/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1943

It took 69 months for the Frame to finally be released

longest 2weeks of my life
glad its over

TWO WEEKS HAVE ENDED
THE FINAL TWO WEEK HAVE BEGUN

>>581017285
was it worth the weight though

>>581017346
don't remind me of that

Asking in a new thread, how's the AVP with VRC and face tracking these days?

At least the fov is supposed to be good, I guess.

can the frame use a wired connection

What's the latency?
inb4 two weeks

no dupe

>>581017416
Definitely not worth $3499 that's for damn sure.

>>581017346
I can't even buy it in NZ and now I'm gonna have to buddy up with an NA to get it for me.
Or, I could get a kallax from IKEA and a couple dessicants and improve the life of my 3s.
Is the pico 4 an upgrade to the 3s or just a sidegrade?

>>581017526
nyo

>>581017526
I hope so

>>581017574
It's an upgrade because you're going to pancake and rear battery but a downgrade in SoC/Wifi

the poor mic quality is really unfortunate

>>581017526
Considering Valve added wired streaming to Steam Link recently, I assume it'll work there too.
It's going to be over USB though.

>>581017915
If it's like the quest, the trickle power from the usb cable will give out about 4-5hrs of wired gamen. More than enough for me for racing.

>>581017898
>only one reviewer so far that tried the mic
why are reviewers so worthless?
i remember there being audio from the mic around the time they announced it and it sounded good

>>581017176 (OP)
so I've been out of the loop with VR, but it seems like this isn't a huge upgrade compared to the Quest 3 unless I'm missing something? (very possible)

also I know this is done to death but have there been any noteworthy VR games that released in the last year? I tried the Thief VR game since I like imsims and I didn't enjoy it much.

>>581018120
>Games that released 2026
Forefront anon. Hit em with your best.

Have any reviewers looked at making the eye tracking work for VRC yet?

Is there a reviewer that talks about the screen and panel quality and resolution compared to the Q3? PPD in the center etc

>>581017526
the usb-port only has USB2 speeds (480 mbps) so it's going to be sub-optimal

I can't wait to buy a VR headset so I can finally play Balatro.

>>581017176 (OP)
HELLO THREAD
GREGG TALK
SEPTEMBER 26TH
EU 19:00 UTC
NA 9:00 PM EST
WATCH VIDEO FOR MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THIS SHIT WORKS
https://youtu.be/k13QM_mgSpg
DM craiglomaniac TO SIGN UP (apolocheese again if I am slow to reply)

ALSO THIS IS THE VIDEO I MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO
https://youtu.be/Iwpi1Lm6dFo?si=jBq5kCPUIyNnES5e

>>581018489
They're probably close to identical. GN said panels look about the same as well.

>>581018548
Many are saying this but it's to play Slay the Spire 2 VR MOD with motion control card grabbing and passthrough.

>it mogs my desktop's CPU

>>581018120
>it seems like this isn't a huge upgrade compared to the Quest 3 unless I'm missing something?
You're not. Only real difference is you pay an extra $600 and in return you get a device that you actually own. But if you don't care about that then not much of a reason to spring for it over a q3 desu.

>pic unrelated

>>581018676
is someone making this (slopping this)
i'll lose my shit

>>581017176 (OP)
Now that the dust has settled, what headset/FBT combo should I buy solely for ERP on VRC? I know nothing about VR
I assume I'd be okay with my headset being connected to my PC via a cable (less long-term radiation exposure with wifi disabled? Sounds preferable). My PC's a fairly strong desktop running windows 11, if that helps. I'm looking to spend $1,000 or less in TOTAL so the frame's out of the question, and I'm against what y'all seem to call "zuccware" so any variations of the quest are also off the table

>>581018809
what's stopping you from doing it?

>>581018658
About the same isn't enough. When the P4 Ultra came out we had shilltubers saying it was the same as the Q3, when it wasn't.

>>581018903
nothing really to be quite fair with you famaling

>terrible microphone
>terrible battery life
>no color passthrough
>no face tracking
>worse speakers than the index
>USB2 in 2026
>doesn't come with a power supply
>doesn't come with a charging dock
>lottery ticket needed just to get one
anything i'm missing?

>>581018903
JEBOT! FIRE THE SLOPCANON!

>I'll have to spend 2 months worth of figgie orders to buyfag a steam frame
I'm having second thoughts

>>581018489
This is from the tested review

do any of the GTA games still work in VR without some deprecated mod that rockstar sued the crap out of existence?

>>581019220
unfathomably grim

>>581019220
Do you know what streamer they used on the Quest 3?

>>581019150
>has a monthly budget for anime statues
GRIM

>>581019105
>doesn't come with a power supply
I'd be fine with becoming the norm, so long as high-quality usb cables are still included. I have half a dozen power supplies lying around, why would I want more.

I FEEL SO UNTOUCHED
AND I
WANT YOU SO MUCH
THAT I
JUST CANT RESIST YOU
ITS NOT ENOUGH TO SAY THAT I MISS YOU!
I FEEL SO UNTOUCHED RIGHT NOW
NEED YOU SO MUCH
SOMEHOW
I CANT FORGET YOU
BEEN GOING CRAZY FROM THE MOMENT I MET YOU!!!

found another reviewer testing the mic
https://youtu.be/_PEq2T_iAs4?t=505
sounds like actual shit

>>581019304
Steam Link because of the shitty foveation on the sides

>>581018772
The material on the face doesnt match the material on the body.

What the microphone sounds like quite literally isn't my problem. I don't have to hear it.

it's going to be fun in 2 days when only like 10% get a confirmation email
pandemonium

>>581019105
>no headphone jack
>charging port in a shit position
I don't even think the ultra-rich VRC coomers will buy this.

>>581019962

>>581020268
what should I buy if im a picky ultra rich newbie?

>>581019105
So unbelievably grim. Absolutely cooked. It will not do better than the index.
If we're lucky valve will make something better in another 7 years.
Until then, time to go third party. Bigmeme or Pico or something.

>>581019824
Yeah because anime faces are flat and stupid looking in a 3D space like VR

>>581020663
The face looks fine. It's the body material that sucks.

>>581019304
Pretty sure that's from both headsets in passthrough using the color camera addon for the Frame.

>>581021021
I hope it's the Arcturus cameras having screen door and not the display itself...

>>581019269
I've seen some vice city mod videos posted here, so I presume so

>>581019105
actually i forgot
>doesn't come with top strap, that's a $60 add on
>no hot-swap battery
>heavy chromatic aberration on the lenses
and from anons
>no headphone jack
>charging port on the back of the headset

>>581021124
anon I...

Okay so I want to get to the bottom of which version are you more likely to win the lottery with 256GB or 1TB.

Argument for 256GB:
- they have likely made ALOT more of these than 1TB ones, as we could see from the Steam Machine stats (can't find the source for this currently but I swear I saw it somewhere)

Argument for 1TB:
- although they probably made ALOT less of these, there probably are ALOT less buyers for these aswell

It's just that if you lose the lottery the wait for the 1TB one will be way longer cos they make less of them.
Some anon said that scalpers will go for the 256GB one, dunno if I agree.
The Frame is already super expensive, so if I was a scalper I think I would rather target the richfags and go for the more expensive one instead.
Please reply with your arguments anons.

>>581017176 (OP)
What headset/FBT combo should I buy solely for VRC ERP?
Pic unrel

>>581021124
The spines of the books being sharper is a pretty good indication that it's the display. Matches what we'd heard from older hands on impressions too.

>>581021328
QPro, lighthouses and Vive 3.0 trackers. This is undisputed.

>>581021260
I'll wait for non shilltubers to do reviews I think...

So if i have money to throw away like a retard and want to get into VR, is the steam frame good?

>>581021021
>>581021124
https://youtu.be/C9JyWAVj94E?t=989

if i get the steam frame, what are my fbt options?

>>581021270
just ask all your non-vr friends to enter the lottery on your behalf

>>581021643
It's probably fine. Just more expensive and not really meaningfully better than the previous generation of headsets is all.

>>581021643
all the other options are worse

>>581021672
i dont like this channel they are super detailed and they don't know anything about video games or how vr is supposed to be used by fat people its really annoying

>>581021971
>>581021975
Okay I will go all in then

https://rentry.co/ozainvzd

what is the best headset if i want face tracking? without having to sell my left kidney ofc

>>581022204
You can find a like new used Qpro or Pico 4 for about $300

>>581021270
I joined the 256GB list even though I have no intention of buying the Frame. I bet there are many others like me. We are probably less likely to click on the 1TB version.

>face tracking sensors for better accuracy

>>581021328
>>581021464
What about non-quest options, what's the next best?

>>581022204
Galaxy XR with military/edu discount, and preferably another promotion on top of that. You then call Samsung when you get it and threaten to return it, the jeet you're talking to will offer you another 10% off if you don't because that's the company policy. Brings it down to a much more reasonable price

>>581022204
Quest Pro
Don't fall for the Pico 4 meme if best facetracking is what you're after.

Oops, posted in a ded thread. shilling some more vibeslop https://file.hiina.space/rgbd-spectator/ . it's the point cloud meme again, using a vtol mod to record the depth map along with eye mirror pixels. Neat though hard to read when the plane actually moves. There are a few options for fade/persistence, not sure what approach works best yet.

>>581021270
I joined the 1Tb list, but I can see where your arguments are coming from. Still time to change the list before the deadline, a Quest is already cheaper then some 1049 bucks frame. So overall it's a hard decision, in my normie circles the Frame have kinda not been a big deal, so I think the amount of scalpers and buyers overall is low.

>>581017526
its usb2 my brother

G2 anon here. Simracing Chad. Creator of Bigshit Begone.

Is the Frame legit? Is $1k ok? Linux suppor? Buy yeah nah?

>>581023873
how the fuck are there still usb2 devices in 2026

It's insane that they've cheaped out on seemingly every component, even the ones that wouldn't be hampered by memory shortages. The panels suck and the extra velcro costs $60. It's insulting.

And another new project i'm calling "SLOP IS BAD (woa cool robots)". Still thinking about how best to do the controls. Here gipity decided to bind the shield/gun hands to the virtual hands in a toggle system, so if you toggle off you can touch things in the cockpit, but also move your hand and rebind so the 'real' robot hand is in a different pose relative. Kind of weird but it's growing on me. That plus the 6dof movement kind of reminds of the ded Space Junkies game's sword/sheield, which was actually fun, shame it died of mismanagement/weird ubisoft drama.

>>581024897
It doesn't even support Linux streaming, its Windows only for PCVR. I guess Linux VR is too niche even for Valve to give a fuck about. Maybe 2027 will be the year of the Linux desktop for real.

tldr it's not worth it

The Meme Frame might be comfy for EmuVR

>>581024960
what, you wanted it to cost $1500?
MADNESS

>>581025095
Slopping together underdogs.

>>581025147
Yeah. PCVR is just flat game ports now, so having VR controllers with Xbox parity is perfect. It helps that the sticks should probably be clickable without breaking. I couldn't think of a better design.

>>581025147
Can already use a normal gamepad for EmuVR I don't really see the point, however they're the only controllers to have all the buttons required to do UEVR with 6dof + motions controls + all the other buttons craps needed for a decent experience.

>>581025095
space junkies in webum related. Its other weapons were cool too, like the meme slingshot, bow, shake-to-recharge instagib, and this shield.

>>581025324
oh yea, forgot about that game. I should probably try it but it was a little too basketball american coded for me

>ThrillSeekers says it lasts 45mins in standalone

>>581025521
he looks good without the mask on lmao

>>581025456
Underdogs is OK but ruined by being a 'rogue-lite'. At least co-op is fun. Mechwarrior 5 is still one of the only decent VR Mech games, especially with them still making DLC for it so it has an obscene amount of content, and modders who give a fuck. Wish Vox Machinae had mods. Or a worthwhile campaign.

>>581025324
it does kinda look like underdogs lol
>>581025456
it's actually british nog coded you feel me mandem?

>Meta Quest Pro Standalone VR Headset Black with Controllers & Accessories
>$650.00 or Best Offer
Is this a good deal? Should I buy this as my 1st VR headset?

>>581025521
lemme guess they tried running some x86 pc game through five layers of emulation

SEAfags if I was to enter in on multiple accounts which unit would you be more likely to buy off me for cost+?
t.ausfag

>>581025114
Man fuck Valve lmao gayass retards.

>>581025114
wait is there seriously no linux streaming

>>581025703
you can find it cheaper im sure

>>581026008
Steam VR would have to work on linux first lmao

>>581025845
What gets me is that earlier they were advertising all their Steam hardware as working together in harmony. Another knock against the Steam Machine more than anything as even with all the delays Steam OS still isn't fully cooked. How was their plan to release everything later 25' or early this year when streaming and the standalone version of Alyx STILL aren't done?

>>581026008
Yeah, Windows only. That applies to other headsets you want to use their streaming software with too. Maybe someone will vibecode something.

>>581017524
>""""""good""""""
We'd only have good FoV if foveated rendering in VR games was the norm, but now it's too late.

>>581026008
Apparently flat game streaming works, VR streaming doesn't.

>>581026008
they're working on itTM

Is it worth getting steam frame for the prescription inserts? I don't got a heavy glasses prescription but the quest 2 I had years ago gifted to me was unusable with how blurry everything was with and without my glasses

wangblows chads win for the first time

>>581017898
Why does it matter? Aren't you all using voice changers to pretend you're women?

>>581026343
You can buy inserts for the Quest, anon

>>581026343
always get inserts for whatever headset you have
the price is so little compared to literally not scratching your lenses with your glasses and getting much bigger fov

>>581025703
You make six figgies just buy whatever you want.

>>581026343
literally nearly every headset has prescription inserts retardbro

>>581026446
Appreciate it. Is Steam frame worth getting then even if it's essentially a 600 dollar more Quest 3? I ain't doing anything on the VR headset itself, and will be streaming everything from my PC. That 6ghz dongle with the steam frame was main reason why I was intrigued. Granted I'll needa spend another 100 or so on the custom lenses and then another 150 if I want color pass through...

>>581026681
If you have money go Steam Frame
If you don't have money go Quest 3

>>581026506
Go home, anon-you'te drunk!

>>581026820
Steam frame it is yuh, now... has anyone figured out full body tracking yet? Or at the very least individual hand tracking? I kinda enjoyed that experimental feature (at the time) on the quest 2 where you can use your hands in view of the cameras on the quest 2 instead of your controllers

>>581026992
Same as Quest, though Fluxpose just confirmed that it can work natively when that comes out.

>>581026681
It's the only headset designed for PCVR streaming

>>581026992
No word on hand tracking but there will probably be 3rd party addons
Full body tracking is the same it ever was which is to use space calibrator mixed/hybrid setup like Quest or slimeVRs

>>581026681
Can you retards stick to gooning in XIV please?

>>581026681
>korra in vrg
HUZZ!!!!!

xiv trannies go home, we don't want your kind here

>>581027492
Been there done that, it's not fun and I ain't een tryna goon in skyrimvr fr, I just wanna hold my sword up to the sun and see the light shimmer off it whilst I rp I'm some knight or sum shit

>>581027296
>>581027226
>>581027054
Appreciate it a lot, was originally thinking after signing up on steam frame "the fuck am I buying this for over the quest 3 if I can just de-facebook the quest with that one rentry"

>>581027792
Hello, someone make a VR FFXIV mod

Not another fucking XIV reject.
You freakls are like locusts

>>581027917
There already is a mod for it but i never tried .,.,
https://github.com/WesleyLuk90/ffxiv-vr

what does your avatar have to do with vr games?

>>581025114
source?

>>581028332
GN review mentioned 2D game streaming works but VR doesn't. It'll probably work eventually.

>>581027917
>>581026681
>ebin
Stop giving me PTSD and go avatar thread in the right thread.

>>581028601
hes one of the good ones dont worry

>>581015825 (Cross-thread)

The hands only aren’t moving because I was testing the feet in desktop mode. They will be moving in regular vr obviously

femras truly are the worst

>>581017416
Apple locks down the face and eye tracking so no one has currently found a way to get around that.
Samsung’s Galaxy XR fully supports face and eye tracking though and looks great while being half the price with many used units selling for far less than the $1799

>>581028848
Meanwhile I can afford it. But it wasn't made for me. It was made for normies that will just buy a cheaper quest.
Valve really fucked up

So... now what?

>>581029034
>Apple locks down the face and eye tracking so no one has currently found a way to get around that.

I will shill the GXR, but pretty sure people have got the AVP face tracking working with Linux funnily enough.

>>581029239
wtf is this real?

>>581029239
Time to suffer one of the other headsets. Bigmeme, Pico, galaxy... the other steam vr native ones. I don't know. Gaben has forsaken us.

>>581029239
Your place in the lottery queue just dropped 500 spots

>>581029239
now we TWO MORE WEEKS post about when our hardware actually arrives

>>581028930
Femras rule this world

>>581027917
This is a cute character

bored
anyone wanna do anything

>komodo station on maintenance
LET ME IN LET ME IN

>>581030263
there's nobody on but we're here chillin on green

>>581029413
>1800 headset which you need to dremel to be useable

>but pretty sure people have got the AVP face tracking working with Linux funnily enough.
No, the closest is using the AVP avatar in facetime to then run face tracking on PC on the image of the AVP avatar

>>581029239
i look like this

>>581031535
k-kakoi...

>>581031531
>1800 headset which you need to dremel to be useable

>>581031535
dm me

>>581017526
it has pcie i/o slot. it can use external gpu, let alone a some for of display connection.

>>581031531
The gobular cluster mod is very comparable for the GXR. In fact I wear the thing 5-6 hours a day and barely even notice I’m wearing it. The only downside is the knob to tighten it is on the back so you have to get a little creative with how you sit against a wall or lay down

>b-but muh face tracking and eye tracking
>b-but my fov rendering
we can't even have retro-compatible controllers that don't break or start having issues such as drifting and you guys want stupid shit that doesn't add anything of value to a vr headset.
I rather have a solid VR headset with decent controllers than have one with extra features or gimmicks that don't have real use at least for now.

>>581027917
oh my god i recognize you, you were such a pain in the general, the frame is going to bring in so many problem people just like this
consider yourselves warned

>>581032350
if all you want is a headset with no features just buy a bigscreen beyond or something

>>581029239
literally me (catfish)

>>581019105
>>terrible microphone
it's great, only ones who claim it's terrible are vrc trannies
>>terrible battery life
liek every other standalone?
>>no color passthrough
again, who gives a fuck, its just to let me see something quick
>>no face tracking
again, only vrc degenerates care about tracking a MOUTH you faggot
>>worse speakers than the index
no, they are the same, idk where you pull that from
>>USB2 in 2026
you've got a FUCKING PCIE connection on and a SD CARD
>>doesn't come with a power supply
yeah that sucks, but i actually have a decent brick, it would only go in a closet
>>doesn't come with a charging dock
what standalone does lmao
>>lottery ticket needed just to get one
yeah cuz it's good and would be bought by scalpers (another degenerate faggot group like vrcshits)
>anything i'm missing?
most likely heathy relationship with your dad or anyone else for that mattet

>finally wireless vr without chinashit or zuckshit
>niggers still complaining
too autistic to function in society

>>581032103
Honestly, I think that's overkill. If you're decent with a sewing machine, a piece of foam that you sew a bit of velcro ontop and cover in any of the generic ice-silk fabrics, or just buy from the chinks at VRpanda, to replace the stock cushion which they made the baffling decision to not put any real fucking padding onto, was enough for me. I do agree that laying down is a bit of an annoyance, but I got one of those lounge pillows that keeps your head from laying flat and it's fine now.

>My husband wants one too
>Same address
Are we fucked?

We still quakin'?

it's up

>>581032719
love how they dunked on Meta simply by saying
>yeah everything is processed on device and never sent to us ever unless you specifically attach it in a support request

Is anyone here using aftermarket face tracking and or eye tracking with a Quest 3? What should I be going for since im giving up on the frame

Mic is Vive tier, what a joke. How'd they fuck this up after the index mic being so good?

>>581032968
So many retards, especially on twitter, have been screeching about that not being a big deal. But thats literally half the reason why I've kept using my index since launch despite it barely holding together these days. I've cannibalized at least 3 broken ones trying to keep it running.

>>581033217
software will fix this
trust the plan

very sad about the frame, quest 3 won 3 years ago already

>>581033217
They said before that it's a similar setup to Index. I'm guessing they just murdered the bitrate to improve latency or wireless performance or something. Should be pretty easily fixable.

someone should rip out the index mic and put it in the frame somehow

To anyone interested you will have many add-ons to buy and probably what many of you repulsive fags want is wired mode and it will have it.

Core module can be separated from the strap and that module is basically your main shit. Additional modules will be sold:
>"pro" module with better audio, straps, bigger battery and some other secret stuff (DP, face tracking wink wink)
>wired module that is basicity a DP connected to you PC and it also connects to power, like index, cheaper than pro

And many other kits are planned

It's not Slay the Spire but it looks exactly like what I was thinking about
https://github.com/McFredward/GloomhavenVR

>>581033824
>>wired module that is basicity a DP connected to you PC and it also connects to power, like index, cheaper than pro
aint no way they do this. they are doubling down on wireless.

>>580908825 (Cross-thread)
Quake is starting
Press join server

>>581033824
Gamer's Nexus already mentioned an enthusiast strap that has hot-swappable batteries and Index-style BMR audio. Would be cool to see a full wired strap though, even if it's just for power and still uses streaming.

>>581033963
Sad that the devs went under before they could adapt the expansions or Frosthaven.

who is the target consumer?

>>581029239
We get a new group of newfags for NA hours that hopefully dont immediately fall into the /trash/, frat hole. Which means I'll have to make an effort to host more so those shitshows arent the only instances on the weekends.

>>581034068
>The verge
Purpleheart tier post

guess I'll be clawing to my index for a bit longer

>>581034256
at least it's not just negroes like with the Apple thing

>>581032537
Why will it bring in problem people fr...

do those aliexpres aftermarket pico 4 eye tracker work for foveated streaming/rendering?
not interested in vrchat use at all just for foveated rendering/streaming

>>581032907
I just have two pillows side by side and I rest my head between.

And I’m sure I could have DIY’d a solution but the cluster mod was simple and I was already familiar with their stuff

>>581025095
slop's counterattack art pass.

>>581017176 (OP)
Am I more likely to win the lotto if I get a 1TB model?

>>581032569
>I want a headset with controllers
>recommends me a headset that needs basestations to work and has no controllers
larper

>>581032910
Yes. Valve doesn’t ship two of the same hardware to the same address people had this issue with the controller. Blame scalpers.

That’s of course if you even get one, they made like 50k total and that’s for the whole world

>>581034256
would clap those cheeks in a heart beat.

pssst

Tuesday's movie is Death Becomes Her
https://letterboxd.com/film/death-becomes-her/

Madeline is married to Ernest, who was once her arch-rival Helen’s fiancé. After recovering from a mental breakdown, Helen vows to kill Madeline and steal back Ernest. Unfortunately for everyone, the introduction of a magic potion causes things to be a great deal more complicated than a mere murder plot.

starting at 19:00 UTC as usual !

>>581032350
you're retarded

>>581034854
changed the way the arm control works to in-cockpit parkable controllers you can let go/grab again, so you can poke stuff in the cockpit. I think that works a bit better than the toggle.

>>581032682
I would agree with all of this, if the prices weren’t double the competition while having worse hardware in almost every category.

>>581034679
I would absolutely NEVER fuck with chinkshit aftermarket eye trackers.
That's a one way ticket to literally blinding yourself or otherwise causing permanent eye damage if you're unlucky.

>>581034797
You must have got it later then me, the CG mod was really late to the party which is why I didn't bother, though the replacement to the backstrap pad does look nice.

>>581034256
I'm black and will buy this.

>>581035023
and the meme sword. there's some estimation to try to get the robot body to not look silly when it thrusts around but haven't entirely succeeded yet.

someone tell me a bed time story ...

>>581035148
I got it the day FBF happened, it was a very funny coincidence. That’s also as long as I’ve been posting here

>>581035559
And the major irony is I got it from a warehouse that was liquidating, so my brand new Galaxy XR with controllers was $1300, effectively the cost of the 1tb steam frame.

>>581035061
I always wanted to pay extra for a quest pro 2 (that does nto exist) if they existed WITHOUT fucking facebook spying on everything i do.
This is it, i pay extra and get that a no spying from zuck cuck and some extras even like pcie slot for fun projects.
So with "competition" you pay just not with money.
For fags who do not care about privacy this is a good news as if next quest 4 or a pro come out with eye tracking they will have to cost less than steam frame to to be competitive.
I cant see any idiot paying 999 for quest pro 2 / quest 4 when they can buy no spy version for little emore

>>581035065
i want foviated shit :( how about some dyi kits?
and blinding oneself aside, do they WORK with steam foveated stuff?

Just want to remind everyone coming to NA explo that there is a theme tonight! No shoes allowed! Explorers present without bare feet will be asked to take them off or politely leave!

>>581036142
aftermarket eyetrackers only work with VRC, they do not integrate with the VR system, they just send OSC messages

>>581033968
I even tried Steam Link but doesn't seem to be a streamer runtime issue. Kinda my fault for not checking I could actually swap weapons on the server before. Oh well. You guys have fun.

>>581035989
Look I wish privacy was a thing as much as the next guy, I really do. But when every game tracks you, your isp tracks you, the very website we are using right now tracks you, and even your vpn lies about not tracking you, your phone tracks you, your car tracks you, and now even your television when turned off tracks you, you already lost the privacy war.

I appreciate valve directly not tracking me, but everything else around their service still does

>>581036425
my feet are metal spikes, am i doomed

lol fuck steam frame, for that money i'd rather add some more and get pfd

>>581036692
I fixed it in a new update

>>581036425

>>581036754
the last footjob you'll ever need in your life

>>581036692
try now, just got fixed. Working for me now and I was crashing on swap earlier

my shoes dont toggle
sigh

>>581036947
you have an hour to fix that

>>581036719
True, but steam frame does not and I would and will pay extra for that. Valve is not relevant, just option to have it.
If face sold "enterprise" or some such with 0 telemetry and shit for 2x price their next pro device, I'd buy it as wel if it's good.
Privacy is a fight. My tv, car, phone, etc do not track me.
Some thing do but i fight it as much as I can and minimize.
Don't give up the fight and especially don't sell for few hundred dollars.
even worst chink devices track less than zucuck

>>581036947
you don't need a toggle just keep them off

>>581036425
The only outfit where I'm barefoot is my swimsuit...

>>581037041
id have to draw feet textures

>>581036425
this post has been fact checked as TRUE by real vrg patriots

no one is actually into feet, stop making shit up

>>581036425
what if i don't have feet?

>>581036425
hmmmmm nyo

feel sick... sad... injured... everybody busy...

>>581034679
>do those aliexpres aftermarket pico 4 eye tracker work for foveated streaming/rendering?
No

>>581034679
It's very likely thanks to the new apis in steamvr we'll see hacky updates to make em usable for foveated rendering n shit.

>>581037107
Don’t forget the flock cameras tracking, the grocery store tracking you. Unless you’re using a retro Nokia, your phone absolutely does track you

>>581025095
whoa super cool brah. more gundam-y would be super cool. Sword clashes and all of that

>>581036425
Delet this

>>581038516
>thanks to the new apis in steamvr
You mean the existing ones that already work with other eye tracked headsets? The latency on those aftermarket setups is too high to be usable for those. It already only barely works on some headsets with eye tracking built in.

>>581035659
Man I’d kill for a cheap Galaxy XR

>>581033965
anon he means third-party

i dont know what im going to do if the frame is going to bring more xivg schizos here
emergency no newfag rule?

>>581036801
its nice you saved my gif anon
:3

>>581039478
crazy selfreport

>>581036425
Hey sister Yo sister
gunna lick some soles sister

Since the new adaptation just finished up, I'll be showing the 1995 Ghost in the Shell movie tomorrow night at 10PM ET (in ~25h) for NA anime movie night. I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.
Planning to do Innocence next week.

>>581039478
Get them to go to vrlg and hope they stay exclusively there.

>>581039673
how is it a selfreport, there are dozens of anons here sick of the mmo erper immigrants

where did all the good people go

>>581039774
Where do you think we are?

>>581034256
old ethnic women

>hurr duurrrr

>>581039789
We’re mostly all still here

>vr in 2026
>exactly the same as vr in 2010 but with ever so slightly better specs and lenses
>HIDs are still two stupid wiimotes
>feature compromise still a thing (you get eye tracking BUUUUT no color passthrough!!! ehe uwu)

Why is this such a failed venture and when are we getting real shit

>>581039478
wtf no don't do that
I want to join one of the future events, and I'm a random who only uses the thread.
DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME PLEASE

>>581039478
no no its good wer're getting new people. YOU have to be the person to talk to them at blue board meets and welcome them so they dont fall in the hole

>>581040507
better join the instances now

>>581040290
no not like that, like the thread is missing some anons recently

>>581040507
I bet you'd be real cute when I'm in you :3

>basically a smart phone attached to your face
>retarded developers still making stupid dog shit compromises left and right
eh

>>581040907
ok

I'm too shy to join any instances...

i EXPLODE Into confetti if anyone looks at me for more than 3 seconds and notices i exist

>>581041043
okay goofy lil nigga

>>581040768
Name 10

Any instances tonight? I crave socialization.

>>581041043
Join sea mahjong tonight. We'll be too busy wallowing at our failure of hands.

pretty worrying even the overly positive sloptubers weren't pogging about the frame in their reviews
gonna wait for anons to post reviews here in a few months before considering i guess... maybe a lot of the issues will be fixed somehow, but it seems really bad
atm

>>581041043
don't larp about that stuff, it's serious

>>581036425
lol no

Did they get rid of SteamVR Home?

>>581042086
i hope so its awful

>>581041445
I'm NA so I must sleep soon, as it turns out

>>581041656
but its true! i have 0 friends on vrchat!

>ctrl+f
>vrch.at
>0 results
Is everyone sleeping off the weekend, or something? Thinking about throwing up a karaoke instance if nothing else is going on.

>>581042214
youre doing this to mock me or something

>>581039789
im here
:3

>>581036425
cant believe im missing footfag explo today...

>>581039789
stuck at work or asleep mostly

>>581042389
But i dont know who you are .

Really regretting not just getting a psvr2 now that frame seems so disappointing for the price, might just wait for psvr2 if that comes back in stock or maybe that supposed to be coming soon walker headset. Still not sure.

I'm a guy that always plays with h3vr but I think I forgot how you even play the game without making it so my quest 2 is what's running the game itself. I'd use wired but idk man I'm just a noob with this stuff or I basically forgot how to do it.

>>581042754
1. you're pretending to be friendless and shy to ridicule those who are.
2. you would have responded in past threads.
3. stop.

all performative wallflowers will be raped

>>581043458
you will never see me wallflowering because i will leave the instance

wouldn't even be surprised if this new faker was evil anon. it's very in-character for him.

>>581043134
huh? h3vr has never been standalone

>>581042813
There's used units for sub 250 that people can't get rid of

>>581033968
thx for playing

We'll do more brutalist jam or maybe arcane dimensions next week

Let's explore.
https://anchor.vrg.social/
https://vrch.at/qbfs3vvc

>>581042214
>I must sleep soon
Do you have a job? If not, come join just once. See what we're about.

>>581044575

hey pypy instance is up:
https://vrch.at/9c2m5tdu

>>581044787
Not atm, i just have to be up super early on wednesday for some errands

trying to make friends in vrg instances is hard because when i mask my autism (which works on non autists i meet), no one in the vrg instance does it in turn and they look at me to lead the conversation like someone with confidence would but my confidence is completely false and then it gets quiet and awkward

>>581039789
We were all in my instance, where were you?

>>581045630
I've slowly managed to do it, I think some just got to get use to seeing you around and talk to you a few times which is reasonable.

I will join your instance and not talk. Just lurk

What accessories are worth getting with a Quest 3?

>>581046638
A turkish femboy

>>581045684
in the thread, in bed
did you have a good time

Anyone want to cuddle and sleep? Maybe kiss a little or more if you want...

>>581044575
DO NOT CLICK SARRR!

>>581046820
Yes, thank you for asking. I will now join you in bed.

>>581032682
>>terrible microphone
>it's great, only ones who claim it's terrible are vrc trannies
are you the same guy that pretended the quest pro mic being "fantastic"

>>581035210
Nigger

>>581046967
Don't waste time replying to bait.

>>581044575
Someone did it! :'(

Is it worth caring about the Frame if I've already got an Index and have no desire to use VR without my PC?

>>581047243
No. Don't be controlled by fomo.

>>581036425
>30 people at explo
>only 4 people not wearing shoes, only 1 one of which is barefoot
I WAS LIED TO

>>581033968
I love the parking garage vibes. Might be a Sentai Daishikkaku reference.

>>581044575

>>581047243
Aside from the mild upgrade in visual quality, the main consideration is hardware longevity. There is likely to be a time in the not-too-distant future when finding e.g. replacement controllers, new cables or new base stations will just not be possible unless someone new picks up the mantle. The frame is both likely to be supported for longer and has some genuine benefits in that the controllers no longer rely on built-in batteries that will eventually die and the tracking no longer relies on base stations with moving parts.

>>581047340
>he doesn’t have his mouthful of nemfeet
Why even live?

>>581034894
>Been meaning to watch Death Becomes Her
>Busy during that time

>>581044575

>>581029239
Now I hold onto my index until an actual dedicated PCVR upgrade exists that isn't zuccshit

hey guys tupper vrchat here

just wanted to say to every anxious new friend, none of us are here to hurt you and we're very happy to see you in our instances.

But theres something you should really know . its called a Trap Door.

if you mess up ONCE, the trap door opens below you, and theres 3 whole phantom alligators down there in the pit to eat you
Thats right. 3 entire phantom alligators. Where did they come from?? why did mike put this in my game

and well, honestly, no one will remember your fuckup. we're gonna want you to hang out with us again next time. But the alligators? they will remember. dont let the alligators get you.

has anyone gotten quest face pads/head and controller straps from aliexpress?

>>581047697
i did manage to nibble on some melfeet

>>581040768
Been busy with other things. It's been long enough that I got the email prompt and 4 rape captchas again.

>>581046638
The bobovr s3 pro plus a second battery. You'll also going to want to replace the facial interface, but that's really what is comfortable for you. They aren't much money. A carrying case also to protect it all even if you don't travel. Plus Kimtech Delicate Task Wipers which are great for cleaning optics. People use them to clean million dollar scientific equipment.

I can finally make SEAjong tonight... I'm so excited ! :D

Survey:
VR model:
Price paid:
Top 3 most played games:

>>581048779
Lucky
I can't make it to seajogn and I'm going to cry

>>581047001
love you too

so is the bigmeme really that shit? seems like a pcvr frame atp. I want a nicer display and I have an Index, was kinda banking on the Frame not being shit. between BSB2E and some Pimax

>>581048971
I like my BSB2E, but it's wired and you need to buy base stations. I'll take it over the alternatives as I don't like how nerfed the Frame ended up being.

>>581048819
q3
$350 used on fb marketplace 2 years ago
vrc, vtol, beat saber

>>581044575

***MARTINI MONDAY ALERT***
10pm MST / 12am EST

>>581048554
Pic related plus my golf club.

>>581049592
>kimwipes
you coom that much??

>>581048819
>VR model:
Quest 2
>Price paid:
111 Euros
>Top 3 most played games:
Thrill of the Fight
Walkabout Minigolf
Resident Evil 4

I need a kipfel to live or else I'll cry

>>581044575

>>581049679
My latest fetish is living onaholes, with a preference towards amputates vs tranformation.

>>581049396
quack!

>>581044575
Place (MY PC IS DYING!) Japan.

Given VRchat doesn't have a web browser are you people that are playing just keep switching from the game to a browser to see posts?

>>581044575
>>581050198
Yeah!?

>>581050198
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1173510/XSOverlay/

>>581050198
There's only a couple dozen people on on a Monday night and the vast majority of them do not post in the thread.

>>581050623
So here then?
>>>/trash/85324962

>>581051120
You are clearly very nosy ;)

>>581050198
I usually check the thread whenever I go piss or refill a drink or something since it's on my monitor

>>581044575
Average rindo user home.

>>581044575

>>581051542
Looks like a submission for Spookality.

>>581050530
Interesting, so I guess this doesn't work with VDXR.

>>581050198
I just use default steam vr overlay

>>581052023
same

>>581035269
bit more bitstarved slopgress. I added a throttle that does about what you'd expect, constant forward velocity, like vox machinae but space. and a 6dof joystick you can use for precise maneuvering.

>>581052437
more 6dof translation/maneuvering. While holding the shield/sword 'hand controllers' you can still do planar maneuvering/boost with the joysticks on the actual controllers (but have to pick whether you do up/down translation or pitch on right joystick Y axis). All angular velocity gets damped fast (minovsky particles 'n shit), maybe could keep some autistic sim mode in where it's not.

>>581051921
If you're using SteamVR through VD it should work, but if you're using a standalone OpenXR runtime then no.

>>581052720
also a sort of jank 'scope' when you "look down the sights" of the rifle. Not sure if I like it over e.g. vox machinae's scope popup screen, but very easy to slop up prototypes and just see how they feel.

Does the steam frame have a quick-mute button for the microphone?

It's important because I fart a lot and have gotten negative comments on that before.

>>581053159
Could you do a 3D situational awareness map like in Elite Dangerous?

>>581046870
I guess not... goodnight vrg...

>>581044575
still remember this

>>581053823
I'm at work
Goodnight anon. I would've given you a hug.

>>581053512
feasible yeah. I'm not actually enough of a gundam-head to like know what the canonical mobile suit cockpit is actually supposed to have in it so it's just slop vibes + what I remember from vtol/vox and think would feel good. Suggestions welcome, and also on what larger gameplay should actually be like. I'm assuming vaguely star wars squadrons "space battle", but I also remember 17 years ago playing shattered horizon and kind of liked the space shooty gameplay it had. That or more goofy space junkies instagib and pvp stuff.

where is grimwing
i miss grimwing

The Steam Frame release really hit home how much AI is reducing quality of life.
It's like 50% more expensive than it would've been without the RAM and storage crisis, meanwhile there are less people who can even afford these kinds of toys because their jobs are being taken over by AI, which in turn means there's less incentive to cater to this niche.

I miss pomnianon

Frame should have been dedicated PCVR and three decision not to go that route killed vr gaming forever. Thanks valve. You suck.

>>581054275
me neither anon I'm just thinking of what's cool. I figure you could go just about any direction between arcade and simulator. I think most relevant to you from VTOL is stuff like the targeting pod head tracking and some sort of 360/3D missile or threat warning

>>581054659
Frame should have been a dedicated PCVR. Agreed.

>>581054670
are there any autistic gundam/macross mods for VTOL out there I can reference? That path also occurred to me since vtol has basically all you need except the 'jets with arms' part, but also slopping godot is extremely easy.

>>581036425
Uhh based? Wish I could've went!

>>581054659
barely anyone can even afford a gaming PC anymore, much less one that can push the resolutions and framerates that make VR bearable.
Have you checked lately what a state-of-the-art GPU costs?
VRAM prices are what's killing PCVR, Valve are just navigating themselves through this mess.

>>581055125
it was fake

Did any reviewers test PCVR foveated rendering over wireless?

>>581045136
good pypyin' pypyers

>>581042191
if you uninstall steamvr home you never go into it

>>581055069

>>581054613
qrd on the bunch of people are missing from SEA instances?

stay in your fucking lane

>>581055676
dont worry about it kitten

>>581055676
left because vrg is a shithole

>>581055676
we don't talk about it... we CAN'T talk about it...

>>581049454
MARTINI TIMEEEEE
https://vrch.at/zbsbt0mw
https://vrch.at/zbsbt0mw
https://vrch.at/zbsbt0mw

>>581048819
>VR Model:
Pico 4 Enterprise
>Price Paid:
$389 after shipping
>Top 3 Most Played Games:
VRC & Beatsaber- Curious about RE4/Skyrim VR

>>581055676
Temporarily fixed my sleep schedule

>>581055676
We are so fuckih back.

>>581055676
the brisbane incident...

The steam frame is so expensive that I feel like im going to be stuck on my q2 forever. The q3 is half the price and 90% as good. But its sending my feet pics to facebook.
At this point do I just wait for the quest 4.

>>581059854
I'm waiting on the dedicated pcvr frame 2 coming 2036 so I can finally replace my valve index.

>>581044575

Me when the cute kipfel kitty won't let me headpat
https://youtu.be/IQzs-XhiZ-E?

>>581021270
The scalper argument comes from what the scalpers are like. In the steam machine, the ebay listings were the majority (60%) not professional scalpers. They were also mostly the 512GB version.

>>581059854
Get the Meta Phoenix. I'm replacing my Quest 3 with it.

>>581021643
tl;dr yes
Even with all the complaints it is still the best headset on the market.

>>581025703
Terrible first headset. Get a quest 3 instead. The quest pro is only appealing for one thing: Face tracking. In every other metric it is worse than the quest 3 for more money.
And no it can't even do foveation properly as the eye tracking is too low latency.

>>581021270
In japan they didn't do a lotto. I Think this basically proves that the 1TB is the one to get for better chances.

Frame is worse than the index althoughbeit

>>581060550
lmao

>>581055280
rape 6 times

>>581059854
If you're waiting for the quest 4... then it will also send your feet pics to zuckerberg. Just get a Q3.

>>581061198
Id assume the quest 4 will have foveated streaming which is really the biggest selling point of the frame.

my last hope now is HTC.

>>581059854
Move onto a Quest 3 for the face tracking after your Q2 eventually fails.

>>581062381
>Quest 3
>Face tracking

>>581061891
lmao

>>581055676
IRL things, I'll be back in a month.

>>581062652
There is an addon for the Q3 for it.

>>581062892
I miss you

>>581062964
I miss you too, anon.

https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_18e01005-beb8-4a28-bb74-f789de8494a7
Cool world and actually kinda playable you can spin your balls.

>>581063478
one of the better sports worlds

>>581060803
>there are more poors than not
shocking

>>581063736
Exactly, if you're willing to spend more to increase your chances are you really going to bet against poor people being poor

Casual SEA mahjong in 2 hours from now.

Don't know how to play?
That's fine, neither do I.

>>581063261
Want to make out?

>>581062381
>face tracking
To roleplay as a furry?

Am I retarded for sidegrading from a Q3 to the steam frame?

>>581064991
Maybe. Depends on what you want. If you want a more moddable headset without being zucced then sure it's fine. But if you just wanted eye/face trackig the paper trackers would have been better.

>>581064991
Kinda but I'm a little tempted to do it too

>>581061080
WHY 6?

Windows key
Type in 'Data Usage'
Under more settings click Data Usage
Screenshot and post results

>>581065637
>discord

>>581064591
No to roll my eyes when some of you say something retarded.

>>581065637
Bintage Story!

>>581064991
I say this as someone who thinks the Frame is fucking retarded and has been, and will continue, to shit on it. It is an upgrade to the Q3, but it's not a 1,000 dollar upgrade by any measure. If you've got the techbro money printer and lack something to spend it on, you're not lighting your money on fire getting one to play with, but I do think that it's a very dumb purchase if you at all care about your money because you should either stick with your Q3 or get one of the various much more significant upgrades already on the market.

>>581065637

>>581057504
>Curious about Skyrim VR
Its fine.
Needs a lot of mods to get it working good.

>>581066326
>If you've got the techbro money printer and lack something to spend it on
this is me at the moment to be honest
ive got a quest pro and im very tempted to get a frame to be back in the steam ecosystem as well as not have to worry about my drifting controllers anymore (after replacing the thumbsticks 3 times now)
honestly i dont know what other headset would be an upgrade over the quest pro that i already have, but being able to rejoin the ecosystem seems like a pretty great pro to me

>>581066598
Galaxy XR would be the actual major improvement over the QPro, and while mine does have it's annoyances, the only time I've ever been tempted to go back to my Q3 was to use the Quest controllers for playing ITR without burning my Knuckle's thumbsticks remaining time.

I've said this many times, but while the sticker price on the thing is absurd, you can easily get 20% off of it with zero waiting, and Samsung is almost always running a promotion which also stacks with the mil/edu discount which you can get by just having a friend with one of those help you. With a 20% discount from those, and another 10% if you're willing to waste 10 minutes calling their support to threaten to return it, you're looking at 4k OLED at 90hz with eye and face tracking for a pricetag that's somewhere around the 1TB frame once you add controllers to the XR. It's not perfect, but it is very good for PCVR unless you want to gamble on one of the chink options, whether that's PFD or continuing to be a waitfag for the Pico Swan before committing.

>>581067132
Your purchase is funny and identifiable:
First wait for a sale
Then get a military discount
Then call customer support and angrily complain about it
THEN it's worth it
lmao

>>581065187
1 for R while D watches and 5 for L

Is there even a single reason to get the frame to replace my index? To me it looks like more of the same but with worse accessories

How do I stop getting overwhelmed and drained over literally nothing?

do the controllers have all the gimmicks the index controller does? this determines my purchase or not

>>581067132
Does the xr do eye tracking/streaming

>>581067343
Shrooms

>>581067967
Its been awhile. Might be that time again I guess.

I mean I entered in the 256GB raffle, but I'm a bit unsure. Is it still too early to tell, or are these reviewers a good source? I still can't find any info about simracing. Obviously Linux support is cucked. Maybe the streaming would be fine and not a blurry laggy piece of shit? I'm wondering if I'll be getting better framerates compared to a wired PCVR headset though, or does the Frame render the exact same thing and it just streams it? The G2 for example I think had to make you render a much higher resolution because of the lens design or some shit.

The VRC flight week map is wonderful, the unabashed love for the military industrial complex brings a tear to my eye. I don't think it's a coincidence it ends on the day Ace Combat 8 has the advanced access begin.

I'll take a moment to also shill Skyward Flight Media which does a lot of writing on VR flight games and even on specific VRC worlds.

https://www.skywardfm.com/post/vrchat-flight-week-2026-why-it-matters

>>581067183
I don't understand your point. I don't give a fuck that there's some people I've talked about doing this who can cross reference it with these posts, especially since it actually proves the point that I own one and am not just mindlessly shilling, and cheaper is always better then giving Samsung extra money.

>>581067960
Yea, eyetracking on it is amazing, I thought I would hate gaze and pinch as an OS but it actually works really well for anything less precise then typing on a keyboard, and foveated streaming is a major game changer. I can push my bitrate down to like 100 mbps within VD to minimize the latency penalties of using AV1 encoding, and the only substantial artifacting I notice is gray banding when looking a 0,0,0 black screen like the void when you're loading into the pool parlor in VRC, while regular dark scenes still look fine, and some small shimmer in the periphiral because VD doesn't apply a blur like Steam Link does. Steam Link looks even prettier because the hacked API made by the community pushes super resolution within the foveated region, but has some issues atm. Funnily enough, I was reading today and there's a Valve dev in the community discord that's working on making Steam Link work for the XR and he wants to piggyback off their work.

Face tracking also works super well, it's issues lay mosty in how it does the tracking universe; VD and AndroidXR combining their shitty programming to be fucking miserable at points, which is why I've been following the Steam Link apk development; and a lot of very basic QoL VR stuff like room boundaries

1059 USD is 918 EUR...

>>581068973
I'll take the 100€ extra fee over the 25% VAT I'd have to pay ontop of it if it wasn't included.

>>581069268
Relateable

>>581069268
Never understood why people went to The Black Cat, just inferior to The Great Pug for public instances. Then again I haven't joined public instances since 2019.

>>581069404
the black cat is basically the pug for questfriends

>>581069268
sahur!!!!!! mr sahur!!!!

>tfw the pug will never be optimized

I need a kipfel to lovebomb and adore and cuddle before I start crying

SEA Mahjong is live:

https://vrch.at/6vnc3v2k

>>581070831
>more than one table
This is a psyop...

>>581053159
this is honestly so cool
Do we have more anons slopping VR vidya and mods?

>>581071712
H and J are probably the biggest sloppers right now. Their stuff is janky but playable and fun.

>>581071712
Maybe

>>581067132
>>581068481
while i am tempted, going from an index to a quest pro kindve burned me out on leaving the steam-o-sphere and having everything just work, no 3rd party finagling needed or steamlink/virtualdesktop juggling hoping that the version for my headset will be fine
my biggest complaints with the quest pro is steamlink only giving so much bitrate and VD never working well for me in various reasons, and comfort/weight, all of which seem to be fixable with the frame
i dont need 4k realistically, 2k per eye is fine so long as i can get good bitrate, OLED would be nice but not a dealbreaker
also steam support i know is reliable vs meta telling me to go fuck myself and probably samsung or pico at some point doing the same

got long hair right now but considering a buzz to make vr feel better lads any tips

>>581073258
Buy a mains powered wahl. Lasts a lifetime.

>>581073258
I use neck gaiters over my hair/forehead

>>581073383
i been doing a fucking top knot but it makes me feel like a faggot

FPSloppa has reached mostly stable, functional state. It's not super optimised, fullbody is so-so at best and there's definitely some balance and networking issues but at this point it's feature complete so I can just slop fixes to bugs as they emerge. Server with some bots is running on 45.147.228.101 for anyone that wants to try breaking it.
https://github.com/jebot-git/FPSloppa/releases/tag/0.14v

are there any VR walking simulators

>>581074152
tea for god

>>581074264
china changed bro

>>581074264
he really changed while he was gone these last 3 weeks...

>>581048819
q2
200
vrc

>>581048971
I had zero issues with my BSB2E, but I've no intention fighting people in anonymous threads while they keep shitting on it. Far as I'm concerned, really glad I bought it, it's a great headset.

>>581074558
I have a beyond 1 and I'm considering upgrading since nothing else really checks all the boxes of wired, high end, lighthouse tracked headset.

>>581046180
what if it's just the two of us?

>>581071269
Half those people on the picture dont even go to sea instances anymore

every influencer is covering it but its lottery system and few regions only. how the fuck can i ever get it in my bumfuck country. SIGH .. ..

>>581076805
First time? We knew it was a lotto since forever. IF you want a frame RIGHT NOW, fly to japan and buy one from komodo.

wish i had an index so i could upgrade to bsb2 instead

>>581025095
add in armor value penetration systems like in helldivers and my autistic ass will be playing your gayme until i die

verity mahjong

>>581032682
>terrible microphone
>it's great, only ones who claim it's terrible are vrc trannies
so it's terrible then, cool
glad that we somehow still cannot make a better headset than the index

>>581077403
you guys are.....cruelty!!!!!!!!!!!!

So what can I meaningfully upgrade to from an index that isn't using zucc malware?

>>581077647
frame

>>581060803
wrong gajin, high trust society issue

>>581077403
ohhh my days

>>581077823
Depends on how much of a difference foveated streaming really makes, comfort is of no issue to me so I really don't see much of a reason to spend a thousand dollars on what looks to be the index 1.5 with somehow worse accessories. I guess the controllers being battery swappable is very nice but still.

>>581077909
Anon, nobody loves lottery systems more than Japan.
I had to sit in a lotto draft several times just to eat at a theme Cafe once.

>>581078003
Eh make a bad decision if you want, but you've had 9 months to decide if you want a frame or not.
What people don't want to hear is this: The frame is the best headset on the market.

>>581077403
Finally verity

>it's just an Index with foveated streaming!!!1
I swear to god some of you are tech illiterate or paid off by zucc.

>>581077823
you don't even have it to even have an opinion doe

>>581078102
not true
people didnt know how bad it was until all the reviews dropped yesterday

>>581078102
I don't really think so, desu.
Best entry point for sure, but best headset is very debatable.

>>581078182
I did say you didn't want to hear it.

>>581078103
hey its me its verity ask me anything i know about a million things ill do everything whats the capital of france oui oui oui oui it is paris merci

>>581078142
Okay explain how its not a worse index for anyone not intending to use the dogshit standalone meme.

>>581077934
the way you pilot him makes him look so retarded

>>581078302
Your loss.

verity explo when!!!!!!!!!!

Hey, its me, its Verity. Ask me anything!

>>581078246

>>581077403
That guy has me muted for some presumably childish reason

>>581078246
i mean the 9 months to decide part

>>581078551
Thanks for providing a picture of all the better headsets.

>>581078765
You think they'd have delayed it this much if the software wasn't a buggy mess that didn't work? If this isn't exactly what you were expecting you simply were not paying attention.

>>581047697
I've licked nemesis feet before.
I almost came instantly.

>>581078562
there are 2 guys in that photo

>>581078562
Verity wouldn't do that...

>>581078926
ask him anything

>>581078503
balls orr knott?

whats the capital of france?

newfag here, got a couple of questions:
>does the majority here use the standalone client or PCVR to play VRChat? Does PCVR have more features and allow for easier modding?
>Am I correct under the assumption that 99% of Windows PCVR players are using the SteamVR runtime (Steam Link, ALVR, VirtualDesktop-SteamVR) and not Meta Horizon Link? Any differences there?
>Is there no way to launch VRChat with an OpenXR runtime/compability layer like VDXR/OpenComposite/Monado on Windows due EAC? And the reason exactly this works on Linux with WiVRn+XRizer is because EAC works differently (user mode only) on Linux?
>Are there working examples or ongoing attempts of using VRChat with Passthrough and depth occlusion for real Mixed Reality? I do not care about chroma key methods, only real depth testing and occlusion.
>Any custom SteamVR overlays or layers you guys run?

>>581079216
IT IS PARIS MERCI

>>581078562
im saying falsity

What the fuck is happening

ngl even if frame was 650$ id be disappointed
dont care about mobile hardware for premium or budget prices
wheres our real pcvr headset

>>581079272
1. I think it's about 50:50, but we're WAY above average. The steam VR average is like 70:30 standalone:wired.
2. Most use virtualdesktop. Those who use pico tend to use their runtime since that works fine, and those who plug a cable in tend to use meta link since it supports the cable.
3. uhhh there's no EAC on linux builds basically
4. uhhh dunno
5. xsoverlay is the one I use but there's some decent free ones now

>>581079479
im verity and i know everything btw

>>581079479
lovity

>>581079479
hey, its me.

>>581079547
>wheres our real pcvr headset
Anon... PCVR died 3 years ago.

>>581079547
Sorry bro
Apparently every gaming pc in the world up and suddenly vanished and no longer exist and no one has one, that's why every vr kit has to cater to spics and children by being a glorified mobile phone now

>Cave map
>Not horror
>Tunnel which forces your lights off
Haha im not scared...

>>581079272
>does the majority here use the standalone client or PCVR to play VRChat? Does PCVR have more features and allow for easier modding?
Nobody's using standalone. Everyone's on PCVR. PCVR can access more/better worlds, and better avatars. Modding isn't really a thing anymore.
>Am I correct under the assumption that 99% of Windows PCVR players are using the SteamVR runtime (Steam Link, ALVR, VirtualDesktop-SteamVR) and not Meta Horizon Link? Any differences there?
Vast majority are SteamVR due to QoL with overlays and extensions (XSOverlay, OVR Advanced Settings, VRHandsFrame, etc.)
>Is there no way to launch VRChat with an OpenXR runtime/compability layer like VDXR/OpenComposite/Monado on Windows due EAC? And the reason exactly this works on Linux with WiVRn+XRizer is because EAC works differently (user mode only) on Linux?
There may be a way, perhaps with the Oculus PC version of VRChat (is that even still a thing?) but I just don't think anyone really bothers. Only potential benefit is slightly better performance but the tradeoff is again the QoL you get with SteamVR extensions and overlays, since there's no alternative stack on Windows for that (like there is with WayVR etc. on Linux)
>Are there working examples or ongoing attempts of using VRChat with Passthrough and depth occlusion for real Mixed Reality? I do not care about chroma key methods, only real depth testing and occlusion.
You may very well be the only one here who would give a fuck about this. Have at it.
>Any custom SteamVR overlays or layers you guys run?
The two major ones are XSOverlay (or OVR Toolkit) for nicer desktop access and OVR Advanced Settings for Playspace Mover functionality and some more advanced tinkering/debug with pairing. Popular but less common: VRHandsFrame for live translation, capturing GIFs, and goofy AI image commentary. Tons of other more niche ones like OyasumiVR for sleepers, Turn signal for wired setups, etc.

>>581074264
>>581077403
>>581077912
>>581077934
Mahjong without Yuki seems based

>>581080819
verity + lovity = welcome to mahjong brother

>>581080819
mahjong with verity*

>>581079604
thanks, appreciate it. the pico runtime is probably signed with a certificate and on EACs whitelist, hence it works as well.

>>581080819
hey its me its yukity

oui oui oui...
c'est paris...

who is Verity

Maybe NA was right to hate my verity bit

>>581081059
chatgpt will generate me anything

nothing to look forward to now...

>>581080819
Isn't that the default state of SEA mahjong?

>>581081140
do you live alone? is anybody home?

>>581081345
i was in the same position just a few weeks ago. look towards yourself brother

>>581032682
Forgot to mention Gabe is not jacking it spying your kids through the cameras and mic as any quest item you get.
It seems that your privacy at that level is worth the 300€ (pre RAM crisis) meta is not charging you. Anyone agreeing with meta terms is probably ok with qhoring himself out as long as he's drugged.

Damn, every gun prefab I'm looking at on booth is either extremely over the top and requires extensive use of different gestures on both hands (which my index can't do reliably) and is also taking up as many resources as half an avatar by itself somehow, or is so extremely rudimentary that it only works on menu toggles, and it feels like it's impossible to find anything inbetween that just fires when the trigger is pressed when held in the hand.

>>581082150
Gamersnexus blew that wag out of proportion. You can disable nearly all of that as the agreement says itself

>>581082181
Make it yourself?

we have no need for sea mahjong anymore this is verity watchalong

>>581070831
Thanks for coming!

i have a quest 2 , so anything is an upgrade. but i still kinda wanted to be blown away by what a 2026 headset could do.. like amazing displays or something..

the quest 3 seems dated and lame as an upgrade, and bsb2 ecosystem is like expensive discontinued tech you should have owned since 2020.

>>581082483
falsity, sea jong will live foreverty

hey its me its verity

>>581082749
thanks lovity

>>581082685
Petition to put mahjong on hiatus in favor of a hangout instance for a couple weeks.

>>581080795
>You may very well be the only one here who would give a fuck about this. Have at it.
Are you sure about that? Just so you know: You can clamp the depth data from passthrough sensors to max 1m/40inches. The result being that anything beyond 1m (your arms reach) is always virtual reality while anything within the range gets depth tested with real reality. The artificially limited depth range (0.2m -1m) results in very precise depth data resistent to encoding artifacts. visualizing sleeves, gloves, rings or even fur over your real hands/arms suddenly becomes feasible and very realistic looking. and if you attach a tracker to a real reality object and sync it in vrchat with osc or whatever, you can do some cool things. wish I had a good example now. unfortunately all I can think of is attaching a tracker to my dog and giving him virtual lazer turrets that appear mounted on his back, while the non occluded part of the dog (like his head, legs, tail and lower body) are still visible. then have some virtual foes approaching which are targeted and destroyed by the virtual lazer turrets. but I guess it only makes sense if we have VR headsets for dogs as well. (obviously a joke, this would be animal abuse)

>>581082774
ask me anything!

>>581082843
fuck off niggerty

>>581082843
but we hang out on wed, fri, sometimes sat, and sun

>>581082740
You got that with Apple and Samsung last year, you just didn’t buy them

>>581082685
im in lovity with you all

>>581082685
Old pic

>>581082843
dont act like cruelty we need mahjongity

>>581082920
How do i play mahjong

>>581080795
The Oculus PC version of VRC uses the Oculus runtime and I could not get it to boot properly with Virtual Desktop at all. At best I got stuck in offline mode. Last time I tried was like a year ago I think.
It's fucking sad the biggest PCVR program doesn't support OpenXR at all.

>>581080795
>Modding isn't really a thing anymore.
Although it's worth mentioning, that VRChat Avatar and World SDK is so open, I'd say it's basically modding.

>>581038730
I'm not from US, I pay others in cache to shop for me and if I don't I buy in market and pay in cache. I use Linux phone and I maintain it's system.
Don't be a jerk. You absolutely can not give a fuck about privacy but that does not ones who do are in any way inferior to you.
Quest 3 is like ~700 EUR here. Steam Frame is ~1200. I'd gladly pay for a quest 3 pro (regular Q3 + eye tracking and no zuck tracking) 200-300 EUR more, so 1000 EUR if it existed and that's close to steam frame.
Steam Frame is that and more for additional 200~. Simple math for me and seems more that just worth it.

Now if you're gona be a dick instead of normal conversation, go jump on zucks in your q3

>>581074152
Outer Wilds VR (singleplayer)/Big Walk VR (multiplayer)

>>581082869
Most people here just wanna be anime girls bro, we're all about the escapism, but it sounds cool. if that's something you want to play with I'm sure you could get some people interested.

>>581083203
You get four sets of 3, either 3 of the same card, or 3 sequences (1-2-3/4-5-6 etc) then one pair of two, either doubles or a sequence, then you need the matching wind card. It’s just getting rid of cards until you find the hand you need to win

>>581040290
these "vrchat" retard group photos always remind of special slam poetry
i bet most of you look like that irl

>>581083312
>Don't be a jerk. You absolutely can not give a fuck about privacy but that does not ones who do are in any way inferior to you.

I wasn’t saying I don’t care. I was saying that your privacy is already nonexistent. Even outside the US.

>>581083461
hey it’s me
it’s verity

>>581083503
Ah yes, the old "We already fucked up so let's just not even bother" argument.
After all, if one house burned down, might as well burn down the whole neighborhood while you're at it.

>>581077495
elite/pro module will have superior mic/headphones as well as larger hot swappable battery and DP output / usb C high speed
i cannot tell you how i know that

>>581083461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xE9yBttGRw

>>581083562
whats the capital of france?

>>581083718
oui oui oui! it is paris!

>>581083503
Privacy is not a yes/no. It's as spectrum. You can absolutely lower your fingerprint A LOT. Example is buying steam frame over quest3(pro) for more money.
But yes, total privacy is a pipe dream if you wanna stay connected to modern world but you can always make choices.
Steam/epic game/gog?
meta quest/steam headset?
random android phone/linux phone?
windows/linux? etc
No choice is "bad" unless you you want more privacy and choose, windows over linux for example. But if someone is ok with windows privacy issue, that it fine choice as well.
Like ive said- id pay extra for a headset that is more private and has all important things i need and Steam Frame fits that.

I will be hosting the Ur Mr Gay Movie on the 26th at 9 PM EST. Its an edit of the Super Mario Galaxy movie by the same people who made the Minecraft All Bricked Up edition.

Guys, hear me out
What if
Standalone headset, but instead of a phone processor, AMD Z2/Intel G3 from a handheld PC?

>>581084349
what if you were verity and knew everything

>>581084421
then anon would know just about a million things, wouldn't he?

Most interesting thing in this hangout chill world was the prefab drink physics.

why is it okay when seafags shit up a thread? yuki protection money?

>>581084286
Oh, sounds fun, I'll try to come. Haven't seen it yet.
Just gotta wake up at 9am on saturday... I can do it...

>>581084286
Should I watch the original first or is it better to go in blind?

>>581084737
this anonity hates funposting

>>581084737
oui oui oui

>>581084970
The original galaxy movie is fun in its own regard. I could put up an instance this Friday if theres enough interest but with the case of the minecraft movie enough people were satisfied with the v4c edit of that.

is it funposting when you only post your own name or whatever?
thats selfishposting anon

>>581084349
Slightly higher performance with more heat and a fraction of the battery life.

>>581084286
haven't seen the original one yet and wouldn't want to get spoiled

Since I'm too poor for a steam frame, should I go ahead and upgrade my Quest 3 strap?
Right now I get 1 hour of battery life with just a kiwi strap, but this bobo strap with a battery and fan sound great. Is it worth 90$? I'm jealous of the little fan that the steam frame has

>>581085507
Get the M3 Mini and battery cradle addon, the full-fat bobo is an abomination.

>>581084349
10 min battery life and burn marks on your face

>>581085507
I love that strap
i don't find the fan to be all that useful
you get way more heat savings out of one of those "open" facial interfaces
You can feel the fan right when you turn it on, and then I can't notice it a minute or so later. For some reason they don't actually have a hole behind it or any channels (i guess so it doesn't suction onto your head?)
the hotswappable batteries are great tho

>>581085507
I have the sonicgrace s3 duo and I would recommend it. However I'm fairly sure the company went bankrupt or something so have fun trying to find one.

>>581085507
The regular non-battery Kiwi strap? Just buy a couple of external batteries and stick one on the back with loop/hoop tape for a fraction of the price and less weight than Bobo.

>>581085507
>I'm jealous of the little fan that the steam frame has
me too, I sweat a lot when I play sports games on my quest and the lenses often end up fogging up as a result.

>>581082843
You could also host a hangout instance yourself and see if anyone will come anon.

so how are we feeling, metasisters?
he won. there's no point buying the frame
i put in a lottery ticket anyway just to have -1 ticket slot

>>581086126
>i put in a lottery ticket anyway just to have -1 ticket slot
don't do this you're gonna ruin your steam credit score

Could someone please qrd me on the Frame? I really haven't had any time to catch up. Are there any issues aside from the price being too high? Works on Linux? Good privacy compared to Meta? Color pass through exists at least, despite the cost. It gets hot I think? Streaming gives better FPS compared to wired PCVR?

I believe if you're ok with being cucked on the price it's great, yeah? Or nah?

>>581086126
If you don't get one the slot just opens up for a runner up, the only point to go in is to buy one.

>>581086308
It's the best VR headset right now. People are complaining that it's only the best by a little bit for too much money.

>>581086308
do you want the things that Steam Frame does?
then its the best at doing those things

>took a big financial L and if I happen to win the Frame raffle I wont be able to buy it unless it's at the end of the month when I get paid
>if I can't buy it now it will never be in stock ever again or the price will increase x10

Hmmmm.

>>581086532
The price on ebay will be double for about a month, then slowly slip closer and closer to MSRP, with it being GRIM for scalpers in 6 months.
Scalpers I think are not ready for the complete lack of demand.

>>581086495
If it works on Linux and is good for simracing and good for flat Diablo 2 and HOMM3 on Linux and some VRC with you guys unless you're autistic and gay and good for EmuVR and good for shooting with guns games, then I want it. But does it do all that though?

>>581086126
Dunno what Gaben was thinking, how can I lick the smegma off a horse cock while making an ahego face without face tracking? Frame dead on arrival, Quest Pro is king. Gaben don't know what us VR gamers and enthusiasts want.

>>581086532
if you can't afford to buy it at least 3 times as it comes out then you don't have enough savings and have bigger things to worry about like your fucking future grow up you don't need a toy you can't afford food nigga

it was nice seeing my sea mahjong friends again especially pomni M welcome back

>>581086532
your credit card?

>>581083312
>I pay others in cache to shop for me

Holy fucking ESL

>>581085507
I don't understand people's retarded obsession with putting more weight on their head and paying a hefty premium to do so instead of just running a cable to the back of the headset so it's out of the way and then to a 20 dollar powerbank in your pocket.

>>581086735
not that anon but what if I can afford to buy it exactly 3 times?
and already own a quest 3
i really should be more financially responsible...

>>581087156
If you have a quest 3 I'd just wait 6 months until used ones are on ebay for like $700

>>581087156
I would sell that Q3 and buy a frame for that juicy fov/stereo overlap + eye tracking

>>581087132
what is balance for 500 alex

>>581087289
The Q3 is neither heavy enough for the weight nor jutting off your face enough for the torque to be worth doubling the momentum when you dare to look left or right

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov PC Search and Destroy!
At 1800 UTC (1900 UTC+1)
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

Password is 6974

>>581017416
Still uses a deprecated method of overlaying the AVP persona feed into VRCFT. Very scuffed and doesn't track many parameters, it is "window dependent". What does that mean? It means that the persona feed exists as a window in the AVP system, where you need to constantly face it if you don't want to lose tracking. If you move your head away and the tracking starts tracking your persona wrong because you moved the head, it will get very fucked, more than it already is by default, until you leave and rejoin ALVR. Pro is, it takes just a handful of seconds to restart, but still is very finicky.

At the current moment, the only thing you can do is literally beg apple to allow third parties to access the ARkit face tracking data. Been doing that every other month.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/apple-vision-pro/

Really sucks because it is objectively the best headset hardware wise.

>>581086308
>Are there any issues aside from the price being too high?
Apparently the software is still buggy according to some reviewers, and the battery life is disappointingly short.
>Works on Linux?
Not as of yet, though valve is supposedly working on it.
>Good privacy compared to Meta?
yes, also much more versatility in what you can do with it.
>It gets hot I think?
no, gamers nexus tested the thermals and they were superior to the quest 3. The air vent gets hot, but that's the point. All the parts that might touch your face are cooler.
>Streaming gives better FPS compared to wired PCVR?
No? why would it? Streaming adds overhead for encoding/decoding and transportation, so you'll always end up with higher latency compared to a displayport connection.

>>581086735
Retard shut up you don't even have a job.
>>581086925
I don't use credit cards.

Are Framecucks still coping? Just accept the L and move on lmao

>>581088257
>No? why would it?
Barrel distortion or what was it with the G2 and some HTC for example, requiring your PC to render more pixels. Maybe the Frame doesn't have it and you can get more FPS idk.
>>581086678
What's face tracking good for? Just VRC or any actual video games?

HTC is our last chance...

Like i dont know for who the frame actually is.

>>581086678
>us VR gamers
sounds like you're a vrc tranny. Valve's target audience are the people who will actually be buying games on steam.

Anything going on?

>>581088639
get a bank loan then, $1000 for a couple weeks is literally nothing, it will barely even cost ya if you pay it off early once you get paid
just from your actual bank, not some shady payday loan company

>>581089013
have you ever took the time to check the headsets they been making?

>>581089138
The people who missed out on the index before it became unobtanium lostech, and wanted to get into VR
unironically.
That is the demographic of all 6 friends I know of personally wanting to get a frame, and might still get it.

>>581087574
>69
69!!!

>>581089138
me

https://github.com/blippyblop/lighthouse-cli
early christmas present for people
tl;dr set your lighthouse power from 60 to 40 to get more life out of your lighthouse diodes!
No I don't know how much more
laser.pwr is the parameter.

Also use at your own risk but setting the power down should be safe.

>>581089356
I really could, but that's just ridiculous. Just for some toy. I probably wont win the raffle either way.

>>581089590
I DONT TRUST RANDOM GITHUB PAGES!!!!!

>>581089590
Oh right I meant set it down from 80 to 60!
40 might have reduced functionality.
It's tested on a total of ONE real lighthouse 2.0

>people talk about taking out loans to get a luxury tech item
Man i dont know what to tell you but if you are at this level you should really rethink your priorities and maybe get a job

there
I fixed the frame controllers
you got like 1.5 days to fix it valve

>>581089590
>>581089721
Or whatever! Just don't turn it up!

>>581089627
eh depends what you're into, these days I'm doing fine and have a lot of savings for random dumb purchases, but the first thing I did when I got a long-term contract at my job is get a loan to get a nice PC that I was going to get anyway

>>581089974
Uhm why?

>>581089820
0% APY loans are objectively good financial choices. If you arent offered 0% APY you are poor.

>>581090209
A higher laser power will shorten the life of the laser diode. Turning it down increases the life, but the trackers have weaker signals to use: HOWEVER, the default value is too high for like 99% of people.

>>581090324
Erm, so by that logic higher power means better tracking.

>>581090739
The diodes in your trackers either get a clear signal or they don't ; if they get a clear signal then more power won't help. There might even be more noise. Turn them up if you want but it will reduce the life of your lighthouses. I recommend turning them down and seeing if tracking is the same for... more years of diode life.

>>581090209
Because the default laser power is way too high for the majority of users and the most common failure is a laser burnout.
I've had all mine reduced by 20 down to 60 for over a year and never noticed a difference in quality of tracking.

>>581089590
POV: 6.0 instead of .60

>>581091230
>343 added land manatees to combat revolved or whatever the fuck it's called
grim

>>581091034
down to 40* woops
so yeah you're essentially reducing the current through the diode by 1/3 which is a massive drop

Now that the dust has settled, is the frame a good replacement for a dying index?
Also 256GB vs 1TB (230€ price difference)?

>>581091987
It's index 1.5, only worth switching to if your index is really on its last legs and dying.

>>581091987
The only reason to get the 1TB is to guarantee getting one. You don't need more than 256GB.

>>581091987
yes
256GB, there is literally no reason to go for 1TB at this pricing

>>581092428
>there is literally no reason to go for 1TB at this pricing
Very true, which is why 99% of people will bundle into the 256GB and turn it into waitlist hell and everyone who gets a 1TB will just get it next week.

>>581091034
Why do we still use outdated technology like diodes anyway? How about going with the time and switch to wifi?

>>581093457
I'm hedging my bets on the frame bad psyop and paid meta shills doing enough damage that I'll get in at launch.

How the fuck do the trackers even work like if its a laser how does it get trough the OPAQUE and BLACK plastic?????

>>581093619
For me I've been saving for this thing for 69 months, I can afford a little extra to avoid going into waitlist hell or getting a scalped 256GB for $1500

>>581093763
how can you still hear things if you cover your ears with your hands?
lasers arent real bro

>>581093763
Gaben is a wizard and personally imbued every basestation with magic

>>581093767
I mean I have the money it's just... the 256GB is passable value in the current market, it's like $150 more than I expected before the rampocalypse. I had $1k earmarked for "Index successor" for years.
1TB is just bad value. It's enough of an increase that if I decided to buy it I'd have to do the research into other headsets again.

>>581093763
Lasers are the devils magics and should not be understood by mere mortal beings, it is the work of occultists and those who consort with demons beyond our comprehension

>>581094306
It's incredibly bad value. I do not care. It is the frame.

cant use the lighthouse tracking system because the laser hurts my eyes

>cant use wifi because wifi sickness makes me nauseous
>cant use link cable because the EMF the cables give off makes me hear radio stations in my teeth
am i screwed?

Can Quest 3 last for another 3 years?

Are you making fun of me right meow?

>lower price of VRC+ to $5/month
>make a groups+ tier at $15/month that gives the group owner the same benefits of VRC+, but also allows groups to set a persistent 'home' instance for the group members that automatically shuts down when nobody is connected, and automatically spins up when someone is inside/wants to join the instance
stupid idea?

>>581094941
take your meds and you'll be fine

>>581095650
home group instance kino

>>581095650
>>581095995
actually genius level idea

anything new?

>>581097630
two weeks is over i guess?

So there is literally no use case for the 1TB version of the frame even if you wanted to tinker with the equivalent of a computer attached to your face?

>>581097774
Onboard storage will always be faster than expanded storage but also SteamOS is immutable so you can't install packages/apps like a regular linux distro would let you do, you can install flatpacks and that's about it.
You can technically enable read/write access on the root partition but most changes gets erased after a system update.

>>581088257
>Works on Linux?
>Not as of yet, though valve is supposedly working on it.

What's not working on Linux by the way? They're advertising an eco system with the cube, which is Linux based.

>>581098225
Uh yeah and this doesn't work

>>581098225
vr streaming doesn't work, GN tried it
yes, despite it working on any other Android standalone

Hey has anyone tried using VD cabled connection yet? I'd try myself but my headsets battery is so fucked that I'd need to have passthrough charging but I haven't even looked into whether thats even feasible yet, like if you can have data & charging, but has anyone tried it in general?

>>581098616
Power injection USB cables aren't novel, no

hahhaha feels so good to see valve taking one L after the other i hope this shit ass compamy collapses

>>581098486
>>581098286
Is it releasing on launch or somewhere down the line or do we literally not know?

>>581099121
they are "working on it"

>>581089138
People who think Valve is the least evil horse in the race.

>>581099121
They want it to work so it'll work eventually. That's most of the software side though. IT's just like this for a while unless you want to wait another 6 months with no frame

>>581097774
If you actually want to use this thing as a desktop replacement, you'll be glad about the additional space.
Question is just if the screen is comfortable enough for this use case.

Reminder that Valve normalized always online DRM and accpunt having. Accelerating death of physical media ;)

Why would the 1TB list gives more chances of getting a frame when scalpers can have as many accounts on both list?

>>581099602
you can only join one list

>>581099595
I buy on GOG whenever there's a choice, but the valve burgers are objectively better than the meta jews or the pico chinks

Ok so if not Frame and not Quest then what? What other headsets are there available on the market now or soon-ish (within next 6 months) that offer better value? BSB2? Whatever chinesium headsets Xi dropships to harvest our data?

>>581100391
Wait for Pico Swan or buy a Quest 3

>>581099602
Because they can't. If the accounts share any addresses or payment details, or aren't old enough, or have any fake addresses or 'card generator' services that scalpers use they get disqualified. Best a pro scalper does is farm real people to submit requests for them.
And you can ONLY choose the 256 or the 1TB. You can't sign up for both.
Second:
In japan they didn't do a lotto. The 256GB sold out in ~4 hours. the 1TB sold out ~6-8 hours later.
The demand for 256GB is WAY higher than the supply for 256GB.

Like people said earlier,
> there is literally no use case for the 1TB version of the frame
>there is literally no reason to go for 1TB at this pricing