/vrgg/ - Virtual Reality Gaming General #32

>>402087971 (OP)
Phew... we're back.

What's your favorite gun to handle in VR and why? Doesn't have to be super specific, just the type of gun will do. Mine are definitely handguns because they feel so good to reload, it's like I'm really an action hero!
Please attach pictures, I am not knowing of gun. Ironically, there's an IP range ban on posting pictures here...

I'm honestly surprised how many people are having issues with bonelabs (from jank to motion sickness to whatever). To me, it seems much more polished than BW at release; whilst some of the movement is different (which I think mainly has to do with none of the avatars being the omni-chad that is Ford) but otherwise it's honestly really good.

Perhaps a bit less soul though, I agree that the levels aren't as good, less of a HL feel. I look forward to the mods though.

>>402089105
Bolt action rifles. Something about the whole sliding the bolt around is super satisfying to me.

>>402089105
i like shotguns, because im bad at aiming.

Okay you faggots answer me:

PICO 4, yay or nay??? (I am headsetless peasant at the moment)

>>402092336
for PCVR or standalone?

>>402092336
No headphone port and no DP for PCVR kills the Pico 4 for me, but if none of that bothers you then it looks pretty good.

>>402097413
PCVR sir!
>>402098164
>No headphone port and no DP for PCVR kills the Pico 4 for me
exactly thats why Im asking. I dont know how bad the compression is, I only used wired pcvr.

Price is pretty good at ~430 and it has high resolution but without DP Im afraid its kinda meaningless. I wanna get back into VR masterrace asap dear sirs but I cant afford to waste money on stupid buys.

>>402092336
It's chinese so I would avoid it, but you do you.

I did it bonebros.
I have once again entered the void and achieved immortality.
system clock is a fuck
you, not wlecom
take the meat sack if you wnt

>>402089105
any manual action - pump action, bolt action, even lever action
the more i have to interact with the gun the better

by the way quarantine is a lie doors conceal the void and they will never open

more deepestest lore

>>402089562
You can pick up the Ford avatar to the right of the Boneworks box door, on top of the concrete pillar.
There's a few other avatars hidden in the Hub too, but I haven't found any of them elsewhere.

>>402101221
I find these unreliable to use even after 5 years of having VR. The lack of any feedback makes it artificially difficult. I'm surprised haptics on this action aren't more common.

by the way I noob poled all my way up the yellow chute and was greeted by a ball squad only to find out you can just take the other way around at the battery door
here, have an old friend.
Thank god for big boi saving the day.

>>402098874
Hmm possibly worth while. In terms of optics and hardware it's clearly better than the Q2, no DP is a pain though so we need to see review for linked play. The Q2 compression is noticeable, but I'd still rate it above the Rift S in terms of image quality at max resolution (plus it has 120Hz) - so it's not a deal breaker but a poorly implementation would be. So wait for reviews I guess, I'm sure lots of PCVR players will be looking to buy one.

At a similar price point the only non-meta competitor would be a HP Reverb Gen 2, no?

>>402087971 (OP)
>original boneworks has nulls as flat shaded untextured humanoids with a layer of wireframe cage around them because they're blank holodeck actors
>bonelab makes them smooth shaded, single layered, and with a lazy voronoi texture that kinda looks like the wireframe if you squint. also there's ones that wear textured clothes now for some reason
it's not only quest support holding the game back, SL0 is a lazy company. half of the employee cards were TDA edits. Boneworks was a fluke

>>402098164
Looking to get my first headset, is wireless really that terrible, even with the dongle?

>>402102296
>textured clothes now for some reason
did you even read the clipboards

>>402102296
>Boneworks was a fluke
That wasn't good either. I appreciate their effort to try to make a 'Valve style' game, more so than Valve's own attempt with Alyx, but the execution was lazy and bad. They didn't even try to make a coherent story let alone have any flow to the campaign, it's just disjointed tech demos and tests stitched together. The physics were so poorly tuned on release that they had to release a patch completely changing them shortly after, and even then it feels clunky and unintentional.

>>402102852
i read all the clipboards, something about some of the villagers developing sentience or some garbage
it doesn't matter, their story is written by whatever matpat comes up with

>>402103205
it's company policy that whoever goes in the village must be dressed appropriately for the setting, even nulls

>>402103443
ok brandon very funny joke thanks for clearing that up

>>402103652
you're welcome, now go shill the game to your friends ok?

>>402104079
add the softbody physics for bulges first like you promised :<

>>402104254
modders will fix it I'm off to make bonefactory

>inb4 no one responds
Anywhere where people discuss modding their headsets? I have an old modular motorcycle helmet I'm considering bolting my quest onto. Anyone heard of someone doing something similar?

>>402104652
>bonefactory
>it's the same game again but they give access to a debug menu to fix the game breaking bugs in real time

>>402105216
oy vey, the null woke up, send him to the incinerator quick!

>>402105216
also it's $50, we're an experienced studio now

>>402105342
but we're still a small indie studio so pls understand the bugs ok? norefunds anyway k bye!

>>402105459
>>402105342
Weird degree of larping and v contrarionism right now. Do you not have the 30 bucks to spend or something?

>>402105541
what do you need 25 for?
I don't have 20 for you...

>>402105541
Bonelab being doodoo is not a contrarian take.

>>402105649
But the youtubers told me it's good???

>>402105649
To be fair is what I expected.
What I didn't expect was the price.

It's out lads... finally something to wash away the disappointment of Bonelab.

>>402105859
vr is saved, I bought a copy for my wife's son.

I find the melee combat in bonelab really frustrating, it's like nothing has any weight. I can slam a regular guy's head with a baseball bat over and over and over and it'll be like i'm hitting him with a feather, doesn't even react to it, then i'll accidentally nudge him with a box and it's like I just nuked nagasaki.

Then the ball turrets, drop big metal crates on them, no reaction. Drop bricks, monitors, rubble, weapons, weights, anything at all that is meant to be heavy. No reaction.

Drop a baseball on it, dead.

Run up and grab it so that you can twist the gun away from yourself or throw the fucker over an edge? Nope, it's made of teflon you can't grip that shit even though it's got a big yellow carry handle on the top of it lmao also it rolls backwards faster than you can move forwards because for some reason you're barely moving at a crawl now lol? Enjoy doing the level over retard.

I don't get it, I just do not get why things are so inconsistent. You can beat the fuck out of five guys in a row then the sixth it's like he doesn't feel your blows. You can destroy multiple of those turrets and then suddenly there's one that just ignores physics. The INCONSISTENCY is the problem.

>>402106835
Just mod it. :)

>>402106835
choose big guy
pros:
smash heads with fists
smash heads with heads
ball bot give you problem? grab that mask and smash it on the wall
never dead

cons:
u slow
slow ass nigga
nigga lose some weight

>>402107970
I feel like you misunderstood what I was saying.

>>402089562
The physics feel less polished than release Boneworks to me. I had 1 gamebreaking moment throughout Boneworks where I glitched into a container with no way out. I've had 3 so far in Bonelab, one where I fell through the floor after landing too hard, another where I could not open any balls for some reason and one more where I glitched into a sealed container. This is on top of the same bugs as before with my hands stuck inside objects plus new ones like being launched backwards when trying to climb and respawning with half my legs stuck in the ground.
The new standing/sitting autoadjustment just feels awkward too. Sometimes my character gets stuck in a half squat so I'm constantly needing to adjust it back up. It's great for vehicles but needs the option to turn it off, if I need to crouch my knees can handle it IRL.

>>402089105
Pistol, HL:ALYX

>>402102006
Yeah I some reviewers claimed there is a mild screendoor effect which is kinda wierd over 2,1k res. G2 users claim there is none on the reverb.
>At a similar price point the only non-meta competitor would be a HP Reverb Gen 2, no?
Yeah thats what Im thinking about but the sweet spot is tiny and its pretty expensive here in europe... usually 600 or over a bit.
If I could get a g2 for 450-500 I would buy that and forget about it.

>>402089105
Nothing will beat the feeling of blasting a mother fucker with a shotgun. The pump action is just the cherry on the top. Bonelab's shotguns are actually really good somehow too.

>>402102296
It's actually worse than you think. The UV map on the nulls are projected from view. You can see it stretch and wrap around the sides of the model. I can't wait to see someone rip the models and textures so we can see how bad it really is. Honestly would have preferred they put a wireframe over the nulls that matched the edges of their verts and had them shade sharp to make it even more obvious they were fake non-humans.

just beat bonelab. it's good and I am excited for mods

new HL2VR patch today

how long do you think until it's "done"? I'm hyped to play it but I don't wanna spoil myself before it's in a good state

movement speed update is great

>>402119429
Did they add a virtual puke bucket yet?

>>402119527
I know I can barely play for 30 minutes before I start feeling like I wanna throw up

>>402119527
>>402119698
I think the movement acceleration was the problem, which is now removed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJJES7wSf5w

this video is actually immoral. this man is overselling the game far far more than he ever should have. he has to be paid off

>>402121121
>wearing a mask for recording
he's just a faggot

>>402121121
>8h campaign
>deepest lore that ties everything together
lmao
more like 1h of story, 4h of treasure hunt searching every nook and cranny for little balls, 3h of trying to climb ladders and getting kicked off them

>>402121121
why do all youtubers try to impersonate this terrible zoomer voice

>>402092336

for pcvr get the pico 3

>>402102564
It depends on you, it's obviously not as good as wired (cause of the compressed video and added latency) but it doesn't bother me and not being tethered by a wire is nice.
>>402105106
Buying and modding alternative straps yes.
Strapping the headset to a motorcycle helmet, hell no.

>motion sickness suddenly comes back

>>402136345
weakling

Bonelab shotguns are among the worst guns I've ever had the misfortune of handling in VR god damn
Collides with my body all the time and the issues with gripping not registering are exacerbated by having to take your hand off to reload so frequently

Is there anything worth buying on the Oculus Store besides Virtual Desktop?

I've got a bunch of referral credit saved and wanna spend it.

i dont think you idiots even comprehend how incomprehensibly bad widespread access to unfettered, unmoderated interpersonal communication between adults and children actually is, and the consequences that it could possibly bring about

>ugh anon this is /vrgg/ go back to /vrg/ uuuuggggghhhhhhhhh
shut the fuck up if you got retarded jew brain, i get to post where the fuck i want

Any anons here know how PCVR Bonelab performs on a minimum spec machine? Boneworks ran great on my (slightly overclocked) gtx 970 with a Rift S, but I'm afraid that won't be enough for Lab. Is it possible to use the Quest assets/graphics with the PC version?

>>402141040
tl;dr

>>402141289
Do you have an SSD with enough space? You can crank the graphics/render resolution down to get acceptable performance, but an SSD is required or the game can't load assets fast enough.
I'd still wait until it goes on sale.

>>402117635
I only know bong land prices, but you can get used ones for ~£400 or so.

>>402141762
Yeah I do have an SSD. Gonna take your advice and wait for a sale (and mods)

>>402109280
I think you can turn it off in an .ini, maybe the save file? It can be disabled.

I've had 0 game breaking bugs in BL so far, whereas in BW I had several and like 5 CTDs at release. Stuff gets stuck in stuff, feels like it's happening less to me, but BW did not run well at release for me at all.

>>402141040
go back to /v/

i had fun with BL and BW
only had one major bug in my playthrough where i had to restart the game because i couldn't grab with one hand

yes they're barebones yes they're lazy yes they're motion sickness inducing if you're prone to it but i would take a thousand more bonelabs over another thousand pavlov clones

>>402141040
unmoderated conversation is bad which is why you're posting on... 4chan?

did they fix Index controls in Bonelab yet

Hello anons. Please enjoy this custom bonelabs avatar and spawnable prop. Making spawnable props you can grab is impossible apparently but collisions work at least.
https://files.catbox.moe/wq26gw.zip

>>402152961

>>402149543
works on my machine

>>402152961

>>402101807
Yes right!
That and bolt actions, oh no, i didn't rotate the bolt 1mm far enough, better not reload urgh.

>>402153247
>>402153753
holy shit this is so moe

>>402152961
did you voice it?
i will only import it if you've done all the voicelines

>>402155128
I'm pretty happy with it. Grip points are a bit fucked up because the hand bones are all unweighted placeholder ones. Arms are almost too short to reach around the holster collision boxes. Climbing is pretty difficult because you can't always grab edges properly and will often just pull whatever is in your holster out even with fully extended arms. Arms also don't line up perfect either. For combat though you make up for your relative inability to move by being too short for melee enemies to reach when they're standing up.

>>402104652
>bonefactory
VR factorio/satisfactory sounds cool as fuck tho

At what point do I get to hotswap avatars? I just started the mines.

I'm slow because I still get nauseous and the headset hurts my face. and because ladder tops like me about as much as my ex's

>>402159370
i was gonna answer but you made it gay
chapter 12 but the chapters are all an average of 5 minutes in length

Man Boneworks was so cool I can't wait to see what the devs have in store for the sequel!!

>Buy VR headset
>Play the few worthwhile games before running out of things to do
>Get to cooming to lolis
>Bonelab finally comes out
>Beat that in six hours
>Go back to cooming immediately after that and just playing normal games

Is there a light on the horizon? Is Saints & Sinners 2 going to be longer than the first or is Skyrim VR going to get easy to set up? I'm genuinely wondering if I should sell my headset and maybe get another when if things get better.

>>402172670
everyone is too afraid to make full length VR titles because there aren't enough full length VR titles to prove they're worth the investment because everyone is too afraid to make full length VR titles because

>>402172670
Have you played into the radius yet?

>every game I try keeps crashing

>>402182660
Not that anon but I played that zombie quest thing in H3VR and just found it tedious even though I finished SoC and CoP and loved them. How's Into the Radius any different?

>>402137774
I think they'd be fine if the general issues of handling guns and holding the front grip would be solved

>>402101807
I find pump and lever action (where you just move forward-backwards) usually works fine, but lever action depends on the game
If the game is really anal about you having to rotqate the bolt then it can be frustrating, yeah, but if the game is lenient where you pretty much can just pull your hand back and it rotates the bolt for you (ITR comes to mind) it's nice and smooth

>>402183361
>rotweiners
Well it's a completely different game and a different genre and completely different visually and completely different mechanics and different weapon handling so I'm struggling to find why you'd even think that was an apt comparison.
Anyway comparing it to stalker isn't really fair either though that happens a lot. They have the same source material (a roadside picnic) but where stalker is all factions and banditry, itr is comfy post apocalyptic scavenging and raiding. Honestly it's more like tarkov than stalker. It's also heavy on exploration and the danger of the unknown so the less you know about the setting and challenges the better. The general gameplay loop is get in, get loot, get out. The story is told in audio tapes, journal pages, and memories. There's side missions you can do for money and high priority missions you can do to advance the story and get access to better gear from the shop. It's tense and unforgiving difficulty-wise and the gameplay requires slow and patient awareness. Every bullet is counted and managed, each caliber has a bunch of different variants and guns to shoot them with. There's food, a playable guitar, comfy scenery to sit by the campfire and look out into, basic mod support, and it's still being actively developed despite already having the full release. There's even the old full release 1.0 still in the steam betas available to play which is quite different and much more atmospheric and brutal.
Honestly it's one of the best vr games out at the moment and goes on 30% off sales often. Go play it and try not to spoil yourself on it before you do.

>>402185770
I find the single action weapons work consistently in ItR, but Pavlov's pump action is terrible for me.

>>402147669
>i would take a thousand more bonelabs over another thousand pavlov clones
We definitely need more single player vrfps games, it's kind of annoying how many multiplayer and barebones sandbox ones we get.

>>402183361
>I played that zombie quest thing in H3VR and just found it tedious
That's because the gamemodes in H3VR are crap, the dev has no idea how to make fun gameplay and I'm glad he's finally realised it and started to add modding support.

>>402192290
but bonelab is a barebones sandbox one

got filtered by the lightning anomalies near the electric pylons on factory, is there one spot where you can reach the artifact spot or do you just have to bring some healing with you and eat the damge?

>>402198397
I've never managed it, but I think it's one of the few places that spawns regen artefacts.

Ogey, after upgrading my Pc and getting a better stable internet connection soon, i might actually be able to enjoy Vrchat.
Lastly i want to upgrade to FBT too. Did something happen, in the last months or are the only options vive trackers or waiting endlessly on tundra ones?

>>402198397
If you throw a probe in an electric anomaly it becomes harmless for a second or two

>>402183361
>zombie quest thing in H3VR
That's pretty much an anti-game with how poorly the mechanics and gameplay work together. It shouldn't be the comparison for anything.

There have been weapons in Pavlov for over a year now that are still not usable in S&D.

>>402198397
Yeah the lightning anomalies are annoying as fuck, I don't understand them.
>>402202667
I've never been able to get this to work, the safe window is too small.

>>402198397
instal the no lightining anomalies mod

Why there are no perfect VR headsets yet? Every single one got some serious flaws.

>>402207038
Cost? It's probably possible to make something perfect but it would be more expensive than anyone could actually afford.

>>402207038
Does the varjo have flaws?

>>402207038
Rift CV1 was the closest one to perfection, the only flaw it had was computionally expensive tracking. Index is a close second, amazing tracking, amazing system, but it has reliability issues (kinda overblown + solved by amazing, amazing customer support, but the issue remains and it'll kill headsets with time). Situation is not bad at all.

>>402208740
I'd say Rift's durability was a big problem. Mine was practically destroyed after 18 months, but my Index is still perfect after 3 years.

>start ItR
>optimistic, excited, game is fun
>bolotki is kind of lame but whatever
>factory is brutal
>realize I don't want to explore because there's nothing unique you can find except maybe a gun I can already buy, and I already live in Eastern Europe so it's not even exotic to look at
>anons say the ending is lame so no motivation to blaze through the game to see it
>lose interest
What's the next big shooter in VR?

>>402210195
Use the scavenger mod and forgo the shop.

>>402210556
I tried it, it's just ItR but more miserable. Not my thing, which sucks because I like the guns very much.

>>402210195
there are unique things to find, like PPSh barrel magazines. And guns are expensive as fucki in the shop.

>>402210195
>What's the next big shooter in VR?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlFI6vA5kGA
this one probably, though beta access only starts at the end of this year so I imagine full release won't be before summer 2023 at the very least

>>402215502
where's the coitus
no coitus no purchase

>>402208740
Still love my CV1, occasionally I plug it in again (and enjoy constant usb disconnect sounds) and appreciate just how well engineered and designed it is. Then I take it off because the SDE is just too much, but it's an excellent device.

I wonder if there's a way to do a panel swap.

>>402209903
I had exactly the opposite experience, my CV1 is in perfect conditions, the controllers have endured quite a few bangs and are fine. My Index seems to fall apart (and then take forever for RMAs to process). My Q2 is pretty durable too, the controllers less so.

>>402216808
I don't know how that is possible when the Index is built like a tank but the Rift is thin brittle plastic.

>>402217142
Controllers and face padding basically. In terms of the actual headsets both of mine are in perfect condition - they've suffered a couple of accidental face punches but that's about it. The padding on the Index did not last well for me, the padding on my CV1 miraculously did (and I know it crumbled for quite a few people).

The knuckles controllers had quite a few issues for me, stick issues, one just stopped working, maybe I got the bad ones off the line. My CV1 controllers seem to be unbreakable, not even stick drift.

Whilst we're comparing my Quest 2 headset is also pristine, although I did have to swap out the strap to a DAS. The controllers though are pretty bad. I have had major stick drift issues.

>>402182660
Yeah. It's one of few actual games that is made for VR sadly.

>>402217375
You don't even have the right strap problem that breaks the audio?

>>402215502
The VR market desperately needs more cute and funny anime girls.

>>402172970
>everyone is too afraid to make full length VR titles because there aren't enough full length VR titles to prove they're worth the investment because everyone is too afraid to make full length VR titles because
why? people already proved a decent full-length vr game that if it wasn't vr would barely receive a 6.5/10 are capable of being very succesfull like saints and sinners or even resident evil 4, it doesn't even have to feel aaa, or even aa.

>>402215502
name?

>load up boneworks after bonelab
>levels are larger, more open and more complex
>notice decals from nullbodies and zombies exist as well
>there's also a rifle that has a working scope
I hate the Quest so much it's fucking unreal

i'm literally just completing the story of bonelab to satiate my OCD

then i'm going to just wait for a multiplayer mod

>>402218909
Nope, although I know the slide was problematic. Didn't even preventatively tape it etc. - I think being gentle was sufficient.

>>402205814
And there's no end in sight hahaha...

>>402223490
He just added scopes to Shack, he needs a break :^)

>>402220976
No, it's Unity

>>402227383
Both games are on Unity though

>>402227383
I'm curious, they keep calling it the "marrow engine" but everything just seems to be unity systems slapped together
Does marrow engine actually mean anything or is it only their patented term for games with limp noodle characters?

What VR game has gotten closest to the physics of GTA IV?

>>402227772
no dude it's very advanced it's all physics based dude just trust me it's the future of vr!

>>402228483
Blade and Sorcery with the NPC grab mod is a little like how GTAIV NPCs could grab onto your car and get dragged along. Seeing them hang onto each other for dear life is funny. The rest of B&S' physics are more reminiscent of the swingset glitch.

>>402227772
Unity is the base engine, on top of which they made their own engine, many devs do this.

>>402234614
yeah but it doesnt seem that different or amazingly performant or good

I was not expecting Resident Evil 4 VR to feel faithful, despite a change in engine. Been using original-game settings, although I wish you could assign the tank controls to one stick. Only VR thing that felt like a missed opportunity after 3hrs of playing is the radio calls not reflecting Leon's video feed based on how you're holding it.

Might end up my new favourite version after playing the fuck out of that Wii release in the day, even though the crosshair aiming made it a breeze. Need Armature to get contracted to port other shit, since they have staff that clearly care about the work they do.
And hopefully they're adding Separate Ways since it's the only content lacking at this point iirc.

>>402209903
Only durability issue I ever heard with the Rift CV1 was the right speaker just dying for some people. Mine's went strong five years without issue, before sunsetting it for wireless w/ a Quest 2. I do miss CV1's strap design though, shit was easy to put on and always fit snug.

>>402227772
You can ignore a lot of Unity's included functionality. I assume Marrow Engine is just them basically homebrewing their own physics interaction system rather than using the crappy one Unity comes stock with.

Escape from Pavlov is kinda cool. They probably can't add a backpack system, or any kind of real item persistence to make it worth playing more than a few times though.

>>402240513
How does a map look so fucking bad (since it's still in dev clearly) but weigh in at 1.5gb?

I look forward to the Unreal VR Injector release so I can play the Radiohead walking sim in VR without buying VorpX

>>402236031
Like with any engine on top of another engine, it's to ease with implementing content, probably half the reason for it is to make things easier for modders https://github.com/StressLevelZero/MarrowSDK

I like the atmosphere and setting of both bone games so much, but I really wish they had more interesting levels. 2 shotting zombies and gunning balls stops being fun very quickly.

man why are vive base stations so expensive? I wanna get trackers for motion capture and vr chat but before I can even get trackers the two base stations alone will run like $500. Aren't they just a simple laser and motor with mirror? Parts probably cost like $10 for each.

>get to the hub in bonelab
>think to myself "man i just want to download a full save so i get all the content without having to go through a 5 hour long treasure hunt"
it's like i didn't even want to play the story i just wanted vr gmod kek

>>402241997
Valve have a monopoly on them so they can sell them at any price they want.

>>402238258
They're using the Nvidia PhysX physics engine for physics

>>402242160
what would you do with all the unlocked content though?
most of the games are unlocked from the start, you even have the basic enemies and the spawn guns on the sandbox maps

>>402242560
Isn't the specs open? In the same way that other companies are allowed to build trackers using the steamvr spec, such as Tundra or Manus, can't other companies also build base stations? If they have as large of a profit margin as I imagine, surely someone would have done so?

>>402243228
I don't know, but no-one has made a third party lighthouse or controller, despite the overpricing and how poor the two existing controllers are. I guess Pimax, but their controller looks like shit too. A Touch style controller that cost less would dominate the market.

>>402243228
The kind of lens a base station needs is extremely specialized, and requires very precise creation. I figure that's the main thing Valve has manufactured on lockdown.

>>402243827
Really? How is it different than any other line-generating lens? What pattern is the base stations actually projecting?

>>402243827
>>402244126
I don't think the lens is the problem. It just emits wide angle IR pulses, right?

>>402243065
>what would you do with all the unlocked content though?
i don't really know. i feel like i just got this game for hypothetical future content than the current content

>>402224973
That 'beta' still isn't out after 4 months, right?

Hey, I'm thinking of upgrading to a new vr set from my cockulus rift cv1 I've had since 2019 sometime soon, but I don't think I'll afford a valve index and I don't trust zuck what with the new """meta""" """quest""" """2"".
I'm looking at the hp reverb g2 as a cheaper alternative but apparently its controllers are shit, although I heard you can get the index controllers to work with it.
I'm on the fence of what modern vr headset to get that is
>good
>works with steamvr
>has good controllers
>doesn't cost too much
I'm thinking of maybe ordering an hp reverb and some valve lighthouse shenanigans to hook up the index controllers (so that would include ordering: some 2.0/1.0 base stations, a usb adapter dongle or something so I don't need a lighthouse headset to use the controllers, and the controllers themselves) off of ebay, but I'm afraid that may cost as much as the index, if not more.
For reference, optimistically speaking, if I get enough good money by christmas (I don't have a job), my budget would be $500
What do you guys suggest?

>>402245331
your best choice is still the index, sadly

turns out the kristal mod works alongside the VR mod.

Is it true that SteamVR has noticeable penalty to framerate on Oculus headsets and you should use OpenComposite whenever possible?

>>402245331
Wireless is the game changer anon. Either suck it up for Quest 2 or wait for Deckard

>>402249378
i used a rift s with a 1060 6gb through oculus+steamvr for about a year
i swapped to an index and despite higher res, got higher framerates just going through steamvr

anecdotally, the difference is massive and i'd do anything to stay out of the meta ecosystem

Is upgrade from Rift S to Quest 2 worth it? Or should i ride Rift S until it dies and then get something else, hoping something new shows up on the market?

>>402251832
Fair. You either get an ecosystem that doesnt eat shit or effortless setup (no lightstations) and wireless mode

the fucking pillar level in bonelab actually made me motion sick what the fuck

>>402252073
essentially, yeah
>>402251903
the quest is a bit of a hassle to set up as a proper pcvr headset and then the only real differences between the two are wireless capability and a slightly better display
if that's worth an upgrade to you then sure, why not

>>402252073
>you either get hardware freedom or software freedom
its like poetry

>>402252535
>spend the night smashing faces with fatfuck's giant thanos gauntlets
>now constantly misjudging the position of my hands because i got used to the way fatfuck's hands were offset from my real ones
at least i'm immune to motion sickness

>>402253163
I don't usually get motion sickness in VR that level just did me in

>lot of shit flying at you at once
>avatar keeps spazzing out because of it
>fucking grip detection started bugging out so the game kept thinking i was grabbing my guns when my hand was a million miles away
>on top of >>>>>>>climbing in boneworks
just a perfect storm of SHIT that fucked me up

>>402249537
>Deckard
what's deckard?

>>402256054
Valve time headset.

>>402256054
Valve's upcoming headset. Nothing really is known about it but its supposed to be wireless like quest and have inside out tracking while also being standalone

>>402238041
Shell out for a DAS. I did for my Q2 (after bobo and a few others) and never looked back. Add a VRCover interface and you get close to CV1 comfort - it's still heavier (and frontloaded weight at that), but not much to do about that apart from counterbalance.

>>402245331
If you're buying the base stations you might as well get the Index. The HMD itself isn't that expensive. That said if you want to spend less than you would for an Index there are basically four options:
1) Wait for Pico 4 reviews and see if it's good, accept china into your house in the process.
2) Reverb G2, good optics, mediocre tracking and bad controllers.
3) Get a Quest 2 (particularly if you value wireless too), which remains good value.
4) Wait for PSVR 2 and see if it's Steam VR compatible.

>>402258370
>Wait for PSVR 2 and see if it's Steam VR compatible.

>>402258737
It shouldn't be that hard to write an OpenXR driver for it.

>>402249378
Sort of. Steam VR (pre OpenXR) is poorly optimised for Oculus. The performance overhead varies and in some cases it seems to be very low (HL Alyx for example) whereas in others it's ~10% (ITTR). There has been a lot of detailed benchmarking and the general consensus is that SteamVR is a 10% overhead for unoptimised titles with using Oculus. Going the other way with Reverb is noticeably less, interestingly.

There's also a performance overhead due to encoding for the Q2, this seems to be 3-5% depending on settings.

If you're seriously performance strapped your best bet is to use Virtual Desktop and play wirelessly, it handles SteamVR natively and is more efficient in encoding than Airlink, so you can get equivalent performance then.

>>402258737
PSVR 1 was easily made compatible (with a webcam for the wands). I wouldn't be surprised honestly. I wouldn't even be surprised if Sony provide some official compatibility or a PSVR2.5 that has PC compatibility. But unless they're doing something very funky I guarantee we'll get modded support.

>>402259302
>There has been a lot of detailed benchmarking
Source on that. Sounds like bullshit to me. Not the impact, but the detailed benchmarking part.

>>402259539
It's on the Oculus forums, I don't have it bookmarked but there was a long running thread analysing this and I'm sure it's findable with some leg work. A few devs weighed in and most of the measurements were done by the BabelTech people. I always assumed they'd write an article about it but they never did.

>>402249378
Only known quantity with SteamVR on top of Oculus is you get the 500mb'ish VRAM consumption from both at once.

>>402259814
>Source: my ass
Alright, thank you. Just like I expected.

>>402259954
Go search for it fag, I'm not here to spoonfeed you, I even told you where to look.

>>402260037
>There has been a lot of detailed benchmarking
>a lot
>source? look it up yourself! it exists, I promise ;^)
What else should you expect from a \n\nigger I suppose.

>>402260792
I told you where to look - is it beyond your competence to do so? If it's too hard to search the Oculus forums go search reddit, no doubt there'll be reposts.

>>402261132
Eat shit, bitch. You were talking out of your ass. There are no detailed benchmarks like that, I would have known about them otherwise.

>>402261319
Evidently not. There are also benchmarks for WMR but clearly you're oblivious to those too. Have you hastily googled Babel Tech yet and tried to work backwards, or would that put too much stress on your monkey brain?

>>402261512
>still zero links
"Lots of detailed benchmarking" btw.

>>402261826
You want them? Go find. I'd post a let me google that link, but that's already too much spoonfeeding for you.

>>402262025
I accept your concession, bro. Let your ass get some rest, it's really working overtime today.

>>402207038

why are there no perfect consoles anon? No company can get it right perfectly

>>402262143
>Too retarded to google so I'll reeee instead.
I'm not wasting my time to look on your behalf.

>>402262551
>made a claim
>can't back it up
>starts seething, instead of admitting that he lied
I've already accepted your concession.

>>402262779
Live in ignorance then, being spoonfed is simply your limit.

>>402263042
It's obvious to everyone that you lied and there are no detailed benchmarks like that, otherwise you would have posted the link ten times over just to prove that you are not a lying bitch.
Just stop embarrassing yourself already.

>>402263341
How bad is your reading comprehension? I told you where to look, and who did the benchmarks. It's not rocket science to find them.

>>402263785
>bla bla bla
Still no links. Still a lying faggot.

>>402264112
Cry more. The info you need is right there, not that that's ever helped you.

>>402264459
The burden of proof is on you. Eat shit.

>>402264536
Told you where to look, not spending my time looking on your behalf. Show some initiative, or don't.

>>402265140
I looked, it doesn't exist. You are a faggot. Conversation over.

>>402265762
On Oculus forums? It'll also have airlink performance overhead comparisons and the same for VD. Try that in your search terms.

>tfw both anons spend more time getting mad and shitposting than it would've taken either one to go find the fucking thread in question
Just fuck off and get a room already, faggots.
VR games.

>>402266902
You cannot find something that doesn't exist. That's the point.

https://www.fanatical.com/en/pick-and-mix/crystal-vr-collection-2-build-your-own-bundle
Anything good here?

>>402273303
ragnarock is fun. lobbies get posted here sometimes too

>>402273546
I can't get the feel for it right/
The hits don't register properly and it's mostly down to me but I have no idea what else to tweak to make them accurate.

Anything on the Quest store that's not on PC that's worth a fuck besides RE4VR? Going to be holiday sales coming up these months, and I already have all the go-tos on the PC side of things (including the Oculus PC shit like Lone Echo 1&2/Asgards Wrath/Robo Recall/Stormland).

i was very long into ascent and part of the level failed to load, i tried to just go through the partially unloaded area but i eventually fell into the void and had no choice but to restart so i closed the game, should i just watch the end or should i go through the whole thing again? i dont want to roll the balls again this was already my second time

they already showed half the level in the trailer anyway which is a shame cause its like 1/4 of the entire game or something

also i dont like the avatar change gimmick the short avatars are too easy to accidentally grab your inventory slots and the fat and tall guy is just op its dumb

>>402220392
No Heroes Allowed VR

>>402284241
>short avatars are too easy to accidentally grab your inventory slots

This is the case but make sure that your body remapping settings are accurate. In general if your height or any other body size setting are off then body slots will feel bad and it will be exacerbated on small or very large avatars.

>>402246527
just what I've been waiting to hear

>>402284241
>i was very long into ascent and part of the level failed to load
I'm baffled at how linear the levels are, yet they can't stream assets in fast enough off a regular 7200rpm drive. Either pre-load more shit on PC or make the game self-aware of when it's behind, and pause the game until it's ready.

>>402286195
>I want my game to hitch ever time an asset loads

Do you realize that the point of asset streaming is to load stuff in and out of memory on demand, asynchronously? If you had to sit a wait for the asset its no long asset streaming, you just back to conventional synchronous loading where you have to wait for it to finish. Except now you are doing on a moment to moment bases so everything would case a hitch. Suck it up any disk drives are boomer shit, nobody that can afford an VR should be running anything off an HDD

>>402288942
How about the game makes use of my 32gb of ram.

>>402289884
Your ram is near useless, its all about vram and async gpu upload operations. Your ram is just acting as a buffer between the what should be an ssd and vram. If you think you have enough memory to swing it then just run it off a ram drive.

>>402290846
>Your ram is near useless
Other than the fact DirectStorage isn't used by this game or 99% of the PC library.

>can't take off the head strap
>no extra battery pack
>no audio jack
>only 90hz
picobros it's over...

>>402291010
The reality is that all almost all future vr titles will be made with targeting mobile platforms first. pcvr is super dead, Valve sucked all the air out of the room with Alyx. So if you want to keep playing the vr game that devs decide to grace us on pc with then you at least need a system that can keep up with the storage speed standard of 400 dollar mobile chipset.

>>402292219
You would think a game that has to run on a Snapdragon XR2 would load without problems even on a 5400rpm drive.

>controller broke
>Zucc will fix it for me for free because warranty
>7 days for it to get to them, 7 days back to me
>I'm out of commission for 2 weeks
go on without me, bros...

>>402292321
Not even close, the bench marks of even the cheapest solid state storage cannot be touched by any mechanical drive in the categories that are important. What's more is that in the context of a game, that is made of lots of little bit data that are scattered around a reused though the project, what is the most important is random access. You need to be able to quickly grab a lot of little random files that are not necessarily near each other in sequential storage space and send them to the gpu. HDD are extra bad at that since the have to physically seek a drive head to the correct position and wait for that data to run past. If the data just happened to be all lined up in order and ready to go it would be a different story, but that is never going to be the case in a game since, 1; aforementioned reuse of assets, and 2; the use can on the fly change what assets are necessary with the in game actions.

I've been absolutely losing my mind trying to get Quest hardware to work with my internet. Since the start, casting was the issue and now I've been trying to have my new PC connect to the headset for gaming.

After giving up for some months, new updates actually show me what's slowing my connection.
Channel Width is at 20Mhz.

However I'm on 5GHz network, and through my router settings the channel is set to 80Mhz.

No matter the reboots, restarts and settings, my Quest (1) headset always registers the 5GHz connection as a channel width of 20Mhz

I have no ideas ahead how to fix it further.

>>402089105
Pistols, I think they're just easier to use in VR
>>402117832
The shotguns are great, I really love the auto shotty. One of the few good points of Bonelab

>>402089105
Revolver. I like Trigun. It also improved my aim greatly in games and real life because I only have 6-12 shots.

>finished bonelab
>toured blowlab and some porn avatars

>discovered dungeon mode in bns
>viciously murdered some female npcs for a while
>hellspit arena has mixed reviews

I'm back to being bored of VR. What now?

>>402297492
I've just been doing my daily dose of Mercenaries on RE4VR.

>>402292219
psvr2?

>>402298161
I'm expecting it to be another case of PSVR1 where modern AAA games just have a small optional "VR" mode on the side that remains exclusive to it, alongside 4hrs-at-most VR experiences like that linear looking Horizon game coming to it.

Do hope that VR mode coming for PSVR2 of RE7 & 8 gets backported to PC though.

>>402293135
>but that is never going to be the case in a game
Part of the reason AAA game sizes are so bloated is because they use duplicate assets in the right places to minimize loading times.

>>402298161
That is fair psvr to will help maintain some of the higher target spec games, but it dose not really change that there is a content drought. Nobody is making vr games in general there is a high demand for games and not enough developers willing to put in the r&d to actually figure out vr ux. Hens why people over hyped bonelab, there is just fucking nothing else coming out so too many people latched onto it convincing them them selves that it was going to be their dream game. When no, bonelab was always going to be another weird obtuse physics tech demo, that is what slz wants to make.

>>402297492
wtf is blowlab?

>>402298854
Some porn mod for bonelab. It's shit. Has 3 barely interactable anime dolls and a physics cylinder locked on 2 axies.

Boys, I did it, I played Bonelab for the first time and I really, really didn't like it
Tell me that the future of it will be fun with mods at least

>>402089105
M1 Garand, also pistols
The Garand usually feels really fucking good to shoot, and the reloading is fast and satisfying. I love WW1 rifles, so I also like shit like this >>402089635, but I'm not that into bolt action stuff

>>402301782
I don't see how mods would make Bonelabs any better unless someone just makes a fun campaign for it, which would be doing the developer's fucking job for them.

>>402301782
SL0 seriously need to fix the physics and the gun handling, then sit their ass down and make the first big update a proper campaign.

>>402301782
Remember, they don't want players, they want CREATORS
>What are these creators making?
Hope you like avatars and ported maps

boneworks best part was the music, is the ost of bonelab any good?

>>402306139
it's pretty good but boneworks's imo is better

>>402285916
the model is very nice

So what exactly “new” features or upgraded features are there for bonelab? a sequel should usually improve on the first, not degrad everything from the first game?

Only thing I can really say is an upgrade is the modalities but they could literally just have made a update for boneworks instead but seems more like bonelab is a cash grab to make people pay full price for modding features

>>402306139
mostly but too many whiny vocal performances and off-genre oneshot songs

>>402311615
Songs a good but doesn’t fit the game and areas just have a Spotify song playing on loop until you move to the next room. No dynamic or atmospheric music that’s changes appropriately to what you are doing

>>402307675
>>402246527
if they weren't going to add physics to the tail why did they leave it posed erect?

>>402311891
no idea, but it does move a little.

>>402298610
I was honestly surprised BL had a campaign at all. From the pre-release stuff and then name I thought it was just Gary's mod.

Outer Wilds or Elite: Dangerous next? I've already played both games in flat mode but I want to try one of them out in VR.

>>402207676
Yes. Some were software side bugs, distrotion and other shiet and they patched that I guess but even the varjo is not without flaws.

>>402324685
outer wilds is fantastic but as you know you can't really replay it. I'd say ED unless it's been long enough since you beat OW you can't remember the details. or you could play the expansion.

>>402327498
Cheers anon, was wondering if it would be worth revisiting some of the more trippy spots in OW.

>>402327724
it can be, though also the bad framerate of the game diminishes the experience more so in VR.

Upcoming ItR weapons. Looks like:
>deagle
>a different? glock
>M14
>something else

>>402311164
>avatar properties and swapping
>new guns, shotguns being the biggest addition
>better modding systems
and movement actually feels a bit more fluid this time around, though maybe that's only because i've upgraded my rig since playing BW. Stuff that was especially janky like pulling yourself onto ledges is a breeze in BL.

>>402329729
I assume the glock is a full auto variant/upgrade.
The other gun resembles an FAL front end. It's not completely accurate but I have no idea what else it could be.

>>402329729
Why are they still adding guns, does the game really need more?

>>402329729
Personally I'd rather have a FiveSeven (for AP capabilities) but if the Deagle has enough piercing to be viable late-game I'm for it still.

>>402329729
>deagle
that's sick
I wonder if they will ever add more melee weapons viability like chainsaws and katanas or some stupid throwing knifes

>>402331392
>>402335741
>>402336973
What I'd like most is durability implemented on all applicable items. It's obviously not intended for knives to break in 5 hits while one roll of paper can spawn infinite sheets. That and customisable backpacks and rigs.

>>402337147
knives breaking in 5 hit made sense when they were op but yeah in 2.0 they deserve a buff

Please talk about something

>>402349095
Do you want to bitch about bonelab?

>>402329729
Revolver chan where?

Also deagle only run SOON

>>402349095
now that I can officially add furry avatars to bonelab they're topical to this thread

>>402331392
Early access course. Once studios land a hit with the "upgrade soon" scam, there wont ever be another game from them, they hit a cash cow with a cult following throwing money their way for new meshes. I mean, does anybody expect facepunch to ever make another game then adding shit nobody wants to Rust

>>402351584
I don't see the problem with this. I don't have to keep paying them.

>>402352090
I would prefer they worked on adding new maps than new guns. By the looks of things they're adding heavy weapons which has been a highly requested feature. Should make kolhoz a bit more bearable and also allow for a new area to be full of bullshit hard stuff. I know it probably won't happen with how dodgy pathing and enemy AI is in that game but I'd love to see a close quarters map like a section of pechorsk proper. Lots of verticality and buildings, maybe an open park in view of snipers in windows. A highway full of burnt out cars. I'd also like to see the scythe anomaly properly used for puzzles like it was in 1.0's train station.

>>402349095
is Into the Radius worth it?

>>402356232
Yes, one of the best if not the best VR game

>>402307675
At the least they could have textured the hair to match everything else in the game?

>>402321236
>From the pre-release stuff and then name I thought it was just Gary's mod.
If Bonelab was just VR Garry's Mod, and had multiplayer support, it'd have probably been better received at $10-15

>>402351584
Game really should have kept the early access thing on Steam. They dropped it eons ago, and then a year and a bit later dumped v2.0 which basically was a different game so they could port it to Quest (which people seem to like despite it looking muddier than an N64 game)

>>402172670
What are good coomer games you recommend?

>bonelab shitpost gokart level with eurobeat was composed just for the game
are you shitting me, this is way too good to be so much out of the composer's comfort zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyT-IXptNNM

>>402357216
I agree regarding price - I accept inflation so what was once £15 is no longer, but £30 is steep for this. £20 would've been fine.

I think they've managed to not be gmod, not be a campaign driven game, not be a AAA PCVR experience, and just sit in the middle in the least satisfying way imaginable.

All that said, I still think bonelabs is fairly good - and it does run better and jank less than BW for me. I look forward to the mods because there isn't much else to do.

>>402365304
Dumb /n/nigger.

>>402369114
But I don't like trains anon.

>>402357216
Its easier. Instead of taking risk and having to invest in a new project, keep the base game, add a few new meshes here and there, port it to a new platform, milk more cash with the same base game.
The strange thing, they could milk the cows better at about the same risk if they would apply the Rockstar formular. Keep the base game but release new map packs with new stories and a few technical upgrades every few years at full price

>>402357216
When Bonelab was announced I remember a lot of people were just expecting it to be a QUESTED version of boneworks while we wait for the real Boneworks 2. What happened since that changed those expectations?

>>402371362
People got hyped to consoom.

>>402371362
It's likely different people. Hearing quest immediately makes a lot of people expect the former. I imagine people expecting some kind of g-mod type experience were watching the gameplay videos they released, because they definitely seemed to put an emphasis on customizability and sandboxy stuff.

>>402371362
boneworks 2 will never happen

>>402369649
I will give props to the ItR devs for not trying to milk 2.0 as a new/upgraded release that you had to pay for, even though the game up to that point early access in all but name. It definitely feels like a passion project.

>>402371362
>What happened since that changed those expectations?
Probably that it was also announced to be coming to PC months after the original announcement of it being a Quest project.

If it was strictly Quest exclusive, expectations would have been vastly lowered.

>>402374213
I think the reality of most future games being multiplatform with standalone has also fully set in. There's little hope for PCVR only titles from anything but the smallest of indie devs now.

>>402374658
It's unfortunately what's needed to keep VR game development alive, otherwise it'd still be very niche from the smallest of indie devs like it was prior to the Quest launch. The closest shit we had to AAA outside of Alyx were those little self-contained modes within a AAA game on the PSVR1 side of things.

>>402121121
I can't remember who it was but this one review I watched right before buying claimed a 14hr campaign, incredible what these guys are getting away with saying. I can't refund bonelab anymore obviously but the modding community being as active as it is already makes me kinda hopeful. Soon I'll be able to wash away the disappointment of the story mode by just replaying boneworks in bonelab.

>>402121121
>this man is overselling the game far far more than he ever should have
Shillseeker hyping "new thing"?
Say it ain't so!!!

It just werks

>>402121121
He fucked his integrity over with it pretty hard.

>>402122178
He's a closet transwoman.

>>402380159
Neat. Only issue I'd have with this is you're sacrificing FoV, but if your alternative otherwise is a blurry view, it's a necessary trade-off if you don't want to pay for prescription VR lens.

>>402374658
PSVR2 will result in a bunch of AA titles. Maybe some AAA too, but they might be exclusives.

>>402380712
anon i have like -7 on both eyes.
>FOV
actually i dont feel like i lost any of the range. If you look closer you can notice the handles go beyond the the original ring's shape

>>402380159
Im more surprised you have a working Rift S in 2022

>>402381480
Usually it's just the Rift-S controller or mic that goes to shit, not the headset itself.

>>402381754
Its always the cable that goes to fuck.

>>402382108
I can't recall, did Rift S use a propriety cable that Facebook didn't own the production rights to like they did the CV1? It made sourcing a new cable for CV1 aids after they stopped making more.

Any games with the same type of setting as boneworks/bonelabs, but with fun gameplay?

>>402382290
Yes. Its the USB3/DP one that costs like 100+$ now.
If mine craps out i'll probably just save up and buy a quest 2

>>402381480
I've had one from near launch that still works fine but it's falling apart from wear and shitty design decisions.
The top strap was held on by a small piece of plastic that eventually sheared off from years of picking it up. Pic related is not mine but shows where it happened, Quest 2 has a similar flaw so I can't even blame Lenovo for it. Glue didn't work so it's now held on with cable ties
Despite being extremely careful with the cable I had to wrap part of it in electrical tape after the friction against my back wore the rubber coating away.
I broke the tightening knob because the thin, smooth untextured wheel offered no grip to sweaty gamer hands unless I squeezed the shit out of it. Thankfully it was an easy fix.
On the controllers the rubber grip is peeling and I occasionally need to spray contact cleaner in the sticks otherwise they'll start drifting. They've been dropped many times, put dents in my wall and withstood multiple punches into a brass doorhandle so I don't think the reputation of them being fragile is deserved.

i want to play VR but there are NO GAMES. maybe i play some active/exercise games-- what do you play to move your body

Next Fest is up, post some interesting looking demos.
Looks like some Yume Nikki Pokemon Snap kinda thing.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1050260/Isle_of_Pan/

>>402291812
>>no audio jack
why the fuck

>>402398110
Thrill of the Fight is pretty exhausting.

>try building something in bonelab
>the props are shit
>no PHX equivalent
>ballsocket only, no wheel constraint
>no way to save

Any multiplayer VR FPS that has a good speed to it? Pavlov is alright but I wouldn't mind something with a quicker TTK and respawning on the side.

I need a vr engineering game that isn't Primeribiter.

so singleplayer VRFPS where we fight and kill other humans as the primary enemy when?

>>402405161
Medal of Honor?

>>402405945
i heard that was not very good

>>402406830
It sure wasn't. I'm amazed it even got a Quest port despite how fucking atrocious/filesize-bloated it was on PC.

>>402405161
Try Alyx mods

so bonelab finally has shotguns but they still didnt put in a double barreled sawed off one

>>402401943
What was it supposed to do besides sodomise?

>>402413810
Sodomize. And sodomize.

https://youtu.be/htY7ljW3E8I

Feel a New Real™

>>402398110
any rhythm game is good for movement, beat saber is my go-to.
boneworks/bonelab usually ends up fucking me up just because of the amount of movement they have you doing - arms were sore day after BL release because i went too hard punching nulls as strongfat man.
bean stalker was another good one, any climbing-focused game that has you repeatedly putting your hands over your head tends to be alright

>>402398110
mostly Beat Saber, i regularly use it for cardio workouts
if not that, then Pistol Whip, but its kinda boring as I don't really like many songs in it

>>402419492
Pistol Whip made me wish the average headset FoV wasn't so shit.

>>402414410
Hopefully Sony stays the course of porting shit to PC that they have started and we actually get some fucking games.

I know, >unranked, only Beatleader etc. but
>FC YMCA for the memes
>Check BL for the hell of it
>#1
Not sure if a brag but I'll take it

>>402371362
I was one of the people who expected it to be QUESTED, but then we got a bunch of hype from different sources and I kind of forgot about "Project 4" because they gave it a different name.

>>402371362
It feels quested, and it's janky, and it's short, and it's more expensive than boneworks. But they worked hard on the mod support, so you're kind of paying for the platform in a sense. And it's actually amazing that the avatar system works as well as it does.
In the end, well - I'm starving for solid vr content and slz are one of the only devs even trying to do something new and good.

>>402360821
nta, but koikatsu is great in VR and super easy to play.
VAM gets recommended a lot but it's a fucking mess, if you can be bothered to spend hours learning and setting it up it can be good but I couldn't be arsed.
Then there's Skyrim VR sex mods, another good but kind of a pain in the arse to set up game, I don't think it's as bad as VAM though.

>>402398830
Maybe they thought no-one was using it so they cut it to save a penny in production costs.

I spent a few of months without playing VR anything, and I came back like 2 weeks ago and bros
VR gaming is so much fucking fun
Shooters are fun even when I'm losing, Alyx is incredible, the complexity of the weapons in ItR is so fucking good, Demeo is so good to play with friends and I've even been learning how to play Poker lately and having a blast. The only thing I don't really have fun with are sandbox games like B&S and Bonelab
I want more single player experiences like Alyx and ItR. I've played modded Skyrim and while it's pretty fucking amazing, it is just skyrim at the end, and I have like 3k hours in Skyrim already(and probably double that just modding it).
I've been thinking of Fallout 4 VR, apparently with mods it's pretty awesome, and I've never played Fallout 4 before, so it'd be a cool experience to do it in VR for the first time I think
I just don't see me playing much on flat screen anymore bros, and I'm pretty happy about it.

>>402433697
If you haven't played HL2VR, it's really good

>>402437018
It dropped and became VR game of the year

>>402432459
That's very cringe, but it's what every tech company is doing I guess so what can you do.
Is there some kind of usb-audio splitter so you could plug a charger and headphones in at the same time? I figure there'd be one since phones don't have audio jacks either.

>>402437143
>vrgoty is a fucking mod of a 2004 game
i guess vr is dead then

>>402121121
he's a literal vr chat tranny no wonder

Wait, people think they should add coop to ITR?
The devs have already said no but there's still idiots asking for it.

>>402451396
Why are you reading steam posts?

>>402433697
With Fallout 4 you may as well play it for the first time in VR with how mods have improved the VR version. What hurts it from being 100% definitive is that a lot of content mods won't work with VR due to dependencies not being compiled for VR, XDI specifically. Compare that to Skyrim where all the major dependencies have been ported so big content mods like Enderal (Play it if you haven't) just werk. When Fallout London lands you will have to be playing for that, but if you only care about vanilla content then it shouldn't matter.

>>402451396
idiots never listen.

>>402381326
...Buddy, as someone sitting around a -10, get contacts. The difference is night and day, and you can play VR games without issue.

Today is Pavlov day! Let's make it the best turn out of the year so far!

>>402464151
I will not come to Pavlov.

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Seach and Destroy!
At 1900 UTC+1
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

The server has an IP whitelist, whitelist yourself by going to sparkleyserver.top
Headpat people when you join anyway
Gem server maps! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2662720448

Pavlov killed the thread

>>402478898
You mean people here actually play games?

>>402478898
Good.

>>402478898
I wish CONTRACTORS would kill the thread.

I wish HL3 killed the thread (via bump limit)

>>402464521
based anime hater

>>402479258
Games aren't real.

I am so pissed off at Stress Level 0. These guys are the biggest hacks on the planet and thier mouth breathing zoomer questies fly out of the wood work to defend their scam artists. #lavagang. So fucking cringe they made the end of their shit ass "game" an invite to their "sekrit club" so they can manage outrage. I wonder if any devs were asked about On Da Moon after the game went live.

maybe you should buy a quest then grapefox

>>402455874
Do I have to buy fallout 4 again to play it in vr or is it just a mod for regular fallout 4? Also one thing I didn't like about skyrim vr was that melee never had enough reach to hit enemies before colliding with their bounding box. Trying to hit them would result in me being pushed upwards or away and out of reach. Hitting mudcrabs especially sucked because they'd fire me off into the sun when I clipped into their claw and they swung at me.

>>402496080
it has low gravityyy!!!! plus they wantt to introduce you to the sandbox mode (ignore that you have to go into a sandbox already to get the crane battery)
it was so coollll! it was so cool when my favorite youtuber played it!!!

>>402498176
Fallout 4 VR is separate so you have to buy or pirate it again. For Skyrim look at Planck. It completely rewrites hit detection for Skyrim VR and lets you get much closer as your bounding box gets smaller.

>>402498176
bro you just don't get it! they literally say they want builders not players (ever mind that the game is advertised as a complete experience for 40 bucks)!

What do I need for sub 6.9ms frametimes in Beat Saber on Linux? On Windows it gets 3.5-3.9ms on the same settings (low, to minimize GPU impact), but on Linux I get stuttery 6-7 ms, even though this should be enough for 144 Hz. SteamVR advanced frametimes say it's mostly "Application (scene)", and on Windows bars indicating this are halved compared to Linux.

>>402501107
Proton is doing weird shit, so it takes twice as much time on linux compared to native.
Profile the frame on both linux and windows, then compare to see who is the culprit exactly.
Then write a patch for proton that fixes the issue. Ez.

Or go back to windows, where you belong, if you are not competent enough to do that.

>HLVR not hostage to quest anymore
nice

>>402502936
My Quest would run so hot I swear it was cooking my eyeballs when I played this

>>402432030
Easy to play? The controls are complete ass, or did I do something wrong?

>>402502936
Hopefully this person is nice enough to add some comfort options, since the Quest version had pretty much fuck all. I can't deal with the slippery friction of HL1 or HL2, but the latter at least recently updated the game to quicken deceleration.

>quest update
>all it does is add a message telling me to create a meta account
Fuck I want a wireless valve headset

>>402521362
>buy Index
>have to make a Steam account to download SteamVR

>>402521578
I got a quest early on and already gave them my facebook. So I technically have an oculus account and a facebook account attached to it. They're asking me for a third account.

>>402521956
Your Oculus account becomes a Meta account as apart of the Horizon process.

>>402521362
Its annoying. You can skip it by going to the first step, then by launching another app

>>402433697
>VR gaming is so much fucking fun
so much this. I don't think I want to go back to 2D gaming
I have 100 hours in ItR and haven't even tried Alyx. play HL2VR, it's my first play through and it's really scary

>Kat Walk C2+ from kickstarter finally arrives
>Not exactly out of shape but ain't fit either
>End up running almost 4 miles in around an hour and don't even feel it till after I step off the device because of how immersed I was in the game
>Could've easily gone for longer if I had more time to play
I cannot believe video games and virtual reality are going to be the reason I finally get fit. Gamers will unironically be one of the healthier demographics whenever this kind of stuff gets decently cheap.

>>402543352
I'd rather just stream shit on a TV in a catwalk/exercise bike than deal with the sweat on my HMD's facial interface.

>>402544501
This- the only exercise you can get in vr is light. Lots of light good, but medium to heavy is too sweaty

>>402433697
Dead Effect 2 VR has a single player campaign, wich can be played by yourself or Co Op.

>>402544501
It bugs me to deal with my HMD getting foggy from sweating

>>402502936
bruh
>latest version released 02 Oct 2021
https://github.com/maxvollmer/Half-Life-VR
https://www.halflifevr.de/

>all the good games are horror games
wake me up when theres a good fantasy rpg out there

>>402547336
skyrim vr

>>402518980
Koikatsu? Try changing to a community steam controller profile.

>>all the good games are horror games
Maybe just stop being such a fucking bitch? There are no good real horror VR games. Well, at least native.

Oh no no no, "don't expect even 30% extra performance from 4090" bros, we got too cocky!

Linking the posts, so they are easier to find later.
>>401801225 (Cross-thread)
>>400824208 (Cross-thread)
>>401179212 (Cross-thread)

Is 3060 still good for VR in 2022?

>>402551425
>with dlss3 on, doubling framerates
Yeah dude i get 120hz* in my quest 2 too!
>*60hz ASWed

>>402554114
It's not dlss, idioto.

>>402554000
I'm using a 1060 6GB and it hasn't let me down yet.
Well I mean there are barely any newer VR games I've played because I don't know of any (aside from bonelab which ran well but i didn't like it)

>>402554153
All their other benchmarks were so why would this new single image of a benchmark not be?

>>402551425
It's weird how this is missing the Ti variants and the 3090, I guess they just forgot to add them.

>>402554569
Because they going to get fucked in the ass for false advertisement (like intel) if they don't mention it in the footnotes.

>>402554619
They always do it like that. 3090 is +-5% of 4082.

>>402554569
In all the other benchmarks note DLSS in the configuration when they are using it.

>>402551425
Fucking retard. Why are you this retarded?

>>402551425
Retardedass piece of shit.

>>402547302
doesn't sound like there's going to be any updates for two handing or reloading, but nice

>>402556225
>>402556323
See you in a week, bitch. I almost cannot wait.

>>402558784
Shut the fuck up retard.

>>402559305
I just know for the fact you are not going to come to the thread when reviews drop. So when you going to be crying, just remember that you deserve it because you are a fucking idiot.
Buy the rope, you will need it.

>>402559628
I literally will because the non shill benchmarks will determine me buying one or not, RETARD. It's just that you're a retarded shill that will be wrong, and is currently still wrong, yet you insist on spamming retarded opinions.

>>402559815
You are such a braindead imbecile, it's insane.
Good that your ass is already on fire, yet there is still a week to go.
I almost feel sorry for you.

>>402560092
>says the retard claiming something then posting "proof" that literally proves him wrong

Retarded ESL, not that you can even afford a 40 series to begin with.

>>402561825
>ESL
Ironic, coming from a braindead slavic monkey.
Already saved your disability checks btw? Don't push yourself too hard, it must be hard to live with only half a brain.

>>402562558
>muh slavs

You are so mad and retarded. Stay mad and retarded, dumb ESL retard.

>>402563259
You are retarded ESL yourself, you fucking idiot. You think it's not obvious? Hahaha.
You really are just projecting non-stop, aren't you.

>>402563456
No, because my English is fine, and I'm not posting retarded opinions that wont end up ever being true. Unlike you and your fucked up grammar. ESL retard.

>>402563791
>because my English is fine
If you are too retarded to notice your own garbage and too stupid to comprehend proper english, doesn't mean your english is "fine" and everyone else is an ESL, you overconfident cretin.
You are such a braindead ape. Kill yourself today, make the world a better place.

>>402564213
Point out my mistakes then, retarded angry ESL waste of oxygen.

>>402564309
>he doesn't notice it himself
Not going to spoonfeed you shit. Go read a grammar book, monkey.

>>402564394
>nothing to say

That's what I thought, dirty ugly ESL retard.

>>402564521
Keep eating shit and projecting, retarded ESL poorfag.

good thread

>>402564394
>grammar on 4chan
>>>/r/eddit

Now you're samefagging, bro?
Right when I thought that you cannot get any more pathetic.

I think you meant to write "couldn't", you fucking retarded ESL monkey.

Oh, now grammar is an argument again, huh? You really are a dirty worm.

>>402564884
How ironic. Retarded mentally ill ESL sack of shit.

>>402565747
Your lamps would have to be replaced soon if you keep projecting so much, retarded slavic samefagging poorfag.

>>402566596
Take your meds, obsessed braindead ESL gorilla.

>>402567016
You are the one who is obsessed. Stop replying to me, you cockroach.

>>402567191
I'm just calling you a retarded ESL, because your English skills are poor, and you're shilling nvidia for free. You're misleading people with your retardation.

>>402567583
You are a retarded ape, your english skills are no better, and you also are blatantly wrong and when confronted with facts you chimp out.
Just look at your reaction in >>402556225 >>402556323
You think that's how a proper human being would react? I don't think so.
Get some help or just straight up kill yourself, the world would be a better place.
And don't reply to me again, you are a fucking subhuman.

https://youtu.be/zvhQu0bUUMI

At least this helps us keep up with 100 posts per day

>>402568123
Yeah that's my reaction to you making a terrible garbage post thinking you've owned someone, when it's not a third party benchmark and the 3090ti isn't included. Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay ESL retard.

>>402570164
The only question I have: are you going to apologize for being a braindead chimp in a week or not, you fucking subhuman?

>>402570593
Ask yourself that, seething ESL trashmonkey. You're the one that wont be seeing a >30% average raw performance increase over a 3090ti.

Haha yeah that is pretty cool anon, anyways:
VR games, anyone?
I recently started with into the radius and like the fact that I can shoot at shit while lighting my cigarette

>>402571251
meds

I'm adding the post to the list, so we can gloat at retards later.
>>402571006
>>401801225 (Cross-thread)
>>400824208 (Cross-thread)
>>401179212 (Cross-thread)

>>402571251
Imagine seething so hard that you get the wrong posts.

>>402571378
>>402571251
meds, now

>>402571378
>at retards
at that retard*
It's just one rabid poorfag schizo.

>>402571134
something that i have noticed is that lots of vr games with medival sections or setting have bows and arrows, but no crossbows
not in blade and sorcery, which has guns through modding now
not in A Townshit Stale, which is dead and that probably explains it
haven't seen one in the Legendary Tales game either
Skyrim, H3 and Minecraft seem to have a crossbow, all other games where it would fit don't seem to have one
or i have missed them
is there a reason why bows get implemented but crossbows don't?

>>402572405
>but crossbows don't?
You would think that this would be more immersive?
Range weapons already have the advantage, that you don't need to feel any resistance as with swords hitting each other.
I can only explain it away by saying that many don't feel like crossbows would fit, as they somewhat handle like guns? I don't know.
Every argument I pull out of my ass sounds dumb. Crossbows would feel like a perfect fit for VR and fantasy

>>402571378
>we

ESL, retarded, AND a schizo.

>>402573094
Add samefag + braindead to it and you've described yourself perfectly.

>>402573471
Where's the samefagging?

you are so boring dumb retarded niggers

>>402572654
Easier to use too. I'm shit with bows in blade and sorcery.

>>402572405
Bows are iconic (main reason), feel good to use in VR and you can vary the force (never matters though)
Crossbow's main advantages don't apply in most games (no training and less strength required), so most of the time it's just a bow but slow and powerful. Why bother with new type of weapon if you can just make a stronger bow

>>402580270
can you pierce armor with bows in VR?
never paid much attention to it since headshots usually kill instantly
that and having to draw the bow vs having a shot ready when you need it

>>402582048
>having to draw the bow vs having a shot ready when you need it
Doesnt matter in VR since you can draw the string quickly
Armor pierce is game-specific, I guess you mean B&S, I don't know, didn't use the bow there
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if they do add a crossbow later on

>>402583907
in A Townshit Stale the different strength bows require longer to draw the string, so only if draw time is taken into consideration would a crossbow be viable?

>>402584201
Maybe? I could argue why do you need readiness in the first place, just use a sword

>>402584454
if the enemy is in a place that i can't reach easily or would put me in danger of dying
in that case the argument that you can simply draw the bow quickly would win again
i guess i just want another option besides the bow that doesn't have to do with throwing since i suck at throwing

>>402580270
Limiting draw speed or adding increasing amounts of shaking to the front of the bow the longer you hold back the string would give the crossbow some of it's real life advantages. I don't know if doing that would feel good in VR though.

>Dragon Fist VR Kung Fu now has a portable version
Ayy, I can be jackie chan away from my pc now.

Those ESLs are both Russian or from the BRICS block by the way, I can spot this EXACT fucking pattern of insecurity anywhere on the internet, I could write a thesis on this shit by now.
If you're not, holy shit, get help, you're not supposed to develop these symptoms outside the third world
Virtual realty gaming.

>>402598331
Stop spamming you schizo autist.

>>402502936
This isn't the same as the Quest version of Half Life 1. This is the same version that has been out for years on PC. It still doesn't have Blue Shift or Opposing force like Lambda1VR does.

>>402598331
>I can spot this EXACT fucking pattern of insecurity anywhere on the internet, I could write a thesis on this shit by now.
Elaborate on that.

virtual reality

>>402572405
The main reason's probably the novelty. Tactility is put on a pedestal in VR games and pulling back a bowstring is something different than the old 'point and shoot' you would get with a crossbow, which is already covered in most games with actual guns.

>>402617018
taht's not how big tits in pov look.

>>402618485
ywnbaw

>>402618638
God bless.

The voice chat in Contractors is a time machine. Over the past few days I've heard:
>Two guys screaming nigger at each other at the top of their lungs
>Multiple adults telling a 10 year old to kill himself and how to do it
>Far too many 'your mom' jokes
>An entire lobby repeating the same word for nearly 5 minutes
>Some kid getting screamed at and presumably beated by his parents
It's like I'm playing Modern Warfare 2.

>>402623327
VR voice chat, at least in actual games, is fun in a way I haven't felt for a while. The only other games I've played where voice chat feels this loose is some shooters more on the milsim side.

>>402623327
I noticed the same thing, I heard genuine lip smacking. This is the power of the Quest.

>>402623327
It gets extra good with all of the mic feedback due to the Quest 2 not having audio insulation. Listening to a kid get yelled at to clean his room with both parents taking turns in the middle of a game was real pleasant.

what are fun games to play with my bf on his headset
we did the giants vr demo and we'll swap playing beat saber until we're tired, games that are fun to watch as well as play I guess

>>402087971 (OP)
Been trying to fix this error with OVR to no avail. Already tried reinstalling it, verifying the files and even reinstalling SteamVR. Any ideas? I'm using a Rift S and everything worked fine until recently.

>>402637736
l o n d o n

>>402623327
pure sovl...

>>402646534
delete "noinapp" from launch settings

REEEEEEEE When's Gabecube VR?

>>402637736
Demeo?

>>402637736
There's a few games that use both your monitor and kb and mouse and another player on the headset, they're usually the hide and seek kinda type of game.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/541930/Panoptic/

This is an example, there's others, I think there's one where your bf will use the headset and you a mobile phone to play as a squirrel or some shit.

virtual reality

bump again because you negroes won't post

>>402675950
i'm still malding over bonelab

>>402675950
Hasn't been much of news lately or new releases.
>Youtubers still trying to shill Bonelab despite the backlash
>Nextfest on Steam has fuck-all for worthwhile VR demos

Mostly just been playing Resident Evil 4 here while awaiting Meta Connect in five days to see what's up with that likely garbage VR port of San Andreas.

>>402675950
just let the thread die, just like vr gaming

I wish bonelab would have enough content to justify the modding invitation gimmick, it has a potential to be a really cool platform but implementing one single unfinished level after tutorials and suggesting players should expand it themselves just doesn't feel right. Two extra hours of content would save this game.

>>402678884
My best guess is that they were running out of money and had to release

>>402677008
but I need somewhere to my post my webums

>>402679210
yachatta

>>402679210
What the fuck is this cancer lmao

>>402678884
>players should expand it themselves
You can't even make content in VR, what were they thinking?

>>402676209
>likely garbage
Why?

>>402679664
It's some oldfag touhou video copied in vrchat or something like that

>>402676209
>backlash
what backlash? people seem enthusiast about bonelab if you check the oculus reviews

>>402683824
Questies who never played boneworks are literally not allowed to have opinions

should i buy bonelabs? boneworks was like 5/10 to me

>>402685942
no

lmao

>>402685942
Fuck no, bonelabs is boneworks but worse

>>402683824
>oculus reviews

>it begins

>>402687406
https://twitter.com/htcvive/status/1577992069200609283

Sigh the building before realising they're revealing more trash

>>402687406
The HTC hype train has crashed so many times I refuse to even go near it.

all I want is a headset that looks like pic related

>>402687819
Soon.
>inhales deeply

>>402687406
HTC fucking sucks ass. I need Valve.

>>402687819
>>402688124

>want to get a pcvr headset
>only options that arent dogshit are to spend $1000 on an index or like $600 on the reverb with its shitty controllers and tracking
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>402692318
Time to get zucc'd

>>402692318
Pico 3 is better and cheaper than both of those, unless you're... oh dear. Better luck next time.

>>402693005
>no headphone jack

>>402693125
3, not the 4. If we're talking PCVR then the neo 3 still wins with the DP cable. And it has a headphone jack, of course.

wish i could go into a coma and come out 20 years in the future when there are some actual games for this shit

>>402694967
And when actual good headsets and GPUs that can power them exist.

>We are really looking forward to bringing BTR’s readers the pancake and VR gaming benchmarks of these new cards – stay tuned!

Really hope these motherfuckers already have a 4090 that they're running VR benchmarks on right as we speak.

>>402686468
>singleplayer game gets less players after launch
yes, now go back >>>/v/

>>402698627
>he thinks dropping to 10% within just one week is normal for singleplayer games
cope harder

>>402693005
using a standalone headset either wired or wireless for pc sounds like a terrible experience

>>402706035
Why? The Pico 3 comes with DP for wired and not having a wire under foot if you go wireless is great.

>>402693125
>not femboy thights
jbaited

Is this a good virtual reality videogame?

>>402710808
I have no idea

>>402683824
>Oculus reviews
Ah yes, the kids with no expectations, nor experience with the prior game for a point of comparison.

>>402687406
Can't wait for it to be yet-another standalone Vive headset not meant for gaming as its primary use.

>>402680776
Same devs who ported LA Noire VR, which was 1/4 the length of the actual game it's based on. Also that the GTA:SA version they'll use as a base is likely the shitty Android version that was also used for the GTA:DE release that was much maligned.

>That'll be $99.99 plus tax sir

>>402715209
What's this for?

>>402702426
10%? That's impressive for such a lacking game, who are you kidding? I guess there's also not many other games to play.

>>402715209
Damn that's expensive.
>>402715458
You plug it into your pc to get a better connection for Airlink.

>>402711808
LA Noire VR was good for its time, and it was short because that's what publishers did back in the day, dipping their toes into VR. As far as we know SA is unlikely to be cut down like that.
The android port is fine, DE's biggest problem was the shitty models and textures.

>>402687406
lmao their hedsets are trash dude

I tried every VR demo.

Steam Next Fest VR Demos October 2022
>Good
Not Good

Aquarist: Blank box aquarium.
>Ashen Arrows: Viking arrow shooter with narration.
>Beer and Boomerangs: Double dipper. New demo and now more structured.
Black Trail: Walk and shoot cowboys at 30 fps.
Cities VR: Broken controls.
Cyberpunk Samurai: Crashes, very on brand.
Dark Invasion: Broken controls.
>District Steel: Classic Half Life but with robots.
>Egression: Actually good escape rooms? The demo has only the tutorial.
Grim Lord: Broken controls.
Isle of Pan: EU Pokemon Snap abomination.
Let it Boom: Blow things up sandbox.
Mythlink: Monster dueling? Impossible to start a game.
>Noun Town: Double dipper. Crashed, but was good last time.
Octoraid: VR + Mobile asymmetric shooting. Online but no matches.
Orbital Strike: Broken controls.
Parabellum Galaxy: EVE in VR, complete with hour long maneuvers.
Patcher: Spent 10 hours on UI and 10 minutes on gameplay. TDM.
Phantom Matrix: Throw objects at people.
Teahouse of Souls: Make tea for depressed blobs. Scuffed English and clunky physics.
Unblocking: Reverse Tetris.
Unification: Platforming in a small box.
VR Giants: Local only asymmetric coop platforming.

NA VTOL tonight at 9pm EDT
Gonna see if a vpn will make the host connection better.

>>402723989
appreciate the effort

>>402723989
Thanks, I usually try them all out but the last one had so much shite that I lost interest.

>>402702426
I'm not an investor, a publisher or a dev so I don't see why this should matter to me or literally anyone here. Thanks for the bump, but please bring something meaningful to the table next time.

>>402723989
>>Egression: Actually good escape rooms? The demo has only the tutorial.
Was pretty much the only one that appealed to me of what I tried. There's barely any good escape-room VR games when the medium is perfect for it. It's just The Room VR and IEYTDs which are both short, and don't allow free exploration of the environment.

Anyone play Runner yet? Is it worth getting on the Quest store, or should I wait for a Steam release?

Pic related

What the fuck do the ID cards do?

>>402723989
I only tried the District Steel and Dark Invasion demos and didn't like either.
>>402741136
Apparently there are card readers around the levels, when you use them they make a noise and _____________________do nothing________________________________________

>>402273716
late reply but turn the drum sound compensation to 0

also, Ragnarock lobby happening in around 30 minutes, pleas come play

>>402650315 (Cross-thread)

Why is Konami so fucking retarded
P.T. would be the absolute best game to play on VR

>>402744215
Because Yugioh VR would be far better revenue return.

>>402715209
This looks like a D***o even has the base

>>402744702
That also doesn't exist because Konami is so FUCKING RETARDED

>>402744889
They had a sizable booth for Yugio in TGS VR, so I would hope that means they know there's interest for it.

>>402723989
Somehow I missed it previously but the District Steel demo was great. Unusual for indie VR devs to have good sound and music. Perhaps the most polished VR demo I've played, hopefully the full game has the amount of content to match.

>>402745706
ive had trouble with that game further in where i couldnt shoot at all, id have to continuously pull the trigger on my quest 2 controller for it to work. i just hope its actually the game and not my controller

>>402723989
>Unblocking: Reverse Tetris.
Like Tetrisphere or something else?

>>402725605
LOBBY:
NA VTOL
PASSWORD
hotdog

my new hobby is angrily scrolling through comment sections of retarded kids defending bonelabs

Been playing some take and hold in his vr but I'm getting a little tired of the default map and the snow one is way too empty. Where do you go for custom maps and weapons

>>402754296
But their streamer/youtuber said it was good, they can't possibly be wrong!

Where do you go for h3vr mods. I need new take and hold maps

>>402760693
A modmanager called r2modman

>>402761047
Do I need thunderstorm? I tried installing thunderstorms once and it wanted to add several plug-ins and a launcher streaming thing.

>>402754296
sounds like sane behavior

Keycard does fucking nothing.
(Door One of ?)

Before the big dive (Skull and Crossbones)
(Door Two of ?)

After the Big Dive
(Door Three of ?)

Just past the area where the cart goes under you.
(Door Four of ?)

Just past the last area.
(Door Five of ?)

Just past parallel tracks
(Door Six of ?)

Right before the Bridge section (Didn't notice until walked over)
(Door Seven of ?)

Right past the Bridge in the Lava zone
(Door Eight of ?)

Second lava creek door
(Door Nine of ?)

Right after the Second Lava Creek before the planks.
(Door Ten of ?)

Right after you break through the Planks.
(Door Eleven of ?)

Right inside of Banjo Town
(Fun fact, right before this, there is an alternative Track fully modeled you can't go down)

(Door Twelve of ?)

Fun fact
Here's a cut Boulder track.
More specifically, the boulder.
This is a track which went above the opposite Carts track.

whats with all these images?

>>402768837
They're images from a VR game. VR games are a type of game that are rendered inside a VR headset in order to create the illusion that the player is inside the world

>>402768837
>>402769024
Bonelabs

>>402723989
thanks for the effort anon

Why the fuck were the psvr2 demo games all 60fps reprojections when the hardware can easily do native 90hz?!? Apparently the reprojection is poorly implemented as well. You just know damn well sony is gonna be waving that in front of devs as an easier, effortless way of optimizing.

>>402783424
>when the hardware can easily do native 90hz

Because it clearly can't.

>>402783424
psvr2 native is 120hz.
with the kind of visuals they want to push, native is just not possible. foveated rendering is not a panacea

Is there a way to have mods on boneworks and h3vr without thunderstore.io?

>>402784463
If a mobile chip can than why not the rx5700 equivalent?

>>402784834
For H3VR I use cracked r2modman, which is what thunderstorm mod manager is based on
If you want to avoid thunderstore altogether you'll have to find alternative hosts, but I don't know any. Besides you can download mods manually without login or from modman

>>402785096
I wouldn't know.

I want metro 2033 in VR

It's actually over, bros.
Bonelab was the final nail in the coffin for VR gaming, a rushed cashgrab.
They knew they could make easy millions from the Boneworks fanbase buying the game without hesitation.
There is absolutely nothing else interesting on the horizon.

>>402794261
>fanbase is quest 2 kids who watch game theory
>this will be the target audience for every single VR title going forward

>>402794261
>Bonelab was the final nail in the coffin for PCVR gaming
ftfy
questlets are more than happy to gobble up shovelware garbage

>>402794261

>>402785096
because games would need to look worse and snoy ofc doesnt want their vr games (tech demos) to look bad

VRITUALF REAFLIVTY

EU VTOL at 1800 UTC today, Friday

>>402715209
>$100
How is this better than the $70 wifi 6 router?

>>402803916
oh nice, that means I could finally join for once

I know there's no concrete way to measure, but how bad is the compression/latency on Virtual desktop? Is it worth not having the wire?

I haven't finished HL2VR

>>402805130
Dedicated wifi link for one device without worry of other devices taking any bandwidth. Also more portable.

>>402794261
For me VR is just continuing to be a vehicle for playing Skyrim and Assetto mods. Some guys are using Skyrim to remake Vampire the Masquerade Redemption which looks cool and will be better in VR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HplJEzutBog&ab_channel=Galejro

>>402813196
Then stop shitposting and go back playing it

>>402089105
H3 taught me that ARs are uncannily comfortable about as you'd expect. Bolt actions are also strangely cozy.

post screenshots of vr games you recently played

>>402821592
Man I haven't played VR in months again. Really wanting to die.

>>402821592
Vertigo 2 when

>>402822930
>Demo came out in 2019
>still no date for full release
suffering

btw. is the sandbox dlc for the remaster any good?

>>402823132
no

>>402803916
EU VTOL server up! Server name EU VTOL, password "hotdog"

See you there!

>>402825104
>tfw just remembered I bought vtol during that sale and I haven't installed it and I forgot I had it

>>402825386
its tiny, like 2 GB, install it and play with us!

>>402825512
I have a G2 I can't.

>>402786460
Thats stupid. Thunderstore is a pain in the ass and it runs a ton of stuff i don't want. Who the fuck made a monopoly out of vr modding

>>402827813
What stuff are you talking about exactly? Again you're welcome to use manual installs

>>402089105
Fully automatic anything. Spraying people down is so satisfying in VR in a way that it isn't with traditional controls.

You can be black in B&S now.

alright uninstalling B&S

>>402831038
wake me when you can configure enemies to be only black

>warpfrog would rather put niggers ingame than to make npcs use 2handers/polearm

>>402831038
Can I force-spawn ethnicity like I can their sex?

>>402840465
Blame their software dev then. Skin colour/face-slider shit is an artist problem, not a programmer.

Is No Man's Sky worth it in VR?
Never played it before, been interested in flying around space in something other than Elite Dangerous
Do the motion controls work with the ship?

>>402859980
I haven't touched it in over a year, but I absolutely hated the virtual joystick controls when I have two perfectly functioning joysticks on my controller that I couldn't use for it. Ground stuff in VR is pretty comfy though. Game absolutely needs an above average CPU for VR though to minimize stutter as much as possible, as the game is fucking hungry in that regards.

How on earth is San Andreas supposed to be playable In VR?

>>402862834
I honestly don't know how you could make it comfortable enough with its driving handling either, especially with a first-person perspective (cops just coming in and T-boning you). The graphics would need a bit of an overhaul also to not stand out like a sore thumb like it already does in the botched DE release. That's ignoring how brain-dead the game's AI is also.

>>402859980
I had fun playing it but it's a huge performance hog and the graphics really don't feel like they justify it. The pop-in and AA are really bad compared to the flat version.

There's a lot to explore with all the updates now so maybe it's worth the sale price if you really like the sound of space/planetary exploration and crafting. The other parts of the game like combat and quests are more of a side dish even with the additions they've made over the years. Base building is required for the story and seemed decent if that's your thing; I just built the minimum to continue the story and get access to vehicles.

;^)

>>402866474
>3Dmark

>>402866474
Nothing like making your PC cost a dollar an hour to play VR games.

>>402860129
>but I absolutely hated the virtual joystick controls when I have two perfectly functioning joysticks on my controller that I couldn't use for it
Eh, that sucks
>>402860129
>>402864694
>Game absolutely needs an above average CPU for VR though to minimize stutter as much as possible, as the game is fucking hungry in that regards.
>but it's a huge performance hog and the graphics really don't feel like they justify it.
That breaks it for me, my CPU is a Ryzen 5 2600 and I have a 1660 super, it'll probably stutter like a motherfucker
I'll probably wait to play it when I get a HOTAS and a better setup then, thanks anons

>>402866474
Remember when the 4080 16GB leaks were > 15k? How foolish we were.

It's really fucked when the 4090 ends up looking like the best card on relative price to performance vs the 4080s.

>>402866474
30% schizo bros, I don't feel so good...

>>402867221
AFAIK you can't use a HOTAS in NMS, at least not in VR. Also, their flight controls are really bad. When you tilt the stick left and right it controls yaw instead of roll and there's no way to change that. Its garbage compared to something like VTOL VR

rest in piss

>>402866474
Does anyone do VR benchmarks? Since VR games can't really do temporal upscaling tricks without looking awful.

>>402890293
let the thread die, you stupid fucking faggot

When is chroma/technicolor in beat saber going to work again? Don't even want to play it without them at this point

>>402890441
not him but make a new thread you lazy stupid faggot

>>402890985
What?

>>402890441
go back to your vrchat general pedo

>>402891829
cope
dead thread, dead industry

>>402891901
thanks for keeping the thread bumped retard

>>402892343
>newfag doesn't know how 4chan works
heh

>>402831038
Aaaaaaaand deleted

>>402890293
babeltechreviews has done some VR benchmarks. They're one of the only people I've seen who've done as such.

TSE doesn't use the DLSS hackery so that's pure rasterization performance, which is pretty significant and you can extrapolate some relative gains from it, give or take around 10% most of the time.

>>402868513
I guess with aftermarket OCs we'll get 10-15% more out of the 4080, but that'll probably push the price up to $1100-1200. Let's see what you can actually buy a 4090 for...

virtual reality

so what are they making next?

>>402913317
who cares

>>402915341
i do

Walkabout up! Join private game "vrg"

>>402866474
its a real shame the 4090 is xbox hueg

two more weeks vrchads

>>402926757
For what? 40 series?

>>402927950
for two more weeks

I finally finished Bonelabs. It was fun. It was also worse than Boneworks in most ways - it ran a bit better on my PC (1080ti so low end these days) and it on CTD'd once whereas BW CTD'd a lot at release.

I really do like the avatar switching system, I don't think they utilised it particularly well in the game but the concept is great. Being big tall guy terrorising the villagers at the end was hilarious, I wish there were grenades or explosives and then I would peak over their walls and throw boomsticks at them.

Looking forward to mods I guess, after I put my measurements in properly the space warp worked really well too. I thought it significantly improved presence, I'd be very pleased to see something like it in other games.

I'm not convinced of the replayability of the game either. I really enjoyed replaying BW levels, but there aren't many places I couldn't get to or really wanted to explore in BL.

>>402929137
Stupid \n\nigger.

>>402930874
Why did you delete such a good post?

Bumb niggas

>>402947810
fuck you die

>>402929137
>Being big tall guy terrorising the villagers at the end was hilarious
I expected myself to like fast/light characters, but in the end I think the most pleasant thing to do in bonelab is punching enemies using thicc avatar. it's hard to show it on video, but it just feels so right

>>402947965
There's a moment on the bridge level - I suspect for every player - when you wonder "Can I punch the bones off a skeleton?". You then sock a skeleton in the skull and it arcs off to oblivion leaving the rest of the skeleton to collapse.

It's brilliant, and such a great sense of power compared to other avatars. I wish there were more enemies with detachable bits for strong guy. E.g. tearing the legs off headset crablets.

>>402913317
Probably DEADFM. Also, apparently bonelab got split into 2 separate projects in 2020, so we might get something sooner than we think.

>>402948741
maybe that explains the weird secret area in tuscany that's only accessible activating and modifying certain chunks and yet was clearly meant for players to find

>>402948942
Have you noticed the weird tunnel system in the hub? Feels too big to just be a joke by the devs, even the music changes when you enter it. A story dlc wouldn't surprise me

>>402949158
ya i found that its way too elaborate to just be some weird joke its almost like the different areas would be cut off from each other at some point and that would be the only way around

>>402948741
DeadFM is Bonelab though, with Jimmy is the radio DJ
Boneworks is obviously Boneworks, but in DS it's referring to the Boneworks backend instead of the game itself

>>402949158
you mean the area behind the vent covers?

>>402948258
the skeletons don't have detatchable bits, just a unique death animation that spawns bone props in.
otherwise, they're reskinned zombies/nullbodies. enough to trick you into thinking the game has more enemy variety than it does, I guess.

>>402743334
I'll try to get a better feel for the game first, if that succeeds I will defo join the future lobbies.

>>402948741
BL surely is Dead FM.

>>402949158
>>402948942
It's interesting - the whole story is about breaking the game. That's what Jimmy does, and I wonder to what extent BL is a metagame arg. Meant to be explored with dev tools + melon loader etc., and that this is all intentional. The keycards are another example of this, and the fact that their output value is set to -1, which you can change in melon loader to get them working.

And odd things like keycards below the map floor etc. - many things seem to assume you're breaking the game, and much more overtly than BW.

I don't doubt that there'll be story added to the game in patches though, not least to fill in the various encrypted text logs. Also there's the weird void room in level 1. I could imagine DLC with story elements + new arenas/parkour/etc. and reusable content for mods or something.

>>402957449
Fascinating, and a bit of a shame. I really like the feel of smashing the skull and seeing it go flying; I wish there were enemies that were destructible in some way - even if simple.

Which vr headset is best for low lag fps games and no login required?