/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1500

Should I get the quest 3 or just wait for the pico 5? Honestly I want something that can do games and also have very good clarity for multiple monitors when I work.

>>449803973 (OP)
Early Bigscreen Beyond impressions after receiving my pre-order yesterday. It started getting kinda long so I put it in a pastebin.
https://pastebin.com/AZFCx7sc

I like it so far, will need to fully test it out this weekend.

>>449804149
I'd go ahead and grab a Quest 3 from somewhere with a really good return policy.

>>449804542
Like?

>>449804640
amazon

>>449804426
why is it all shattered?

>>449804640
My usual go-to would be Amazon, but supposedly Meta has a really good return policy if you buy directly from them too.

>>449804426
>that peel

>>449804976
It's that peel-off tape that they put on new stuff that are fingerprint magnets.

>>449804976

>>449804426
> It felt like the same resolution jump to me going from CV1 & OG Vive to Index, and now Index to Bigscreen.

Welcome to the world of 2.5k per eye. Bring your own vram though...

When I upgraded from OG Vive to Pro 2 it felt like Jesus came all over my eyes and healed my cataract.

Might as well repost.

Initial impressions from messing around on quest 3 yesterday:

-Calibration with trackers and controllers when not using uniform lighthouse hardware is aids and I will now pour one out for questies
-Display: Mogs my index into another dimension and looks drastically better than the quest 2 and vive pro that I've used before. Mine came in with no dead pixels that I can notice. Glare on the lenses felt notably lower than my index though I need to do more testing on different maps. I could barely notice the fov difference because the edge to edge clarity on the lenses was so much better than the index that my brain was struggling to acknowledge that I no longer had to physically move my head to read text outside of a time sized circle like on my index. Outer edges are darker which is a bit weird but it feels like a small price to pay for the new clarity.
-Power: Even while wired and using a stronger than base brick/power cable to feed a third party link cable I couldn't run the headset indefinitely. I'd ballpark that I couldn't get more than 5-6 hours of power on time before I'd need to take it off and charge and maybe 2 hours with it from full charge not plugged in best case.
-Audio: built in audio is mediocre and for some reason the mic sounds worse than the quest 2 to the point that I suspect it's a software level issue because it's that bad. It is really not good.
-Comfort: Still largely shitty like quest 2 with base strap though it sits a bit less shitty on the face since the center of mass is shifted more towards your face. Aftermarket strap is still mandatory.

Honestly out of everything aside from figuring out the cancer of space calibrator my main concern was that I can't get the fucking thing to charge while in use. I was using it more or less full send via virtual desktop but even turning the brightness down and switching from the supplied 18w adapter to a 45w samsung adapter/cable just would not result in even neutral battery burn.

>>449805073
the peel on beyond is unironically frustrating cause it has a bunch of tiny flaps

Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 event reminder, we're currently running Group B RWD in Germany.
It's not as tough as it sounds, but I'd still recommend getting some practice in if you're not comfortable with any of the cars.
You still have until next Monday (10/16) to set a time. Club link is in the OP rentry if you're interested.

>>449804426
sorry about the tiny panels bro
I guess I'll have to just go full Zucc shill with my Qpro then

Running Naruto Skyline in Assetto Corsa tonight at 8PM EDT (about 7.5 hours from now).
Car list is pic related, let me know if you have anything else you want to run.
Mods are below and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg

>>449805152
I suppose to follow up on this I don't have enough of an idea of the colors yet though it did feel like when I turned the brightness down it didn't get as dark as the index if you care about vr snoozin. Colors seemed similar enough but hard to tell til I've been through a variety of maps, the increase in clarify is still pretty jarring compared to my index and it's gonna take some re-adjustment for sure. Also couldn't figure out how it's supposed to sit on my head because there just didn't feel like a sweetspot existed because basically everything outside the outer edges was clear though it's hard to say how clear because I'm used to everything outside the center being actively eye straining on the index even when I had it sat perfectly on my face. I wish I had a qpro or a pico for comparison because right now I feel like my index is visually a paper weight in comparison aside from the vastly superior mic/audio solution.

>>449805152
What exactly are you referring to with calibration, just setting up your play space? If so it was way simpler on my Quest 2 than CV1, you just draw the bounds with your controller. I could imagine the auto play space set up with the 3 being cancer though.

Also, wireless should actually solve your battery problem as long as you get a 45W PD charger that has a compatible cable

>>449804426
>I can feel my bottom eyelashes touching the cushion sometimes which is annoying.
you want to make sure you're wearing the top bit like on your eyebrows or so
there should be a good amount of space downwards

>>449805152
They glare is not so bad? So many people are complaining the glare is worse than Q2 which is my biggest issue I had with VR headsets. Idk what to believe

>>449804426
My monkey wife...

>>449805678
Meant trying to get the index to work with vive trackers and an index controller. The actual playspace setup speed from the quest was very solid. Running the mixed playspace shit is cancer and I've ordered an extra tracker so I can do the continuous calibration meme. I was burning juice on air link with the link cable plugged in as well as running it wired even when I was on my 45w samsung charger.

>>449805908
I mostly use my index which has pretty bad glare and it didn't seem as bad though again I haven't tested it extensively yet in maps where glare would be a particular problem so take that with a large grain of salt.

>>449805824
>you want to make sure you're wearing the top bit like on your eyebrows or so
Yeah I am, I took the faceplate off the headset and then held it to my face and looked in the mirror, and it seems like its actually my eyelashes are rubbing up against the sides of the cushion, not the bottom.

>>449806116
huh, could maybe ping support and see what they suggest/might do to alleviate that

>>449804426
>90hz mode still sharper than index, but it didn't give me the same wow factor or feel like the resolution jump I was previously describing as it did in 75hz
>With the Beyond, the middle of the screen is god tier resolution, but if you move your eyeball to look anywhere else you're going to see lots of blur, lots of chromatic aberration.
That's super disappointing

>>449805648
>I wish I had a qpro or a pico for comparison
That sounds like my experience with the Qpro coming from an Index. I can tell a bit when it's tilted down too much but it's more a vague sense of wrongness in my eyes than actual loss of clarity. Even that may be because I wear glasses.

So what happens if you buy a Quest 3 from Amazon, claim the free game, decide you don't like the headset, and return it? Do you just keep the free game? Seems kinda crazy if that's how it works

>>449806220
once you adapt to it, you really dont look at the edges as much
they emphasize looking straight ahead to get the best periphery vision as well and since its so light moving your head isnt a chore anymore

>>449806489
It's a digital key, and Facebook already paid for it so it's not really it's not like they're going to give them out infinitely as well they'll just remove the "free game" when the keys run out on the store page

I'm real tired of hearing quest shills constantly. Fuck you if you don't have an Index.

How do you guys deal with sweating all over your headsets? What's the proper cleaning method or prevention

>>449807008
face cover that allows for sweating and then you wipe it off

>>449806952
This is why waitfags always win in the end
>Better than the index at 1/3rd of the cost

>>449806757
I already don't look at the edges much, but I was hoping for something that would actually improve that. Seems like Q3 does, but it has it's own set of drawbacks.

>>449806112
Oh okay, I can see why mixing the two would suck.
Are you sure your Samsung charger supports PD3.0? It might not be actually negotiating the full charger wattage if it doesn't. I don't see why a big name brand 45W charger wouldn't, but stranger things have happened.

>>449806952
I have an Index. There's just no reason to use it after getting a Qpro.

>>449807217
people were saying q3 has similar sweetspot to q2 so not sure; seems like it just has a different type of quality loss at the edges?

>>449805152
for mixedVR calibration you should be using continuous calibration with a tundra tracker stuck on the headset. it literally works flawlessly, dont need to ever calibrate and it starts automatically with steamVR. if you didnt know better youd think it was working as a standard steamVR device

>>449807182
but the hmd cost is the same?

>>449807770
According to >>449805152 it's a bit darker at the very edges, but sweet spot is way better than the Index. That sounds like an improvement from what I'd heard about the Q2.

>>449808045
i only ever used q2 for a few sessions but I can't say I ever had problems with its lenses at least
then again I also didn't really have issues with Index sweet-spot either

Phew! Glad we changed threads since mom and that were fighting in the other one.
Have anyone picked up any VRChat cuties (female) lately?

It has been a couple of days, but it still counts!
Location in VRC is still TBA, so simply join on Suro.exe or one of the DJs.
Or anybody who might be there, it's an open party anyways.
(this is 10 PM CEST btw)

https://youtu.be/UVznwf0Z9h4?t=278

Screen lottery in Quest 3 confirmed by someone who isn't a shill

starting now, join here:
https://vrch.at/0axhbsvz

>>449807182
To get to the point where I'd actually consider it better than an Index, you're adding a WiFi 6e router, aftermarket strap, battery bank, external audio setup, and Quest Pro controllers to the base cost of the headset.

god damn the quest 3 is ugly and makes you look like a retard using it

why cant they just paint it black like everyone else

>>449803973 (OP)
why do only the sos events get added to the op

>>449809310
white is more apple-like and meta wants to be like apple

>>449809413
Pretty insufferable, isn't it?

>>449806786
It already says on the page that the deal ends in January

>>449809452
if they want to be like apple they should just kill the quest poorfag line and introduce the quest pro 2 as the quest 4

>>449809413
guess who makes the op

>>449809651
they enjoy having the mass appeal that a lower pricetag brings, subsidizing costs via data tracking and other means of course!

>>449809641
Well there you go

>>449808704
i feel like sim users are like furries where they just have an absurd amount of spare money to spend on incremental upgrades

>>449809926
Don't really give a shit about sims, but at least it knows how to point out the flaws. A 512GB version with dead pixels AND a worse screen than the 128GB he got is terrible. It seems like the amount of Q3s with dead pixels is very high

>>449808704
That anon was on to something with the panel manufacturers slipping overall

>>449808704
>there is screen door effect
How? I don't get any screen door from the Quest 2

>>449809651
apple was quick on the draw in the beginning, so they were able to secure the "insufferable faggot" market for phones
for VR, Meta was too late to the party and lost that potential to the Vive line

>>449809926
>i feel like sim users are like furries where they just have an absurd amount of spare money to spend on incremental upgrades

Yea. If you're spending thousands of hours doing something, it's suddenly easier to justify dropping whatever you want on smaller upgrades because you don't have other hobbies eating up your money. Same reason people who play computer games endlessly don't mind spending thousands of bucks on a video card to enable the fancy graphical effects.

>>449811182
He has to be confusing that term for something else, because the actual screen door effect has been eliminated for a while now.

>>449811182
you can definitely see borders between pixels on q2, reconfirmed that recently when comparing it and pico 4 which you can also see the borders between pixels on

>>449806757
That still is pretty disappointing because modern high end headsets have pretty great edge to edge clarity and I can actually move my eyes in other pancake lens HMDs without killing the image quality.

>>449809926
It's still significantly cheaper than the real thing, which is what a lot of those guys are comparing it to.

>>449812292
there aren't many other pancake lens HMDs on the market and only one of them has microOLED

>>449811758
>Same reason people who play computer games endlessly don't mind spending thousands of bucks on a video card to enable the fancy graphical effects.
4090 owners, please stand up

>>449811807
No it hasn't. Plenty of people can still see SDE even up to around the G2 or so. You have to get thing to like the Bigscreen, Varjo Aero, or Pimax Crystal before it's truly gone outside some very rare edge cases.

>>449812504
Probably getting one in Q2 next year or something unless it turns out that something even better is in the horizon. My 3080 super is acting strange these days.

So, I was referred here for a recommendation on bypassing EAC. I'm trying to do it for a game that's coming up on end of service. I'm trying to get it to run as a server.
I was told this general has some experience in EAC bypass/disabling.
(FYI, doesn't matter if it's "detected").

>>449813108
if you're feeling baller, you can get one used
the 40s all came out after crypto mining died so they wont be skullfucked like 3090s are

>>449813128
lol

>>449813128
virtual reality?

>>449812982
i can see the SDE on bigscreen beyond

>>449814562
interesting
I could only see an individual pixel when it was dead

>airlink uses 2-3gb of my vram
>vd uses basically none, or < 500mb

how is this possible? i have an 8gb card so i basically have to use VD if this is normal

you know damn well you want to lick her butt hole

>>449815154
different settings in regards to bitrate/resolution/encoder type

>>449815154
WAIT WAIT WAIT wireless uses vram??? Am I misinformed here does using a cable also use vram? If so how much less or more?

>>449815154
Facebook software moment

>>449816257
Video encoder isn't free

>>449816257
its the decoder/encoder running in the oculus SW thats using the vram....so yes both cable and wireless would be using the same since its still encoding it for USB transfer.

>>449813445
Was told this general would know due to VR Chat.

I ordered a Kuject Design QC so hopefully my quest can keep charge while playing pcvr linked

Okay I give up on HL2 VR, it's just annoying and not fun. I got about 7 hours in and I don't think I had any fun at all. The puzzles, the physics, the vehicles, all very annoying and the firefights are okay but not worth all that hassle

>>449816807
bruh just get a power injector...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtFu5N5UP6U&t=1170s

Work on the deckard already, gay ben, you FAT FUCK

>>449814562
You must have to be REALLY REALLY looking for it then because I absolutely can not see that shit on my Beyond.

you: a plebian who uses fresnel lenses and doesnt see an issue

me: a chad who uses aspheric lenses and 4k displays, and still sees SDE, muira, and low pixel density

>>449817408
brain issue

>>449817408
same
t.gearvr mod on vp

>>449808704
There’s screen lottery for every single VR headset. That’s bound to happen when you mass produce something. I don’t know a single VR headset that isn’t a lottery.

>>449816945
I had a blast with it. The only thing that was jank was doing platforming sections since you needed to be running at sprint speed for most of them. Everything else was fun and felt really good, even if the base game itself was showing it's age with how far we've evolved on a level design field.

>>449817730
lotterys are typically hard to win...the q3 just officially shipped and we're already seeing screen problems. the bigscreen beyond has barely shipped and we have tons of people with issues. seems like the chinks are getting lazy with QA.

>>449816945
I don't think you like videogames

>>449817668
vp has shit resolution ofc you'd see SDE

>>449818557
I don't think you like arguments. Maybe you just forgot to have one

>>449818663
still better contrast and colors than index

why are people so obsessed with dark colors..do you really need your BBC porn to look as dark as possible?

>>449816948
the absolute state of hybridfags

>>449818838
it also has dreadful black smear because its standard OLED

>>449818936
there are anons in this general who don't know any better... dear lord

>>449818064
Everything felt jank to me. You're expected to switch between weapons a lot but both switching between them is a pain in the ass and having to remember how to reload each one during a fight is a pain in the ass. Feels like most of the fights in this game is just me fumbling around with controls trying to pick a weapon or reload a weapon while enemies spawn around me. That's not how I remember HL2, I don't know what this is but I know I don't like it. Not to mention the vehicles. My god they suck, every little rock in the road can flip you over

>>449818936
It's more immersive when shadows are actually dark with no light being emitted from them rather than gray. Horror games, space games, anything where light is more than uniform. OLED has a bigger color range in the first place so other colors look better too.

>>449819375
Goddamn thats a massive skill issue

>>449818936
Lmao its actually crazy looking at the difference between my oled monitor of my dark room and the index.

>in publics
>everyones avatars disabled (obviously)
>talking to a robot, seems like a cool guy
>turn on his avatar
>rex

just kill me

>>449820205
furry jumpscare

It's wild when I run into somebody, call them a TDA, and then they say they're using something like Kikyo or Selestia. And then comes the realization that with bad enough taste for edits, any base can get that bad in texturing/shading/proportions/emissions.

>>449819375
Most likely not the kind of game you enjoy because I loved the combat and weapon switching as well as manual reload.

>>449820205
whats wrong with that? he seems like a cool guy

>>449819803
There shouldn't be a skill to switching between weapons in the first place. In flat to pick a pistol you hit one button. Here to pick a pistol I have to move my arm up the exact amount, don't move it too far up or you'll pick an entirely different weapon. Oh and those two weapons have completely different reloads, so make sure you don't pick the wrong one

>>449820205
i think its so funny that the most popular furry avatar in existence isnt even a real animal

>>449803973 (OP)
Postan using Virtual Desktop on Quest 3.
8K VR porn looks really fuckin good on tis thing, lads.

>>449820205
How does that shit work anyway? Is the avatar shown when hidden random?
I wouldn't want to get spotted in a furry avatar for even a moment.

>>449820205
I don't understand how anyone can find standing around a bunch of grey robots enjoyable

Alright motherfuckers it is that time of the week again! We are stepping our way into the spooky month at what feels like a slow painful creep. New events are being scheduled, some are being bubbled up in the primordial soup of people idea mashing, wonderful time. Only request is what the FUCK do we do November besides support blacks Friday and buy new hardware.

Phasmophobia will actually be played this Friday as last Friday was a stayed up too late can't get into gaming past 6pm vibe.

Dm *or reply* to the shop man if you would like to know why we are in the good old days after 9/11 again.

>>449820349
I just recently played both HL1 in flat and HL Alyx in VR and loved both. I think people just have very low standards when it comes to VR FPS games. If it works it's a masterpiece apparently.

>>449820594
you show avatar on people youre talking to..not that hard bro. 99% of people play this way

>>449820736
I repeat idk how 99% of people can play like that

>>449820557
random fallback or designated fallback if you've chosen one

>>449820823
you can blame the 99% of people uploading avatars for this behavior
VRC devs enabled this :)

>>449820919
Explain I am not sure what you mean

are there any avatars that use non-standard FBT tracking? i keep getting cucked by the 'humanoid' requirement on unity, but im looking for avatars that have use the trackers to track things that ARENT the typical legs/waist.

Is skyrim VR any good with mods that add more VR support to it for controls?

>>449820993
game runs like shit on highest-end hardware available because people can upload the shittiest avatars imagineable after booth/gumroad assets have gravitated towards unity-only workflows that allow the most npc-tier of vrchatters to upload avatars with 500 toggles, expressions, outfits, etc.
these users never touch blender and thus don't even have the slightest inkling as to how to optimize their assets manually, like you would for actual production use in a game that needs to run well (especially so for vr)
sure, you can hide via safety settings but this just encourages the bad asset creation pipeline even further because everyone just goes "I only show the few I care about and everyone else does the same!" so everyone sits in their own little bubble of shitty avatars that run like ass
if you dare try to show everyone at all times for immersion have fun with the worst cpu and gpu framtimes you've ever seen, even on a top-spec rig
its all so tiresome

>>449820457
>can't even grab a weapon from alyx style menu
>reloading is too hard

GODDAMN MAN

reminder that if your avatar isnt PC rank medium or better, youre getting blocked by everyone in publics.

keep your 'very poor' shitter avatars for privates

>>449821141
Yes. Skyrim VR goes from being dogshit to one of the best VR games with mods. Modders basically did Bethesda's job for them and ported it into being a real VR game and not a gimmick.

>>449820205
Maybe it's time to let go of your prejudice

>>449816807
I tested the kuject link cable yesterday and was power negative. I'd guess from full on regular link I'd get somewhere roughly between 4-6 hours of continuous usage. Burned down similar speed on air link, I'd guess ballpark 1% per 5-10 minutes though it started dropping much faster the lower it went.

>>449821141
I like it. Being able to grab and mess with every prop in the game is really immersive. Having proper holsters is much more fun than swapping weapons flat. You can physically manhandle NPCs too, so shoving enemies is a valid tactic and sex is more immersive. It's probably the best VR RPG.

>>449821520
>publics

>>449821605
Would you recommend it for a first time playing Skyrim?

>>449821645
im still shocked that theres no skyrimVR foot tracking that isnt complete trash. seems like an obvious thing to mod in

>>449821645
WHAT THE FUCK EXPLAIN HOW TO ACHEIVE THAT PICTURE RIGHT NOW

>>449821390
I'd recommend hide by avatar file size only. It's a pretty good catch all for only the worst offenders. Most very poors are only like cuz they have 1 too many physbones or 72001 tris.

>>449821669
Kind of. In a modded VR playthrough the standard intro doesn't work so you'll have no idea why Ulfric recognizes you or why your character is reporting dragon attacks. Otherwise it's superior to playing the game flat.

>>449821803
That's one of the /tesg/ followers (Get her from the /tesg/ website) and CBBE. You need Planck to grab NPCs and Sexlab+it's VR patch to fuck them.

I fucking hate the thick ass cable on my Vive Pro 2. It is so thick and heavy and always gets in the way. God I wish I had a wireless headset.

>>449822000
my go-to is:
>25mb limit
>hide all poor and worse automatically (would prefer medium)
but then everyone becomes random fallback avatars that look dumb as hell half the time

>>449822000
most very poors are very poor because they need to use 4k textures to prevent their detailed abs, tattoos, etc from getting blown out

>>449821774
The guy who made VRIK vanished and it's closed source hence why it's fairly unfinished. Steeds of Ultima goes back in and makes mounted combat good, and VRIK tweaks helps too, but foot tracking is probably out of the question unless someone reverse engineers VRIK or the original author shows up again. You can 'track' NPCs feefees at least.

>>449822284
you can literally get wireless for the Vive Pro 2 bro

>>449822303
Which the file size limit catches cuz none of them crunch compress because they are retarded
>>449822286
sounds horrendous anon

Do I even need glasses for VR if my eyes are only slightly fucked up?

>>449822635
>sounds horrendous anon
most people's avatars are horrendous

>>449822375
Holy shit I didn't even consider that possible for a moment.
>$349.00 clap
They keep milking me dry....

>>449822767
>They keep milking me dry....
that's what HTC specializes in doing

>>449822286
I just hide 100mb+ which catches a decent amount of avatars that are really terrible with textures

>>449811182
it's the way the pixels are arranged. quest pro has the same issue.
honestly the quest 2 was pretty impressive at making SDE barely visible

>>449822767
buy from amazon warehouse, they sell for like 180-250 all the time for 'used-very good' (aka, returns)

if you want ill sell you mine for 200$..used it for like 10 minutes before getting my quest pro

>>449822816
the moment I ever unhide someone and see the loading bar say 100mb I feel instant regret

any vrchat lobbies for palestinians?

Anyone tried out the new Samba De Amigo VR version and if so, how is it? I can't find footage of the VR version(Only the Switch one which launched earlier) despite it supposedly being a launch title for the Quest 3.

>>449822643
twink pd wtf lol

>>449818936
it's like switching from 60hz to 144hz
you didn't care before but afterwards you can't go back

>>449820205
sir you have played yourself

>>449822824
Very interesting example photo, thanks anon. Almost looks like the Quest 2 is utilizing an atrocious form of anti-aliasing by overexposing whites in images that smooths the image together. In headset though it looks fine.

>>449822363
Such a waste of .esp to put sexlabs and all that trash in the game imo.
I'm ok with a bit of eye candy but I don't see the point of the rest. I'm already hitting close to the limit of plugins it blows.

>>449805548
been thinking of joining these lately. how do you install these mods and DLC? I've always wondered why you guys never include a install for legitretards in these posts. Aren't you guys kinda struggling with player numbers for a long time now?

>>449822856
Very generous of you anon but I'll have to pass. I'll look keep an eye out for price reductions tho!

>>449823498
Sex and a good game don't have to be mutually exclusive

>mfw i find out i can sync my lovesense buttplug with skyrimVR
>combine this with the rape mod
>my rectum gets vibrated when my character gets raped

neat

>>449823498
learn to merge

>>449823982
wrong tab, sis

>>449823112
shouldn't you be hiding in a bunker?

how come there are no hairy female avatars...every avatar i see is completely bald from waist down. whats up with that?

>>449822767
It also only supports 1800x1800@90 maximum resolution...

>>449820205
if you find a furry cool you are already halfway in you closet dumbass

I miss Contractors with the boys

>>449824858
there's an asset on booth that gives pubes and hairy armpits. both are pretty tame and just lots of strands of hair instead of actual pushed but you can manipulate the shapekeys to make it look more bushier than it is.

>>449821076
Not possible since VRC doesn't support tracking for non-humanoid rigs. The best you can do is make a puppet using empty humanoid rig as driver and lots of constraints or FinalIK.

>>449824858
vrfg is down the hall anon

>>449823982
Where? Last I checked the only toy support for sexlab was for LE, not VR or SE.

>>449824858
hair is very high poly or is just a tatoo

>>449819375
Switching weapons wasn't the absolute cleanest since you had things being different distances but in the same radial direction once you get things like the revolver, pulse rifle, or whatever else you'd normally pick with double tapping the key in HL2, but complaining about reloading is unironically a skill issue. The only one that was even mildly finicky was the revolver since you had to tip the spent cartridges out and then flick the cylinder shut once you'd put in new rounds, but even that wasn't a huge deal since revolver ammo was scarce enough that you wouldn't be emptying multiple clips per fight. It even has an annoying little popup that reminds you to reload or charge the weapon if you haven't, and the individual reload mechanics are all normal firearm operations that you shouldn't have to think about if you're at all familiar with guns, except again for the pulse rifle which you didn't even have to rack the bolt on.

I do take by my statement about everything else feeling good since the crossbow was jank and unusuable as more then a singleshot shotgun since they didn't apply any smoothing on the non-dominant hand so it would jitter as your hand does which makes an unsupported shot at 100 yards as difficult as doing it with a pistol IRL since you don't have the ability to brace yourself into the stock to make it more of a skeletal thing then a muscle thing, but that was such a non-issue I that I didn't think about it once I realized I just wasn't going to use it and I finished the game + DLCs fine.

skyrimVR is that weird case where desktop looks and feels better than VR in sex mods

>>449821390
It makes me laugh when I see people saying then and then I can show the nearest 15 avatars with no safety settings on a 1080 while maintaining a silky smooth 45 to 60 FPS even in public worlds full of the most unoptimized niggers since I'm on an Index and the base resolution is so low.

>>449827210
45 fps absolutely destroys FBT tracking, you need to maintain 90-120 for FBT to not look like a jittery mess to other people.

>>449827396
Who gives a shit about other people?

>>449827396
is this some kind of broscience?

>>449827396
wrong

>>449827502
>>449827538

low fps = high frametime = bad FBT
your frametime is entirely dependent on whether you can keep up with the refresh rate of your device

this is like 2017 shit guys cmon

>>449827703
>this is like 2017 shit
So massively outdated then, got it.

>>449827792
>outdated
>using the exact same tracking system

???

>>449827210
>silky smooth 45 to 60 FPS

>>449827935
Maybe terd munchers like you are using the same hardware from 2017 but most people aren't.

we've got a live one today, boys

>>449828290
my friend, what new tracking technology are using to do FBT?

>>449828669
I'm not giving you any personal details.

>>449827703
?????
Where did you get this information?

>>449823505
Installing mods is as easy as dragging and dropping the zip file onto the Content Manager window if you have that installed like the OP rentry recommends. You can just unzip and copy stuff manually into the assetto folder if you want though.
You shouldn't need the DLC if you can spare a couple bucks more when buying the game on sale.
If you're having other issues, you can ask here or ask in the Mumble when we get started.

guys it is true that if you fap to your own character you make it more attractive to everyone else, can any /x/ anon confirm

>>449829303
any chance you guys might ever consider not using mega for huge stuff? i can't redl any of the vrg mods now because mega scuffed everything up and dl'd the dlc ferrari zip twice instead of the vrg stuff folder, so now I can't even make it to the thing if I wanted to. Where do I even put pirated dlc stuff? Sorry this is common sense stuff, there's no guide for this kind of thing readily available anywhere.

>>449829775
I can upload a mirror somewhere else in a minute if you need it, Mega is just easiest.
Pirated DLC cars go in content/cars, tracks go in content/tracks, and the unlocker files should go in the root assettocorsa folder.

>>449830843
I'd appreciate it, and thanks for the quick dummy help.

>>449831120
No problem, hopefully this one works
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RDlzbXjhXUKz5fVVJo1BdsuWHwZTWmE3?usp=drive_link

been trying out dungeons of eternity today and it's been a pretty good experience so far, especially for stand-alone only. the setting is a mix of medieval and sci-fi with simple but enjoyable graphics. combat is pretty standard, just flicking the controllers is enough to register hits with pretty solid archery. dungeons are generated frequently with four different flavours to them, exploring them and gathering loot while killing enemies is the main loop. there are a couple different mechanics like needing torches for some sections, which looked good on the qpro but was wishing i had oled for it. at the moment i'd give it a 7/10

Should I get a Quest 3 or Pico 4? Both are available in my country although Pico is about $150 cheaper.

>>449824987
Not sure if it is worth it then. Maybe I could turn down the resolution and see what it looks like.

Is it worth upgrading from Quest 2 to Quest 3?

>>449805152
>power
on the q2, you can run it forever off an apple ipad power brick; when i was still vring rather than just lurking this thread and trying to figure out which standalone i want that's what i would do
xr3 is supposed to be way better for power consumption, so probably still possible

>>449811182
what
how can you not get sde on q2
it was obvious from the first time i used the headset even though i didn't mind it very much

>>449823982
the world needs a nuclear winter now more than anything.

can we get a thread without sinners and trannies

First time VR buyer should I get the quest 3? And what accessories do I need aside from the headset

>>449835691
what are you going to use it for

>>449835910
Games I'm big into sim stuff but I do like shooter/ rhythm games

>>449836073
pcvr?

Honestly quest 3 doesn’t look like it’s that much better than the quest 2 for the price. Might just buy a 2 based on how some of you are reviewing it already

NA anime tonight at 10pm east in vrchat

Lucky Star - 09
K-on - 05
Sora no Woto - 08
Sora no Woto - 09

multibox probably starting on sunday

>>449837096
I remain disappointed, but the increased field of view alone is significant, even if imperfect.
I do want more, but I guess this'll be it for the next year at least.

>>449837096
just get the quest 3. on paper it doesn't look like a huge upgrade, but experience-wise it might be the difference between you getting sick of vr in a couple months or not.

>>449834207
Not until Quest 3 exclusives drop and more games in general get Q3 updates.

>>449837096
You're paying for the lens and resolution upgrade (which are a big deal) and the support that comes with it being a popular quest product.
If you're only have a passing interest in VR then you can get a used Rift S/Quest 1 for sub 100$ and try that before sinking cash into something you don't even know you're gonna like.

https://www.uploadvr.com/quest-3-storage-is-128gb-enough/
>128GB model only has 102GB usable space
Lame.

do i install gogoloco separately if i already have vrcfury in my unity project instance or what
the booth page for it says it's already included in vrcufry

>>449839151
retard.

>>449839718
Wow I love Google cardboard

>>449839718
Is this the new schizophrenia arc? Amateur headset designer? Are you about to lecture me on why throwing random shit in a cardboard box with a rasberry pi is better than an index?

>>449839718
Make a Kickstarter

>>449834654
Maybe starting with a CV1 just permanently set my baseline for recognizing it super low. Also you may not be using the full resolution of the Quest 2 if you don't have the settings to Ultra in VD or the resolution set to 5408x2736 in the Oculus App if using link.

>>449840168
Anon, contain your crippling autism
this is just someone having fun with theorycrafting an ultra-low cost diy headset

>>449840168
it has eye tracking

>>449839718
I love toilet-chan

>>449804426
That post was really useful for me. I'm the guy waiting for the Valve Deckard to come out or get the Bigscreen VR. The lenses on the Quest 2 had a sweet spot that was difficult to get over in the beginning. Would you say the sweet spot on the BS VR is smaller?

>>449827396
Anyways on todays episode of anon will now move the goal posts. This is what it looks like from a 2nd client for your tracking at varying fps.
Same Test from a phones perspective cuz i was retarded the first time: https://files.catbox.moe/5tq2ih.webm
Do the test yourself: https://files.catbox.moe/oe7fb3.rar
>but you didn't do any fast movement
we all know you the same people who complain about pypy so why does that matter
>but the webm isnt showing true fps recorded
ok dm for the raw footage then, but we know you aint gonna do that cuz u just wanna complain
>but i don't know how to do the test myself
open the creator companion and create and sdk3 world
add udon sharp to it and vrc quick launcher so u can launch a client with vr and one with not

>>449840681
Never tried a Quest 2 so I can't say whether the sweet spot on the Bigscreen is smaller than it or not.

>>449839718
someone post it

>>449835202
And if I were the last man on Earth
You’d still be better off alone
Because nuclear winter ain’t nothing
Compared to another winter in this homeeeeeeeeee

>>449839718
you forgot the lenses bro

>>449837571
it's settled

Best headset for porn?

SORRY IM LATE
Multibox will commence on the following dates( i think i got them right this time)
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:: Fall 2023 Anime Multibox Part 1 | Sunday, October 15th, 10PM-12PM ET ::
:: Fall 2023 Anime Multibox Part 2 | Wednesday, October 18th, 10PM-12PM ET ::

>wtf is this
Watching every first episode of each new anime this season, 6 at a time. Brought to you by NA animu club. Discussions will be had after each round at the round table.
https://streamable.com/6bbkzb

>but why
In order to find the best, worst, or most interesting anime of the season.

>sounds retarded
fukc u

>How does one partake in this shitshow?
Link will be posted in the tread before the starting.

>What actually are you showing?(subject to change)
WIP

Live Chart:
https://www.livechart.me/fall-2023/all

>what about other time zones?
Whoever does it will post of their own accord. NA will only have these days for multibox.

>CVR or VRC
VRC

>FOR NEWFRIENDS
make/bring your 1by1by1 so that you can judge and get judged on your shitty taste in chinese cartoons.
https://files.catbox.moe/vpwvy3.unitypackage

>>449804426
I want this headset so goddamn badly but I don't have access to an iphone and I don't want to pay $1.5k only to wait until q1 2024. God fucking dammit. Zucc won again.

>>449845237
As another anon said go to an apple store and use one of their demo phones

>>449845194
>Made a cube last multibox to get roasted
>everyone said I had good taste instead
LIAR!

>>449845420
(you) have shit taste

>open youtube
>search for vr headset reviews
>bombarded with dozens of sponsored reviews
>bizarre focus on graphics comparisons (quest 3 vs quest 2 graphics side-by-side videos)
>nothing about comfort, immersion, black levels, etc.
Is this really what normies care about? Fucking graphics comparisons?

>>449845508
Thank you

>>449845309
Sure but I'm an impatient son of a bitch. If I order NOW I probably won't see the headset until like April 2024, bet. If there's evidence I'm wrong then I will return my Quest 3 (which is coming tomorrow) and buy the beyond instead.

>>449845528
I mean to be fair anon the difference between quest 2 and 3 graphics seem actually significant. The ability to do 1 (one) whole dynamic shadow is pretty big.

>>449845528
They're called goyim for a reason

>>449845747
Who the fuck cares about GRAPHICS when using VR? It's too blurry to see graphics anyway. We've always known high FOV, refresh rate, good tracking, etc. are the only factors to VR immersion, as well as things like comfort, but normies are treating these headsets like they're fucking console releases where the point of upgrading is graphics. That wasn't even the point of creating a new headset.

>>449845880
You still playing on a cv1 anon? Replayed through alyx on the index and was fucking amazed how much more immersive it was. Now if only it was oled....

>>449845528
Honestly lense quality is about 70% of what I'd buy a headset for and software quality related to performance would be most of the other 30%. I've never really cared much about black levels and I feel like the lense quality/layout is probably the most important part for immersion for me. Similarly comfort is realistically terrible on most headsets stock until you dump in things like aftermarket face plates/counter weights/straps/ect.

>>449845237
You can just order now and cancel to get your money back if you can't get your face scanned or like your Quest 3 too much.

>>449845880
>blurry
this man has been destroyed by fresmemes
you have my pity

>>449846059
>You still playing on a cv1 anon?
Actually an OG vive. Not sure if that matters.

>>449803973 (OP)
OK FOLKS.
Please sign up for being one of the halloween house owners this upcoming halloween event.
Only need 10 house owners per timezone please buy a house!

We have 20 slots total.
10 slots for NA
10 slots for EU

https://forms.gle/VyVVFtycwzL7jF3x5
https://forms.gle/VyVVFtycwzL7jF3x5

Aight current working model is:
1) host opens map
2) people filter in

[DO GROUP PHOTO 1 Here]

(Trick or Treating)
3) get the house owners to their respective homes
4) trick or treating starts as a pre-game for 30-45 minutes
5) everyone uses the gathered candies to kill a giant undead pumpkin chicken that then reveals the proper stage-judge system we use yearly

(Costume Contest)
6) halloween judging event starts
7) should be done in an hr or so
8) score system winners on podium and group photo

[DO GROUP PHOTO 2 Here]

Whole event is then done in 2 to 2.5 hrs max

Event is on October 28

>>449846460
Oh anon that's what I originally used for alyx actually....

>>449846060
>I've never really cared much about black levels
Never played in dark scenes with oled/microled?

>>449803973 (OP)
IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR ONCE AGAIN!


come sign up for secret santa 2023
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Deadline for Signups November 1

>>449804426
>>449845309
>>449846174
Any word on when international orders are coming? All the info I can find is for the US. If I'm in canada and I order today will I be waiting longer than q4 2024?

>>449804426
Also I saw this guy's video review after I wrote this up and he makes good points about the face cushion and how weird and different it feels compared to other headsets faceplates and how you might not like it your first session or find it kinda difficult to fit right. I'm also going to buy the accessory he recommends to make the strap setup more comfortable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2sVXk9KYtM

>>449846776
Anon I...

>>449809413
Anon anyone can add things on the OP.
I promise I'll add your events if I manage to make the next OP and remember it geeze.
It's just annoying if you whine about it

Events are all about collaboration and mutual enjoyment

>>449846776
>Will I be waiting longer than Q4 2024?
No it shouldn't take that long. This is from their most recent blogpost

So I guess I should wait for the Somnium VR1
The bigscreen beyond looks uncomfortable

>>449846789
hm i might try that soft strap addon but i wonder how much of the strap stuff comes from him being bald as fuck

>>449847295
>The bigscreen beyond looks uncomfortable
lol
lmao

>>449847295
>fitted specifically for your face
>smallest headset on the market
W-what?

>>449847295
Can't wait!
Truly the future of VR!

>>449812504
Yeah thats me. DCS runs nice so I'm happy.

>>449847295
here's your alternative, bro

>>449847945
I want to mine them for rock and stone

>>449846059
Is the CV1 really that blurry compared to an index? CV1 is the only headset I've used, and I never had a single problem with the resolution in a game. I thought Alyx looked fucking insane on CV1. If CV1 > Index is big CV1 > Quest 3 must be astronomical

>>449849642
CV1 is ancient compared to the index. It's barely out of beta

>>449849642
it was a jump but not MASSIVE, and ofc we lost OLED but the swap from pentile to a standard subpixel layout did help with SDE/perceived desnity

>>449849642
Trust me TRUST ME. When you do finally experience its like you are looking at like idk even know how to describe it. Cross your eyes then uncross them and that's how big of a difference it it is in visual fidelity.

>>449849925
Is this even right? CV1 was marketed as 110 FOV

>>449850181
the index was definitely an increase in fov from cv1/og vive days
it was kind of one of the major selling points but ofc data on this website is subject to whoever manages it and fov is always a very user-specific measurement due to face shape, ipd, etc.
some values are just missing outright ofc for hmds so idk where they get this shit from

>>449849642
Rift is dim and has a highly visible black grid over everything. It's much worse than Index and anyone who says otherwise is blind.

>>449850181
It's not possible to measure headset FOV objectively because it depends on how far away from your eyes the lenses sit. Rift renders something like 105 degrees (according to Unity), and I could see about 100 degrees when my facepad was completely worn out.

>>449850678
that reminds me that I did use a really thin facial interface from vrcover with mine that I eventually used on the quest when I tried that for the couple sessions I bothered with it

>>449846609
I simply don't care for the blacks

>>449839718
you forgot lenses

>>449850181
diagonal vs horizontal

Open up Blender, buy or steal some assets from Booth, rip some assets from games, it's time to get world building. you have until December and the theme is winter, anything even vaguely winter themed is fine.
All skill levels are welcome. If you want to build everything from scratch, that's great, but if you want to use booth prefabs and just learn the basics, then that's okay too. There will be a hub world with portals so anyone can visit the worlds at any time but for the event itself the host will have pre-favourited the worlds so they can drop friends+ portals
You can submit your world by sending your world ID to [email protected], vrbuild on Discord or post it in the thread

Useful stuff (send me more things to put in here) https://rentry.org/vrbuild

>>449805548
Is there a particular reason you're using an older version of the DDM S2000? Latest is 1.2. I'm assuming everyone else is using the older version too, so it's probably best to leave it at that to avoid a last minute dilemma for whoever wants to use it. Unrelated, but I wish these modding groups would work together more because I've tried like eight versions of the 400Z and they all have something wrong with them. If it's not one thing, it's another... or a ton of things. Very annoying.

>>449849925
>>449850382
Link??
Do they have Quest 3 specs?

>>449851376
>>449851376
https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=-CBHn3rsnf_&h2=0q3goALzg&h3=0jLuwg808-j&h4=mLbW9G7f4

>>449851650
Q3 that wide?

>>449847295
>Somnium VR1
what's the catch?
is it vaporware? is the company retarde...oh
>>449847945

There's a weird after effect I get after using mixed reality. Lasts for a few minutes. Hard to explain.

>>449850813
You can use the n-word.

>>449851934
why didn't you?

>>449851759
Just tested it on Assetto and it was great replacing my index. The index sacrificed stereo overlap for canted displays so you only have the 3D in a narrow FOV. Without depth the perception of speed is reduced.

>>449851934
nooooo

>>449851759
The Tested video mentioned getting the full 110 when right up against the lenses. Still probably relies on ideal head shape as Quest 2 fov would also get much lower with extreme IPDs.

>>449852726
IPD impacted the Q2 because it was using a single screen.

>>449851650
This doesn't account for sub-pixel density, which widens the gap between Rift and Index more than that would imply.

>>449805548
Assetto Corsa starting now, server details are in the previous post if you're interested.
>>449851165
Just didn't realize there was a new one. I'll have to grab it later.

Do AMD GPUs cut it for VR or is RTX only?

>>449853184
I was using an RX 580 just fine until like 2 months ago. Presumably if it's better than that, it'll be fine.

>>449853184
Technically it's ok. But RX 7000 still has bad VR performance, it's so bad there is no performance increase compared to 6000 series, or even worse.

You will get crashes because some random shader in VRChat breaks under AMD pajeet driver, or video player will break.

Sooo, it you're up to it, then yea, big amount of VRAM helps, but you will have weird problems which you wouldn't have on Nvidia.

https://www.uploadvr.com/best-oculus-quest-games/
>just got updated
What do you think of it now?

I just paid for a "brand new" Quest 2 for $120. I'll be very surprised if it actually arrives.

>>449853184
Don't fall for it.

>>449855746
Superhot VR does not belong ranked that high up, but I now want to play Demeo VR even more. I wish my friends would get it together to play games for once.

>>449857353
What would you replace Superhot with in that spot then?

>>449857258
>”brand new”
So a refurb or a new listing on eBay?

>>449857594
Considering the limitation of Quest 2 games and the meta VR concept of Superhot VR perhaps Bonelabs would be a good replacement for it. I just didn't think Superhot VR was much fun because it limited itself compared the original by being a light gun shooter.

>>449857826
>Condition: New
Yep.
>seller (0)
>Joined Sep 2023
Makes this even more fun.

>>449858012
Bonelab used to be in the list but got bumped down by Eye of the Temple and Ghost Signal.

>>449858025
>Know that literally everything about this screams scam
>Buy it anyways
only have yourself to blame

>>449855746
>demeo number one
Shill list. Discarded.

>>449858203
Bonelab doesn't deserve to be even mentioned in any VR discussion

>>449858378
>Shill list
You would have said that regardless of what number one was

>>449858632
>Bonelab doesn't deserve to be even mentioned in any VR discussion
Ah so you haven't played it since it dropped a year ago and assume nothing has changed with it just like h3vr huh. Enjoy being in a non moving herd, sheep boy.

how can i find na hangouts with non-children on the weekdays?

>>449859002
The last patch dropped in November so literally nothing has changed in basically a year and all the devs said is “lol we may have the next beta patch out by the end of the year lmao”

>>449858723
I wouldn't have said anything if resident evil was first.

There is no point wasting time and effort supporting a scam.
You hype it up before the release, pay to fags like shillseeker to shill, get the money from the copies on release and forget about the game.
Bonefags devs did it how many times? Like 4? And it worked every time.

>>449859184
>>449837571

>>449859630
at a watch party meetup you dont really get to meet anybody it's just semi-awkward silence then goodbye at the end

>>449861167
somewhat true, but usually the weekday crowd sticks around after its over for a while, unless it's an especially dead night

I'm about to start up Jackass Forever since I haven't had to opportunity to see it before
https://vrch.at/c6ye7r96

>>449837571
https://vrch.at/ctc0q55g

sorry for late start, i forgot to encode until 20 minutes ago

when did it stop being possible to get 4 letter usernames in vrchat?

>>449861167
You can drop in on them around the end, a few people usually world hop afterwards. Usually a good idea to friend a few people to join off of later too.
Not seeing much else going on right now tonight, unfortunately, so I don't think anyone else could really drop a link for you to join off of right now.

>>449819375
Maybe vr games with shooting aren't for you.

>>449853184
Not sure if you're just shitposting... I ran an 8GB RX480 with my CV1 Rift - upgrading my GPU didn't really change anything for me as much as upgrading my CPU and RAM did. I never had issues with AMD's drivers until recent years though. What I learned is, at least when it comes to Assetto, disable everything in the Radeon Software and underclock the GPU to keep temps down, also enabling DXGI and messing with settings in that to optimize it. As for other games, couldn't tell you - haven't really bothered touching anything else in VR for a couple years now. I think Nshitia would be the more hassle-free experience but I don't think it's worth the price, also I don't like them having a monopoly on the GPU market.

When are you retards stop bringing up the ancient shit like CV1 and the original Vive?
They had ~1080p displays for fuck sake.
Anything below 2500x2500 per eye is simply unacceptable in 2023, and you need the top of the line GPU's for that.
It's time to let the old shit rest.

>>449868665
IDGAF, the SDE never bothered me and if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Besides, I don't want another Oculus and the current VR market doesn't interest me. I'll probably get a used Reverb G2 if I absolutely have to, otherwise I'd rather wait for something else to come along.

>>449805548
I didn't get to play for long because I'm a dumb potato re-figuring out wheel and steamvr, but I had fun.

>>449869063
>SDE never bothered me
>I'll probably get a used Reverb G2
Confirmed retard.
Are you having fun aiming with ironsights btw, monkey?
Yeah, I thought so.

>>449869227
I don't care either. Visual crispness doesn't matter at all to me. I have glasses IRL and I don't even bother putting them on 98% of the time.

>>449869227
>Plays FPS games in VR
>Calls me a retard
The immersion is ruined the instant I have to push a joystick to move around, also besides Pavlov and Onward, everything is watered down for normies, so what's the point? Half-Life Alyx has cucked AI, yes there's mods for that but I still don't care and would rather drive or fly, kys faggot.

>>449869413
If you have 0 standards, why are you making recommendations at all and misleading people?
Anything is good enough for you anyway.
Cretins like you is a big reason normalfags think VR sucks.
"Yeah, bro, you don't need a good PC, 1060 will be enough! Don't worry!"
Kill yourself.

>>449869627
>The immersion is ruined
Using the word immersion unironically instantly exposes as a retarded gorilla nigger.

Once again simcucks are proven to be the biggest cretins of vr.
Even skyrimfags can't get close to their retardness.

>>449869180
Should definitely drop by again sometime now that you've got it working

>>449868665
VR has come a long way since I got my first HMD :^)

>>449869791
>Using the word immersion unironically instantly exposes as a retarded gorilla nigger
hes right about immersion thoug

>>449869791
>(You)

>>449870374
Then you are a retarded gorilla nigger who has never read a book in his life too.

>>449855746
Bruh all those games besides walking dead look like pure ass
Wtf do you use this toy for

No refunds :^)
fuck, wrong image

>>449871715

>>449872250
wao shitty company is shitty

>>449872383
No, sir! Meta is the only reason we get vr games these days! Anons always say that!
We all should be grateful to zucc for saving vr!

you're right. It would be immoral to support facebook by purchasing the Q3. But what do I get instead? The index is kind of expensive.. ?

>>449873164
Chinko 4 or keep waiting.

Just wait 6 months for Chinko 5.

can I DIY a vr headset?

What are ideal stretch and squish values for breasts?

>>449873991
an anon might beat you to it >>449839718

>>449873164
They're probably selling the headset at a loss aren't they?
If that's the case couldn't you just buy a Q3 and pirate the games or at least buy them off steam?

>>449852726
The stock facial interface of the Quest1/2 is about equivalent to maxing out the eye relief on the Quest3, so the 110hfov is basically a result of being able to lick the lenses with your eyeballs without buying a third-party thin facial interface.
My aryan skull is probably a near-worst-case scenario, and I'm fairly comfortable at 2/4 eye relief; the thick rims around the lenses stabbing me between the eyebrows being the limiting factor.

Zenni's Lens inserts sit on the inside of the rims, so I'm hopeful that I'll be able to use them without having to increase the eye relief.

>>449874052
oh shit. And I have lenses from a google cardboard, so I'm set!

>>449874231
there's more to it than just the money

>>449876767
>>449874231
If it's true that they are making a loss or breaking even on the hardware, then as far as other ways to extract value from you, you can not buy software from them, and you can, in theory, block the headset from accessing the internet. I've never tried it myself, but I've heard people have successfully done that before (while still being able to stream PC VR over wifi).

>>449877235
>but I've heard people have successfully done that before
Me!
Not possible to do with recent versions of VD though. The canadian gay goblin requires the app to call home once a month.

>>449872250
How is this news ? Hasn’t this been common knowledge for awhile now?

Airlink sucks ass.
VD has a greedy fuck dev who screws over the users.
ALVR are furries.

I'm so tired of this garbage. How hard can it be to make a wireless transmitter which transfers display port data to the headset, so you don't have to deal with all that garbage encodings, increased latency and retarded devs.
Why nafio can't just release a universal unit? Video feed is the only thing which requires a lot of bandwidth, everything else can be just hacked together later.

>>449877946
I follow the vr news closely and I didn't know about it, so it's certainly not the common knowledge.
There were suspicions, but they weren't exposed that openly before.

>>449877567
he changed it from the backlash and now only needs to connect once at startup.

>>449878349
Changed it again?
Backlash forced him to set it once a month, the shills and normalfags on reddit said it's "reasonable" and stopped chimping out.

>>449872250
So they're stealing game ideas, making them with a higher budget and developed more competent devs, AND I get to pirate them guilt free? Based

>>449878867
>making them with a higher budget and developed more competent devs
Unfortunately, that's not happening. They are extremely incompetent themselves, so they are just wasting money and have nothing to show for it.

>>449878867
This happens all the time in mega-corp world; Amazon is infamous for it.
They'll show interest in working with/buying your company and come over to visit. You'll show them around, detail some of your processes, and then they'll go dark on you. 6 months later they launch a competing product.

>>449877567
So I can't keep my Quest blocked from the internet permanently if I want to use Virtual Desktop? Does ALVR at least work as well as VD at this point?

>>449879868
>So I can't keep my Quest blocked from the internet permanently if I want to use Virtual Desktop?
You could before. Now VD needs to call home once a month.
> Does ALVR at least work as well as VD at this point?
Last time I tried it was a year ago. Didn't work that well.
Maybe things changed now.
If it wasn't for Rust, I might have participated in the development myself.

no one online...

>>449880706
I'm still at work for two more hours anon.
Once I get home I can hangout with you until my WoW buddy logs in.

>>449880706
I'm online, I just don't have any friends

>>449858012
I only played a half hour into superhot VR but I got so into it I punched a wall trying to punch a guy in the dick. I ended up returning it cause I sold the headset but It was fun for a bit. I thought the layer of immersion, where instead of time moving when you pressed the w key, you literally moving triggers it was cool, as well as actually aiming and throwing and swinging and punching. Like sure you're not walking around empty office hallways and nondescript sewers anymore but I thought it was a more than fair tradeoff.

deaddest wensday in a while.

Host a real vr game and I will join you.

>>449881786
Sorry I only tend to host stuff myself on fridays and saturdays

People who have both a recent PCVR headset and any quest headset to compare, how noticeable are the artifacting and latency in day to day use? Is there a noticeable performance overhead with the quests?

Unrelated, howcome no one's made a regular PCVR set that was as simple and plug-and-play as the Rift S but more modern?

>>449881786
like what?

>>449882231
>Unrelated, howcome no one's made a regular PCVR set that was as simple and plug-and-play as the Rift S but more modern?
You're talking about the quest 2

>>449882804
>Quest 2
>PCVR
>Quest 2
>Plug and Play, when plugging it in directly kills framerate and performance and otherwise you need 3rd party software and an expensive router to wireless it to pc properly
>Quest 2
>More Modern

>>449882231
wired none
wireless none but only if your router is in the same room and your pc is connected to your router via ethernet, else it's complete garbage

>quest 3 gets 2 dead pixels in the same day on 2nd day of usage

Oof.

>>449883041
>and an expensive router to wireless it to pc properly
Got a tplink router for $50. How is that expensive? The hardest part is going into your network settings to make sure your wireless network is high priority so that it doesn't try to use LAN as a network connection.
The drop in visual fidelity is worth not dealing with the wire. Those things break like they're made out of cardboard.

>>449888795
Man what unluck you have/ Thankfully big companies like meta have good customer support and warranty period. See if you can get it swapped.

>>449870249
When are we going to start pushing FOV? We have enough pixels god damn it. Give me a headset with high FOV that doesn't turn you into a hammerhead shark.

>>449882804
On top of the other obvious reasons that's a retarded response,
>PCVR
>headset that dies while plugged in
iShiggy

>>449889341
50 dollars is expensive for a router when the alternative is "get one free from the ISP".

>>449890346
>>headset that dies while plugged in
Just get a proper quick charging usb port mate

>>449809310
How is it different from modern phones which has a bunch of ugly ass camera layouts. I remember when people thought the iPhone having 3 cameras looking ugly and now everyone is use to that shit.

>>449890346
Headsets are not comfortable enough to wear for 6 hours straight anyway.
If you take breaks, you will never run out of charge.

>>449888795
I remember having to return the Quest 2 like 3 times until I got a proper one.

>>449890368
$50 isn't expensive for high fidelity wireless VR though. Quest 2 + router + Battery strap = hours of wireless VR.

The whining baldy was losing his mind playing Organ Quaters on stream lmao.

>>449890563
But it's not just 50 dollars, you just listed another like 600 dollars.

Poorfags, go read books. VR is not for you.

>>449891503
>$50 headstrap + $50 router = $500?
Are you now including the price of the headset itself despite it being one of the cheapest on the market?

i like to poop with q2

posting from q2 browser

byebye

If you don't have 4090, lower your voice when talking with me.

>>449892368
Copy that, Captain Micro Dick!

>>449891596
VR is cheaper than almost all other forms of current gaming except handheld lmao
The zoomers are getting quests for Christmas cause its cheaper than the ps5

>>449892597
Even if you ignore the mobiletrash, just for $5k you can the best vr has to offer, with most of the money spent on your PC which you can use for other things too.

Does anyone have any good base station spots or tips?
It feels like a silly question, but I lose tracking a lot from my two base stations.
I think just moving to a larger play space might help. I'm not able to put them on any walls so I've just put them up on objects.

>>449890374
Yeah lemme just pick one up from the usb port shop. Retard, I'm not buying a sketchy motherboard with a specific non-standardized 'feature' that may not even solve the problem for the absolute baseline pcvr experience. Facebook should simply design better hardware.
>>449890431
Putting aside comfort being subjective and there being a whole aftermarket around making VR headsets comfortable for extended use, I remember an entire afternoon where me and my cousin just took turns using my rift to paint things in tilt brush. If the thing died 2 hours in, this wouldn't have been nearly as fond a memory.

>>449893767
Leashcuck+poorfag cope.

Does the quest 3 still suffer from the accommodation vergence conflict or do the new lenses help with that? If it's still an issue, is it to the same level as Q2 or a bit better at least?

>>449893767
You can use Air link and plug it into the wall. This is what I do whenever I sleep in VR on my Quest 2.

>>449893874
see you in 2 hours

>Verification not required.

Tried Q3 via cable link with resolution and bitrate cranked up to the max (960mbps) in occulus debug tool in dirt rally and it looked really fucking good and the latency was okay (50ms with h264)
Hopefully one day they can stop being fags and let do DP via USB-C

>>449894051
I have two external batteries, so quest never runs out of charge when used completely wirelessly. The longest session was 11 hours.
Back to your kennel, fido.

>>449892075
You're not including the fucking price of the headset. the 400-500 dollars for the headset AS WELL as the 100 dollars of extra shit means it's not really just an "Easy plug and play"

I was quite hyped for Quest 3 but after seeing this review I have decided to wait for Pico 5 until getting my first VR. Apparently Q3 is worse than Pico 4 if you exclude the mixed reality feature and I'd rather wait until April rather than waste $500 on a product that is going to become obsolete in 6 months.

The review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVznwf0Z9h4

>>449894230
look what they need, etc

>Verification not required.

>>449895675
You are a leashed dog.

>>449895443
>shilling gayass VD
>shilling VRcover
>shilling G2
Opinion discarded.

>>449805548
I had fun, ngl though it's too hot/humid where I live, so I only mess with VR in the winter. Would need to double check my CSP settings for VR since it's been a while as well, I know it's had a lot of optimization since. A bit late but I whipped up a little webm from that session. I don't think there was a whole lot worth recording so this is about all I got out of that. I wish there was a little more communication in the server chat, but I'm guessing you guys are all on mumble and I'm not interested in using it, so fair enough.
>>449869180
I'd be willing to share my G29 settings if that's what you're using, but for some reason beyond my understanding, it doesn't seem like it actually helps anyone. My friends all said, "Woah! This is so much better!" But then proceeded to crash again anyway, so I dunno... maybe Logitech wheels are much more inconsistent than I originally thought.

>>449895443
You're gonna wait a year or more to try VR? Bit weird but you do you

>>449808787
thanks for the pypy, and once again to the bunny for making my life easier, love you

vids:
https://rentry.org/vrgpypy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PO8bIabUdE&list=PLqVTVLsIotSm7QOOIlscvipaszA1dkB97

imagine being terminally online retarded tranny and still being unable to get proper shaders for your avatar

EU anime tonight at 7PM UTC+1 we're finishing off the last few episodes of Haruhi and Haruhi-chan

>>449895675
How many external batteries do you need for your controllers for an 11 hour session?

I hope zuck turns all questfags into immortal chatbots

>>449899491
Soon december 16 for the creme delacreme

>>449900308
The disappearance happens on the 18th

>>449821624
after finally testing it, yea it drains rather slowly. so I might as well send it back and try something else.

>>449901020
Did you do the "Connect power to cable, wait 10s, connect cable to headset, wait 10s, connect cable to pc" thingy

>>449901161
yea, even restarted both pc and quest 3 just in case.

>>449901161
I might try to either get a pcie usb c route or bite the bullet and buy a router for airlink.

>>449899491
I assume I need to add someone as a friend to join this? only been playing vrc a week and haven't joined anything yet

>>449902482
Yes and no. You can add them but it's not required. A map link is usually posted alongside the watch alongs. But it's easier to join if you add them as a friend

>>449902482
A link will be posted, you get in vrchat first and then open the link in a web browser and click the "Invite me" button and you'll get a notification ingame afterwards to join

>>449902657
>>449902842
Alright thanks, I'll hop in through the link later then and add some people when I'm there then

>>449902482
There'll be a link posted at the time or just add Pengwyn
We're on the last 2 episodes though, we should be starting new anime next week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps2wPVtNZ3M

>>449904412
That's fine, I've seen the series a redundant amount of times already. It's more about the social aspect watching it with others and being able to call they're waifus shit

>>449898850
I'm not terminally online.

>>449906578
heh

>>449905860
>I've seen the series a redundant amount of times already
I see you are a based /a/non. I'd like to be your friend as well. I'll ask P your full account name later.

>q3 500gb - $650
>pro controllers - $300
>pro strap - $80
>total: $1030

why the fuck wouldnt i just buy a qpro and get face/eye tracking, better screens, and actually good build quality?

>>449910465
buy pico 4 pro instead

>>449910465
The quest already comes with controllers

>>449908787
stop

>>449911115
It can't be stopped

>>449911108
theyre garbage tho, they cant even track below waist or above head.

>>449911778
Source?

>>449913048
me, i own one

>>449913097
...can i see it?

>>449913251
yeah add me on discord

@yourboijamal

>>449913816
why you say you own it, when you just borrowed it?
that's lying
when are you going to give it back?

>>449910465
A q3 500gb costs $812 here in Sweden :(

Yo wankers
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1154120/Ilysia/
It's out, anyone has played it yet?

anyone use a mod mic with a quest 3? i have problem where it picks up audio from the speaker..so everyone hears themselves echoing. i think using a mod mic will fix it?
i dont want to wear earphones

>>449915152
wear headphones, retard

>>449889542
>Give me a headset with high FOV that doesn't turn you into a hammerhead shark.
the tech isn't there yet, chief
maybe those funky angled pancake optics can do it but I can imagine a lot of warping/distortion being a problem
maybe when we get to the lightfield display era of VR HMDs we'll be set... that or full-dive controlled lucid dreaming instead of an HMD

>>449915507
my headphones dont fit over the strap....so i would have to wear earphones

>>449915589
Which garbage strap did you buy?

>>449893396
up high, angled down

>>449915694
literally the stock strap anon. i have sony xm5 headphones and they the cant fit over the strap to cup my ears.

>>449915041
>early access

>>449915835
Throw away the trash stock strap and buy a normal 3rd party one.

>>449915152
just wait for zucc to uncuck his microphones so he can listen in clearly

>>449911778
Being able to track above your head isn’t worth $300

How much can a face tracking commission cost?

>>449916697
Just go all in and start HRT like a real troon if you even consider that.

>>449916697
depends how good you want it...

>>449916697
im curious as well since im not that great at blendshape editing, especially without bones to manipulate

Going from the rift s to the q3 is fuckin nuts bros. I get better performance and image quality over virtual desktop than I ever did with hardwired pcvr. I pop a bobo battery pack in my pocket and it keeps the thing charged for an extra hour or two. Pianovision is crazy, too. Never going back

>>449917206
why do you lie, pajet

>>449916697
just use a base that has face tracking available on booth

Quest 1 owner here planning to get a Quest 3 as soon as i get a job and an income. How big is the leap exactly in terms of visual fideltity? Will it wow me like the first time i tried VR?

>>449893875
Please respond

>>449918690
Focus on getting a job.

I see VR is still dead. As expected
>>449918951
>getting a job
>deep in stagflation
lol

>>449920302
stagflation only for unskilled labor. skilled labor is still getting callbacks in days.

>>449918460
But I like being an individual

>>449920619
did you custom make your avatars body and face? seems like if you did that you should be able to make face tracking shapes...

if you just bought a model and changed the clothes and textures a bit, you arent an individual anyway...

>>449918076
Where was the lie

>>449815154
Had the same revelation as >>449816257
on this. Can't believe my dumb ass could have had more of my already limited vram by just plugging my headset in. I'd love to sock the guy at Nvidia who decided 8gb on the 3070 was a good idea.

>>449916784
what does HRT have to do with having a more accurate virtual presence?

>>449921246
the same relationship as trenbolone gomad and lifting

>>449816945
Judging by your posts I think your problem is that you're dogshit at video games. Have you ever considered that?

>>449821141
With proper mods its a dream VR fantasy RPG. The only caveat is that you have to deal with Skyrim modding.

I can't imagine what it's like to be a picocel right now. It's bad enough to live somewhere where it's possible to purchase a pico, and the q3 mogging can't help

>>449921927
I don't get shot when going to school so I've got that going for me

>>449918690
you'll be going from OLED to LCD so you'll be losing contrast and deep blacks but gain higher res and less SDE

>>449824858
I'd consider it if it heavily improved aesthetic but it just eats up extra resources, isn't worth the time (atleast for me) to apply, and I don't think alot of it looks great on avatars anyways. Maybe someday though.

>>449921414
the relation between steroids, nutrition and exercise is clear
the relationship between HRT and conveying real facial expressions in a virtual environment is not

>>449922418
wrong

>>449922298
what extra resources is a pube texture using up...?

>>449922802
explain

>>449911115
You can't stop him. He's too stupid to stop.

>>449922907
You can only hold so many eggs anon

>>449923142
you have to eat all of the eggs

>>449918690
The only bad thing going from Quest1 is that you're giving up true blacks, and good colors I guess. You will miss those as soon as you're anywhere dark.

Clarity and lack of SDE will blow your mind, an absolutely world of difference. Remember that you don't necessarily even need to render the game at a higher resolution to benefit from this, but things can look even better if you do.
Difference in FOV isn't quite on the same mind-blowing level, but it is a very comfy increase, even with the vignetting. Going from looking through a pair of toilet paper rolls to looking through a wide pair of glasses. Probably my main reason for keeping the Q3.
going from 72hz to 120hz ( or hell, even 90hz ) will be another significant experience; at 72hz nothing is ever really smooth. VD's reprojection works really well at 120hz too, if your system can't handle it natively. 120hz makes the microstutters you get when streaming basically unnoticeable.

does /vg/ have a halloween vrchat party? just found out ill be alone on halloween ;..;

>>449859307
>>449859625
It's concerning that they still haven't fucking released the Marrow SDK when its been so fucking long.

>>449847002
>It's just annoying if you whine about it
Nah fuck off. White Elephant and the winter map event have been advertised for weeks now and yet your events are the only ones ever included in the OP.

>>449923525
Yup, every year.

>>449923525
yah on the 28th, look for world join links here in the evening.

>>449920870
Meh, I'll try doing it myself. Besides, I need to get a new CPU + Mobo + RAM before getting a Quest Pro.

>>449899580
Quest controllers honestly last a surprisingly long time and when they do run out of battery I can just pop in a fresh pair of rechargeable AAs for an instant full charge. Kinda makes me wish my knuckles did the same now.

>>449898850
Pls recommend good shaders anon

I keep seeing this shit shilled exclusively by furries. Is this just NEOS 2.0?

>>449925124
toon lite
standard lite

using any other shader gets blocked by 99% of players so why bother

>>449925521
its literally neos but without the cryptobro

>>449925630
But that still means its filled exclusively with furniggers

>>449925784
For westerners yeah. JP community is Booth-only.

>>449925521
it's furfag shit being pushed by the government as usual

>>449925784
vrc is filled with furries too

>>449926028
you see theres two problems with that
1) gooks cant speak english
2) theyre furenablers
and kys and stop trying to promote your furshit game here

>>449926627
Yeah but they're a minority on VRC compared to their presence on NEOS

>>449926780
they literally host an entire convention promoted by the vrc devs
they're everywhere and even on the vrc team itself
you can't get away from the fuckers because vrg is infested with them too

>>449926898
It's possible to play VRC and not have a furry in your lobby. When you play NEOS they're more present than oxygen.

>>449927125
when i played neos years ago I only met a robot guy who taught me how to avatar

>>449926898
i play publics 90% of the time and i almost never see furries, they stick to their own servers i think. to avoid abuse probably.

>>449926898
It's a strange situation the one with furries. I see them everywhere on Twitter but barely ever on VRC (and no, I don't just join Friends+). Like they live in apartheid in their own instances separated from the rest of the community.

>>449927685
>>449927964
they join furry only worlds so they can creep on kids without normies interupting. im not even joking either, make a new user account and pretend to be underaged and within 15 mins of joining a furry world youll be getting hit on by a mouthbreather in an otter or rex avatar.

>>449928794
Do you usually do that? Make new accounts and act underage?
Kinda weird. You a glowie or something?

>>449929236
>Discover glowie
>They're actually on your side and hate furfags too
Based

>>449929236
>Do you usually do that? Make new accounts and act underage?

yeah its fun as hell man, you should try it. AI voice changers let you sound like anyone you want.

>You a glowie or something?

i wish

>>449880215
Damn. If there is no way to keep zucc out I guess that I'll have to look at another headset.

>>449929714
>yeah its fun as hell man, you should try it.
Pretending to be underage sounds like a mental illness, no thanks.

>>449882231
On the Quest Pro artifacts and latency are pretty noticeable. This is with my wifi 6e router in the same room as me and directly attached to my pc.

>>449930008
Getting groomed is great. It's an easy way to score free FBT.

and yet the furries are the only ones with a problem?

Hello friends.
EU Resonite session in 3 hours! (3pm CST/8pm UTC)
We'll be exploring some worlds today. Servers seem to have stabilized so hopefully there'll be no issues with contacts lists or anything.
Hope to see you all there!

>>449859002
Did they extend the campaign to proper length and added proper non tutorial levels? Multiplayer? Is the mod sdk updated to allow more than just creating empty levels and avatars?

Oh wait, there has been a year without updates and community isn't even trying anymore.

Shit game which had a lot of potential if it was finished. Boneworks was miles better

>>449930272
will furfags actually buy you trackers?

>>449930475
are there any performance steps I should be taking?
I really enjoy messing around but just being in game makes me kinda ill and I can immediately tell it's more comfortable when I load into VRC

>>449931045
Unfortunately there isn't much you can do when it comes to getting better frames in Resonite, frames are almost entirely dependent on CPU.
The worlds today are a lot lighter than the particularly heavy worlds we went to during the first couple of sessions, so hopefully your experience won't be as bad

>>449930729
If you spend some time with them then offer to put out yeah.

>>449895939
>I'm guessing you guys are all on mumble
Yeah, hard to type and drive, so everyone just uses Mumble. Was trying to respond when I saw stuff, but new chat messages weren't even consistently popping up for me.

>>449915041
>Mostly Negative
I've been burned by VRMMOs before, there's no chance I'm picking up a poorly reviewed early access one. I have an extra Zenith key from a bundle if you're desperate to try one though.

why does unity just randomly add like 7k tris to my fbx imports and only tells me once im about to upload it. GRRRRRRRRRRR

>>449933074
It almost definitely doesn't. The 10 times I've had this happen it's always always been either not realizing I copied over a dick/glasses/lights without the positioning box deleted with pumpkins or because I was looking at face count instead of tri count in blender.

>>449932771
Man Zenith sounds like a mess. I saw that all my friends played it around launch, but at this point it looks like everyone has since stopped playing it. I'd be up for a key if you posted one though.

>>449933617
i didnt have anything hidden and most certainly didnt add any mesh in unity. its whatever though, only 3k tris over the limit but im too lazy to go back into blender to do it all over again

>>449932771
>>449933776
i played zenith at launch and after the cyber ninja launch but didn't make it to end-game either time. i was thinking of rerolling a cyber ninja to try the new new start

>>449933860
I'm almost positive you've got some random mesh you're unaware in unity then. Every single time this issue has ever come up for me or someone else I know it was some random thing they accidentally copied over with pumpkin. If you're unconvinced re-import a fresh fbx and deselect literally everything but the avatar descriptor and check the upload. If it's still showing the extra tris I'd be baffled.

>>449933776
Sure, here's the key.
>>449934153
I wouldn't mind giving it another shot sometime since it's gotten a few major patches since last time I touched it, but I still don't think they've fixed the problems I had with it at launch.

>>449934838
thx anon. While the mystery meat bulldyke doesn't bode well this game will probably have more than two hours of content so I'll give it a whirl.

>>449933776
Zenith just lacked content and had a bunch of bad design decisions where they clearly copied flat MMO conventions too closely. I don't think a successful VR MMO will resemble most flat MMOs that much.

I still had fun playing it in a group. The grappling hook was a nice addition and resource gathering feels good even if there's not much reason to do it. I'm yet to try since they revamped the skill system but the old one felt far too linear and basic to me.

>>449934960
There's definitely more than a couple hours of content, although I doubt you'll actually see all of it before you get bored.
Just like that other anon, I never made it to the level cap.

>>449934306
i didnt even use pumpkins tools or whatever youre talking about. no additonal meshes selected just the same ones i had in unity. also why does this always take so longgggggg

>>449910465
get pico 4 pro

>>449899491
Starting soon https://vrch.at/9b8ehqkf or join on Pengwyn

>>449910465
Bigger FOV and high resolution+refresh rate on the Quest 3 help if you aren't doing VRChat.

>>449916697
kill yourself

>>449935263
The bad design decisions were a bigger problem than lack of content.
Probably still would've been fun in a group, but I could never get one together.

>>449935949
quest 3 fov is lower than quest pro due to face gasket

>>449934960
That might be one of the worst character designs I have ever seen, holy shit.

>>449936827
This is par the course for western games. If only nips cared enough for VR to make more VR vidya.

>>449859307
Thank God I refunded that mess. Don't know why they decided to tank their reputation like that considering how successful Boneworks was.

>>449936205
Some of them are so easy to fix too. The cooking system is the one that really irks me. It would instantly improve if they just removed the preset recipes and level gating, food items aren't even that good so there's no need for these restrictions. Soft progression would still exist based on ingredient location and it would solve the issue where finding new ingredients feels bad because you can't even use them yet.
Experimentation is inherently more interesting and has far more social potential.

>>449937495
They probably sold enough copies for $40 in proportion to how little it cost them to make that they have no need to give a fuck. If they release another game in seven years time you know that 'influencers' will get all of the Quest kids to fall for it again. It's ironic that they were marketing it as a game that you would fix via mods, while never getting around to releasing the full modding tools.

>>449934838
when i last played skyland was introduced and that seemed to have added a lot more quests and consistent things to do

>>449938239
Skyland is cool. Love the hookshot gimmick to move around.
My main problem with Zenith is the server latency and quality when slapping mobs. It just feels laggy really.

>>449933074
it may just be triangulating some quads you have

>>449938764
tell it to stop doing that

>>449938383
Main problem with VR MMOs is that the usual threadmill themepark routine doesn't translate well into VR when you either have to physically move to do all the boring shit that is just keypress in flat like Zenith or you get decent VR mechanics but then devs won't have time to focus on content and you get Orbus. Only VR MMOs that worked are the spacesim ones like Elite, Vendetta or Infinity Fighter but then that's just leveraging the fact that spacesim in VR doesn't need much more than good cockpit view and basic spatial menu.

>>449939369
I think if you want an MMO in VR there's gotta be a complete overhaul of MMO design for it to work, but right now there's just no big team that gives enough of a fuck about such a small niche

>>449939204
unity works with tris only

>>449940017
The core elements were done, Orbus classes were pretty much perfect, Township Tale got the gathering and crafting done, Zenith got the world and traveling idea right and combat should be more akin to BnS than simple wagglan and then you need good quests that aren't just 100 bear asses but you're right that someone would have to sit down and blend all of that together into one game. I don't think small indies can get that done and big studios don't care about VR.

Is there a retard proof guide to VR VAM or are they still gatekeeping?

>>449942179
https://hub.virtamate.com/resources/how-to-have-vr-sex.14081/

>>449942179
There is a vam thread on /aco/ go there instead this is a video game and tranny simulator thread

What PC VR racing games let me go online with custom liveries and have everyone else see them? I want to have an anime girl on my hood but apparently Assetto Corsa can't do that and GT6 is PS5 only.

>>449944536
Assetto can do that, but you have to set skins on server and then assign drivers to specific cars with specific skins. So, lots of work, and only viable in private races/leagues with weeks of headroom to prepare. rF2 loads custom liveries on the fly and allows you to draw them as you please in photoshop, but this game also isn't big on public races, it's mostly closed communities. If you want a custom livery and not an itasha why would you even want it if not for itasha, iRacing lets you paint your car with their restricted livery elements.

>>449945906
>Assetto can do that, but you have to set skins on server and then assign drivers to specific cars with specific skins.
So I can't just join pubs and have them see my skins. That's what I more or less expected. I'll look at rF2 or see how restrictive iRacing is.

>>449923476
Damn, now i'm really excited. Thanks for the reply.

>>449944536
LFS

This guy sent a friend request and I can't believe how wild his bio is. He uses a femboy avatar too.
Do you guys have anyone like that in your friendlist?

>>449948678
>I lead a joyful life
giwtwm

>>449948678
why would you accept his request he's clearly a troon that hasnt broke yet

>>449935908
Thanks for coming. Same time next thursday and again on friday we'll be watching everything
>>449845194

>>449930475
delayed a bit due to technical issues, I apologize and appreciate your patience

>>449915573
We have the tech if you don't give a shit about the cost, it's just expensive as fucking hell to do. It doesn't matter if it costs 50,000 a unit because nobody's gonna buy it besides enterprise. And most business uses of VR don't care about VR vs clarity.

>>449948678
at least he's honest

>>449852636
you just jogged my memory. It was actually noticeably worse than my Rift in that regard.

>>449950465
And as for Haruhi, we'll be watch the Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya on monday the 18th of December

>>449950623
i mean the tech was barely recently shown off at recent tech conferences in a purely "hey look this is neat but not usable" state

>>449935770
>4/10 Face Tracking Quality

Just got my Quest 3. First impressions:
>clarity is good, feels like I'm looking at a proper screen/display, just through a vr headset
>the passthrough quality is unimpressive, it's nothing like videos and anecdotes, it just feels like quest 1 passthrough but with color and maybe x2 resolution (haven't tried quest 2 before) also I can't read my phone through it, that's a lie
>comfort is fine
Everybody everywhere is shit talking the comfort saying it's abysmal so I was prepared for the worst, but out of the box it's more comfortable than the Quest 1. It just feels lighter than Quest 1 due to the center of gravity and the strap hugs to my face better. And my main headset is an Index. Not sure what's going on with online discourse, either I have a weird head shape or people are pussies. The comfort surprise is good because I accidentally got the Quest 2 elite strap instead of the Quest 3 elite strap and now I have to return that.
As for lenses, I can't tell the difference between pancake and whatever the other thing is, it just feels the same to me, there's still a sweet spot and you have to move it up and down.
7/10 experience, might stick with the Index as my daily driver though.

another one utterly broken by fresmemes
his poor eyes probably have ripples on them from overuse

>>449951998
Bro the passthrough compared to the Quest 2 is like going from 240p to 1080p. You probably set your expectations insanely high if you weren't impressed by it. You 100% can read your phone, sure the text can be a little blurry depending on the color of the background but it's completely readable.

>>449952440
Yeah my last headset with real passthrough was the Quest 1 so I was expecting a huge jump in quality. It's still grainy and slightly laggy, nothing has changed, it just has color now.

>>449948678
I'll never understand this culture of proudly displaying and listing off your mental illnesses in your bio/about me. I thought it was a zoomer thing but if this guy is 40 and still doing it I guess not.

>>449952612
It shouldn't be grainy(unless you're trying it in abysmal lighting) or laggy at all. Mixed reality straight up would not work if it was like you describe.

>>449952740
Millennials like him invented the trope of listing off your disabilities in the myspace era. Zoomers simply adopted it, terminally online millennials have been doing it from the start.

>>449952882
>40
>millenial
fuck me

>>449952781
Yeah I'm using it in my dimly lit apartment, so what? I will NOT turn on my lights or open my windows to use an electronic device. That's unacceptably inconvenient.

>>449951339
Super huge FoV like that isn't even new, even in a form factor which isn't Pimax brick tier, though no BSB size of course. Look up Panasonic's 220 degree prototype from 2017. Even the StarVR is quite small vs Pimax.

>>449930475
Begins now!
Sendca contact request/join on Cyrema

>>449868665
>They had ~1080p displays for fuck sake.
And it was enough.

>Samba de Amigo VR released earlier today
>Not one post talking about it in the thread and barely anyone talking about it outside of here
Is this really such an obscure release? I know it's not an AAA series or anything but I thought it would be a somewhat big VR release, especially since it was revealed during a Meta showcase.

>>449895443
but he says the pico 4 is worse
only that it's not worth paying $500 for the upgrade

>>449953049
retard

>>449952882
No. That was tumblr era, several years after MySpace.

>>449953528
You really think anyone here gives a shit about fucking Samba de Amigo VR? What are you a spic?

>>449953710
My nationality is not relevant to my post.

>>449953860
¡Ay, caramba amigo!

>>449953528
You "hey fellow user" advertisers really don't get what the atomization did. No, nobody wants to use shitter, if you spam screen caps everywhere, people want to use it less. No nobody wants to join your shitcords, no nobody wants to get on your companies communication platform. Mass advertising is dead, congrats the "hey fellow user" advertising that was meant to make advertising cheaper, killed it and there is not really away out of the atomization

>>449954029
uhhhh what

>>449954029
Is this an AI-generated post?

>>449953528
We don't care about standalone games
But...
SEGUIMOS CANTANDO
SEGUIMOS BAILANDO
ES UN DIA DE CARNAVAL
LLENO DE FELICIDAD

>>449953528
People aren't here for VR games, just gay sex. Don't expect to come here and be able to ask about VR games like you would be able to expect with generals about specific genres. Believe me, I've tried.

>>449954138
there is no way to market products to the masses anymore to put it simple, mostly because of freelancing advertisers that pose as "other users"

>>449948910
Is it transmittable?

>>449954234
would you please go back to be ignored on shitter, thanks

>>449953528
>Is this really such an obscure release?
There wasn't really a lot of hype for it, we already have better rhythm games. Doesn't help that it's standalone either.
>it was revealed during a Meta showcase
That isn't really the badge of honor you seem to think it is.

>>449953528
Not on steam, don't care.

>>449953528
Maybe I'll pirate it on Quest 2

>>449954630
>[industry leader advertising platform] showcase
>is mostly ignored
that is what I'm talking about
individuals are completely utterly irrevocable atomized - no mass advertising possible anymore, everything is a niche

>>449955089
or people just don't want to support garden-walled games, or don't use Meta. I know I don't.

>>449955471
No, they simply for the most part don't know they exist due to a complete atomization and the "centralized" advertising" platform of choice of the, shitter, being by its design probably the worst platform for mass advertising

>>449955471
Literally this. I bought a Quest 2 just because of the Resident Evil 4 VR bit. Got my use out of it and then gave it to the kid (Quite some months ago, more than six)

>>449954630
I didn't think it was a badge of honor but I thought it'd mean there were a lot of eyes on it and SEGA/Meta planned to promote it heavily.

>>449955617
sir? this is a maccas drivethru.

>>449955089
Apple doesn't have this problem.
Maybe the issue is less to do overall with the specific form of advertisement you're talking about, and more just to do with Meta fucking sucks with its showcases and its advertisements.

>>449955639
What types of games does your kid play on it?

>>449955767
Just think about it, a potential consumer has to follow the "hey fellow user" advertiser to know something exists - 99.9% of the potential consumers WONT follow an advertiser and rather block that faggot

>>449955820
Apple has that problem too, outside of its cult bubble, nobody is aware of new apple products

>>449951998
Yeah, the comfort is a lot better than the Quest 2. I'm honestly going to stick with the cloth strap since I like the secure fit and the comfort of leaning my head against my chair. The facial padding is nice too.

>>449956052
Bruh fucking EVERYONE was talking about Vision Pro. Not just in the VR community, I mean everyone in general. Normal people that weren't even aware VR was a thing until Apple showed them. It's going to be fucking huge.

>>449955089
their showcase was literally 99% shitty AI
>WOAH MR BEAST AI?!?!?!

>>449953528
>quest exclusive
>niche series
damn I wonder why

>>449953528
>>449953860
Just looked at Spica de Amigo VR. What're you? Some sort of advertiser? Shit looks like it's for babies. I think you need to move along to reddit. It's wholesome big chungus 300 in there, just for you. They love baby shit over there I think

>>449956052
>outside of its cult bubble, nobody is aware of new apple products
Bullshit. I don't care about Apple but whenever their big events happen my newsfeed is just non-stop "APPLE EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE ISHIT TOILET AT THE APPLECON EVENT" and everyone and their mother hears about it.

>>449956228
cause fucking tech journos have been hyping it up for years
turns out its a shitty waste of metal and R&D that costs too much and will end up doing less than a quest 3 by the time it comes out

>>449956332
The exclusivity sucks but Samba De Amigo as a series is based. You're probably too young to remember it on the Wii but it was a ton of fun.

>>449955836
Good question, no idea. Sure isn't Resi 4 though which is sad

>>449952740
im guessing people to it do scare away normalfags
pretty smart actually

>>449956529
I'm 27, I was busy playing Resi 4 on the Wii. I did play Boom Blox though

>>449955646
There's already tons of VR rhytm games. Samba de Amigo was fun but making it VR doesn't really change anything about the controls since it was always "shake two controllers" deal, maracas, wiimotes or VR controllers - it makes no practical difference for the gameplay. It's also not first time Sega is porting its older rhytm game to VR and Space Channel VR was insult to the Dreamcast games.

>>449923476
Don’t a lot of quest games run at 72hz anyway even on Q2?
I remember seeing a bunch of Q3 upgrade patch notes going “now the game runs at 90hz”.

>>449956746
I don't understand the appeal of rhythm games outside of an arcade setting with your gf to make some memories

> Verification not le required

>>449956904
Tell me you're white without telling me you're white.

>>449956228
What is Vision Pro? I have no idea, I assume apple is now as well in VR - let me guess $1500 and its worse than a HTC vive
>>449956360
>my newsfeed
you are a minority living in a bubble

>>449957265
So true. God damn it feels good

>>449957342
>What is Vision Pro? I have no idea
>you are a minority living in a bubble

>>449956746
It's not a port of the old version though, it's a new game that released last month on consoles and today on Quest.

Can I use rookie to archive my pirated games and their saves onto the PC when I want to free up space on my Quest?

I watch this guy's videos exclusively to go to the comments and sort by new, there's always hundreds of confused boomers malding over the fact that he's wearing a mask and posting angry comments about it, it's so funny

>>449957537
I'm sure that 99.9% of all potential customers outside of the grooming cult bubbles, who, looking at the entire potential customer base, have no idea what a Vision pro is

>>449957620
Was that new version any good?

>What is this "iPhone" you speak of?

>>449957771
What is with the mask though? He shows his face so it's not to hide it or anything.

>>449957952
Where is apple with its Iphone grift, version 8, 15? I have no idea

>>449958005
I guess he’s self-conscious about his teeth?

>>449958005
He exclusively hides the bottom half of his face, it's an aesthetic and a basic aid to protect his privacy

>>449957771
>big "hey fellow user" advertisers get 700K subs
>with 10% views
>majority bots
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
the absolute state of "mass" advertising, and there are companies paying those losers

>>449957771
>gets sent a free quest 3
>his review makes it sound terrible
>ends it with a 2 minute speech about how it's amazing and great

>>449957946
It has a 71 on Metacritic but an 8.3 user score. So... maybe?

>>449958305
>wtf why doesnt a video that came out 3 hours ago from a guy with 700k subs have 700k views already

>>449951998
I'm convinced that most of the comfortfags are actually just autistic. Same with the guys who talk about mura and binocular effect. No one else would think that much about it