/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #723

You don't have to be an anime girl

Tonight we're doing another special edition one dollar config game!
The gun prices are so low that they're INSANE
Come out and play some sweat-free pavlov and buy as many sawed-off shotguns as you like.

Tonight means right now!
Join the Shitposting Addiction Therapy Center server to find us. It's in the community servers tab.
To join you'll also have to whitelist. Just go here and click let me in:
https://letmein.pablub.club/

>>279628204
but you still should

@pavlov
Tonight we're doing another special edition one dollar config game!
The gun prices are so low that they're INSANE
Come out and play some sweat-free pavlov and buy as many sawed-off shotguns as you like.

Tonight means right now!
Join the Shitposting Addiction Therapy Center server to find us. It's in the community servers tab.
To join you'll also have to whitelist. Just go here and click let me in:
https://letmein.pablub.club/

Don't forget to go tell Hiro why we need a virtual reality board.
>>>/qa/3107649

>discord is back in the OP and event posters are running rampant....

This new VR board can’t come soon enough...

>>279628204
(but actually you do if you want anyone using an anime avatar (most people) to treat you as a peer)

>>279628370
He most likely bailed

>>279628204
>>279628256
>>279628390
You should use whatever you want.

>>279628370
I don’t think begging is the right way but if the 2chan vr board is successful then it’ll soon follow on 4chan

>>279628516
You should be yourself, filtered through an anime girl lens.

>>279628370
>>>/qa/3107671
He already seems to have decided.

>>279628520
>but if the 2chan vr board is successful then it’ll soon follow on 4chan
Tell me more about this 2chan VR board.

Link?

>>279628375
>event posters
Is that what we're calling people who actually play VR games now?

>>279628660
Find it yourself, I don’t read moon speak

>>279628370
It won't happen

>>279628370
He already said no.

>>279628842
yup, leaderfag caught on as well, has a nice ring to it

>>279628842
If you actually played VR you would be spamming events down people throats.

>>279629072
Except that your events are literally ALL organized via Discord, you only post them here to curry favor with the people in Discord who still are protective of the thread
Cut the strings and fuck off already please

>>279628375
>the OP is no longer a shitpost and people are playing VR games
Looks fine to me.

>>279628641
He decided before anyone here even knew about the post. It's like he asked /v/ if a VR board was a good idea.

>>279628660
Don't know what that anon was talking about. I don't see one.

>>279629034
Fun fact about leaderfag: I started it and I actually used it to refer to both dal AND jelly because they were both in it together with that roleplay leadership alliance thing.

>>279629667
All three of you were harmful, then. Leaderfag as it stands is something used to discourage anyone from trying to have fun with other people in VR.

>>279629667
Thanks for the history lesson, I'm sure this knowledge that an Anonymous person said a word at some point will do me a lot of good

>>279629590
>He decided before anyone here even knew about the post
The fact that he wrote it off after 20 minutes and a handful of posts should be enough to show he wasn't really serious about it anyways.

>>279628375
Yeah we should delete the coordinated VR content, gives us more room to metapost and shitpost about how Discord ruined everything

>>279630084
Exactly.
Spam his email if you really want him to think something of it

VR fantasy MMORPG when?

>>279630595
Aren't MMOs in general dead?

>>279630595
RunescapeVR fucking WHEN

>>279630595
Orbus is out, but it's not that good. You can try the demo if you want to find out for yourself though.
The only thing I know of that's in development is Zenith, and that's cyberpunk. I really hope it ends up being good though, I'd like to have at least one VRMMO that's worth playing.

>>279627895 (Cross-thread)
>VR on 4chan is too big for /vrg/ as a social group
I hadn't thought about it like that before. Looking at other threads, none of them seem to have significantly more than 100 posters. I guess that's some kind of limit. Of course, the thread gets the worst posts that no-one wants to make under their own name elsewhere.

>>279630689
Yeah, but a man can dream right? Honestly I just want an RPG where I can go do quests and dungeons with a cute elf girl to heal me. Maybe one day it will happen

>>279630595
VRchat. Only you're leveling yourself up instead of your character.

>>279631289
Too bad the CHA stat is locked to whatever you spawned with. No cute elf girls and it wouldn't matter since I'd fail the speech check. There's also no endless world filled with adventures, monsters and treasure. Only thing you level up is your cosmetic outfit

>>279632113
You can absolutely level CHA, but you might need to buff it with an ale or 9 to get over the threshold for an initial success.

>>279632256
I've been grinding CHA for a couple years now. Once you get to a certain level it kinda gets out of hand though, can barely control it.

>>279632256
Sounds like a fun game mechanic in a real RPG desu, especially with the lowered stats right after

So is Assetto Corsa better than Project Cars 2 VR?
Rally 2.0 looks cool but I'd rather have more cars and paved circuits

>>279632759
I'd say AC is better, more moddable from what i know and we play here weekly.

>>279632759
AC has better performance, Mod support with a large community behind it. Better driving model.
Down side is the UI is cumbersome and not in VR

>>279632759
AC and become a true VR racing boomer
https://assettocorsa.club/mods/auto/honda-racing-lawn-mower.html

>>279632759
I think it's a lot better, although Project Cars 2 does have better VR support.
It's also on sale right now.
https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/assetto-corsa
https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/assetto-corsa-ultimate-edition

Arknights!

Link to the discord?

>>279633685
Oh, at 10 bucks that's a no brainer to at least try

>>279634561
It's in the first pastebin in the OP

>>279634720
OH thanks. I'm retarded.

>>279633986
Every single time you fucks use a non-OC avatar I associate them with you and it ruins the character for me. Shit sucks and it limits the doujins I can fap to.

>>279630974
It's called Dunbar's number.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number

>>279635484
>he can't keep them dissociated

I think I'm going to get an Oculus-S at the end of next month, is that the standard now that the normal Vive was taken off the market?

>>279636253
Rift S is the best price-performance ratio for PCVR right now. Vive is still on the market for $400 iirc, but it's worse than the Rift S for most purposes. Only exception would be upgrading piecemeal to index, and getting FBT for vrchat.

>>279636494
Can you not upgrade the S to FBT? I'm going to be using it almost entirely for Vrchat

>>279636717
Yes you technically can, but if that's a major selling point for you, you're better off with vive/index.

>>279636717
You can, but the hybrid setup is a bit janky, and you'll need to buy lighthouses in addition to the pucks, about ~$260 when I bought them. If you're sure you'll mostly be in vrchat, then it may be worth going vive. I guess the only way to get vive now is their "certified preowned" sets for $400.

>>279637000
>>279637009
how much is the piecemeal upgrade compared to a "preowned" vive?

>>279637464
You'll have to look on steam and do some ebay searching yourself for that

last minute gaynime movie Ride Your Wave in 10 minutes. Join on anyone in the Fancy Cat Theater. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9193612/

>>279637464
Unless you find a full Vive setup for less than $250, upgrading to the Index is going to cost more than just buying the full Index kit. I wouldn't recommend an Index as a first headset though unless you know you're going to spend a ton of time in VR since it's so expensive.

>>279638541
I don't think I'm going to get an Index, I'm between an S or vive from ebay. As I understand I'd just need a the pucks in order to do FBT since the vive comes with two bases right?

>>279639208
correct, but the vive itself is old and shitty with terrible controllers, the rift s is better in many ways. biggest factor to decide would probably be do you need ipd adjustment

>>279639208
>is considering FBT
Yeah just get a Vive and pucks.

>>279639208
Yeah, for Vive, you'd just need the pucks.
For Rift S, you'd base stations too, which could run you anywhere from $180 to $260 extra depending on where you get them.

>>279628364
some pavlov streamables from today and fridaylov

https://streamable.com/b2md3
https://streamable.com/pjst2
https://streamable.com/obida
https://streamable.com/936ua
https://streamable.com/2ris8
https://streamable.com/v74q8
https://streamable.com/d6ngh

We met a new friend!

>>279639325
so the vr market right now is pay $400 for either old and shit with easy fbt or new and up to date with hard fbt. OR I pay a thousand dollars for both in an index or vive pro. I think I'll forget fbt for now and get an S and if I like VR as much as I think I will I'll sell it and get an index later this year when they're in stock. /blog

>>279640212
Literally exactly what i was going to tell you to do.
Smart guy, i like you

>>279640212
That is correct.
Rift-S is the best entry level VR headset in the market right now.

Unless you want to bring over the VR to parties and friends then Quest is much better for that purpose.

>>279640212
good ganbare dood

>>279635484
>limits the doujins I can fap to
Ahahahaha get dunked on coomer

>>279640339
>Unless you want to bring over the VR to parties and friends then Quest is much better for that purpose.
lmao yeah

>279640035
Here's a pity (You)

>>279640035
I can't believe someone has and uses a Louise avatar.

>>279640719
It's a public avatar. You should be able to figure this out.

>>279640212
Yep, that's the best approach. You can also still rig together a kinect or the hybrid approach if you really really need to lay down in VR. It's not hard, just more inconvenient. t. did the hybrid setup with rift CV1 for a year before switching to index.

Are boothcats still hip?

You don't become your own waifu what the fuck is wrong with you people!?
You become a man your waifu wants to fuck!

>>279642660
About as hip as faithposting.

>>279642660
Boothcats are still the best base models out there. Such variety to pick to now as well. Specially with the upcoming Virtual Market 4 the choices will only get bigger.

Your wallet might shrink though.

>>279643292
2020 is the year Faith returns and becomes the queen

A year ago today!

Almost 2 years ago

>>279646034
There's a new sheriff in town

>>279646987
Man I miss the kemonos.
Seems like so few remain that use the base models of old.

jelly

>>279646034
ran is the new faith
ramen is the new arrow

>>279647147
The odds were always stacked against them. I switched away from a kemono base just by accident and got a lot of sudden positive attention. People take the anti-kemono shitposting seriously.

>>279647147
the hena models are just so much better

>>279647147

>>279647147
/vrg/ and 4chan as a whole prizes the unique and original. The kemonos that remain are now unique and distinct but ye of olde were bland clones. The boothcats have the same problem.

There is nothing inherently wrong with kemonos or TDAs or Boothcats. The reason they were ever bad is because they got overused and people got tired of seeing the same shit over and over again, or done in bad taste (tattoos, terrible head swaps, etc).
So really, it's not that we hated kemonos, or anything like that (well most of us), but that we hated the overuse of them.

>>279627970 (OP)
how do i get into vr cheaply bros? been wanting to buy them but i don't have money

>>279649734
VR is not cheap, you're not getting VR for low money.

>>279649734
not happening for cheap. get a Rift-S and see from there if you want to go for more expensive options like the index.

>>279649734
Believe the cheapest yet decent headset is the samsung odyssey but even that is 200USD or so. Then theres the issue of needing a PC strong enough to handle VR

>>279649734
Odyssey+. Upgrade your computer first.

>>279649734
It is cheap. It only looks expensive because you're poor

>>279628204
Nani?!

>>279649734
Odyssey+ is going to be your best bet, it's $230 from Samsung right now.
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/hmd/windows-mixed-reality/hmd-odyssey-windows-mixed-reality-headset-xe800zba-hc1us/
If you want to go even cheaper, you can look for one of the other WMR headsets refurbished, but I wouldn't really recommend it.

>>279649734
Go to a gay bar
take a twink home
Have him put on a dress and put a mask on him
Suck his dick
???
Profit!

>>279649734
Cheapest way is with a quest but that leaves you out of all the pc gaming fun that we have.
If you want to pc vr you need a decent cpu from the last 6 years and a 1060 6gb minimum gpu
Buy yourself a rift s or a samsung odyssey+ if you are really on a budget

>>279651770
>out of all the pc gaming fun
You can easily upgrade using Quest link cable

are there any racing or car games i can play with only the oculus hand controllers and not a gaming wheel

when can i be a boothcat in pavlov?

>>279652475
https://github.com/mdovgialo/steam-vr-wheel/releases
This simulates a wheel using motion controllers. No idea how good it is but should be better than a gamepad.

Dear decimated, I was onto you for a while. I thought you were a liar but everything pointed towards honesty. Until today. My closest friend, the only one ever messaged me, and me the only one who ever messaged him, trusted each other. You told me something that was not what he witnessed. You failed at manipulating me. I heard you rage. You mad that you got fucking caught? Congratulations, you preyed on me just like everyone else. Fuck you.

>>279654424
Oh, right, you were crying right? Weird that I never heard that. You seemed pretty mad when caught. Weird that there were no tears

You didn't shed a single tear. We both cried. That's what's fully convinced me.

Manipulative cunt. I loved you so much. I knew you wanted control and manipulation, I fed that to you. That wasn't enough.

>>279652987
Unironically VRchat might have a Multiplayer VRFPS proper shooter with UDON than dave allowing easy customization of avatars.

>tfw Square will never make a Theatrhythm Beat Saber ripoff

>>279656317
I would be content with just good beat saber Final Fantasy songs

>>279655302
>>279655524
Gee I wonder

>>279656991
We both cried, yet the one I loved didn't. Does that make more sense?

>>279654424
>>279654904
>>279655302
>>279655524
>>279657034

>>279657034
Am I supposed to care?

>>279657375
Of course not you psychopath.

>>279657664
>psychopath
Oh you're just the local retard. Of course we don't care about you.

I just realized that straws are really important if you want to drink something but not take your headset off.

>>279628505
>>279628641
>>279628870
>>279628993
He said no before anyone even got to show support for the idea, of course /v/ fags and contrarians will say no.
VR is too big (Quest, PSVR, Gamedev, news, VRChat, /3/, /soc/, /trash/ and VRFPS in one thread doesn't work). I know you faggots are probably completely fine with shitting on the thread and then sitting in the Discord, but a separate board is the only way to make VR discussion not complete shit again.

>>279658954
VR is not big enough for there to be a dedicated board.

>>279658954
The board would also have a meta thread for your bitching about discord, trannies, leaderfags and other non VR related shit. So we will keep that contained.
Sugoi!

>>279659197
Why not? Because you say so?
How is /mlp/ or /vp/ a thing?
/vr/ is a thing, and so should be proper VR. VR is larger than any of these and it needs separation in common things like /3/. I want a proper Unity/UE4 VR game dev threads, it's pointless to talk about it in agdg when VR is so different from the rest of the games.

>>279659270
Fuck off you self-centered pricks, nobody wants to talk about this shit other than you. It's because it's all contained in one thread and you self-post so much. Nobody will care about /vrg/'s namefags on a VR board that won't be utter garbage like this thread so it won't scare people away with the rampant faggotry.

you know where i live hire someone to kill me. please. i cant live anymore.

OG Vive had more soul than Index.

>>279659530
mlp and vp were borne of autism orders of magnitude beyond anything happening here
this thread is chump change in the bigger picture

>>279661276
>soul
Yeah, if SDE is soul...

http://dulm.blue/normie/test.php

>>279661276
We soul ranking now?
For me it's DK1>CV1>DK2>Quest>Vive>Index>Rift S>WMR

>>279661505
More soul than LCD contrasts and black levels.
The design was more robust and made more sense, the headset was more customizable
>hurr frunk, reddit's gonna love it, let's not do anything with it
>comes with a shitty faceplate that causes tracking issues.
>audio doesn't let you immerse yourself, have to constantly adjust it just moves away
>twice the cameras, passthrough infinitely worse than Vive's
>no wireless
Higher resolution and better clarity just gives the devs a way to be lazy about designing their games.

>>279661527
If you're not in the red, I want to see you drop dead.

>>279661727
i want to see you succeed at life and have a nice day

>>279661212
Suffer jelly

>>279661813
>>279661727
the duality of /vrg/.

>>279661527
Can't be bothered to do it again but last time I did it I got sperg

>>279661527
>tfw pretty much right in the fucking middle for literally every single one of these tests and this one isn't different either
>also average in body size and other characteristics
>tfw literally the mean average human bean

>500€ for an oculus quest
What's the purpose of this again? Isn't this the vr equivalent of "mobile games"?

>>279661527
This is dumb shockingly. I don't have friends, am virgin and don't get invited to things because I don't have friends.

>>279661608
All post-FB acquisition oculus is zero soul and should be waaayyy in the right.

>>279663280
CV1 had tons of soul from their and Valve's prototyping work before the acquisition, that was then enabled to exist because of Facebook funding. It's extremely soulful. The Quest was Carmack's baby and it shows, it has tons of soul. Rift S doesn't have Carmack but does have a bit of his work leaked into it so it's slightly higher in soul than WMR but still not as soulful as the other headsets.

Software is a different story, however. But then again, Steam and WMR portal or whatever it's called lack soul very much, too, they're all pretty bad.

>>279663274
sounds lame

imagine what if hiro would actually care and make a /vr2/ for vr
>vrchat thread
>pavlov thread
>hardware threads
>hl:a thread
>general hype threads, newbies asking for advices
>people universally shitting on wmr
>maybe even software development threads
>no one gets scared and runs away because of the specific nature of our wonderful general
>everything's slow because it's a slow board, no one minds, your contractors general can survive for weeks before getting deleted due to zero replies

and then you end up with tons of reddit tier normies in your pavlov game, and people of your favorite community are unironically giving you shit for a female avatar. you post some crap about good old days and finally leave the place forever, because your era had just ended

>>279666713
>a VR thread without tranny drama
Imagine

>>279666713
Hiro only cares about stuff that gives him money. Maybe if the board also covered stuff about virtual youtubers it could work.

>>279668449
if i'll see a separate vr board, i'm gonna buy pass

>>279668845
>implying Hiro will get off his ass and create a new board

>>279652987
You already can, just has to be rigged to the UE4 skeleton.

NOOOOOO HIROOOO DON’T MAKE THE VR BOARD! HOW A MY SUPPOSE TO SHITPOST THE THREAD AND GET ALL ATTENTION!!! IF YOU MAKE THE BOARD I WONT BE ABLE TO GET ATTENTION NOOOO. IM A TRANNY THAT CRAVE ATTENTION 24/7 NOOO HIRO NOOOO

>>279666713
>and then you end up with tons of reddit tier normies in your pavlov game, and people of your favorite community are unironically giving you shit for a female avatar.
As opposed to reddit anime tier normies in your everything we ended up here.
People you describe wouldn't care about your fucking avatar, because they don't play trash like VRChat. I really wish to discuss VR without your average /vrg/ user at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY57Vn0qTiU
>Me and the boys checking up on a leaderfag after the /qa/ thread

is the bot broken for the discord? shit aint letting me in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B203twyaMfM
>Hiro, I don't understand. Who needs a board for VR anyway? All you gotta do is join the Disc*rd.
>Cease shitposting. Namedrop your vrfu in every thread, tranny. NAMEDROP YOUR VRFU IN EVERY THREAD!
>...
>The tranny can't namedrop in every thread... if you give VR an entire board. Dilate!

>>279672907

If /vr/ board gets created which it won’t, then it’ll basically just be /lgbt/ 2.0 or /vrsoc/ and it’ll probably further destroy the image of VR...

However I’m not against it but the only way we can get the board made is by spreading out into other boards. That’s how /aco/, /pony/ and any other niché interest got its own board.

They where shitposting so hard and spamming every other boards that the other boards had enough of their bullshit and mod created their own containment board.

If we just stay in here and wage war against each other we will never get a board but if we spread awareness through the other boards then hiro or mods might see that we need our own board.

Maybe you guys have another strategy. Let’s just try to do it, only leaderfags wouldn't won’t a board. It would literally solve all our problems!

>>279673032
Where's Part 3

>>279673857
>discord damage control enters the thread

>>279673857
Sorry, are you writing a poem?

Why do you type like this, holy shit.

You're even splitting up sentences that belong in the same paragraph.

>>279674815
I’m on my phone at the job. You probably can’t relate

>>279675034
I take the effort to hide that I'm phoneposting at work, so no, I can't.

>>279675091
Why don’t you just hide the fact that you erp in VR you degenerate.

Just end me pls you took everything from me and know everything about me just ruin me I don’t won’t to do this anymore end it pls

>>279675720
I want to be casual friends with you

Pls now just cut me off from this endless loop. End me I can’t take it no more

>>279675720
hot

>>279676078
i just want to play video games, bro

the flavor today's shitposting is somewhat off the baseline, but i can't say i hate it

>>279676310
He's just waiting for the rest of the shitposters to wake up

>>279675957
Aaaw <3 you might not know me but I know you and I have been watching over you like a guardian angel. Stay strong

Sorry about my retard vrfu, guys - she gets like this when she forgets to take her pills.
Don't worry, I'll make sure to buzz some sense into her tonight.

>>279677561
I’m hidden in the shadow of the thread you have never noticed me, like a fly on the wall. Reject me all you won’t but I’ll stay here watching, until your broken smile will come back and only then you’ll miss me. Stay strong love

>>279678131
You might be confused, frustrated and sad now...but we have bigger plans for you. Keep your head high child. Maybe you can already see the light at the end of the tunnel.

>>279678575
We are no god just mere followers. We don’t punish, only accept the outcome.

um, sir this is an Arby’s.

So close to Chad, but as always I fuck it up in a few key aspects...

>>279678851
You might be the hanged man now, scapegoating and matyrdom, but soon you’ll take the death card symbolizing your rebirth and inner change.you’ll be our emperor one day.

>>279662697
It's the VR equivalent of a console.

You better be playing my videogames, anon.

>>279679526
I got (-5, 0.25) but it says 'sperg' which is the wrong side of the axis.

>>279635484
Every time you fucks use a non-oc avatar I associate them with you and it makes the doujins better <3~

>>279679554
Can you please start using a trip again like you did in /dsg/? It would make it a lot easier to filter you. Thanks

>>279672967
Isnt noe that one VRCA tranny that had irl pics and he went to ship tours or something and he turned out to be a fucking tall as fuck ugly lanklet

>>279683485
noe is nintendo of europe

If you don't want a vr board you are more interested in having a unique 4chan vr club and shitposting within a mostly inclosed community then you are interested in actual vr and discussing it
Prove me wrong

>>279684730
I want it to break up the concept of /vrg/. Pretending we're all one group despite being too large and too varied in interests. There cannot be, for example, a sprint vector group because posts about it are just lost among much bigger interests. A thread on a slow board could potentially gather a following, even if it's only a few people.

Play BattleGroupVR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE4nUHkpqAI

>>279680559
so you've decided to sperg about it in the thread. gosh anon

>>279679526
whenever I try this stupid test it puts me as a chad but im definitely not a chad, so its a shitty test

>>279630974
>>279630974
VR is big enough to sustain a board and the quality of our conversations would go way up.
Anyone who doesn't believe that hasn't looked at /3/, /po/ /fa/ or any other "slow" board.
Not everything has to be as fast as /vg/, which is a board that only exists because "generals" threads break 4chan hard.
/cvg/ on pol has had hundreds of threads hit the bump limit already because jannies were dumb and didn't keep the sticky up.

vr is far more popular than papercraft. It could have it's own board, and we can finally put this idea that we need to split the threads to bed. We really should be pushing hiroshimoot to do it.
He has a different perspective too, VR is way bigger in internet culture in japan than anything else is right now, by a wide margin.

>>279684730
I don't want an incredibly slow, poorly moderated VR board, and that's exactly what we'd get right now. When we actually have enough content to justify a board, it'll make sense to have one.

>>279632759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyWa2lnNzUY

>>279684730
t. leaderfag

Anon, you are able do all of the OST maps on expert+ right? v1.7.0 patch just came out with new maps

https://streamable.com/ihnmj
play beat saber

>>279685481
Is this like EVE online

>>279666713
>>279666713
to get the level of vr us obsessives want, eternal September has to happen to redpill everyone else to the hmd driven future of gaming.
Don't downplay the impact this general has on a vr game's success, it's actually huge and the people that lurk and don't post carry advice and suggestions back to their social spheres.
Pavlov is successful in part because of this thread, VRChat even more so (many of vrchat's staff and inner circle members are /a/ /v/ /vg/ etc posters even before steam release, but you knew that).
This thread when it's not shitted up with general bullshit has massive sway over vr in a way that is more far reaching than we realize.

>>279686415
The thing is most things can't be discussed on this thread because it gets hidden amongst all the other posts, most of them irrelevant shitposting
This puts off heaps of people from even coming here to discuss in the first place
Go to any other thread or board and post about /vrg/, you will likely get some responses by people saying they have visited this place then ran away because its mostly drama posting, people want to discuss vr and vr games and this is currently the biggest place to do it but fails at its own purpose

>>279668449
ill buy a pass if he makes/vrg/ kill

>>279686854
As it is, the 100ish anons can't post much discussion through our few dedicated shitposters, a split is dumb because we would end up with two threads to shitpost and stretching of posters, an entire board to shitpost with new jannies that might actually ban the retard complaining about nonsense for the 100th time with the same posting style. That would work.

>>279683485
i think he meant to say now

>>279686402
>/3/, /po/ /fa/ or any other "slow" board
/vr/ would be a much better comparison considering the type of posters that new board would be likely to attract.

as shit as yesterday was it was still nice meeting you irc faggots cheers to more fun times CHEER KIPPAI KAMPEI FUCK VEE ARRR GEE E NIGGERS

>>279686415
there's more than enough content to justify a board, by far.
This thread is fast, and it would be a fuck of a lot faster if people knew where to find it or it wasn't shitted up with 90% vrchat content or relationship shitposting, which turns people off.
Being able to just make a damn thread on a certain game or headset or whatever would bring double or triple or more the unique users.
I love vrchat too, but WE become gatekeepers to future newbros because nobody has afucking clue what's going on.
occasionally newbros come and ask a question which helps to derail the bullshit and it's always good when they do, but then they leave and don't stick around because nothing else we post makes any sense unless you hang out with /vrg/ in vrchat.
We gatekeep ourselves and even split into several groups in vrchat due to timezones and map user limits.
We're "small" because we only exist here.
A virtual reality board would blow up.
le reddit tards have 5 different boards for VR alone with hundreds of thousands of users subbed to each one.

a /vr/ board is the perfect solution because then the trannies cant cry about how vrchat NEEDS to be the main topic because THE THREAD WILL DIE OTHERWISE!!!
just look at /3/

>>279686734
It's a RTS based game where you command your fleet from the bridge of your designated flagship while you watch shit explode in space. It's still in its early stages but it's super easy to get an alpha key

>>279685134
>There cannot be, for example, a sprint vector group
There could be if you shill it hard enough and you're persistent enough. It might not be the biggest thing in the general, but if you have enough people join to have fun, it'd be fine, right?
>>279686854
>most things can't be discussed on this thread
I don't think that's true, I just rarely see anyone try.

>>279686660
>expert+
No, expert is hard enough and expert+ is just pure trial and error autism.

>>279686754
i mean, i'm not downplaying it by any chance. i know that most of vrgies are informative people who can very much handle a proper discussion. just wanted to sulk at shitposters a bit. i've been recognizing some of posters from here on /v/, too. we're alright

still, i can imagine someone being scared of this thread

>>279687427
To add on to what this anon is saying: Mahjong only allows four (4) people to play at a time, and still gets plenty of posts on the weekends

>>279687437
Depends on the song. Some expert+ songs have too many blocks coming too quickly to the point where it's like they expect me to t-rex wrist flick everything. Doesn't make for an enjoyable time since I also play beatsaber for cardio.

>>279687427
nobody tries because the topic will be vaporous and vanish after the thread hits the bump limit.
It's hard enough to stay on topic with pavlov, poker, majong, racing, contractors, travels to other vr spaces, vivecraft...
Imagine if the people running those servers and events could have their own thread.
Imagine how many more people would go, "damn, I feel like blasting eurobeat while racing other bros tonight, I wonder how I would do that?" and the AC general has all the resources at the top of the thread.
We need our own. We can't sustain VR game generals past initial hype in /vg/ even though many of those games see 5k plus active vr users daily/weekly.
hell, there are individual games on /vg/ with less players, but because vr is it's own beast that is very different from regular pc gaming and includes mobile, but also doesn't fit into either, the only solution would be a /virtual/.
if it included Virtual Idol and MMD, type stuff too it would be a hit and the board would do well, it would already do better than most slow boards do now.

>>279687437
it's not trial and error really, the new expert+ songs were all manageable to be honest. I could do them on sightread

what was really surprising is the usage of these wide ass hits (pic related)

>>279687427
>There could be if you shill it hard enough and you're persistent enough. It might not be the biggest thing in the general, but if you have enough people join to have fun, it'd be fine, right?
Nah, you'll just be shitposted and nobody will join it anyway. It's just dumb, having a dedicated thread would be better. If it gets replies, there's interest. If not then you drop it. You could find different fags from different boards and direct them there.
I'd host Vox Machinae, get mecha fags on it as it doesn't require VR, but fuck me if I ever direct anyone to this shithole or the fucking botnet I'm not even part of.

>>279687908
>Some expert+ songs have too many blocks coming too quickly to the point where it's like they expect me to t-rex wrist flick
That's what makes it boring. Atleast expert is fair, expert+ you have to memorize every single note and tryhard. At that point you're not playing to have fun. Some expert+ songs are okay but most are trash.

>>279687427
>I don't think that's true, I just rarely see anyone try.
If people could post something and its actually visible for people to see instead of hiding many posts beneath all the other crap, more people would be encouraged to post.
Having a dedicated thread to some topics will allow for discussions to continue for a while, and they won't die out after a maximum of 10 posts like most actual things discussed on here that actually do get replies
The board may be somewhat slow at first with some threads getting a response only once every few days, but that doesn't mean the thread is pointless. The threads would still be used every now and then for the lesser played games, there would be at least a few that are quite active like vrchat and pavlov/vrfps and due to the fact things are much more well organised and split up for easy viewing there would be a much much higher influx of new people that can join in and play games or discuss certain things they want to talk about.

>>279687437
>>279687908
i passed most of expert+ in the base game by sight reading after i "got it". you need to get to a point where you aren't reading the notes that are coming at you and just reacting. one song i still can't get past on expert+ and can still cause me some issue on expert is crystallized, but i keep getting better as i understand the patterns and just react to them

>>279687212
>there's more than enough content to justify a board
I'd really like to see your list of every VR game worth playing.
>This thread is fast
It's slow, and without the shitposting it'd be even slower. We haven't been fast since 2018.

>>279688246
>>279687908
lol Expert+ is about 150 pp max, which is clear first time with 90+% on custom songs tier for me and I'm not even in the top 2000. You just haven't played enough and presume the only possible way is memorization, not getting better at the game.

Hiro recently posted on /qa/ regarding a Virtual Reality board >>>/qa/3107649
After eight posts and a few minutes later, he decided against it.

I'd like to take a poll and see what your thoughts are on the matter.
https://www.strawpoll.me/19320271/

>>279685134
>>279688198
>there cannot be a sprint vector group
Yes, there can be. The solution is to actually host these things and get people playing instead of waiting around complaining that nobody is.
Sunday gets the RedOut/Contractors crews out, Wednesday has regular Assetto Corsa, Friday gets people playing Pavlov/Rec Room/Onward/whichever game gets voted on. EU Pavlov was started by an anon hosting regular lobbies and Beat Saber gets hosted albeit infrequently. Consistency is a proven formula but the first step is never taken because people are afraid of getting shitposted for wanting to play vidya with other people.
Just fucking host. Refusing to do so just gives the shitposters validation, and if you don't want bring people in here? Start up a thread on /v/.

>>279688198
>Nah, you'll just be shitposted and nobody will join it anyway
but...
>dedicated thread would be better. If it gets replies, there's interest. If not then you drop it.
These are one and the same, you can't blame lack of interest on shitposting if there is an actual lack of interest. And then you say the problem right there. "Nah, just give up, no point trying to get people to play VR games", which circles around to more room for shitposting.
Stop being a little faggot and actively try to garner interest for a game instead of posting a video saying "anyone played this?" once and then giving up.

>>279688578
You're about 12 hours late to the party

>>279687427
It might be 'possible' but it would be so difficult it's not really worth it. You'd have to advertise it so much and sit in lobbies alone regularly for weeks until the interested players finally see it and join. Not to mention those that will manage to conflate it with VRchat drama, attempts at become a leader, and generally complaining about posts they aren't interested in.

>>279686734
It's not as bigbrain as EVE, it's very much like the old Homeworld games with a micromanagement emphasis on controlling your fleet ships. You need to take firing arcs and active ship abilities into consideration rather than straight up brawling along with managing shield facings but there's nothing spreadsheet simulator. You can turn your bridge transparent to get a better look at the combat outside or change to a floating camera that you navigate around the battlefield but most of the game centers around your main holo-map where you are selecting units

Watching the new Re:zero Directors Cut episode in VRChat in 1.5 hours! 8PM UTC

>>279688578
Watch it get posted on Discord and peaking in "no" replies because you faggots can't stand the idea of not having 100% of VR discussion to yourself and the thread being the "so bad you just have to join the discord".

>>279688836
>so difficult it's not really worth it
Then quit complaining no one plays a particular game, you get out what you put in, and all you have are shitty excuses

>>279688575
I have beaten some songs on expert+, I just don't find it as enjoyable. I also only play custom songs so that might also be a reason why I have a distaste for expert+ since they're either autism tier or just badly synced/mapped.

>>279688548
There is heaps of games worth playing, just crack open steam and go to the vr section and you will see dozens of fun games. There are many games you won't find on there too that are being produced by different developers or have vr support.

It's slow because of both the shitposting and its largeness, I used to post here 10+ times daily just about vr when shitposting was more rare but now post only once every few days at most and I know many others who did the same.
VR is a big thing on 4chan, I have discussed vr and sometimes mentioned vrg on other threads and boards many times and they all end up saying that vrg is a steaming shithole so they don't bother but that they also want a place to discuss it

>>279689115
You need to play ranked songs so you have a (somewhat) consistent progression.

>>279688836
Then we're back to square one. You'd get shitposted no matter what and you'd still get the same amount of people regardless. The key is to stop caring about what some random faggot posts about you. You should have learned this by now if you've been on 4chan long enough.

>>279687945
>Imagine if the people running those servers and events could have their own thread
I don't mind taking up a few posts in a thread, but I don't think anything I do is worth a thread on it's own, and, ideally, you wouldn't need those kinds of threads anyways. A VR board existing should mean there's already enough interest in VR that it shouldn't just be a bunch of dead games with no playerbases.
>AC general
Wouldn't exist on a VR board. There's not enough VR specific stuff to talk about, and there's already /ovg/ on /o/ for simracing discussion.
>many of those games see 5k plus active vr users daily/weekly
Like what? Pavlov consistently peaks below 2k, and VRChat is full of desktoppers?

>>279688198
Fuck that shit, hosting can work out with the best or the worst, shitposted or not. If you truly wanted to host games or play them, you unfortunately need to step up and do that. You are right, most fear becoming the new subject of attack, but they don't understand how learning to endure the flames strengthens you.
>>279688637
Consistency is important and a new board would really help out with it, if the mods/jannies enforced off topic posting or clear posters sitting around bogging down the discussion or purposely getting in the way of the VR games, posters could have many threads to start up regular games of. The replayability is the only issue, looking down the line the burnout on some games might grow, hopefully the new blood mixing with the old can help keep shit alive.

>>279689098
The number of failed lobbies is hugely discouraging. Someone ran Steel Heroes consistently for weeks with advanced announcements and never got any players.

>>279689638
because there isnt enough room in a single thread for everyone to dive into more than 3 games at a time, and its always pavlov, always vrc and then one fotm

>>279689447
stop avatarfagging you fucking redditor nigger leaderfag

>>279688894
>>279686734
>>279685481
>and if there is enough interest: basic multiplayer. I expect most of this to be ready middle of 2021.”

>>279689638
>Someone ran Steel Heroes consistently for weeks with advanced announcements and never got any players
I went to the ones I could make it to, and it was pretty fun. I'll go again if he hosts when I'm not busy.

>>279689862
Have you seen a single screencap verifying who the poster is or did you just assume the only one posting a game screencap was your hatefu?

>>279689732
There's also the problem that if you removed the shitposts to make room for on-topic posts the thread would just die because /vg/ is so fast.

>>279688836
>You'd have to advertise it so much and sit in lobbies alone regularly for weeks until the interested players finally see it and join
You know even Pavlov used to basically be like that, right?
>Not to mention those that will manage to conflate it with VRchat drama, attempts at become a leader, and generally complaining about posts they aren't interested in.
Why should you care what they think?

>>279689638
Not having 10 replies or large amounts of discussion does not mean there were no players

>>279688396
>instead of hiding many posts beneath all the other crap
It's almost like discussion would be better if we actually had proper moderation. Too bad even a dedicated board won't fix that.

>>279690083
>the thread would just die because /vg/ is so fast.
i mean you're totally right, but pavlov and vrc and other vr games all deserve to have their own generals, i mean look at /tg/ fucking shitty no name systems get generals all the time, and the board also gets thread topics that arent generals, which would be perfect for the "hobby" nature of VR right now

>>279690219
>You know even Pavlov used to basically be like that, right?
Not really. It went from completely dead to 10 player lobbies almost immediately in 2018. Other lobbies don't even get 10 players after running consistently for months.

>>>/v/494330106

ohhh shit.

>>279690219
>Pavlov used to basically be like that
It still is if you aren't playing on the community servers

>>279690768
>Kagane Luna
It's Kaguya Luna fucking pleb doesn't even know best idol's name he sure as fuck doesn't know shit about VR

>>279689638
Some games are really hard to get players for, that is what the VRChat playerbase has been supplementing this whole time. Anons who host usually go into VRChat and let a bunch of them know I am doing this thing and the players jump on board. If they can't get that initial jump, other players are not interested. The thread could function to generate interest, but mostly all current host are flooded with shitposting each day the events happen. The thread doesn't do its job as advertising for VR games right now and it sucks, so the discord/VRChat fills in for it, it really shouldn't be like that.

>>279690745
>almost immediately
I remember it taking a while to be able to consistently fill lobbies, but it's been a while, so maybe I'm wrong.
>Other lobbies don't even get 10 players after running consistently for months
As long as you're having fun, does it really matter how many people show up?

>>279690768
All game 'discussion' on /v/ is essentially just parroting arguments to attempt to justify owning only a single platform. Most of them don't own VR so writing 'vr bad' 200 times is the same experience.

>>279690768
This reminds me. Why was the discord created? Was it to help manage vr discussions? If so, doesnt that mean hiro is just too slow to give what the community needs to grow?

>>279686660
Have they broken mods again?

>>279692226
It was created when the thread was in an even worse state than now, the Faith saga.

>>279691203
It updated at the start of September, but no-one believed it was improved so no-one even attempted lobbies for a while. Then some played TTT, then SnD lobbies started. I've got a webm from October 9th and I know we'd been playing full lobbies for a while before that.

>>279692246
When have mods literally ever not been broken?

>>279692226
Same faggots had been hanging out in game, some of us were creating inner circlejerks and dming each other, so we just settled on one for all.

>>279692504
They usually only break for a day after an update.

>>279692415
Sounds like a vr board would be a good idea

>>279691068
I remember one time a 10 player Onward lobby was arranged in VRchat, then a few minutes later only 3 people actually joined.

>>279692762
Pulling people out of VRChat can be a challenge, so it requires social spaghetti most don't want to do or know how to do. It kind of is too much effort and the thread doesn't really help, some would rather sit around complaining then playing VR games.

>>279692948
>Pulling people out of VRChat can be a challenge
You should try playing before VRChat starts. I don't get on VRChat until I'm done with everything else for the night, and I just hang out for a bit until I'm ready to go to bed.

>>279692948
The other part of that is the wide variety of genres VRChat supports, why jump into Pavlov to play TTT when you can stay in vrc and play it. As soon as you're done with that you can jump to a new world for shooting, racing, climbing, death run, etc.
It boggles the mind how people don't understand how it became so popular among VR players.

>>279694323
>It boggles the mind how people don't understand how it became so popular among VR players.
Are you serious? All of those are shitty even by VR game standards. It's popular because you can have whatever avatar you want.

>>279694323
FPS in VRchat is unplayable.

>>279694323
it's popular among desktoppers, streamers, and degenerates.
I liked it for dancing and they fucked it up.

>>279692226
The drama and shitposting was so bad that a lot of people had pretty much given up on the thread. Doesn't help that a lot of people joined a discord to work on the vgl soccer team around the same time and got a taste of the forbidden fruit.
The vote still only barely passed, but with the number of people who joined anyways, they must've either changed their minds or got hit hard by FOMO.

>>279694595
when is new network IK coming? The beta has been out for months already

>>279694323
because everything in vrchat is shit. murder game is amazing, but it has shit hit detection, racing worlds are often nice, but controls are beyond retarded, climbing doesn't even has any body inertia. the only good thing about vrchat is that it's all there, and you can try it all out.

>>279694628
>%63 vote yes
>tards invited inactive friends who don't participate in /vrg/ at all to inflate the no vote
>still ended up yes
Huehue,

>>279694737
>had to already be in the soccercord to vote

>>279694484
DOOM is pretty popular regardless
>>279694468
Yeah the avatars are just another part supporting modelers. That reminds me of the support for 3D creativity it offers as well, even more so when Udon comes out.
>>279694707
Which is exactly what I'm saying when that anon says
>Pulling people out of VRChat can be a challenge

>>279694829
>DOOM is pretty popular regardless
because of novelty
>Oooh, Doom in VRChat? I can slay demons as my slutty avatar with my friends? I'm in!
Climbing worlds were shit too compared to Climbey. But you're a literal helmet with hands in Climbey, so nobody's playing it when they can be their coomer puppet.

>>279694323
>the wide variety of genres VRChat supports
Most game worlds aren't very good. Maybe Udon will finally change that, but there's not really anything worth trying more than once or twice. Anything that can be done in another game is always way better there instead.

>>279692246
they work fine from v1.6.1

>>279694829
It's a challenge because you're trying to reason with literal cumskulls. People that bought VR and FBT for VRChat and VRChat alone. You won't convince them to try anything else without their cute avatars they want to be seen as.

>>279694737
It's apparently what the majority wanted either way, so I don't really care. No one forced me to join, and I've been just fine without it.
>>279694802
Not true at all, I joined just to vote no.

>>279694829
>DOOM
That DOOM map is great even if it is a little janky. It definitely has some issues because of the limitations of VRChat though. I still need to get the port set up sometime and play through the whole game in VR.
>>279694996
>Climbing worlds were shit too compared to Climbey
Mechanically, yeah. The environments of some of the climbing maps were a lot better though, and I wish Climbey let you mod in more stuff like that.

>>279692226
>>279694628
>>279694737
>>279694802
>>279695231
reminder that yuru will never hold a second vote in fear of losing power despite almost a year of non-stop shitposting about the discord in the thread
it's very clear that there is a significant portion of anons that don't want a discord server

>>279695027
It's like playing any average game with friends, just having the group together makes up for any lack of polish. Obviously they focus in on that specific thing and are better, but what you can't do is jump to a completely different genre and bring a group of people with you easily.
>>279694996
>>279695157
Like I said in my first reply, it's popular because you can play a wide variety of games with your friends easily, and looking like whatever you want. Just because they're not perfect doesn't mean they can't be fun, and just because some people do whatever gay shit at night doesn't mean the entire population is the same. People who play that still play other games when their not hanging around with friends, but large groups .

>>279688979
15 minute reminder. Come watch with us, it's fun!

>>279696163
Shit, meant to finish that with
large groups will never be able to get together as easily as in vrc.

Does htc vive work without the base stations? Some retard is selling his after upgrading to index but they don't come with the base stations.

>>279695984
Then just don't join it? We have a community alive and well in the thread and if the discord got disbanded you'd complain about trannies invading the thread.

>>279696380
Nope

>>279696178
>"bantz"
have fun!

If I don't care about degenerate stuff like pron or vrchat, is the oculus quest still worth it?

>>279685134
that's what discords are for but retarded trannies (on the board, not just talking about this thread) totally taint the potential for it by turning it into a gay little club instead of just using it as a way to coordinate playing games outside of the thread. 4chan is not a good place to try to find people to play shit with as far as VR is concerned. it works fine for things like TF2 where all you have to do is plug in a server IP to play with a few other retards but VR requires more setup. at this point i don't know if a steam group would be less cancerous, those were fine in 2000s /v/ but i don't think anyone even uses them anymore.

>>279697663
There is a /vrg/ steam group with 256 Members but it not used for anything.

>>279697201
Might as well get Rift, Quest is only good for being able to fap without worrying about getting tangled up in a cord

I suspect (you) fapped to my headpats yesterday

>>279697869
You have suspense of disbelief because I only played Pavlov yesterday and nobody headpatted me get dabbed on

>>279697663
Steam group would be even more cancerous and even less anonymous.

>>279696380
Nope, and for the price of base stations and controllers, you might as well just buy a different headset or a refurbished Vive from HTC instead.

>>279687584
>vrgies
fuck of manipulative /mlpol/ fucker kerning

>>279697201
with a link cable, yeah.
There's a decent amount to do on it's own platform and it's a pretty decent pc vr headset.
Best you're gonna get for 400$. The rift S should unironically retail for 200-300$ tops.

>>279698215
>>279698215
there has been a steam group full of ogs since the thread existed newfag

>>279699205
If you're mostly going to use it tethered, you'd be better off with something else. It's definitely fine if you're planning on using both ways though.

>>279694484
Not with udon.
It's not common knowledge here yet that udon actually runs in it's own virtual machine and compiles to assembly language. You can write your own compilers to write udon code in any script you like, you don't need to use their visual graph system. There's already a python interpreter, for example.
If you're not lazy and don't run every script you write on Update(), it's basically instantaneous and you can have many subroutines all running in a threaded manner on every game object.
I've tested udon maps that spawn thousands and thousands of gameobjects without dropping frames.
VRChat is on the brink of potentially becoming a giant monster of an indy games platform if people start using it. Udon is, without any sarcasm, pretty fucking crazy.

Framerate in vrchat is dependent on 3 things, and none of them are due to the game's "unoptimized" code.
1) avatars being shit
2) number of people in a room you're processing player audio/dynamicbones/skinned meshes for
3) the map, and mostly just realtime player shadows from a directional light. and a lack of occlusion culling and bad realtime audio import settings in unity. If you get rid of those things, half to all of the performance issues are gone.

>>279700161
Latency still too high and tick rate too low to have multiplayer FPS.

>>279700161
when is it coming out and can it be used for avatars or worlds only?

>>279700676
What else is there?

>>279700161
Release the update Tupper

It's because I contacted the IRC mods when the jannies blatantly deleted Viva project discussion yet the entire thread was still tranny drama.

>>279700676
>>279700957
>>279700375
Latency is like 25ms or less to the server in some cases, depends where you live and which node you're hosted on, the vm runs threaded and player sync runs threaded if you script it correctly, and you can even have map and player save states. I know a bunch of people working on those, and they work great. You can literally have a map and inventory system that knows who your players are and tracks them when they come back after a break or crash.

It's maps only for now but they are in discussion for allowing some things for avatars too, but they need to get the core features out.
They're basically all there, we're only missing like one or two things related to vrchat specific player information and station controllers for things like player driven spaceships, but you can already make things like working mech suits and flying.
https://twitter.com/Centauri2442/status/1222036555973505029
here's an example of a literal exosuit that equips itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSS2GJMLAJg

>>279700161
How feature complete are the compilers? Did they add the missing features like player teleportation into the udon API yet?

>>279701452
I still think the tick rate is very low. Hit detection and shots through walls would make Pavlov look good.

>>279699163
lol thats not me retard.

>>279701997
Tick rate is whatever you need it to be. It's a map setting, just make sure you don't have too much running directly on update() and you're good.

>>279702481
Is this actually enough to handle it? Pavlov needs a powerful server CPU to run well. While it's undoubtedly coded like shit, can the VRC servers, which are split between so many instances, actually handle the role as an FPS server?

>>279703025
allow outside server hosting from whitelisted providers?

>>279703025
yes, because everything is ran in it's own little bubble, and udon is it's own vm.
a lot of player communication is somewhat peered in vrchat, (user audio for example). You actually upload to other users in a multicast kind of way, I sometimes push like 8mbit up plus in the beta in maps with 40+ users who are inside the new networked IK beta and audio falloff bubble.
Vrchat even with it's animations triggers and actions system is low latency enough to handle something like a beat saber clone that other users can watch in the same room up to a certain point, but udon does that even better. With a map tick rate around 17ms (which is what overwatch uses) with udon you could build a "favor the shooter" system on par with pavlov, easy. VRChat doesn't use PUN anymore, they outgrew it.

>>279705163
How about letting people turn off network IK on maps that aren't for quest users so it isn't so shit anymore instead of forcing network IK on everyone

>>279705163
>I sometimes push like 8mbit up plus
so basically 90% of americans won't have a good experience

>>279705163
>8mbit up
wew, my upload speed is about 0.3 mbps so no wonder I just outright disconnect in crowded instances.

>>279705667
>>279705523
that's kinda what happens in the new system.
Full body fidelity is fucking amazing when you're up close to users in the new beta, and tapers off when you're far away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4oJ7jjIRc0
this was 2 months ago and it's even better now.
This is a solved problem, it's just not live yet.
>>279705604
Only in the beta, there's probably because a lot of debug info flying in and out that is all culled for live along with sending to vrc servers instead of individual users more directly, but that's a educated guess.
If your experience is ok in live now it'll probably be even better once the update drops. There's distance culling for network traffic sources and IK for people who are far away from you or occlusion culled.

>>279703025
>Pavlov needs a powerful server CPU to run well
I thought the regular lobbies were peer-to-peer.

>>279706609
Cloud servers.

>>279706307
>Full body fidelity is fucking amazing when you're up close to users in the new beta, and tapers off when you're far away.

Okay, they got the fidelity fixed, but is there still ~1s of delay? Because no matter how good the fidelity is, if the latency is still shit, we'll still be effectively interacting in a turn based manner.

>>279686660
thanks doc

>>279686432
this is the real shit
does /vrg/ moto club ever fuck around with it?

Lhun is the rando who is shilling VRChat as perfect by the way. He’s unironically a nobody who desperately wants to be somebody. Lavender has way more potential.

>>279706828
Turn based VR sex...

>>279707746
Udon is actually amazing and its literally an assembly language

>>279707778
im gonna...
>buzz lovense
>coom
>leave world

>>279706828
it's totally fine now, there's judder correction both ways. What others see will happen in the order it was executed and vice versa in a rolling, buffered way. It's neat to see happening. The only time it gets crazy is in extremely rare situations of 60+ users in a single instance who are all standing in the same voice falloff vicinity, which basically never happens.
I'm actually not sure how vrchat does it so fucking well to be honest, voice chat in there rivals any other video/voip software I've ever used even with 10-20 people talking in a circle and fucking discord, a fucking text application DESIGNED FOR THIS PURPOSE ALONE can't have a clear conversation with a single fucking person without fading out, buffering, stuttering or dropped calls, yet a fully 3d application with embodied 3d avatars that runs in VR can have generally crystal clear directional HRTF audio from 20 users at once that has raycasting and echo based on the map. It's insane.

>>279707746
>Lavender has way more potential.
kek, I forgot how funny that literal scam was.

>literally can't hit 144fps in the home world on a 2080ti

>>279708124
You're still not answering my question about latency. Currently, on live, if I raise my hand, it takes anywhere between 500ms - 1000ms for other people to see me raise my hand.

Perform the same test under the new system. If it's anywhere over 200ms between two people in the US(who will have <80ms ping to the server), then it's still unacceptable.

>>279707746
Ok, June.

>>279707746
When you start charging for the game, people need more than just "potential."

>>279707746
>>279707956
I haven't seen him here in a long time, maybe it is, but I doubt it.
deadass: vrchat proved everyone wrong though, I have to admit it. No other vr social app does things as well as they do at this point, yeh some things could be better but there's no real alternative besides neos, which requires autism and a phd to do anything decent in.

>>279708908
Lhun is a shill he's right that it's probably Lhun but others are definitely aware of how good these are.

>>279706981
Haven't actually tried it yet, it supposedly needed a lot more work last time I looked into it. I'll have to test it out and run it on the server soon though since it looks good enough now.
We have done this C1 track that's still kinda nice though.
https://assettocorsa.club/mods/tracks/shuto-expressway-c1.html
https://streamable.com/bdz3h

>>279708969
Who cares who it is, the only question that matters is whether the content is true and not deceptive (i.e., leaving important information out). And at least some of the claims I have been able to verify myself, too, like the beta IK being much better.

>>279708543
I've never seen it that bad, but I'm dead certain with two users it's much better on the beta, because that was a major focus there - redoing the audio system has been priority #1, with Network IK being #2 in all the closed beta testing too.
Make sure you're broadcasting audio too to see how in sync your movement is with your audio.

>>279709137
I just said that it doesn't matter who says what, unless they're being a hypocrite. His info and enthusiasm for Udon is on point. VRC has enough gmod tier autists to make game.

>>279709209
Sorry, I misinterpreted the post then.

>>279700161
>none of them are due to the game's "unoptimized" code
explain to me then how fps still drops to shit with a bunch of players who have all 1 material avatars. It was already tested and the biggest culprit for bad fps is the shitty IK and that was known for almost 1 and a half years

>>279701452
The latency for the whole of Europe is over 200ms. There's no European servers.

>>279709112
what the fucks happening in this wrbm

>>279709295
im pretty hungover the 2nd half of the post was a huge brain fart so i typed out words and didnt think onthem for anyways
>>279709313
skinned mesh rendering is expensive

>>279709548
>skinned mesh rendering is expensive
Can you have a non-skinned mesh or whatever its' called have bones and move properly? I know it's for shapekeys but I don't know what else.

>>279709952
a skinned mesh renderer is a mesh with bones basically

>>279709410
Guessing people who realized they need to change lane way too late.

>>279709548
Depends on how much skin

>>279709313
Too many realtime skinned renderers and shadows.
Imagine if every single npc in a game was as detailed as the main character, with realtime shadow, transparency and specular lighting, interacting with high quality realtime lightmaps, fully voice acted and full body motion captured.
Now it's also an mmorpg with 80 player instances running at effectively 4k 144hz and all the zones use insanely unoptimized texture import and audio rendering platforms with no occulison so you have to render everything in the zone all at once even though you can't see it.
That's why.
Honestly though having 32gb ram and 11gb vram helps a lot.

>>279710171
tl;dr it's mostly the map settings and 40+ users rendering all at once.
The game barely uses 60% of my gpu on a supersampled index at 144hz in a good map with 5 friends.
No realtime lights, no realtime reflection probe, no render textures, with good occlusion culling, audio import settings correctly set for the audio type, texture import settings optimized and crunched and baked and 20+ users with medium and above rated avatars is not a problem at all, you'll keep your frames.

>>279710171
>with realtime shadow
You mean baked
>high quality realtime lightmaps
You mean a single reflection probe
>fully voice acted and full body motion captured
Don't know about the voice codec but the IK is what we've been complaining about.
>80 player instances
You mean 30 player instances. We only got 80 (or was it 90?) in pic related.
>insanely unoptimized texture import
Unity is pretty good at that and crunch compression helps. Not sure about their audio though I'm pretty sure no one uses .flac for their avatar sounds.
>no occulison
There is occlusion culling.

>>279695827
>The environments of some of the climbing maps were a lot better though, and I wish Climbey let you mod in more stuff like that.
You got me, you're right. Now that I think about it, for how active Climbey's dev was and probably still is, he kind of dropped the ball on his game, could have been Pavlov of climbing but it's filled with boring abstract maps.

>>279711046
your models use realtime shadows idiot

>>279711046
My shader is blocked in this image and ironically the default unity one that has replaced it is less optimized.

>>279711046
If you're wondering if a map is optimized press rightshift+backtick+1 through 6
The console and graphs will tell you what is lagging you.
The madcat is ok but it doesn't do everything right.
Very few maps do.

Also all audio formats are converted when you compile a map by default.
All audio is converted to OGg on pc and the default import settings are often garbage.
Background music or ambience should always be set to streaming, for example. The performance impact of this is not insignificant.
If the reflection probe is active in the scene it's doing rendering things for literally every player in the map all the time: it needs to be disabled and literally inside the lightmapper settings statically to not be a source of latency.

>>279711791
>backtick
what
Also I thought unity always renders one reflection probe so the first one you put in is essentially free.

>>279711957
Same key as tilde, beside your 1 key.

>>279712227
2?

>>279711791
All at the same time?

>>279711957
Nope, you can bake all the reflection and light probes for your lightmap, then disable literally all of them, and pick one in a centralish area to use in the lightmapper for avatars with metallic reflection or whatever, then it's practically free.
An active, enabled reflection probe is recalculating all the time.

>>279712752
you mean a baked reflection probe?

>>279712579
Each number is a different graph.
Control + N

Toggles visibility of player nametags

Control + H

Toggles visibility of the HUD (microphone and notification icons)

Control + \

Local switch to default robot avatar (good for when unable to access menu or see out of avatar)

RShift + Backtick + 1 †

Toggles visibility of trigger debug menu

RShift + Backtick + 2 †

Toggles visibility of information debug menu

RShift + Backtick + 3 †

Toggles visibility of console debug menu

RShift + Backtick + 4 †

Toggles visibility of networking debug menu

RShift + Backtick + 5 †

Toggles visibility of networking graph debug menu

Turning off nametags also helps for whatever reason too.

>>279712992
Even if you baked it's cubemaps, and it's set to baked, if the reflection probe game objects are -active- in the scene, it's potentially costing you frames in various ways if you missed something, like for example switching between them on mesh renderers when a player enters its render bubble/cube or how it interacts with realtime shadows if you have a few of them in places. If you have one player inside one probe and you're in another, you're potentially now loading into vram two dxr hdr reflection probe cubemaps just so their metal ass is accurately shiny.
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-ReflectionProbe.html
No reason not to just be safe and disable them after baking entirely and specify one in the lightmap for dynamic object reflections (pickups and players etc)

>>279714018
id need a tutorial i just baked probes and went alongside my day

>>279714093
Put all your reflection probes under an empty game object and disable the empty before you upload after baking.
In the light mapper tab, specify reflections as custom and pick one of your baked reflection cubemaps after baking. It's gonna usually pick one for you after a full bake.

>>279714404
ah so baking isnt a real bake what? this is such a hackey thing.

>>279714451
It's just that baking everything isn't a magical fix either, you still have to contend with dynamic game objects, (anything not set to static, including players), lightprobes and whatever that interact with like 30 entirely different shaders from 20 users because people use whatever they want, and post processing which will interact with various gameobjects in unpredictable ways.
Unity is a game engine after all and vrchat gives a lot of freedom for hobbyists to fuck it all up and make unoptimized scenes by kitbashing shit together, and couple that with a couple hundred 4k textured skinned mesh renderers and it can be hard to keep your frames.
Vrchat could require you to do or flip all those settings for you on upload, but there are situations where you might want a realtime light for example.

Tl;dr optimization is hard af

AWP should have a straight pull bolt in Pavlov to be less useless.

>>279715382
I'd prefer the bolt to be more lenient and not flip back up so easily.

>>279715323
i assumed baked reflection probes do exactly what you said.
>>279715605
i miss awp im still based as fuck aiming that long BOYYY but i cant use the .50 cal

>>279715382
how is it useless, you can't make a L motion with your hand?

>>279715382
AWP is fine how it is but the .50 should be replaced with the cheap kar98.

Should I get the 64gb or 128gb quest?

>>279715746
For the distances you encounter in the game, you're pretty much outperformed by every other gun in that price-tag. I dunno, prices are fucked, there should be a 2x zoom scope AWP comes with.
>>279715746
this basically
>>279715605

>>279715961
Do you plan to store crap on it? If you see yourself using 128gb of data, then go for it, I don't think it's necessary, there's not a lot of games you'd like to keep anyway.

>>279716162
But aren't gaymes these days bloated to shit? I thought 64gb could easily be used up with 10 or so games and all the free stuff. Perhaps even less due to it being vr or some other shit excuse for shit optimization. Or is that wrong?

>>279716319
the quest is mobile phone hardware
so the games for the quest and it's walled garden are mobile phone optimized

>>279716319
I'm not sure if any game I've tried was larger than 6gb.
Maybe when Pavlov gets workshop support. You know, it depends on you. I could never have more than a couple of games installed.
Are you sure about Quest? I like it, but PCVR is superior. Even OG Vive gives a much clearer picture, and detail of Quest Pavlov vs PC Pavlov is like night and day.

>>279716039
keep an smg on you

>>279715717
Wellyesbutactuallyno.jpg

Baked better than realtime but active probe object makes reflections inside the probe's "zone" more accurate to baked local scene, and reflective stuff determining which probe in the scene the reflections should be coming from, then and rendered to you in realtime.
Now do that for every dynamic object in the scene that uses a material that looks at reflections in some way.
Disabling them means all dynamic reflections just use the one specified in the lightmapper.
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/RefProbePerformance.html
Setting the reference camera you specified in the vrchat scene description render distance as low as you can based on your map geometry helps too, as well as reducing audio falloff distance. Lots of little things can really improve your perception of vrchat's perfomance.

>>279716737
hmmmmmmm you might be right

>>279657934
Invest in some vr sippy tech.

emergency page 10 reposts from yesterday

https://streamable.com/v74q8
https://streamable.com/936ua

>>279700161
Any word on when this shit is going to finally fucking drop?

>>279715961
Go for the 64gb. Most games are only around like 2-4gb or so, so unless you're playing a trillion quest games there is no reason to spring for the 128gb version.

>>279720559
never

>>279718641
I still want to see someone print this.

Don't forget the Nechronica event is coming up tomorrow! Body horror, cyber, mutations, and zombie girls!

>>279722453
i don't have time to do anything, i'm sorry anon

>>279722453
assuming it goes for 2 weeks like costume events of last 2 years i'll have one by the second weekend

>>279722236
The arms that hold the Monster cans wouldn't work, there's nothing for them to hold on to. The cans would just slip out.

No Assetto racing event today?

>>279722453
This just feels like some anon forced his fetish into an event. I don't really understand what it's supposed to be.

>>279723020
It's some anon forcing his fetish into an event.

>>279722710
>This just feels like some anon forced his fetish into an event. I don't really understand what it's supposed to be.

>>279723020
Remember when we did maid day
Remember when we did monster girl day

>>279718641
Is the penis with a tube in it's urethra really necessary to the structural integrity?

>>279723478
DURRR MY NAMES YURU MAIDS ARENT A FEEEETIIIISSHHH

>>279723457
Okay being warm and toasty in a car while it's raining outside is erotic as fuck. IDGAF what other people think.

>>279723520
yes, it provides a lower center of gravity when attached to the frunk of the index, keeps you from getting neck strain

>>279723520
Of course, in fact it may even be the most necessary part.

>>279722710
Probably should've mentioned earlier, but I'm out of town and can't host. The server is still up running Akina if anyone wants to hop on, but I don't have my ssh keys or the files to generate a new config.
Here's the track mod:
https://mega.nz/#!9w0BTSKL!PhFemIqtGh7pHB8DHlgFcYluTCJiiiBLb60pWbRRUQQ

>>279723020
Completely. You got me.
I made this event to get folk to either augment themselves with cybernetics or become a boss from Resident Evil. I specifically avoided saying mutations because I knew folk would just make their avatar breasts huge and call it a day. I wanted to avoid that.

>>279723825
This car fucks. Have fun on your trip. Hopefully you'll be back for next week.

>>279723572
this but unironically

>>279724143
kys

>>279723982
Will do. I'll definitely be back for next week.
Also, server details are here if anyone is still planning on hopping on.
Server: vrg racing
Pass: tfwnodriftfu
>>279723457
>>279723589
pic related

When's the event to just be yourself?

>>279723020
Why a thursday though? robo zombie mutant anime girls is a fun concept that gives a bunch of creative freedom so that's cool but wouldn't it be better on the weekend?

>>279723478
>missing out the most obvious one

>>279724169
hatred is bad for the mind and the soul

>>279726315
its good for killing trannies

>>279726179
that was a joke event

So, if I wanted FBT with my rift s the only way to get a decent experience would be a hybrid solution? If I do that, what I would need to buy? And having that stuff would allow me to then upgrade to the index or index 2 some day for less than full price? Since I already would have some of the required hardware.

>>279726753
DURR ITS IRONIC

>>279726753
I thought the blacked event was the joke one

https://streamable.com/nedb2
If anybody would like to talk walking dead, the combat past day 20 ends up transforming from "oh I'll just find a bottle" to "fuck" in a snap.

I just punched the wall playing gorn, ama

>>279723520
it needs to be longer so that the head can be sucked on directly

>>279727259
what are you wearing

>>279724420
is there an updated modpack?

>>279727074
I just bought it and started playing
No spoilers pls, but I noticed it says supplies are decreasing and zombie activity has increased the first few nights I slept, is that the same every night or does it change based on your actions?

>>279727259
muscle shirt and sweatpants, this question doesn't seem related to my situation

>>279727259
Would you suck a dick for $20

>>279727259
wanna kill my vrfu

>>279727529
No
>>279727376
obviously this >>279727513 was meant for you

>>279727438
The zombies get into "classes", like spitting zombies that spit on you when you melee them, or armored ones with helmets. The combat gets rough and you need to be prepared for missions. I just spent the first 14 days grinding and unlocking 10 on each bench.

>>279727259
What about $40

>>279727074
the gunplay seems a bit janky

>>279727629
that sounds troublesome to do so no
>>279728068
Also no

>>279728238
kill me?

>>279727403
Only mod should be the track from >>279723825.

>>279727074
jesus christ nigger290 fuck off you're so cool you get discord calls wooow what a cool kid!! omg!!!!

>>279728425
nigger290 is a filthy angry nigger look how stupid he is cant wield a fucking axe properly and he moves so slow because hes a fat bastard

>>279728443
>>279728569
ok wh*te incel sissies

>>279728425
Nothing wrong with being a coomer

>>279728678
shutup actual nigger

all of those but ironically

>>279728701
i wonder what his armpit tastes like

>>279728678
>>279728701
being black should be against UN policy and 4chan rules

i get jelly but why does cleetus hate dal now too?

ill print it if some one posts the file

>>279728992
Ment for
>>279722236

>>279728794
mmm filthy fat angry nigger pits <3

>>279727074
>attempt to shoot through top
Why not from under the chin or is the helmet defense box covering that?

>>279728992
OOOMMGGG THRRREEE DEEE PRRRRINNNTTTINNGG

What exactly happens at these avatar events? Do you world hop together or what

>>279730330
literally absolutely nothing. it's the same shit and people may or may not comment on your avatar. the meetup might take place in a themed map if it exists and there might be a group photo

>>279730330
People make avatar edits and usually hop through some worlds that match the theme. There's usually a group photo for anyone who has an avatar for the event too.

>>279730330
circlejerking

>>279730768
I wish I was able to handle big groups, this event and the more crazy ones sound fun.

>>279731295
theyre not its full of drama trannies

>>279730330
iin the past there has been world hopping or special events
there was a halloween costume event, a secret santa for christmas, cyberpunk march last year had a bunch of movies played and it was just a full month of people being cybery and hangouts in cyberpunk maps

>>279730330
People look at you for 3 seconds point out that something on your avatar sucks, and go back to taking shots and talking about unity and blender while looking in the mirror

>>279731932
Yeah I can barely contain my awkwardness with a small group but I do like 3D and the like, maybe someday when I become more familiar with people..

>>279730768
>There's usually a group photo for anyone who has an avatar for the event too.
It's baffling seeing peoples normal avatars in shots that get posted though, like not even any effort put in

Is there a new easier way to port koikatsu models now or is it the same hour long process as before?

>>279732430
Theres no need to exclude people just because they dont match the theme.

>>279733802
But that's the point of a theme though? If there's going to be people complaining about exclusion from a themed event group photo because they didn't even match the theme then at least have two rounds taken, one with the people who put effort in and then one with everyone who was present

>>279732302
we've had many people be mute and not talk at all for years
actually we still have a few people who don't talk and have never talked
it's completely ok to stand in the corner and stand around and just vibe, no microphone and just using gestures to communicate

>>279732657
AFAIK the guide in the pastebin is all there is still.

Should I buy my games from steam or from the oculus store? I'm afraid that if I move some day to the index or some other non oculust headset that I lose access to all my games. For example, beat saber, does it have a oculus mode like pic related in the launcher?

>>279734506
>no microphone and just using gestures to communicate
Works best if you're quite energetic and move around a lot. In publics I clam up and go mute, barely gesturing either. Around you niggers it's the opposite. As you get to know people it becomes easier.

>>279735161
Steam for everything but exclusives.

>>279735161
Full steam ahead, don't negotiate with terrorists

I played Elite Dangerous finally. The VR mode is pretty nice. It's mostly just the desktop menus displayed in 3d space, but that's better than some games can manage (cough asseto corsa). The VR cockpit is fully modeled though and some menus only activate when you look at a part of the cockpit, which is a nice touch. The bulk of the game looks pretty grindy and not my thing, but it might be comfy to do some space trucking here and there.

>>279734728
Shit that's dissapointing. I wanted to port my character instead of using public models but I guess it isn't the time. Hopefully there's work being done on it so it'll be easier.

>>279735161
beat saber doesn't have an oculus mode on steam, but it runs fine through steamvr, and you can use https://gitlab.com/znixian/OpenOVR/blob/master/README.md to bypass steamvr if you want. I'd generally by games on steam for more flexibility between headsets, except for the few exclusives of course.

>>279735902
>a nice touch
That's how they always work, aiming with your face is not a nice touch

>>279736230
Oh, I never played it in desktop mode before. It does work pretty well as a VR concept though, I'd like to see it more. It'll be really nice once eye tracking is mainstream and things can pop up just by glancing at them.

Beatsaber multiplayer mod is still working after the updates. So we are still on for tomorrow's beatsaber lobby at 8 CST. I'll post a reminder closer to the time.

You will need to reinstall all mods through mod assistant in the op. As well as find the latest release of MP mod here:
https://github.com/Zingabopp/BeatSaberMultiplayer/releases

Are you down with the sickness?

>>279736005
Let your autism guide you. The process isn't that hard, and it's good practice for ninja ripper and blender and texture editing in general.

>>279737663
maybe if the nigger could explain things properly

>>279737791
What are you stuck on? the other text guide is fine https://pastebin.com/CVKdCuFJ

>>279738057
>can figure out how to export koikatsu but you can't
>he's the dumb nigger

>>279738227
i can 3d model things myself from scratch dumb nigger can you even open blender

>>279737663
Just like, learn some texture work, dis nig right
>>279738296
You got your faggots mixed up.

>>279738296
blender is used in the koikatsu export process

>>279738369
>>279738387
congrats thats unity not blender but niggers cant read

>>279727074
>>279728208
Believe it or not the gunplay was due to the durability of the weapon. This was the prior fight to that video, the gun got damaged and misfired repeatedly.
>>279729331
I thought it would be easier, but the helmets are a bitch and hitbox cover the whole head. I'll try that next time around.

Footage b4 punchy fight.
https://streamable.com/aemu4

>>279738889
dont respond to me stupid fucking nigger

>>279737032
>>279737032
based corona poster.
A few anons have this one already.

>>279738994
thats a stupid shitty headswap

>>279739117
It's actually not a headswap at all, it uses most of the meshes from the original 2a7s kit with some texture, batwings, and the virus balls.
It's been in there since saturday.

>>279739305
OOOHHH NOOO ITS A FRANKENSTEIN NOOO ITS WORK!!!!

>>279739305
It's not work.
Gentle reminder that if you can't crank out something current based on artwork using a purpose built model like that in an hour or less you should buckle down because it's not that hard. Being current meme takes speed!
Where's yours, anon?

>>279739305
It's not work, it's rapid fire shitposting. I even made a blendshape or four.
Gentle reminder that if you can't crank out something current based on artwork using a purpose built model like that in an hour or less you should buckle down because it's not that hard. Being current meme takes speed and dedication!
Where's yours, anon?

>>279739708
its not good at all stop acting like you're amazing for making a turd shaped model

>>279739887
GONNA COOF

>>279739887
So do better, that would be awesome! It wasnt a difficult model because 2a7 already had a bao and Chong Sam.

>>279740230
you didnt model shit you texture edited a shitty model

>>279740442
you can see those in viva project

>>279740260
I manually modeled the virus balls to add to the bao, the wings I had modeled a while back, and the bottle of corona, and then made a blend shape for it, but that took like 15-20 minutes. Everything else was just merging the meshes I wanted from the base model blend kit and a lazy texture edit, and a little mesh optimization, yep.
I don't really have the free time to full scratch for entertainment.
Lemmie see yours! I bet since you had so much time to work on it since sat it's awesome.

>>279740670
HAHAHAHA YOU MEAN THOSE FUCKING CIRCLES WITH WEIRD PEGS? OMG

>>279740442
Look at Koikatsu anon's card, so slim, an easily downloaded png, edited and sent to others in a flash...

>>279738994
cute you did a good job anon

>>279740730
I bet yours are so much better, what's the holdup? Show it off, it's been four days!

You just know.

>>279740886
holy shit HAHAHAHAHA

>>279740880
Could be better, only took an hour but it got the reaction I was looking for, lol

>>279741062
wow tell me more expert modeller of weird fucking spheres

board tourist here. i wanna vr which one do i buy?

>>279741149
Y'all know he can build finished models from nothing but art and is completely unbaitable, stop making a fool of yourself, you look pretty dumb to the oldfags lurking.

>>279741778
>nothing
>literally a stolen edit

I think you've probably got to be pretty shitty to trash anybody for any level of 3D modeling. Considering it's something we've all picked up at a reasonably recent moment and everyone is amateurs here, you should be encouraging people to learn more. You shouldn't be shitting on them because you think you're better at it than them or whatever.

Poor showing anon, I am disappointed in you. It discourages people from making neat posts in the thread as well as discourages them from modelling itself.

>>279741821
>has literally done it on stream
>has a channel with nearly a million views.
Cope harder. Fuck I don't even know him outside of the shitposters but 5 minutes of looking around proves you're a fucking idoit

>when you didn't make the tutorial good enough

>>279742180
It's jelly shitposting dal and anyone else that entered the fray. You should know this by now. He's the only one who defends his trashy models.

>>279742180
okay jelly

>>279741723
Probably a Rift S if you've got a decent PC.

>>279742267
seethe harder it looks like dogshit

So what are you expected to do on Valentine's day if you match with someone at the event? Do you ERP? I don't understand the social protocol.

>>279743046
>if you match with someone at the event
There are no "matches". If they're doing the same thing as last year, you just talk to everyone in your group for a few minutes each. It's a nice way to get to know people you might not have met yet.

>>279726841
You would need to buy 3 base stations, 3 trackers, and optionally, although very highly recommended, track straps.

All in all this will cost you around the ballpark of anywhere from $500-$700. If you decided to upgrade to the Index some day, you would already have the base stations. So you'd be paying $750 for the Index + controllers instead of the $1,000 for Index + controllers + base stations.

Hybrid setup is kinda shit to be honest, it works but the tracking won't be as good as if you were on a steamVR headset.

>>279741723
Index if you have the cash, quest or rift s if you want something affordable.
The samsung odyssey plus is 250$ right now and about as good as the rift s

>>279743445
>about as good as the rift s
I wouldn't go that far, but it is really good for the money.

>>279743426
Sorry, correction - 2 base stations, not 3, the price I laid out is still correct though.

>>279741723
Index if you want the very best of the best in terms of consumer headsets and if you like sending the headset and/or controllers back in for repair every 3 months. Otherwise get a Rift S, or if you want something that can be wireless and portable get a Quest. You can turn your Quest basically into a Rift S with the link cable now although Rift S is technically still slightly better in most areas. People also recommend Odyssey+ but I've never had a WMR so I can't comment. I've heard good things about it though.

>>279743363
wtf gay i want to get vrlaid

>>279740442
he made a swimsuit. it took the whole effort of ctrl c and ctrl p the body verts. and he made a incredible lamp that took as much effort as the awe inspiring blender donut.

these were textured with the backbreaking endeavor of dragging the smart material from the window in substance painter to the relevant mesh.

you just wish you could model like him and get featured and work on incredible projects such as project viva

>>279743964
>ctrl p

>>279738930
Okay

>>279743964
Don't forget the clown shoes he made or "mary janes" as he tried to call them. :)

>>279738889
>bang bang bang
Does that shit not attract the walkers/zombies? After playing dying light on nightmare difficulty, I'm get wary about using guns in zombie games. Fuckers come from everywhere the moment any kind of loud noise happens.

>>279744269
thanks dal

>>279743964
kek

>>279743964
i dont think you understand how substance partner works. if you're just dragging and dropping smart materials you're doing everything wrong.

>>279744907
I don't think you understand how little work went into those textures. He did everything wrong.

>>279745373
looks fine to me in the videos and looks rather good even, i dont get it

>>279744352
The more fighting you do with guns the more you attract, it spawns them around corners so they don't just come charging in. On about day 30ish now so they are showing up in larger numbers.

>>279745412
Play the game and shove your face into it then

>>279745472
you're not supposed to shove your face into lanterns what are you doing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVXHw-4NI1A&t=2s

>>279745534
Then don't comment on how good they look

>>279745623
looks fine to me.

>>279745412
>>279745534
him trying to pass off his amateur fucking about in 3d programs as professional work is insulting to those with actual talent. no amount of samefagging will change that

>>279745916
why are you insulted? its just a fucking lantern bro

>>279745986
It's not that anyone is insulted, just that the amount of effort in textures is not worth praising.

>>279746090
looks to me as if theres normal map stuff going on alongside rust damage. thats far more effort than a solid color. i think it looks old timey. seems pretty on point as far as i can tell, so whats your issue with it anyway besides you dont like who made it

>279746218
Don't attempt to pass off art as your own

>>279746337
i just googled rusty lantern for comparisons sake. i never said i made anything.

Did anybody here go TheWaveXR concert today? The convert fucked up and she just t-posed for like 30 minutes

>279746403
Then post the asset

>>279746406
*concert fucked up

the anon posting walking dead clips has got me interested, anybody else pick it up yet? how is it?
>>279746337
autist

>>279735902
>space trucking
the grind is where you find it. if you choose to do grindy things, the game will be nothing but a grind. try exploring.
>>279736230
if you don't like it, you can pop them with the controller.

>>279746218
looks like the stock smart material from substance painter like anons said

>>279746643
i mean i think it looks pretty on model these things look pretty close to the viva project one

>>279746597
I really like it. It's not as good as Boneworks imo but it's well worth the $40. The biggest problem I have is with how dark it is and the fact the flashlight you have isn't mounted to you head, it's mounted to your body

>>279746681
At least use two smart materials

>>279746643
You literally just got baited so hard that lantern literally has a watermark you actually can't even tell the difference.

>>279746756
thats not the same lantern. you couldnt even tell the difference

>279746851
Post the asset

>>279746406
Was it any good? I went to a few before, wasn't that impressed.

>>279746938
No, even the parts that did work were not that impressive. She's not a good singer and the show itself seemed pretty boring

>>279746918
here you go there seems to be a serious lack of smart material use.... almost as if there's more to substance painter than spamming smart materials it's smart to use smart materials as a base for certain things but even then you always tweak it.

>279747034
That's all I wanted to see of the person so adamant to defend it

>its unironically him defending himself and viva project vomit again while shitting on other posters
Who could have seen this plot twist coming!

>>279747160
defend what?

>it's an unironic t.jelly episode again

>>279747160
>>279747190
I find it funny how you guys can't tell the difference between other lanterns and his own lantern.

>>279747295
one literally had a watermark and they still couldnt tell the difference

>>279747295
We're done here

>>279747015
Oh well. I appreciate that they at least have live shows and stuff on a regular schedule. I wonder what the scene is like for live shows in vrchat.

>>279747406
Yeah, we are, you just proved yourself to be retarded. And seething.

>>279747441
The shows where it's just "guy playing/mixing his own music" are pretty good.

>>279747295
Dont really care about that. The biggest issue I have is the fact that the art style on the lantern does not match the character art style. Isnt that screenshot from viva project? Considering that, why the fuck are the styles not consistent? It's the same issue with vrchat with anime girls then semi realistic avatars next to each other making things rather jarring. Vrchat has an excuse at least.

>>279747618
It matches just fine in game, there's different shader work. Anime has rust, too. It's almost as if you're seething at air now.

>>279747907
There are none. Go away.

>>279747694
>matches just fine in game
Ha.. ha.. yeah, no.
>>279747907
Is there even anything scheduled for Tuesday? There used to be pavlov on Tuesday but the turnout has been slowly dwindling so it's now only 2 days a week.

http://poal.me/wrt99r
Oh yeah don't forget to vote for the FRIDAY NIGHT VR GAMIN

>>279747907
Wanna play mahjong? A quick south round, no serious scoring? 1/4 already

>>279747907
There will be EU pavlov tomorrow and NA pavlov on friday.
There are some creed players around these parts but they may be hard to find in the thread. Unironically if you ask in the discord you'll probably find some people who want to play with you.

>>279747907
>>279748027
>>279748029
It matches just fine in game. You merely have a petty grudge. Stop sniffing your trannies farts in discord voice.

>>279747618
default substance materials only come in realistic pbr :^)

>>279748231
The entire game is PBR materials. Are you blind?

>>279747034
Do you got a professional license for substance painter? Be a shame if someone called out that dev for using illegal software to make their game assets..

>>279748356
Calm down.

>>279748095
>Unironically if you ask in the discord you'll probably find some people who want to play with you.
Well I was asking in the thread with the explicit intention to derail this shit into some good discussion that someone might actually care about.

>>279748914
discord heros....

>>279748914
Play the walking dead, we have all played Pavlov enough that it doesn't spark good discussion. Creed is another subject, I bought it, but never played it, how does it work?

>>279722453
Gib assets

>>279749004
I bought creed on the last sale too, but haven't played it yet. I'm down to play tomorrow night, before beat saber.

okay but mahjong

>>279749004
You've gotta actually swing hard to get the full damage out of your punches. My internet has currently shat the bed so when it recovers we can play a game. Wild arm flailing gets you nowhere and depletes your characters stamina. Low stamina means your characters fists trail behind a bit and move slower so you can't really do any damage. Keeping them still recharges so it's a good opportunity to block and dodge. Sounds a bit weird having a stamina system in a vr game but it really helps pace the fights and forces you to pick your opportunities rather than just flail.
Campaign mode is a good bit of exercise too. Plays very differently to pvp though.

>>279749501
thanks nigger

>>279749548
>>279749350
>>279749094
Go back to jerking off to Blacked porn, you fucking incel

>>279748074
just askin'

>>279749824
Nah I'm good. Mahjong never appealed to begin with and the fervor with which it has been shilled has turned me off completely. Seems pretty cringe every time I see it mentioned.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uDj8GDZe90I
Xiexe has it's own OpenVR overlay but the beta is locked behind a Patreon subscription. Anyone knows how does it compare to OVR Toolkit?

>>279750174
Sounds like you have a small dick and an even smaller mind

I kinda want to learn mahjong because I need the knowledge for a Yakuza subquest but I'm only available at EU wagie hours.

>>279750234
yeah that'll definitely make him want to play mahjong, keep going

>>279750387
mahjong people were mean to me

>>279750349
hosting EU wagie hours would be awesome, but there are only two of you so far, and I'm hesitant to wake up for that.
>>279750387
You'll have to give me some prompts, I already used up the easy ones

>>279750432
I'm sorry to hear that, I'm sure you'll feel better about it if you spam your chinese checkers across the next ten threads

>>279748095
>they may be hard to find in the thread.
they all use the thread just schedule something christ
kill yourself tranny

>>279750349
You work on weekends?

>>279750601
t. mahjong tranny

>>279750349
>because I need the knowledge for a Yakuza subquest
Which one? In 2 you can just grab a piece that lets you win on the first turn.

Can EU just give me a window or something to work off, I can't help anyone if I'm waking up for no reason

>>279750601
Creed is a 1v1 game, those aren't scheduled in the thread and don't need to be. To play Creed you just need to find someone else who wants to play.

>>279750818
We're roughly 5 - 6 hours ahead, then you have to factor in when wagies get home from work which can be all over the place.

>>279751347
figure it out yourselves, will ya? There's only 2 or 3 of you anyway.

>>279751552
>figure it out yourselves, will ya?
Then why did you ask?

>>279752093
That's most likely the local retard interjecting himself in conversations he's not a part of nor has any interest in.

>>279749752
god i wish a strong chocolate warrior would black my vrfu

>>279750654
No

>>279752938
Just stay up extra long or wake up in the middle of the night and you can join

There is nothing wrong with using a public avatar.

>>279753649
B-but the trannies will get mad if they find out!

>>279753649
sure, as long as it's optimised to medium or above

>>279753649
>tfw use public avatar
>but everyone thinks it's custoom and I made it

>>279754267
it takes 5 seconds to check who made an avatar in-game
I'm sure that not "everyone" thinks that.

>>279754479
Yeah I'm sure they'll find out eventually. I need to switch out of this avatar but I'm not really sure to what.

>>279754625
become a slutty loli

>>279754867
why

>>279754984
reasons

>>279755038
I need to know before I can commit anon

>>279755154
To have something nice to look at, is there a better reason?

>>279750818
I'm NA gmt -10 and active around this time for the next 6 hours or so, too bad it would be impossible to find others to play.

>>279755350
I don't know anon, fetish fuel is more than just something nice to look at

https://streamable.com/thvcv

>>279755556
GMT -10 isn't NA
Which island?

>>279756936
It's part of NA
Oahu

>>279757129
America the country but not North America the continent.
Meet me at Shirokiya sometime I'll buy you a squeaky cat toy.

>>279754267
Its mostly just because most of /vrg/ uploads their own mmd's so that's the general go to assumption

>>279757252
only if u beat me in a vrc mahjong match

>>279757515
RIP. I need more training to play mahjong with /vrg/. Also it's my bedtime.

>>279757576
play mahjong soul if u wanna practice, I'm active in /mjg/ if u ever wanna issue a challenge.

>>279757858
is there a VR mode in mahjong soul?

>>279757912
No, it's just mahjong with anime girls

>>279757970
>no
then why are you posting about a non-VR application in the VR thread

>>279758041
Not me and I assume it was to help you out with getting better at mahjong.

Reminder to use protection.

>>279758152
I don't play mahjong because it has nothing to do with VR.

sucks to be a no fun police, too bad mahjong is a game we play in vrc as a pass time