/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #524

>oculus
>relevant

Vrcum

I wish Faith would come back...

>everyone who is reasonable wants mod elections
>suddenly Jelly puts his support behind wanting mod elections
>immediately everyone changes their minds and wants one person to appoint all the mods instead so they will be loyalist
great job (((Jelly)))

>>251749298 (OP)
They put the quest on top and S underneath instead of both on top and the ad underneath because they know the S is shit and the go is obsolete.

vrg team pubstomping is surprisingly fun. We didn't get any mustards in our games which was even better.

#ComeBackFaith
#FaithForMod

>>251749564

>>251749298 (OP)
Does anyone have that image from a few weeks ago with that one loli hiding behind the wall as a horsecock futa came at her

How many oldfags has nu-vrg killed off now?

>>251749712
It's simple
Left to right: Quest, S, Go
Top to bottom: Quest, S, Go

kern did nothing wrong

>>251749987
Namedrop anons that nu-vrg killed.

>>251749564
All according to plan... he who shadowruns /vrg/

>>251750105
Okay, K3rn. Shoo.

>>251749564
Why haven't you realized that Jelly is a double agent for the nu-vrg order? They use him as a means of controlling via reverse trends. He scares people toward nu-vrg sanctioned topics.

Why dont you fags want to post yuru is cool but their orbiter squad will be at the top of the pyramid

>>251750390
Vote*

>>251750105
kern did nothing wrong
smooxie did nothing wrong
u5 did nothing wrong
orb did nothing wrong
feath did nothing wrong
xiexe did nothing wrong

35 HOURS UNTIL THE INDEX ANNOUNCEMENT, NIGGERS

Can't we just hold a vote? The dictator shitposting will never end and this drama will continue long after these few days of the nuking, the fallout of the event is permanent and will leave shitposts long into the future and you know it.
Let's just clean up the mess of the old discord and restart with a fresh vote, spergs obviously won't win so there isn't any negatives to come out of it at all and no matter what yuru is gonna get the popular vote.

>>251751602
Nintendo labo vr release soon

>tfw will miss the F8 keynote tomorrow
>because I'm going to a certain other show
See you guys on the other side.

>>251751847

This is not a democracy. We are not running student government.

If you think you deserve to run the discord better than the people who are already there. You should make your case directly.

The only reason you're demanding a vote is so you can exert a feeling of power over an institution that was never yours to control.

It's not Yuru's either

Zeltgeist>Corrupt democracy.

>>251751847
People will just bitch that it's rigged, like every vote that has occured - and no, emojis aren't foolproof either because they can be deleted.

>>251751602
at this point I don't know what to expect anymore

>>251752208
I personally don't have time to be a mod and don't want to be a mod so being an administrator and a not is out of the question. I already pointed out they'd win, all I want is freedom and to ensure people who will think of shitting up the thread after this event will have no basis for the arguments regarding it because we are truly free.
If yuru actually cares like he says and wants to make the thread better and turn the discord just to off topic, the first thing he should do is try and rid it of discord posts. Real politicians hold snap elections all the time to stop dissent and calm things down and he should know that with his job in law otherwise he's probably a shitty lawyer since he can't keep up with politics or current events.

In case you're interested, I'm hosting a Lupin double feature tomorrow night at 10 PM EDT for NA anime movie night. We'll be watching The Fuma Conspiracy and Ishikawa Goemon's Fountain of Blood. I'll post details to join off of when the world is up.

>>251751847
A vote would work yeah but it's literally just to appease the shit flingers who'll find something else to bitch about. Let's be serious here, Yuru has gotten themselves in a position of authority for hundreds of people long before this happened, whether they intended to or not. They'd still be discord admin. There was at least 10 "vrg" discords that spawned during the k3rnening, which did everyone flock to? Now regardless, they'll do okay and business will carry on as usual as long as they don't get consumed by conspiracy theories and psyop shit like the last one took the hook completely on.

>>251752731
Nah, you just want a reason to shut people up if they ever bitch about who's in charge by saying "well u voted 4 dem xd"

Started work on a Guccistalfo

How's she shaping up? Yes, it is meant to be absolutely abhorrent

>>251752913
Kinda yeah but with regular elections they can try and make a change by getting at least one anon who has their point of view on a problem given a seat which means they have no point shitting up the thread and should actually make decent arguments in their posts. If they don't then just as you say we can ignore the goblin.

>>251753417
Welp, doesn't matter since voting isn't happening anyway

>>251749073 (Cross-thread)
s-sorry i have a bf

>>251749695 (Cross-thread)
I cant be there constantly monitoring them during, and id need atleast few hundred sessions ideally from as many people as possible. Data frequency is also important so simply collecting tracker data from my own client wont cut it.
However.. Gait and posture analysis can also show intent, mood, arousal, etc. which would probably just widen the reach of the chink social credit system so maybe its not such a good idea.
im sure htc and oculus are already doing this by secretly recording our movements

>>251753513
This. Yuru and mods will pick their butt buddies and we'll get to the finale of pt.2 again in about 8 months, then someone else will take the throne.

>>251753792
That's some wishful thinking

>>251753513
Well this community is completely down the shitter. I hope there is a fucking thread split soon, if gaben provides us with some good content tomorrow it won't take long to be rid of this cancer and be able to talk about actual VR in a thread that isn't just about /soc/ and their actual literal leader fags

Newfags rise up!

>>251750118
Kern
Anon27
Arrow

>>251754312
He said oldfags, not ponyfags

>>251754665

>>251754665

Slime group photo when?
Slime wrestling competition when?

>>251754312
Arrow...

What's the best audio settings for earrape avatar music playing?

>>251755351
Slime kissing and cuddling when?

Does anyone know if there is a way to add a delay to an audio source? I want to make a prop that will play audio after a few seconds.

>>251757215
You just have it start later in the animation, just drag it further down

>>251752591
EVERYTHING!
Why contain the hype?!

>>251753513
I'm surprised you guys turned down voting so strongly. I was ready to have an election.

>Kicked from the /vrg/ discord
>Rejoin
>Kicked again

What? Why am I being kicked?

For anybody interested, there's a small group of anons who play Assetto Corsa on Wednesday nights, around 8pm Eastern time. We usually play touge maps and drift around for an hour or two. non-competitive, so everybody is welcome, all you need is the base game, the official japanese car DLC, and a few custom maps. I'll post more server details the day of, just a threadly reminder today.

>>251758150
namedrop yourself or this is bait

>>251758150
underageb&

>>251758487
Valk. I was inactive for a while because I am very busy, but I still go on VRChat on occasion.

>>251758746
you weren't kicked, it got deleted

>>251759168
Why was it deleted?

>>251759313
the only person with the nuke button pulled the trigger after a drunken meltdown

What's a VRsocks???

>>251759615
you don't want to know

>>251759937
It can't be that bad. I am a very open minded person.

>>251759615
It's where anons cum inside the bottom of a pair of long thigh high socks giving them a lubricant to allow them to do cool dance moves sliding on the floor but is still viscous and sticky enough combined with the sock itself to given them just enough friction for stability. Going up to their thighs also allows them to get on their knees comfortably when dancing and sucking virtual pp

>>251760234
I'm saying this for your own good. Don't pay any attention to it and shun anyone who mentions in it a positive light. Fuck degeneracy.

>>251760325
uhh wtf
>>251760409
ok i believe you

>>251760589
It's just programming socks. Crossdressing while playing VRChat for more immersion. Fun if you're into that, ignorable if you're not.

Is it worth to join these meetups again? I popped in and out a couple times but the group seemed to get smaller and smaller every time I joined. My first time was definitely the funnest.
t. Hyena

>>251761009
weekends

>>251761009
Things are typically slow on sunday and weekdays except for wednesday and friday.

Friday/Sat is prime time drunken entertainment hours.

>>251751602
If it's not wireless or a massive improvement in FOV over Oculus CV1 I'm not buying it

>>251761169
>>251761127
Do I still join through Yuru or is there another way?

Remember how yuru said never wanted power? Funny how he now admin of the discord server. Never trust a lawyer.

>>251761345
your english is getting worse as the months drag on, are you doing okay?

>>251761330
Add some people from the NA meetups, typically they're a good backup.

>>251761240
FOV is "rumored" to be 135 degrees, we'll see about that.

>>251761345
See >>251751847
Nothing he is saying regarding power makes sense if you look at it and think, he is obviously grabbing power. I Don't think he is necessarily bad at what he does but he certainly is striving for number one and is pretending he isn't so people like him more enabling him to grow in power in a freedom respecting community

>>251761618
I don't really have anyone from NA added, should I try and get in the Discord server >>251761345 is talking about?

>>251761660
Who cares what the motive is. He is showing to be a person actually trying to organize stuff and get shit done in a respectful, mild mannered manner. People will trust who they trust and our community can grow that way.

>>251761345
More like people want to be under Yuru.

Several emergency discords popped up after zero hour.
It's just that people trust Yuru to own a community discord over anyone else, especially not orb's.

>>251758298
Sadly, I'm on the West coast and don't get home until 7-8pm Pacific time. One of these days.

>>251762094
When your competitor is orb, why would anyone go to anyone else but you?

>>251762146
because his server is pretty much zero rules and some people enjoy that environment

>>251762584
Yeah, and that small group of niggers are free to chimp out there all they'd like, while everyone over the age of 22 can enjoy a better environment.

>>251762706
He's been acting fine in the other splinter servers that have popped up. Have you considered that Orb behaves differently in different environments?

>>251762094
I never even knew the original got nuked until after I accepted an invite I was sent, I though it was some inner circle at first. The only reason I'm in this one is because there is no real other option, vrg isn't going to have multiple main discord it can only have one and smaller inner circles.
All this shit about being in the discord is a vote for the discord and it's current mods is fucking retarded and I don't get how people can even think to say that.

>>251762793
Have you considered that acting normal in other places only makes his behavior with everyone here look even worse?

>>251763071
knowing him, he has and just doesn't care
orb isn't really one that's keen on keeping a clear slate

>>251763310
As long as we're all on the same page, and he doesn't try to defend or justify his being a massive nigger, he can think whatever he wants.

Good night /vrg/. I love you all.

>>251761345
Who can I trust more, >>251760325?
>implying I haven't been grooming him into being a figurehead from the shadows

>>251763656
you still haven't shown how much you love me

>>251763656
Good night friend.

Yuru is a powerhungry attentionwhore who sticks himself into any piece of drama and tries to play le ebin good mommy breaking up the fight xD He’s played the long con by being the portal dropper and making people rely and look up to him so that one day he’d become the owner of vrg and now you’ve all given it to him

Literally a dude getting close to his 40s that’s fat, balding and insecure about himself so much that he uses a fucking voice changer who says he’s a mommy and tries to act like one lmao. Yuru loves the attention, all those times he says he doesn’t is just him humble bragging

>>251763656
Good night anon, love you too!

>>251766185
You have yet to say anything that would make people dislike him though.
Literally living the dream

>>251766185
How do you know what he looks like Irl? You're not pathetic enough to use school yard insults on 4chan, are you?

>>251766458
Why would anyone want a gay couple showing back up? So you can oggle them, and pretend you're just like them or some shit?

What do you expect the complete Index bundle to cost?
I'm going to guess the absolute minimum is $499, and that the likely price is $799.

>>251766458
good
if only
good
actually surprised
nah hes loud but not an issue
if only
if only
nah
nah
nah

>>251766767
Is the bundle the knuckles and the headset? Personally, I'd like them to just do a tracker bundle

>>251767313
What is he removing for this shitty gun this time

>>251766786
>nah to sekko back
the fuck

>>251767441
Your favorite handgun, what else?

>>251767406
There will be multiple bundles from what I remember, but when I said bundled I mainly meant "hmd+knuckles+lighthouses"

>>251767620
eww wtf is wrong with you freaks

>>251768020
welcome to vrg

Who else plays VR naked here? It's the optimal way to play Pavlov

I <3 my alt-right gamer neo-nazi boyfriend!

>>251768248
underwear and maybe singlet all summer completely unironically

anyone know of any shaders that make height maps work properly in vr? standard just does a weird(but potentially cool) effect that isn't intended in vr

I'd vote for azhrurel

>>251768752
bird detected

The worst part of being Aussie, is having to wait another day before we get the news on the Index.

>>251766767
Going over $800 would be stupid unless they whip out some really surprising features. $500 does make sense as a minimum because of the vive, but that would be leaving money on the table unless they're going low spec. If I were them I'd start with an $800 collector's edition and do a $600 normal edition afterwards.

It's safe to assum separate sales for knuckles pairs, individual lighthouses, and lone headsets. Hopefully cheaper trackers, but that's a longer shot. If they have a wireless adapter it'll probably be $300 as usual.

>>251752878
>10
I only know of 2. Is this just a meme or am I out of the loop?

Can you stop bringing your drama in our thread? If you haven't noticed yet the only one caring about it are yourselves discordfags so keep it contained in your place.

>>251770036
>Is this just a meme
Consider the layers of an onion. At the center of a box of onions. Deep inside a truck full of boxes of onions. Driving down a road past a hospital. A hospital with a nursery full of little babies. That's how far out of the loop you are. There are actually several hundred trillion servers in use right now.

>>251766185
He gives people what they want. Fuck off. The output is what matters in the end. Maybe you should try to be someone that helps others for once you narcissistic sociopath.

>>251749298 (OP)

>no phone, set it up with occulus mobile app

wat

Am I the only one who doesn't know who Cleetus is? Are they a new NA?

>>251771621
just a literal who, he's been here since early-mid december

>>251771621
new NA, mostly plays pavlov, does play vrchat though.

>>251771621
Brainlet who thinks hes the pinnacle of fairness and virtue while simultaneously acting as indignant, contrarian, edgy and even blatantly homosexual as possible, then says its all le ironic when confronted.

>>251771903
>>251771916
Good, it's hard to keep up sometimes and everyone seemed to know well who they were.

>

>>251751404
wrong

>>251766185
Correct.

>>251766628
>jelly gone
>if only
namedrop yourself nigger

>>251771621
Newfag Undeadorb-lite.

>>251773134
*jaw drops to the floor*
AWOOGA AWOOGA
Now those are some real glorious bazongas. Real marvelous mounds. God, what wouldn't I give to find myself between those warm coffee jugs. Daddy takes his coffee with extra milk if you know what I mean. God damn.
DAMN.

>>251773134
Holy FUCK those titties I am so turned on right now, I wanna take you to NEPbar lets go to NEPbar and fuck right now
:nepbar:
God are you going to the orgy?? My dick isn't ready

>>251773134
nigga looks like hes wearing one of those oversized minecraft steve suits

>>251775690
i want to STICK my DYNAMIC BONE into that minecraft steve suit

He made a pretty dope pillow fort.

>>251751847
>guys we should have a popularity contest to decide who gets power
Retarded. Less moderation the better. Stop being a nigger shitting up the place and/or stop being a cuck begging to be dominated.
For those that don't know the new meta - only use the discord to communicate with individuals and use only the thread to communicate with the community.

>>251777062
The new meta is to dick suck Yuru.

>>251777062
>this is anon's meta
Ebic fuck you good luck with that.

>>251777253
>tfw got so good at pleasuring his shaft he approved two of my events
i love my mommy and my mommy loves me

>>251777446
die

>>251773134
there's no way they're not getting bigger each day

>>251777062
you're not wrong but people are going to stick to their group servers anyway

How do I make unity launch VRChat in desktop mode instead of VR when making a test build of a world?

>>251778317
shutup

>>251773134
post the sling bikini picture I don't have it saved.

>98 votes to keep yuru as headmin
Lol nice try Jelly but all you did was prove how much of a retard you are. Eat shit.

>>251779756
maybe because most of the people who aren't cool with yuru being the leader won't join the group where yuru is already the leader?

>>251778249
The discord is so retarded, I left it cus I couldn't stand the hypocrisy.
4channers under Reddit rules who tripfag and have more inner circles than a tree stump.
and they still think they are better than reddit cus they originated from 4chan.
Does that even matter when you're Discord TOS' bitch?

aaah twitter aaaah discord aaaah AAAAAH
SHUT THE FUCK UP
tfw no vrfu

>>251781136
Sure let's break Discord TOS so they can nuke the discord...

>>251781617
It's their fault for using discord instead of the thread.

>>251781136
>>251781617
Please don't. For one thing I'm thankful that discord exists so it naturally weeds out the trash from the thread.
Sure they come in here periodically to shit up the thread with their drama but I'd rather pick periodical shit over 24hours shit, lesser evil.

>>251782220
Guess it's necessary retardation then.

I can taste it boys
Index
HLVR
Rising from the ashes
A new era of Valve supremacy

Fresh from the discord
https://uploadvr.com/rift-s-pre-orders/

Is it me or is VRChat lagging as fuck for the past hour? Took me 8min to log in, worlds tab has been loading for like 5min now.

Anyone who can do a quick compersion of
Zbrush
Substance painter
Photoshop
What are the pros/cons, and what are you using for texture edits anon?
Right now I mostly use photoshop and Im unsure if I should progress to also use Zbrush or substance painter.
I have no current knowledge of either program.

>>251767441
why is he removing guns at all.
Too much to balance? 5-7 I bet.

>>251782220
>periodically
The past few threads have been majority discord shit. Even without the fucking drama that's going on right now there is still a good amount of discord shit. The discord serves no purpose and should be nuked. You're all legal children trying to say it's too make the thread better or acts as a containment but it literally doesn't.

>>251776919
I want to defend this pillow fort.

>>251778317
I don't think it's possible to set it up to do it that way, but maybe you can just disconnect the headset so it'll be forced to launch in desktop mode?

>>251785731
>>251767618
Five-seveN received an updated model, so I doubt that would be removed. There are still multiple pistol slots, so I would guess this is actually a new one.

>>251785776
That's not the point. If you nuke their discord where the fuck do you think they will go back to? This thread. It's already cancerous as it is but if they come back it'll just fully become /vrgcord/ general.

>>251767313
Fuck, he's removing the AKS-74U for the Bizon, though.

>>251786842
>removing the AKS-74U for the Bizon
Stupid fucking deodorant gun

>>251786842
the smg wheel isn't even full, why would he remove the ak mini

>>251787273
Probably because he can't find a free model of sufficient quality.

>>251786842
The AK74 has a unique spot in the SMG category because it's the only one that can wallbang. Hopefully he doesn't forget this.

https://uploadvr.com/valve-index-spec-leak-fov-rendering-2k/

Aaaaaaaaaahhhhh

>>251787663
Baited.

>>251786643
That's why I'm calling you fucks let's children. How hard is it to not shit up the thread? Is it absolutely necessary to have a designated shitting ground? It's not like there's a difference anyway. The amount of content that would come back to the thread will balance the amount of shit posts so the the quality would be about the same anyways.

>>251787663
eye tracking is the spicier meme

>>251787876
eyeballs are stationary why would they need tracking.

>>251786116
Did he mention separating weapons by team? Tec-9 occupies the same slot as 5-7 does in CS:GO.

>>251788248
in case they try some shit
around eyes, caution applies

>>251787876
I'd rather have high FOV than eye tracking desu.

>>251788453
Yeah but that's less in the air, that's obviously what the double lens array is for

Hyped for MCC collection...

>>251789673
Any news on the date?

We are less than 24 hours away from the reveal of what may or may not be the new generation of virtual reality, this is what newfags have been holding off vr for and what oldfags have been dreaming of.
Post what you
>want
>expect
>predict VR will be like after gaben goggles enter the industry

>>251789997
I predict valve delay as usual

>>251789997
135 degree FOV with reduced SDE and knuckles controllers would be fine for me. I don't expect anything truly revolutionary. I mostly fear the lenses won't be good.

>>251789997
no games

>>251789946
>tfw more hype for a pancake game than the new headsets coming out

>>251790687
Which?

>>251789997
Valve games, fucking three of them like they promised.

where my orbus shills at

>>251790745
MCC
https://store.steampowered.com/app/976730/Halo_The_Master_Chief_Collection/

>>251790789
we'd be lucky to get information on one of them before the end of the year

>>251789997
I want the rumored 135 fov with at least the Rift's build quality, and a VR-defining/selling title to ship with it. ~$500
I expect a ~$700 headset with similar build quality to the Vive and a good game.
I think it will be significant but won't cause a hugh shift on its own.

>>251790867
>rehash of babby's first fps

>>251791232
I'd rather have the build quality of the Vive considering how much I've had to repair my Rift.

>>251789997
I believe it's better to curtail the expectations in this specific case. Haven't all of Valve's forays into hardware been unsuccessful so far, and isn't the market as a whole shifting towards casual VR at least for now? Combine that with the lack of a VR hardware history at Valve and there still no being any information so close to release, I only expect incremental improvements at best.

>>251778317
http://secondstrife.com/vrchat-vbs/

>>251791609
desu the vive headset's build quality is great
it's the controllers that are complete shit and the fact they are over priced doesn't help

>>251789997
>want
A full 2nd gen headset with eye tracking and foveated rendering
>expect
A good enthusiast headset with increased fov, reduced SDE, and good controllers
>predict VR will be like after gaben goggles enter the industry
If it changes much of anything, it'll be because of the controllers.
I think Quest will be more of a game changer for the industry even though I personally have no interest in it.

the only thing I want is my vrfu back

>>251773134
is that reece?

How do I get out of an abusive relationship in VR?

>>251793247
It's not possible

>>251793504
they invite me and then ignore me and when I say I want to dance they say we did that already and I look silly when I dance. I want to burst into treats everytime Im online its all stick and no carrot I feel loniel than ever

mother fuck

>>251793247
Block user.

>>251793679
they blew up my phone last time I logged off despite they saying me to stay

>>251779756
He voted yes

>>251794139
Check again. He voted no.

>>251794326
Falseflag

>>251791768
The rift is basically the opposite. The headset has a lot of design flaws, from the ribbon cable on the right side to the generally flimsy headphones to the kink in the cable right at the plastic retaining clip. But the touch controllers are solid nintendium.

>>251791640
ok now post the downvotes

>>251794461
Just a minute ago, you were a no. You really changed your vote? Why?

>>251794732
t. jelly
amiright

>>251789997
I expect a solid "enthusiast" headset a la pimax with gen1.5 optics and FoV, $800+ for the full set, and an announcement that there will be an upcoming announcement that the valve games will be announced soon™, in typical valve fashion. Everyone who's already on the PCVR train will be happy, everybody who's not will be like "$800 + $2000 PC lol I'll just buy a quest". The industry will at least get an infusion of newfags for cashflow, and we'll continue to see a slow rise in the amount of games available.

>>251794732
Not even him, retard. Just calling out blatant retardation.

>>251794856
Not gonna join the losing side lol

>>251794461
>name attached to the votes
Nice democracy

>>251795097
Yuru was actively vilifying no voters and comparing them to Jelly.

>publicly visible votes
That's a hard ABSTAIN from me senpai.

>>251795137
lmao

hitting up the 7/11 you fellas want anything

>>251796804
a vrfu

>>251796804
beef jerky and a fuckin uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh lipton ice tea please

>>251796804
a vrfu

>>251796804
A rope

>>251796804
Get me the Index leaks.

>>251796906
this except half and half

>>251795182
>4chan community
>nothing is anonymous
kek

>he didn't vote "yes" for yuru
What a bunch of assholes, I'm blocking you all

>>251792261
>>251796892
>>251796939
just vrfu each other faggots and stop vagueshitting the thread

>>251798160
>4chan community
>being able to vote at all
You just get told to deal with it here.

>>251798387
Only the 1st post was a vaguepost, retard

my vrfu left me...
I'm such a pathetic human being...

>>251798679
Maybe if you stopped cheating on me...

>>251796804
a vrfu

Discord aint free. The tree of discord and 4channel gotta be littered with blood of anons. Yurinal Kancolle aka Yuru is not my leader. He is robot tranny and probably balding as well :D VRG not r/vrg ok. Praise jelly.

>tfw I love my vrfu and they love me

feels good bros

come back...I'm sorry...

>>251799426
I hate you, actually

today's the day, in a few hours i'll know just how much longer until i dive into 6dof

>>251799998
You really expecting an Index announcement at Midnight? You know Valve is US based right?

>>251800235
He means Oculus has whatever going on

>>251800235
quest and rift s should be releasing today. i'm on the index hype too and will be buying it for pcvr, but i want to be a player in 6dof, not just an observer in 3dof

>>251800235
He's talking about F8, Facebook's conference today, which includes Oculus.
https://uploadvr.com/how-to-watch-f8-2019/

>>251800640
>the index is not 6dof

>>251800772
yeah i wrote that pretty shitty, but what i meant was that right now i'm only have a 3dof system

>>251800772
>yfw index is 8dof

Why did we had to vote using the emote system which shows who voted "yes" or "no" when we used a bot a year ago for the creation of the discord?

Please cheat on me!!!

>>251801385
Okay.

SEA only watches ani-...

>>251801329
Frau Yuru needs a shitlist of people to remove. Its easier this way. Dont go to sleep in Friends+ if you voted no. Might not VR wake up

>>251801329
The bot raised suspicions of whether the result was legitimate. Voting with reactions disincentivizes voting honestly. Can't really win.

>>251801823
>The bot raised suspicions of whether the result was legitimate
Can't you do some open source magic to refute those suspicions?

>>251802362
>quest users get literal npc avatars
like poetry

Where my VRlolis at bros? Daddy thirsts

Jelly is basically a prophet

https://twitter.com/SteamDB/status/1123265990329028609?s=19

>>251803418
Go home noodles, you're drunk.

>>251804406
https://store.steampowered.com/valveindex

>>251804716
>not available in your country

>>251804716
Fuck me, what are the $ prices?

>all this vrfu talk
vrchat has just helped me to confirm how much I fucking hate women, holy fucking shit. everyone and everything goes to shit each fucking time there is one in a room

>>251804406
NANI

>>251804762
we're in for some disappointment, bro's..

Looks like a direct upgrade

>>251804716
>paid £239.98 for two base stations
>bundle with base stations is £230 extra
Rift/trackers wasn't a bad idea after all.

>>251805023
Literally a grand (USD) if you're starting from scratch.

>>251805269
>1440×1600
Looks like a SKIP from me

New base station design
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059570/Valve_Index_Base_Station/

>all this shit coming out for vive
>tfw bought an oculus

>>251805479
Thanks for your input

>>251805023
>already have base stations for FBT shenanigans
>still going to cost 750 dollars just to get the Index + Knuckles
This is truly depressing.

We got so incredibly jewed, I can't believe it.
Valve have outdone themselves.
>No HLVR
>1K USD
And to top it off
>Not available in my country (Australia)

>>251805023
>>251805416
A-At least we get a 2 year warranty in the EU

>no mention of any new software anywhere
>wait, there's some aperture science shit on the controller page!
>"The Portal experience/tech demo(?) is called Aperture Hand Labs and is made by @CloudheadGames."

>>251805865
>>No HLVR
were you actually unironically expecting a Half Life VR game
if so I don't know what to tell you

>>251805865
The Vive was the same price at launch. They're getting the early adapters.

>>251805865
>>251806015
There will be no flagship game at launch, but Valve promises there will be a title this year.
https://uploadvr.com/valve-vr-game/

>Moddable.
>A front expansion slot, plus cameras with available sample code for the computer vision community, our headset is ready for tinkerers and makers.

>>251805817
S-Someone will find a way to make this work with the Rift, like they did with the pucks, though, right?
Right?

>>251805626
That's the 2.0 base station

>$999
>£919
I fucking hate UK pricing for VR

goodnight, sweet prince

Off-ear immersion
Designed to provide a more natural way to experience audio, the Valve Index speakers do not touch the ears, so the sound interacts with the geometry of the outer ear and the head. With off-ear immersion, audio feels like it comes from the environment around you rather than from inside your head.

fucking why, that's stupid

>Not Available In Your Country

>>251805479
It's full RGB

>>251806172
this is pretty much the exact kind of announcement I was expecting in terms of a game
an announcement for an announcement that one of their games would be announced for this year
congratulations to:
>>251790129
>>251790590
>>251791017
>>251794923

>>251806407
you don't even know what it's like being their closest trading partner but always getting fucked on the dollar
t. leaf

>>251806563
Open ear headphones are objectively better

>>251806563
Stop trying to hide your loli's moans let your neighbors hear

https://uploadvr.com/valve-index-price-specs/
https://uploadvr.com/valve-index-hands-on/
First impressions are already out, and apparently it feels like a dream.

>400$ out of the box
told you oculus are the good guys all along

>>251806263
If you get two steam controller dongles and flash them to be like the ones that come with the trackers (or just pair them to your existing tracker dongles) then you can make use of the knuckles. That's the only thing zucccucks get from this.

>>251806581
great now you can see pixels like fucking bricks in 16.7 million colors

>>251806896
tutorial where

>>251805626
>>251806307
Worth noting the Index supports FOUR (4) base stations compared to the Vive's 2. These new base stations also boast better reliability, build quality and efficiency compared to the old ones.

>>251806781
It fucking better feel like silken virgin tits

>>251806956

Ahahaha

>faggots posting images in the discord
>im reposting in the thread for valuable anonymous (You)'s
get cucked discord faglets

I've been told to wait, months upon months, to buy a headset.

Considering the current reveal, both specs and price, should I buy an index or a normal htc vive will do it for me? What is your opinion?

>>251807029
Aren't they supposed to be fucking cheap too
Was that not the point of 2.0?

>>251806886
We've known the score for a while. Oculus is aiming for mass adoption by removing barriers and keeping things cheap, while Valve is staying the enthusiast course with a $500 headset and $1000 full package with controllers and two lighthouses.

Thank you Gabe, very cool!

>>251807143
>First actual VR discussion going on
>Talk about it in the discord instead of our decrepit dying thread

>>251807143
I was gonna post it here too, rude!

>>251807020
I dunno but someone posted about flashing the steam controller dongles 2-3 weeks ago.

@251807143
Think again

>>251807186
Vive doesn't make sense. Get a Rift CV1, Rift S, or Index

>>251807201
$150 for one 2.0 lighthouse.

>>251807186
The Index is clearly positioned and marketed to beat the absolute piss out of the HTC Vive and make it look deprecated and pointless. If you're going to get a non-Oculus headset, you may as well get the Index.

>>251807254
>we're just an after thought to you
shame on you

>>251806263
I have knuckles working on rift, it's just as easy as setting up trackers for rift.
Just reflash some steam controller dongles or buy some watchmen dongles from 3rd party sources for cheap

>>251807143
>>251807241

>Moddable. A front expansion slot, plus cameras with available sample code for the computer vision community, our headset is ready for tinkerers and makers.

What sort of things would it be moddable to do?

>>251807516
>The speakers don’t touch your ears, so you can still hear people in the room with you and they don’t get uncomfortable to wear. However, like other non-contact VR audio solutions, people in the room can also hear what you’re hearing.
Now everyone is just going to fake orgasm constantly if someone walks in the room with an Index user.

>>251807516
Yup, those are getting snapped off by bow games
Or just in general so I can use my wireless headphones

>>251807619
software and hardware

>>251807707
No shit. I mean specifically

>>251807521
Why do you keep coming back to the thread if discord is so much better?
Perhaps it's because you can't shitpost anonymously on discord with a name attached?

it's not worth it, is it

>>251807805
Not worth. Wait for index 2 with 4k screens maybe

>>251805479
1440/1080 * 3/2 * 110/130 = 170% subpixels/degree

>>251807805
It's a brand new headset with specs better than anything on the market. The Vive was $900 at pre-order and the Rift was $600, without Touch controllers so they had to be purchased separately. The only reason existing headsets are as cheap as they are is because they are both 3-year old pieces of technology.

>For HTC Vive or Vive Pro owners, the Index upgrade starts at $499 from their current system to just get the new headset. The jump in visual and audio fidelity is huge.
Going by the price of the new light houses and controllers i might just upgrade the headset first if my vive controllers last that long

>>251807756
programs and accessories

>>251807201
Probably priced as they are now to cover r&d costs and because Valve simply can't match the manufacturing output of htc's lighthouses even with the added simplicity. Less supply, more demand, boom $150 price point.

Or maybe they're just fucking jews. I'm not no economist.

>>251807805
It's a little questionable. If you're entering into VR from nothing (like I am), $1000 is a pretty hard sell, even if it's for what's basically the new enthusiast PCVR system. This is before I upgrade my PC from the minimum VR requirements for more convincing performance, too, and that'll be a cost itself.

Still, like >>251808006 says, Index is the strongest new headset on the market and is a step up from literally everything that came before it, whether it's the visuals, the tracking, the controllers, whatever. What was enthusiast three years ago is affordable now (and still isn't bad), and Valve is setting the new bar for enthsiast PCVR.

>quest pre-order opens today
>ships may 21st

https://youtu.be/2SI_3jlAV9M
>Hands-On with Valve Index VR Headset!

>AMD Ryzen 7 1700 and 16GB of RAM but only a GeForce GTX 1060 6GB
It should be fine, right?

>>251808750
yeah you'll be good

Everything went better than I expected.

Today is a good day.

>>251808750
You can probably put your supersampling to 2 or higher without performance loss in anything but VRchat. That's way more intensive than a 4/3 increase in resolution.

>>251808936
Cool.
I was worried when I ran the Index test and it told me "Not Quite".

>no eye tracking
>$1000 bundle
>$300 just for knuckles

>>251806014
Why would it? You already have SteamVR.

>>251808993
still no vrfu though

>>251809078
>I want technological improvements but I don't want to pay for them

>>251806014
>Valve only confirmed a “flagship” VR game from Valve due in 2019 for all VR headsets which connect to Steam
Are you ready for Bridge Constructor Portal VR?

>>251805182
I guess the reviews are already in then

I really hope it's not you shitposting about wanting a vrfu all the time...

>>251807349
Yeah, Index basically murders the Vive from this point onward. There is no reason to get it when Valve and Oculus provide better alternatives.

>1000 dollary doos
>1600x1400
This is a joke right?

>>251807029
Four is excessive unless your playspace is huge.

The base stations are just spinning lasers right? What are the chances some chinkshit company will copy them for a fraction of the price?

>>251809078
Eye-tracking and foveated rendering aren't ready yet. When those become available, then we'll be in the second generation of VR.

>>251809608
I mean, people have been waiting for Chinese knockoff tracking pucks, and we haven't gotten any.

>>251809608
patents

>>251809572
>*1,415.78aud(ollarydoo)
it's 999usd m8

>>251809143
>i want to pay 400 dollars extra because JOB

>>251809737
i thought valves steamvr shit was opensource
I think they might be putting the price high to encourage other manufacturers to jump in and intentionally undercut them so steam can back off on the hardware and just go back to selling software

>>251809298
It's not.

>>251809572
The headset is priced fairly, but everything else is expensive as hell.

>>251809608
>>251809737
Pimax's base stations and chinkshit touch controllers cost 300 USD

>>251809595
Maybe, but at least the option is there.

How the fuck did Valve manage to sell their controllers even more expensive than HTC? Fucking unbelievable.

I'll pay the $1000 because I'm a foreveralone wageslave with literally nothing else to spend my money on except escapism

>>251807521
I fucking love those edits

>>251810069
that's for a deposit, not the full price

>>251810101
Truth

>>251809608
They're a little more complicated. Spinning lasers either exactly timed with an LED flash 90 times a second, or that have timing data encoded within the beam itself for Lighthouse 2.0.

>>251810083
they have waaay more sensors and valve isn't chinkshit slave labor made

>>251807658
takes me back to high school

Imagine caring about a few hundred dollars.

>>251810083
Because they're the Knuckles, dude. They have more sensors and can track every finger individually instead of just 2 or 3.

>>251807693
>>251807516
Calling it now, someone is going to pass out drunk in VR, fall on their side, and snap one earphone clean off.

Maybe I shouldnt quit my job after all...

Sick of pixel sniping through a screendoor. Going to get the index HMD just for better vrfps gaming.

Imagine lewding at 120fps

>>251810324
A joke from /neog/ for you.

>>251810101
You can sell everything all you have, donate the money to neuralink, suicide and donate your body to science or medicine

>>251809298
It is

>>251810269
>90 times a second
I thought it had no frame rate limit?

>>251810556
you should never quit your job fucking leech

>>251810101
VR is not my escape, it a destination I've been trying to reach for 30 years dispute having an ok life

>>251810932
your boss is the leech

>>251807658
Gotta start practicing my fart noises.

>>251810932
Ignore this cuck

>>251810932
>not quitting when you have enough savings to live the NEET life for a while
Enjoy the rat race, wagie.

mfw watching neets literally reeeeeee about the price while on lunch break

>>251811237
B was right

>>251811237
I'm just surprised at the price because I thought HTC was doing massive price markup, still gonna get them controllers.

welp time to crack open the ol' trust account

>>251811237
mfw wagecuck cant enjoy his vr cus hes at work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4T71x7wvO0
ahem

>bitching about NEETs on 4chan of ALL the places
can you go back to facebook

>>251811539
cope.

>>251811559
I agree, 4chan should be shut down

>>251811712
please

I don't know much about VR, can I just buy the headset without the controllers/basestations if I just want to play VR porn games? All regular games are just wave shooters anyways.

>>251811831
No

>>251811831
No and you're wrong

I'm no audiophile. Redpill me on the Index mic specks vs other HMDs.

imagine not being able to afford 5 of these
stinky neets

>>251811831
Your head wont work without base stations, you'll get instant motion sick at any movement of your head. Only porn videos and even that wont be truly immersive.

>>251811928
No but he is right

Now that we finally know everything, it's time to take a tally.

>Rift S if you want Oculus exclusives and the easiest entry point to quality PCVR at $400
>Quest if you want the new standard in all-in-one standalone VR
>Index if you want the new standard in enthusiast PCVR and can stomach dropping $1000 for it
>Vive if you hate yourself, HTC is fucking dead now that Index replaces it entirely
What else?

>>251811831
hahahahahahahah no.
Headset won't move in 3D space without base stations and probably won't even work at all if it can't detect any.
You can use a headset with xbox controllers or other controllers if the game supports that but at that point you might as well get a quest or a cheap WMD just for vr porn

>>251812084
b-but htc isn't dead, their new controllers have TWO triggers

Reminder that this is pentile OLED vs RBG LED at the same resolution.

>>251811831
Buy a cheap Windows Mixed Reality headset, you can get a Samsung ODY+ for $300 sometimes, comes with controllers (camera tracked from the headset) or the Rift S.
It's basically what you're asking for, though you cannot avoid controllers.

HTC
The company that was cucked to death.

>>251812375
>>251812132
>>251812058
>>251811928
>>251811901
thanks boys, I thought it would have that inside-out tracking thing

>over ear headphones that don't touch your ear
whoever thought of it is a genius

>>251812464
They still have pucks for the full-body tracking crowd. If Valve makes their own standalone trackers, HTC will be well and truly cucked to death.

>>251812841
No, Index uses lighthouses for tracking. Rift S uses inside-out tracking.

How about just getting the controllers without the headset?

I was disappointed by the resolution but not expecting 120+ fps or the audio. To me it only falls a little short of my hype level, but I would have happily dropped another $500 for 2k screens.

>>251813015
>valve releases trackers
>$130 USD

>>251810932
Oh yeah cant wait to work until I die

So is Index and knuckles compatible with 1.0 lighthouses? No need to buy the full package right?

>>251813020
USD$280 for two Knuckles controllers by themselves.

>>251813178
Yes, Index and Knuckles are compatible with 1.0 lighthouses. If you want just the headset and controllers, Valve sells that package for $750.

How hard/easy will it be to install custom lenses for the Index? I don't wanna use glasses with a VR headset.

>>251813582
You'd think fucking gaben would be on that shit
Either way third parties handled prescription lenses np for the other sets

>>251813582
https://widmovr.com/product/valve-index-prescription-lens-adapters/

wew
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/04/30/oculus-quest-review?abthid=5cc88962c944599979001ae9

>>251813015
Wouldnt the vive pucks still work if you get an index? Arent the base stations the same?

>>251813015
Hive trackers are an open source alternative. DIYers just need to figure out scale and ease of use and HTC is done for.

>>251814767
Yes

>Every company making $1K+ HMDs until everyone pivots out of VR from low sales
nice

>>251814467
>crank it to eleven this june

>144hz
I really wish I cared, but I would choose to go back to 90 if I could save 50 bucks.

>>251807756
hand tracking, world meshing, maybe eye tracking if you can get clever with cable arrangement. LED lights on the front of the HMD, all sorts of things. You could conceivably stick a couple of wifi radio on there and do some crazy nerd math to give you the ability to see people through walls.

>>251814993
I mean HDTVs was exactly like that once
Tech is just an annoying cunt when it's new

>>251815065
The difference between 90 and 144 Hz is negligible in my experience.

>Spending 1k bones when I'm just gonna get cum all over it like my current headset and controllers

Ok I guess...

>>251815279
>third party coolant system
Smart

UH, ALL PEOPLE NOT BUYING LATEST MEME GIMMICK FADS, OR POORFAGS HOW I LIKE TO CALL THEM, GET OFF THIS COMMUNITY BECAUSE ITS FOR INDEX OWNERS ONLY, UNDERSTAND, COS IF YOU DONT I WILL MAKE VRCHAT QUEST COMPATIBLE ONLY

>>251812941
Sounds comfy but I wonder about audio quality and immersion

>>251815279
if you can justify spending 1000 for a headset for porn you can justify 30 for a onahole or something to contain your fluids

I for one welcome new audio solution, at least now mom will believe me Im dancing at a party when Im alone in my room

>>251815463
UHH FUCK NEETS FUCK THE NEETS LEECHES *SLURPS BOSSES CUM* OH GOD PLEASE PAY ME LESS YES

>>251815539
>30 for a onahole
They are that cheap?

>>251815279
The package includes a cleaning cloth.

>>251815463
>improved everything is a ``gimmick''

>>251815463
for every 1 fag complaining about poorfags theres like 10 poorfags whining about people wanting to buy it

>off-ear audio solution
>the Valve Index speakers do not touch the ears, so the sound interacts with the geometry of the outer ear and the head. With off-ear immersion, audio feels like it comes from the environment around you rather than from inside your head.

are you winning son?
are you winning son?
are you winning son?
are you winning son?
are you winning son?

>>251815521
>immersion
this is literally the point of doing it. high quality positional audio without feeling like you wear headphones, shit is going to be immersive as fuck desu senpai

NO NO NO INDEXBROS THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IT

>>251815767
I got a full 5lb ass n pussy one for $35 on amazon shits intense, the future is truly now

fuck those poor fag leeches
*unzips bitcoin*
dumbass leeches on my taxes
*avoids taxes via alt coins and off shore wallets*
i EARNED my money
*brings BTC out at the 20k peak*
*sips gold laced monster*

>>251815907
I mean the immersion from loss of audio quality and directional audio

>>251815886
>Frequency Response: 40Hz - 24KHz, Impedance: 6 Ohm, SPL: 98.96 dBSPL at 1cm.
>SPL: 98.96 dBSPL at 1cm.
>open on both sides
>shoots audio into the whole room, essentially a speaker
good luck having sex with your VRfu, NEETs.

>>251815929
>Rift S reports next-to-no god rays

>>251815767
It's 2019 Anon men can have sex toys now
I mean not really but they're cheap at least

neets btfo

>>251816089
>a-at least my three year old technology doesn't have god rays

>>251815929
WEW

>>251816073
>fucking my vrfu on vive with parents in the next room, no problem
>Valve© Index™ solves this problem by blasting my vrfu's robotranny moans across the room at a crisp 98.96 decibels

>>251816056
reviews say there is a sweet spot to position them and it's top quality even in music games like beatsaber

>>251816098
>>251816035
Brb buying onahole+dakimakura(with custom art) instead
Fuck, i waited 6 months to get disappointed. All i wanted is just good time with waifu.

>>251816407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTNYcnGv6JY&feature=youtu.be
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

lmao imagine sending zuckerberg perfect blackmail material in the form of all your porn habits and video streams of you jacking off to your vrfu just so you could buy a less expensive HMD

>>251816564
A historic event

>>251816127
wagies back to cagie

>>251816938
lmao imagine sending china perfect blackmail material in the form of all your porn habits and video streams of you jacking off to your vrfu just so you could buy a more expensive HMD

will gtx970 be enough for a barebones vr experience if i dont care about fancy games?

>>251817176
Yes

>need to upgrade gpu soon
>controllers broken
>cables breaking
>want nicer headset for less sde
>upgrading headset means I'd have to sell old headset, old headset would need to be sold with lighthouses for proper bundle
shit

>>251817236
Thank you. I guess I can at least watch movies on 970 and play some singleplayer "old" vr games? I am well aware that stuff this general plays like pavlov, beat saber or vr chat simply wont work

>>251817351
None of those are GPU bound.

>>251817351
They work just fine, vrchat is the only shitty one and that's on their end

>>251817351
beat saber will work lol

>>251817563
>>251817501
>>251817605

Well that's very encouraging, thank you guys.

>>251817650
I was using a 1050ti for the longest time, and the only game that gave me issues was vrchat and that was only when there was a shit ton of people, and they were all unoptimized

Are the Index headphones removable and/or has a headphone jack? May be a dealbreaker for me.

>>251816073
>Damn it son give me your controller
*Makes your vrfu climax with one knuckle alone*
>Your mother taught me that, now dont embarass yourself
*slams door*

>>251816564
absolutely disgusting, this future must be avoided at any cost

>Ships by 28 Jun, 2019
Another two months of waiting.

>>251815929
Source?

>>251818029
It has a Headphone out jack (3.5 mm), so I assume the built-in headphones will be removable since it wouldn't make a lot of sense to have them on as well as a pair of normal headphones.

Will it be compatible with the smell cartidges? Holy fuck my fart fetish will be exposed, nobody will buy the zen garden meditation thing after they hear my vrfu fart

So, will you guys buy it?
I probably will, whole fucking $1000 bundle. Then 3 cuck pucks for FBT.
Gonna watch video reviews tomorrow and see what they say about the FOV, resolution etc. I hope it's worth the price.

>>251818591
Pre-ordering tomorrow. Already have base stations and pucks.

>>251818591
I dunno, I think Ill settle for Knucks until I hear about wireless.
So the screen will be better, big fucking deal, wake me up when games start to drop

>>251818591
yes, and a quest. i just want to SEE

https://www.strawpoll.me/17913414
Will you be buying the Index?

>>251818591
probably, i save like 1400 a month and do fuck all with it and ive been using the vive at least weekly since i bought it 2 years ago, figure id be justified to upgrade. hopefully knuckles adoption in older vr games doesn't take too long

>>251818831
>when games start to drop
This isn't Oculus; there are no Index exclusives. Everything will be handled by SteamVR.

>>251819165
Wake me up then

>>251818029
>Audio
>Built-in: 37.5mm off-ear Balanced Mode Radiators (BMR), Frequency Response: 40Hz - 24KHz, Impedance: 6 Ohm, SPL: 98.96 dBSPL at 1cm.
>Aux Headphone Out 3.5mm

>>251818591
>$750 for the upgrade bundle
I'm going to buy the HMD + knucks anyway.

Fuck, money is going to be tight for the next few weeks.

>>251818937
Yes (Not Available In Your Country)
Fuck you Valve

>>251818272
>Oculus fags bitching about Rift S/Quest not shipping until May 21st
>June fucking 28th
It hurts

>>251809648
Hololens 2 has eye tracking

>>251811031
They do ignore it. People literally defend rich people taking their wages.

Guys is now a good time to buy an original rift for 250?
The index is a bit out of my price range

>>251820978
>employers should provide jobs at their expense
???

>>251820978
>i don't own the machinery i work on
>i don't own the building i work in
>i don't own the logistics network that keeps the business running
>i don't get paid 100% of the value I create?!? WHAT THE FUCK COMMUNISM NOW WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE

BUY LIGHTHOUSES ON EBAY WHILE YOU STILL CAN, NIGGERS

>>251821124
If its new, go for it.

I love it when neets go out of their way to escuse the fact that they're leaching off other people's money because they're too weak willed to do shit on their own. You act like everyone with a job is unaware of how shitty it is to have a job, yet ignore the fact that we're doing what we need to in order to keep going. Time hasn't stopped for anyone but you faggots, so keep to yourselves if you don't like being shit on.

>>251821124
Just save for one of the new rifts.

>>251821124
You'd have to buy the sensors that go with it. At that point, you may as well get the Rift S.

None of the anti-neet arguments in discord made sense. What's happening?

>>251821517
>wagie wagie on a ragey

>>251821462
If its used what should I look out for?

>>251821517
I'm a neet without neetbux

>>251821394
It all boils down to ownership, which exponentially grows from generation to generation.
I thought the American dream was equal opportunity?

>>251821712
Then you're just a burden on your family

>It's going to be $1400 Canadian
>"Not available in your country"
whyyy

>>251821691
Make sure the constellation on the headset and controllers work, the camera on your phone will show it.

Make sure the right headphone works with the strap adjusted to any position.

Apart from that, they are pretty retard proof.

>>251821769
the people who bitch about "ree give me free money" are mcdonalds and service employees who dropped out or never qualified for higher education
go to school and earn 80k/yr starting going into a high demand major and dab on neets

>>251821517
Okay but why are you so mad?

>>251821926
So they're actually retards?

>>251821597
>>251821462
Isnt the Rift S a sidegrade?

>>251821992
yes, pretty much
modern "wagie wagie" memes incarnated are either completely downtrodden and too depressed or otherwise low-functional to get a real job, or are straight up dropped-on-head tier retarded and will never go beyond service jobs
or extremely lazy and deserve it

>>251821992
Jelly is legally retarded, keep this in mind

Pretty excited about Asgard's Wrath and Stormland but are those going to work well with revive and Index?

>>251822106
It's worse unless you want the option to go wireless with limited processing power.

>>251822178
I don't think this is true from my interactions with him. Have you ever talked with retards?

>>251821926
This
So glad i didnt fall for the "higher education is a jewish scam" horseshit this site peddles. CS degree got me into upper middle class instantly and my loans are plenty manageable

>>251822106
It is, but i wouldn't touch that shit with bananers's dick.
The screen on the rift S / Quest is nice, that's about it.
I wasn't impressed by the tracking though, there's some painfully bad blind spots above your head.

>Lenovo quality
>Better than WMR tracking, but still mediocre
>No adjustable IPD
>No dedicated headphones

>>251822176
Oh, so you're the retard?

>>251822442
He says so himself, but he Also says he went to college and got a degree for mathematics, despite telling everyone he's a high school dropout, so your guess is as good as mine.

>>251822581
disabled=/=retardation
reach harder

>>251822472
Comp Sci, engineering, various scientific degrees to an extent, and ANYTHING petroleum related is more or less instantaneous mid/upper middle class. The "REE JEW SCAM" spammers are economics majors working at an office, and art cucks on Twitter holding up signs about how they work at Starbucks with 80k worth of debt
getting a real job starts with getting a real major

>>251822562
He's told me he's a college dropout, not a highschool dropout. Why are you such a meanie?

>>251822667
Sorry jelly, but you're retarded AND a pedophile, and both are things you can find in the archives.

>>251822748
t. jelly
the ultimate argument

>>251822667
sure, i will

>>251821992
>>251822176
Pretty much. I never graduated high school, have severe memory and motor skills issues (surely nothing that would get me neetbux though), was never taught responsibility and have a very fragile support network along with just being a very ugly and awkward person. I fully expect to be homeless within 5-15 years.

But because i'm such a terrified low IQ retard who thought he found a rock to hide behind and try to ignore everything with for awhile in vrc (not so sure lately), i'm probably going to buy an index next month.

>>251822890
>he genuinely blames the govt for making him retarded

>>251822535
t. Best Buy backroom worker
Go get a real job and prove you're not one of the prior categories faggot
>>251822931
but both of those would earn you disability, and saying "i never learned responsibility" is just a major ":^)" and nothing more because it's a very simple concept

>>251822510
A lot of people who has a huge range of different IPD said the S worked fine for them during the events where they could test the oculus s. Also, even if it doesn't have dedicated headphones, it still has speakers that works close like headphones since it's so close to your ears.

>>251822510
https://youtu.be/D86jDhirxSY

>>251822890
what is sarcasm

>>251823362
>>251823231
I tried it at pax, i had lost tracking multiple times playing beat saber.

I'm not talking out my ass here.

>>251823504
He lives in a community home with someone watching him for a reason, anon. He used to bitch all the time about them not listening to his ranting in the middle of the night

>>251823558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u90EREZgwOE

play more Beat Saber!!
https://streamable.com/enrai

>>251823837
>expert

Thank god for anxietybux!

>>251823837
>expert

>>251822704
Meanwhile I know many people with utterly useless STEM degrees.

>>251823627
Jesus Christ you're fucked in the head, you need help.

>>251823837
I did KD/A and Beat Saber on expert plus.

K/DA was a fucking mess, lost tracking 3 times. Twice above the head to the left, once to the bottom left of the headset at my hip.

>>251824125
Science degrees are often oversaturated to shit. Math suffers the same issues regularly but has more application in wider society. Engineering is constantly understaffed and in extremely high demand, and Comp Sci has been exploding as well.

>>251823837
>a better lannd~
>*wouww*

>>251821517
calm down wagey, back to the cagey. neet is comfy, neet is cool, neet is free from work and school

>>251823085
It would be impossible to demonstrate, I have no baseline medical records that are anything like current. I know it's easy to blame other people but my parents were entirely hands off, didn't care what I did, but the fault mainly lies in me being pic related in that environment. Lifelong habits are hard to break.

It took me most of my adult life to realize I probably have an undiagnosed minor birth defect. I have a dual simian crease in my hands and very unusual facial/head structure that doesn't really match my parents.

>>251824475
go to the doctor's then, and go back to school
its just a challenge of recognizing the issue at all, then having the willpower to work through shit
ez-pz

>All this victim blaming
Christ /vrg/, why?

>>251824475
>pic is actually fine if he has rich parents though
>it's what every lottery player wants to win

HELLO? IS THIS THE VR GENERAL?

>>251824746
Really now... this is just pathetic.

>>251824885
no its the bully retards general go away

Stop being retarded boys. Please talk about VR, I love you all.

>>251824957

That Valve Index though, haha. What a disaster.

I like jelly

Imagine bullying a NEET on NEETbux because he got defensive over his source of life. Amazing, /vrg/ sure has changed.

>no eye tracking
>lighthouses cost just as much
>resolution only matches the Vive Pro and Odyssey
>LCDs instead of OLED
>Probably has SDE unlike the anti-SDE panels in Odyssey+ and Pro Eye
>Priced through the roof
I'm really disappointed, considering the Odyssey+ costs $300 and the only thing that Index really offers over it is lighthouse tracking and knuckles. It's not worth the $700 premium.

>>251825270
They want more homeless people with mental health problems that can't take care of themselves

>a countdown for a pre-order
Is this what gaming has come to?
I really cant wait for the pre-order pre-order special, where you can pre-order before the ability to pre-order is released, so you can skip having to pre-order the game

>>251825616
That'll surely make society safer.

>>251825275
It's a steep price for whats basically a gen 1.5 device. Definitely not worth it, I think, but that hasn't stopped people before including me.

>>251825275
>the 'only' thing is reasonable tracking

>>251825616
They should build a mega structure to house all the homeless and never let them walk around in public, cause nobody wants to see them and they want a place to stay

Why would anyone get the index over anything else on the market? The controllers are the most valuable innovation.

>>251825712
>$1000
>reasonable

>>251825859
My Rift is failing and I want to move to lighthouses only without having to deal with Vive image quality.

>>251825275
*boots up Beat Saber*
*downloads top 50 highest pp songs*
wtf this game sucks why are my controllers skipping around so much

>>251825868
Reasonable being the antonym of 'unreasonable'.

What the fuck is wrong with Cardizem?

>>251826048
For $1000, that's still not a good idea.

>>251826293
Absolutely obsessed with Jelly.

>>251826418
He needs to get out of his trolling teenager phase. Jelly's fine when that fuckers not constantly riling him up.

>>251825868
if you factor out knuckles and base stations it's $500, provided you already had the vive or vive pro and dont mind dildo wands that is
maybe when a couple good games come out that uses knuckles well it may drop in price

>>251826353
I already have lighthouses, and about 30k spare from rarely buying anything.

>>251824957
>>251825151
>>251826585
...yikes!

>>251826585
>gatchascum
>human

>>251826585
>(edited)

>mfw I'll only be paying $500 for Index because I already have knuckles and base stations

>>251827041
the HMD is priced reasonably

>>251826585

>don't want to join the discord to see the drama
>discord drama ends up in the thread anyway

>>251827337

>>251827498
Shame really.

Most of you already have lighthouses, and the $500 price point for the HMD is completely reasonable. The only problem is that HTC cucked you by selling you shitty controllers that are pretty much required to be replaced. That's not valve's fault.

>>251827594

>>251827594
based

>>251827958
Not really, you should be ashamed.

>>251827732
We get it Jelly, for once you’re getting bullied instead of being the bully. We don’t care. Keep your discord shit in discord and stop spamming the thread with screencaps.

>>251828293
>t. jelly
Okay, continue to pretend Jelly's evil and what not faggot.

>>251828293

>>251828373
He’s not evil, he’s just an angry little retard with too much time on his hands.

>>251828523
t. angri BIG retard

>>251828373
Jelly is too stupid to be evil. He's like Kanye, except not talented. he just stands in a room and rants to anyone in the vicinity.

>>251828778
>not talented
Say that to my dick.

>>251828293
This, please.

I just talked to Trapanon and she’s coming back to vrg after buying an Index since she’s so rich she can afford it easily

>>251828778
More like Alex Jones.

I don't have VR yet. I think I want the Index, but when it says it's hardware agnostic, do you think that will apply to Roborecall? It's the game I want the most.

>>251829082
Alex Jones was right

>>251829231
yeah you can use roborevive to play Robo Recall with SteamVR

HADOKEN!

>>251829231
They mean that SteamVR is system-agnostic, meaning SteamVR (and Steam by extension) is not exclusive to the Index or any HMD. Oculus exclusives are different, though; you have to use an unofficial hack (Revive) to play Oculus games on Vive, and I'm not sure if there will be a separate program for Index.

>>251828476
>>251827732
>>251827337
>>251827594
>>251826585
care to explain what any of this has to do with VR?
index was just released and you'd rather fuck with this shit god damn this general will die soon

Safe space

>>251829626
Off topic, reported.
This is the vrg discord general

>>251829626
They are talking about VR in the discord and are posting about the discord in the thread

>>251829626
The console war is back and now it's about price instead of controllers vs FBT.

>>251830035

Has anyone figured out how to use knuckles on Rift yet?
Fingers sound nice but I don't want to spend $1000 on an entire new headset.

>>251830128
It's $1000 for the headset, the knucks, and two 2.0 lighthouses bundled together.

>>251830217
I can't exactly use Rift sensors with the Index, though, now, can I?

>>251830307
No. Lighthouses are different from the Rift 1's sensors.

>>251830464
Yes. So I'd have to pay full price for the entire thing. It was a figure of speech.

>>251830128
You don't want hands tracked on a separate playspace to the headset.

>>251830128
Yes, you have to buy base stations, a Steam Controller dongle, and the controllers. Then in the steamVR config, allow running multiple drivers at once. Flash the Steam Controller dongle to turn it into a Watchman dongle, then use SteamVR Advanced Settings or some other tool to align the coordinate spaces.

>>251830618
fuck

>>251830618
You forgot to mention the playspaces won't stay aligned so the hands will gradually move out of position.

>everyone complaining about the price

FUCK CASUALS

>>251825085
Love you too, anon. I love VR too and hate to see it's dividing people when it's meant to bring us all closer together.

I am an alcoholic with crippling depression and low self esteem plus severe anxiety haha guess who I am bros

>>251832324
Wings?

>>251832116
The fuck did that guy do to you?

>>251832491
Dah it's nothing, he's knows I'm just joshin' with him. We besties off the court.

>>251832618
His fault for letting him throw the ball

Payday 2 is a good VR game

Reminder:
Vive at launch was $800
Rift at launch was $600 without controllers and with only one sensor

>Index is £919 ($1197) for a beginner
Yikes, looks like I might have to go for the Vive after all. Unless the Oculus one is actually any good?

>>251833676
Rift S is a glorified slim model, Quest is high end mobile VR. Vive with the wireless adapter might be the best choice if Index is giving you pause.

Alright anons, I know you are thinking "oh fug shop" but I am hear to tell you, it is just going to continue chugging along. A few things have been considered, one of which was a concept I was mulling over before the whole D day thing, but now is a good time to do it as well. What would anons think about using Wednesday shop in the thread as well as the cord? Anons who need help or wish to post progress on work can post it in the thread and get input and help using the thread. Just suggested this as an idea as it might help recover thread flow, but please do give some input to the idea. Outside of ideas shop has been pretty good, a few breakthroughs were made in the Koikatsu process, this made it so quality of the models and the textures went up, but it takes a bit more time even with the time saving methods. Don't know if Koikatsu exporting is going to be something under 10 minutes, at least tutorial wise, so it is time to consider how to condense explanations. Hopefully Koikatsu doesn't take up the entire shop but eh.

DM Dal if you desire progress, wish to regress, or just want to be destructive.

>>251830676
Yeah, you might as well just buy the Index, or the Vive. SteamVR tracking is better anyways and there will be more peripherals for it.

Wouldn't the Valve Index have a major mic problem? You would forced to map push to talk or echo everyone.

EU slimes

>>251834193
ohno
jellys taking over

>>251834070
It's 100 db at 1 cm which is headphone tier.

>>251823953
i fully support this notion

>>251833053
>still cheaper than a vive pro
God at least they're putting HTC in their place a bit.

>>251834950
The true chad experience is turning particles and explosions to 20000% with particle overdrive.

>>251834193
end this now

>>251835213
damn [b] has a rich boyfriend

>>251835213
>look at me I'm rich

>>251835213
Government contract jobs are nice.

>>251794923

one big thing is I expect this headset to be advertised all over the Steam Store, which the Vive never really has been despite being available there

>>251835913
>vr
>an expensive hobby
laughing at you from cars and guns

Meat

Kino

>>251835913
Shutup, he earned his money.

>>251835691
and gets fucked in the ass by other people along with rak getting fucked in the ass by other people

>>251835213
>2 vives = $450*2
>vive pro = $800
>rift = $350
That's $2050 if everything was bought new with lowest msrp

>>251836184
But you don't own the same car twice or with 2 different engines?

Fireworks