/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1496

https://youtu.be/Mh3HTTa5NFU?si=T_Svn2Xz1Oms-NOb

>>448749346 (Cross-thread)
good racing everyone
first start, we only used 1 (one) restart this time!

>>448752353 (OP)
>3
HO SHIT I still haven't played the second one. Based game.

>>448752773
lucky the trees didn't have collision

>>448753172
cleaner overtake this time

>>448753236 (Cross-thread)
its basically this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TJTgW3_75Q
but instead of looking on a screen i wanna put the video into the vr goggles

it seems like that would require a new custom app and ive never made an android app much less for vr

>>448753620

New hardware survey just dropped.

Open up Blender, buy or steal some assets from Booth, rip some assets from games, it's time to get world building. you have 3 months and the theme is winter, anything even vaguely winter themed is fine.
All skill levels are welcome. If you want to build everything from scratch, that's great, but if you want to use booth prefabs and just learn the basics, then that's okay too. There will be a hub world with portals so anyone can visit the worlds at any time but for the event itself the host will have pre-favourited the worlds so they can drop friends+ portals
You can submit your world by sending your world ID to [email protected], vrbuild on Discord or post it in the thread

Useful stuff (send me more things to put in here) https://rentry.org/vrbuild

>>448754774
bruh

Index 2 is vaporware and I should just get Index if I wanna jump into VR right

>>448756093
What gpu do you have?

>>448756197
6800 xt

>>448756268
lol

>>448756371
What?

>he doesn't know

>>448754280
I started working on this years ago, but only got as far as feeding headset orientation into the drone camera before getting sidetracked; having to deal with the god-awful racket the drones make every time you turn them on got old real quick.
DJI provides a single SDK that works across their entire line of consumer drones, but being a mobile SDK you're looking at a lot of java/kotlin management logic that needs to be piped into your engine of choice.

>>448754774
It's getting overer and overer...

>>448756581
Please tell me

>>448756767
im not looking to send anything to the drone, i have an hdmi cable with the drone video+OSD i just wanna see it on the whole screen of the VR headset

my last setup was using nreal air glasses with analog video using an analog to HDMI adapter and NREAL adapter (hdmi to usbc). but full on vr glasses with wide fov would be better

>>448756093
I still think Valve will release another headset eventually, but I wouldn't wait around for it at this point.
Whether or not you should get an Index depends on what sort of stuff you want to play though. Quest 2/3 or Pico 4 might be a better option.
>>448756450
Probably referring to AMD GPUs having more issues with VR. Not sure if the issues with the 6000 cards have been fixed or not.

Has anyone here tried the GTA V VR mod?

Hit detection on SnD massive server is so bad.

Here are the final standings for Group A in Argentina. This one was pretty rough, had a lot of DNFs and penalties, so hopefully we'll have better luck next time.
New Dirt Rally 2.0 event is up now, we're running Group B RWD in Germany. It's not as tough as it sounds, but I'd still recommend getting some practice in. Event runs for two weeks, you'll have until Monday 10/16 to set a time. Club link is in the OP rentry if you're interested.

>>448754774
Is the Pimax niche really that small?

>>448757814
does your hdmi capture setup work on your pc? seems like you should be able to play its output in any media player and view that in any desktop overlay (steam, desktop+, xsoverlay, bigscreen, etc). the picture wouldn't directly be displayed on the VR screens of course, but you probably don't actually want that, unless you have a 180deg stereoscopic capture in the first place.

>>448756774
>>448754774
I imagine that means there are just more steam users causing it to fall not actually people no longer having a headset.
R..right bros?

>>448759881
They live solely out of simfags now.

>>448760330
Yes... t-that's it...

>>448760107
i can pipe it to a pc and watch it via immersed or something but that just adds another hop + latency (raspberry pi on drone -> raspberry pi on ground -> pc -> vr headset)

i can display the video stream in the headset directly by connecting the HDMI to an HDMI to USB to the headset, i just cant make it play as afullscreen video

maybe if i make a server streaming the video on the raspberry pi and i play it on the browser in the vr headset i can use the headset's video player which allows 180 video


i think ill try it with an ESP-32CAM board, there's a premade test project for it where it connects to your local wifi and hosts a video server for it's camera video feed. if this works with the esp32 it will probably work with the raspberry pi

>>448754774
I like how headset ownership has had an unbroken downward trend since 2020. It's sad to see UploadVR's monthly release lists just be Quest/PSVR2 exclusives at this point.

>>448761220
You can't just take a normal video and put directly on HMD screens, it will be extremely distorted, there is no "fullscreen" for not VR content, just make it a big screen in VR,

>>448761220
yeah, the raspi on the drone should be able to stream frames directly through rtsp to whatever media player. mediamtx (formerly rtsp-simple-server) should work nicely.

>>448761595
i guess i mean like no tracking, i see the image everywhere no matter where i turn my head like it is with regular FPV goggles.

its like this with nreal air normally connected to a phone it has 3 DOF tracking via gyro but when you use outside video with hdmi you just get a screen on your face with no tracking.

>>448761831
there's an app that runs on the raspberry pi that takes in telemetry from the drone too not just the video. thats how it shows stuff like antenna gains,battery, gps coordinates and so on. ideally i want some way to take the whole display of the raspberry pi and make a server that streams it. connect the raspberry pi to the vr headset via ethernet and run it on a video player there.

hey!!

teusday's movie is Whiplash (2014)
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2582802/

A promising young drummer enrolls at a cut-throat music conservatory where his dreams of greatness are mentored by an instructor who will stop at nothing to realize a student's potential.

startng at 19:00 UTC as usual!

>>448752353 (OP)
IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR ONCE AGAIN!


come sign up for secret santa 2023
Form: https://forms.gle/Tg1CsTXyNirQYLsR6
Discord: https://discord.gg/3CtPbue

Deadline for Signups November 1

>>448762912
I just want erp for Christmas

>>448752353 (OP)
OK FOLKS.
Please sign up for being one of the halloween house owners this upcoming halloween event.
Only need 10 house owners per timezone please buy a house!

We have 20 slots total.
10 slots for NA
10 slots for EU

https://forms.gle/VyVVFtycwzL7jF3x5
https://forms.gle/VyVVFtycwzL7jF3x5

Aight current working model is:
1) host opens map
2) people filter in

[DO GROUP PHOTO 1 Here]

(Trick or Treating)
3) get the house owners to their respective homes
4) trick or treating starts as a pre-game for 30-45 minutes
5) everyone uses the gathered candies to kill a giant undead pumpkin chicken that then reveals the proper stage-judge system we use yearly

(Costume Contest)
6) halloween judging event starts
7) should be done in an hr or so
8) score system winners on podium and group photo

[DO GROUP PHOTO 2 Here]

Whole event is then done in 2 to 2.5 hrs max

Event is on October 28

Are there any VR racing games with VR controller support or do they all need keryboard/controller/wheel?

>>448763571
I believe in you anon. I'm sure you can get it. Japanese people treat christmas as the hookup day. Try amongst the japanese circles.

>>448762452
>ideally i want some way to take the whole display of the raspberry pi and make a server that streams it.
ffmpeg can capture the frames and stream them over rtsp, i.e. desktop streaming.

>>448756093
Are you seriously considering a $1000 1,440x1,600 LCD in the year 2023

>Quest 3 demo units struggled with tracking occlusion when they were hold like a rifle, with one controler in front of another

Its ogre

>>448760819
what anime

>>448765795
They are usually mutes which is boring

>>448766107
I mean, even worse than Q2?
Yikes.

>>448766284
https://youtu.be/eezBh2JgoRw?si=5uqQTYKAnXiSrwAX&t=646

https://youtu.be/h1o7qpWegH8?si=wwHr0OeteDxqj-UI

>>448766491
when would you ever hold the controllers like that? If you were holding a gun your hands wouldn't be that close together

>>448765953
its the best option still lol

>>448767147
It's only worth considering if you only play VRC. If not then Index is obsolete.

>>448766941
Small guns maybe. The vz. 61 in Pavlov is like that.

>>448767720
Eh, I'm sure it will be fine. I'm more curious how much better bows are on Quest 3. There is basically no tracking on the sides of your head in Quest 2, but the bottom cameras on the Quest 3 are more or less on the side of the headset

>>448766126
You should get 4chanX, it has nifty little links next to posted images that automatically search it on Google, Yandex etc.

>>448765953
the hmd is $500

>>448767350
Why? If I gave a shit about VR Chat face tracking would be the most important thing to me at this point

What's a good 3rd party cable for quest 3? Does usb C vs USB A matter for bitrate or latency?

>>448769575
>cable for quest
lol

>>448769575
usb-c to usb-c is best if you need cable, but using a dedicated router (or the official dongle if don't want to for some reason) will give way better results while being wireless

>>448769575
use a cable for charging with a powerbank, the included power adapter for the q3 is claimed to be 18W so get a powerbank that can supply that and a cable that can transfer it. get youself a dedicated router like >>448770149 said

>>448765417
There's a SteamVR virtual wheel thing you can use, but I don't know of anything with native support for it.
https://github.com/mdovgialo/steam-vr-wheel/releases

>>448770149
I thought you could force a higher birate through cable and suffer less compression and latency

>>448770982
lol

>>448769410
fingies

>>448767350
Obsolete compared to what? It still has among the best tracking at a middle-range budget, and no latency or video compression artifacts. Downside is the wire.
There is no "obsolete" when all the alternatives are not straight upgrades. Of course the Vive Pro 2 is an option, but getting a Vive Pro 2 with index controllers and base stations is more expensive.

>>448771574
>Downside is the wire.
Screen resolution, fresnel lenses, high rma rate

>>448771930
The resolution on any wireless headset is a meme because you're still crunching the picture to shit, and other than the Vive Pro 2 and Index there really aren't any go-to wired options.
Also the Quest 2 still has fresnel lenses.
The Index cable is pretty bad but I have seen many a vive cable get rekt in the same ways.

>>448772139
>The resolution on any wireless headset is a meme
>t. never used a wireless headset

>>448772281
I have used one. You must be blind if you can't see video artifacts on your screen. Or maybe you play some really slow games where the latency doesn't matter.
Have you used a wired headset lately?

>>448772562
All I'm saying is that you are retarded if you think resolution doesn't matter.
>b-but muh gradients!
Cope. You can move properly, which is much more important.
>b-but latency!
Buy a better PC. Latency is comparable to the index.

>>448772807
>latency is caused by a bad PC
bait

>>448772139
If you like wired the picture on the Bigscreen Beyond is better than the VP2 and Index. It's pancake and OLED which makes things pretty. Perfect for spooky games during the spooky month.

>>448773160
It's literally skill issue + weak pc.

>>448770878
I'll just get a wheel setup I think. I was thinking more along the lines of a car version of VTOL. I'd want to be able to shift too.

>>448773401
If you're planning to play a bunch of racing sims, wheel is definitely the better option.

Where can I get an VRC avatar that looks like this?

>>448773401
BeamNG's VR mode lets you mess around with switches and the door handles with your controllers.

>>448752353 (OP)
:: FLIP FLAPPING 7th Anniversary - Rewatch Edition | October 6 - FLIPTOBBER ::

What is this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flip_Flappers
Flipflappers rewatch along two eps on a saturday and visiting the worlds featured in the anime after. Same time as sunday explore but on a saturday. So SEA exploration timing but on a the day before the usual one.

When?
Sat - 10:30AM-2:00PM UTC - SEA FLIP FLAPPING

Everyone is welcome to enjoy this amazing anime that is essentially exploration of the human psyche via a sort of magical full-dive virtual reality.

>>448773543
Vroid. Make it. Literally make it right now that's easy to do in Vroid.

>>448774014
Thank you

>>448678375 (Cross-thread)
Deep Rock Lobby up. Join by pasting steam://joinlobby/548430/109775244596337441/76561198025337386 into your browser
Turn on your foot trackers if you want to kick things around

>>448773187
>3559x3560
80hz?

>>448777524
I'm keeping 90 with my 4090. It helps that Alyx is actually optimized.

>>448778301
Unless you disabled dynamic resolution scaling with launch option, that res is not real.
4090 can't handle that res.

https://www.uploadvr.com/espire-1-convergence-update/

Better late than never I guess, but the fact 2 is still Quest exclusive makes me think this is almost pointless, already ruined any chance of good will

Seems like Resonite will be releasing as soon as Steam allows them to.
Glad they are, the platform is in good enough condition for use right now, no point in keeping people waiting.

anyone here good at dancing and have fbt? i have some new avatars releasing soon on [gumroad] and looking for people to showcase them with some cool dance moves

workout soon
join FlameG102
or,
https://vrch.at/wrld_8569852d-c089-4df1-87b1-e022d4699438

>>448780742
Evil yum...
Yuck

>>448781149
Uhhh bro?!?
Think you got the wrong thread

>>448781149
ooo saucy mamma mia boinnnng

>>448781149
hello?!

>>448781754
Goodbye?!

Come join us tonight for a very special edition of pypy!

My index cable is FUCKED. I have a lot of multicolored snow, audio popping, and it loses audio and visuals frequently. It's going to die soon.
And I'm going to dance anyway! Come see if my index cable explodes. (A new one will be here thursday.

For those that don't know, at pypy, we dance along with Just Dance style videos. It's fun!

the link:
https://vrch.at/9v0ekjdu
or join on yuru

>>448781149
MINNA

>>448752353 (OP)
Afternoon /vrg/ Lets all get together for a fun Holiday game and event with creative fun and present swapping! I see a lot of fantastic individuals that are capable of making tons of unique things and I want us to celebrate that in this fun White Elephant get together!

This is not to go against /ss/ but, to add a different flavor to festivities!

I also encourage anyone and everyone to seek out workshop groups or other creative channels to learn new things! Everyone is more than happy to help even if you have no experience at all!

Items allowed:
pre-made Items that have been altered or transformed in a creative way ((IE texture work, Alterations and additions to premade mesh))
Items made from scratch completely
Objects, effects or other additional items.

Other than that, it's free reign. Do not feel like gifts have to be Christmas themed, or otherwise, make what you'd like to show off your creativity!

https://forms.gle/nKqn37AJRk4binV27

>>448780742
all of them have incontinence

margarita Monday tonight?

>>448778481
I use that launch option. Works on my machine. Using DX11 mode in Alyx and other games helps.

Ordered a 4070ti to use with my index. I'm seeing lots of articles saying it's got bad VR performance. Did I fuck up? Should I cancel the order and get a 4090 instead?

>>448783903
MANUKA MONDAY

2 HOURS

BE READY

>>448785917
>Did I fuck up?
Yes.
>Should I cancel the order and get a 4090 instead?
Yes. Otherwise just get a used 3080. Manlet memory bus of low end of ada gen sucks massive ass for vr.

>>448783932
Yeah, it does actually. Dynamic resolution scaling was enabled after the reinstall, so it was trying to push level 7 supersampling and dropping frames.
At level 3 locked (100%) it runs it easily.

>>448786376
Lol time to drop 3k on new GPU and PSU

>bought a new microphone
>can't find a single person to help test it
and people expect me to get a full VR set and just take it.

>>448780742
how much diapers do you think each one uses per day?

>>448789650
Desktoppers not welcome.

>>448754280
this would be very interesting to try to make NVG with those drone cameras. NVG-69 is a project to make basically a copy of current NVG but digtial instead of analog. What I want to see though is the benifits of digital vs analog(more fov, thermal addons, UI ect)

>>448790290
from left to right
none, just goes in his pants
one for each time he shits himself
one, reuses it everytime he needs to shit again

How large is your VR room?

>>448794323
bigger than yours

>>448794763
>t. lives in a pod

>>448795457
still bigger than yours

is there any way to apply a modifier to a mesh with shapekys? i want to shrinkwrap manuka's tights since i edited her body a bit and want to be lazy while keeping all of her shapekeys should i change my mind later on. is there a way to do this?

thanks to everyone who came to pypy!
see you again tomorrow at 10 EST

i did a body swap and now my hands are all fucked up looking. is this a controller thing? i put the original gesture and action controller and its still fucked

>>448796015
Duolicate the whole mesh. Remove shapekey on the duplicate.
Use that duplicate as the shrinkwrap modifier target

Manuka Monday!

https://vrch.at/re3pgjtm

>>448765953
>I buy headsets purely based on the screen
>Why yes I don't have a head, ears, fov concerns, warranty concerns, etc etc

>>448759027

>>448791910
the digital drone video system im using supports any camera you can put on a raspberry pi 2w, and they make some vey low-light cameras for those like Arducam IMX462 which i ordered and should arrive in a couple of days.

you can even put thermals on the drone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K93X5zKUSmw
it supports thermals from the HT201 to the FLIR Boson 640 which costs like 10+ times what my drone costs.

anyways my current plan is to get the drone working, ive had constant problems with a new drone build, first it freaked out on the first launch and broke a motor arm and now the flight controller stopped working. after i fix all that shit and get it reliably flying with the raspberry pi based video system ill try to get it to work with vr goggles and in the future i think i might put 2 independent video systems on it with 2 channels and try doing stereoscopic FPV, basically this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgmObWD0pvo
but with high quality digital video to a vr headset

>>448771930
RMA rate went way down since valve fixed the controllers, cables on any tethered headset die, screen resolution is good enough for VR games

Index apologists sound awfully like the you cant see more than 30 frames crowd.

>>448801994
it was impressive when it was released

>>448802078
It ain't 2019 anymore.
Wake up.

>>448802315
It was so good when it was released, every headset since has been a compromise in something or other just to get a better screen.

>>448802315
i have a newer headset now

>>448797325
anyone please help

>>448771574
I don't know how anyone could experience pancakes lenses and be like, no let's go back to the index. It's so extremely outdated and overpriced.

>>448802962
Try a test upload remove the controllers

>>448803052
I've done with no controllers and with the original controllers. I have controllers for FX and other stuff for the original avatar, though. What would "hand idle animations" be under?

>>448802962
Did you head swap.. in unity?

>>448803123
yeah i have stuff that breaks if i take it in blender so i had to

>>448803234
Bro...
Bro...

>>448803290
dont bro me i am not blender competent enough to not break my FT animations

>>448803404
Sis...

>>448803234
bro...sis....cmon

>>448803614
>>448803465
tell me whats wrong with it

Going to be showing Mnemosyne for the next few weeks in place of the usual anime movies.
We'll be doing the first two episodes tomorrow night at 10PM EDT (a little under 20 hours from now). I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

>>448803003
Because all the current headsets with pancake lenses have some absurd downsides to them

>>448803656
You have two armatures separately operating one is expecting the other when you headswap in unity or something. Do it in blender

>Quest 3 - 500 bucks or whatever a Pico 4 runs you
>2x Lighthouse 2.0 - 260 bucks
>Index Controllers - 280 bucks
>Vive Tracker - 130 bucks

Was just doing the math for my own curiosity, but honestly seems like a better deal to build your own Index with a modern headset instead of sticking with the Valve package beyond it just werkin' out of the box. For not substantially more money, you get a better screen, wireless, and the ability to use it standalone if you're not at home while still being the same distance towards outside-in FBT and having finger tracking.

>>448796015
You can do it with this addon.
https://github.com/JanOtt/ShapeKey-Helpers

>>448808982
I really don't understand how any of this is still that expensive besides the headset. Lighthouse and controllers together should be like $250, max.

>>448810321
Low production volume because of lack of mass adoption means high prices. Valve learned the lesson with the Deck and just picked the closest to optimal screen that was in mass production for shitty tablets instead of doing things bespoke. There isn't a similar market for them to parasite off of the production infrastructure for the VR stuff, though.

What's the best fork of openvr space calibrator nowadays for use with Quest/Pico?

>>448808982
>Still need to get dongles for the index controllers
>A decent battery bank for the quest to keep it running for any real amount of time

But the biggest thing you're missing out on is its still a pain in the ass having a mixed setup even after all of these years. Thing keeping me from using my own quest is the 10 minutes of calibrating everything together and making sure it all works instead of just turning on my index just getting on VR.

I hate Koreans so much

>>448798669
30yo dudes larping as underage kids should be illegal

>>448812463
gooks are based

How bad it's going to be?

>>448810505
I use this one, sis...
https://github.com/pushrax/OpenVR-SpaceCalibrator
H-hope it helps!

>>448812543
Normies should leave and go back to shitting up plebbit/tumblr/x.

>>448813268
>return to office
Why are boomers like this?

>>448815056
That's the version that hasn't been updated in 1.5 years and doesn't have continuous calibration.

>>448815321
people were gaming the system and "working" three fulltime remote jobs at the same time

>>448815401
Based

>>448815384
It works well enough for what I do with it.

>>448815384
which version to use then

>>448815321
they need a reason to keep commercial real estate going so that market doesn't implode all at once

>>448815178
Your parents wiped your baby ass and raised you so you could be a deplorable degenerate

>>448815742
I'm happy with making grown men cum in my free time in VR. Don't like it? Leave.

>>448816002
You're in the wrong thread, fuck off.

>>448816002
Good for you, now tell that to your family. oh wait you can't because you are a closet faggot too ugly to get laid irl

What virtual reality video game should I play today?

>>448816103
>>448816206
>Projecting and samefagging
Looks like I pissed it off lmao

>>448815516
https://github.com/ArcticFox8515/OpenVR-SpaceCalibrator/releases/tag/v1.4-bd_%2Baf-r4

>>448812543
who does that harm

Dudes larping as women are cringe

>>448816349
I tried Barbaria again since it got some updates, it's honestly fun in Dungeon Keeper kind of way. Not sure if worth full price but it is enough content to keep coming back daily now.

So uuh, I just got into VRChat and it seems a whole lot more fun with a headset. Which one would you suggest? Someone mentioned the quest 2 but it looks like it's shit.

>>448818802
Quest 3

what's the best headset of I just want to watch porn

>>448818843
Thanks
>>448818928
Fake VR headset with your phone inside

>>448818928
HD 598

>>448818802
Pico 4 bought from a local reselller + good wifi router/ap or Pico 4 pro if you want to have bleeding edge face and eyetracking technology and want to gamble on aliexpress.

Bigscreen beyound + index controllers + lighthouses for the best but expwnsive combo without bleeding edge tech.

In 2023 there is no point buying non pancake lens hmds unles youre an extreme poorfag (then used quest 2 is a good entry to vr)

>>448816956
why that one and not the latest release https://github.com/ArcticFox8515/OpenVR-SpaceCalibrator/releases/tag/v1.4-bd_%2Baf-r5

>>448821853
>tfw got a 4090 for ai shit and am now too broke to get even a used quest 2
Is this what they mean by eggs in one basket

>>448822553
>tfw same boat
rip us, we can only see (at 8k), but not touch.

>>448821853
>want to gamble on aliexpress.
You dont.

what the heeeelllll im looking at slimevr as a fbt solution since i don't have lighthouses and the difference here is quite insane. 1mm compared to ATLEAST 1cm??

>>448821853
>Pico 4 = 600 bucks
>quest 2 is cheap but shit
>Index is expensive but good
>Quest 3 isn't out but it's looking bad and expensive
I'm not gonna make it...

>>448827253
What's exactly so bad about Quest 3?

>>448821909
>Changes: Use only yaw rotation for calibration
>Pitch and roll offsets usually should be 0
>because "up" vector in all VR tracking systems
>is the same.
I can see minor disagreements on where up is causing some problems here, but otherwise it should eliminate a lot fucky wuckies

>>448827253
i got my pico for 280 bucks
Skill issue

>>448818802
Quest 2 is good as a first headset, especially if you can get it for like $100-$150 on eBay.

>>448825820
SlimeVR is tranny garbage. If you want real FBT you have to get lighthouses, or wait for Vive's standalone tracker.

>>448831092
i got a pico 4 and they arent going to compatible with the new vive trackers

>>448810227
>Someone should submit this for implementation into 2.80 if it solves the “Cant apply modifiers with shape keys” stuff.
>Nov 2018

>>448831485
Says who?
Shillseeker's video description says they will be compatible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1jZvbTntvg
>HTC Vive just announced the single device that will likely completely change Full Body tracking in the future! THE FIRST INSIDE OUT CAMERA BASED FULL BODY TRACKER! Confirmed to be able to work on all headsets, Quest 2, Vive XR Elite, Pico4, standalone OR SteamVR

>>448831629
They're already out, they cost almost 600 bucks for set and they only work with standalone Vives for now with compatibility for other headsets "possible in the future".

>>448831629
Oh, i just remember the infographic he posted a few days ago lol. where he said theyre only vive hmd compatible

>>448832192
>>448832220
So you're telling me shillseeker was caught spreading completely false information yet again?

>>448832443
lets drive this negative vibe into a positive one

Does someone here have both slime AND tundra/vive trackers? how do slime compare in your opinion?

>>448832192
>They're already out
I can't find any information on them being for sale anywhere when I google vive inside out trackers or vive standalone trackers. I don't see them listed as a product on vive's official site either.

>>448825820
as someone whos used slimeVR and haritorax before...dont waste your money. its horrible.

unless you plan on just using it sit or lay, its literally unusable. i do one 360 spin and my tracking breaks. i do one kick and my tracking breaks. constanty recalibration. have to use a personal mirror just to tell WHEN the tracking breaks (because otherwise you dont know and you just stand there looking stupid).

just do mixedVR and stick a tracker on the headset. it works great

>>448832740
but its so expensive huuurghh fbt would cost more than my headset guuuhuggggh
i guess i can wait until the vive 4.0 trackers are compatible with other headsets

>>448833041
the vive ultimate trackers are 200$ each..200*3 = 600

3 3.0 trackers (for MSRP) is 390..2 basestations MSRP is 300..390= 690

just buy the good shit that we know works well and not these new camera trackers that probably suck

>>448832443
HTC were the ones who said it would work with any headset, they just left out the part where it won't be at launch.

>>448759881
I hope it disappears entirely. Shit headsets

>>448759881
They have a consistent track record of producing nothing but absolute garbage. Most people know to stay away.

Crazy to me that people still discuss tracking solutions when the quest 3 will have upper body tracking. Then, if you have a phone and two switch joycons, you can take care of the lower body tracking.

>>448754774
There's about 120 million active monthly steam users, so if the 1.60% number is based off of that, 1.60% of 120 million would be 1.92 million active monthly VR users.

>>448762490
Hell yeah I love that movie!

>>448834079
lol

non-basestation tracking solutions only work if youre using it for the most basic usecases. if you actually want to use it to move fast, dance, etc. its not functional. so yeah, no one cares about quest 3 having body estimation - we already can have it with the FBT standable app and it fucking sucks.

bad tracking is more immersion breaking than no tracking at all IMO

Gonna actually use VR for VRChat tonight. What are some cool or useful plugins that I could add beforehand?

>>448835045
OVR Advanced Settings and XSOverlay

>>448835045
dynamic penetration system

>>448835045
https://github.com/vrcx-team/VRCX

>>448835045
No such thing as plugins or mods for VRChat anymore really, but in terms of SteamVR pick up OVR Advancing Settings which will allow you to do stuff like playspace move and mic toggles, and XSOverlay for having a wrist overlay that will always show you the time and current controller battery status. It can also be used to pull up windows in VR.

>>448835045
XS overlay is very useful. Good tool

left or right

>>448835756
can you post a picture without the bratz doll makeup textures and eye textures that arent blurry?

>>448835946
>can you just post a picture with half of the things influencing the look removed

>>448835756
Make the lip texture more subtle (or remove it entirely). Ditch the multicolor hair. The rest is personal preference.

>>448836026
yeah, it'd probably look better.

>>448835756
why tf are the eyes so dumb looking lol

>>448836921
they still have some highlights in them that i'm gonna change in unity
>>448836067
you're right the lip is kind of overpowering i'll lower them
>>448836074
shut up bitch

>>448835946
>>448836074
sums up most of these retard edits

>>448835756
I like right better.

>>448834260
It only includes people who run the survey.

Do i preorder quest 3 now or order quest pro?

>>448838701
Do you care about eye/face tracking?

>>448838776
a bit?
im more concerned about the tracking

>>448838701

think about this way

quest 3
> 650$ for the only model worth buying (500$ for 128gb which is basically useless now)
> shitty strap - will need a pro strap (70-130$)
> controllers use costly batteries, suck at tracking, add 200 for the pro controllers
> looks dumb as hell
> no eye tracking
> no face tracking
> no local dimming
total: 1000 + tax

quest pro
> 600-700$ used
> built in pro strap
> comes with pro controllers, lithium ion batteries
> looks sexy as hell
> eye/face tracking
> local dimming
total: 600 used or 1000$ new

not sure why anyone would buy a q3 until it pricedrops T B H

>>448838701
>quest pro
a meme which won't have support in 2 years, they already stopped manufacturing new ones
good thing is that the controllers are compatible with Q2
>>448838701
>only model worth buying
>storage
>when you're just going to hook it up to your pc
lol

>>448808982
>$1170
you forgot to add:
>strap replacement
>facial interface replacement
>audio solution with jank extra cables for splitters and some adhesive/zipties to keep it on your 3rd party strap
the index is the better all-rounder package if you're going for the full hybrid setup anyway
with nofio coming out soon you're gonna have lower latency and less compression than wifi fags as well if you really want to go that route, and you won't be lugging around a heavy battery on the front of your face in an uncomfortable plastic shell that cuts corners to be sold at a cheap price
>t. I own all of these hmds so good luck convincing me otherwise

for purely pcvr is quest or pico better?
I don't want to wait for valve and the index seems too dated but I just want to play pc games on it

>>448759027
How do you guys record your stuff, i know its a bit of a retarded question but i had a nice Safe with my Opel i wish i could share right now

>>448821853
you can use newegg for pico 4 pro now

>>448839936
Quest pro halting manufacturing rumors were false.

>>448839936
if youre only gonna hook it up to the PC why get a q3 which only has a benefit of being faster for standalone games.
anon-kun if you plan on doing pcvr theres no reason anyone should be buying a q3 lol

>>448839949
nofio uses wifi and its garbage, they had the chance to use wigig like the vive wireless adapter but their retarded brains couldnt figure it out.

I have a Rift S and I'm looking for a new headset

>>448835480
>he is unaware

>>448835756
left better imo
that little notch on your lipstick is weird though, makes you look like you got a cleft lip

>>448840637
If you want to risk it running some retard's client that you have to pay monthly for, go for it.

>>448840308
guess vrtubers overhyped yet another product because I recall them saying latency was very low akin to vive wireless

>>448835045
PyPyPlug and a lovense.

>>448840762
People are paying for mods now?

>>448840762
>he is very much unaware

>>448840925
Normies are, yeah.

>>448840890
>trusting vtubers after the mocopi incident

>>448841190
did that shit even ever release? haven't heard a peep about it since the original news

I mean kinda off topic but people bought into the rayCON Bluetooth earphones
They're shit, don't bother using them for VR, lol.

can't wait to see picocel cope after the quest 3 release

>>448841829
q3 is just a pico 4 but without rear battery placement (worse weight balance) and a new arm chip that pcvr users won't even be using

>>448841942
ah, nevermind, the cope has already begun

>>448841260

its complicated, you can buy it now but so many people returned and complained about it being bad that sony flip flopped and now say its only meant for flat vtubing and NOT 6dof VR. even though all the early youtubers were advertising it for vrchat. at this point its basically a scam.

>>448842049
prove me wrong

>>448841942
>new arm chip that pcvr users won't even be using
still need it for higher bitrate

>>448840925
me on the left

>>448842867
>assuming the people who buy cheap vr are willing to upgrade to a 4090/7900xtx for av1 and get a wifi 6e router just for their cheapo headset
damn this full kit price be bussin'

>>448839727
>controllers use costly batteries
Sometimes I forget that this is a contested issue. Modern fast charging brings it closer but internal battery is still a downgrade from rechargable AAs for me. They're cheap, have uses in other devices and I already own several pairs. If they run low while I'm ingame it takes 10 seconds to replace them. I've never had an 'oops I can't play anymore guys because I forgot to charge' moment that I occasionally hear from Index users.

just gonna say it, quest 3 (and quest 2) looks like something a virgin would wear. cant they just paint it black or something? i dont want this diaper on my face

>>448842114
>higher max storage
>better chipset
>less jank OS
>better MR
>higher peak pixel density
>70 grams lighter
>higher FOV
>higher refresh rate
>better support from a larger company

>>448843126
>higher max storage
useless for pcvr
>better chipset
useless for pcvr
>less jank OS
useless for pcvr
>better MR
useless for pcvr
>higher peak pixel density
lol, lmao; picrel
>70 grams lighter
but all front-heavy so it won't matter anyway
you'll be buying third party straps and using a bobo battery pack on both of them anyway in the end so they'll both be heavy/similar distribution of weight
>higher FOV
lol, lmao; picrel
>higher refresh rate
will suck your battery dry faster, add latency because of the shit wifi wireless setup trying to push more bandwidth through; enjoy those smoother compression artifacts though!
>better support from a larger company
kek
the company should be as hands off as possible but if you buy from a reputable store you'll get warranties for both
pico not even requiring an account or internet access to use the thing with pcvr is already a huge selling point of Meta garbage
I own 4 Oculus/Meta hmds btw :^)

>>448840297
they stopped ordering parts for it's production, so no one knows exactly when they'll stop making them but they did. the other rumour was that the pro 2 was cancelled which boz rebutted by saying that a version of it was scrapped but they're still working on the line

>>448843597
>better chipset
>useless for pcvr
retarded- more processing power means the stream from your PC can be decoded more efficiently
>less jank OS
>useless for pcvr
retarded- the pico 4 has an insane amount of software problems that constantly prevent you from playing because it's a jank chinkslop headset. Q3 tracking, reliability, and updates will always come out on top
>picrel
I actually don't think you're literate
but if you really want to pay nearly the same price for objectively worse chinkslop then please, continue to recommend this dogass hmd in these threads

>>448844358
>retarded- more processing power means the stream from your PC can be decoded more efficiently
>>assuming the people who buy cheap vr are willing to upgrade to a 4090/7900xtx for av1 and get a wifi 6e router just for their cheapo headset
>the pico 4 has an insane amount of software problems that constantly prevent you from playing because it's a jank chinkslop headset
from my testing you just turn it on, have streaming assistant open, and connect
wow
Meta products will not work without access to WAN :^)
>but if you really want to pay nearly the same price for objectively worse chinkslop
if q3 had face/eye tracking there'd be a better offer on sale here to offset the fact that its a Meta product

>useless for pcvr
retarded- more processing power means the stream from your PC can be decoded more efficiently

this is a retard myth that people keep saying but is outright false, even with a 4090 you wont push enough bandwidth to actually hit the cap on decode for a q2. no one is pushing 900+ streams, its simply impossible.

>>448844606
>no one is pushing 900+ streams,
and even if they did the latency would make it worthless

>>448843597
ouch on that vertical field of view

It's actually really important for porn even if nothing else

So since pancake lenses seem to be the new big buzzword, just how good is it really? (vs index lenses)?

>>448847367
they just allow for smaller hmds
similar glare profile depending on coatings
maybe more clarity but this also heavily depends on the optics stack and how the hmd is laid out

>>448847531
So they don't improve the visuals quality?

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Search and Destroy!
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Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

Password is 1629
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Maps are on mod.io now! The easiest way to download them will be let the game download them.

>>448848115
they lack the rings that fresnels typically have but there are always tradeoffs
and ofc each optics stack isn't always created equal when comparing hmds
from my understanding the primary selling point is reduction in size; see:
>pico 4
>quest 3
>quest pro
>bigscreen beyond

>>448848171
It is Pavlov day!

>>448848776
miko a hoe

Pavlov day!

>>448825384
The chances are pretty good though. I personally know 6 people who gor pico 4 pro without an issue, and one loud toilet chan who got unlucky

>>448756093
either get a cheap quest 2 while we wait for something better or get a quest 3 or pico 4

>>448844606
The chip supports AV1 decoding with is 30% more efficient so yes, the quality will be better. However, the latency AV1 adds has yet to be determined.

>>448848868
faq u

>>448840239
Newegg gambling...

i'm trying to put apply a pose as rest pose after i made the outfit match my base and fixed it up a bit.
HOWEVER
when i click apply as rest pose, it doesnt apply the actual changes i did and just goes back to how it was initially, what do i do here?

>>448849917
Did you apply all transforms?

>>448847367
>>448848115
Quest pro's lenses have a coating that remove the glare. it's crystal clear for me

>>448849961
i did not, i forgor... but after applying them it seems its not 1:1. i did do some sculpting before applying the transforms so i guess that's what did it? i guess i'll have just have redo it a bit right?

>>448844358
>the pico 4 has an insane amount of software problems that constantly prevent you from playing because
Never had an issue, if anything pico has a better streamer compared to airlink. There's also no bullshit like lottery updates, no account required, install apks out of the box, ...

>>448848115
fresnels you have to stare directly into the center of the screen or it will be blurry
if you want to read anything you have to turn your head like your eyeballs are paralyzed
pancakes are basically clear over the entire lens with some warping at the edges

>>448844358
Zucc shill go back

>>448849196
wtf does 30% more efficient mean...if youre not hitting the bottleneck with the old chip why would it matter if the new one is more 'efficient'? FOH retard

>>448849917
>>448850314
Did you have any blendshapes active?

>>448851337
It means for the same quality compression it takes 30% less bandwidth? Obviously. Jesus christ, how stupid are you. What do you mean "you're not hitting the bottleneck"? Then what is the bottleneck if it's not the hardware or the cable or the compression algorithm??

>>448851851
the bottleneck is always the source ENCODER..even a 4090 cant feed enough to a quest 2 for the DECODER to be bottlenecked. so a stronger chip for this makes no difference.

you are literally retarded sorry to inform you

>>448851520
only on the base body mesh
>>448849961
i applied the transforms and just now tried applying it as a rest pose again and it didn't work

>>448852131
Okay, but with AV1 you also get to use the AV ENCODER on the 4090 so it's still 30% better. You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

>>448852131
We need specific codecs for VR, which don't make up frames or interopolate, which have low compression ratio and low latency. H264 and other youtube tier meme codecs will always be shit.

>look at grass or a tree
>it's a complete blurry mess

>me, an actual retard, when two people saying smart sounding things are arguing with each other and calling each other retards
uhhh i put on the headset and it just works.

Question does like particle spam mess up the compression like confetti does for youtube vids?

>>448849917
duplicate then apply

>>448852645
yes

>>448852732
if you mean duplicating and applying this it also does nothing

>>448852324
but AV1 will increase latency so... good luck!

>>448852973
>>448852732
OH WAIT ITS SUDDENLY DOING SOMETHING NOW

>>448852324
>>448852423

ok, listen up retards

NVENC does not operate on an efficiency basis for video streams, you can not compare flat files (video files, etc) to video streams. the latency that AV1 introduces is enormous, theres no possible way youre going to use av1 over x265 HEVC. i doubt meta will even offer it as an option without using ODT

>>448852973
then apply pose as rest pose, dummy

manuka seggs

>>448853420
okay i did it and merged the armatures after, but it doesnt seem to have done it right. i named both right upper arm bones "UpperArm_R" for example, but there are now "UpperArm_R" and "UpperArm_R.merge".

>replacement Beyond arrives
>displays are no longer overly warm (SteamVR dashboard was obviously tinted a warm hue on original unit)
>no dead pixel spotted yet (original had one I quickly noticed near middle of left eye)
>replacement strap with a non-broken clip does seem like it'll be nicer than two velcro ties I was using in the meantime (original strap broke within less than a minute when I was fiddling with it and the cable)
good luck beyond bros, idk how common the display QA differences are but these two units are my sample size

>>448853198
h264 h265 av1 all are horrible for VR. Meme tier horrible. All is shit. I'm really confused by lack of proper codecs, like intel made for Vive wireless, or the company Nofio partnered with.

>>448852872
Lmao i already thought wireless was a meme cuz of the battery but never thought about the compression

>>448854298
just looking at grass makes it fucked up.

I tried Pico 4 after only riding proper wired HMDs and my friend was like "what do you mean? It looks great" meanwhile the grass/trees is just a blurry mess, a lot of random movement is fucked.

A lot of people tried VR with Quest 2 first nowadays, and have NEVER EVER seen how it's supposed to look like in movement or high detail textures. They just think VR is supposed to be weird and blurry. Oh right and the compression artefacts ARE NOT STEREOCORRECT. Yes.

I wish I could be like them and ignore the artifacting, or maybe they just cope with their
>just increase bandwith and switch to HVENC it's FIIINE!

>>448855493
yknow i didnt consider that people have only ever experienced VR via compressed means
sad, really

>>448855493
>>448855601
Ya thats actually crazy to me i have no concept of what this compression looks like

>>448855493
Fair argument
However - i hate wires so much its unreal.
Its real shame they dropped display port on pico 4

>>448855754
thankfully pico 5 pro max is here to save the day
soon tm?

>>448855794
Bet my ass it will be china only

>>448855906
newegg might offer em eventually
i have no clue when they started selling the pico 4 pro here

>>448855678
Gradients banding, movement delay, high resolution complicated textures (grass, trees, etc) turning into non stereocorrect blurry mush, a lot of movement creating non stereocorrect blocky mess, slight bluriness/artifacting (also non stereocorrect) around text edges. Even when scene is good for h264 there is still slight weird bluriness/non stereocorrectness about it, which most streaming apps try to overcorrect with bitch basic sharpening filter which creates halos and other artifacting. I guess it's all you can get used to, but man...

>>448855493
I generally don't notice, but for certain worlds like the putt putt lake and the bug catching one it kinda slaps me in the face.

>>448856102
When I tried putt putt lake and looked up to trees canopies on my friends Pico 4 I got really SLAPPED by bluriness of the trees. But man, even the ground texture on hills got fucked.

And he was like? Huh? What do you mean? What artifacts? (He just got Pico 4 and it's his first headset)

>>448853852
consult the documentation of whatever script you used to merge them

>>448855493
I know how you feel. After being memed on that wireless wasn't that bad, I bought a Quest. It was like night and day how much worse things were. The issue with the picture has already been mentioned, but in Ragnarock I couldn't hit any of the notes as the delay was unplayable at ~40ms. I have a 4090 and a wifi 6E router attached to my PC too. After the Team Beef Quake 4 port comes out I'll give that a whirl, but afterwards this thing is getting sold. It's the last time I'm trusting /vrg/ when it comes to these things.

>>448856665
what the fuck? walruses are bigger than polar bears? I always thought polar bears were massive but didn't know walruses are absolute fucking units

>>448856559
i figured it out right after you sent me that message, i had to use pic related option to make it happen.

>>448856269
This is kind of why I'm still thinking about the bigscreen beyond or a future deckard even though I have a Pico 4. I have really good vision, so any compression artifacts become really obvious to me. And then there's things like external batteries and playspace calibration.

>>448853198
Virtual Desktop already added AV1. Just need people to get the headset to test it. It will probably work fine, I don't think the latency increase will be a lot.

>>448857265
meme codec cope

>>448857165
beyond cable is pretty light but if you want to do 360s I guess you'll notice it
external batties + internal batteries for all the common wireless options are indeed a meme; i can't see myself using those kinds of heavy hmds again after the small boi
hybrid was a meme when I tried but I know people just tape VIVE 2.0 HEAVY MOTHERFUCKERS onto their headsets to solve it; if you have a tundra that would be way less painful but jesus idk how people stand it

>>448857165
The last two are part of why I'm not so keen on a Quest, even if you can get a cumstained one second hand for $150. To get a Quest to work well you need to

>Buy a top of the line router
>Buy another headstrap
>Buy battery banks
>Juggle those battery banks while playing so you can play for more than two hours at a time
>Deal with third party calibration software to keep your trackers in line
>Buy another tracker to make the drifting less bad
>Buy third party streaming software as the default software sucks
>Fuck around with the software a lot to get either bad image quality with good latency or good image quality with bad latency

I don't spin around when I'm playing with a wired headset anyways, so I don't end up having to do any fuckery to make everything just werk.If the eternal two weeks ever passes and Valve has their take on wireless streaming I'll give that a whirl, but for Facebook PCVR is so obviously an after thought it's no wonder that all of this jank is involved for an ideal experience.

I only ever see the compression when some funny textures decides to encode like shit and or heavily forested areas like in skyrim.
In VRC or other questie-tier games it doesn't even register.

>>448857505
That's one reason I like the Beyond. It has no memes, all comfy. Facebook is a decade away from being able to miniaturize things to that level due to their obsession with standalone and AR which I would never use.

The Beyond might not be a perfect headset, but it's the best one there is.

>>448858358
yea as someone who doesn't want standalone shit shoved into their hmd that I'll never use its the only thing that makes sense atm
Pimax is hellbent on ruining their status as a SteamVR HMD cause they want to chase that shitty ARM storefront revenue and appeal to way too many people; they really should just focus on one audience

>>448857505
i have a tundra on my qpro (on the battery part) and its not noticeable unless you lay down, its very balanced

its the trade off for going wireless until they make a real wireless basestation headset. i cant go back to wired, its horrible to have to constantly unwrap the cable when i do 360s constantly.

Im stupid or the page is unclear
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are those myopia lenses or just the frame? tje RL option suggests the former

>>448857505
I put my tundra on the top strap of my quest pro for hybrid and it's completely a non-issue. only downside is remembering to plug it in when done.

>>448860536
does it not moving around (ie: not statically mounted) cause issues?

I just came back from my road trip. Do we have New Index 2 news?

>>448858716
>when i do 360s constantly.
tf are you doin man
>>448860536
both of these are $1000 (was $1500) hmds with a $125 dlc for tracking fixes btw, also gonna want the dlc for blocking out light and the money needed for steamvr base stations, fbt...

>>448860626
It doesn't move much, as its tensioned when on my head. doesn't slide because i put velcro stickers inside. Continuous calibration is also fine with a little deviation here and there. I never get drift, so it works pretty well for me

>>448860536
bro what the hell is that face covering..youre like 2 miles from the display. whats your fov? 50?

>>448860829
bro gonna talk about headset DLC when the beyond doesnt even have speakers

wired-cels are crazy

>>448860829
Sorry anon i wasn't arguing against the beyond with me saying hybrid is a non-issue for me. if you dont want gimmicks beyond is definitely the best headset right now. also light blocking is a meme and comes free. other stuff i already owned so not a huge investment
>>448860928
anon have you never seen a qpro

>>448861259
>anon have you never seen a qpro
are you dumb. that picture shows another face cover on top of the existing one lol. looks dumb as hell

>>448860536
Why'd you buy the clear one?

>>448861107
$1000 ($1500 originally) + $300 + $125 + $360 + $279...
also add a Wifi 6E router cost and a 4090 of course!
hybrid just doesn't seem worth it; if you're gonna go zucc might as well stay in his ecosystem and wait for the Mr. Beast AI legs

>>448855493
I've only ever used wireless, but you can even tell just by playing something in standalone mode. Standalone games will have shitty visuals, but it'll be crisply shitty. I hate wires too much though and my VR area is not near my PC.

>>448861465
i bought one and haven't unboxed it
transparent plastic is cool!

>>448861365
its the same size as the stock one, my image just doesn't show that very well. my eye lashes touch my lenses and i can see the edge of the screens, so fov isn't an issue for me here
>>448861465
I preordered it when it was announced because i like clear toys and wanted one more tracker. it just happened to be the one i chose to put on my qpro

>>448861623
not sure what youre actually adding there but to get a functional setup:

BSB (1000) + speakers (100+) + knuckles (300) + stations (300) = 1700

qpro (1000) = 1000

if you want hybrid qpro with knuckles you have
qpro (1000) + knuckles + stations = 1600

qpro wins again??

>>448861623
bad takes as always

>>448861975
Quest Pro + 2x Base Stations (minimum) + 1 Tundra for HMD + 3 Tundras for FBT + Index controllers (2 minimum)
>speakers (100+)
lmao

>>448862018
zucc cope

>>448862126
their point is that minus the extra tracker you are going to be be paying the same amount either way. the financial argument is not a sound one here. It all comes down to what you want out of a headset

>>448862126
but you have to buy all those things (minus one tracker) + speakers for the bsb..it ends up being more expensive..

or you can just use the qpro controllers instead of knuckles and come out wayyy ahead. this is what i do. qpro controllers get more battery life so i prefer them to knuckles.

>>448862282
i only use my qpro controllers with real games. for vrc i still prefer finger tracking. but at least i have the option and that's what matters

>mfw buying a qpro used (600 ebay) and the index refurb kit (600 @ gamestop) and making a hybrid qpro for 1000$ after selling the index hmd

>qpro wins again???
https://mixed-news.com/en/meta-quest-pro-canceled/

>>448862254
>>448862282
yea and im saying hybrid isn't worth it cause that's all just hardware and still excludes the wireless hardware upgrade you'll need too; also ignoring extra batteries
why do you guys keep ignoring the extra costs? the pricetags I listed were purely for steamvr hardware cause no one can stand being in vrchat without the fullbody setup and a qpro user aint gonna settle for slimes or shartitora

>>448862452
because batteries are dirt cheap? if you want to nickel and dime everything, then bring up that you need access to an iphone for a bigscreen to even be shipped to you

>>448862764
>access to an iphone for a bigscreen to even be shipped to you
ok cost of gas to go to your local apple store if you don't have a family member who has one

>>448862449
this was literally proven false but nice try

>>448862452
people ignore the cost of a wifi 6 router because everyone in 2023 has one or is gifted one by their ISP. its like saying you also need to have electricity to power your computer, it makes no sense.

add in the price of a cable replacement for a BSB and you can talk add in the cost of a router i guess..

are you also gonna add in the cost of renting or owning an iphone to take the face scan for the BSB? cuz you dont need that for a qpro.

maybe also add the cost of you running into your wall with the BSB since it doesnt have passthrough.

in the end it actually seems like the qpro is the most econimical headset, with face-tracking, eye-tracking, wireless, pancakes, self tracked controllers, speakers, microphone, passthrough..that BSB doesnt have.

What's the best headset to switch between wired and wireless? I've tried wired on the quest 2 and the latency made it unplayable. Maybe the cable was bad though.

>>448862941
how much are they paying you?

>>448862968
There was pico neo 3 link that had an actual display port connection on top of being a standalone headset but i wouldnt buy fresnel in 2023
Your best hope is to wait for pico 5 max and hope it isnt china only

>>448862941
nta but the bigscreen does at least include a good mic.

>>448862941
>lists pancakes and microphone as things BSB doesn't have
?

i simply like both the quest pro and bigscreen, qpro just has the features i desire while bigscreen doesn't. even with both being over 1k that's not a lot of money for either of them, so arguing the economics of either is dumb

>>448863120
>best hope is to wait
I kind of figured, but the wait has felt so long.

>>448862941
>people ignore the cost of a wifi 6 router because everyone in 2023 has one
lol
>or is gifted one by their ISP
lmao
you overestimate the ability of the average user to buy network hardware alongside the generosity of an ISP (read: jews)
>add in the price of a cable replacement for a BSB and you can talk add in the cost of a router i guess..
lmao
>are you also gonna add in the cost of renting or owning an iphone to take the face scan for the BSB? cuz you dont need that for a qpro.
see >>448862908
>maybe also add the cost of you running into your wall with the BSB since it doesnt have passthrough.
lmao
>in the end it actually seems like the qpro is the most econimical headset, with face-tracking, eye-tracking, wireless, pancakes, self tracked controllers, speakers, microphone, passthrough..that BSB doesnt have.
pico 4 pro says hi and those controllers are an overheating meme
you're gonna be using hybrid anyway cause everyone gives up on coping with the shitty tracking on these hmds

are you zucc shills honestly telling me you all use the built-in audio on these fucking headsets? how do you stand it?

>>448863334
Yeah i can tell
i waited like 2 months for pico 4 pro only for it to come broken and now im on the fence between getting quest 3 and pro

>be a wiredcel
>ceiling has intricate pulley system making it look like a bondage dungeon
>cant move more than a few feet from my pc
>have to sit perfectly still in the center of my room
>hop in vrchat
>try to spin around to talk to someone
>pull the entire pc off my desk when the cable snags

feels good being superior

>>448863427
get another pico 4 pro

What are our thoughts on the man, the myth, the lizard himself?

>>448863681
picrel

>>448863563
the cope compressionlets have to invent...

>>448862968
Sometimes I wonder if you guys set your shit properly when talking about latency or compression.

>>448762490
hey!!

movie starting soon! in about 10 minutes!

tonight we're watching Whiplash (2014)

The road to greatness can take you to the edge

https://vrch.at/uug9mzed or join off Lumadurin !

>>448863862
we've already seen that the best this shit has to offer is already >20ms on a blank grid view

>>448863681
probably the best of the worst when it comes to tech bros

>>448863563
you should also note this particular wiredcel plays vr exclusively on linux

>>448862968
Vive Pro/Pro 2 with the wi-gig adapter.

>>448863931
yeah and you can't tell lag in the actuall headset when it's sub 60

>>448860817
Index 2 announcement in 2 weeks

>>448864026
you literally need to dissasmble the headset to switch between wired and wireless on the vive

>>448864079

>>448864026
vive has the worst optical stack of any brand, no thanks

>>448864079
The lag at 60ms is way too much to play rhythm games with. It's part of why I don't use my Quest for rhythm games and do all my Ragnarock wired.

>>448864079
>youtubelets

you do all realize that the BSB uses compression over wire?

>>448864283
i just do my rhythm games through the headset, everything else through VD and steam

>>448864482
yes it uses DSC just like Vive Pro 2 and basically every 4k 144hz monitor on the market since nothing supports DP 2.1 on the HMD side of things
you can thank Nvidia

>>448864482
shhh, dont crush the shill's heart

>>448864504
>actually using standalone

>bring my qpro on work trips
>jerking to 8k VR porn in the hotel room

vs

>BSB attached to my pc like a hospital IV

>>448864795
what wrong with doing beat saber or ragnarock standalone? both can use custom songs, although bs is stuck at 1.28 support

>>448864795
go recompile your kernel again

>>448864687
DSC is fine.

>>448865014
dude VR porn fucking sucks

>>448865119
yes it is
its used in tons of devices

>>448865116
the popcorn is already in a bag

>>448865120
it used to suck, but they got new cameras and tech and now the newer stuff is pretty amazing. like i legitimatelly sometimes just watch it for the visuals now, it looks really good and they fixed the proportion problems.

>>448865381
did they ever bring back those 3d scan ones that got demoed in the dk1 days?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YsvD4RyWJn0&t=7s

Any1 still playing pipe bmx?

>>448864482
nigga thought he was being clever lmaooo

I can see why people died in these things

>>448864482
DSC a visually lossless, line by line compression which doesn't increase latency, it's not meme youtube tier h264

>>448865381
Got any recs? It sounds like a lot more fun than messing with VAM or whatevs.

>>448864104
He said Vive Pro - it's literally five seconds to unplug the cable and plug in the wireless adapter.

>>448843597
I unironically trust Meta more than Pico. Seriously, ask yourself this.

They're obviously selling the Pico 4 at a loss so how are they making their money back? Their standalone store is trash so they're obviously not making much money there, there's practically no accessories they can milk money off, and they don't have much presence on PC to milk money like how Meta has the Oculus Store.

So what goes Pico really gain from this?

>>448842114
Q3's new chip will be compatible with AV1 coder which allows for better latency and compression. It'll support Wi-Fi 6E too. Huge benefits PCVR heavily.

It offers an alternative option for better tracking with the Pro controllers. Benefits PCVR heavily.

Has a headphone jack which also benefits PCVR heavily.

Believe it or not, having proper passthrough with depth improves the PCVR experience because it means you can actually do PCVR software development with the headset on. Which is great for devs. For consumers, it motivates you to keep the headset on without having to take it off to do every small thing. For example, easily having a look at your phone. Drinking water, or maybe taking a piss. It has a depth sensor to give the best sense of depth for these things.

Also, I've seen various people on Twitter who tested the Quest 3 demo station at local electronic stores talking about how the lenses are a lot better than the Pico 4. Once again, another benefit for PCVR.

>>448867095
>Q3's new chip will be compatible with AV1 coder which allows for better latency and compression. It'll support Wi-Fi 6E too. Huge benefits PCVR heavily.

my nigga, this is literally wrong. AV1 increases latency.

wifi 6e doesnt help pcvr (as proven by the quest pro which has it) unless you already have congestion. aka only useful for apartment-cels.

I really am starting to believe Meta actually does pay people to come to /vrg/ and shill.

>>448867095
And yet its the pico that can be used without internet access
Quest will stop working after few days without phoning zucc

>>448867227
but m-muh agile beams

>>448867248
its that or sunk cost fallacy

>>448867324
>Quest will stop working after few days without phoning zucc
this isn't even true. i run my quest pro purely offline

>>448867248
Yeah, Meta actually pay shills well. I don't really understand people shilling for Pico or PSVR while getting nothing in return.

>>448867248
i am a Meta ambassador

>>448869543
How much do they pay and how do I become one?

>>448863414
>are you zucc shills honestly telling me you all use the built-in audio on these fucking headsets? how do you stand it?
Yeah I do.
I should maybe do a comparison with my old Index to get a feel for what I'm missing. I've just had zero desire to because fresmemes.

>>448864795
standalone is fun
just pick up headset and instantly bing bing wahoo
I don't have to fire up the steam boilers to power my creaking monstrosity of a VR rig and the fans to blow off the hellish heat coming from a demon spawn GPU that I have zero use for otherwise

>>448870864
>this was supposed to convince me

>>448867634
How do you mean? I'm an enthusiast with multiple headsets.

>>448870964
I really hate having a discrete GPU you have no idea.

im convinced that wiredcels dont actually play any active games

wired is fine for sitting perfectly still but i like to run around, do handstands, crouch, dance..etc..and it just doesnt work on wire. especially if you have to be in same room as your pc.

>>448871216
yes, and?
not every HMD is actually superb just because you bought it
hell most of them compromise in several ways

>>448871458
the average person is not doing handstands with a VR headset on, wireless or not.

>>448871458
>play any active games
>i like to run around, do handstands, crouch, dance..etc.
yea i really like to... do handstands and dance... in my vr games like blade and sorcery too anon

>>448871458
I do all of that with a wire (except a handstand lmao who tf does that in vr), l2cable management, tard

>>448871652
show me how you do 360s without ruining the cable in a few hours. constantly having do counter-clockwise 360s to fix it is super immersion breaking.

>>448871458
I don't have space to do that even if I didn't have muh wires.

>>448871756
can you post a video of yourself running around like a little dog for us since you chase your tail all the time apparently?

>>448871463
As in I don't have sunk cost because I don't just buy Meta headsets?

you know anons, its okay to like the headset you bought and still like headsets you didn't buy

>>448871914
but this particular hmd is $1000/$1500 if you were a sap who bought at launch
thus creating a need to justify the purchase and keep using it rather than letting it sit like a paperweight after it has issues with controllers overheating or whatnot

>>448871756
I just untangle the cable once I'm done.
>enjoy buying a new cable
Three years going strong

>>448872004
i dislike many of the headsets I bought

>>448871839
like 90% of dance is doing 360s, do you just not dance or what? awkward....

>>448872038
>thus creating a need to justify the purchase
not really? i just use it, it's my preferred headset. why does it have to be sunken cost when i actively enjoy my purchase?

>>448872169
>CAB moment

>>448872038
Yeah? It's not really that much. I've spent far more on dakis.

>>448872004
fuck you!

>>448871563
the average person is not doing handstands at all.

>>448872309
? wdym, handstands are pretty average fitness. american schools require them IRRC

>>448872478
no they aren't.

>>448872478
is this what the new sissy educational standards are enforcing nowadays?

>>448872548
i was in HS in 2016 and in order to pass phys-ed we needed to bench 150lbs, hand-stand for 30 seconds freely (no wall support), and run 5 miles consectutively

did they dumb it down now>?

>>448872478
>american schools require them iirc
??????????

>>448872751
i havent been in hs since 2013, but that was never a thing for us

>>448872478
they absolutely do not

I feel like this is the same 'dance' autist who used to complain about full body because it doesn't track the shoulders in 2018.

>>448872751
private school?

>>448873496
I don't know who the other guy is but I do have the full 8 tracker setup.

I've just remembered that I have 3 Vive 2.0 trackers collecting dust. Should I use them for knees or elbows?

finished merging armatures and fixed some fits and weightpainting, should i be concerned about the vertices count? isn't 70k+ supposed to be very bad? also also is there a way to merge meshes in unity so i don't need to merge them here?

>>448874492
yeah, if youre over 70k you will get blocked by everyone basically. friends will still see you.

typically you want to delete all the stuff thats hidden by clothes to get the tri count down, just make sure that you dont delete skin that will be seen through your sleeves or w/e.

>>448874302
you'll benefit most from elbows.

I have 7 3.0s and just end up using 3 of them because I don't like the extra baggae on my body.

>>448875149
same
gonna just start using two sets of 3 for long sessions where some die early

>>448874637
Is it fine even if I'm at 69.999 vertices or do i need to be significantly below the limit?

>>448874637
>he blocks Very Poors
t. plays at silky smooth 30fps

OH NO
i made a fucky at some point and accidentally rotated the clothings arm. trying to rotate the mesh itself is not leading to good results but i cant just rotate the bone now cause i already merged it with the base
please dont tell me i need to do it all over again please tell me theres a way to fix this easily

>>448876889
>please tell me theres a way to fix this easily
Sure, just open one of the many recent backup saves you made from before the fuck up. You did make those right anon?

welcome to blender comrade

>>448877091
anon i made that mistake like 4 hours ago
it is over.

>>448876889
At least next time you will do it much faster.

>>448877153
Save before every merge, test thouroughly after every merge. We all learned it the hard way

>>448863563
>be "wireless chad"
>launch pavlov
>look at red surface
>the entire world goes blocky and falls apart

>>448876889
Duplicate the armature and put just the clothing on the new armature. Do your changes there, apply it as rest pose, then put the clothing mesh back on the main armature.

>own 3 wireless hmds
>use none of them actively

>>448872478
>McSchools requiring any physical activity beyond grabbing goyslop
kek

>>448877790
YOU ARE A GENIUS THANK GOODNESS I STILL HAVE THE MESHES SEPERATED

>be "wired pulley chad"
>launch pavlov
>turn too quick and lose balance
>hoist by own petard

>>448877925
>YOU ARE A GENIUS
I hear that a lot, hope your avatar idea works out anon

>>448874492
kys

Why is this guy using blender to add a booth outfit to a booth avatar, you can just do that in unity lol

>>448877925
Sis I hope you learned from this mistake.

>>448878782

>>448878782
so true

>>448867324
This always gets me. I don't want to buy a raspberry pi at their current prices, set up pi-hole, and then selectively un set it up when I am required to update on top of all the router fuckery and software fuckery and account fuckery and space calibration fuckery to get things to work. I'm not going to consider wireless unless Valve has their own polished solution as at least half of the fuckery will hopefully go away. I also hate jews and chinks, so less Facebook is ideal.

>>448878782
its made for another base, this process is more time consuming than i anticipated

>>448879286
Only buy rpi at MSRP.
They just announced the 5 btw so just preorder one of those.

>>448879287
You can alter the bones in unity to make it fit different bases, that's how everyone does it for booth avatars

>>448879287
I did my first for the Pokemon event, while it was long at first, I'd say that now that I know the process next time will be a LOT quicker. Don't underestimate how much you're learning rn.

>>448880728
Ignore this anon. He is wrong and a villain

>>448840118
I use OBS with the OpenVR plugin to record, then convert anything interesting to webms with WebM for Lazys.

>>448879286
As far as I know, you can still block most of the telemetry directly on the headset with Oculess.
https://github.com/basti564/Oculess#disable-telemetry-apps
Can block anything that doesn't work on with something like Netguard, which you should be also doing on a Pico if you're worried about being tracked.

>>448867324
i literally can't use my quest without a meta account and my phone actively paired with it

>>448884815
You only need it on initial setup/factory reset to get pass the lock screen.
It still sucks though. I wish there was a hacked firmware so quest can work completely offline.

>>448884815
I sideloaded the meta app to my phone for setup and then deleted it
but yes it's retarded

>>448863880
thank ya'll for coming
"good job"

i'll see those who can make it next week for whatever!

Running Roller Coaster Race Circuit in Assetto Corsa tomorrow night at 8PM EDT (about 25.5 hours from now).
Car list is pic related, let me know if you have anything else you want to run.
Mods are below and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg

which one?

>>448890619
Tabor I guess

>>448890619
amognsu

Another day, another yikes.

>people putting sex toys in their SS wishlist
White Elephant it is

>>448892586
shocking

>>448890619
>dyschronia
How is this?

>>448890619
Had no idea call of the sea had VR support

All the hate on Zucc , but you will all miss him when he pulls the billions of funding that goes he pumps into vr per year.

>>448893412
I'm yet to play the first 3 games.

>>448893524
I will not, because he's used so much of that money bribing devs into nerfing their games to the point where they can run on cellphone tier standalone headsets.

>>448893524
Zucc can eat shit. VR can prosper just from scraps from apple at this point.

>>448893858
>scraps
>from apple who completely locks everything down

>>448894907
>t. a retard who doesn't know how supply chains work

>>448892586
I still don't quite understand the difference between them and at this point, not sure if I fit in doing either one.

>>448890619
Of the ones I've played Saints and Sinners is the best one. I could even call it a real game given that it's longer than four hours.

Anyone played Babaria? The base building sounds cool.

>>448893501
Meta Quest only

is it better to turn shadows off or on in liltoon

Does Quest Pro with wired quest link actually look better (less compression) than the previous Quest headsets on wired link? I've seen multiple people from different places saying the link quality between the headsets is huge. Doesn't really make sense since the processor is basically the same

Do you have to go into Blender for shape keys and stuff or can you do it all in Unity?

>>448901317
You have to go into blender unless you have a special add-on in unity

>>448901498
Bro let me into the secret add-on club please

>>448901539
No. You can't handle the special addon. It's too strong for you.

>>448901720
Please please please

>>448796015
>>448797372
https://github.com/przemir/ApplyModifierForObjectWithShapeKeys
Apply modifier to objects with shapekeys

Oh I remember saving this in my asset list. See if this still works

>>448901720
I need your strongest addons.

Bros... how do you get bussy off the brain? I lewded a mute last weekend and can't stop thinking about it. I haven't messaged them since as I don't want to sound too clingy. Walk me through it.

>>448902412
Treat it how you treat normal porn dude.
Just do your life and be horny when appropriate.

>>448902412
Skill issue

>>448902412
Have sex

So I took up playing the jaw harp recently. With no one to play it to I hopped on VRchat, people on there tend to like it when they aren’t telling me to fuck off for interrupting their shouting session. I’m quite new to VRchat, is there any (populated) world made for giving a performance?

>>448903623
>is there any (populated) world made for giving a performance?
Yes! Login near jp peak hrs and go to the intersection in Japan street public world
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_02cb84c8-446a-484b-b52b-2c1777e55f8d

>>448903623
Just B has the stage and I've seen people perform on it before.

>>448902412
I think the easiest and most permanent way would be to simply kill yourself.

>ERPed with a real-life girl in VRC

Holy shit I've basically lost my virginity.

Pampers, can you fuck off.

>>448903623
nice jew harp

I'm thinking about binge watching overlord tomorrow
will anyone show up if I drop an invite here?

>>448903623
People often do performances in Hwabon Night (Korean public world) or the great pug.

>>448804931
Mnemosyne starting in 10-15 minutes, you can join off Silencen or anyone in New Cinema 1336 if you're interested.

hello, it's time for Tuesday pypy:
https://vrch.at/vdpk5hgj
or join on Lycosella

Anybody have a good recommendation for tracker straps? My waist one is finally ripping (3+ years of waggling for comedic effect) and I’m not a fan of the Velcro for the feet. Anything that’s all buckles that still fits the track strap charger squares?

>>448910059
https://www.eozvr.com/products/vrchat-x-eoz
Adding to my own post, has anybody tried these? The green ones are OOS for feet and I’d like to buy a whole set at once.

>>448910375
I have the green v2's, they're coming back in stock in a few days and they're great. You can get the belts cheaper on aliexpress and they're the same basically.

>>448896830
SS is targeted so you know who you'll be giving the gift to, which allows you to customize it to their liking. White Elephant is completely random (and typically irl has a cost cap/predefined rules so you're not 'expected' to spend a lot on it)

July buyer here, my Beyond face scan email just came in. What should I expect?

>>448910375
i have been using these and they are great
bought a 2nd set to replace the elbow/knee straps and just have two sets of waist/feet to swap out when batteries die on my tundras on long sessions

>>448911119
make sure to pixel hunt and compare display color tones to what you'd expect on something like the Index
get a simple audio setup in mind; currently I like:
>usb-c to 2x 3.5mm splitter
>quest 1 earbuds
having two or so small velcro ties to route it along the top strap is good

>>448910864
>which allows you to customize it to their liking
The wishlist is just a suggestion box. I've noticed most people joining love to get anything from the bottom of someone's heart made specifically for them and with them in mind.

Aren't you a middle aged man?

>>448911119
Getting it by late december at best.

>>448910375
best ones. i use the vrchat ones and they feel like i'm wearing nothing, especially the feet which seem like just new socks, but i've heard the vrchat ones don't fit larger feet.

>>448903623
I used to play those pretty well. It's a real pain for a mic to pick up so good luck.

So i have a rift s, but found out my ipd doesn't fit for it so it doesn't look that great, i live in Norway and they don't sell the index here, i hear the quest 3 and pico 4 isn't great in terms of usb c cabled image quality because of the compression and i only really want to use my pc for vr since i have a 4090, and i don't want to get a 5ghz router right now. so i guess there really isn't any upgrade path for me yet from the rift s in terms of pc vr?

>>448918619
could always fall for the Pimax Crystal meme
or HTC Vive Pro 2 meme

>>448919151
What about the Bigscreen Beyond meme

>>448920102
gotta wait for q4 for euros on that one

>>448920102
You aren't getting it until next summer if you order now from what I remember they posted about their delivery schedule, but I could be wrong.

>>448920243
>International Orders: Delivers November 19 - December 31

>>448920348
Wasn't that for preorders since all of the rest of the post was also talking about the people who preordered in various timeblocks?

>>448920417
it just says "International Orders" under "Preorder Date" so maybe they'll all get lumped into that anyway

>>448920348
For preorders.

>>448890619
>no vertigo 2
complete bullshit
Tabor I guess but it's not "game of the year" material

>>448920520

Vertigo 2 is such a sad case of potentially good game being ruined by the absolute shit taste of the dev.

>>448909012
nice pypy pypyers
next NA pypy is Thursday 7PM PDT / 10 PM EDT

i have a 1 mesh 1 material avatar and i wanted to add transparency to 2 parts using a mask, i made those parts both black in the mask but for some reason one part deletes stuff behind it (left pic, above in right pic) and the other doesnt (below in the right pic). what's going on, how do i fix it?

>>448924529
i forgot to mention, i tried both poiyomi, silent and uts and while in uts it doesnt delete it shows the other side of the mesh, like if the affected part had front culling enabled

>>448877153
Best you can do is select the entire arm's mesh in edit mode and rotate it with a little bit of proportional editing on

>>448880921
>>448879287
The process never gets quicker, you just get better at it.

>>448920645
There's nothing wrong with it. Chances are you're a shit player that gets hung up on reddit issues.

If i merge all my meshes in blender, will i still be able to apply matcaps to individual parts of the mesh in unity or what? the booth stuff i bought also came with matcaps, emissive maps and some othee textures too. i looked it up and apparently you CAN merge meshes in unity but they all need to use the same texture, so first i'd need to atlas it all in blender right? is CATS automatic atlas alright?

>>448926671
>If i merge all my meshes in blender, will i still be able to apply matcaps to individual parts of the mesh in unity or what?
Only one material of each type.
You can however make multiple different materials even if you've merged all your meshes

Need Halloween ideas,

IS VRCHAT FOR US (THE FAGGOT ANIMES) OR THE NORMIE TDA MODBEAST EBOYS/EGIRLS???? IM SERIOUSLY DOUBTING WERE A TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC HERE

>>448927839
>US

>>448927839
Target demographic will always be leaning to those who pay.

>>448924529
>>448924637
Turn off (or on I can't remember) z writing.

>>448926671
The compromise you should make is that most shaders let you apply 2 matcaps at the same time using masks to determine what matcap affects what area. Due to this you are pretty much limited at combining textures that use the same matcap or combining 2 that use a matcap with 2 that don't and using masks.
Cats auto atlas is retarded bad.

https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Booth_Optimization_example#Considering_Materials
shows a more manual merge of two materials

>>448927839
Furries are the really overlords of VRChat

>>448924529
>>448924637
i rearranged my atlas differently (i had them in a 2x2 grid, now into 1x4) and the stuff getting deleted changed but i guess it's still unreliable
>>448928792
i had it on and turning it off just breaks everything even more, gonna just try with separate materials

>>448927839
Furries are the main target. They make all the maps, they make all the tech, and they are the biggest spenders.

>>448929373
Sometimes you will need to have a seperate material for an effect, so don't go overboard with merging. Just merge stuff that you don't need anything special on, for the most part.

>>448929175
Isn't Material Combiner the same stuff that guide does but automatically?

>>448929462
Kinda, but it murders the fuck out of the materials. You can try it if you want and see why I don't use it.

Has anyone ever tried taking a character they created from Koikatsu and added it to VRchat?

>>448929658
Yes and they all say don't do it

>>448929394
>Created DPS
>Created VRCFury
>Created VRCFaceTracking
>Had a massive VR con with Tupper
>Most of Neos/Resonite devs are furries
I kneel...

>>448929856
You forgot physbone

>>448929856
Never underestimate the power of furries. We live in their world and there's nothing we can do about it.

>>448925332
Couldn't care less about reddit politics and sheboon protag actually.
Game design wise the game is bad.
Imagine creating a shooter with so many guns just to make them all, but one or two, feel like absolute trash.
"Just collect multiple upgrades to make gun go from absolute garbage to bad!".
You just can't defend that shit.

neck yourselves furfags

>>448918619
>and i don't want to get a 5ghz router right now.
Why?

>>448931094
Oh, you didn't side with commies? I guess that's minus one usable gun for you then :^)

>>448930130
>>448929856
>Ignoring all the stuff the jps and anime people made
What I just see here is that furries are the loudest and most forward with their promotions

>>448910375
>>448910560
Where do I buy EOZ stuff in the EU? I don't like importing, be it US (EOZ directly) or China (aliexpress).
Or if that's not viable, what'd be an alternative?

I need:
chest strap
2x foot strap
belt strap

Maybe also elbow and ankle straps.

>>448931990
I bought them from here
https://unboundxr.eu/eoz-premium-vr-strap-x3-bundel-riem-voet-strap-medium?sqr=eoz

>>448932335
Oh, that shop sounds neat, thank you!

>>448920531
probably because it's not on quest so it gets ignored

>>448897536
Barbaria would honestly be my vote. I bought it when it came out, it was okay-ish tower defense/Clash of Clans/Dungeon Keeper mix but there wasn't much to do. But it was incredibly polished and while you had new things to do it was fun and combat was entertaining in the GORN over the top way.
Now I installed it again and it's basically completely new game, the devs keep pumping out new updates, free DLC, ranked seasons, balance patches, graphics got upgraded, you can put in custom music - there's enough to do that you can play daily and still have something to unlock or improve.
The base building is now pretty polished, you Lego together dungeon pieces with different layouts to make maze, invaders have to go through each piece and break its crystals, different pieces have different crystal placements and defense, you can upgrade the piece to get defensive mobs and more points to place more mobs and traps. It's fun, it's the closest thing we have to proper Dungeon Keeper sequel now.
So yeah, from that list I would vote for Barbaria simply because it's fun and the devs didn't leave it to rot like many other VR games.

>>448927163
>materials
what are those, is it a unity thing? so far ive only applied the usual single texture in blenders no normals no nothing. i'm also not at my pc rn

a lot of the videos i see on the more recent slimevr dyi jobs showcase it with really really good tracking. Like, extremely good for 100$. what these videos fail to show is how often they need to recalibrate (i remember one video saying recalibration is literally a button press and nothing else) so i'm wondering how often you would have to recalibrate it

>>448935004
https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Unity
https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Blender
Material is a general 3d modelling concept.

>>448892586
I don't see anything like that on the wishlist anon

>>448939019
I vaguely remember it mentioned you do fast resets every 20 minutes and a full reset every hour or 90min depending on the IMUs

Just recieved my EOZVR v2 feet and belt straps. They also gave me a little cloth bag that I can store them in.
They were sold out in EU a bit over 2 weeks back so I just bought them directly from eozvr.com in China. Build quality seems really nice. Not that fond of the choice of colors, but it is not like anyone is gonna see me use them.
Now I just need to buy the actual trackers, and somehow get my hands on some index controllers as my vive controllers are not comfy at all to use.

>>448927492

Any events today?

>>448946256
EU PyPy

What was the name of a game with blonde girl on a beach? I remember seeing webms of it months ago where you peeked on her taking shower and she kicked you. Looked kinda similar to VR Kanojo. I searched a bit but the only thing I find is Summer Vacation but it has no lewd content so maybe that's a different game?

do amount of material and meshes matter? or should I just focus on getting very low memory texture?

>>448950174
All three of those matter, so get them all as low as possible. Try to stay within VRC's medium performance ranking in terms of meshes, materials and VRAM and you should be okay. Lower is better though.

>>448950174
It matters.
https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Avatar_Optimization

Optimization is whack-a-mole. Optimize down to what you need.

>>448947986
Dead Or Alive

>>448950869
Girls don't kick you in DOAX and it was a PC game.

>>448950174
If you are a lazyfuck look at this https://github.com/d4rkc0d3r/d4rkAvatarOptimizer

where do i find normal people in vrchat

>>448927839
https://twitter.com/VRChat/status/1704872180670992508

>>448943840
feet straps are bad, they go under your feet and make it feel bad to actually walk. they also wear out the velcro fast.

most FBT people attach their trackers to a spare pare of comfy shoes. makes it way easier to put on and off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkYwHKR1Ee8 (go to 5:15 if you just wanna see him move around and not talking about his experience)
idk bros slime vr looks pretty good and its like 400 bucks cheaper than buying lighthouses+tundras/vive

>>448955578
Hope you like calibrating every 30 minutes

>>448955361
i have straps that can just go around my ankle
makes walking much freer

>>448955578
>>448955618
You get what you pay for. I hope a lighthouse tracker comes along with imus in them as well as like a backup or like when you wanna purposely occlude them with like a blanket.

>>448955578
slimevr is absolutely awful. i used it for months. every fast movement would break it. trackers drift away on their own. i had to use a personal mirror just to monitor myself because the trackers would do whatever they wanted.

also slimevr kit is 450.....

2 basetations (new) = 300
3 3.0 trackers (new) = 380

thats only 280$ difference...in the longrun of VR thats nothing.

>>448955361
>most FBT people attach their trackers to a spare pare of comfy shoes.
doubt that the majority of FBT people are using shoes.

>>448955618
you mean pressing one button while laying down/sitting/standing? big whoop

>>448955578
I'm still wondering what components to get on aliexpress. I feel like their docs on the website is a tiny bit outdated but it sounds like a fun project to do and I haven't pulled out the soldering iron in a long time. Right now I'm about 80 euros for the electronics and I'm wondering what to get for straps or cases.
Their software really improved I feel like, there's way more smoothing options and/or predictions.

>>448955846
I makes WAY more sense to make your own since then a full set is only like $140. Works out better if you don't have lighthouses already.

>SlimeVR

>>448955846
anon you just picked the most expensive slimevr kit that tracks stuff not even 3 normal trackers track. the stuff 3 vive trackers track can be tracked with just the 160 buck kit. also
did you even get the official kit or did you build it together yourself? did you calibrate everything correctly?

>>448955894
Their docs cover quite a lot; BN0 recommended for first timers is what I heard.

>>448956054
don't buy or order on their site, they're never gonna ship shit
some people have been waiting 2 years for their fucking order
I mean you do whatever you want but in the end I feel like this project is much better as DYI one

>>448955860
you cant recalibrate while sitting/laying down...you have to t-pose. which sounds easy but when its every 10 minutes (in my experience) and you have to use a mirror or be near a mirror...not fun.

the worst part of bad tracking is that when you decide to dance for example..you do one move and then your leg is 2 feet from where it should be. but you dont know this and you end up dancing for 2 minutes and looking like an idiot. or if youre just laying there chilling with your boyfriend and your chest tracker just teleports away. and you dont realize it. on vive tracking it resets itself, slimeVR you have to manually recognize it and get up and t-pose...not fun! and like i said, this is CONSTANT