/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1534

>>460225862 (Cross-thread)
Didn't some other group already do this

I need new prescription lenses for my headset, do I
>buy new ones for my Quest 2?
>buy a Quest 3/Pico 4 and buy lenses for that?
>give up on VR because I haven't actually touched my headset for about a year?

>>460258671
I was in your boat. I ended up going for the Quest 3 because even if I barely use VR I love the technology and it's my """guilty pleasure""" to spend money on.
Honestly, it's such a great upgrade, if you can afford it I'd say go for the Q3.
If you decide against buying the Q3 I would advise not to buy the new lenses for your Q2 either and just wait for a newer cooler headset.

When will valve release their next headset im tired of my dinosaur of a vive

>>460256692 (OP)
>>460258851
Surprised this finally came out and works so well. This is why vorpx wishes it were. This could be a renaissance for vr modding because most native vr games suck as games

>>460258982
Honestly 'don't buy anything and wait' seems to be the best option atm.

>>460256692 (OP)
I wish Luke Ross's mods had this level of control and flexibility

>>460259453
Nah, VR is great

>>460259453
It depends on how long you're willing to wait too. The Q3 will probably continue being the uncontested best headset until we get mass microLED production. So you will be waiting on screen tech mostly. If you think that's too far away still then buy them, if you think you can wait until it becomes affordable then wait.

How's the Quest 3 standalone? My dog water pc can run VRchat sorta but definitely not VR capable, not even remotely.

>>460258982
>>460259453
>just wait
People will post things like this until the day of societal collapse. There will always be better tech around the corner. Unless you want something very specific, just bite the bullet.

>>460260880
graphics and scripting are nerfed to hell
>>460259092
tmwttp

>>460255594
too late
i saw it and i liked it

Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 reminder, we're currently running H3 RWD in Monaco.
Event ends on next Monday (1/8). This one is going to be rough, so definitely make sure to practice. You've still got some time.
Club link is in the OP rentry if you need it.

Also, the game is on sale right now if you're interested. Game of the Year edition is worth getting for the DLC.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/690790/DiRT_Rally_20/

>>460262125

Showing the first two episodes of the Area 88 OVA tonight at 10PM EST (a little over 11 hours from now) in place of the usual NA anime movie, will do the rest next week.
I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

>>460260880
I've seen it compared to flatscreen gaming on a gtx 1060 quality wise. So it's getting there. Not like most games make use of that power though. Also it's capped by default, you need to sideload some shit to "overlock" it (it's more like unlocking capped power because of battery concerns)

i'm looking to buy a used VR headset with a budget of 200€. mainly for simulators (flying and racing) with maybe a bit of vrchat/beatsaber. currently considering the rift s (100-130€) and the quest 2 (150-200€). any thoughts or opinions?
also how bad is the meta account shit in practice? can i just factory reset and make a new account if i get banned for some reason?

Is 4070 enough for VR for at least 3-5 years? I don't want to buy it and then the next gen games run like shit in a year

>>460264179
Used quest 2 is the better one for you to get desu

>>460264238
You want at least 16GB VRAM, but 12 does in a pinch

>>460264345
What's the difference?

>>460264179
you wont even realize you have a meta account, its like a phone.

>>460264238
Maybe the upcoming super variants will have a vram configuration that isn't completely retarded

How do I defend against slaps in Creed?

>>460264687
play thrill of the fight instead

>>460264435
big instances will use often more than 12GB, but you can limit peoples avatars so its not as big of a concern

>>460264498
only the 4070 Ti Super will have more VRAM

>>460264767
but that’s not online

>>460256692 (OP)
anyone know which hair this is

>>460260270
>uncontested best headset
rofl
lmao

>>460260220
the guy is a fucking hack! he uses the screan shutting method where the canera alternates between eyes every other frame making shit blury when moving. He makes no attempt at motion controls.
On top of this it's Patrion pay walled.

Anyone injected into System Shock remake yet? Been waiting for UEVR to play it

>>460256692 (OP)
FUCK! please tell me the original Bioshock works!

>>460267485
No. Bioshock is an Unreal Engine 3 game and UEVR only works with 4 (actually 4.8 and newer) and 5

>>460266962
https://youtu.be/_V8NH2Uyv34?si=tlwjr37StDrTO70S

>>460232629 (Cross-thread)
I don't know, man.
This whole "branding" of stuff is annoying to me. But so is the vast majority of /vrg/ nowadays.
I guess this year will be the year where I just fuck off for good.

>>460267642
And annoyingly the remaster they've made isn't UE4 either. Bioshocks and Dishonoreds are my most wanted VR games

>>460266089
i would like to know too

>>460268415
>>460268365
>>460267642
So nothing comfy can be played huh

>>460260270
>>460261559
I'm >>460258671 so it's less that I'm waiting for a better headset and more that I'm waiting for my desire to play VR to come back, there's no point in new lenses or a new headset if I'm not playing VR.

>>460265142
>needing more vram for trannychat
So 12gb is perfectly fine for actual VR games?

>>460269760
Kinda; high resolutions will eat VRAM like crazy even in non tranny games

>>460266729
It currently is. Not even close, too.

>>460269361
Check the spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZcjCQwzPOltaRZnpYU5_HPihEDareZq_0Ww1DZQ4USw/htmlview#
Dragon Quest IX is supercomfy but I don't think it gains anything from being played in VR.

>>460269609
Did you consider that blindness might be the reason you lost interest?

>>460269760
Yes, just barely, without future proofing, but not for DCS or new higher resolution hmds (if you don't want to downsample).

>>460270260
IX or XI? Because I would love to play IX but I can't see how you would play a nintendo DS game

>>460270260
Yeah I don't see a single game I would play. Sad. I was expecting at least one. Maybe We Happy Few

>>460271584
XI, my mistake

>>460271649
Had to be. Just wishful thinking on my part.

>>460271790
Some emulators have VR support but so far no one has tried to add it to Desmume or MelonDS.

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Search and Destroy!
At 1900 UTC
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

Password is 2939
Headpat people when you join anyway
Maps are on mod.io now! The easiest way to download them will be let the game download them.

Getting anything this sale after the UEVR release?

do people actually play Mahjong in VRC?

>>460273445
yeah, i kinda stopped doing anything else

>>460273445
The mahjong is a prelude for gay sex. Sometimes they don't even wait.

Is there any decent poker prefabs?

>>460274350
kek

>>460274350
No tranny, furry or nip plays poker so no

>>460273858
true only in Tilegun instances. NA had a Purge a while ago.

>>460278068
Never heard of it

>>460260270
I don't think higher resolutions are as important, we'reapproaching diminishing returns with Beyond and Q3. It's more important to get wider FoV and varifocal(requires eye tracking) lenses to market. Those had far more important to immersion and playability than going higher in resolution.

>>460265395
supers are poorfag cope cards

>>460278068
Is it any good? The screenshots look cool.

>>460273858
I’ve never encountered anything lewd at EU Mahjong and I understand NA doesn’t tolerate crass behavior

>>460266089
polling a room full of weebs suggests this is "matsukaze from kancolle with stupid hat removed"

>>460279783
it's literally run by a coomer

>>460279976
Not just any coomer, but the famous "Cum Magician"

>>460273445
yeah na plays friday and sunday 9 pm est. feel free to drop by sometime. I always post the link here.

>>460271997
It is Pavlov day!

>>460279764
i really dont like how vrchat caters so much to furries

>>460278068
the best VR game is GTFO on VR

>>460280609
they aren't catering to them, furries are making 40% of the fucking content

i dont like this fucking cringe forced mascot

Every year, /a/ rewatches Sora No Woto plus the OVA on the first Saturday of the year at 2000 UTC. This year's stream is on the 6th of January. It is a fun filled time full of Calvado's and classic chaotic danmaku.

I'll be hosting a live re-stream of it + chat to watch in VRChat, so bring your Calvados, your liquor, and a strong bladder to make it through the day/night. Instance link wil be dropped sometime before the show starts to watch the preview videos, do final QA.

I'll be taking recommendations on what world to host in as well that streams twitch.tv links, otherwise dealers choice and you'll have to live with it.

stream.wotos.eu for the official countdown

(If you can volunteer to be an Alternate streamer in case any unforeseen hardware or quality issues please message Neru K, I'd greatly appreciate it. I dont have the time to fix my server at the moment so my laptop might not make the cut. I did manage to QA it and it seemed fine, the amount of danmaku messages that get through might prove to bee too much though)

>>460273393
I got Abzu for comfy gaming

>>460281203
We will migrate to
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_a1cc6c52-7ca8-4500-9322-4dd029306053 post stream for a group photo, which will be posted to the SnW thread on /a/. If anyone doesn't want to be posted in /a/ we can also take a second group picture just for the /vrg/ thread

>>460279976
Make sure to thank him for hosting the event next time you see him

Would the UEVR mod be compatible with Ready or Not? That's the one game I want a VR port or equivalent of.

>>460283787
Seems to work https://youtu.be/FWPUka9OSBs but there's a lot of chatter in the game specific thread on the flat2vr discord so you might want to check that out for eventual fixes

How braindead is EUVR to install?

>>460281203
Is this the one where I'm not allowed to pee?

>>460279792
it does look a lot like matsukaze now that you mention it
unfortunately it doesnt have her ahoge and doesnt seem to lead me any closer in my search, thanks for your efforts though

the base model is https://sonovr.booth.pm/items/4252664 in case anyone wanted to know that atleast

>>460284554
not until the OVA scene when Kanata gets to.

>>460280936
>forced mascot
What did he mean by this?

>>460280609
It is atrocious how much furry catering has increased from VRChat just in the last year alone. You can go on their social media at almost any day and immediately see furshit in your face.

>>460285881
literal gay furry platform now

>>460285970
>now

>>460285881
>Can be anything you want
>99% chose to be either a gay animal or cookie cutter anime girl #1737284
The internet truly is dead

>>460285881
they probably hired a few recently

>>460287256
>recently

>>460284424
Drag and drop the files in
Run the program
Run the game
Attach to the process with the program

>>460287414
out of 10!

hey!!

movie starting soon! in about 10 minutes!

tonight we're watching Blood Diamond

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450259/

No one has found a diamond, Until Now

https://vrch.at/fgra4rhf or join off Lumadurin !

>>460284554
>>460285078
From now on?!

>>460288772
no silly until the stream starts
unless you wanna challenge yourself i guess...we could make the SnW thread a few days early so you can let everyone know on /a/ that you're going for a new record

>>460288017
https://vrch.at/zqhey4ax
world change due to tech issues

How does virtual desktop streaming works?
I was playing non vr games and they were running perfectly most of the time, but sometimes there would be some white artifacts and lag

>>460290874
>white artifacts and lag
white artifacts are often the headset struggling to decode properly. latency could be related, but more likely to be your latency to the pc

>>460291146
so what can I do to improve it?

>>460271997
GG Pavlov good turnout. Sweat so much I STINK.

>>460292097
buy a real vr headset

Good job, guys. Way to ruin VR.

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club, season 10!
Race 63.

19:00 UTC 20:00 CET, Monday 8th of January 2024.

Polish shitbox day. We're gonna drive a car designed by Fiat in seventies, made in Poland until late nineties and never upgraded. FSO Polonez! Track is narrow, car is not fast, I expect a lot of crashes and rough racing. Kill to survive.

1 hour practice (might be shortened)
12 minutes qualifiers
15 lap race

Afterwards we'll take the rally prototype version - Stratopolonez to Warsaw mini rally stage and Track Poznań.

Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought Asseto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/


mods:
https://mega.nz/folder/WjY1VSLT#rDLj1AibGOEtCDrBFfe0hQ

PS. important videos:
https://youtu.be/BAW5afcl9WQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H20IGVQC5nQ
and of course:
https://youtu.be/m_m0WFTAn0E

>>460293297
Finally, somebody does something about virtual violence!
Where can I report these guys >>460293215 for murder?

>>460293297
sir this is the vrchat general
no one here uses zucks metaverse

>>460292097
Latency? Make sure your router has line of sight to your headset. Use 6ghz if possible. Never let it use 2.4ghz though.
Artifacting? Turn your bitrate down or use steam link

>>460293215
>not having all your windows open

So I finally beat plants at war. I played on hard mode and I can recommend that you do not. shots that do 5 damage on normal deal 20 on hard. Bosses have WAY more health. MOSTLY hard mode was okay because it was fun playing a real game; but there were some bullshit sections.

Recommended though, was fun. It was free so that's one reason to try it.

>>460268365
Dude everyone knows who makes each event. If you’ve been noticing I only brand 50% of the event sos makes. Would you be happy if the nye map won’t have branding? Nye is gonna be branded by all of /vrg/ groups and individuals who post here is the aim.
All events made by eveyone have branding one way or another. From signatures, repeating names, map makers, groups etc. Are you somehow annoyed chorketown exists as a brand? How about friends+ dj events with SO’s face on it? How about the pypy brand do you hate that too? Benuldy brand for the soccer? Tipsy tuesday and Bnuuy as brands too. It’s just a tag and I am unsure why you hyper fixate on sos specifically. I never see you complain on the other brands we have.

I understand when the tag or brand is overwhelming and it reaches a narcicism state but if it’s just on the little corner of a poster in the map isn’t that fine?
Let the event makers have a bit of ownership on the things they do.
I appreciate all our event makers and wish them the best and hope we all continue to make and do interesting things together.

>>460293297
>can’t be played in Australia
What did they mean by this?

>>460294895
Meta Horizons are available only in murica and nowhere else really. Most likely they are doing shady shit with user data, so that they would get fined giant quotas elsewhere

I tried playing Moss on SteamVR wired with a Q2. It looks kinda fuzzy, and sometimes when I load into a new area, things get jittery when I move my head, then after a couple seconds they settle down. Is my PC actually just not good enough for this 2016 game (r5 3600, 1660s 32GB ddr43200, all SSDs) or is it cause I have stuff running in the bg? Are there settings I should be changing in the oulus window or the steam window to make things sharper?

>>460295034
Do they want Horizons to fail at this point? I guess they don’t release active player numbers.

my index cable died and i am tired of it.
what are some recommendations for a replacement to the index?

>>460296836
quest pro

>>460296836
Beyond, Q3, Q-Pro are your viable options. Pick which one you want the trade offs of.

>>460296836
Dont bother with the beyond. it has major quality control issues and the lenses are shit

Which VR games to harapan properly? I've played a lot of Blade & Sorcery, but I'm disappointed that enemies don't gasp out for air or anything when you punch them in the stomach. Koikatsu and VRChat don't have real body physics in the first place.

>>460296836
Beyond as you can use your base stations and controllers with it.

>>460293529
Looking forward to it!

>>460296836
Quest pro if you can find it cheap like $500 range

>>460296836
Pico 4 or Bigscreen Beyond.

>>460300113
sick stuff
what game?

>>460300390
jedi knight 2 with https://github.com/DrBeef/JKXR

>>460298448

I bought a VRC avatar model and caked it editing scale on Hips, Thighs etc to attain appropriate thiccness.

Now that I'm applying the generic SPS suite however I'm getting errors regarding non-uniform scale. I can't go back to uniform scale or it will look like shit again, how do I take it's current shape and have Unity accept that as the new default 1.1.1 so it's uniform scale again?

https://twitter.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1742302878893806069
Nofio Wireless addon for Index is loud as fuck

>>460297957
>it has major quality control issues
works on my machine

>>460301193
Seconding this unity question, need to know how to save transformed objects so that their new scale is considered it's default scale, have a dozen props sitting unused due to this issue.

>>460301193
>>460302239
You really should do that stuff in Blender

>>460298448
purin-chan's boxing gym 2
it's unfinished, development long abandoned, the vr is kinda hacked in, and sometimes it will snow crash.
today is a wonderful day to make a backup of your data!

>>460302921
nice review and video

2024 the year of beating women

>>460301193
Use blender to do those edits

>>460302921
I loved this guy's game where you could drown that girl in the bathtub. I came buckets to that one.

>>460304235
S-SAUCE

>>460304084
I guess I started early

I got the GTA San Andreas gun attached to my controller, but I dont know how to correct the aim offset, the aiming is not done with the gun mesh, but something else - my shots are not connected with the direction of my controller/gun

Apart from that, GTA Definitive edition gameplay is cool, very smooth. Attaching the camera to the "head" of the player is perfect

>>460304298
RJ126382
Not VR like Boxing Gym or Air Hockey sadly

>>460304298
purin to ohuro by parabolica. drowning's kind of an afterthought/easter egg and it's not VR

if you want to drown girls in a bathtub without a minigame getting in the way there's heazhan.fanbox.cc, but it's also not VR

>>460302921
One of the first H games I tried after getting VR. 'Completely broken' would be an understatement.

>new year
>new quest 3
>same old anxiety to do anything social in vr

>>460305363
>>460304525
damn....

Does avatar museum 9 run like absolute shit for anyone else?

>>460300696
>>460302921
>>460306000
guys we aren't gonna be beating the allegations like this...

whhat is this? never heard of it and it looks generic

>>460304084

>>460306294
It's fucking garbage. You run through hedge mazes and drop glowsticks to "find your way". Find open area, solve shitty puzzle while getting chased by a monster.
It's not even a popular flat game and I'm beyond livid that this one got voted off as VR goty. Probably fucking nigger devs @everyone on their shitcord to get their desktop users to vote.

>>460306004
Are you in the public map of it? People keep changing avatars all the time there I suggest hiding everyone's avatar so the game does not request and dl avatars off-screen for the others.

>>460306818
Invite only, single person.
Desktop.

How active is Pavlov VR?

>>460304458
Unfortunately they're not allowing discussions of modding the GTA games on the flat2vr discord so you're probably shit out of luck. Take Two are being fags and shutting down any kind of GTA mods they can find so...

>>460306890
On Quest it's pretty popular. On PCVR is is pretty dead outside of a couple of servers. There's no crossplay.

>>460288017
>>460290752
thank you all for coming!!
gee im sure glad all that nasty buisness in africa has been resolved now

see those who can make it next week where we will hopefully be back to the normal viewing location..

>>460306869
It's just you then. Get a new computer.

>>460307446
Its fucking over.

>questchads get the biggest vr game
>pcvr keks have nothing better than a slenderman clone in the entire year

>>460304235
>>460304298
>>460305363
wtf is wrong with you people

>>460307561
I found Asgards wrath to be boring, just makes me wanna play Skyrim VR instead

>>460306592
It's not like the competition was any good. Maybe Gorilla Tag should have won, but all the options fucking sucked. I voted for Crossfire since you could pick games out of your library, but not getting a nomination pretty much killed it's chances.

>>460306890
There's /vrg/ servers on Tuesday for EU and Friday every other week for NA. Public servers are almost dead.

>>460304084

>>460305709
>consider playing VRC again
>remember how badly it went the last 100 times
>remember I have to make an avatar
>don't play VRC again

>>460307561
quest 3 hardware has really surprised me with what it can do. I was worried AW2 was going to feel scaled back not just visually from the original but they built on all the original systems and gave us and even bigger world to explore.
Assassin's Creed was good but they obviously scaled the mission to fit the battery life making the game feel too disjointed and bite size. like a bag of Halloween candy, it's all there but sill have to keep picking at it and unwrapping. Just give me the full snickers ubisoft!

>>460307561
It's over for PCVR. Valve and other devs gave up. It's just a 3D monitor for Unreal Engine games and Skyrim mods at this point.

>>460308641
not even VR

Is there a way to use udon to detect what type of instance the world is loaded into? Want to add an item to the world that only appears in private instances.

>>460309081
i wonder if there's a future in it purely being a hardware thing and devs give up making more "games" (overpriced boring tech demos) for them. i'd rather just have VR mods for real games, they're always better.

>>460309514
It is never going to really die,but like the rest of the market it's going to stagnate

>>460309230
NTA but I think it is/was actually VR, here's the other ancient webum of it.

>>460309514
Same. It's gotten worse with games being made for short sessions with the Quest 2's battery in mind. The most immersive games are the ones you can get lost in for hours at a time, which are mostly flat game ports as they have the content required for that.

>>460307561
god I fucking hate zuck, but who the fuck else is putting the kind of funding into research and game development for VR?!
we aren't long from having a headset with face/eye tracking with varifocal displays. Their lenses on the Quest 3 and Pro are already unmatched.

>>460309392
I haven't checked that yet. Usually I just hide it behind a keypad code

>>460302528
>>460304170
Is there a way to do the exact same changes in Blender? After loading it up I remembered how obnoxious it is transforming Tris, how do I recreate the same changes as resizing part of the armature? I just want hips at 1.1 0.9 1.1 I don't want to tug and pull triangles and eyeball the similarity

>>460311071
pose mode then scaling the bones then applying to shapekey then applying as rest pose

Hello retard here


Can any kind anon give me a super short rundown on the best headset + full body tracking?

Ive heard stuff about the haritorax but im completely out of the know on everything and need a spoonfeed


thank you

>>460311071
With CATS installed, go to pose mode, select hips bone, scale each axis (S then axis you want to scale then proportion), apply as rest pose.
If you don't want the scale to affect children bone go to Edit mode, select bone,bone properties, inherit scale, select None

>>460310329
not enough people own headsets because of how much they cost, no one wants one because there is no Super Mario Bros/Halo type killer app for VR because VR devs are only capable of producing shitty shovelware, so flat game devs don't bother. Zuck is only doing it because he staked his entire company's future on this VR/metaverse shit.

>>460309514
>i'd rather just have VR mods for real games, they're always better.

I disagree. The underlying game is far better, especially since people tend to make mods for good games and not trash, but VR has the unique constraint of making menu navigation a massive pain and very unimerrsive. SkyrimVR is a lot of fun, but holy fuck does constant menu'ing suck dick and you can't get rid of it because of how the game is designed.

>>460311382
index with vive trackers

>>460311559
Skyrim is just a fundamentally shitty game, so of course a VR mod for it isn't going to be fun

>>460311382
Vive trackers are the most reliable. I've heard that haritorax is okay for the price but can be a bit floaty.
Slime is probably the best economy solution but I believe some assembly is required.

If you're completely new and wanting FBT, I'd suggest Index as a headset. Quest 3 is a good headset but you have to jump through additional hoops if you want to do FBT.

>>460311693
SkyrimVR is fun inspite of it being Skyrim, but you didn't address the point that menu'ing is a normal and easy thing for PC and even console games but fundamentally doesn't work well on VR. VR game design requires a completely different design philosophy and approach, so for anything more complex then a FPS, you have to build from the ground up around how you're going to handle things. Even a simple game like HL2's VR mod is pushing the limits of a usable menu once you get all the guns.

>>460311504
>Zuck is only doing it because he staked his entire company's future on-
No I'm pretty sure it's about Jewish control over the masses but it's in it's infancy and fun now. Just bail out when the Quest Super Pro 10 with Brain interface comes out. Do not cross that line!

>>460312252
>but you didn't address the point that menu'ing is a normal and easy thing for PC
see>>460311693
>Skyrim is just a fundamentally shitty game
but otherwise i just wouldn't try to VR a game with a ton of menus or fiddling with interfaces? like don't play Skyrim lol play a good game instead, it's that easy

>VR game design requires a completely different design philosophy and approach,
this thinking is why there are no good VR games worth playing, it just leads to devs neutering all the gameplay and creating janky tech demos that aren't fun to play once you get over the novelty of being in VR

>>460312602
i was gonna draw a comparison to like Nintendo releasing Mario 64 and then just releasing nothing but clones of that for 5 years or whatever and we're told that it's just how 3D games have to be and they can't be meaningfully improved in any way but that doesn't really work when i can play Half-life from fucking 1998 in VR and it's better than any VR game that came out in 2023

>>460309081
It's over for PCVR exclusives. The only reasons to make a PCVR exclusive anymore is if standalone hardware is too weak to handle your concept (like all those cancelled Quest 1 ports) or because you don't want money. We'll still get some VR modes for sims and such but not many made for VR games.
I'm still hopeful that PCVR will bounce back when VR is large enough that the demand for smaller and lighter headsets brings us back to using external hardware.

>>460312602
>i just wouldn't try to VR a game with a ton of menus or fiddling with interfaces?
Ah yes, all those RPG games that don't include menus such as what? Decrying all games that mimic a flat game while moving to a VR centric design as shit is also retarded. Into The Radius is just StalkerVR but would be so much less fun if instead of your backpack, you just pulled things into a menu and had to dig through said menu to get it back out while the game is paused instead of scambling to get your spare mag off the outside of your backpack in real time while being rewarded for being smart about placing it in a reachable spot. This fundamental gap between VR and flat games means that you can't just put the first person perspective in VR for any game without significantly downgrading the experience and as such you are going to end up needing a VR centric design instead of a cludged together mod that's working within the flat gaming restrictions.

Devs being shit and poor in the VR space doesn't change this fact. Imagine if you could stick a backpack loot system, better then VIRK holster system, and Blade and Sorcery's combat into a Skyrim-sized world. You'd have the VR GoTY quite easily, but the problem is that you aren't going to get a AAA studio investing the time and money until the indie and single A devs have experimented on what works and found a solution that they can just copy.

>>460312252
it is interesting how being on a flat screen with mouse/keyboard/gamepad has made many games evolve to pretty complex menu systems. Even if it's not for core gameplay like fun-time inventory management, there's usually like some customization/upgrade system with a huge hierarchy of menus.

minimal inventory "story" shooters almost certainly work best as VR ports for that reason. I wish the master chief collection mod was still being worked on.

>>460314256
>holster system
are there any games/mods that let you use a tracker to fix the holsters to your actual hips? So you don't have to second guess where the game thinks your hips are. That's one of the most annoying things about pavlov, or phasmophobia is particularly bad too.

>>460315063
No.

>>460314256
You can use MageVR's backpack or Spellwheel to get items immersively.

But honestly what you mentioned is part of why I think Fallout 4 VR plays better than Skyrim VR even if the mods aren't as good. Your pip boy doesn't freeze time in that game, so you have to use your holsters to use chems, switch weapons, or use VATS and spend AP for each item you use in your wrist menu. Skyrim, VR or otherwise, lets you freeze time and heal yourself as much as you want with few consequences.

>>460314256
>Ah yes, all those RPG games that don't include menus such as what?
i like how you keep clinging to RPGs and want the discussion to revolve around them because it's the only way your retarded argument works, keep whining about that and playing your gay little tech demos and i'll have fun playing classic FPS and action games that last longer than 2 hours in VR. didn't read the rest of your post btw lol

>>460315063
Hopefully Meta keep developing their upperbody pose tracking/estimation stuff so VR games can use it for unintrusive chest tracking, that would improve the hip disconnect while solving the biggest problem with 3 point VR IK where you turn your head and the entire body swivels.

>>460315480
Based af
Modded Doom 2 is better than most flat shooters in the first place, much less the shovelware that compromises new VR releases.

>>460315993
does the VR stuff work with any WADs or is it just the id ones for now?

Any mahjong enjoyers wanna play some mahjong?

>>460317275
no

>>460317275
no

>>460317275
mahjooming is a sin

>>460316830
GZDoom VR is up to version 4.11.3 of GZDoom https://github.com/hh79/gzdoomvr , so other than a few cutting edge mods like Heartland everything should work.
I'd recommend https://github.com/iAmErmac/gearbox/releases/tag/v0.7.4-vr for easy weapon/item switching andhttps://github.com/iAmErmac/laser-sight-vr to actually aim. If you really don't like laser pointers the sights on https://github.com/iAmErmac/Universal_Doom_3DWeapons_VR or https://github.com/iAmErmac/Universal_Doom_VoxelWeapons_VR work, but there aren't models for every modded gun out there.

>>460315993
>vr devs: why is vr dying
>also vr devs:

>>460310329
>>460311504
>probably watches ready player one and wants to make it real and be the first one on that market
>makes a shitty vrchat clone for corporates
>in the process of shilling his shitty software ends up making the best vr headset on the market
>makes vr accessible with $300 headsets that can play games on their own without a pc
>companies like ubisoft start making spinoffs of their games on vr now that there's a growing market
>funds bigger vr games like asgard's wrath 2 so people have more stuff to play than tech demos
it's crazy but his failure lead to paving the path for vr to actually start taking off.
while valve just threw a $1000 headset and 1 game at people, then fucked off

>>460317878
awesome, cheers. i love Hexen and Heretic's weapons but hate the maps and there's a wad that smooshes them and the enemies into Doom. fuck Skyrim, Doom is going to be my wizard sim

>>460318330
Memes aside, what does stop him from just buying out vrchat?

>>460318631
1. VRchat doesn't want to sell
2. VRC is a minefield of copyright infringement and socially unacceptable behavior, which would open Facebook up to mountains of litigation from every 'virtually raped' person looking to get their pound of flesh

>>460318631
"vrchat is icky and full of weirdos, we want the normie audience"

>>460318330
I have owned ever headset from him except the Go and Q1.
I hate it.
I have a Valve index but I can't go back to it after seeing Quest 3 it just looks awful.

>>460318631
Furry deathsquads sent immedietly after zucc tries to do anything with it

>>460318607
Damn, good idea. You can use something like Samsara to play as Corvus or Parias in any Doom wad. A lot of them are just castles anyways.

>>460319183
>Quest 3 it just looks awful.
I agree that the quest 3 looks awful
I don't know what they were thinking

>>460317506
>>460317668
>>460317813
Please! I need you to show me the pleasure of being ronned inside...

>>460319585
it retains the classes of Hexen but gives them more of Corvus's weapons to fill out the weapon selection a bit more, plus it gives them alt fires so you don't really miss not having all of the Doom arsenal. and it has options to replace all or some of the enemies on the Doom maps with enemies from Hexen/Heretic which is cool. it started with a W and sounded Germanic i'll try to find it later when i start messing with this.

>>460320225
Retard.

>>460315182
MageVR's backpack is still scrolling through a menu, just not with paused time, while Spellwheel is okay but lacks the ability to easily restrict it down to only the essentials you want instead of having to guess where your spells got moved to when you picked up a new potion. There's also the VIRK gestures but they're equally as finicky, and even the holster system doesn't work great for weapons, much less lacking the feature of letting you put a couple of potions on a chest bandolier for easy access.

>>460301440
good for you shill, doesn't work for 90% of customers right now

>>460321605
[citation needed]

>>460321605
The Bigscreen Beyond doesn't work for 9 out of 10 customers? That seems really hard to believe.

>>460318330
Facebook is the most used app on mobile phones, but facebook have zero market share on mobile hardware.
Zucc learned from his mistake and is going all in on the next big thing, aka VR.
>>460318631
What
>>460319032
Wrote, coporate nightmare. Even if I would love VRC without game rips and MMD/TDA, it's just too much of a shitheap to sort out. But if VRChat ever solves that, Zucc might actually buy it.
Imagine a booth only VRC...

>>460285881
>endorsing degenerate sexual fetishes on the company's official corporate twitter account
>for this game that children play
how is this even legal?

>>460322327
This is the new normal. Much like Roblox the devs are keeping things open on purpose.

>>460321901
It's unironically poorfag cope. He definitely doesn't even have a beyond.

>>460320897
I think that VRIK holsters work OK for weapons, but no potion holstering sucks. If only the guy who made Virtual Chems for Fallout 4 VR would make a potion version for Skyrim. Until then I'm just going to use the lil favorites menu for everything.

>>460321901
NTA but no it's very believable with how awful tech has become.

>>460322675
I wonder who in the Berlin government let this happen.

>>460323491
I don't know if it's just one schizo or what but I've noticed increasingly bullshit and hard to believe negative claims about Beyond here over the past month or so, which is a stark contrast to almost all the /vrg/ people I've actually heard in-game in VRC talk about it.

>>460285881
>>460322675
>consume loli media
>see a company supporting their biggest userbase: gay furries
>pearl clutch and unironically start saying "won't somebody think of muh children?"
no one will ever take you seriously, specially when it comes to whining about degeneracy

>>460323518
VIRK for weapons has the issue of trying to guess where your hips are when you're in a movement animation, or god forbid crouching. You can holster stuff to your arms which is more consistent, but looks fucking retarded for anything bigger then a dagger which is already pushing it. They're usable and I do, but they're fairly janky for something that shouldn't be.

>>460323805
>consume loli media
Nice projection.

>>460323805
ebic projection, but sexual fetishes as a whole have no place in a videogame corporation

>>460323748
Honestly everyone who's saying shit about the beyond should post a pic of their's first with timestamp before I believe what they say.

>>460323918
I pretty much stick to my arms for small things and back for larger things. My waist is just for my torch and pickaxe at this point. I don't think that I've ever been able to fit something in my legs, but I'll find that holster one day and keep a knife or a waterskin in my boot.

Trying to figure out what the glasses add/take from the avatar

>>460325156
Maybe add a few more accessories to the left to balance out the detail like this

>>460325156
black or purple frames might look better, they seem to be clashing with the hair a bit

>>460324386
I have my shield on the cross draw hip, and then two different one hands on either cross draw or same side on hip so I can have one for collecting souls and the other for killing things with different enchants. I gave up on using a torch despite it being immersive as fuck because I could never put it away and draw my shield while moving so instead I've been just using candlelight and the dark vision spell. Something else is an issue between VR games, especially non-scifi ones, and flat is conveying resources to players. Having the Soul Gauge on the back of my hand is awkward to look at mid fight if I'm holding a shield, much less the one that's mounted to the inside of your wrist. The thumb ring display for health on my shield hand is okay and then having magica and stamina on the back of my weapon hand is a workable solution, but still makes it hard to see when I'm out of stamina unless I stop attacking.

>>460325284
im aware of that but i decided to keep them like that. i believe they're an iconic from my koikatsu avatar

>>460325438
As much as I like my wrist bars for health, stamina, magicka, needs, equipment durability, semen remaining etc. I turned the HUD back on in Skyrim just so I could keep track of health and stamina mid fight. Given that even native games like Saints & Sinners have a stamina bar HUD it's an unimmersive feature I can excuse.

>>460317275
>>460320698
jong this fri/sun!! 9 pm est! wao!

>>460326206
Yea, but the question becomes if there is a better way to handle the game design instead of having a stamina system or if it can be communicated audibly by your character breathing hard or something.

>>460327036
Exhaustion SE and Better Resource Warnings do that. You can even get the different vision effects at low health. But I'm not sure if an overhaul that removes player stamina entirely exists in a balanced state.

>>460311319
>>460311396
Was really excited that this worked so well, spent an hour getting it perfect, then it says this, and the bones move back to original spot outside of the body.
RIP hopes and dreams I'm not figuring out these hieroglyphics, thanks though.

>>460327979
Cats is broken with 4.0

Cycling hour starting at 9pm ET (very soon)!
https://vrch.at/pcxtr7h5

FYI the bikes need FBT and some sort of pedaling equipment

What booth is the thickest?

>>460328625
Going to slip in after and lick the bike seats

>>460329023
any Reisen_U avatars

>>460330187
Ah dang these all look quite bad anon

Doing some Karting in Assetto Corsa tomorrow night at 8PM EST (about 23 hours from now).
Going to warm up with some Mario Kart tracks, then try to get a race in at the Lutech Karting Arena.
Mods are below and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw

>>460330465
out of 10

>>460327979
You don’t need CATS to apply rest pose. Google it. For me it’s spacebar that shows where I can type arbitrary words to show what I need. My settings for keybinds are 2.79 while using 4.0

>>460330665
Hrm. 6? Good textures, boobs big, nice sized thighs hips & tummy. Arm fat is nice, but they appear almost too short and everything below the thigh is not that good

>>460287180
It's because if you take Udon worlds out of the picture, which are little more than glorified minigames, the gameplay of VRChat is entirely social interaction.
Sure, you can be an 8ft Spartan or photorealistic dinosaur or whatever you can imagine, but at the end of the day, everyone here is human, and humans all have their unconscious biases. Namely, we're more likely to want to talk to attractive people than unattractive people.
Given that we don't have 100% photorealistic graphics in VR, people with healthy attractions to 3DPD don't end up living in VRChat, while weebs and furries, two demographics that have majorly warped senses of attraction, make it their home.

>>460329023
Check the blendshape addons from here: https://migero.booth.pm/

>>460332014
>It's because if you take Udon worlds out of the picture, which are little more than glorified minigames, the gameplay of VRChat is entirely social interaction.
I like playing boardgames the most. I can play any boardgame in VRC, so I already have many lifetimes worth of games to play in VRC.

>>460332529
Congrats, you're an exception, I'm just explaining why 99% of the playerbase becomes something they want to fuck.

Time for pypy! For those who don't know, at pypy we dance along with just dance style videos. It's fun!

the link:
https://vrch.at/ae8k9sp8
or join on yuru

>>460262464
Starting in 10 minutes or so, you can join off Silencen or try the link below:
https://vrch.at/5my23vv8

>>460335897
>getting less and less purple by the day

>>460335897
Why does Moub have red eyes now?

>>460329346
these are public bikes we wipe them down after wiredo.

>>460335897
unironically looks like a moub avatar but worse fashion sense

>finally got my index and trying it out
>decide to try pavlov
>weapon keeps randomly falling out of hand
why

>>460335897
Evil moub

Nofio adapter is apparently total shit and sounds like a goddamn jet engine with the fan they put on it.

>>460337141
boum

Is it normal to have orientation issues and depth perception jank when taking off your headset for the first time

>>460337139
Grip your fucking controller like you mean it, retard. It's not gonna break if you hold it tightly.

>>460337295
I'd say yes. You'll also have the dissociative moments where you're be looking at your hands irl and they won't seem to be in quite the right position, and you'll also probably have the intrusive thoughts about sticking your hand through your real life monitors once you start using a virtual desktop display. It'll pass as your brain adapts.

>>460337340
I don't even need to hold my real guns that tightly

>>460337139
>>460338878
You can rebind a grab/release button in pavlov.
I suggest doing this because pavlov wants you to grip way too tight.

>>460335897
Youby.....babe... dear.... go back....

>>460339019
Ok thanks

Where can i commission a vrchat avatar?

>>460335897
what is going on with this avatar
these colors aint it

>>460339779
if you hang around enough people here they'll help you make one for free

>>460326950
Ok, but one question... will there be a 'bonding' session afterward with all of the jyanshis...?

>>460339779
Right here
*unzips dick*

>>460343141
no.

has anyone here bought a buttkicker?

>>460337295
Your brain is going through massive perceptual adjustments we like to call "getting one's VR legs". All kinds of weird phenomena happen when your brain learns to compensate for the fact that it can appear to be moving without the inner ear sensations to back it up.

I remember trying the original Occulus devkit for the first time and having a kind of existential nausea for days afterwards, realizing that my eyes and body could be so out of sync.

But eventually you reach a point where you jump off building and walk through walls and other people like it's nothing, so savor the adaptive strangeness - it won't last for long.

Pypy had concluded!! Thanks to everyone who showed up. See you again Thursday at 10 EST.

>>460348605
Tummies...

>>460348605
Youb............ nyo........................

>>460351027
>he's so new he doesn't realize I was blonde before moub even existed
>two different times

>>460348605
actually amazing how yuru can make a model worse and worse. default kikyo looks better at this point

>>460351208
we joined same sis...... you started out as the afk butt bote w/ white blue hair

>>460348605
puffy goat

>>460351208
pastel purple is still the goat

Anyone here use EmuVR? Been slowly setting up my room

>>460351973
This one looks like she would milk you dry in 30 seconds flat.

>>460351973
Too bad it's not still easy to do this. I'd like to do a new one.

>>460351973
wheres the new illustrious?

>>460352424
Here!
unfortunately freeze frame did not last for long after she was created
I never did another one of those photos and now it's much harder to do

>>460352626
The tits got so saggy over time. Age is hitting hard I see.

>>460351973
holy shit >>460351232 is right

Why do I only ever see the same 3 or so people posting themselves in these threads?

>>460352708
leave her alone!

>>460352913
why do you think anyone would avatar in a video game general on 4chan?

>>460352913
we just don't know

>>460352913
avatarfagging is fatherless behavior

When a VR game displays on the desktop as well as in the headset, does that have an effect on performance or not?

>>460353887
The ancient meme was turning off your desktop monitor to save frames but I'm pretty sure it didn't do anything significant. The desktop mirror is pretty efficient. If it's doing a spectator cam (eg: not just showing one of the eyes' view) it's much more expensive.

>>460353887
it shouldn't, the rendering is only happening once, it's just being displayed twice. Assuming that it's just showing a copy of one of your eyes on the desktop ofc

>>460354341
>>460354450
I see it in Moss and it's widescreen instead of square but it might just be a crop of an eye. It's convenient enough, as I wanted to stream it for a couple friends in discord.

>>460332014
>>460332882
I get that. It's just that disregarding the roleplay aspect of vrc seems like a massive waste to me.
The most fun I've had in vrc has been with people acting "in character" with their playermodel, be it a priest preaching, gondola exploring, link doing "heyaaa", or even ugandan knuckles doing their thing.
I understand not everyone may like that, or even have the ability too (even though most people who do talk in vr you can feel would be great at this kind of schtick).
BUT, with furries and anime girls you get, what? Either ERP or people talking about their irl lives, past meetings or whatever inmersion breaking thing. Which, again, is fine but a waste of possibilities.
I like to compare it to an improv session. You can dress as yourself and just have a chat, it's improv either way. But you'll have the most fun dressing up as something else and sticking to a character. You may do friends there and you can very well meet up with them later for a more "real" experience.
Whatever, I feel like I repeated myself too much there but it's something that frustrates me about VRC. Not like I can complain either since that's apparently how people enjoy the game.

>>460343849
Someone has a motion sim thing, but surprisingly I don't know of anyone with a buttkicker.

>>460351978
An anon was hosting multiplayer occasionally, but I don't really play much outside of that.
I should set some lightgun stuff up though, that seems like a good use case outside of multiplayer.

>>460355414
I don't have any desire to roleplay or such, much less for every interaction I'm having. It can be funny to switch to it as a costume for a gag for a moment or such, but personally I'm playing VRC to explore cool worlds and meet interesting people instead of trying to be an entertainer, which is why I use an anime man avatar that I can switch outfits on to not be out of place at a big rave one night and then a casual hangout the next.

>>460355414
I login to hang out with my internet friends, share creativity, and maybe do a simple activity. simple as.

>>460356420
>>460356531
As I said, I understand.
It may be FOMO on my part since what you do will always be possible, but roleplaying will progressively die as they crack down on moderation (even more) of comunication and copyrighted content.
We're just different kinds of players.

>>460351978

>>460357363
It just seems like passive aggressive bait on your part. there are huge rp communities and many of us have explored these activities thoroughly. if you want to hop on your knuckles avatar and find da queen, no one is going to stop you but most of us got bored of that about 3000 hours of play time ago. in fact most of us have probably done more rp than you might think by a large margin simply attending various themed events like d&d, maid cafe, train express, etc.

>>460352913
too busy playing the game

>>460358171
I'm interested in this stuff but have no idea how to find these places.

>>460358171
>>460358646
I kinda wish we had real rp events. kinda like the play but everyone has a part

>>460358171
Sorry about the "baityness" I've realized it's the only way to get responses to my posts other than
>lust provoking image
But I stand by my opinion and wanted to get some opinions abut my blogpost

>>460335897
Moubification fetish...

>>460343753
Noooo don't deny me my extra special post-game bonding rites with all of the big strong jyanshi men having their way with tiny, defenseless poor little me...

>>460352913
I'll help post sometimes.
SEA Exploration is going to be back this saturday!

So look forward to some pictures of anons exploring this WEEKEND!

>>460362087
Bottoms don't get rights

I'm kinda new here do we have public world raiding meetups? Joining public worlds and fucking with the attentionwhores, kids, normalfags, etc.

>>460362953
Good way to speedrun a ban

>>460362863

>>460362953
We have world explorations. Do you enjoy that?

>>460362953
We explore roleplay scenarios. Do you enjoy that?

>>460362953
You're 20 years too late. This general is /lgbt/ rejects

>>460363054
I'm not saying to go around telling people to kill themselves (although kids do yell nigger in every other public world and don't seem to get banned)
There's a bunch of non bannable ways to mess with people. No need to even be directly rude to them, you can make them uncomfortable sam hyde style or whatever.

>>460352913
I should post images I've taken more often, and so should other people.

Fuck the newfags misunderstanding what avatarfagging actually is and thereby creating exactly the overly stifling atmosphere that the spirit of the rules of 4chan is intending to avoid.

>>460363215
Not that anon but I only use vrc exclusively to explore worlds by myself. Would love to have other anons around. When do you do that?

>>460352913
We may be even fewer than you think. I post quite a lot and almost never join any event. Every time I post I try to look like a different anon. Sometimes I avatarfag, sometimes I don't. Sometimes I make my ESLness aparent, sometimes I ask chatGPT to fix it. Sometimes I change my capitalization. Sometimes I change my punctuation. Sometimes I say I have different headsets or setup than I do.

>>460363516
We explore on reposting copy pasta now

:: SEA Anime and Exploration - Edition | (See schedule below) ::
What is this?
We go in a group to explore many new VRchat worlds in a rapid fashion to find good ones and experience them in full with nice frens. We watch a couple of seasonal anime before the explore!

When?
Sun - 9:00AM-10:30AM UTC - SEA anime
Sun - 10:30AM-3:00PM UTC - SEA after hrs heavy exploration

There will be one soon in a few hrs will drop updating rentry world link from programmer-anon when the time is nigh.

If I get it working, would people play the nomifactory pack(+extra) in vivecraft?

https://www.reddit.com/r/ValveIndex/comments/18xepy2/nofio_wireless_adapter_handson_and_first/

So Happy I did not back this, seems Nofio turned out to be shit.

>>460365951
Something doesn't seem right with the image quality, how is it so poor?
You can see what you get with q2/q3 at 150mbps which is not much for wifi 6e, and that looks fucking awful in comparison at what you'd expect are higher bitrates

>>460366154
Yeah, the complaint image quality seems odd to me. I'm hardcapped at 150mbps because of my shitty router on q2 but I've watched enough of the nofio videos to see that it's running at locked 300+mbps with 99.9% of the packets arriving in 2-3ms.
The fan noise seems to be a design flaw but I'm not sure about the rest.

>>460366428
I saw someone in brads d*scord saying since the fan vents are only at the back of the headset you can't lie down or they'll overheat
and you're sure as fuck not getting any sleep with the turbines running
I wonder if the fans are running harder than they should or if they have their pin mapping wrong on the custom carrier board

>>460365951
oh no no no

>>460355414
Conflating improv with immersion is kind of where I think you'll lose the majority of this community on this one.

Nobody gives a fuck about performing some perfect Miku barmaid fantasy for the sake of your dissociation, anon. It's exhausting to improv non-stop, and honestly it's kind of tedious to interact with people that never let their mask drop.

It's like you have your polarity confused. The majority here prefer to be regular humans puppeting their fully body Barbie's and getting plastered together, with maybe some occasion skits and gags breaking out.

VRChat is good for learning how to make men cum!

>>460366896
I already had this information, applying it is fun though.

>>460366986
I know, right?

STOP IT I do not want to cum

I experienced something weird, I'm curious if anyone else has experienced it or have any explanation for it.
I'm talking about getting more inmersion out of lower resolutions. Was testing some VRC worlds on my Q3 and was getting poor performance (70-80fps). So I donwscaled steamvr to like 40-50% res.
Suddenly everything looked PS1-esque pixelated but weirdly real and inmersive.
Just curious about this.

>>460368238
Could just be the increased frame rate
or you need lens inserts because you are short sighted

>>460366787
I guess I'm just not interested into chit chat. I'd do my improv and when tired of it just go mute and listen to others do theirs. If world dies then I jump instances until I find another instance with fun improv happening.

>>460368315
It's not vision related, I was using contact lenses. You're right about the frame rate, could be that or maybe the increased blurriness helped realism making poor details not stick out at all

>>460273393
So far tried tony hawk 1+2, Blacktail, Astroneer and will try high on life tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEx3zAcwA6U

I got Tetris Effect. It's just an assault on the senses. I wish you could zoom out more because I feel like I'm moving my eyes too much to look at my next pieces. As a Tetris game as well, it takes a lot for me to get used to. I never noticed but I relied so much on the colors of the pieces to know what they were but here they're all uniform. I can't get used to it.
overall meh

Dear Virtual Reality enjoyers.
I think it is time for me to get a new GPU.
I feel like my 2080 Super can barely do the job and sometimes it actually kinda fails. (screen tearing and stuttering which is not acceptable)
A 4090 would have been fun since I got a ultra wide monitor too, but 2.4 k USD is a lot and probably very overkill.
What do you think bros?

>>460370685
they announcing 4XXX supers soon, might want to see what they're dropping.
also saw a clickbait article yesterday about how 5XXX 'Blackwell' gpu's might "be sooner than we expect"

>>460370602
>I never noticed but I relied so much on the colors of the pieces to know what they were but here they're all uniform
This was my issue with it too

>>460370480
Anyone figured out how to anchor some hud elements to wrist and stuff?
I can't find any info about modding on their 'cord.

>>460370685
The super series is coming soon; but without that I think a 4080 16GB is enough regardless.

>>460365951
This looks DK1-tier bad

>>460370938
Not that anon but coming from a 2080 or a 3070 I'm guessing the only worthy upgrades are either a 4080/4070tisuper for mid tier with 16gbvram or 3090/4090 for high tier 24gbvram huh?

>>460371164
Yes, GPU market is fucked if you have a unusually high need for processing power.

>>460370835
>>460370938
Puts me in a awkward situation where I want to wait until Super drops, but I also don't wanna do much more VR before I get a new GPU.
Oh well. I'm sure we will get some more information soon since we just got to 2024

>>460371624
There's plenty of quest port on steam on top of mods like team beef's and all of those aren't really demanding at all.

>>460371624
fwiw I have a 4070ti 12gb and it werks good. I bought with a coupon months ago with the intention of getting the 5XXX flagship when it comes out.
then i got into VR, so I wish I had just gotten a 4090, but I'm running most games at native Q3 res, can almost always get 90hz. wish I could push 120hz on some of em but maybe there'll be some giganigga-5090 with 32gb vram or some shit

>>460351978
I want to try it again now that it supports custom models and maybe host something at EU-friendly times.

>>460371752
That's very true. I have yet to play Blade and Sourcery. Should probably be fine. Gonna go try that now.

>>460371861
Good to know.
I think it would consider splurging on something like a 5090. Would be nice for AI stuff too. (unrelated)

>>460367196
Oh my... are you sure?

>>460372027
Same boat. Whay do my only two hobbies have to be massive VRAM sinks such as VR and AI. If I just was into flascreen gaming I'd still be rocking my 1060 6gb.

>>460256692 (OP)
>Meta Quest app once again No 1 on the charts for Christmas Day
>Quest 3 already ahead of Vive and WMR on the Steam Hardware Survey
Meta wins again

>>460372278
Why wouldn't it, it's the best headset hands down.

>Mechwarrior 5 already has a new-and-improved VR mod that moves hud elements into the cockpit thanks to UEVR
it begins

>>460372347
Hands down ass up more like

>>460372347
you can't have your hands down on a quest though
they have to be in your field of view

>>460372870
Not really, I bought a QPro previously, so my controllers are self-tracked :^)
(Also there's two tracking cameras pointing down it's up where the Q3 has some trouble)

>>460364807
>gregging in VR
that potion is too strong for me

Has anybody tried a cloud PC for VR? I thought the lag would be a deal breaker but apparently there are people playing on that setup

>>460373326
Just build one my dude
Even a 1080 is good enough for pcvr

>Permanent price cut for Quest 2
Guess the rumors of a Quest 3 lite might be true

>>460373932
>Even a 1080 is good enough for pcvr
As someone who had that card until 2021. No it isn't.

>>460374837
I used one with Index until 2021 too and it was... okay as long as you stayed away from 40+ instances. Distance hider could help too.
But in no way anyone should buy a 8GB VRAM 7, almost 8 years old GPU for VR in 2024.

>had to disable 4chanX for captcha to work
HIROOOOOOOOOO

>>460351978
>>460356190
>>460371970
I love video games, I'd like to play, i think they had a rar of the games they used for a while. maybe we should have a new updated one?

>>460376008
Bonus points if you decorate the room to be super comfy

>>460371970
So where's the pack for this webm with all the roms and isos included?

>>460368238
you do kinda get this when you step back to older HMDs like the OG Vive. Sure everything is pixelated, but those pixels are sharp and that somehow looks a lot better

>>460377442
My problem with shit like the vive is not the pixels but the small black grid inbetween them.

>>460368238
Join on Quest standalone for the true PS1 experience with impostors.

>>460375737
What's a captcha?

Just got my third replacement beyond and it still looks worse than my index ama

>>460375737
>HIROOOOOOOOOO
>implying he has anything to do with the site other than being the front facing owner
lol
also yeah this sucks, this website gets worse every year

I got a quest 3 a week ago. never tried vr before.
Do the other straps fix the problem of the heaset feeling like it's burrowing into your forehead ?

is my headset defective because it has a lot of glare on the lens whenever there is a light in a dark background. Looks like a oil / grease stain on glasses.

>>460381914
The headset for the Q3 actually kinda sucks; you'll need to try adjusting it.
As for the glare; yeah that's pretty normal. Adjusting the headset strap (again) can reduce it.

>>460381995
I did try adjusting it.
The main point of contact on it is at the top, against your forehead.
i'm not sure if the face plate is good for me either but the headset digging into my forehead is un comfy.

>>460374837
As some currently using a MSI GTX 1080 SEA HAWK EK X for PCVR gaming: yes it is. More than enough. VRChat struggles in 60 person instances, but the performance and VeryPoor issues on VRChat affect even 3090Ti users.

>>460381914
>>460383318
you have an abnormal head shape anon

>>460381914
Wash your goddamn face

>>460383782
Actually it's just the sky hawk x and not ek x. Whoops!

>>460381914
Unfortunately, every headset has its tradeoffs, despite what the resident Meta shill tries to tell you. Your best bet is tinkering with it yourself and if that doesn't make it acceptable for you, to get another headset and tinkering with that. But there will always be things that can't be improved with tinkering, you just gotta find a headset that is the least annoying for you personally.

>>460381914
Buy a pypyplug and it will sort out the discomfort problems.
You're welcome!

>>460383782
>>460375737
I should have clarified that I don't play VRchat where < 90 FPS is considered inevitable.

>>460381914
Despite the pricetag, the stock headstrap is garbage.
The full-frame glare is a pancake lens thing.

>>460377319
This was the latest pack made by the NA host: https://file.vrg.party/EmuVRfull.zip
Addendum: https://file.vrg.party/Uohhh.zip
For custom models, they're being shared in their Discord

>Ryzen 7 3700X
>RX 5700XT
>16GB RAM
>Valve Index
>Vive trackers 3.0
Anything worth upgrading that wouldn't be overkill or bleeding edge meme?

>>460388898
slotting in a 5600X3d is a decent shout there

>>460388898
Wait sorry, 5800X3d

>>460388898
GPU. 8GB of VRAM might be too low for newer higher resolution headsets or crowded VRChat worlds.

>>460368392
How do you find this kind of stuff?

Played Blade and Sourcery for 20 minutes. Game made me climb so much in the tutorial.
Had to stop because I got sick. Didn't even get to murder.
Telekenisis makes me feel very cool tho.

>>460388898
I remember going from ryzen 3600 to 5600x and seeing a proper bump in blade&sorcery performance. Since you have an AM4 board already, you can probably do the same (except as anon said, go for x3d meme), but then again, iirc B&S was the only singular game that had shown some benefit from the upgrade.

I doubt it's going to be a massive upgrade, but slotting a new CPU into a compatible mobo that you hopefully already have is both cheap and low-effort, so if you're feeling like it, why not

>>460389771
New to VR? Motion sickness is normal; rest and play again when you feel better and it will eventually go away.

>>460389771
Don't worry that's normal. Take the headset off as soon as you get too sick.
In half an hour (when you get better) or try again. If you keep going at it like that in 3-5 days you'll have your vr legs.

EU PyPy today at 18:00 UTC, that's in about 2h, I'll drop a link to the world few minutes before starting, vids are in the link, see you dancing!

https://rentry.org/vrgpypy

also vids of last week have been updated with 10 more vids

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AMd195-Cf4&list=PLqVTVLsIotSkJA9GAc5aIXTVH9EwLWRBL

>>460388898
getting a new gpu is a bigger upgrade than a cpu upgrade. your gpu is the equivalent of a 1070ti, thats crash city in any vrc instance with 20+ people.

>>460362953
Why dont you have an x3d cpu already?

>>460390684
>a 1070ti
A 5700xt is more like a 2070

>>460266089
>>460269269
https://booth.pm/ja/items/5377746
literally on the first page of booth anon…

>>460390684
>>460391030
That would be one proper upgrade to make, for sure. I went from 1080 to 3080ti some time ago and the only reason I've kept the card was VR boost, it was so nice to finally play some of the games at full index resolution. Never enough GPU for VR.

>>460381914
You can get a nice aftermarket strap for like 20-30 usd which helps pretty significantly with fixing the weight distribution. Better face gaskets help as well. Almost all the meta headsets require some aftermarket additions to make them more usable.

>>460391030
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-Ti-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/3943vs4045
extremely similar performance

>>460391947
>userbenchmark

>>460391985
well you can also just literally look at the specs

>>460391985
>400k benches submitted for the nvidia card and 250k for the amd card
>well it doesnt say what i want it to say so its not a good source

>>460392176
>>460392316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQSBj2LKkWg

>>460390556
Woohoo!

>expecting hardware upgrade to have impact on a game that still has you gain massive performances from disabling nameplates

>>460389897
It's not normal. I've never had it, ever.

>>460393441
You're not normal, retard

>>460392691
>thinking 3cucksphilip is a reputable source
come on bro you know this guy is a joke and commonly made fun of in the cs community right? regardless, your video isnt even about gpus so there isnt even a point being made here.
but in the event you want to discredit information that is easy to read for yourself you can just supply us with a different source that somehow comes up with different specs for 7 year old gpus.

>>460393605
>2019 was 7 years ago
Time flies....

>>460393517
Maybe try not stuffing your body with greasy garbage and you won't feel sick from seeing a screen move around? Or maybe your genes just suck, either way skill issue.

>>460393801
1070ti was 2017 anon...

>>460393958
RX 5700XT was 2019 anon...

>>460394036
is this really what your argument has devolved into? why should anyone listen to you?

>>460393942
I don't feel sick moving around now, I got over it. However you are either completely ignorant that it is very common to get temporary motion sickness or in some form of purposeful denial which makes your input as effective as your insults.

>>460394109
I didn't and I'm just an ordinary person. You're the one who claims it's abnormal to not puke through my headset, which is just fucking baffling to me.

>>460394080
anyone shilling userbenchmark is the same kind of drooling tech illiterate retard that would use speccy in current year

>>460389058
>>460389791
Why not just go for a 7700x/7800x3d instead?
I know it's AM5 and DDR5 instead which means upgrading the MB and RAM but wouldn't that be a higher bump in performances?
It's not like the difference in prices between both upgrade would be enough to buy a new GPU

>>460394540
Well if you want to buy a new platform the 7800x3d is better. By a decent margin. HOWEVER, a 5800X3d is a slot in and so hilariously cheaper (even more so if you sell the old cpu), and that 3d cache does so much heavy lifting it's in a different class of gaming CPU than the rest of the 5000 series.

>>460394540
I'm taking mine back >>460389791, I didn't realize how weak 5700xt is. I imagine upgrading it to an equivalent of 3080 or higher will result in massive, massive performance boost, I used to have a GPU roughly equivalent to 5700xt and I always had to crank down index resolution below native to keep it smooth.

>>460394382
>try to correct someone
>show nothing to substantiate your claims
>be wrong
>refuse to elaborate
chad. You contributed with nothing of worth at any point in this conversation yet you are dead certain of your idiocy.

>>460384287
>I’ve managed to become the resident meta shill
Heh
As for >>460381914
the glare thing is normal, try decreasing brightness, that’ll improve both your blacks and quality life too so 3x1 but you won’t be able to completely get rid of it.
As for the headstrap, in all honestly, I think the only reason to get a Q3 over a used QPro is liking the stock headstrap. If you’re going to buy a custom vicegrip one anyways consider buying a QPro instead.

>>460385371
I love the stock strap, is the only reason why I used my Q2 instead the QPro and the only reason why I bought the Q3 when already having the QPro.
Also the lens smear my experience has been pretty much the same on fresnels like the Q2 or CV1

>>460332529
Any suggested worlds for board games?

>>460394540
>>460394673
Full upgrade to 7800x3d with 32GB of RAM would cost 800-900€ (cpu+mb+ram)
5800x3d would be 330€

I'm seeing used Q3 go for 400 bucks on my cunts equivalent of craiglists because of normalfags getting sick in VR. Might be worth to snag one methink.

>>460393434
Wait really?

>>460393942
This is stupid. You get sick because your brain registers a mismatch between what you see and what your body (inner ear etc) tells you, you see movement where your body tells you that you don't move. This means you're hallucinating, which is usually caused by eating poisonous plants, so to be on the safe side, your body wants to throw up, to get rid of whatever drugs or poisons you ingested. So if anything, people who get motion sick in VR have healthy reactions and you lack a significant survival instinct.

>>460396434
I see, I'm entirely comfortable with operating under the influence of psychedelic substances like acid and shrooms. And it's stupid to throw up if it's not something you ingested that's making you nauseous. That'd be akin to taking a dump every time you feel like sneezing and then wondering why your nose still feels fucked up.

>>460395312
These are the ones I've tried
Love Letter: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_6bdba474-30c1-4ebd-8b39-3d5e4a38ade1
Exploding Kittens: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_9702a1fd-53ba-42d6-878a-665790104047
Azul: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_0983dcdb-d41c-4ebd-a3cb-e542cc2c4be8
Patchwork: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_b73aebbe-59df-44f0-b4f9-5b3d3a26b438
Carcassone: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_72fec55c-75a6-4f07-ad9e-b2d02531de8a

is it worth to pay 100-150€ more for a pico 4 compared to a used quest 2? mainly for pcvr

>>460397024
god I wish vrchat wasn't such a piece of shit and we could have the selection that tabletop simulator has. Guess I'll have to add my more niche favorites myself

I have two desktop PCs
I want to upgrade to improve VR performance
I have no experience reselling PC components
I would greatly appreciate it if you gave me some tips on what to sell, what to keep, what to upgrade.
Ideally I'd be left with just one computer.
>PC1 (the one I currently use)
mini pc so uses custom mini MOBO and mini RAM
rtx 3070
i7 10700
16gb mini RAM DDR4 I'm pretty sure
>PC2 (old PC)
standard case
AM4 socket MOBO
ryzen 5 1600
gtx 1060 6gb
8gb ram DDR4? could be DDR3 idk

I've thought of moving the GPU to the old PC and getting a 5800x3d since it fits the socket but then I'd be left with half a mini custom PC which would be a pain in the ass to sell (I think?)
Other option is selling the whole mini PC and getting a new GPU too.
Consider I have a ~500€ budget + whatever I get from selling components.
I honestly have no idea what to do.

>>460397789
I want to port Anima: Shadow of Omega, Axis and Allies or Senji one day. Wish Tabletop Simulator VR mode wasn't so shit.

>>460397465
Either way you'll need 20$ for knuckle straps, 30$ for facial interface, 70$ for a wifi6 router and 40$ for a battery pack.

good god all these poor fags blowing all their money on a new vr headset but having to cheap out on PC parts so they end up running at 20% resolution!
WTF are you doing?!

>>460385371
>The full-frame glare is a pancake lens thing.
>>460394996
>the glare thing is normal

Is it all pancake lens or is it just meta using cheaper lens on the q3 ? I'm looking around online and people are saying they exchanged headsets to get better samples

>>460397807
Upgrade your computer

>>460399638
sounds like anon has dirty lenses, glasses or inserts. Q3 has the best lenses on the market right now.

>bigscreen costs 1500 usd in europe

I hate the taxes here.

>>460399638
They might have cheaped out on displays, face tracking or whatever. But as far as I know Meta's lenses are currently state of the art, best ones out there with le secret recipe for the antiglare coating.
I've heard some youtubers say the coating on the QPro may be better than the one on the Q3 but everyone seems to agree it's still superior to anything else.
I haven't tried other pancakes so I can not confirm any of this by myself.

>>460397807
what game ?
if you are playing Assetto Corsa vr, the 5800x3d would be the best upgrade path.
other than that, i'm guessing sell the 3070 and get a used 4070 Ti when the super cards come out this month.

>>460381914
>>460394996
>>460399638
>quality life
I'm retarded, I meant battery life

>>460400229
Anon usd pricing is before taxes they do not pay 999$ for it there either. It depends on the state.

>>460400297
Mostly vrchat. Maybe blade and sorcery and some of the unreal titles.

>>460395312
Mahjong

>>460395312
桜降る代に決闘を/furuyoni
Gun and Gun

>>460390556
starting now
https://vrch.at/m4yw9bcb

>>460256692 (OP)
Is pavlov still worth buying in current year 2024

>>460400724
You want an x3d chip then. The extra cache works magic on Unity games a lot of the time. (Nothing will save your frames in a world full of unoptimized retards though)

>>460398509
€ but yeah. probably skipping the knuckle straps because i want it for DCS mainly. might connect via cable at first too, dunno. is the battery life worse than the quest?
i'm reading that the image quality is a lot better on the pico 4 comapred to the quest for pcvr, that's why i'm considering it. dont care much about standalone.

>has a top of the line PC with a 4090 and a 3D CPU
>still whines about muh optimization

>>460402421
If you like SnD, sure. I mean, the counter strike defuse bomb game mode.

>>460400724
x3d is king in unity games. It's not even funny. I literally upgraded from a 5800X to a 5800X3d, benchmarked the difference and was still not feeling like I wasted money.

>>460403415
Not everyone can afford the super gigawatt PC; and if you ever stop caring about optimization you get to the point where you just saturate your new specs and it becomes a laggy mess again. Smooth frame rates are so nice but people are just simply not used to it.

>>460404002
it's ok, we'll just be given dlss2 frame generation for the dlss frame generation making more frames from already made up frames just to keep it smooth

>>460404240
I think we should just not bother rendering games at all and just have AI generate what the next frame of a good game would look like and just play that game instead

>>460403787
I've played almost exclusively arms race back when I played CS

>>460404631
Pavlov's gun game is okay but we don't play it; the CS mode is pretty much all we play regularly if you're wondering about getting value for money. I enjoy it a lot and I'm there as much as I can.

>>460404720
Why are the birds estonian

>>460404307
You jest but this is most likely the future of vidya if AI keeps the exponential growth. Give it some presets for consistency and then a text AI stores all info, does the physics calculations, controls the NPCs and a text-to-video AI generates the frame. If they mange to crack text-to-video it would be just an optimization problem.

>>460402739
It does have higher image quality if the stars align. What sucks about streaming via cable is that the pico software doesn't have an encode resolution that's as good as virtual desktop, and fucking virtual desktop doesn't support usb-c streaming.
There's a workaround where you get a ethernet to usb-c adapter like https://www.amazon.de/-/en/USB-Ethernet-Adapter-Gigabit-Thunderbolt-gray/dp/B09MQDWP6H with a usb-pd port but I've bought like 4 different one and they all crap on me, or the network chip is shit, or the usb-c cable i'm using isn't compatible.
If you just want to try things out then get a quest 2 for 200 yuros and connect via usb-c and use the Oculus debug tool to pump the bitrate to 900mbit/s. If you like VR then you can upgrade to a Quest 3 which has the same lenses as a Pico 4.

>>460405138
When we get AI generated games is when I stop being a human being and just sit inside playing infinite games all day.

>>460404720
someone get those crayons away from that booth's hair

>>460405484
You know, would.

>>460405484
cute boy

>>460405484
The /trash/ thread is 3 doors down buddy

>>460405484
>>460406364
Sir this isn't Twitter

>>460337139
Turn off force grab or whatever it is called in the options. The problem then becomes that shit will keep sticking to your hands. The Index controllers are simply terrible.

The quest is actually a solid piece of hardware and I'm tired of pretending it isn't

>>460399638
pico 4 has some sort of glare as well when its booting up and showing a bright white logo on full black background, but in most games i cant say i ever notice it.

>>460407057
No! your billionaire is evil! my billionaire is pure and just!

>>460407057
it always was
Zucc is just a colossal faggot

>>460407546
I think he's a cute dork.

>>460399638
It's a pancake lens thing. I own two different pancake headsets that arent Q3 and they both have the pancake glare.

>>460407775
I've never had that glare despite owning a quest 3, weird

>>460405148
>ethernet to usb-c
dios mio...
>pump the bitrate to 900mbit/s
how does it compare to the pico4 with that tweak?
also anybody got experience with the bobovr strap for the p4?

>>460408481
Meta has the best lenses in the business, the glare isnt super noticeable for me on qpro but its there if you look for it

>buy better facial interface for the pico4
>the material's comfier but the bracket it thinner so the lens housing cuts off air in my nose entirely
sigh, back to the factory one I guess

>>460256692 (OP)
valve sisters it's really over isn't?

>>460410283
i bought mine in mid 2022 when people said it was a waste
still happy with it 1.5 years later

in other news....
>cloudflare

>>460409943
We'll never get the perfect hmd it's so fucking over

>>460406638
>>460337139
Actually, I just decided to see if I can fix this.
>delete both existing grip actions
>replace them with grip_axis
>click the gear icon
>set grab threshold to a small amount of force
>set release threshold to a high proximity
>repeat for other controller
This won't grab anything unless you squeeze slightly, won't require any force to stay in your hand, and will drop as soon as you let go.

>>460410283
Don't care, I'm not spending 1370€ (+150€ for audio) on a Beyond.

>>460410283
don't care, still enjoy the index I bought last year
>>460410441
>cloudflare
yeah, when that change?

>>460410826
sometime today/yesterday since i was posting last night and never had it once
at least its not every time you post, hopefully it will stop spambots though i highly doubt any real dent will be made

Could you use Full boy tracking as a poor mans mocap solution for a hobby project?

>>460411783
Yes, they use vive trackers sometimes as a cheap mocap on low-budget movie sets.

>>460411783
Sure, why not? It's just tracker positions, pair it with some IK, add more trackers, and it should be fairly reliable. It's crazy easy to set up an unity project that reads and saves tracker positions, and then you could even fix any tracker position errors in postprocess, i imagine. No idea what kind of data "proper" mocap software needs, but I'm sure output from those tracker positions can be somehow manipulated into the exact data you need

from now onwards, i consider 'full boy trakcing' as a valid name for fbt, except more gay. kind of a sequel to vrboysmell

>>460412178
>full boy tracking
that wasnt even intentional

>>460405484
Oh my fucking god WHO

>>460365951
Hardware(+software associated to make it work) is a fuckton harder than people give credit for. If it can't handle the Index then no goddamn way it'll work with the Beyond.

This looks like an utter trainwreck.

Alright motherfuckers it is that time of the week again! That is what I normally say, and will say for the last time for the foreseeable future. Doing workshop has been great: pushing people to participate in events, teaching, watching other teach, learning niche shit no video ever explains, fighting people over the definition of vore and cannibalism, it was truly an experience. With how busy life has to be, I won't be able to host it Wednesdays, and with the state of /vrg/ and the onset of 1 hour booth outfit swaps, energy just isn't the same anymore, I can't rev up and ask people to sit down all day for that kind of thing anymore. Shit needs to change, random work jams for a random stretch of time and day vs a defined one entire day is the way to go, might still just happen on Wednesdays too.

Place will still be around, people will show, just not going to be posted about, the habit of making these post and the collages is spent. I got what I wanted, people interested in helping others, and that atmosphere has been installed everywhere.

Bit of this comes from my desire to get the fuck off the internet and build a life. The calling to improve has grown deafening and I cannot ignore it any longer. That is going to require huge gaps of being away. If I like the way my life functions away from all this, I'll pursue that, if I want to do both, that works too. We'll see.

DM *or reply* to Dal290, the shopman for the last 5 years, if you want to bitch, say your pitch, or want me in a ditch.
https://imgbox.com/g/PmsQhLbt6f

>>460405484
No personality? Bad at clothing? Just add more ACCESSORIES

>>460410283
Valve just made a headset that was so good it took 5 years for better headsets to come out

>>460411783
Absolutely yes. People have made amateur movies in VRC, and there are some programs you can use to record your movement as an animation


>>460412178
>full boy tracking
I need full boy tracking

>>460414647
Yep. More tattoos, more sparkly bits, more accessories, more glow and highlight, and whoop now you have a personality. If only.

>>460405484
/vrg/ will really simp for shit like this and pretend their taste isn't TDA tier.

>>460415087
I'd fuck it but that's all. I'd talk to them a bit in the aftercare to see if they have a personality but I'm not holding my breath.

>>460410283
In that case, what is "worth it"? Obviously quest 3 is worth it in its price range, but what is worth it in premium bracket/lighthouse ecosystem?

it's less of a counter-argument and more of a question. I'm fairly convinced that index remains as the best bundle, even though it's obviously ridiculously overpriced in 2024, and every time I see a new headset drop, people mention how it has worse fov, worse sweet spot, worse this, worse that. But I wonder, what would be the closest thing to a direct upgrade from index HMD? Beyond?

>>460415290
Quest pro seems like the best overall upgrade desu. Beyond seems like a kinda pricey risky sidegrade, Varjo Aero gets an honorable mention but lacks its own audio even though everything else is fine (seriously plop index audio on the varjo aero and it'd be probably a no-brainer.).
And everything else? Quest 3? Maybe I guess.
You're leaving the lighthouse system most likely regardless. I mean, unless you just shove another tracker on the headset like a chad.

>>460415290
The Beyond would be the spendy lighthouse headset to go for right now. Brad recommends it over the Index.

>>460415858
I'd take a Quest pro with a tracker glued to it desu

>>460372195
Sauce

>>460415996
Space Calibrator is really janky. You have the performance overhead and image quality degradation that comes with streaming too. Having gone back and forth between the Beyond and Quest Pro a lot, I really prefer the Beyond especially for longer sessions. The bad microphone and comfort on the Pro hurt it a lot for me.

>>460416642
I also have a Beyond/QPro that I go back and forth between and prefer my Beyond most of the time. Too many little issues and annoyances keep adding up with the Quest Pro.

>>460417576
qpro is only good for vrchat. beyond is good for anything that needs wired latency

My asshole is hungry

>>460417948
hello? fellow analvore chad?

Is there a single-braid hair on booth? I only saw two different two-braid ones. I feel like it has to exist and I'm probably missing some gook keywords.

>>460415290
Beyond feels like the closest to a direct upgrade, but it has drawbacks that I don't think are worth it.
I'm more interested in a cheap Quest Pro at this point, but it's hard to justify spending money on either since they both seem like sidegrades.

>>460391206
Radical!

>>460417948
you are in the wrong department man
the department you are actually looking for is on one of the sub-floors and not in most of the signage in this building
gotta get out of this room, then walk yourself out of the video game general department, large department, follow the signage towards the lobby area
once you are in the lobby, take the service elevator down to maintenance as they share space with the garbage pickup
you'll know you're there when you see a large group of people around those garbage bins
you're looking for the ones who are being overly gay and dramatic, but might be hard to distinguish from all the groups chatting there

>>460415290
It's subjective value for money which is going to depend on your budget and specific interests in VR.
The only things people can generally agree on is that there's no true successor to the Index yet and that the lack of a price reduction hurts the Index's value compared to other headsets.

>>460419954
I tell people that they shouldn't expect it to get cheaper if it's no cheaper to make.

You guys have been more helpful than google so far so I come with another VRC avatar quesiton.

I exported FBX, tweaked it in Blender to where I wanted, and now trying to move it back into Unity I'm struggling. Can I not just replace the FBX on my existing model? No way am I starting from scratch with menus, gestures, physics etc

>>460420472
https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Avatar_Hypertutorial#Iterating_and_fixing_scuff

A common question, check the resource there

>>460420472
get pumpkin tools for unity and you can copy all your avatar components from a previous version. ez as drag and drop

https://github.com/rurre/PumkinsAvatarTools

If I have a quest 3 and get vive trackers, how many trackers do I need? I heard I need an extra one for the helmet since it drifts a lot

>>460421495
4. You'll need two lighthouses too. That's a lot of money.
For less money, homemade slimes are a serious contender; they don't have the same tracking quality and they require work to get working well, but they're cheap.

>>460418390
it definitely exists. If you do give up you can also try making your own in vroid

>>460421750
Would Haritorax be a good alternative to slime trackers? The only reason I'm hesitant to getting something without a base is that I heard you basically need to recalibrate all the time which I really don't want to do. Getting the vive trackers with the base would cost me about 1k while getting Hari's would be about 400~. Slime would be cheaper but would be at minimum a 3~ month wait I assume

>>460418390
https://booth.pm/en/browse/3D%20Models?tags%5B%5D=%E4%B8%89%E3%81%A4%E7%B7%A8%E3%81%BF

>>460422174
>Would Haritorax be a good alternative to slime trackers?
Old man B got them if I remember correctly, you can ask him about it probably.
There's also the vive ultimate trackers which will get pcvr support for a cost about ~600, but like normal lighthouse trackers you will still need to align playspaces.
If price is a problem, you can also try to build your own slime trackers and get them for cheap now

>>460422223
Saw what I was looking for, thanks a bunch kind stranger

>>460422174
NTA but I have haritorax trackers. They're good for the price and ship incredibly quickly, considering slimes don't ship until March. They do drift yeah, particularly while laying down I've noticed. The recalibration process is just mashing a controller trigger while standing straight so it's not a big deal, I just recalibrate when going from laying down to standing or vice versa and that's usually more than often enough. One advantage though is that you can put them under clothes, or a blanket, etc. and not lose tracking which is pretty comfy.

>>460421495
I'd recomend waiting a bit and looking at Vive Ultimate Trackers. PC software should come out in january, wait for reviews, and decide. They've been working to include quest vr universe drifting prevention. And you'll get good straps with them too.

do you guys automatically block people under 18 in vrc? i feel like im in a danger-zone, i was chatting with someone all through christmas/new years (non sexually but flirty) and they just dropped their age being way under 18. apparently they lied about it at first because lot of people block <18's

>>460423797
yes, underage people are not allowed on this website and in meetups.

>>460423797
Yes, I'm not a groomer and when someone sounds young I always ask them their age. If they say 18-20 it's a yellow flag for me

>>460423797
Yeah, there is no reason for adults to befriend or interact with children.

>>460423797
I'm not blocking anyone, but I guess i'm saved by being 30 and simply not finding too many common topics or lines of thinking with teenagers. Young people tend to be rather obviously all over the place, easy to be wary of, easy to avoid. That being said, if I'd meet an underage on 4chin instance and I'd know for sure he's underage, I'd be willing to block because it seems like a ticking time bomb to me - from drama to actual potential law issues that could graze someone even when you're a bystander.

i'm also not erping around, so it's not like i'll be responsible for any kind of unholy stuff towards people i get to know

>>460423797
yes. also I check every flag when I upload an avatar regardless of content, and block e-boys on sight

>>460423797
I don't block them, but I also never leave instances where they're banned. I realise kids lie about their age a lot so if I suspect shit I steer the conversation to work, life, family. Kids have no idea how to talk about these things in an adult way.

>>460423797
>i was chatting with someone all through christmas/new years (non sexually but flirty)
bro

>>460424954
>but I guess i'm saved by being 30
Aren't you a little young to be here?

>>460423797
For /vrg/ I block anyone suspected of being underage. Don't care about proof or unblocking them when they turn 18 because anyone around that age is a zoomer drama magnet anyway.
In solo exploring or public game worlds I'll talk to any under-18s if it's about the map or VR in general. Difficult to have any more meaningful conversation than that when there's a 15-20 year age gap.

If I go from a quest 2 to quest 3/quest pro and ultimate trackers, is that fine?

>>460428784
wait for ultimate tracker PC software and reviews

>>460428784
We need to wait and see how the software support for ultimate trackers are. Could end up being utter dogshit but the jump from quest 2 to quest 3 was fucking game changing for me personally

I hate steamVR bindings so much.

>>460423797
what are they gonna do, virtually lock me up?

>>460427101
>15-20 year age gap
me and this whole community...

>>460429229
>but the jump from quest 2 to quest 3 was fucking game changing for me personally
care to elaborate?

>>460293297
>this child
So a kid got on and some pedos tried to do some weird pedo shit is what im getting from this if its even real.

>>460429886
it's okay yuru. you're still young at heart

>>460429992
The quest 2's sweet spot was unbearably narrow. Literally had to be in a very specific location otherwise everything would be blurry and any white text I saw had horrific godrays. With the quest 3 I have zero godray issues and the sweet spot is very, very comfortable that I never have to think about it as long as my headset is remotely on properly

>>460293297
>>460423797
>>460430453
Block them, even if you aren't doing anything wrong a guardian can step in and twist everything and the next thing you know your life will be destroyed.

Where can I find a list of all the non vr games with fully working vr mods?

>>460293297
Personally, I would've taken off the headset,

>>460431629
>Afk body gets molested immediately

>>460431339
this discord is the best hup for all flat to VR mods
https://discord.com/invite/JGMBC6Mh

>>460430948
dont deadname mom.... shes Youbu now.........

>>460293297
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ-Md56jK9Y

sounds like someone needs to go back to the dum dum factory

>>460434761
This is what it's like talking to moub

Since /t/ is dead, where is the VRporn general?

>>460435869
/trash/

>>460410283
>LCD
no

>want to get a mature looking male avatar
>literally nothing but fuck boys, e-boys, and femboys
This is suffering - am I going to need to learn blender and make my own?

>>460430948
Don't worry, I know I am!

>>460436148
Thanks but thats ERP. I just want to pirate CosplayVR videos

>>460436169
vrchat is for troons and furries only

>>460436770
don't forget ape-tag and 13 year old kids

>>460434137
As much as I dislike moub I think his models look way nicer than yurus

>>460436169
There's some options that you can start with, but you're gonna have zero clothing support so you'll have to learn blender to make clothing yourself if something like generic anime male like the Minase, Rio, or Maki doesn't work for you.

https://t8dbcau.booth.pm/ does pretty good anime father figure level guys, but if you're looking for even older, you can scroll down to the イケおじ系アバター section on the guy list https://note.com/halmond/n/n650e0844fae7

>>460437740
>oh man this one fits me really well
>I wonder how much the-
>¥ 38,600

don't worry guys, lavender is right around the corner
better buy now that its cheap am I right?

>>460438329
You are morally in the right to pirate YYM's stuff, since I assume that's who you're talking about.

What's the best flying game for a first timer? I bought Flight Sim to give it a try, but I was nearing the refund timer and the installer wasn't even finished yet. I'd like to try Ace Combat 7 with the new UEVR mod, but it gets a bad compatibility rating.

>>460438418
Is there a centralized place to find those models?

>>460431339
Off the top of my head:
Doom 1/2 + Heretic + Hexen
Doom 3
Quake 1
Quake 2 (PCVR abandoned, standalone looks good)
Quake 3 Arena (standalone only)
Quake 4 (standalone only)
Return to Castle Wolfenstein (standalone only)
Jedi Outcast
Jedi Academy
Duke Nukem 3D (standalone only)
Shadow Warrior (standalone only)
Blood (standalone only)
Outer Wilds
Half-Life (the one for PCVR sucks, standalone one is good)
Half-Life 2 + episodes
Gmod
Portal 2
Left 4 Dead 2 (don't join a VAC server or you will get banned)
GTFO
Alien Isolation (no hand controls)
GTA V
Deep Rock Galactic
Risk of Rain 2
Valheim
Ultrakill
Cruelty Squad
Resident Evil 2 Remake
Resident Evil 3 Remake
Resident Evil 7
Resident Evil 8

Plus a lot of new games thanks to UEVR

>Join VRChat
>Feel older even when I already feel old just being online
Such is your fate when you hit your 30s.

Where the fuck do all the 25+ non-spergs hang out?

>>460438667
>Where the fuck do all the 25+ non-spergs hang out?
Here

>>460438329
>>460437740
>>460436169
Imagine paying for a model that I hide and mute the second you load in.
Just get a booth girl like everyone else or get used to nobody wanting to talk to you

>>460438821
I don't care who you are, L + Ratio bozo

>>460438546
What level of realism do you want, and what level of flight games have you played before? VTOL VR is great and I strongly recommend it, but it's a reasonably realistic game which means that you only carry a limited number of munitions and most fights are going to be you slinging ordinance at something that you never see while the flying part is gonna be suffering if you don't have a vague understanding of what's going on from things like Ace Combat on flat.

>>460438572
There used to be a Discord, and maybe there is a new one, but I use the ripperstore forums at the moment.

>>460438347
lmao
I really dont understand what the fuck the point is of June continuing to work on this game. the game already failed, it has an abhorrent reputation as a scam so no one will want to come back. its a sandbox game that relies on having a community and there is no community.
just refund people and move on.

>>460391206
game?
or tech demo?
idk this looks like it has potential to be fun
Skate 4 in vr?

>>460365951
Wigi chads keep winning for wireless.

>>460393232
watching cringe community content makes me forget about the horror of reality even if brief
ill never participate in pypy but i hope it keeps going even if the host leaves

>>460438602
What does standalone mean in this context?
>>460439194
I don't really care about the level of realism, and I don't really care if there's combat. I have little to no experience with flight games though, so it's probably best I don't start with a serious sim. I do have very strong VR legs though.

>>460439261
when VRchat starts implementing its own version of toxmod where will you go?

>>460438546
Flight Sim is very casual fun but better have 500GB set aside because you will go down the dark path of modding.
IL-2 is really fun if you want combat, not super realistic but not super arcade either, plenty of live servers to play on.
If you want more reelism then X-Plane 11 is just more hardcore Flight Sim.
If you want more reelism but combat then DCS with full fidelity plane of choice.
If F-16 autist then Falcon 4.0 with BMS mod is the definite F-16 autism.
Flight Sim and IL-2 are probably the best entry points.
Also play Project Wingman.