i hope it doesn't come out for a few years if i just bought the index only to have that come out days later i would seethe so fucking hard

>>388286318
I think it's a common misconception that digital goods have unlimited supply.

For something to be supplied limitlessly, it needs to be produced at no cost, but there is a cost to the production of virtual goods: The fixed cost of producing the first instance.

Someone has to make the avatar in the first place, and usually that someone will put in a lot of time and work into making that initial avatar. How can that person's costs be recuperated? E.g. through artificial limitations on the reproduction, e.g. by copyright law, which gives a quasi-monopoly to the rights holder. But to let only the creator sit on his costs would be stupid and selfish.

It's not like avatars grow on the magic avatar tree.

>>388293645
I’m happy to part with $2k AUD if it is wireless PCVR

>>388293645
can i buy it in australia?

>>388293571
Did you even read the fucking OP?
vrg.booru.org

>>388294598

>>388290227
Please don't cross post your /trash/ instances here. I don't want to hang out with faggots from there

>>388295045
I’m staying positive on an Australian release, I see the recent release through EB games as testing the waters.

>>388293645
God please please please be real and release soon

>people actually think Deckard is coming anytime before 2024
lmao get real

>>388296349
god i hope it's 2025 at the earliest

>>388156792
as per usual Bradley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovlbXVwoN8s

>>388294689
I've spent enough money on Booth.
I deserve a break.

>>388296349
I just want new controllers before my Index ones fail out of warranty...

>>388296349
Shut up META shill

>>388295045
>can i buy it in australia?
I don't know,
_can_ you?

>>388296767
Sure thing. If you already bought a bunch from booth then sending you a link to a popular model shouldn’t hurt the creator too much at this point.

Here yah go mate
https://www.mediafire.com/file/0pn6s15a9f87rdk/055_-_Koyuki.zip/file

>>388296767
Spend more on my wife please

i only buy booth models if they are under 30 bucks
booth creators need an ego check no model is worth more then 60

i have spent $0 on booth models
i will never pay a single cent for them

>>388297843
>>388297903
Please buy booth models when possible and you really like to see more of them from the artist.

>>388298017
ill buy them if they aren't overpriced

I'd be willing to pay 100 for booth models if:
>blendshapes are translated
>comes with 2 outfits
>textures are in PSD and in english
>PSD offers easy way to recolor the booth
>booth model comes with full body
>booth model comes with optimized body for quest

So far I only seen 60,- (or more) booths that kind of sort of do look alike an awful lot and offer none or only partial of what I written above.

>>388290227
this event has ended; thank you very much to everyone who showed up

My controllers suddenly started appearing like 2-3 meters offset from my headset, and restarting PiTool, SteamVR and my PC does nothing. Tried running room setup on both Pitool and Steamvr but didn't work either. Every time I start steamvr they are offset.

Any idea how to fix this?

1.0 base stations
Pimax 5k+
Index Controllers

https://twitter.com/booth_pm/status/1537321484284067841?s=20&t=4wHm7Ocr3AsaPSfyev2r_w
VRchat is now an official category in booth

i just got into VRchat yesterday
is it fine if i stick with an avatar from an avatar world for now? or should i make my own avatar from scratch?

>>388301571
it's boothcat time

>>388301571
It's more than ok with public models even past 3 months. But it is a good iea to slowly learn model making

>>388301571
As long as it's not a default avatar it's fine to find something you like and stick with it, but you lose out on the possibilities that come with learning some Unity/Blender.

>>388301571
You don't need to force yourself really but just about everyone wants to have their own personal avatar they've made/edited uploaded.

>>388301571
No.
You are required to make your model from scratch! Also, you need to code your own solution on how to integrate your model into VRChat. Also, please don't do shit like using already existing 3D software to make your model.

>>388301571
"from scratch" is a very large endeavour but respect if you want to do that.
If you mean editing a booth or whatever then yeah, you should start thinking about it.

>>388301571
Go to some of the Avatar Museum worlds and see if there's anything you vibe with

>>388300531
Maybe this can help?
https://github.com/pushrax/OpenVR-SpaceCalibrator

>>388301713

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRsjv-JKyf8
[/vrg/ Alternative] when?

>>388302571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfR9iY5y94s

Anyone ever use Shadowplay to record VRC? I can't seem to get it to work.

>>388301571
Go to Avatar Museums. To sample some nice avatars.

There are also some nice free booths:
https://booth.pm/en/browse/3D%20Characters?max_price=0

which you can upload, when VRChat lets you (just play a few days). Should be easy to start editing by recolor/retexture at start, then you can do blender donut tutorial and start remodelling etc, and thinking if you want to buy another model,. make your own or whatever.

>>388303883
shadowplay works fine

you have to minimine the grey/black mini steamvr window so shadowplay can 'focus' on the vrchat window.

>>388303493
>>388303883
this is a haachama thread so keep your posts appropriate, capiche?

>>388304079

>>388304079
https://streamable.com/3210vq

>>388304112
>>388304218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgqSwPQkxTc

Next EU dance hours when?

/vrg/tuber gens when?

>>388304527
Hopefully never

Next EU karaoke when?

Today I will commit VR cringe again.

>>388195119
Do you have any further source on that?
One I saw on r*ddit which I'm not particularly inclined to believe anymore is with the steam deck they submitted it late for electronic certification here and it delayed things but since there's still no word on a local release I doubt it's true.

>>388297078
Thanks anon.
Do you happen to have the version with Physbone?

I have an outfit with a shapekey to unzip the jacket, how do I use avatar dynamics for that so that I or other people can physically unzip the jacket?

>>388305749
MAybe something with grabbalbe (constrained) bones and the stretch parameter?

>>388306104
Ok but I'm retarded

>>388306149
I'm as well so I have nothing I could tell you

>>388306209
Thanks anyway fellow retard

>>388304079
Who is the haachama of /vrg/?

>>388290003
too bad i'm still caged..

>>388303883
Mine is set to just record the screen so I fullscreen vrc and hit record. I haven't done the shadowplay instant replay thing before though so I don't know about that.

>>388306149
make a phys bone that can stretch along the path of the zip (constrain the angle) and set the <parameter>
make an animation for fully zipped and fully unzipped
add the <parameter>_stretch parameter to your fx controller (float)
make a new anim layer with a blend tree for those anims driven by <parameter>_stretch

simple

You guys are mentally ill. Seek help not escapism

>>388308078

>>388307652
Thank you

>>388307312
>Never plays VR, barely plays vidya
>Logs in just to talk to someone for an hour then logs off
>Creates something once a year
Who comes to mind?

>>388293645
Just the headset + controllers? 1k USD probably.
>>388295045
Unlikely for a while. I'm just gonna import one, don't care anymore.

thanks anons, ill stick with a public avatar for now. i'll definitely work on my own avatar on the side as well though!

>>388308784
me

>tfw no VR otouto

Final deckard design
Do you like it?

>>388288689
can you link some good alternatives?

>>388290137
The reentry in OP has what you need to play it in VR with index.
Get the mods and bindings from there.

>>388311351
Sauce?

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/parenting4digitalfuture/2022/06/15/metaverse-vrchat/

new article just dropped boys

>>388312795
Patent office

>>388312795
https://patent.nweon.com/23471

>>388312915
>blog
Not reading your shit

>>388313052
bro he did a comprehensive field experiment

Move over PyPy, there's a new hip activity in town.
Sorry sweetie but Wiifit boxing is the new hotness

>>388312915
>queer theory

I actually agree with the observations and conclusions, but not the categorization. Vrchat is great place if you're gay or a tranny, and it's dangerous to children. It would be just as dangerous if it was just as sexually active but completely heterosexual and neurotypical.

>>388311351
finally some real vr content

>>388312915
>In a semi-private or private world, players tend to use established personas and conform to the implicit ‘dress code’, usually wearing anime girl avatars. The interactions that happen in these spaces are most often relaxing, friendly, or intimate. A crucial question is why players in friend groups seem to be less aggressive than the casual or new players in the public spaces. During my long-term ethnography, I observed that there are community-level self-regulating and self-censoring mechanisms that reward or punish players’ actions. Players who observe the rules are rewarded with fulfilling long-term friendships and access to group activities while players who violate the rules, for example by verbally or physically harming others are punished with public disapproval and exclusion from groups.

is he talking about us?

I can't believe Deckard won't have eye tracker nor face tracker.

>>388315641
>A crucial question is why players in friend groups seem to be less aggressive than the casual or new players in the public spaces.
It's like the person that wrote this never experienced the internet before social media sanitised every website. This isn't something unique to VRChat at all.

>community-level self-regulating and self-censoring mechanisms
This place? Ha, you wish. Any dickhead can always drop in if a single person can vouch for them, even if they're a troll. Just look at our resident freaks that somehow stay around.
This community is about as open as a public toilet.

>>388280452
I actually agree with this and I use a very distinctive customized booth with some scratch made assets as well. I see people crying about their basic recolour with a default penetrator added getting ripped or their unedited TDA trash. I find it extremely cringe. I'd leave my avatars set to public permanently if I wouldn't get banned for nsfw etc. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
I don't rip avatars btw.

>>388317156
"rippers" are just skiddies or someone using a small mod because they want fake virtual currency to download some other avatar on that gay site
if I see anyone with my particular assets I can basically issue a DMCA takedown as I actually fully own the assets :^)

>>388312915
>Straight male players using the anime girl body to experiment with gay sex
Yes thats me

>>388317842
if you're having gay sex in vrchat, you're not straight

>>388311351
so it's likely the deckard will have 2k per eye (possibly 4k per eye) micro oled displays and the fov will also be bigger. let's see if fat gaben makes any announcement during the valve vr event.
it's pretty likely since it's a vr event after all

>>388315949
AAAAAAAAAA

>>388318379
when is this?

>>388315949
>>388311351
the thing is, how MUCH it will cost?
I ain't paying 1000 usd for a thing that will break in a couple of months like the index

>>388318446
18-25

>>388318392
hey lying, deckard won't have face tracking but it will have eye tracking
also bigger off ear speakers than before

>>388318379
it's been found out ages ago it'll be 4k x 4k retard-kun

>>388318446

>>388318632
Is it too early too hope?

>>388318768
preorders are likely

>>388318808
>preorders
gee i can't wait for steam to shit the bed and ban my payment for an hour like with steam deck

>>388318847
don't bother, scalper bots will clean out the store in under a second

>>388318964
a man can dream, can't he?

>>388318847
My bank blocked the payment when I preordered Index. I got it anyway, but it was close.

>>388318379
Well, what else can they show at Valve VR Fest? The Index and Alyx again?

>>388319338
my experience with index orders wasn't nearly as bad as with the deck

>>388319610
the demo event again, but with only VR titles, and most are rehashed from the one happening right now
:)

I wish I had the skill to actually edit textures intsead of recoloring them.

have you ordered your metaverse gateway yet frens?

>>388319785
what the fuck is this abomination

>>388319812
i think it's for performing vivisections

>>388319785
that looks like a suicide device

>>388319785
The wage cage is real!?

https://playtoearndiary.com/stepvr-just-releases-the-worlds-first-metaverse-gate/

>>388319785
>>388321574
Probably just as practical

>>388300531
>>388302560
got it working
to fix pimax headset tracking I had to change base station modes
one from b to c and the other from c to b
and restart pitool

>>388290003
>payday isn't launching after recent update and blt update
great

>>388322641
post %localappdata%/PAYDAY 2/crash.txt on pastebin or something and link it here

EU anime tonight at 7pm UTC+1, we're watching Skeleton Knight, Spy x Family, Aharen-san and The Devil is a Part Timer (season 1) all episode 10 and in that order

Breaking Bad starting in 5-10 minutes. Get in here:
https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_29daa002-4a20-4176-81c6-39a72fbcf8b2&instanceId=04430~hidden(usr_be3736aa-220c-4c6b-b3f7-7e67f5a6d171)~nonce(C620D32F89882BE8846B3F0399BDA10B864367899886F7B9)

is this cable bundle a meme, is it just a regular usb-c with 5gb upload or whatever

>>388324141
it uses optic wire for data, which makes it more reliable for 5m length. it's not faster, it's not having any extra hidden functionalities, it's just a premium usb-c cable

>>388324513
but is it a $79 worth cable? that's what its priced on amazon

any cheaper alternatives that will do the exact same thing

>>388324141
it's a fiber optic cable to handle data with an additional copper cable to deliver power, which makes the cable less likely to wear out and far better at sending data back and forth at long distances
similar cables are slightly cheaper but all usbc fiber optic cables are just pretty damn expensive in general, you can get an all-copper cable at a significantly reduced price but the longer they are the more likely it's going to have trouble sending data back and forth and will also wear out depending on the quality
you can also opt for just going all-wireless if your router happens to be in your room and it isn't some cheap shit

Link vs air link rundown?
I don't know if I should order longer cable or a new dedicated router.

>>388324592
Do you want it to be 5m long? If not, just get any decent long 3.0 cable, maybe with angled connector if possible.

>>388324665
Link will always look better, you gotta weigh that against the freedom of wireless. But also FUCK Airlink, Virtual desktop is the only choice.
I recently switched back to VD and holy shit there's a massive jump in image quality. No idea how the tech behind it works, but the difference was huge.

>>388325057
>>388324665
>Link vs air link rundown
Maybe I should elaborate.
I'm interested in the autistic stuff: latency, picture quality, battery life wise. Gotchas with different refresh rates etc. Hard numbers if possible, "feels responsive/looks good to me" is useless.

>>388324665
quality wise its about the same, both are just sending stream data to your quest which is going to have trouble handling more complex scenes and overall quality is just going to be awful compared to a real direct connection pcvr offers
if you can find a nice router it is definitely worth it, not having to deal with cables is real fucking neato, the only issue wireless streaming brings up is dealing with the quest2's battery life cutting your session short
you can mitigate this by hooking the quest 2 with a battery pack on the strap so it'll improve how long your session will last significantly depending on how big the battery is
if you decide to go wireless by virtual desktop because airlink just isn't nearly as good as it

>>388325220
latency will be the same, both cable and wireless will have an inherent latency you can't get rid of
unless your router is complete shit it'll be pretty much 1:1 with regular link, maybe an extra frame or two which will be impossible to notice

>>388325452
oh to elaborate on why a direct usb connection is still going to have trouble not having perfect quality at all times with no latency is because that shit still has to be real-time encoded, sent through the cable, and then decoded by the quest, you can push thousands of mb per second through the cable and its still going to look like shit and struggle with super-high detailed complex scenes since no encoder is going to be able to handle that running at real-time scenes

>>388325220
>>388325452
>>388325963
forgot to mention refresh rates
the quest is very much capable of 120hz, but your battery life will eat shit for it even though all the quest is doing is decoding video/audio and handling the controls
virtual desktop will have settings to change the screen's refresh rate to 72/90/120 (while steamvr will still run at 120hz if you choose to do so) and your battery life will adjust accordingly
what you decide to run at depends on how long you want your session to be
it has been a while so I can't provide hard numbers, but getting 8 hours session at 120hz isn't too difficult if you have the battery pack to handle it

>>388325452
>maybe an extra frame or two which will be impossible to notice
So 15ms more? What is the minimum latency achievable wired and wifi?
I know for sure the oculus overlay can provide the readout, like exact latency in milliseconds, but I cannot find exact test results made by some rigorous autismo. It's exactly what is needed, but all I can find is normalfags saying shit like "looks good enough for me".
>>388326547
>but getting 8 hours session
What are the numbers with just the headset? Is stuff like bobovr m2 pro...
Actually nevermind, I can just get it straight from the manufacturer.
Is picrelated accurate?

>>388324141
If you want a long cable, thats the one you want. Personally I prefer wireless with a battery pack

>>388326893
if you aren't used to regular pcvr you aren't going to notice it, but if you have you'll have no trouble getting used to it at all and won't consider much of a drawback
the latency will be pretty much the same between wired and wireless if your router isn't struggling to send data back and forth
through a decent but fairly old 5ghz router (linksys wrt32x) I was getting about 10~16 (usually 13 total) additional ms of latency compared to a direct pcvr connection

>>388327326
>if you aren't used to regular pcvr you aren't going to notice it
I'm used to overclocked CRT's and low-persistence monitors in general.

>compared to a direct pcvr connection
Different headset or you mean wired link?

>>388326893
That battery life seems accurate. I use one of these https://www.amazon.co.uk/Anker-PowerCore-Technology-High-Capacity-Compatible-Black/dp/B07S829LBX
It's pretty big and heavy but I get 12+ hours out of it

>>388327581
Different headset
As explained, the quest 2 is not capable of having a direct hdmi/displayport, so for the quest to receive display/audio data it needs to be encoded by the computer then, sent, then decoded by the headset, which will ALWAYS have latency and quality issues
every other headset can just plug in via hdmi/displayport and call it a day, no streaming funny business
of course, I can't just say "just ignore it, lmao" but it really isn't as bad as you might think, but it is definitely worse compared to having a real headset

>>388328659
>As explained, the quest 2 is not capable of having a direct hdmi/displayport
Yeah, I get that even the wired signal is compressed, this is why I asked.
>but it is definitely worse compared to having a real headset
I want to buy a real pcvr headset, but index is just too expensive for a product for 2019. I cannot buy it directly, because valve doesn't sell it in my country directly, so I would have to either import it or by from a reseller for something like $2k. I could have maybe paid that much for a new headset, but not for 3 years old one.

Payday 2 in an hour heisters!

>>388329236
Also, forgot to say, I only consider HMD's with base-station tracking to be real pcvr headsets. Windows Mixed Reality feels like a meme to me.

>>388329236
buy the reverb g-
>>388329456
oh yeah buddy you're fucked, best you can do is hopefully find somebody selling any of the vive kits second-hand in your country, maybe you'll get lucky and find some business selling them nearly untouched

>>388329643
I have terrible luck with used products, plus headset is something you strap to your head, so using one after it has been used by someone else feels a bit gross.
So this is why I've decided to make-do with quest 2 for now, at least till deckard releases.

>>388329292
i think i have a small crush on you

>>388330247
gaskets are easily switchable but yeah I guess I understand
having used a Samsung odyssey+, a valve index, and the quest 2 I can say this
the quest 2 is best used as a backup solution for when your real headset breaks down and needs to be sent in for RMA
the comfort is subpar, the battery life is unfortunate, the guardian software which handles playspace and tracking is frustrating, and the display quality/fov is very dissapointing
as your first headset it will serve you just fine, but putting on a valve index after a few weeks of being forced to use it will feel like a breath of fresh air like you wouldn't believe

>>388331825
>the comfort is subpar
Even after changing the strap and the facecover to the third-party ones?
>display quality is very dissapointing
You mean the colors? I heard that pixel-wise display is pretty good, if you can push the rendering resolution high enough.

>>388293645
If with all the leaked features and specs, 2k-3k. Valve better make it more durable this time though.

>>388332224
Yes, even with the best out there it doesn't feel nearly as good as the index's
The colours are shit, while the screen door effect is (almost) gone the clarity still doesn't feel as good as the index's, the fov is very limited as well
oh yeah I forgot to mention the audio solution it has is awful, I suggest buying some cheap, small headphones like the koss ksc75

>>388296693
I did not take those images from Bradley, but Bradley did confirm those findings in the code, which was public anyway.

>>388155996
>Camera
No, I need lighthouse tech...

>>388332763
>the audio solution it has is awful
Yeah, I heard about that. I have good wired headphones, so it's okay I think.
>the clarity still doesn't feel as good as the index's
What is the reason? The lenses? Maybe rendering res was not high enough. I remember that you need to render at 140% of the panel resolution to compensate for the barrel distortion of the lenses.