/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1890

Complacency is death

Doing a music double feature tonight for NA anime movie night. We'll be watching Aki no Kanade and On-Gaku starting at 10PM ET (in ~18h). I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

The liminal pool collection grows

>>570784617
this one was already on my list :3 comfy if a bit mono

Casual SEA mahjong is up:
https://vrch.at/5bnt38z8

>>570784802
these always start one hour too late for my NA ass to slip into

Can't shoot open every door.

>>570784201 (OP)
>>570784416
Was a fun experience, although feels like you'd have to full on larp to get the most out of it, but if you'd do that wouldn't ready or not be the better game for it?

>>570784894
Sir that is why it is SEA mahjong.

>>570785428
but
but

Who wanted to play ITR2 coop? I can play for the next 2h if you're around.

>>570784802
this video unironically feels comforting. i request sauce with sound if someone has it.
it calms me down.

https://streamable.com/4qibx

>>570784802
need world

How much do LLMs know about udon scripting?
I, unfortunately, don't want to go back to the dark ages of reading documentation. I know C# pretty well for unity, but not what udon can and cant do.

https://streamable.com/pn1ek

PLEASE STOP WITH THE NOSTALGIA BAIT I WANT TO KILL MYSELF EVERY DAY FOR MISSING OUT ON THE GOLDEN YEARS

https://streamable.com/lfhtw

>>570789539
MMMOOOOOOOOODSSSSSSS

>>570789539
diddy~~~

MR ADVERTISER GET DOWN

I need the seven seven fingers, but i dont wanna pay.

>>570789990
sorry no gaijin allowed

>>570788545
Classic

>>570789990
white pig go home

>>570756681 (Cross-thread)
>Social anxiety
What social anxiety do you feel when playing HL:A?

>>570788545
What impresses me the most is that there is no sight of sexpests like 0cake in that video. And if they are, they do not wear their ERP avatar. Fuck, even Kuiwa knew how to behave back then.
Truly, classic video of a better time.

>>570791134
>he doesn't know
lmao

I will get a lot of use out of this in the next month. Lots of poor questies going to have a lot of sour grapes it ignore.

>>570791134
yeah, none at all, it was never a thing until recently. this gif is completely unrelated and there was no one in the history of vrg who could possibly be related to this gif in any way or form

>>570789990
Good luck, have fun

>>570789990
report the world

>>570792437
Rape this cluswing

>>570792437
Please don't post things like this.

>>570327960 (Cross-thread)
:: /vrg/ SCHOOL FESTIVAL | July 18 ::

What is this?
A celebration of anon’s varied groups and activities.
For one day /vrg/ turns into a full blown school festival, with rooms, booths, attractions and little corners of chaos all hosted by the different groups and friend circles around the community.

Come wander the grounds and visit what anons have cooked up.
Games, exhibits, hangouts, performances, themed rooms, comfy spots, weird ideas, good ideas, dumb ideas made real.
The whole point is to let every part of /vrg/ show its face and make something fun for everyone else to enjoy.

If you’ve ever wanted to host something, decorate a room, run a booth, make a club attraction, show off your group’s gimmick or just contribute to the general festival atmosphere, this is the event for it.
Big or tiny projects, polished or scuffed projects, they all have a place in a school festival.

This is both a social event and a showcase.
A chance to see what all the different corners of /vrg/ are up to, meet people you don’t normally bump into and enjoy an entire map full of anon-made activities all in one place.

Specially if you are currently or have hosted weekly/monthly/occasional events before and currently!
COME AND SHILL, Grow your club, Entice another anon to try what you love doing!

I will distribute 3 template types:
1) Classroom (2x1, 3x1, 2x2, 3x2, 4x2, 7x1 sizes)
2) Outside Booth (more freeform size)
3) Gymnasium (single toggle)
You'll be free to decorate within these templates:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6yxkh2lm7l3cq/SOS_Festival
World making tutorial
>>491710303 (Cross-thread)

Roadmap:
Apr 30 - Coordination Sign Ups
May 15 - Room Ideation Plans
May 30 - Room 1st Draft
June 14 - Room 2nd Draft
June 28 - Room Final
July 11 - Final Testing
July 18 - /vrg/ SCHOOL FESTIVAL

When?
EU - 19:00 UTC
NA - 11:00 PM EST

Get your School Uniform by A here!
>>567928328 (Cross-thread)
https://files.catbox.moe/i0b1bf.7z

>>570791520
hey now this looks kind of familiar

What happened to ThrillSeeker and The Virtual Reality Show?

>>570792437
Rape this 'wing

>>570791134
Back then everyone had the mentality of lewd stuff should be behind closed doors. A lot of oldfags are still like that when it comes that stuff. Though some of them and, of course newfags, are more explicit these days as can see/mentioned

>>570788545
>dot loves you
i'm rightfully terrified

>>570792437
The raped(future tense)

>>570791134
>They dont know

>>570793248
>Forced to wear uniform
>Can't wear anything over it due to clipping
Just like real life fuak

>>570794214
Virtual cybersex wasn't a thing until booth bases and DPS came out. Fags back then would just pet each other a bit too much and act cute.

>>570796283
I've already seen some people wear stuff over it with some blender know how

Or use Meshia unity script

Lets say I can't wait for the frame or it's delayed for a year and I need a new headset because the one I currently have (Index) is falling apart. Should I
>get another index full kit for ~$400
or
>get a quest pro, extra tracker to use fbt, and router for ~$600

>>570796364
Back then there was a lot of models that were rips from CM3D2, featuring fully modeled female reporductive systems.

>>570796364
>Virtual cybersex wasn't a thing until booth bases and DPS came out
lol lmao ex dee

>>570796415
Bro the frame is getting price reveal on the 23rd. You can wait.

do you have your summer outfits done, /vrg/?
>fit bikini
>two weeks later a new one i like a bit more drops
i'll use it for 2027 i guess...

>>570796651
slut

>>570796651
Sexxxxy and yes I do have my summer outfit but it's stale and I'm too busy to make a new one lol

>>570796914
Why do you have a block of cheese on your waist?

>>570796975
emergency crack brick please understand

>>570796975
It's for the rat anons when they get hungry I have to chip some off for them

Forgot to post this on the weekend

>>570796364
Holy newfag

>>570796364
>Fags back then would just pet each other a bit too much and act cute.
We need more of those

>>570796364
>he wasn't invited

>>570797274
She looks POWERFUL

>>570796739
if you're mean to me i'll cry and beat you up at the same time
>>570796914
i like the visor
blue and orange is always a nice combo

>>570796364
i'm curious about your thought process when you were typing this. you know you're most likely a newfag with no real knowledge, you obviously didn't live through the experiences you're trying to describe, you clearly can't remember how the most discussed problem around 2018 was that every instance would slowly evaporate as people leave to lewd. so, what exactly made you type this post, fully knowing you won't exactly look very smart once you do that?

>>570798461
Lets not get started into the VRsocks epidemic either

Death to fags

vrg was always le heckin wholesome until /trash/ was a thing. all the lewd posts, which we should have a 0 tolerance policy on, was never a thing until recently

>>570796651
ya

Who made the first post on /trash/ and why? They're the person who started the avalanche.

>>570799291
It was created for the demand for it. You're not going to have like ohh it's one person who started it, it's going to be more like people were lewding a lot and being horny retards and wanted somewhere to talk about it that wasn't the blue board.

>>570796364
>He doesnt know about the invisible chair for 3 pointer sex in NepBAR

>>570799453
NepBAR
Now that's a world I have never heard in ages

>>570796914
Why cant booth models zip up heir shorts?

>>570799291
Trash threads were created to discuss nsfw stuff without disrupting the thread because people who wanted to have a decent nsfw-related discussion were shitposted to death, and this isn't the right place to do that either. It was a great idea.

Assuming the Frame is actually around $1000, is there anything better in the same price range?

>>570800243
save for swan

>>570800243
no

>>570800278
>$2000 XR headset
>same price range

>>570791221
enjoy your flat game projector

What is "XR" headset and how does it make it worse? Will it notnrun steamlink?

>>570801047
It's just a marketing term. It kind of loosely means that it'll be deisgned for 'XR' applications, so a lighter headset, likely compute or battery put off the headset, less FOV, less of a focus on light blocking, standalone 100%, and probably very high resolution.
The AVP, galaxy XR are existing 'XR' headsets. They're almost good as VR headsets because their technical specs are impressive.
Basically an Apple Vision Pro clone.

>>570796364
I didn't realize that the PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dudes were using dps and booths

Chances the Frame costs more than $900? If it does, I'm just going to pick up a Questpro instead

>>570802423
>Chances the Frame costs more than $900?
100%

>If it does, I'm just going to pick up a Questpro instead
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>570802475
I mean, I could get a Quest pro for $300-400 easily. Is the Frame worth double the price?

>>570802138
So, a headset which fixes AVP problems? Apple closed garden and super heavy glass front? How is this bad?
Low fov seems troublesome though

>>570802609
It's more like the quest pro is something you'll regret getting and end up getting a frame anyway.

>>570802423
Aye I've been extremely satisfied by my Quest Pro that I even have a backup one in case the first one dies.

>>570802680
>How is this bad?
It's not actually, the upcoming Pico Swan is looking to actually be pretty good and a major competitor. XR isn't bad by itself, but companies copying the AVP usually also copy what made the AVP shitty for VR.

>>570784802
Thanks for coming, everyone

>>570803181
grim

>>570803346

>>570802823
Pico has now a pretty good experience in HMD making, hopefully it will be useable.

Imagine pico 4 ultra with eye tracking, it would litterally be steam frame.

>>570803540
pico 4 ultra with eye tracking with valve RMA

>Frame has micro sd slot
So basically no reason not to just get the smallest storage version, right?

>>570803674
Yeah not really. For me I'm seeing it as probably the last VR headset so I'm just getting the 1tb model.

>>570803807
For what purpose? You're not going to rung games on it, are you?

>>570803882
It's not storage for the next 2 years it's storage for the next 8

>>570804190
What do you need the extra storage for that you can't put on the SD card?

>>570804190
unless you're planning on using it as an external SSD, I don't see the point if you aren't going to use it for standalone
I'm never going to, so I'm getting the smallest model
If I somehow do, it will be to show family VR and be two games tops

I suffer as a space sim enjoyer

>>570802685
ive not regretted my quest pro once so far, i dont get why people shittalk it so much its the best headset ive used and it seems like itll still be better than the frame when it comes out

>>570802685
But I have a Quest Pro, an Index, and Quest 3 and will get a Frame.

does the ps vr2 work on linux yet?

>>570806157
use case?

>>570806401
OLED

>>570806157
only if you have index controllers

>>570806093
Cope
Qpro is insanely better than reverb g2

>>570806471
closed for duplicate

>>570803181
OIOI LADDIES THERE'S SOME MILK ON THE HORIZON

>>570784201 (OP)
/vrg/ footie vod from last Friday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkAATpgeuzo

Final scheduled match of the group stage on Sunday, June 21st @ 17:40pm UTC/1:40pm EDT vs /trick/

>>570796364
dunning-kruger ass post

New kino just released
https://youtu.be/H_VyqBNpjh0

Hi, boredom tea will be at 18:15CEST (in ~2h)
> What?
An instance where people are encouraged to join for a cup of tea and eventual snacks if they fancy it. The instance will be closed after 1h
Likely in a simple room with a table and a video player
> Why?
To share relaxing time before bigger instances and after work. With a focus on things having to stay calm and simple. Making it time limited to ensure it is meant to be an in-between time rather than something big. For that reason it will be posted in the thread but as invite+

Framebros... I'm thinking about buying a BSB2...

>>570811091
Not the worst choice, do get the eyetracked version though.

>>570811091
2 weeks before the frame?

It's most likely coming on 22nd or 23rd.
We know reviewers have both the machine and frame in their hands (here you have a user submitted geekbench steam machine score https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/18366182)
That means depending on when they started first receiving them we are like 1 or 2 weeks away.

Also i remember some anon asking whether the frame controllers have steaminput and yes! They do! It was just recently added to a steamvr beta branch

>>570811154
>>570811515
The complaints I've heard about it are stopping me from pulling the trigger. I want OLED but the Frame sounds like an overall better package.

>>570811091
Fell for it again award.

>>570811595
See >>570811551

>>570811551
After listening to my friends complain about BSB not being the way they imagined usually, all the horror stories with dead pixels on arrival and so on and so on I realized I just want something that will work and will work well.
My Q3 keeps annoying me and I can't wait to change it.

>>570796651
what's the avatar on the right

>>570811779
How does it annoy you? The frame isn't THAT much different so the problems might overlap.

The BSB2 after some mods and third party stuff isn't too bad if you already have lighthouses and index controllers. I managed not to get a lemon and I'm disliking it less daily and I still am one of its biggest haters. It's also becoming a better value every time the price of other vr shit ratchets up but the headset stays the same $1000/1200

>>570812093
I believe they call that stockholm syndrome

>>570811779
>new headset release
>with completely new production lines
>with difficulty to get components
>with completely new OS
>expecting it to somehow be hassle-free
anon...

>>570812093
>bitemod

>>570812093
Anon, disliking it less and less is called coping

>own a quest 3
>somehow justifying buying a headset that is overall a sidegrade

>>570812647
The frame is definitely an upgrade. Pretending it isn't is cope.
What it isn't is $1000 of upgrade.

>>570811982
The sticks started drifting on mine very very early, after roughly 2 months of use
The software updates for a long time kept on messing with my muscle memory when trying to launch VD
The playspace seems to drift and rotate itself every couple of days or so, I end up needing to redraw the borders again after a few days
The tracking on the controllers is atrocious in random situations
The default headstrap caused me harsh headaches for a long time, so like everyone else I had to get a 3rd party strap

>>570812426
I don't expect it to be perfect, I'm willing to be a test subject, but I was expecting the Q3 to be perfect when it comes to me because I got one way way after the release

>>570813018
I can't speak for software reliability but the physical issues have been ironed out.

>>570800309
Frame will be $1200+ for LCD quest sidegrade
sell it for double price on bay to fund your Swan!

been feeling too lazy to throw on fullbody since its so comfy under my blanket recently, found a prefab from the avatar museum and said lmao fuck it sure its better than 3point dinosaur arm standing

>>570805514
>its the best headset ive used
my condolences

>>570806157
https://wiki.vronlinux.org/docs/hardware/psvr2/

>>570811779
>My Q3 keeps annoying me and I can't wait to change it.
>man with quest 3 can't wait to buy quest 3.5 for 3x the price
many such cases

>>570813963
in just 2 weeks i will be able to blink my eyes at you smugly as i use my steam controller to track my pissing dick on your knee while maintaining eye contact

>>570814268
Actually now that I think about it, three steam controllers could be used as FBT trackers. You'd probably want to do something like.. make something lighter and smaller... like a pico tracker for frame..

I unironically think someone will make pico trackers for frame by combining slime IMUs with LEDs and get that working in like 4 months

>>570814268
>i will be able to blink
you're assuming the furries who can barely make software for Windows with C#slop that takes ages to boot up are going to be ready for their software to run on ARM Linux natively without crushing your weaker-than-deck CPU and send that data over OSC to VRChat via the double-sloppa-stack that is Baballonia+VRCFT

>>570814268
Steam Frame has no blinking, no eye dillation, no eyebrow tracking, it cant even track the gaze of two eyes seperately, do you cant even crosseye ahegao. It only has an aproximate gaze direction from both eyes as one vector.

>>570814414
>three steam controllers could be used as FBT trackers
you do realize you have to be LOOKING at them to track them, right?

>>570814494
The camera feed is available to users of the device, and babble have had a dev kit since november.

>>570814570
If you put in an IMU the looking can just act as anchoring.

>>570814494
>>570814483

we don't exactly yet know how all of that works in practice and since its a PC you have unrestricted camera access, the only thing it will be missing is eyebrow tracking most likely
and yes, the baballonia tracking isnt as good as qpro but oh well, at least it still is there

>>570814494
>Crosseye ahegao
Fuck I need this

>>570814690
the Steam Controller's only tracking point for the Frame is a singular IR LED

>>570814414
Zabka tracker

https://triki.zabka.pl/
https://github.com/Piwencjusz/zabka-triki-hardware
https://github.com/AND-Y0/TrikiReader

>>570814728
what I can tell you is that the Baballonia and VRCFT devs aren't very good
and their software has yet to run on ARM Linux, let alone work flawlessly on Linux itself because their focus is Windows

>>570814598
>>570814728
>The camera feed is available to users of the device

Doca dont say anything about that, we have no idea if its exposed in the user land, or if we can access it when main tracking program locks the access uniquely.

>>570814940
It was in a tweet or something

>inb4 tracking cameras dont reach the Linux portion of the device and all tracking is really done in some dedicated coprocessor, which we cant get access to

>>570815216
find it

>>570814867
well the good thing is you could just stream the camera feed wirelessly to a windows PC then like you do with DIY FT anyways

>>570814940
>we have no idea if its exposed in the user land
we already do know there is no controller specifically for eye tracking or anything like that
so that means that the only thing that the only way we wouldn't have access to the camera feed is if the drivers specifically don't output it
im very sure people would quickly just write a driver patch or a replacement that exposes it
>if we can access it when main tracking program locks the access uniquely
a file can be read by many programs at the same time, it's no issue, it'd be stupid to design it in a way where read permissions are enabled exclusively for their firmware

>>570815407
>A file can be read
And linux has no issues at all when multiple applications try to access the same usb camera, am I right? Lol. I don't expect it to be easy.

>>570815407
>well the good thing is you could just stream the camera feed wirelessly to a windows PC then like you do with DIY FT anyways
mmm yes lets destroy the latency benefits we're trying to get with the device from day 0!
epic idea
what's actually going to happen is the furries will attempt to slop together the stack to run on the HMD itself and then send that OSC data to VRChat remotely
anything else is beyond retarded

I hope the Frame's speakers are decent

>>570815880
they won't be as good as Index BMRs
that's why Valve hinted at probably doing a rigid strap accessory later to swap that setup out

>>570814750
>a fucking bottle cap

>>570815956
>that's why Valve hinted at probably doing a rigid strap accessory later to swap that setup out
when did they ever say this

>>570815724
the camera feed of this type internally is just a file usually, literal jpeg or png in there that gets overwritten many times a second

>>570815756
no benefits are really lost since a little bit of latency isn't that bad for social vr that you won't be looking at yourself much anyways, you wont be using the same data for anything else
i dabbled with diy ft before and beaming a camera feed on a local network from the frame really would be very simple
the latency wouldn't be high at all either, it's not very high res or anything and my little raspberry could do that with much much less power

>>570814750
Got any of this in English?

>>570816057
A bottle cap with IMU, battery, Bluetooth controller.
No, how big are the slimes? Polish shop random promotional item is a better slime imu tracker than anything they produced. Hopefully available cheaply on aliexpress soon and someone vibecodes a slime server plugin.

>>570816127
basically hinted during several interviews back when they had press test the HMD for 5 minutes

>>570816162
>the slopwall
sure thing bucko, enjoy the shitty experience lol

>>570816162
>the camera feed of this type internally is just a file usually, literal jpeg or png in there that gets overwritten many times a second

Wrong, so fucking wrong.

>>570816213
Use built in firefox translator. This is a unique polish shop promotional item, there is no much info about it outside polish circles

>>570816242
find it

>>570816509
Adam savage's interview had it in when he was talking to the woman

>>570816423
im willing to bet 5 bucks it's gonna be under /dev/video as a file

>>570816579
as did Linus with the woman
she's the audio person

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA1yte2sGfo

>>570816757
Zero Games

>>570816607
/dev/video0 is not a png or jpeg. Its an file like interface for v4l api. Which might be used for steam frame cameras, but also might have too long latency for amount of tracking cameras frame needs.
Most likely, if its not a coprocessor, its gonna have some application which does direct DMA memory access to cameras, or some MIPI hardware level API for extremely fast access.

>>570817195
i was wrong i guess now after checking it, you're right
but that still is a win, since i'm fairly sure I heard news about there being no coprocessor that handles eye tracking stuff exclusively (don't remember the source, sorry) so it's just a matter of someone patching the application / writing one that copies the data feed over

>>570814750
Looks neato. Hopefully it's dirt cheap

>>570817721
Second issue. Camera placement/lighting might be just not optimal for anything beyond loose gaze tracking.

Is there any non-gaming software you prefer to use in VR?

>>570818085
Most likely to be the main problem. The eye tracking will likely never be good outside of gaze.
Hold out for the swan if you REALLY want face tracking.

>>570818025
60 złoty to buy (15 bucks) or almost free if you do regular groceries in zabka. The IMU must be pretty bad in them, its just a toy. It would be very funny if someone made it work with slime server.

>>570818085
they're placed like Pico 4 Pro's which can do even brow tracking

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov PC Search and Destroy!
At 1800 UTC (1900 UTC+1)
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

Password is 3618

>>570818227
Wait, it seems LSM6DSL imu is not that bad

>>570818228
Well hopefully software will be fixable

I heard 3D movies are cool in VR but which ones are worth watching?

>>570821186
Spy Kids 3D

>>570810067
Tea instznce up! https://vrch.at/8t349wj2

>>570821186
Dredd 3d

>>570812180
>>570812457
No, more like I'm slowly figuring out its software quirks that make it more usable and replacing parts of it that make it more comfortable. It's a pretty terrible product stock if you're used to the Index but the value of the BSB2 goes up every day that the Frame is delayed or every day inflation goes up and the BSB2 stays the same price, and it's comfortable enough modded. I used to tell everyone to hard avoid the BSB2 but it went from absolute dogass to one of the only real choices left these days so when that's all we have we need to look at every option available.

>>570798594
I blame trapanon, the face that launched 1000 shitposts.

still thinkin about na explo

>>570805482
didn't star citizen say they're working on the beta for VR support a few months ago? or they put it on a roadmap or something?
only 14 more years bro

I have a meta quest 2. Its kinda shit and I barely used it when I got it. Focus never felt quite right. Interested in getting a new headset though. If its good enough Id consider paying like 1500. Wait for index, or should I just get the quest 3.

>>570824059
I tried it and while it feels amazing to take off and take in the city as you get into space it literally runs at sub 30fps
Couldn't even try mining since the game crashed shortly after docking on a space station

>>570824261
Wait for frame. Getting a non foveated headset in 2026 is a mistake

>>570784617
liminal pool blowjobs... (giving)

>>570824278
I hope they get it up to snuff
I mean, the game doesn't run great flat so I'm not holding my breath.
but it would literally be the ultimate killer app if it did.
especially if you had hosas and shit

how grim are the chances that new podracing game gets some sort of VR mod/uevr/vorpx shit?

>>570824261
q3 is barely an upgrade over q2
pcvr wise, everything you can do with q3 you can do with q2
i own both

>>570824278
>it literally runs at sub 30fps
My experience running it at then-current hardware a few years ago. Scam game designed for people with infinite money pockets. $50,000 for a jpeg.

>>570824261
Also if the focus is off you should get an eyetest, you need glasses

>>570822665
>the value of the BSB2 goes up every day that the Frame is delayed or every day inflation goes up and the BSB2 stays the same price
>I used to tell everyone to hard avoid the BSB2 but it went from absolute dogass to one of the only real choices left these days
Really retarded opinion given Lighthouse is a dead technology and the BSB2 doesn't ship with lighthouses or controllers.

speaking of tracking technologies
what happened to that french kikestarter magnet tracking kit which was supposed to be the vive tracker killer?

>>570825858
it's in 2 more weeks territory

>>570825858
Delays already announced due to IMU shortage

>>570825942
>>570826007
another one bites the dust huh

>>570826032
i think i have too much metal in my room anyway
even my steamcontroller dongle wigs out over my desk. No, I refuse to replace my husky garage workbench that I've routed all my cables and monitor mounts into. This shit has lasted me a decade already.

>>570826007
same for butterfly slimes

what happened to imu's
what ai nigs are tracking these days

Next Fest, more like Slop Fest.

>>570827916
>>570826007
zabka tracking, NOW

>>570811890
It's a frankenstein of Mao (head), Milltina (chest), Selestia (body) and a random foot model I found somewhere.

>>570828841
guh damn

>>570828841
>a random foot model I found somewhere

...Why, uh, would you need to replace your model's feet?

>>570828841
this person associates with dot btw

>>570829159
'cause 90% of default booth model feet suck ass

>>570829159
Anon...

>>570829556
how a foot suck an ass

>>570829874
with great difficulty

fags ruined vr

>>570830003
I want to molest a komado

fags saved vr and made me a happier person

>>570830207
the unfortunate reality is that fags saved vr

>>570830207
this being our only ritual post says a lot

>>570830207
fags have done more to VR than you ever will

not VR but I am sensing a trend here for hardware design focuses
https://www.xreal.com/aura

>>570830886
grim

>>570830965
a dyson vacuum isn't vr wtf

>>570830886
>our only ritual post

>>570821271
Thanks for hosting!

>>570831349
my wife ww is so cute

>>570830886
>20ish post over 3 years
>ritualpost

>>570831349
>d*sktopping

>>570831425
>cat avatarfag post

>>570831601
say that to my face in pavlov and see what happens

>>570830207
blessed

>>570831508
the correct term for that is "flatshitting"

>>570831785
you shit in vr?

>>570831508
It's not desktop, just the stream to my headset.

>>570831874
yeah? got a problem with me shitting in vr big boy? wanna fight me while i'm shitting huh?

>>570831798
XR2 SUCCESSOR????????

>Compared to Snapdragon XR2+ Gen 2, this new platform offers up to 60% higher Adreno GPU performance, a 30% increase for the Kryo CPU (4 + 2 performance cores), and 160% higher Hexagon NPU performance at 48 TOPS. This can be used for photorealistic avatars with Gaussian Splatting and LLM-based agents, or 3D content creation with large vision models directly on the device. XR experiences can better respond to real-time conditions with greater contextual awareness.
Peeco Swan SoC confirmed.

PAvlov news: Uh slight delay - things are fine I just forgot to hit the 'go' button

i've noticed that when i say i've only had pleasant experiences with /vrg/ so far, i'm met with a little laugh from whoever im speaking with, but i will persevere

>>570832534
>>570832534
>completely shits on frame's adreno 750
steamies, how are we feeling rn?

>>570832635
Okay we're live have fun pavlovers

every day I wake up so happy to be alive in such a beautiful time

>>570832863
frame is the budget headset for 2026 prices

I had three bites of the "tea" and now I feel sick. Note for next time: add less potato starch.

>>570831349
Cute!

>>570833576
The elusive H...

>>570833576
>potato starch in tea

>>570832863
>>570831798
>>570832534
Adreno 840/850 as the gpu.
Not really sure about cpu, but frequency is upor to 2.9ghz from 2.0/2.4ghz from xr2+g2.
Tweaked, but largely unchanged fast connect 7800 for the wireless, now supports bt 6.0.
12 cameras total, enough for proper face+eye, up from 10 from xr2+g2.
2x usb 3.1, up from 1x on xr2+g2.

That's pretty much it. XR2+gen2 tier headsets (q3, old pico, frame) finally can be considered outdated.
And a proper name too, very happy with this news.

>>570834110
rip galaxy xr buyers.
we tried to warn you, you didn't listen.

>>570831798
>On-device AI
>Tokens-per-second

>>570833780
It just makes sense in my head, let me perfect the recipe first.

>>570834110
>xr2+gen2: 3.1K x 3.1K @ 90 hz
>reality elite: 4.4k x 4.4k @ 90 hz
Swan 120hz dream is alive. 3810^2 at 120hz, more than enough for typical high-res uOLED.
Fingers crossed for chinks not cucking out for once on the refresh rate. It's the last unconfirmed feature which can potentially make it the first headset which meets my "next gen hmd" requirements list.

>>570835115
NPUs are useful for facetracking, it's fine.

Valve really should have made a launch game for the Frame or at least hired someone to do it.

>>570835709
the jump in display bandwidth is fucking massive though. 100%+
1.729 Mp/s to 3.484 Mp/s.

>>570835709
Don't worry, they'll have Walkabout day 1 running on the frame. What else would you need?

>>570835709
>facetracking
all it has is eyetracking

>>570805514
Bad unibody headstrap, unusually heavy for what it is

>>570836372
i don't believe it.
they have shit ton of camera slots, it makes no sense for them to not throw 2/4 just for the lower/upper face.

>>570805514
Bad design and increasingly worsening OS with every update.

>>570836579
it's an "xr productivity" headset first and foremost, even the eyetracking is just for gaze and you'll be controlling it with hand tracking

is there any way to give me a HUD indication of when a part of me is being touched and i can't visually see them? headpats from behind, as an example

>>570834110
>12 cameras total, enough for proper face+eye, up from 10 from xr2+g2.

XR is for normies sweety. Nobody needs face tracking to watch tv/movies and browse the web. Maybe apple is too embarrassed to turn around from teleconferencing and you can wait for that.

>>570837115
Yeah they're not making headsets for people who use them, they're chasing the next smartphone

>>570836767
>>570836372
What are those then?
What is your source? You are making ridiculous claims.

>>570837115
I willing to bet on face. There is no way they are not including it.

Besides the price being double, is there any down side to getting the galaxy xr over a frame when it releases. Like latency or compatibility?

>>570837395
theoretically no, in practice we have no idea yet

>>570837395
Not waiting for the swan is so dumb lmao, feel free to make the mistake if you want

>>570837395
galaxy xr is dead, you can forget about it

>>570837660
we don't know the swan's specs nigger

>>570837839
enjoy your mistake

>>570837839
nta, but we can infer pretty much everything about swan at this point

120hz support is the only thing that's on the fence for the swan

>>570837676
It's not dead but like every Google project risk of AndroidXR being taken behind the shed the moment it doesn't make money is high.

>>570838038
it's dead, bro

>>570836372
oh yeah?

am i the only one that's noticed when the quest 3 is powered on and if it drops your connection to virtual crestwao nut it nio kingdf hyester hk o

>>570838302
i do this and talk like this

>>570838302
And ni hao to you anon.

>>570837071
you could use contact colliders and a local-only parameter to show something in front of you maybe

>>570837071
yes anon it's called your personal mirror

>>570837115
>Nobody needs face tracking
brother they have an avatar app on Pico devices with booth models in it

>>570832727
It'll be 97% good experiences, but at one point you'll probably have to console some friend who's feeling suicidal, make someone jealous when you give someone else attention, or have some schizo be rude to you.

>>570837395
>galaxy xr

>design headset to appeal to normalfags
>market it to normalfags
>price it for enthusiasts
Sasuga Gaben

hey!!

movie starting soon! in about 10 minutes!

tonight we're watching The United States of Leland
https://letterboxd.com/film/the-united-states-of-leland/
Crime. Confusion. Compassion. They’re all just states of mind.

https://vrch.at/f7gxedxt or join off Lumadurin !

>>570836372
its litterally in the public swan documentation

>>570837364
you're huffing copium if you think those are suitable for face tracking, they'll most likely be used to track your hands, maybe also the controllers
>>570838167
yes
>>570839068
that it only has eye and hand tracking? yeah you're right

>>570839151
>yes
alright anon, whatever you say

>>570837839
4k microled, face tracking and eyetracking is litterally on the website

happy mahjong monday!

>>570839308
>face tracking
it "litterally" isn't

>>570839068
>>570839308
no?

happy poker wednesday!

>>570839151
>you're huffing copium if you think those are suitable for face tracking
there is literally no better place to put face tracking cameras
it's literally what the SOTA implementation of face tracking does too

you claims have neither logic, nor source. you are pulling them straight out of your ass as far as i'm concerned

>>570839645
buy an ad

>>570839376
>>570839502
here you guys go, some documentation from their Unity Pico OS 6 beta
NO 4 CHINS THIS ISNT SPAM I KNOW ITS CHINA BUT STILL FUCK YOU
can't actually use the URL fuck this lol here's a picture

>>570839749
4chan hates Pico lmao

>>570839728
go back to trash

>>570839886
and so forth

>>570839749
>>570839886
>>570840134
you don't know this is for swan specifically and not just for pico os 6 running on pico 4 pro

>>570839886
https://developer.picoxr.com%2Fresources/?platform=unity

>>570840267
nigga?

>>570840267
>pico os 6 running on pico 4 pro
its not backwards compatible btw

only mentions of face tracking are in documents that also apply to the previous actually face tracked headsets, literally no mentions in the swan specific documents
folly to think that the shared documents would mean 100% of everything in there applies to every single headset listed

Don't even bother arguing with the retard. Face is locked. There is no way they are shipping without it.

>>570840621
grasping at straws

>>570840621
the docs are literally for the OS that ONLY the Swan will run my man

>>570840721
for now, it's called 6, not swan
Future devices or add-ons could have face tracking capabilities, but the swan just doesn't

if it is not explicitly stated to be there on the headset itself, it isn't going to be

>>570840721
os 6 documents say nothing about face tracking at all actually

>>570840810
what OS do you think Swan runs?
i'll give you a hint, it's not Pico OS 5 or below

> but the swan just doesn't
lol
you forgot
>based on my ass

>>570840871
refer to
>>570840134
this is all OS 6 beta docs for public development

>>570840894
point is, NIGGA, that they could be future proofing the OS

>>570841001
LMAO!!!!!

>>570841001
point is, NIGGA, that SOME of us know what's up and (you) don't

okay but can we talk about latency

it won't have face tracking
I curse all of you shit posters, if it ships without face tracking your dicks will grow back and you'll never want to fuck men anymore

>>570841129

Anons that played the Battlefield games, are jets meant to counter helicopters?
Since jets are unlikely to be added to Forefront, what would an air vehicle designed to counter other air vehicles look like in your opinion?

>>570841129
i'm here, darling
we need a new headset though, we can't keep rehashing old material

documents that mention pico neo3 talk about face tracking, can't wait to manifest face tracking on the amazing pico neo3
not all of the documents are swan or os 6 specific, get real

>>570841217
phew my dick is safe

>>570841129
we basically already are
just replace the word "facetracking" with "latency" and there's no difference

What's the latency of the facetracking?

>>570841343
it's funny how you dismissed the physical camera holes and keep trying to go back to the documentation

>>570841509
good question, unironically
i can already see how that discussion can easily ruin couple of evenings for trashnig tourists

>>570841546
the camera holes that are point outwards?

>>570841546
i'm sorry if me not agreeing with you is me dismissing them, i did reply though

>>570835863
Half Life 3, Steam Frame compatible and only compile it for Linux (no windows build) then bundle it with Steam Frame and Steam Machine purchases.

>>570841747
you don't see the orientation of the sensors on the render
and there is no better way to position the face cameras.

>>570842014
that's literally cope, Anon

Could something like this be used to livestream nerve activity to someone in VR for your VR sessions?

>>570842054
your "argument" is pretty much just "they just wouldn't"
you have no basis in reality.

>>570842201
Anon, I don't think you realize, but that's literally your argument too
you just cope that they "just have to!"

>>570842273
Are you willing to bet swan wouldn't have face?
How about $30?

>>570842398
If it doesn't have face tracking, your dick falls off

the pico swan documentation just said that it's gonna suck me cock what the fuck...

A chinese facetracker just flew over my house.

>>570842273
>you just cope that they "just have to!"
Camera holes, free camera "slots" on the SOC, aping vision pro with the strap etc which implies feature parity on paper, new documentation refers to it.

You on the other hand, have absolutely no evidence to suggest it wouldn't have it.

the bottom cameras are obviously there to record my strokes per minute

None of that matters since face tracking is the easy addon for any HMD, eye tracking is the crucial part that you really don't want to DIY.

>>570842724
If they had it, they would say they have it, simple as.

You're grasping at straws

>>570842897
they've only teased it officially

>>570843002
you've teased my dick with your bumhole too, doesn't mean shit

>>570842825
fuck no, it's about software integration mostly
bytedance chinks would be able to train proper face tracking models

>>570842897
it's not new
galaxy xr (lol) never said anything about face till the release date
anyway, done talking with you. enjoy your male pattern baldness for the generations once swan releases with face

>>570842825
i completely agree with you, i'd just prefer a high end priced headset would have such a feature built in

can some trashnig go erp with brad and ask him about the features of swan, he tested it at CES in the private demo

face tracking as an addon is amazingly awful and as every custom ft so far requires you to have a stick dangling down your headset totally ruining the ergonomics

>>570843094
built in software for either eye and face tracking isn't necessarily better, just look at beyond 2e
even the galaxy xr eye and face tracking was inferior to the quest pro which is stupid as fuck

>research shows men lower their voice an octave in the presence of a femoid
>friend's voice goes an octave higher instead
Gay or psychopath?

>>570843527
Both.
Unfriend, block, report to the nearest law enforcement if you can.

>>570843390
bigshit are literally poorfag jeets
they can't compare to facebook, apple and bytedance

>>570843371
the ergonomics of what exactly? laying in your bed face down ass up? the funny thing is that even if it's less convenient to have a babble or whatever other camera from the bottom of your headset, the third party face tracking software out there gives you superior face tracking than any built into a headset

>>570843527
send them to me, i'll deal with them

>>570843390
Zucc burnt infinitely more money and already had advanced machine learning models to help with eye and facetracking, Samsung and Google just didn't want to go 80b into red numbers for it.

>>570843706
>the third party face tracking software out there gives you superior face tracking than any built into a headset
lmao!

Project swan is a $3000 headset that has no face tracking

>>570843527
He unconsciously sees the foid as competition, so he tries to sound cuter.

>>570843669
>>570843741
yes
>>570843807
nice argument!

>>570843923
unbelibable

project swan is a $4000 headset that does NOT suck me off

>>570843965
"fuck off, retard" is the only "argument" you deserve

petition to ban americans from EU pavlov

>>570843923
$300 or dead on arrival + full Linux support. Also comes bundled with harf rife Aryx

>>570843923
they're aiming at 10K to 15K rnb
so year, roughly

>>570844135
i'm sorry i'm hurting your hype

>>570844208
how much is that in amerigolem coins?

>>570844268
fuck you, it's one thing we can enjoy in the vr industry

>>570844321
10K is around $1500
15K is around $2200

>>570843952
Why would gay men have any interest in women? Or he is trying to go for the prison gays?

>>570844413
don't get me wrong, i hope it will have face tracking, but it just simply hasn't been confirmed so i'd temper my expectations until or if it is

>>570844414
the project sawn press release is aping off of the apple style presentation for a reason, I think you can expect Vision pro type prices for the swan

>>570844578
why? just hype it up and the shit on it if it turns out it doesn't have it
no face would be no excuse deal breaker for the headset

>>570844825
i personally like having grounded expectations

>>570845279
face expectation is 100% grounded, the opposite is completely ungrounded though

>>570845483
until it's listed in their specs the same was as eye and hand tracking, i don't agree

if the frame is >800 i'm just waiting for the swan, simple as

evidence for face
>camera holes in the leaked render
>mentions in the documentation
>market positioning as the rival for vision pro, which has it
>chip has a lot of "free" camera slots which makes the cost of the implementation amount to a couple of camera sensors

evidence against face
>they never explicitly mentioned it (questionable, but whatever, i give it to you)

>>570845954
the swan is $2500 though

>>570846031
It's what it costs. They are not earning a lot per unit. It's not that far from BoM.
A fair price by definition.

>>570846031
swan would be worth it at 2k for the advertised specs and features, if the frame actually sells at 1000-1200 like people are expecting there's no way to justify that price for me

>>570844578
here, I'll confirm it for you
it's confirmed

one controller busted
lens scratched
internal + spare batteries dying
software rotting

frame save me

>>570846529
my quest 2 is holding on by a thread. i need this.

>>570846521
>here, I'll confirm it for you
>i suck cocks
bold of you, anon

save me gaben-sama

Everyone ready for some anti hopium?

Personally I don't believe this since it's based on... nothing at all.

>>570846927
What is this vagueboy ass tweet

>>570846031
it's been pretty much confirmed it'll have a similar price to AVP, before the price of components went up again

>>570846927
>already slipping further towards end of summer

>>570846927
they imported shit ton (literally) of frame units not so long ago
don't really care about it anymore though, thanks to the new reality elite announcement
with every single passing day frame gets more and more outdated on release

My Dad works for Steamtendo and said the Frame is cancelled because VR has no games and they're making the Dreamcast 2 instead

>>570847006
no

>>570847304
>sells out in two seconds
>scalped for double price
>funds my Swan purchase
thank you Gabe

I'm going to buy a gun stock

>>570837395
The big downside of the XR is 90Hz. Otherwise, the software isn't great but at least is at a usable state and VD works just fine to get you into PCVR land where the only real big issue is that how it handles tracking universes is weird or something so even with constant calibration, you're sliding around a bit within your acceptable jitter settings.

>>570847609
u gon regret it

>>570847609
already cut your balls off?

>>570847609
>he's gonna fall for the meme

any proper vr shooter needs to add mechanics just to fuck with stockfags

>>570848280
Like grenades?

>>570848331
anything, sky is the limit if you ask it, just get creative

>>570848280
Like uhh literally anything that isn't aiming your gun.

>>570848280
Waggle sprint would be an easy way to do that. It's not as easy to quickly shoulder from a sideways position compared to just lowering and raising your weapon.

>>570847304
I only half way understand this mindset

More cameras is cool but better specs for standalone is unexciting by itself until I see breakthroughs in computer vision that let us do optical body tracking. Meta had machiavellian resources to figure that problem out and they never did and the result was torso cuck avatars. Oh yes we can have extremely high resolution displays but you can't drive modern good looking games at those resolutions and video file sizes would be insane, so its a magic multi monitor setup and not much else. People can read in these headsets pretty good above 3000px yet they keep chasing the PPD meme instead of making the panels bigger and giving us back the FOV. At least they have show and tell for HDR microdisplays but it will be years before it's a product.

>>570848840
HDR on the AVP M5 gets eaten up by the pancake lenses

>>570848840
>have extremely high resolution displays but you can't drive modern good looking games at those resolutions
nigga, we have eye
it took so fucking long, but we finally have it
4090 is enough

Do you guys actually ERP with men pretending to be cute girls?

>>570849141
yes it's fun

>>570849075
Foveated rendering probably doesn't work with current wireless latencies

>>570849141
I prefer ERPing as a man with another man and not this fag girl moan shit. Everyone here is a faggot and has to act like a girl.

>>570849141
yeah

>>570849237
i tested it personally in my own engine, it's fine

>>570849141
No, lmao
I don't need to be prison gay since I have an actual girlfriend in real life.

>>570849141
No, it ruins it when they pretend to be a cute girl. Nothing gayer than some fag giving you the fakest faggot moan you've ever heard. Moan like a man you pansy

>>570848995
I mean the samsung ones they keep blueballing people with at trade shows. They will damage your eyes without lenses they are so godlike. So 90 degree FOV will be the last thing you see before you die.

>>570849141
No, you got memed. Literally noone here has ever done that.

>>570849141
>>570849218
>>570849256
>>570849302
literal coordinated raid from shitcord troons

>>570849424
the innate human desire to flashbang oneself with a box on your head will never cease to amaze me

>>570849480

>>570849331
I want to believe, if I had an eyetracking headset I'd ask for the demo

>>570849141
I really like cute anime girls and I have sexual and romantic relations with men IRL so I just see it as one big win. I don't think I could ever actually do the RP bit of ERP though I prefer it being gay anyways.

>>570849424
>>570849494
>They will damage your eyes without lenses they are so godlike.
No they would not. Only retards who have no idea how things work say that.

>>570849480
they think it's so fuckin funny dude
you got mad? get farmed for screenscaps

mao sex
cute useless quickshot dick

>>570849480
Yes and every JP booth creator and the tens of thousands of people that have lewd avatars are also all shitcord troons. Admit it: you're jealous you don't have a vrfu.

>>570849480
the troons are in the walls

>>570849141
>Do you guys actually ERP with men
Yes.
>pretending to be cute girls
No, we just use girl avatars.

>>570849141
No, I fly planes and shoot guns.

>>570850164
the troon concentration in this thread unironically rivals /x(h)ivg/

>>570850373
take your meds

>long technobabble discussion about some shit like latency followed by random schizophrenic meltdowns about gay people and /trash/ and fags

>>570850496
your /v/-tier "arguments" wouldn't work here
any regular knows the actual state of things

>>570850704
Well I tried 1 post to re rail the thread and its got nothing so far.

>>570850704
>random
>completely unprovoked
doing it again, huh

>>570850884
The main market for face tracking is troons

>>570850704
Real enthusiasts who love vr vs failed normalfag tourists who think deviant sexuality is a replacement for personality.
The tale as old as time.

>>570849141
Not me, but the men I erp with do.

Why don't we have Gun MMO yet?

>>570851274
The mechanics in GGO are absolute dogshit why would you ever play a game like this.

>>570851342
are they?

>>570851342
MMOs are inherently dogshit
it's getting into the hamster wheel because it's fun knowing that its spinning in place

>>570842075
Yes, vrchat accepts arbitrary OSC input. Mostly for instruments, but people use it for heartrate trackers and dildos I'm sure you could do that too if you were willing to write a python app to handle the OSC and feed it to vrchat.

>>570849141
My ERP experiences have only been with foids. I might be missing out.

>>570851386
Watch it with me in VR right now if you remember what site you use with popcorn palace because I don't have a version converted and uploaded.

are those finger tracking glove things good?

>>570851526
I read the book decades ago.

>>570851520
Fucking homo, gross

>>570846927
two more weeks!
two more weeks!

>>570851274
the traditional mmo format costs too much and doesn't translate to VR

>>570770136 (Cross-thread)
5080 is not good enough for the higher resolution headsets, ofc depends on game but still.
Anyways here are your options for wireless OLED headsets (nowadays every wireless headset has foveated streaming if they have eye tracking)
Galaxy XR
Play for Dream
(Pico Swan, upcoming later this year)
I have been thinking of a plan B if I don't get the Frame aswell and these are it.
I would personally wait for the Pico Swan.

That uploadvr game bundle never came out did it?
Lies and misinformation, on my Internet?

>>570852251
>Anyways here are your options for wireless OLED headsets
>Galaxy XR
stopped reading here

>>570852654
Nope, still dead

>>570803181
Why is that clown bitch squatting?
It's extremely disrespectful to the footfags under the table...
Please can we normalize sitting normally and putting your feet inside the table.
Thanks.

I am taking a break from VRchat, and have embraced the autism

>>570853506
they are under the table actually. when the small shoes are unshod, the feet revealed are an immense size in true clown-car nature

>>570853916
Cool vibe but I don't see the mission design being super interesting down the line.

why arent any of your avatars black?

Do we got Barotrauma in VR

Bless men who are actually gay, I wish there were more of them. It's a lot nicer and more wholesome to see, than 10 guys simping over the same girl

>>570854383
I don't find black women very attractive

>>570854383
I made this avi, which I like a lot. Has blue black skin

>>570854389
That'd be too much fun, so obviously we don't

The avatar is not me

>>570855029
if it wasnt me, why do i keep appearing as it in my dreams?

>>570854389
That's a premium idea and we live in meta slop era still.

>>570854383
Best I can do is a gyaru tan. Also what that other guy said

>>570854309
oh maybe, for now I'm just enjoying the vibe yeah

>>570837395
I've heard the tracking is bad on Galaxy XR.

>>570854389
you're not getting Barotrauma VR, but you're getting gorilla tag clone 173

>>570784985
missed TAVR? nice, finally a good reason to end it all.

VR really lends itself to bullshit minigame social game archtypes

stuff like Amogus, barotrauma, or Lovers in a Dangerous Spacetime all come to mind for being good for VR

Can I play with you guys if I live in da frontiers and get 100-250+ ping?

>>570784617
every water world now requires you to grab the ladder to get out. WHY

>>570851274
We already have Forefront.
There's a lot of funny moments on Forefront too like this one.
Forefront funny moments video:

>>570852251
>5080 is not good enough
lol

>>570838923
Thank ya'll for coming!
Moral of the story? Kill your local mentally retarded person.
See those who can make it next week for something with a bit more life to it, at the very least.

>>570858829
Nonce

>>570841301
Jets are a great counter to helicopters, yes. Though in the case of Forefront I think their best bet is to add stationary infantry weapons to points of the map, similar to how Battlefield 2 did it. A stationary stinger would let anyone regardless of class help lock down an area of the map from helicopters, and stationary guns for slowly whittling down vehicle health or possibly even sniping the pilot out.

>>570856748
HA! I have a few funny moments in Forefront on sniper too

>>570855669
Only TAVR I've seen hosted in the thread are the occasional EUs on Thursday. If you missed that then you just don't check the thread often or thoroughly enough.

>>570856748
bow hunting in forefront

>>570857836
So 4k x 4k headsets are basically like a 8k display, well they are even more demanding.
You can research yourself which graphics cards are able to do 8k gaming.
Spoiler: 5080 is not one of them.

These are all gunstock gameplay

It's that time again, let's cycle together!

https://vrch.at/ny3afrj7

Speaking of gunstocks, how feasable would it be to use VR gloves with prop guns instead to get both the feeling and being able to switch between guns / throwables easier.

>>570861159
>>570861159
no one in vrg uses a gunstock.

>>570861816
That's what they claim

>>570861854
stockless

i NEED mahjong

>>570860953
Forefront? Optimized world in VRChat with a few friends? Breachers? Easy. Maybe even lighter pavlov maps.
t. 3080 user.

Hello
May I interest anyone in another Poker networking test?
This time we migrated to UdonChips, which hopefully should resolve some of the more elusive bugs we've been running into, and should allow us to have more fun gimmicks in the future.

>>570862850
Scary...

>>570849678
Yeah they wouldn't damage your eyes because you would stop looking at it. A lightbulb can be like 20k nits. I wouldn't put my eye up to it.

>>570863356
learn what low persistence is

>>570863160
please ignore the top result when searching for udon chips gimmicks kthx

>>570863592
?????

is this a fetish thing

>>570863469
I wouldn't put my eye up to a strobe light either but I wouldn't talk you out of it

>>570861816
forefront players don't but many pavlov players do

>>570856748
BOOOOM
*breaks through your I-don't-want-to-play-forefront wall*

>>570863829
the duty cycle is less than 5%
pancakes eat light too, because polarization, so you cut the brightness in half right there, and that's assuming an ideal lens
start with 20k and you would be lucky to get 1k hitting the eye at the end

>>570862547
Okay and what VR headset are you using.
Anyways Anon was asking about Steam Frame which is marketed as a PCVR headset.
5080 is not enough for quality PCVR mods with a 8k headset.

>>570860953
>So 4k x 4k headsets are basically like a 8k display
Let me guess, you are watching 8k movies on your headset. Why do retards have opinions.

>>570860026
yea motherfucker because EUs all play the fun games while i'm at work! doing my job!
maybe I need to take this matter into my own NA hands.

>>570863592
>>570863706
>sizefag gimmick
wtf I love poker now

What if we just like run an actual poker tournament
pool some amount of shitty money together, and play with credits, player with most credit wins $5

>>570864417
you guys really need a core of like 3-4 dudes to host games at proper times

>>570864117
My post said without lenses. Stop looking at bright lights so you can read.

Also persistence can and will be cranked for XR. You can't just cherry pick the lowest number many. If they rep says don't look directly into the microoled I'm going to listen to them instead of an anon without arguments.

>>570864247
different anon here that's a completely different sentence. I know because I've seen a lot of sentences.

>>570864538
poker is only fun if you get money in the end
to me, it's a shit game

>>570864616
even without lenses, low persistence cuts the light to 1/33 of the initial 20k.
you are not damage shit, retard. you are already sub 1k.

>>570833317
So true mate. For all it's faults, VR is great and that we are alive just in time for it

Any cuckolds who also has to play VR in their little cage apartment?

>>570860953
>>570862547
Do we really need to see forefront at 4000 pixels. It's not a bad looking game but I would never get tiny 1.5" panels with 90 degree FOV and no overlap for that.

>>570865107
>It's not a bad looking game
Anon, please, it's a terrible looking game
We just accept it because it's VR

>>570865161
or more specifically, graphically it's a terrible looking game
it's not offensive because of the style they choose

WHOS EXCITED FOR RASHINBAN ADVENTURE EPSIODE 2!!!?

>>570865107
You have never seen a 3k^2 32xMSAA vr game and it shows.
Once you know, you can never go back.
4000 pixels is nothing really.

>>570865541
I'VE SEEN REAL LIFE, NIGGA

>>570864938
yeah that makes sense nvm

nooo haha dont shrink me and put me in your shoe for the rest of the instance noooooooo

>>570865541
I wore a goggles at the pool a few times you better watch who you're talking to

>>570865248
Oooh ooh ooh me me me! Did the jp actually say they're continuing it?

>>570865773
you

>>570866124
guide on how to add this to my avatar NOW

>>570865903
No I'm just trying to get a reaction :)

>>570866278
Boooooo

>>570866190
add what exactly?

>>570866349
shoe dangling

>>570866413
I don't think that's what's going on there, it's probably just the shoes being world constrained
but I recall some anon making/posting a shoe dangling prefab of sorts like a month ago if you care to find it

>2019+7
>still no big open RPG made exclusively for VR
>still no cool KF-like dungeon crawler
>inb4 Skyrim

>>570864417
>maybe I need to take this matter into my own NA hands
It's worth a try in my opinion. EUs mostly play when one guy randomly hosts it and there are enough anons who show up for any kind of shooterslop to fill it just from thread shilling. That sometimes works in other VR games for NA but your safest bet is always to shill directly to a few people like >>570864592 suggests first.

>>570864236
I'm rendering at 4k per eye

>>570864938
>damage eyes
Just look at the "nits" of sunlit scene. It's quite bright.

>>570867265
Retardwings are so cute

Are you guys actually paying money to buy stuff off of booth, are is there some resource I'm not aware off

>>570868109
We're not poor.

>>570868109
https://forum.ripper.store/
if you still need an invite to join just drop a throwaway email and I'll send you an invite

>>570868156
Does proton work?
[email protected]

>>570868436
sent

only browns use ripperstore

god i NEED to rape a lapwing

>>570868469
got it, Thanks!

>>570868109
I order everything like a good master of the japanese booth slaves
Another 10,000 yen recharge to my pixiv coban, thank you

>>570862850
I'm always up for poker

dont start poker yet

>>570868586
that's fucking grim if you know what I mean hehe

>>570868109
I follow the rule of
>if something is not worth my money
>it's also not worth my time
so I buy booth assets but am selective about it

>>570869064
I follow the less retarded rule of
>make sure it functions/looks as advertised before buying it

>>570868156
>ripping people's avatars in the big 26
cringe.

>>570869064
>buy Booth asset
>500k polys and massive clipping issues when I dare to move away from a T-pose
>not worth fixing
>pirate everything first now because I can't return digital goods

>>570869794
ripper store is mostly just general booth asset piracy nowadays, not as much actual avatar ripping anymore

>>570869843
>Very Poor quality asset was worth neither your money or your time

>>570869991
And yet they got my money. Curious

>>570868156
https://forum.ripper.store/topic/108432/asset-hunter-a-tool-to-make-ripperstore-easier

grab this plugin too

>>570869064
I'd fuck grim

i need to chop my tits (virtual) off

>>570870672
Draw the boobs smaller

>>570870672
Have I got the base model for you

>>570870126
I do understand 'try before you buy' and all that, maybe I'm too cynical about it, but I feel like I can tell that some asset is an unfixable mess just from red flags in the screenshots and description most of the time

>>570871270
Sometimes a good creator makes a dogshit piece, and conversely sometimes someone who made trash gets better over time. Dimgray used to be absolutely terrible with how much clipping and such there was, but now makes some pretty cool stuff that's actually wearable, just as an example.

What trackers for to jack my cock while wearing

https://fixupx.com/_NyaPPu/status/2066835007692546076/en
BIG IF TRUE

>>570829874
idk but they feetfriends can suck a feet pretty good

>>570871751
Turning it into an unity side avatar optimization tool that works in one click even if you don't understand it would improve vrchat massively. I love it and I'd use it in any form, but in particular, it'd be amazing if every single person would use this as a default.

>>570872059
The fact that VRC hasn't taken d4rk's and similar tools, paid the devs for their time and to keep working on it further, and forced them into the VCC package really shows how much they actually care about optimization.

>>570872207
>paid the devs
the investors want their money back now, ain't got time for paying the poor sods working on it

I'm going INSANE, this cannot be all that there is to VRCHAT

>>570872504
You mean making blender projects?
VRchat is great and infinite.

Try to learn to enjoy the fruits of your labor from blender and unity, and actually inhabit the virtual world with friends

>>570872598
but the time i could spend on learning avatar stuff is spent on being with friends...

>>570872667
Why not both?
I do this

I login VRchat and work on blender and unity while on my XSoverlay surrounded by friends in virtual reality

I'm a complete new fag
Give me a quick rundown of what you guys are doing, the vrchatters

so like, you find a base model, and then what, do you guys go hunt for clothes, and hair styles, do you just drag and drop into unity and use actual 3D modeling knowledge to make the clothes fit?
What about poses, is it also done in unity?


what's the process of "putting together a model" I mean

>>570871001
Naizuri with Lapwing's barbie doll chest

>>570854389
It's not really like Barotrauma at all, but Iron Wolf is an option if you just want a solid multiplayer submarine game.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe9PW1cMHg_6w5jRGkbfkAs8PiRyuD4g9elLgcE8_1XrI_zjA/viewform?pli=1&pli=1

It's time anon!

>>570873258
These days, you honestly just ltierally drag them in yeah.

Modular Avatar
VRCfury

does most of the heavy lifting

>>570873258
there are a lot of ways. combining pre-fit assets in Unity is the easiest, but blender is a lot more flexible and if you aren't using a common base there won't be a lot of clothing options that fit. A lot of poses and controls come "out of the box" or with very minimal setup in unity.

>>570873258
The most basic take that majority of people do is buying outfits and parts that fit a certain booth base.
https://boothplorer.com/avatars
Go here, find some character you like, underneath there's a list of compatible modules. Those work with drag and drop, you throw it into character on unity scene, most of the time automated scripts take care of everything related to merging it into one avatar. You can go deeper, fit clothes and accessories from various other sources yourself in blender, whatnot, but the way it usually goes is just that. People who put moderate amounts of effort tend to work on making sure that materials and textures fit each other, and do other various little touchups.

>What about poses, is it also done in unity?
we, uh, use avatar in game sometimes when not playing blender/unity, and then we pose as we please with our own bodies

>>570873090
I don't understand how people can tolerate using anything more complicated than discord in an overlay. Controllers jittering around all over the place. Everything looking fuzzy because your vision's imperfect and you need new lenses in the nightmare goggles.

>>570874132
I use a physical mouse and keyboard while in my overlay if I want to be productive

>>570866774
This is my attempt, I need to know which hard, fast, and lethal gentlemen operators are ready for operations involving a rapid application of kinetic force in a wide variety of global flashpoints that are in desperate need of gungho cowboys with an itchy sack and an itchier trigger finger.
I'm based in CST (GMT-6) and I usually game between 7PM to 11PM weekdays with very flexible timing on weekends. I would be very happy to host games if any lads find something around those times acceptable.
If it becomes a solid weekly thing then by god I will try to keep whatever day we choose to be as consistent as I can.

>>570871001
>works his hardest to make the least sexualised body possible
>can barely contain my lust just looking at it like a feral dog that just sniffed a bitch in heat
ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME, TWO NOTHING WRONG WITH ME...

>>570874629
Everywhere I got I must breed

>>570849141
I just make sure to call him a good girl to cancel out the gay.

Where's the fat bastard avatar

>>570874365
I could do 7-9PM CST Monday, Tuesday, or Thursday. Can't promise any consistent time on the weekends, but I'd drop by then too if I'm free.
>If it becomes a solid weekly thing
There's unfortunately only a few levels and no workshop support, so it usually only lasts a few sessions each time we run through what's there. Been long enough about a year apparently for another rerun though.

>>570873090
bitch, i got 8gb of ram and theyre all busy rendering your enormous tits

>>570875297
fucking wish i knew, ill never be able to live out being under one at this rate

No NA Assetto Corsa tomorrow since I'll be busy doing IRL track stuff. Should be back at the normal time next week.

Is there any chance Quest titles like Batman and Asgard's Wrath will ever get unofficially ported to PC or the Meme Frame?

>>570872504
Sis your vrchat+ battlepass? You are ranked right? Where are you on the top
100?

>>570876840
frame yes because vrchat is running the quest version on the frame

>>570876840
ovrport app ports those games to other openxr android headsets, so frame yes, pc no.

>>570872395
i'm sure they're mad they can't lay them off

>>570868740
>>570868782
poker is over
network test was a success

>>570866673
VR games are in a rut that they won't leave. At least Gabe is making controllers that work well with flat game ports

>>570784539
Instance is up for the music double feature, we'll be starting in 15 minutes or so. If you're interested, you can join off Silencen or try the link:
https://vrch.at/fzye9088

hey pypy's up:
https://vrch.at/c02js95a

>>570881635
big plapplap crowd

New poker version: https://files.catbox.moe/k1p6lr.unitypackage
Depends on:
- UdonChips 2.11 (https://booth.pm/ja/items/3060394)
- SmartObjectSync (https://github.com/MMMaellon/SmartObjectSync)
Changes:
- All prefabs are now under VrchatHoldem/Prefabs
- Drastically improved performance
- Added more stats
- Now integrates with UdonChips
- 8 player table variant added

Usage:
Add the following prefabs to your scene:
- UdonChips: I recommend an initial amount of 1500, and Save mode of Auto
- HoldemGame (suggested scale of 0.8): Add as many tables as you want. I recommend a winner timeout value of 10s, and an action timeout value of 15-20s. In the editor, reference UdonChips.
- VRChatHoldemPlayerObject: Add a single object per world. I recommend keeping the default values. In the editor, reference UdonChips.

Optional
- UncModeButton: Add one per HoldemGame prefab. "High visibility mode". Select holdemgame reference for it to work.
- WelfarePrefab: Button for getting welfare money. I recommend putting 750 in cash granted, with a cooldown of 10 mins, and a max balance threshold of 3k
- InfoPanel: Balance and stats panel
- DunceCapPool: Add one to the scene if you intend to have a dunce cap.
- DunceCapGive: Grabbable Duncecap you use to give to others players, I suggest 5k to give, 5k to take off and radius of 0.4
- CharityCardPrefab: Donation card. I suggest transfer of 1k, minimum of 1k and radius of 0.4

>>570881635
>just finished dinner
Fucking hell I will set an alarm for next time so I don't forget

>>570882356
make a github or something, otherwise it'll get lost like tears in the rain

>>570883053
>otherwise it'll get lost like tears in the rain
we shall too, one day

>>570882356
agreeing with >>570883053
please do host it somewhere with a proper direct link or something, any git instance would do

>>570874230
Shit, that would be awesome. Gonna try that later.

>>570875516
we usually get an hour-ish sessions if memory serves so if I can make it work i'll give an hour warning (7PM CST) before I start.
and true, I forgot how content starved we are, I know they recently added a few new levels but no workshop is rough, so we'll see what we can do.

>>570881159
Frame controllers need to be open like a normal PC controller. It's really bad for VR when controllers are locked to a particular headset and PC and consoles have all this choice. Also too many times you want to buy a headset and the controllers of all things are a consideration. A VR headset has to nail good controllers instead of just being a headset.

>>570881635
good pypy pypyers

>>570843527
Is this real?

>>570894949
Yes. Pay attention to the actions of the alpha fags when a foid draws the attention of majority of the instance. Truly fascinating to witness.

>>570894949
Yes, it happens on forefront too

>>570896670
is that why all the fags are shitting on kids when girls are around

/bfg/ is funny
i recommend some slop fps for those flattrannies we have in /vrg/
bf6 is pretty fun

>>570896754
bf6 is ded, innit

>>570896795
nah it aint ded

>>570896938
I'll wait for the next one.

>>570896473
imagine having better things to do than fawn over women for merely existing. truly unthinkable.

>>570896754
I just play cs2 and every other teammate keeps thinking I'm a foid.

>>570898756
why, literally impossible unless you're doing a troon voice

>>570898825
I have a very soft voice...

>>570898925
Feminine

>>570898756
>teammate keeps thinking I'm a foid.
you must be bad at the game. Try practicing until you’re better.
>>570897407
Attention thieves.

>>570900360
I'm usually good at the game :3

:: SEA Comfy Explo | (See schedule below) ::

What is this?
We explore worlds slowly and change maps every 45 minutes or so unless the map is bad while in our overlays or chatting together. A much slower and chiller exploration hangout

When?
Wed - 9:00AM-1:30PM UTC - Comfy Explo

what settings do I have to turn on to not get absolutely blasted by lag when an insane avatar loads in, I'm new

>>570901936
there's a setting to filter avatars over a certain size

>>570901668
wrld_3f3c7928-9abc-4fc1-8778-7a62e442476f

>>570901936
depends on your GPU/config

for high end, i use download size limit 120mb and vram limit 160mb, its not perfect but it will filter the worst offenders

also turn on culling to like nearest 30, and then up that until your pc cant handle it anymore

>>570902082
Hell yeah we going there!

>>570902109
What's this VRAM limit option, I don't think I spot it in the menu?

>>570902696
im fucking stupid, i keep thinking its a vram limit when its just a size limit because its catches the same kind of idiots using terrible avatars, its just in the Avatars section

>>570901936
set a download size limit of like 40mb or so. the mega crashout you get is because there are some 'people' that have like 200MB avatars and loading that shit in is a free lag spike

>>570901936
I've set max distance to less than 100, and max avatars to either 20, or 8 if its a particularly bad map.
You joining comfy SEA explo?

>>570902990
ah, so the uncompressed setting then
I got a 5700x3d and a 4080
not really sure this would rank me

>>570901936
>>570903472
You have to go to BIG_MENU>Settings>Avatars>AvatarOptimization
Block = Poor and Very Poor
DL size = 50 mb
VRAM size = 150 mb
Friends exempt = NOT EXEMPT

Also make sure you have everyone manually not set to show avatar cause the raycast on people overrides every other setting.
Put on shield

>>570903673
Forgot to add. This setting would force most into IMPOSTOR mode

You may change
Block = None
if you have a beefy PC

But the DL size and VRAM size setting usually fucks with the most aggregious CPU/GPU hog avatars

>>570903724
>imposter mode
Speaking of, are the imposter models changeable? I've heard tales of random robots and furry imposters. Sounds likr VRC just gives you a random one from their prebuilt stockpile.

>>570875946
Watcha doing at the track?

>>570903961
Imposter is baked from the model after upload, you're thinking of fallback which is also something you manually pick and can set

>>570903673
>Block = Poor and Very Poor
do you even get to see anyone, or does that mean that dl/vram limits apply only to poor/very poor?

>>570904290
You see 80% of people as impostors at that setting.
You may just set Block = None to be more lenient
see >>570903724

It's the VRAM size that usually fucks with you.
And the DL size is to catch those with extremely complex animators and sound effect files that just bloat.

>>570903472
What's exploration like?
I'm functionally mute

>>570904573
It's chill. You can just headpat and vibe and maybe on your overlay. Slow chats happening in different worlds comfily

>>570904573
It is a led expedition where a new world is moved to every 15 to 20 minutes.

>>570904658
>>570904845
sounds spooky

>>570904845
No that's SEA Explo

>>570904978
This one is Comfy Explo which changes worls every 45 mins. Slower

>>570905283
sounds even spookier

>>570905324
ur a spook

>>570904573
I'm basically mute after an hour of explo starting due to people in my house.
We can be mute together!

>>570905810
I'm just a sensitive old man

Having hanged out in the gaypride public lobby for a while now, I can say I'm gay for cute boys.

>>570904573
It's like a normal hangout instance where people either disperse to ever corner of the map into cliques or move three feet from spawn, people cht for a while then the respawn notif pops up and we all go into a new world, rinse repeat for 1-2 1/2 hours.

>>570906732
>here people either disperse to ever corner of the map into cliques
Terrifying.

>>570907056
Cliques is just the memey way of saying that people prefer to talk to people they already know