/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1348

new headsets this, new headsets that, my brother in christ i just want new games. I can only play mahjong for so long

i just want to not be sick as shit so i could actually use my headset

>>404998325
it's because of the way your tummy looks

>Marketplace seller for a Vive Pro Eye has been stringing me along for almost a week
I can't trust these fucking idiots on marketplace sites. Why is nobody selling this headset online for a decent price? It's outdated as fuck.

>>404998423
Same issues here, I just gave up on the vive pro eye.

>>404998409
yeah i don't like how i like irl why do you think i cope through vr?

>>404984867 (Cross-thread)
prove it

>>404998423
HTC prob doesn't make em anymore
didn't know they were getting scalped for like double MSRP
mine is collecting dust up on my shelf :(

Showing Vampire Hunter D in about 2 hours. I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

Putting up the swords of gurrah lobby right now!
Server: America
PW: 1984

>>404998423
just buy it from vive.com?

>>405000271
That's omega expensive because it also comes with vive wands and 2 controllers, neither of which the average enthusiast on here needs.
what we really need is an eye tracking addon for the index but a vive pro eye headset-only would be the next best thing.

I will be doing some NA Halloween costume group photos since perhaps not everyone will be interested in the costume contest. These will take place at the following times on Saturday:
9:30 EST
12:00 or 12:30 EST (or after the Halloween contest. I don't know when the contest will end so stay tuned but I will post here and give people at least 30 min notice)

also I'll be trying to compile an album of people's halloween costumes so catch me sometime this weekend. Have a good halloween!

>>404998178
see>>405000215

>>405000271
They don't sell them anymore.

>>404998423
How much is it going for these days?

>>404971624 (Cross-thread)
thank you all for coming!

see those who make it next week when we're freed from the shackles of october
going forward i dont think i'll restrict horror movies to just one month of the year tho

>>405002012
$800 for just the headset. Price would be fine if the Vive Pro specs weren't so outdated. The resolution is worse than the Quest. After the cost of index controllers (vive wands suck) and a face tracker addon I may as well just get a Quest Pro and battery packs.

Bonjour, /vrg/.

>>405002516
>Quest Pro
Eye/face tracking data accessible to the PC?

>>405002630
froggie!!!!

>>405002679
lol
lmao

>>405002516
Buy Vive Focus 3 instead

>>405002630
What's up, NickyW.

>>405002516
I think the biggest problem is that even after all that the eye and facial tracking shows up choppy for everyone else.
Of course there's the usual microphone issue and shit screen.

>>405002926
the choppiness is a vrchat issue

>>405002997
Ya well where else are you gonna go?

>>405003084
other platforms have had native integration for a while
vrc STILL doesn't

frens

>>405002706
Froggies.,
>>405002824
Just hangin, wbu

NickyW? More like NiggerL

>>405002679
People are already working on getting it running. I have a feeling that it will be working in a month.
>>405002796
Focus 3 costs more than Quest Pro with extensions and has the same horrible lenses as the Vive Pro 2. Which means the screen is incredibly blurry and has terrible god rays.
>>405002926
This has been fixed to an extent.
https://github.com/regzo2/OSCmooth

>>405003453
Oh fuck.
If that's fixed, I'd actually buy it.
If only the mic wasn't so garbage.

/vrg/ is reclining...

>>405004501
n-no it's not...

>>405004501
I like to think of it as diaspora.

>>405006371
why did I misread diaspora as diapers for a second there

>>405006371
we need to recombine as one big /vrg/!

>>405006531
You know why, you dingaling.

>>405006956
/vrggg/?

>>405004501
it's over

>>405000215
>swing axes
>win
simple as

>>405004501
/vrg is receding,

>>405000215
ggs

>>405007773
The gurrah goblins strike again! They can't keep getting away with it!

>>405007773
CRABCHADS WIN AGAIN WOO WOO WOO

>>405000215
ggs

>>405007765
that will be a thing of the past soon enough

>>405008296
>that eye-lens distance
jesus

>>405008428
its not meant for vr lol

>>404997961 (OP)
Repostan

::/vrg/ Halloween 2022 | October 29 ::

Halloween 2022 - EU - 8PM GMT+1 October 29 (London)
Halloween 2022 - NA - 10:30PM EST October 29 (New York)

3 Panel Judges
Judges have a score 0 to 5 for three categories (cute, spooky, creative)
Special category Excellent rated avatars to be judged all at the same time on the stage.
All the judges can only comment and chat with the contestant for 1.5 minute each costume showcase

Extra note:
Cute = Cute or Sexy, makes your heart go doki doki
Spooky = Spooky or Cool, makes you fear or amazed
Creative = Creative or Funny interesting things

>quest pro is same res as quest 2
>not even 120hz
lol
lmao

>>405008428
It's a new wagie workstation, not for gaming.

>>405000215
gg

>>405004501

>>405009752

>>404997961 (OP)
>AR sunglasses are real
>David Cage was right

>>404999810
Vampire Hunter D starting in 10-15 minutes. You can join off Silencen or anyone in New Cinema 1336 if you're interested.

Pypypy is up! Tuesday night! Yes!
https://vrch.at/j7dn9k8f

>>405011054
where's the doggie?

>>405009752
Vr cunny…

I hate pedos. Reason I quit vrc. too many pedos and too many kids

>>405018418
cool. see you at tipsy tuesday in 3 hours!

I love cunny simply because it's the best normalfag repellent.

How do I enjoy the new life I've been given as an anime girl in 2D paradise?

>>405019076
play mahjong

Welcome back to /DinnerCircle/ Part 21, on this coming Saturday the 29th(at 7pm EDT), we will eat burritos. Make'em, buy'em, steal'em what ever it takes to have that delicious Mexican style tortilla wrap thing. We will try CVR one more time with some better planning for the world. Expect to be ready to eat at 10 minutes past the hour!
Info to join will be posted before starting.
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20221029T19&p0=179&msg=%2FDinnerCircle%2F+Part+21&font=cursive

>>405019076
>>405019324

>>405019371
Mhhmmmm burritos...

>>405019076
Be urself and find other anime girls to cuddle with

>>405019324
dont do this

>>405018749
I disagree. One of the best normalfag repellants is the n-word, which is why we use it once (1) per day (or not at all!)

>>405020756
nice word

>>405011054
Thanks for coming, Dancers!
Can't believe Y and M are both dead

I need to start day drinking on workdays

>>405021664
n word used

>>405022339
I wish I could drink on weekdays again. I'm too afraid of being too hungover and sleeping through something important or feeling too sick to function. Being able to drink whenever I want and go on VR whenever I want was the best.

>>405022604
No I mean literally drinking at work

>>405022718
Isn't that dangerous? And wouldn't your boss notice and be mad?

>>405022786
Yes it is

>>405022936
Then you shouldn't do it!

>tfw Bonelab w/ the multiplayer mod eventually replaces VRC for social gatherings

>>405023349
lol

>>405023349
you'll have my attention when we can play mahjong in it

>>405023349
It's too finnicky to upload stuff on it I don't think it will catch on.

>people shitting on Quest Pro
Fucking kek. You'd think people would have learned by now about how Meta improves products over time. People also hated CV1 on launch.

>>405023646
I figure at a point with the mod tools, people will find a way to just do it all peer-2-peer.

>>405023696
>People also hated CV1 on launch.
The only thing 'hated' about the CV1 was a lack of roomscale, which didn't come until it got its Touch controllers a few months later, which happened to become the standard for all controllers since, minus Knuckles.

>>405024028
>I figure at a point with the mod tools, people will find a way to just do it all peer-2-peer.
If you want real Peer-2-Peer we can just literally do it in Photon-Unity

https://vxtwitter.com/lpcwstr/status/1584897071655817217
https://doc.photonengine.com/ja-jp/fusion/current/technical-samples/fusion-vr-shared

>>405024028
>The only thing 'hated' about the CV1 was a lack of roomscale
That makes it sound like a small issue. People kept shitting on them hard for not having room scale even if it was coming later. For Quest Pro it's the passthrough, and price, so obviously it's not the same comparison (although people did criticize CV1 launch for the price pretty hard), but various things are going to be improved through software to make the value proposition go way up compared to what it currently is doing. Even if that's simply just allowing face tracking and eye tracking to work through Link without needing dev mode on.

>>405024753
i mean you *could* roomscale
I had a 3 sensor setup with extensions in my bedroom that worked just fine

>>405024815
Well, room scale with motion controllers I mean, since room scale without motion controllers is kind of pointless.
People still did continue to spread the misinformation that CV1 couldn't do room scale though, even well after Touch launch.

>>405024927
it worked with touch at roomscale just fine
them not having touch at launch did suck for a bit but it honestly didn't take that long for em to come out
not like there was much to play with controllers in the meantime that would've warranted any kitbash solutions
that said: I bought hydras and leap motion to play around with hands before touch came out

>>405024753
>That makes it sound like a small issue.
When stacked up against the problems of the original Vive, I'll have taken CV1 (after Touch) over it any day.

>>405025298
>>405025101
Yeah, Vive wasn't perfect either and Touch was fine. But I'm just talking about how the overall community and public viewed the devices. Opinion was overwhelmingly negative. Still remained that way, but much less so after Touch launch and people began seeing how it was actually a pretty good headset and could actually be cheap, after the price drop.

Now with Quest Pro, people are thinking that it's basically a slightly better Quest 2 but shitty because it's $1500. But they haven't seen the potential of the cameras that can come from software improvements, they haven't seen the difference eye tracking and face tracking can make in apps as both input methods and for social VR, they haven't even realized how much of a difference the contrast and colors make for immersion, as if Pico 4's resolution bump makes it better than Quest Pro.

>>405026263
>they haven't seen the difference eye tracking
Eye tracking on QPro is a meme. The is a noticeable latency.

>>405026504
As far as I've seen some people reported this, but some people reported that they had a hard time trying to challenge it and that it was only breakable by looking to the hard left and right, so it could be down to physiological differences that the software is not perfect at accounting for. Either way, you can expect this to improve, because literally every tracking-related thing Oculus/FB/Meta has ever done, has been massively improved compared to when they launched.

>>405026832
If the native latency is noticeable even locally in the headset, you can basically forget about using it for the foveated rendering for PC.
Overall, the only real improvement over Q2 is the clarity at the edges of the lenses. DOA.

>>405027143
Foveated rendering isn't even that useful on native PC headsets with eye tracking, even with the software that exists. At most a 1.3x average improvement in GPU, but not CPU, so no benefits to CPU bound games.

Instead eye tracking will be useful as an input method, and for social VR.

But anyway, you can STILL expect the "native latency" to be improved. They did that for hand tracking. In fact hand tracking got a frequency/framerate improvement to people's surprise. It'll happen for eye tracking too, because the sensors themselves actually can do 120 fps.

>Overall, the only real improvement over Q2 is the clarity at the edges of the lenses
There are already reports coming out that BTFO this notion. And it'll only keep getting better over time.

>>405027749
Foveated will matter more when we start hitting human eye resolution. It still allows your GPU more headroom to supersample the area it knows you're looking at.

>>405028138
GPUs just got powerful enough to not care, the additional cost of fov memes is more than extra gpu power

>>405027749
>At most a 1.3x average improvement in GPU, but not CPU, so no benefits to CPU bound games.
Regardless of what trash like vrchat made you believe, CPU performance is not a real problem for VR.
You have no idea how fast modern CPU's actually are. Something like 5950x should chew and spit workload of vrchat proportions without even noticing it. The thing that we are somehow struggling to maintain solid 120fps is nothing but embarrassment.
But it doesn't matter how extra GPU performance you can get, we would always need more.

>There are already reports coming out that BTFO this notion.
Paid report by meta heh? QP is not worth buying, maybe something will change in 6 month, but for now it's the truth.

>>405028407
lol

>>405028428
And yet VRChat is still the entire reason a large portion of the PC VR user base is still using their headset. And it's still not necessarily true that there aren't other games that are CPU bound either. Either way, we're also not going to get many games that support foveated rendering on PC simply because a popular PC VR headset with eye tracking doesn't exist. It'll be more useful in the future for sure, especially with >>405028138, but not any time soon.

>>405028428
>Paid report
This is a copout. Even the very negative reviews give credit to various aspects that the headset does well, which isn't just the lenses. The bad value proposition however is still true.

>maybe something will change in 6 month
And it's a pretty safe bet that it will.

>>405028407
>GPUs just got powerful enough to not care
You sound like someone who doesn't run VR games at the headset's native refresh rate.

>>405029103
VRchat is not CPU bound. It's Dev-Competence bound. It's just not going to change.
Btw, you sound very invested, how much facebook pays per post?

>>405029259
>VRchat is not CPU bound. It's Dev-Competence bound. It's just not going to change
So, still CPU bound then, and its popularity isn't going to change, true.

>how much facebook pays per post?
0$, pretty amazing huh. Honestly though, it's just incredibly funny to me how little people have learned from history. Some things never change.

>>405029127
Yeah thanks to cpu bound games

>>405029436
>0$, pretty amazing huh.
A bit embarrassing honestly. Imaging shilling a subpair product of multibillion dollar corporation for free.

I refuse to believe people would unironically shill for facebook.
That Pajet is getting paid 100%.

SIRS PLEASE BUY META QUEST PRO HEADSET
SIRS
VERY GOOD VALUE
IT WILL ONLY GET BETTER WITH TIME, DON'T BE STUPIDS, ORDER TODAY

I can't tell if the Bobo M2 is ass, or my head is too big for its design. Its recommended 'angle' for the Quest 2's arms has me way out of the sweetspot for the lens. Had to replace the giant padding on the forehead piece with something thinner to close the gap to my face, and now I'm looking at something to make the back half rigid on it so it doesn't keep sliding up over time.

>>405029721
You mean like Index? Or maybe even Vive? I've "shilled" for all the headsets before, because people were retarded and spreading misinformation even if unintentionally. Well all headsets that were actually at least valuable in some way. Plenty of garbage headsets from HTC other than the Vive.

>>405030476
Sir, please do the needful and fuck off, my bastard.

>>405030476
>Plenty of garbage headsets from HTC other than the Vive.
I've still no idea why Vive Cosmos exists. Even the Vive Pro is a better option at around the same price point.

>>405030609
"we want the WMR audience" except botching it even harder because they had less software dev talent than Microsoft's VR team.

>>405030782
When you make controllers with both worse tracking and battery life than any of Oculus' offerings by a large margin....

>>405030814
At least they did fix the tracking (mostly) eventually. But it was too late. Maybe it's finally time to redeem themselves given Brad's piqued interest in the new headset they're teasing.

>>405030412
It's shit. Come home white man, get a DAS

Running Usui Pass and Mt Akina in Assetto Corsa tonight at 8PM EDT.
Car list is pic related, let me know if there's anything else you want to run.
Mods and DLC are below and the server is up now if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/#F!IgMnDK7Y!16gzEjZRZsea9QE3NDQg6Q
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/BBwxhS6D#4jJIfs6omnJUaJfsnqPqGQ

>>405032346
You would think HTC would want to make an official version just to capitalize on a design they already built.

>>405023349
With how good the avatar documentation is and how easy it is to upload an avatar. Unironically if bonelabs had multiplayer from the start it would actually stand a chance.

>>405020756
Nigger is what kids run around and scream for shock value in pubs nowdays lmao, but vrg also spams sus and other kid shit so not suprised.

Initial test works. Eye and face tracking soon.

>>405035050
Green screen world?

>>405034460
If BoneLabs had multiplayer from the get go (even if it lacked co-op campaign) and a better sandbox, I'd have given it a less shit for all its other problems/flaws.

More incentive to make fun maps for a multiplayer mode than just a single player experience.

>>404997961 (OP)
I have these and made the posts in the last thread, feel free to ask stuff if you are curious on this.

I use this to watch anime in public, no regrets.

https://streamable.com/bifatg
god dam I love wired so much! would you let him know on my behalf?

>>405038538
kill yourself

>>405038706
Very mean! This community does not condone harassment!

why is everyone here mentally ill
am I mentally ill too?
who is responsible for this?

>>405038971
The jews

>>405038971
Where do you think you are?

>>405039160
why did they do it?
didn't we save them during WW2?

>>405018749
>https://vrch.at/j7dn9k8f
kys smug pedo

>>405039947
What it has to do with dancing though?

>>405039236
>didn't we save them during WW2?
From what lol?

>>405041121
Like from hitler and the holocaust?

>>405041207
sounds like a band name

>>405038971

Vrg has a high level of mental illness. Thankfully you guys were tricked into self containment by elitism though.

>>405041272
based

>>405041121
A major world power breaking away from the international banking system haha

How much VRAM should I be targeting for a new GPU if I want to max resolution on the latest headsets ? I don't trust 8GB to be enough.

>>405046390
if you buy a new gpu it should at least have 12gb of vram

>>405046452
Thanks so I guess anything lower than a 3080Ti for current gen is out of the question. AMD has higher VRAM cards but I heard maybe 1-2 year ago that it sucks for VR, is it still the case ?

>>405046592
Don't get AMD cards, they have too many issues, especially for VR.
A good and solid bet right now if you're on a tight budget is the 3060 12GB. Quite a bit of VRAM to work with and it's a decent card.
But if you can get something with 16GB or more that's better

>>405046390
I'm using my index at 300% resolution per eye (it looks a hell of a lot better than 100%) and it uses on average around 16GB of VRAM.

>>405046872
>>405047196
Thanks for the answers, I'll keep the 16GB number in mind and wait for the rest of the announcements.

After like the ten minutes of googling I did I'm guessing the files for the VTOL A-10 mod is just thanos snapped then.
I'm guessing these retards are willfully ignoring that you can just download and install the old versions of both the modloader and the game?

>>405048631
Wait why, what happened to it

>>405048747
The VTOL VR update that added the helicopter seemed to mess something up with the mod (things only being in one eye?) so the mod was removed.
And from what I can find, it was completely removed, like I've been trying to find the files in a torrent or literally anything so that I can try to set it up on an old version of the game but it just doesn't exist.

>>405023696
le meta cuck shill has arrived

>>405024753
>face tracking and eye tracking to work through Link
literally nobody cares outside of Vrtrannies. maybe for foveated rendering but graphics is the last problem of the 5 vr games around

>>405021768
I was tired, ok?

>>405051491
if eye tracking and face tracking becomes mainstream there's a lot you can do with it, game-wise.
taking VTOL VR as an example, you could integrate eye tracking into that
adding eye/face tracking to your avatars in VRC is really cool and actually adds a lot, but let's not forget that this actually has pretty neat implications for actual games too.
besides, eye tracking makes foveated rendering possible which means better performance overall once the GPU and driver/shader wizards get off their asses and make it work well.

>>405035050
lmao gabibbo chad

>>405051620
>if eye tracking and face tracking becomes mainstream there's a lot you can do with it, game-wise.
yeah in like a decade then just look at the index and tell me how many games implemented it in creattive gampeplay ideas? and it's been out for 3 years already

>>405051995
and I'm talking about the finger tracking obviously

>>405023696
No they didn't. The only dislike for CV1 was the lack of controllers that were released shortly after

>>405038971
I am extremely sane. I worry about why most everyone else are sorta irrational.

>>405052592
If you really don't remember the "CV1 can't do room scale" bullshit and other kinds of copes that kept being spread around even ages after Touch came out, I don't know what to tell you.

Even this fucking literal reddit post was being spread around here unironically.

Please don't match EUs with SEAs this year for secret santa... last year was so difficult because of it. SEA folk hang out more with NA West than they do EU...

>>405053635
Maybe I'm misremembering but the CV1 and Vive were always coming out equal when pitted against each other with half preferring one over the other from what I remember. I still stand by CV1 being king of that generation myself.

>>405053808
In more reasonable discussions with people who actually used both of them, sure. The elitism was real, and anyway, Facebook deserves the hate, so why not, right?
It got so bad that images like these were created in response.

>>405054193
What this fuck is this autistic image, I dont remember seeing this lmao

vr is stagnating gimmicky crap

>>405058457
true, get a quest pro, before they go defunct

>>405003237
fren

whats better; gestures or emoting through menu buttons?

>>405061623
gestures because menus take too long to become instinctive

>>405061623
gestures that fit with the displayed expression/emotion and menu buttons for less used or specific expressions

>>405061623
Face tracking.

>>405061623
gestures because menus are too finicky. they also keep closing themselves after the latest update so i have to navigate through my action menu again if i leave it closed for a bit
i do have too many expressions to fit on my gestures so SOME of them are in my menu.

>>405061889
>>405061989
>>405062162
how many emotes do you use with gestures, then? obviously cant put them on fist or open, but when i used to use cge i barely had any combinations. i want to see how many i should tuck away in menus, since i have about 30+
>>405062017
i wish

>>405062707
30? jfc
Since fist is a no-go, that leaves about 14 gestures on my hands. i do put stuff on open hand, but i use index controllers so i just bound the gesture toggle to one of the bottom buttons so i'm not always doing them every time i do an open hand.
the rest i put in my menu, i have about 8 in my menu. the ones that get put in the menu are the ones i use more rarely. it's cumbersome but it's either that, or setting up specific combinations for both hands, or making gesture "sets" to swap between instead. they're all viable options

Get spooked today in EU Halloween PyPy today at 17:00 UTC, in a bit less than 2h.

It will be as usual but with more spooky songs, bring all your halloween avatars and let's dance with them! as usual I'll post a link to the world a few minutes before, see you dancing

also pypy vids:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqVTVLsIotSn_IwnjofDlZax8Ci_Jn8Un

>>405062906
tranny meet-up

>>405061623
Gestures

>>405062879
i can bring it down from 30, i just have to re-learn how to do gestures in conversation.
>fist is no-go
knuckles users should avoid open and fist, right?
>14
this sounds like a good amount. i might just do that. thanks!

>>405064493
Fist can be used as long as the gesture only triggers if the gesture weight is above 0. Open hand is also safe to use. These 2 gestures are the easiest to trigger by accident so I do recommend hotkeying one of your bottom buttons to gesture toggling/locking. It shouldn't happen often once you get used to it though.

>>405046592
>>405046872
AMD cards will run VRChat just fine over steam vr. The 3060 has way more VRAM than the price would suggest but it's also slower, so keep that in mind.

>>405065707
Every friend I know with an AMD card has had mysterious driver issues, worse-looking shaders in some regards, crashes, and other bugs. I don't recommend jumping on the AMD train anymore.
Remember that certain AMD cards could not even render the most-used toon shader of 2017-2018, rendering most anime avatars literally invisible

>>405065870
I have used an RX 6800 myself and I don't recall ever having notable driver issues. I did hear that the drivers were generally really awful until 2019 though.

>Team Beef ports (Half Life, Doom 3, Jedi Knight, etc) are moving to OpenXR and coming to Pico 4 to join existing Quest 2 support.

>>405067293
sooooo what does this mean if anything at all

>>405067293
what about the few good games we havethat o*ulus turned into exclusives

>>405035948
What else do you use it for? Is it clear enough to easily read text with?

>>405008793
Is that a sos thing?

>>405062906
starting now:
https://vrch.at/jy9hvs0u
or join uzugu

what is pypy

>>405073368
Grooming.

>>405073425
>Grooming.
You're probably thinking of Mahjong, but that's a different thing.

>>405073368
it's the thing where they put on dance videos and dance along

>>405035948
do they have any ways to naturally control them or is just a screen?

>>405072484
It will be people from each timezone running it.

>>405073653
i don’t enough play space to dance

>>405074675
ok

They're fucking multiplying, we need to put a stop to this before it's too late

>>405074280
Is that a yes or a no?

>>405078005
instead of fishing for info you can always attend the event and find out
oh wait

>>405078118
Seeing that you are so coy about it, I guess it is a yuki event.
Thanks for answering.

>>405078468
i actually don't know who's running it myself
just saying you can just attend and find out
but i know that's not really an option for you probably so have fun

>>405078558
>but i know
sure you do

>>405078005
>>405078468
That's not me you're replying to. I'd say that no, it's not a sos thing unless you're in the sea timezone. If you're EU I believe it's Shammy doing the hosting and if you're NA it's Rhyperior and Yuru.

>>405078750
thank you

>>405077840
Why contain it?

>>405067293
but what will this mean? is this good or bad for PCVR users?

>>405003453
>Which means the screen is incredibly blurry and has terrible god rays.
wrong

>>405061623
Index touchpad

>>405077840
these people are bald men in their 30s.
let that sink in.

>>405081642
Technology is really amazing, isn't it?

>>405081642
I am not bald

>>405061623
Both.
Gestures for the more common expressions you want to make (I have around 12-14 active, fist and open are always empty).
Then the less used expressions go on menu toggles.

>>405081642
I prefer bald dudes.
t. femanon

>>405081642
Why do you always accuse people of being bald, anon? Are you projecting?

>>405081642
the flesh is weak

>>405077840
Arr rook the same

>>405081642
side-by-side photos would be so cute!

>>405081642
and it's fine

I can't believe anyone on ANONYMOUS imageboard would be fixated so much how someone looks IRL.

pic is of a bunch of stuff in my ar glasses

>>405068051
yes, I sometimes use them to browse the web with the mirror display feature, better than looking down at your phone. And I once used it on my laptop when i wanted to make sure the one sitting next to me could not see anything sensitive. Had a privacy screen protector thing before, but they are not as good.
But I really only bought it to watch anime and avoid attention.

>>405073873
There is a mirror screen mode which just mirrors your devices screen on the display in the glasses, that screen moves with you, so not like in VR.

However Nreal has made a fantastic AR app, that feels like the steamvr or oculus enviroment. They got a browser, a photo pp (that also plays video) and a bunch of other meme apps like a virtual pet which I am starting to grow on.
The cool part of that enviroment is that it stays locked in its position, even if you turn your head around. You can launch multiple apps and place them wherever you want.
You may wonder how? well they turn your smartphone into the pointer/controller for it. You can swipe to scroll, press to click, longpress, do some diagonal movements for something i dunno. Should the pointer not match what you see in the glasses, just long press the home button and it resets to forward.
If you like what you see in pic related, just make sure you have one of the few phones with a usb-c display output, listed on nreal's website. Most samsung and oneplus phones can utilize this ar space, otherwise you can still just mirror your phone screen.

Alright motherfuckers it is that time of the week again! Halloween is less then a week away and it is time to batten down the hatches. While a costume may seem like a silly meme for the effort, it's good to celebrate these little moments through the year to help motivate yourself and others to push on. Finish up that spooky avatar, if you need help ask in shop or in the thread! Side note, new Koikatsu exporter works on blender 3.2 https://github.com/FlailingFog/KK-Blender-Porter-Pack/releases/tag/V6.1.1
It needs the development version of CAT's though.
https://github.com/absolute-quantum/cats-blender-plugin/tree/development

ChilloutVR will be on it's usual run Friday 7pm PST 10pm EST. Saturday will be a loose run of it depending on which fomo tugs. Phasmo will happen at some point during the weekend so ask up if you want in on that too.

Dm *or reply* to the shop man if you have an invested interest in shrimp for some reason.

>>405084693
I tried getting both eyes in one shot, but its pretty hard to focus this and as you move further away for the required focal length the image also gets blurry. This is around 20 cm away. It is a stereo experience.

do we have a persistent clubhouse where we can join at any time?

>>405085914
A /vrg/ non-event world that's just for us to hang out in whenever? That might be fun. Something like Harbl Hotel...

>>405082786
LONDON
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D
O
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>>405082786
mommy?!

>>405085914
nope!

>>405084693
Can you still see what's around you, or do the floating displays block everything out?
How well did they work with a laptop?

>>405085914
not how it works newhombre

>>405085914
waaaay back in the day we had links in the op to certain instances we could join. Doesnt work anymore however

wtf choobie is actually a girl

Hey anon! If you are from EU and not registered to Secret Santa pls consider it. I am not linked in any way to the organization, but I want a good excuse to give a Xmas gift to a good friend but most of them are not registered and you might be one of them
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScLkIQzQJVYijG50R-iH2Gx2BkSiH-vgB45BPeQk8VoI2vJDA/viewform

>>405088483
yes, against darker areas, like shadows during daylight or even rainy days the display would be nearly opaque at max brightness. You are wearing snglasses after all which make things darker.

If you look against bright sun bouncing off walls you will have more trouble reading the screen, for that nreal has a plastic cover which blocks all light and will make the display visible anywhere. and since it is oled, everything black is like there is nothing at all and therefore see through.

On Laptop it just mirrors the screen, you can extend it too to make it a second one, it behaves like a second screen. However the screen will move with you, so no AR magic there.

>>405089207
No one ever hung out in the instances those were attached to anyways. I remember trying to join off those links when I was a newfag and being confused when there was no one there.

Is there any way to perform math on animator parameters? eg, create a new parameter that's equal to oldparameter1 + oldparameter2.

I guess I could send the parameters out with osc, do the processing externally, then send it back, but that's a real nigger rig hacky solution and probably wouldn't update fast enough for what I'd like to do. Is there any built-in way to do this?

>>405091063
Nice that the screen works that well.
Sucks about it just mirroring the screen on a laptop though. Doesn't look like my phone is supported either. They're still pretty neat though, but I don't get out enough to justify dropping the money on them even if they would work for me.

Thanks for turning up to the VR and IRL pypy meet guys!

>>405074280
Aren’t sos events always like that? Ran by hosts for each timezones

>>405093465
n-word used

>>405097618
didn't ask nigger.

>>405093927
>>405073271
Thanks for coming everyone, very nice vibes today, and I'm loving that meme song indeed

>>405097767
n-word used again, you didn't need to reply

>>405098295
And the actual group photo

>>405098481
still didn't ask, you didn't need to reply

>>405097618
>>405098481
the person who replied to you was a different anon. As the original anon you mentioned to, I'll officially say: fuck off nigger

>>405098670
n-word used

niggers

>>405081642
I'm only balding... I'm not bald yet...

>>405093465
start learning parameter drivers and get used to additional net sync layers purely to make sure your animator is getting the same sums locally and over the network

>>405085914
Naw we hop around far too much. You need to ask in the thread at the time you want to join us and someone will help you get in. Or just ask for someone to namedrop and you can join them some time if they're online

>>405090084
I agree and keep forgetting to shill it at the meets! I'll try and remember to hound people this weekend

done just a bit of testing so far and it's been a great experience so far. the displays are bright and vibrant, tracking was able to handle expert+ beat saber expertly. without the blockers it is still an enjoyable experience and i can see the usefulness in a group setting. no weight on your face, just your forehead, which i could see myself being in longer than my index. passthrough has a bit of a glitch look to it but i actually like it

>>405098598
Love you guys~

>>405100234
It's just a scam targetting businesses.

>>405100234
>which i could see myself being in longer than my index
shame about the battery

>>405101093
already have a power bank setup. the shitty part is that the software stops you from charging controllers while using them, the hand-tracking is vastly improved so there's a fallback for some situations

>>405101354
How long is the battery on the controller?

>>405100234
Have you tried a Vive before, and can you compare the displays if so? It couldn't be more bright than that headset, and I'm sure the blacks aren't as good either, but just how close are we to the OLED experience again?

NA anime tonight at 10 pm EST in Chillout

Spy x Family s2 ep 4
Chainsaw Man ep 3
DIY ep 4
Aria ep 8

will post when instance is up. We will continue on Sunday

>>405100234
Can you get the controllers to reliably track with ir light somehow? I think it would be really cool to have no light blockers and get air circulated while it still is dark.
I tried it with basestation as someone in a discord suggested, but it does not seem to be enough.

>>405101093
i used my controllers for 2 hours today and i am down to 80% each, i will live, still better than vive wands.

>>405101354
same, just put one in a pocket and you get as much charge out of it as your controllers

>>405104148
>>405104645
8 hours seems to be accurate, now if only you could pair 4 controllers at once without their shitty mobile app pair/unpair thing, they would be able to sell an additional pair to tryhards

>>405104538
>DIY ep 4
>Aria ep 8
these are too comfy, ill fall asleep

>>405100234
>not a shill btw

>>405104529
it's been a while since i've used a vive, other current headset i have is an index. things look sharper overall, about the same amount of sde but i'll do more indepth testing between the two later. it seems like the local dimming has to be turned on by developers so when i was in the home menu the black were good but when i went into vrc they were washed out a little
>>405104645
others have tried using ir in the dark and showed it didn't work
>>405106938
i wish i got some zucc buccs out of it

>>405109245
>others have tried using ir in the dark and showed it didn't work

I took a 5 watt ir floodlight, bounced it off a sheet of paper and i got tracking working, just saying it can be done.

>>405077840
I really don't care who's controlling the avatar. Cunny is cunny

As it turns out, finding the height of a user in VRC is not easy. Getting it from data like HMD distance from the floor doesnt work because the VRC devs decided that origin of the playspace meant only in xz and not y. Aside from lying about your height, like you can in bonerworks, ive decided to measure it using the controllers. but that comes with its own issues, for one the avatar scale value(how big the world is) defers from avatar to avatar. Udon wont give you the value anywhere, but some autist wrote some code to figure that out. that uses some mirror magic code to find the player scale. Next is to measure the height. There is no datum to work off of but I found that since the controller are symmetrical and mirrored. so long as you hold them together and in the same relative orientation, you can get a datum that is the edge of the controller. with that you can find the floor and the distance to the top of your head. CCEH (Constantly calculated eye height) is the HMD height to the real floor. which should be within 10% of your measured height. CArmSpan is the distance between the controllers. for humans armspan is close to height but the controllers all sit differently in the hand making it only within 20% of the measured height. All of those are multiplied by the 1/scale to find the real heights/ distances. With those 3 values, it should be difficult to lie about your height, but im sure there are ways around this. or just refusing to do it all together.
>why?
because there are certain gamemodes that would only work if each user was their real scale. e.g. redirected walking races. I think its something to pay attention to when Deving for any VR game. And its going to be fun to see everyones height when i get this syncing.

tldr:
you cant hide your real height.
Real Height Revealer soon

>>405112007
>Real Height Revealer soon
Fuck

>>405112007
>put playspace floor few meters below actual floor
your method is useless

>>405112007
How would this exactly transfer for redirected walking races.
People who are tall are already naturally at an advantage right?

And does this system have an Update() loop? It's ok that it does as long as it can be enabled and disabled locally as needed. Does the system work with dynamic toggling?

>>405112007
>making a manlet revealer
>when you are 172cm yourself

>>405112794
How would you touch playspace floor with your controller when it's few meters below the actual floor, genius?

>>405113296
>he doesn't know

>>405112535
yep
>>405112794
woops, now your armspan is too short when comparing it to your height, calibration failed try again.
>>405112809
>People who are tall are already naturally at an advantage right?
if you think that running an extra 50 meters in a 200 meter race is fair than we have very different definitions of fair. Im after the actual physical performance of a human, not some made up stuff about lanklets being naturally faster.
>And does this system have an Update() loop?
I should be able to detect avatar an avatar change using an update loop, that will bring the user back to re-calibrate. the scaling requires the mirror to be in view. but that can be turned off once done calibrating.
>>405112857
could be worse.

>>405112007
based

>>405112007
Everyone already knows I'm a manlet because I'm the smallest in the Pavlov lobbies...

>>405112007
>because there are certain gamemodes that would only work if each user was their real scale. e.g. redirected walking races.
So if someone is taller irl they should get an advantage in vr?

>biggest person in pavlov lobby
>"girly" voice

>>405032470
Assetto Corsa starting now, server details are in the previous post if you're interested.

>>405114990
yes

simracing is fucking gay
good vr arcady racing when?

>>405112007
Oh and with this same datum method, I can have the user find their 3 measurements. approximating it with either an ellipse or slot. with that i could get a rough idea of weight.
Also Post your VR body.
https://bodyvisualizer.com/male.html

>>405115063
>Tfw 6'6
>Tfw natural speaking voice is high enough I sometimes get mistaken for a deeper voiced girl over audio only chat
>Tfw can also do an extremely deep, baritone voice too
The audible confusion I get now and again from the people who hear the first voice before the second one brings me far more amusement than it should

>>405116515
wow my body is so cool

Tomorrow, midnight EST, the living dead rise again.
Be ready...
Since we finished the Minecraft maps I'm looking for good Zombie maps, I found a few that seemed nice but feel free to recommend some you'd like to see in the future.

>>405112007
winged a little, gained about 20 pounds back in june-august for the first in 15ish years

>>405112007
So we're gonna use this for the next sports festival? poggers

>>405115217
>>405032470
did I already miss it? Only been an hour since it started, it looks like.

https://vrch.at/h3ks0gwc
midweek mahjong

>tilegun
Ok but what if i want to actually play mahjong?

>>405121417
Everyone else had to leave early tonight so I hopped off. I can hop back on if you want to run though.

>>405121010
plan too. the refs did an amazing job last year. this year(if it happens this year) we'll try to keep them sane.

>>405121583
Thanks for the offer, my bad for being late. I'll show up next time on time (hopefully)

>>405121619
Nice. And yeah the refs went beyond and above the call of duty last year. Not a stretch to say the event wouldn't have moved at all without them helping bridge the gap of the systems.

>>405121727
No problem, we usually run longer, just got cut a bit short tonight.

>>405121417
I don't stick around if it's only 1 other person after 30 min

>>405116515
>people are going to find out I'm fat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0I2Ec4JsrE
The hands. You can spread ehm
Holy shit

>>405104538
instance is going up, join on pgpweasel or hiina

>>405126826
never going to work for Quest to PC

>>405127134
>implying
Says nervous Ron non-believer for the 11th time

>>405128252
has nothing to do with VRC devs. Oculus doesn't send hand tracking data to the PC app

Supplementary Wednesday Pypy!
https://vrch.at/z9gmbkmg
https://vrch.at/z9gmbkmg

>>405128415
Zucc will fix it!

>>405121421
https://vrch.at/5wpjxr2s

mahjong moving to here

>>405118368
just switch it to female body type rh

>>405131405
???
what did he mean by this?

>>405131405
>0 People
Ah yes, finally Mahjong with all of my friends.

>>405126826
leap motion integration never ever
been on the canny for years
has existed since before VR

Boysmell is here
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11356765/Smell-O-Vision-Device-lets-people-smell-virtual-reality.html

>>405133893
Whose boysmell will you sample first?

>>405133006
nta, tilegun is just not good for playing mahjong. tourists who dont play mahjong turn it into a meetup.

>>405126826
Tupp tupp no...

>>405135586
You can only have 3 tables up in close proximity, so it probably lends itself to easily reaching "overflow" and then people stop playing?

>>405135849
questies BTFO

>>405136164
>do not currently
THERE IS A CHANCE in the future

>>405136210
2 more weeks, zuccbros. Trust the plan!

>>405136660
Surely an enterprising programmer will make one that is compatible with SteamVR so we can all have the best VR fellatio since Zucc failed us.

In theory it's just a camera aimed at the mouth.

>>405135867
the sound dropoff is horrible between even 2 tables. it's genuinely just a different atmosphere. the prefab building just lends itself to being a hangout map given the size and layout, on top of it being a weekday where there's no real main anchor meetup going on. it's hard to describe, they see it as the only real meetup that isn't pypy, anime, or workout and hop on. at least the parlor is repulsive enough that vrg normies won't dare touch it with a 50foot pole, and that's a good thing.

>>405136660
>>405135849
everyone out here really dragging their arse at implementing face and eye tracking. DO they not send out dev kits ?

Buy Quest Pro, you bitch bastard.
Please...

The stocks are dropping, my bastard.

imagine a world where zuckerberg never made a facebook account a requirement
where instead of going all in on standalone they went all in on high quality PC VR headsets as well as going in early on full body tracking
Imagine if instead of putting all that money they spent getting quests out and putting dogshit standalone headset games and applications in their walled garden.
They put all that money into high quality AAA PC VR headset games and multiplayer gaming experiences.
Envision a world where VR is seen as an aspirational product with incredible unmatched and un-substitutable experiences.

>>405139276
i posted with the wrong image
just imagine the left is the PC VR transcendent timeline and the right is the Meta standalone VR current timeline or something

imagine a world where palmar and iribe didn't sell their souls to the devil

>>405129793
Supplementary pypy concludes, until next time!

>>405140430
I finally finished upgrading my avatar. I should be there tomorrow

b-boyslop...

>>405141367

>>405144385
Lovers...

>>405141367
Post examples of who is boyslop!

>>405144385
I wish I had robotranny busy to fuck daily

>>405046872
Was the 3060 one of those cards that had the power spike problems which caused PSU shut downs? I've been in the market to upgrade off of my 1070.

I assume nvenc 2.0 off the 3060 helps with virtual desktop also over my current card.

>>405144385
Why does R have a british fetish

>>405151169
i don't blame him. twink brits hit WAY too different with their seductive gay briish lisps

Pavlov zombies for halloween?

>>405152903 yes see >>405119172

>>405148283
Me too

>>405151169

>>405153445

Has After the Fall fixed their shit yet? Is there still a population? Game's on a 50% sale and I refunded it before due to numerous bug that bordered on game breaking, such as weapons vanishing into the fucking abyss and losing them forever at the end of maps for no reason. But I liked the gameplay decently enough, so I might give it another shot.

>>405153134
Nah that's far too late

>>405153960
Oh if you're in EU then you could probably get your own session going, I think there's a lot of EU pavlov players here so there would probably be interest!

>>405148932
I think those were the 3080 that had cheaper caps that were used. Still I think it's better to at least wait for the rest of the 40 series announcements and AMD's lineup.

>>405153960
If you're EU then contact gem and he'll host one for you. Just give him a maplist and a time and he'll usually not fuck it up

>>405081642
I drank il with of those and I can confirm, are all bald, fat and ugly. Would do it again.

Never played VRC, wanted to but wanted to use one of those mods that lets you search avatars to use. Now that mods are fucked how can i do this?
Where can i go to steal paywalled avatars?

>>405154272
lol, lmao

>>405153756
found it unreliable to go for public groups but enough in here have the game that you can host rounds.
Personally I haven't encountered bugs

>>405154197
@gem please can you set up a pavlov zombies session?

>>405154272
We aren't retards and just make our own stuff here

>>405154621
You forgot the time and the maplist

>>405154769
EU time and a Zombie map :D

>>405155005
Help me out here; which zombie maps (workshop IDs please), what time, what day

>>405155137
Hmm is there anything already happening tomorrow at around 6pm UTC?

>>405154370
Out of curiosity what did you find funny about this

>>405156406
Can you put it at 9pm UTC tomorrow instead?

>>405156893
That's so late...

>>405156406
Isn't 6pm UTC VTol?

>>405154707
Nah, people here are pretty retarded

>>405158642
We're retarded and we make our own stuff

>>405158807
>make our own stuff
Aka: move the hue slider on the hair shader

>>405158960
there's plenty of folks here that 3D model their own stuff from scratch
most others kitbash stuff. some people use default booths.
but fine anon, let's see your avatar

>>405157438
I thought that was wednesdays

>>404997961 (OP)
Thank you for putting it in the OP, anon!
For the threadchads among us, here's what you'll need to get in for the dance hours.
Better not share it, you don't want to know what happens if you do.

>>405159025
changed to friday at some point

>>405160012
At what time?

>>405154401
>found it unreliable to go for public groups
So it sounds like the population is pretty shit then. That sucks, but unsurprising.

>>405160787
6pm if I recall correctly, but I think there is very little overlap of people typically in pavlov and in vtol

>>405159116
Also to add, we've fixed some issues some people had with not being able to load in the stream. Hopefully you'll have less issues from now on. Catch you there.

>>405046390
> I don't trust 8GB to be enough.
24GB for stable diffusion 1024x1024
and another 8GB for VR
so u can make pictures while in vr now, and future proof yourself so you want have to play at 10fps once AI world generation has been implemented in unity

>>405159116
Thanks! I'll reserve posting the code for the halloween costume after the halloween dance prevent confusion. This is really a nice and simple system to mostly allow only thread chads. Good job on thinking it up

Sadly can't come to the dance due to timing issues but I hope you guys have a nice time~

stop streaming the thread acti you unlovable retard

>>405135849
>>405126826
wtf? then what have i been doing this whole time in ALVR and VRDT? are you telling me when i put down my controlers and use my hands as controlers OR MY FUCKING FINGERS IN NEOS VR AS IS, that it is a fucking demon transmitting the data from my quest to SteamVR or something?

people who say quest hands dont work in steam VR are either lying for personal gain or are so far up their own ass they wont even spend 5 minutes googling to find out theyre wrong

>>405133893
>>405134319
can this record smells and send them to another device to emit a simulation of them?

>>405165351
It emulates Index knuckles but it doesn't support full tracking of hands.

>>405165998
No it actually fully tracks the hands mate
https://twitter.com/kurotori4423/status/1585464982816190465

>>405139276
>>405139435
thats basically what happened. you are just being tricked by the memes
>fuckerberg invested $10b in the metaverse only to get fb horizons
but the face is facebook made headsets like
>full dome HDR
>high speed tracking
>auto-ipd
the only thing youre upset about is that they didnt put them in your AUD $2500 prosumer toy

>>405140430
i hope both of you had good sex and didnt just leave after i still dont understand why you insist on dancing to those gay workout vids

>>405166824
Marshall unironically is a great entertainer and coach, also he is the straighest men on earth

>>405165998
OH REALLY?!
then IT WAS a demon that let me use my quest native hands in NEOS VR? coz i definately wasnt limited to shitty knuckles emulation.

how fucking retarded can a person be

obviously i have to SHOW you the setting for you to understand but i doubt even showing you will make your single digit IQ brain understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXh-_6Xbb_o

>>405167605
forgot pic. video isnt quest native fingers. this is the setting in ALVR 15.
https://github.com/alvr-org/ALVR/releases/tag/v18.2.2

also
https://github.com/korejan/ALVR/wiki/ALXR-Client

>>405165351
>>405166309
These are native quest hand tracking, not the gimped PC version people have been using until now. Why are you so angry?

>>405166824
Because its fun to do with your mates and it's a decent light workout. As for Marshall, he legit makes good video with fun, interesting dances that are easy to follow. He also makes silly storylines sometimes to help you remember the dances

>>405168452
i knew it. even when i show you native hand tracking working on PC you still dont get it

i will draw a picture for your mentally addled brain. if you still don't get it, that's on YOU

https://valvesoftware.github.io/steamvr_unity_plugin/articles/Skeleton-Input.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyEZFG7WMb4

>>405169140
fix'd

>>405169140
ALVR. Scuffed PC solution. Not native Quest solution. The PC can make use of the cameras on the headsets and people can make their own hand tracking from that but they can't use the native Quest hand tracking.
Now please calm down

>>405169604
holy shit you are so wrong you cant even understand the scale you are wrong

1 - quest does not allow camera access to any app. it only gives APIs like hand model and position and click events
2 - since 1 being the case, when you pass fingers to the PC, they will be EXACTLY the same as on native quest,
3 - the camera access is a function of the HTC vive ONLY, and has nothing to do with the quest. to make it work you need to install the HTC STK, for which you need to sign up for on their website.

go put your quest on right now and boot up vr desktop. your hands in neos will be the exact same as that.

again, I HAVE USED THIS AND I DIDNT HAVE TO DEVELOP SHIT YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID RETARD
I EVEN PROVIDED YOU THE FILES SO YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF
>>405168449

>I EVEN PROVIDED YOU THE FILES SO YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF
>>405167836

He's so angry lol

Lol stay mad

>>405169987
She*

>>405170041
>>405169987
enjoy signing up to facebook dick tracking and enjoying the technology i enjoyed 2 years ago already in exchange for your soul in 2025

im just trying to explain to people might have to use sign language in vr that in fact IT IS possible and ALSO very very easy (if you ignore the fact you need to obtain developer access to a quest somehow, such as having bought one when it was still the oculus quest)

any worlds up? namedrop?

>>405170338
Currently dead hours, sadly

>>405169853
not that anon, but if I understand correctly what you are saying is that alvr uses the native hand tracking in the android/native app and transmit it to steamvr as skeleton input?
That's really cool if that's the case, however I suppose it's not the case for AirLink or VirtualDesktop?

Didn't read any of those posts, but on the topic of ALXR, someone hacked it to provide eye tracking from Quest Pro to PC VRC. The full face and eye tracking should be coming soon it seems.

is there a "standard" list of vrc avatar contact tags?

>>405171348
ive messaged the VDT developer about this several times since 2019 and he says its impossible and once he said even that if u want it so much you should develop it yourself.

i think he just wants to collect his passive income and fiddle with netcode. yesterdays update even started a installer but still gave the quest the message "please wait for updates"
if i did i wouldve been waiting forever because you had to go up to the pc and click the mouse to use it.

the ironic thing is he has personally been zucced several times already so its like hes trying to be zuckerberg to his customers

>>405171409
"pro" just means you have to develop any functionality yourself

all marketeers need to be executed

>>405172209
None yet that I know of.
Fire
Attack
Damage
Water
Bullet
Hit
And things like these. Common words have been getting used

>>405170338
Sorry was already about to sleep earlier. Try again tomorrow at this same time you posted and I’ll be up anon

>>405067383
maybe you can play those ports on PC?

>>405154272
i too wana know where else to get free shit, incognito.uno only has old crap

>>405175489
capitalised or not or both?

>>405171409
oh boy with the slow as shit update rate of OSC I can't wait!

>>405169853
Do you think that screaming at people and calling them retards is going to convince them to give facebook a try?

>>405169853
>the camera access is a function of the HTC vive ONLY, and has nothing to do with the quest. to make it work you need to install the HTC STK, for which you need to sign up for on their website.
actually it works with the index too on neos, no need to install any funky stk either

>>404890298 (Cross-thread)
Reminder there will be a Ragnarock lobby tonight at 8 pm EST (in 7.5 hours) no need to download the custom songs pack this time

>>405158807
Definitely don’t see a lot of making avatars going on here
Just schizo posting about height revealers

>>405137947
you unironically should if you like what you see, cause with meta crashing as hard as it does this may be your only chance.

omfg fuck L
dont leave me out of ur secret discord group
i cant trust u now

>>405188068
Unfortunately posting about avatar work is 'avatarfagging' and gets reported by schizos.

EU anime tonight 7PM UTC+1. We're watching Chainsaw Man episode 3, Pui Pui Molcar Driving School episode 3, Gundam The Witch From Mercury episode 4 and Spy X Family season 2 episode 4

>>405190498
im watching episode 2 right now. should i save 3 for watching with you?
i dont talk in vr so maybe not... probably wont be fun

>>405189458
it's because of how your avatar looks

>>405191197
what's wrong with it?

>>405190818
why not?

>>405191281
becauseing of how an avatar is looking is a meme fren

>>405190818
Don't need to talk to watch

>>405191693
thank you fren. i didnt know it yet.

>>405190498
so youre starting in 45m?

>>405191909
Yes, with Chainsaw Man first

I miss Neos..

I wish I could get better performance in Neos...
and get my friends to actually play it with me

>>405190498
Starting soon https://vrch.at/6z9444f7 or join on Pengwyn

>>405194902
>>405195958
Well there be neos today?

>tfw Quest Pro controllers end up allowing FBT for Quest 2 users

>>405198020
do they actually? I didn't hear about that

>>405200482
yes but it wasnt reported by the "news"
i think it was just a future capability though. and you have to leave one sitting on a bench or something - like a kinect

>>405200482
No mention, just idle speculation. I want to see a specs teardown of the controller just to see what all its got besides a Snapdragon 662 processor.

>>405200576
I can picture it happening two ways. One is having the controllers stationary like a Kinect, which would go in line with R&D they showed off years ago at Oculus Connect about 'single sensor FBT", or possibly strapping them to your ankles and estimating the hip from there via a combo of the Quest 2/Pro's underside cameras and the controller's top-side, assuming no occlusion.

Hi, today's session of Shogi Thursday will be at 22:30 CET / 20:30 UTC as usual (~1h15 from now)
> What is Shôgi?
Shôgi is a strategy board game similar to chess, its main differences are:
- dropping rule: when you capture an opponent piece, you can use it as your own
- promotion: every piece can promote into a pre-defined form
- pieces: some of the pieces have different behaviour from normal chess, some are completely new
Those differences makes Shôgi a much more complex/deep game than chess, but also makes it a bit more freeform in my opinion
> I don't know how to play...
Then it's the perfect occasion to learn, feel free to join and you'll get an introduction to the game. If you want you can also read the rules here: https://www.shogi.cz/en/rules
Don't worry about chinese symbols being confusing, the world we'll be playing in have an option for chess symbols

Yes! Hand tracking!

>>405204308
Need kuronatsu finger tracking handjobs STAT

>>405196317
>>405194902
I'll host one next month I swear

>>405204308
What is the delay like?

>>405204308
okay now show it off with fbt and mouth tracking

>>405204308
lmao questies can finally match what index chads have been able to do since 2019

>>405207386
>Index finger ``tracking''
>not a liability

What's the best AR glasses then?

>>405207615
I've used hmd based finger tracking before and it fucking sucks. To be fair it was my DK2 with a leapmotion but the same issues still exist, if your hand occludes itself it won't track.

>>405205797
no worries, the vrg fun house can wait

>>405207286
you could handle mouth tracking from the pc side, since osc scripts can just run on another machine. if you were autistic enough you could do fbt that way too, but you'd need to put way more effort than its worth

>>405208401
if ur in vrc its worth the autisitc effort

No AR glasses recommendations, sad times.

>>405119172
Pavlov Zombie in circa 7 and a half.
Here are the maps we are gonna play, might do one, might do both, gonna depend on how the lobby is going.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2321763467

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1943589747

>>405203858
shogi up https://vrch.at/5hbn8baq

>>405207806
>>405209698
Most people here don't use AR stuff, so you'd be better off looking somewhere else for recommendations.
That one anon that was posting about AR glasses yesterday was talking about the Nreal Air though.

>>405207386
Except its... on quest version only

>>405211370
Cool thanks.

Was just asking since the OP made it seem like AR would be included

>>405207386
Knuckles can't even do finger-spreads. The only problem with Quest 2's hand tracking is you need to hold your hands out like a retard at all times, otherwise it doesn't know where your hands are.

>>405214748
Shame it'll never come to PC natively, since Airlink/VD doesn't support it, nor does Meta have any real incentive to add it.

Where the fuck is everyone

>>405214843
I just put it in the OP since I thought it was cool.

>>405159116
the evil hell number.... very ominous....

>>405207806
Magic leap 2 is pretty good from what I hear, although it's more marketed to (and priced for) enterprise users. A $3k+ price tag puts it out of range of most people here. Nreal's stuff is okay, and priced more reasonably, but their newest set of glasses, the Nreal Air, lacks features like 6dof tracking or even hand tracking, which kinda blows. Conversely, their older model, the Nreal Light, has better features but looks completely fucking retarded. If you don't mind looking like an absolute dweeb then you could pick those up. Pic related for real this time

“ Meta quietly confirmed that its next consumer-focused Quest headset (likely called Quest 3) will launch in 2023.

While it was a bit more than a year between the launch of the first Quest and Quest 2, it’s now been more than two years since the launch of Quest 2 and Meta has yet to formally announce the next consumer-focused Quest headset.

Just a day after the launch of the $1,500 Quest pro, Meta today confirmed plans to launch what it called the “next generation of our consumer Quest headset” in 2023; ostensibly Quest 3.”

https://www.roadtovr.com/meta-confirms-next-gen-quest-3-consumer-headset-2023/

>>405219036
And the Quest 3 won't be much of an upgrade over the Quest 2 other than the pancake lens, which won't be as thin as Quest Pro since the battery will be up front again. The tech hasn't improved/shrank fast enough for them to try and maintain the current price tag while also adding new features.

Deckard will solve all problems...

>>405219819
Except the price barrier.

>>405219871
I mean I'm okay with paying a few grand for something that will do everything right.

>>405220002
Can't wait until we get Knuckles v2 with just as many launch problems as the v1.

VR slice of life anime where the anime girls are guys in real life and are voiced by guys

>>405221745
tfw no yryr gf

>>405221745
So Japanese Monty Python?

>>405205797

>>405205797
i wanna go to minecraf...

>>405221745
Who would be the stars of the /vrg/ K-Drama?

>>405221745
That's what I wanted /vrg/ to be. Too bad it was nothing like it.

>>405224056
>>405221745
It can be if you stick to the right corners.
I was thinking of starting a weekly event to try and capture this better but haven't really thought it out to the point to finalize a lot of the details. Was thinking of doing it on sundays, mondays, or thursdays.

>>405223950
>tfw they cancel the episode where they learn the true meaning of friendship even though because of how my avatar looks

>>405224230
It will just get corrupted again.

>>405224564
Possible, but I'm also /vrg/'s strongest purefag.

>>405224056
i want that too. it's still like it sometimes i think! and we can still make it more like that too!

>>405224512
What a shame. Robotranny R went through a lot of character growth in that one.

>>405159116

>Virtual Desktop quality
>Godlike

>>405227261
7950xt confirmed absolute beast?

Ok so Drunk Pavlov should happen this week but theres a dance hours on friday night and I dont want to miss it or mess with it. So do you guys want to start 10est for some early Drunk pavlov or should we move it to next week??

>>405227591
can do next week fr
no alcohoil this week

>>405227591
move it to saturday

>>405227261
I want to like my new 6900xt but jesus fuck the random screen tearing in VR no matter the runtime used is fucking agonizingly rage inducing

Any fellow AMDcucks have advice? inb4 install dozens of progressively older drivers until it doesn't suck ass
Real fuckin' shame, since it smashes every pancake game in 1440p144fps

>>405215854
Jesus, finally someone in this thread with a brain!

>>405227591
Dancing Is gay and It's just gonna be the same setlist we've been dancing to for 3+ years but with "spooky scary skeletons" in the middle at some point
Do pavlov

>>405227261
>tfw med with 3060

>>405227591
if it happens this week I'm just gonna skip for dance hours desu

>>405228817
VR should never have any screen tearing, and I have never experienced it with my 6800XT, neither natively ( Vive Pro ) nor with Virtual Desktop.
What's your setup? Are you sure it's screen tearing and not some kind of stutter or motion smoothing artifact?

>>405227591
>There can only be one thing happening at any given time.
I fucking hate this logic.

>>405231079
it's true though, the amount of overlap between literally any given activity is overwhelmingly staggering. Like it's pretty much just a Venn diagram precisely on top of eachother.

>>405231289
>>405231079
>>405227591
since you fags all proclaim yourselves weebs, how about you actually do something during the afternoon or night of JST?
its pathetic that your 'dead hours' are the ones where the people in the country you supposedly love are most active!

>>405221745

>>405231606
Guards, this woman has lost her composure.

>>405231606

>>405231864
this but unironically

>>405225493
incorrect! I AM

>>405227591
Early.

>>405224230
please do it on sundays after sea exploration, always feel alone when it ends

>>405227591
do it before the dance

Does anyone know how to get a deep splinter out of a big toe? It's been stuck there and I can't get it with tweezers, but I want to go to NA Pypy.

>>405232965
needle and some disinfectant

>>405232965
razor blade or toenail clippers
dont cut to deep and disinfect it

>>405232965
I always soak in warm water for a while, then squeeze and tweeze

>>405179858
Both just to be sure

>>405233325
Wouldn't that end up pushing it deeper?>>405233338
How would I cut it? Parallel with the splinter? It's in at an angle, not straight in, does that help? It's been making it really hard to get a grip with the tweezers.

>>405231864
The days of the silent headpat meetups are gone and will never return

>>405188068
>>405190496
Just post avatars anyways
Getting scared of "schizos" is pussy behavior.

>>405231606
What kind of fucking argument is this? I like eating pizza but you don't see my logging in during Italy hours.

>>405204308
Kawaii. I want a handy from these tracking hands!

>>405231606
Wait, we're weebs?
I only wear an anime avatar because it's just the best looking types of avatars. I literally don't care about japan.

>>405233838
ideally you cut just enough skin to get blade/item under splinter and wrench it up(dont break it) allowing you a better grip on the foreign body

>>405207806
Quest Pro might actually be the best AR glasses right now. Overlaying a video feed of the real world into VR is the way to go imo

>>405234583
I'd have agreed with you if they didn't remove the depth sensor last-minute, and actually had decent colour resolution that doesn't feel like a VHS camera.

>>405232589
SEA exploration does have that CGDCT vibe going for it. Wish it can go longer but it ends at the stroke of midnight for sea people.

>>405228817
You could try turning off motion smoothing in SteamVR if you haven't done that already. I know it supposedly has problems on AMD cards, but I have no idea what they actually are.

>>405234531
So I'm meant to cut behind the splinter?
Here's a rough drawing. Is this red line correct? Imagine the splinter is drawn where the black part is where it's closer to the surface and the gray part is where its deeper in.

>>405234869
ya you got the jist

>>405232589
https://streamable.com/3lpgtf
:`)

>>405231606
>how about you actually do something during the afternoon or night of JST?
But we do? There's just a few of us here though.
Ask for a link on JST time and I'll give you a link.
Just don't be disappointed when you only see 3 other anons.

>>405227591
I'm praying for drama to kill NA pavlov again so there is one less game to compete with Friday drunk Assetto

>>405234423
is this loss?

>>405235564
No it’s an infection. Maybe it’ll finally kill him

finished my second halloween avatar
now time to finish my base please kill me

>>405235532
thank you for the miata pic br/o/

>>405236167
Congrats anon!
Did you make sure to optimize it to at least Good performance?

>>405233662
Took several tries, but this managed to do it, so I didn't have to resort to cutting the skin.

>>405234801
>CGDCT + 1 boy
there fixed

>>405187826
>>405188253 (Cross-thread)
Lobby up, join code is 018485
in mumble channel: voice.vrg.party

>>405236224
i try to go for poor but it wound up at 88k tris, sorry no dice. the other one is fine, though

>>405227261
What that retard actually means by that again?
The difference between high and ultra was less than 200 pixels in each dimension, between mid and high is more than 500.
Did he bump the res by 50 pixels more?

So tired of that retared canadian cocksucker..

>>405236910
Good enough I guess

>>405234423
>HEY
Hello

Resolutions per eye per mode per device, from the discord

>>405237347
for
>>405236957

>>405220871
>Launch problems
My I'm on my 4th set of controllers and they're all drifting.

>>405234720
https://twitter.com/3DVR3/status/1585604977069727745?s=20&t=3TotFd6GBHy8-ewST65Oew

https://twitter.com/3DVR3/status/1585595703593947136?s=20&t=3TotFd6GBHy8-ewST65Oew

Seem to still work well imo

>>405236884
827861
new code

>>405231046
the cuckulus quest 2, but it happens both in oculus runtime and SteamVR
It's definitely screen tearing like you'd see in an un-v-synced graphically undemanding pancake game, not the wobbly-smear ASW oculus tries to do.

>>405234845
I'll give that a try I guess, I've only tried turning it off in oculus debugger, ty anon

Do you think valve still remembers that steamvr uses big picture too, haha...

>>405239751
deckard will get a brand new ui

>>>/biz/52118752
/biz/ discussing vr can't understand how zucc is charging $1500 per headset

>>405240301
To be fair, I can't either.

Desktop mode looks decent actually. Will check how it works in VR now.

>>405240985
it wont be active in vr silly

>>405240367
>>405240301
It's easy. Zucc can't get back their investment selling Quest 2 at a loss because people just buy the headset to play free games like VRchat

>>405236832
So like GJ-Bu?

into the radius is on sale, is it guud?

>>405241120
Not only it's not active in VR, but it also breaks autostart of steamVR.
Crashed and freezed two times during 15 minutes of testing. I thinks that's enough.

>>405242126
Yes! Well sometimes it's 2 boys. But the 2nd boy rarely logs in these days.

Anybody want in on some phasmo?

>>405243642
sorry phasmo vr is too scary for me...

>>405243728
It's less scary the more people play. Like 4 people is pretty funny experience

>>405243642
Yeah, we can play. I still have 3 card drops in it.

Thursday pypy time
Bring your spooky avatar if you have one
Today I WILL be dancing and I am HYPED to see how much stamina i've lost.

please dance with me /vrg/
https://vrch.at/qqvfa2jz

Join on Mona~ or anyone else in the instance

I wish I can still get scared by games too...

/vrgg/ is fucking dead again[/spoiler]

>>405244485
It's all in your head, Anon, if you want to be scared you'll be scared. Just immerse yourself in the experience.
t. Spent 2 hours screaming like a little girl on very shitty vrchat horror maps last night.

>>405244692
Wait how did it die. There's a post 49 mins ago?

>>405244692
Come home, white man.

>>405244773
I'm sorry, but you sound like a fucking bitch, anon.

>>405244947
Merely enjoying my time.

>>405244692
lmoa, queue the like, 2 anons bumping it to cope about it for the next week

Why yes, I'm having fun, how can you tell?

>>405187826
>>405236884
thanks for playing frens, good lobbi
might try synth riders lobby next week

need a pic of Cdubb's neck seam, thanks.

>>405247481
dont spend it all in one place

i was trying out vrc on quest pro, wanted to test how it works as a general headset. fiddling with the fit i think i've found it, lenses are at the top of my periphery and with the bottom fifth of my view open to the real world. right now using virtual desktop for vrc with a dedicated 5ghz router there were consistent lag spurts, it was bearable alone or with one person but in large instances it was horrible. the dev for virtual desktop is working on optimizations but i'm going to grab a wifi 6e router and see how much that improves things

>>405235532
Even if Pavlov died, it's not like I'd start running Assetto every Friday. I don't mind doing it more often when I can though, I'll run something tomorrow night if Pavlov gets moved.

>>405247735
my greatest ally.

>>405238504
>quest 2
Supposedly has performance issues on AMD due to more encoding overhead, but I don't think it'd be causing issues like that. I'd heard something about rolling back to the most recent recommended driver for VR if you're using optional. Might depend on your setup though, I'm not having any issues on my Index and 5700XT with the latest optional drivers.

>>405247758
your first mistake was to use virtual desktop

>>405242703
The current UI still seems like it'd be a easier to use in VR anyways, but it'd be nice if they'd get around to updating it at some point.

wow, pypy is packed tonight!

>>405247459
Thanks for hosting

>>405247758
>with the bottom fifth of my view open to the real world
Seems like it'd feel weird with the headset that open.

>>405248676
i got used to it pretty quick, it did offer an interesting view of my real arm continuing into my virtual hand

>>405248521

>>405210807
One hour till Pavlov Zombie gamers

>>405250081
pypacked

does anybody know of a model with hair that's tucked behind the ear (of decent quality)?

>>405251161
make it yourself bitch, blender's free

>>405251684
why are you mean

>>405251815
Usually people are mean to compensate for deficiency.

>>405251161
Use blender and deform the hair

>>405251161
Some of ququ's stuff (https://sonovr.booth.pm/items) has hair tucked behind the ear, may or may not fit what you're looking for

>>405252559
have been, just wanted a better starting off point
>>405252641
couple of these look nice, i'll see what i can do- thanks!

>>405252028
I'm deficient in fucks to give my nigga

The player suggestion document for the /vrg/ soccer team will be closing this weekend and the poll to see who gets on the team will start shortly afterwards.

If you haven't submitted any suggestions yet and want to do so, visit https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r79fcnHrrgEu1avXd0ZwbAwp3SO0KpPKZbwBjvxwv-g/edit?usp=sharing

>>405252872
Thanks. I placed these in.
Everyone better vote for it.

IT'S HIS TURN

>>405253404
Funny enough you suggest that.
The plan this time around is indeed to turn the current Zuckerberg model in to the awful selfie one.

>>405250234
pypenguin

the padding was easy enough to unclip on the pro so it will be interesting to see what will be possible to create for it, i'm thinking a full cap for even weight distribution

>>405253735
haha cok

>>405253731
Dooooood
Where's Etna dooood?!
I need EEEETTTNNNAAAA

>>405253735
Adding a full cap might be important so it doesn't accidentally slip during extraneous activities in VR. At least a string leash

>>405253691
Good

>9:01
where the FUCK is pavlov zombies????

>>405244773
Hey C! I’ll hold your hand next time :)

Great dancing today everyone!
Looking forward to the next time I get to dance

>>405250143
They rise...
Pavlov Zombie is up! Tonight we are going back to the ROOTS; CoD Zombies maps.
We are starting off with Shi No Numa then moving on to Kino Der Toten depending on interest.

Pass: 1984
Host: NickyW

>>405254753
oh it's cod zombies, nevermind. Have fun, folks!

>>405254753
How are we supposed to join dumbass

ok hear me out
if im going to buy a quest 2 am i not better off finding a headset only listing for cheap since its likely ill replace every other component anyway? ie headstrap facial interface and now since the meta touch pro controllers mog the originals those as well

>>405254605
i think s is broken after pypy

>>405256396
>ESL moment

>>405257238
just answer the question why buy a full VR set just to replace 90 percent of it straight out of the box?

Hello, new fag here. What program do I use to watch flat left eye/right eye web JAV videos? Asking for a friend.

>>405257389
So you want to buy a used Quest 2 without a head strap or controllers? Sure, go for it if you can find one. However I haven't seen one listed without a strap or facecover.

>>405257564
i just found several on ebay one was 109 dollars but i already have one and was thinking i replaced 90 percent of this thing by now why did i buy the full set?

>>405257520
No idea, 3d porn sucks