/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #916

>Chilloutvr to save us all
lol okay maebbie quick to the draw on making the thread

The endless cycle of games going to shit due to greedy/sellout devs and new games taking their places goes on. Thank goodness that avatars and worlds and the like are just easily portable unity projects.

>>314392842 (OP)
OP is a baka
Previous thread here: 314282186

>>314393131
>game is completely free for years
>people constantly asking how to support the devs to keep their favorite online social space going
>devs offer a banal harmless subscription that gets you nothing of value and doesn't rob free players of anything

Yes anon, this is the epitome of greed. You should lead us all into being outraged.

>>314393131
>greedy/sellout devs
They can't coast on HTC money forever. Everything you had is still free. Still gonna bully iconfags though.

>>314393237
Fuck I am an idiot too
here: >>314282186 (Cross-thread)

>>314393131
>spend literally 3000 hours in VRC
>here is an optional way to pay
>FUCKING RUINED

You're not going to buy VRChat Plus, are you anon?

>>314393429
Does VAM have less uncanny valley looking models?

>>314393108
i knew i had to come here when i saw vrchat cashing out. I did not make the thread though

>>314393570
I'm more worried about pic related leading to everything being paywalled and ads thrown in your face ruining the spirit of VRChat than anything. VRChat+ is barely anything, though I would have preferred to paying $30 up front once rather than a sub fee, especially given that the game is early access.

>>314393293
>>314393340
>>314393393
Maybe if they actually fixed the game, people wouldn't bitch so much about it

>>314393206 (Cross-thread)
oasis VR's voice was almost totally broken when I tried it a few weeks ago, but it did have a lot more (desktoppers) in it than shillout. And working dynamic bones too fwiw. Shillout was less broken overall than oasis, but I still agree it's not worth trying until they fix their stability issues and add some more interesting maps and portals/avatar pedestals. Unless of course your killer feature is touching booba, in which case you can probably put up with the rest of the jank just for that.

>>314393747
i agree, I prefer one time too. They made their intentions clear with today's announcement. Once everyone is on CVR, i shall seek out the next game to support with the cycle renewed

>>314393808
They fix it constantly, the problem being that they're always fixing the shit that they break trying to do anything new.

Thanks for the data so far, I'll photoshop in those that asked to be included with an update soon. Here's a no namedrop version.

>>314394002
networking is fixed and stable: >>314393391 (Cross-thread)
public avatars next update, pedestals and portals this or the one next week
it is open alpha and the devs actually mean it when they say it, so expect no early access shenanigans, once it is out of alpha/beta

>>314393747
>>314394034

VRchat+ is obviously just a donation option with useless perks that don't matter.

Hopefully whatever real monetization is a profit-splitting mechanism to allow creators to sell things to players.

>>314392067 (Cross-thread)

wait so cvr makes you pay for more than 10 uploads while vrchat has unlimited for free?

>>314393546
>booths but extremely high quality

>>314393747
I think the vrchat plus subscription is pretty harmless, and I hope it works for their cashflow. It's basically the same as a patreon with light in-game perks, which seems to work for other games.

I do think the paywall shit will kill the game depending on how they go about it though. Hopefully it won't be for another few years. As much as I like that booth has injected some good professional models into the ecosystem, I feel like a heavyhanded cash shop and paywalls will dampen creativity overall rather than bolster it.

>>314394291
yes

>>314393808
It's amazing
>Game is busted in several places and generally rough around the corners but could improve
>Instead developers focusing on monetizing the game by adding a subscription fee and working towards adding microtransactions
I'm not necessarily talking about VRChat either. I thought that they would wait until early access was done at least for them to start asking for money.

>>314394291
>>314394284
>>314393393
>>314393340
>>314393293
how much do they pay you to suck their dick?

>>314394429
>>314394518
sounds more important than favorite slots to me.

>>314394482
Their priorities do seem fucked, but maybe the extra cashflow can pay for another dev for them. I wonder how transparent they'll be about how many active subscriptions they get.

>>314394574
So why isn't it unlimited from the start

>>314394149
Remember when they broke animations when they fixed friends list bug? Imagine what would happen if they tried to fix camera controls being hard to use.

>>314394518
Idk, how much do you value your time and how much time have you sunk into VRchat for free?

>>314394574
if you get to the point where you need more than 10 upload slots, paying the 8 dollar fee once is justified i think. You would have spend lots of time by then.

Are more players and the 10 slots the only 2 arguments you guys have against chill out?

>pay 50$ once for ruby
>has alot of nice features
>emm vrc for the rest + melonloader for free

>>314394792
>if you get to the point where you need more than 10 upload slots, paying the 8 dollar fee once is justified i think. You would have spend lots of time by then.

sure, that sounds reasonable, but It still matters a lot more to me then favorite slots.

>>314394792
If you have 5,000+ hours in vrc, an optional $10 isn't all that much

>>314394975
$10 a month. A sub fee adds up, but a one time fee is reasonable enough. I would honestly be happy to shell out $30 as a one time thing, but a sub fee is dumb.

>optional pay for features that I would never use anyway

or

>pay for important feature that I use constantly

>>314395048
shill alert

>>314395048
Why would anyone pay for this subscription except to willingly donate money to keep VRchat going. I don't get it. Who the fuck needs a picture in their name tag and 100 favorited avatars.

>>314395048
It hasn't come out yet, so it's impossible to say, but buying per month/a year is how it usually goes

>>314391906 (Cross-thread)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sfTEBAl8sA&t=1629s

>>314395096
>optional pay for cosmetic benefits
vs
>pay for features the other already has

>>314394518
i guess they pay $9.99 a month

the great shill war of vrg, where do i sign up to shill vrc? Do i get free vrchat plus if i do?

>>314394273
when it becomes fully fleshed out and hopefully more alive I'll try it again
maybe if it can ever get on steam too

>>314395318
exactly what i was saying, vrchat is like a premium for non essential features, cvr is a payment for core features that i would need if i played it regularly. i don't think it's an unreasonable payment, but it doesn't give much incentive to switch over.

>>314261561 (Cross-thread)
>>314261561 (Cross-thread)
REMINDER!
The Creed FRIDAY FITE NITE will be held tomorrow starting a little before 9PM EST. Might even do a round robin style tournament depending on participation level.

It's currently on sale in the humble bundle along with several other excellent VR games that you should pick up.
https://www.humblebundle.com/games/fall-vr
I encourage you to attend as there may even be some extra keys floating around for those looking for a fight.

>>314395458
the only "essential" feature is the unlimited upload slots, everything else is more for free. I rather support a platform that cares about its users

>>314395623
Good luck on the fights. Can't make that timing due to work. Hope you guys have lots of bruises and fun!

>>314395679
you'd rather support the platform paying you

>>314395679
Don't get me wrong, I hate vrchat, but uploading content is 90% of it for me, doesn't matter if it's the "only" paywalled feature

>>314395758
>everyone positive about chillout is paid

>>314395706
RIP anon to wagecuckery
I'll gladly kick your butt any other time though just say when.

>>314395941
>just say when
When are you most tired and vulnerable on a saturday?

what's the CVR SDK like? I'm actually pretty happy wtih SDK 3.0 in vrchat so I'm curious what I'll be losing.

for context I've tried neos and wasn't a fan.

>>314395452
steam is coming with the open beta release next month
>>314395801
they have the cap in, cause many free users would reupload the same shit and it would clog up servers and be just overall costly. Imagine a thousand users all having tons of the same nanachi and wolfboy avatars. It hurts actually creators, though very few have more than 10 self-made original avatars. I would imagine the 8 bucks will be worth their while too as they see the polish coming in.
Just log in every other week, see what new stuff is in and assess based on that.

You can also lurk the live playercount here:
https://status.abinteractive.net/

>>314396593
their sdk will feel very familiar, all unity based. Workflow is upgrading to unity 2019, removing vrc sdk, adding cvr sdk (called cck https://cck.cvr.gg/). Set eye level again, click button to auto add visemes, put animaiton overides in if you have, click upload. Will take 15 minutes, most the time is spent waiting for the upgrade loading bar to finish.

>he starts randomly bringing up his health issues at the meetup again
>everyone awkwardly says nothing

>>314396006
It won't help you one bit. Doesn't matter as long as it's during the day NA time.

>>314397125

Nigger shit game go burn in hell VR is dead.

>>314396913
lol the VRchat visemes.

https://youtu.be/pntKOhYvxM8

I'm seeing there's a system for turning on and off accessories which is nice, is there a stand in for the radial puppet type thing?I use those to control body shape(chest/belly/ass size etc.)

Like I assume I could just plug a blendshape into that menu there instead of one of those hue controls?

>>314395623
I might host a pokerstars VR table after the fights if there's enough interest as well.

>>314397495
i am not an avatar guy so i dont know too much about that stuff. But how its being described as is to have blendshapes you can swap into or like animate into or just change sliders of a material using menus or gestures ingame.
Currently you have a thing called avatar states already that when you click it you can change stuff already
For better answers on this i would recommend to straight up ask in their discord, cause the devs read and reply:
discord.gg/abi

>Sub or get ads
Who else is ready for the Animal House world to come back from worlds.com?

>>314398136
This'll be an economy of memes my dear friend

>freaking out over what's basically an optional patreon donation and an in-game version of Booth
I don't see what the problem is. It looks like nothing changes at all for free users.

>>314398507
>in-game version of Booth

where?

>>314397401
Social apps will always be like this, go play VR games.

>>314398507
its not the fact it exists, its the fact they dont do anything for years and now do some 10 dollar monthly sub shit.
What are you donating to? them doing nothing for another 4 years and changing the ui?

>>314398751
their long time future plan is to basically be what booth is

>>314398860
They recently made avatar 3.0 and UDON

>>314399217
>You need a VRChat+ account to see this avatar

>>314399168
>recently

3 years retard

>>314398860
Where in that post did I say I'd be paying for anything?

>>314399217
lol that was fast. That's fukken great

>>314399168
avatar 3.0 broke everything and is a gimmick, udon is just as limited as what they now call legacy. I thought you would get good scripting, but all we got was some wannabe solution

>>314399427
t. has never ever even made a world

https://forms.gle/zmpSitnWg66KCLN79
Photoshopped some people in.

>>314399469
t. vrchat shill

>>314399829
nah it's just pretty obvious you've never touched one of the good udon worlds

>>314399829
Look. Calling other VRchat content creators shill is not gonna get you any favors

>>314395221
Oh shit dude. I'm going to try this, gonna be very happy if it fixes it seems easy enough. The only thing I notice is that my hip bone is very small, so sizing it up away from the thighs like that video suggests is going to make the bone even tinier, hopefully it won't fuck something up (but I have back up copies incase)

>>314399863
>>314399874
hello, where to apply? i legit need some money

>>314399657
is this based on some inner circle discord that literally everyone but me is in

>>314400274
It looks like a specific anon's friends list

happy international male avatar day

>>314400274
its based on whoever submitted
either dm me if you know who i am, or email a picture and a name to hahaStupidRetards@gmail

bros.... /v/ is making fun of us again....

>>314400753
Rightfully so

WHERE DO I GET SHILLOUT VR

so is there anything that vr chat+ offers that's actually useful? I don't give a shit about some good goyim badge or a shiny icon on my nametag or whatever. I mean more practical stuff. 25 free slots is more than enough since I just upload my own shit anyways

>>314400981
HTTPS://DEVELOPERS.ABINTERACTIVE.NET/GET-CHILLOUTVR

>>314401336
No, I'd be more receptive to it if there was something substantive to it. They're so slow to add features though it makes it feel completely pointless.

>>314401336
You don't even have to pay for all the "new stuff" so it's basically just a donation

>>314400586
where to get tartagila

>>314401336
Nothing.
Just the hope that they get their shit together and the game gets better due to their new source of income.

>>314401785
there's a few public worlds out there for genshin avatars, but there's also public game rip downloads for the model on deviantart.

>>314401850
thanks for the spoonfeed

>>314401754
one month of vrchat plus has been added to your account

>>314321136 (Cross-thread)
thanks anon

>>314321447 (Cross-thread)
ha thanks, yeah that piece of info didnt get past me

>>314399217
comedy gold

>>314402115
??
Am I wrong?

>>314393747
>$5 in VRchatBucks to play The Devouring

>>314401336
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot-in-the-door_technique

Its a good primer for getting people to add their credit card and get used to paying, while slowly encouraging map makers to monetize and paywall their content

Isn't a subscription model a lot better than microtransactions? How on earth else do you want them to monetize a continually developed game?

>>314393293
>project gets poured funding on in the millions
>devs go full vegas with funding instead of hiring competent people to finish their product
>"i am once again asking for you to make it rain"

If I could get a Lenovo Explorer, or an Odyssey Plus for $58 more, which would be better for a first headset?

What feature would actually sell you on vr chat plus? for me it's actual fucking in-game messaging with voice recognition (so you just speak and it types out your message, no hassling with vr keyboard)

Like anyone on my friend list I can send a PM to before asking to join their world or before I send them an invite or some shit. It'd be so helpful to have in-game communication when not next to the person. Yes trannycord exists but I refuse to add literally every single person I talk with to it just to have a PM machine in the background.

>>314403272
Good thing all the competent people they didn't hire went ahead to make their own successful VR games.

>>314403276
and this is why I'm stuck with used wmr off of eBay

>>314403289
odyssey plus, but both are pretty shit compared to the quest 2 when it comes to inside-out tracking

>>314403391
>put all the weight on ayylien man
>nearly every update is a fiasco because features over functionality
love child projects are cursed

>>314403289
I have an Odyssey+ and it's pretty good for a first headset. The controllers' tracking is meh but that usually only matters in VRChat, in other games I've played it's fine. They tend to slip out of my hands a bit when playing Beat Saber but, overall it's a good headset, no big complaints. No screen door effect as well, if that matters to you.

>>314403445
true, but >>314403276
also, the ones I found are both cheaper than the Quest 2 at my local walmart. I've heard the Rift S is decent, and I found one, but its the same problem as the Quest.

>>314403595
I was thinking about getting vr chat, actually. How does the tracking affect it? Are there any workarounds?

dude's idle animation I drew over while he was afk

>>314403276
wonder brick 2020...

>>314393808
I've learned from helping a couple community projects over the years is that people will bitch about your project no matter how much you polish it, and feel entitled to shit on it.

Only perk that'd come from this sub fee is if they use it to actually hire a couple more devs to further polish the game up and make it run better in general, vs. some of the stuff on their Canary tracker that's been unresolved for literally two years.

>>314403926
>people will complain about a broken project when you keep adding "features" over fixing the damn functionality to make it playable without ages old bugs still being in the code
yes that seems like something that would nettle the users no matter which project it happens on

>>314403647
In vrchat the Odyssey+'s controllers just don't have a wide range of movement. If I don't have my controllers in front of my face or chest they won't track at all. I end up looking weird with my hands hanging in front of me all the time. They also sometimes stop registering button presses like on the triggers or control pad until I spam press buttons for a while. It'll still track when that happens, just the buttons don't work. Overall it's just some minor annoyances though, and in other games I don't really have problems with it since I don't usually need that wide range of movement.

>>314404094
Well shit.

i want to know how do you manage to piss away millions in budget without managing to finish the fucking game before running out of funding

>>314404273
To be fair, I think you'll have similar problems with the tracking of any WMR headsets, or anything that doesn't use a base station. The tracking for the controllers just doesn't work if the controllers aren't in front of the headset.

Can't wait for the VRC+ only avatars

>>314404470
i will upload one of those to chill out :^)

>>314394284
>is a profit-splitting mechanism to allow creators to sell things to players.
That would require the devs to integrate an entire avatar customization system within the game, without it murdering its own performance.

Never happening.

>>314404410
and it's either that or selling myself to facebook, huh? (If I want to stay on the 'beginner' side at least)

They look so comfy

>IK still broken on avatars from a couple updates after Av3.0 went live
Cmon already.

>>314404410
>>314404824
If I just admit defeat, is a Rift S worth $300?

If I have a normal social life and a girlfriend do I still benefit from using VRChat?

>>314405549
If you can get a new Rift S for 300 usd it's a very good buy yea, especially since you don't need a facebook account for it.

>>314404364
I know we like to shit on them but I don't think they're so retarded that they'd piss all of it away and THEN monetize. They probably have a bit of it left but want to start supplementing it with the sub.

>>314405613
depends, do you enjoy world exploring and hanging out with other people as anime?

>>314405653
No, it's a used one with a crack in the little hoop on one of the controllers.

I thought I needed a fb account for all oculus devices now?

>>314405613
Do you want a girlfriend(male) instead?

>>314405659
i unironically believe this is their last ditch effort to stay independent from the looming faceberg threat by trying to monetize with some monthly fees like a shitty mmo, only thing they'll do is make their non monthly competition look better

>>314405759
>I thought I needed a fb account for all oculus devices now?
You will for Rift-S in 2023.

>>314405613
it's still a great way to socialize when everything in the real world is locked down.

>>314405759
Oh well fuck that, don't buy a used VR headset lmao. Especially one that's already broken. Just get a WMR if that's all you can afford, they're really not that bad. The Samsung is probably a little better than the Lenovo but they're comparable it looks like.

>>314404838
does this little creep do anything other than sit on people's lap?

>>314406303
what's wrong with sitting on peoples laps?

Speaking of WMR, does anyone use Vive full body tracking with a WMR headset? Does it allow you to get 360 degree controller tracking? And does it work well enough to be worth it?

>>314406380
I'm just picturing some fat 27 year old sitting on a random person's lap.

>>314406696
>picturing men sitting on your lap while you can see anime sitting on your lap
a-anon, how bold!

Who here uses the zuckerberg headsets?
Do you just resign yourselves to the situation or what?

Google knows what I want

>>314407352
probably not that many, since the jailbreak was a dud (or so i heard) no one will probably waste their money on a overpriced paperweight, faceberg is notorious for their arbitrary crap so getting your headset bricked is only a matter of time

>>314407456
Even if your jailbroke the headset, you'd still have to reverse their software on the PC side of things for Oculus Link, unless you want to resign yourself to Virtual Desktop and the limitations that incurs.

Aight finally ready to roll out.
INTRODUCING

/vrg/ GRAVURE 4 U
Gonna go and look for willing photographers for each timezone.
Requirement is ofcourse you have VRC lens
And we'll have a short talk on how to take amazing kino shots. Think of it as a nice way to learn and improve your KINO as well.

As for those that would be gracious enough to want to participate and have the avatar they have meticulously crafted to be showcased in a compilation,
please fill in this form:
https://forms.gle/HgcCtECoEhQfEcHw5
https://forms.gle/HgcCtECoEhQfEcHw5
Note: Only the event organizer will know who filled out the form
Our friendly photographer will go to the meetup of your choice to get you a very good photographic shot on an appropriate map of your choice or the photographer's prerogative to bring out the best out of your avatar. The holy trinity of Avatar, Pose and Map will manifest in full!

For the photoshopper anon who volunteered before, hope you are still in the thread and are ready for the roll out of stunning pictures ready to be placed with some unique VR advertisements interspersed in between the gravure.
For those who would want to create articles per shot as well, that would be an interesting welcome addition as well.

There would be a strict no name-plate policy and a no nipple/genital exposure.
By default there would be names used in post-production on the showcase picture unless specifically asked to be removed

Event Timing: November 23 to December 4, 2016
Event Address: VRchat meetups
Contact us at the thread

>>314407456
What does /vrg/ use then? I find it hard to believe you all have Indexes (Indices?). Mix of those and random WMR?

>>314407879
how the fuck should i know, what i do know is that if anyone in vrg is using q2 they are keeping it on the down low since i haven't heard a single person owning that wonder brick in meetups

>>314407879
We're faggots who enjoy pretending to be anime girls instead of having a real life, we can afford indexes

>>314407879
A lot of us still on the real OG, the Oculus Rift CV1 w/ Touch.

>>314407851
>November 23 to December 4, 2016
OH FUCK I MISSED IT

dae drinking on a thursday

>>314408047
most people who have fbt have index or vive i think, there are some other hybrids but the lighthouses from htc / valve are pretty much mandatory for puck tracking so it is just plain easier to go with htc vive or index than anything else to get fbt
>>314408163
cheers, kippis, kanpai, barack obama

>You need a VRChat+ account to join this instance. Read more about how to upgrade here.

>>314408385
How much would you say a new person should pay for a Vive? $300 or so?

>>314408710
>unable to send friend request to this user, please upgrade to vrchat+ to enable friend request to this account
>>314408725
no clue it is outdated tech on par with cv-1 / rift s so the price should have plummeted so you might be able to find it for pretty cheap, slap on top of that a used vive and the price could go for 300 or under

>>314408905
Ah, I see. I take it that wouldn't be a smart choice in 2020.

vive headset and knuckles controllers with lighthouses and fbt pucks would probably be the best combo, the vive controllers (dildo's) are pretty meh but i think you can use knuckles with the vive lighthouses so it should be a viable upgrade

Why is vrchat filled with such trash aesthetics and how to we fix it?

>>314408972
if you're going for budget choice it is very good choice, if you want to get your money's worth go for index (when they have it in stock), only downside to index right now is shortages on how much they can push out and the still a little steep price tag which will eventually drop once new waves of headsets get pushed out for competition, vive and index's strong point is the lighthouses being puck compatible so you don't have to run a hybrid setup or buy separate lighthouses

>>314406696

imagine seeing an anime character and thinking about fat men...

>>314406696
who cares, it's virtual you faggot

>>314408152
Wew. Meant 2020

>>314409124
I'm sorry, I'm retarded and don't know anything. What is a 'puck'?

Lighthouse I kind of get, those are the small cameras/IR sensors you set up to track your movements. But what about the other one?

I asked about the cost as I saw one with controllers, cables, and that little lighthouse thing for about $350 total (tax and shipping) but if you say it's outdated, then I'm not sure how that's going to affect things performance-wise. I'm picturing using a laptop or 90s pc compared to a modern desktop.

>>314409124
>>314409398 (Me)
That is to say, when you say outdated it sounds like the Vive is a 90s PC/Laptop to the Modern Headsets in terms of performance.

>>314409398
https://www.vive.com/us/accessory/vive-tracker/
that's a fbt puck
when i say outdated i mean it's first gen kind of, index is 1.5 gen but still it has improvement to some stuff
there aren't really that revolutionary next gen headsets out yet that aren't ridiculously overpriced and that have features not supported by most or any game
htc vive should be fine for a while at least unless you want the best of the best, for a budget setup it is very ideal since you don't have to buy separate lighthouses to upgrade it for fbt with the tracker pucks
it being outdated just means it isn't the #currentgen anymore which is just a good thing for the price tag

the most common ones to go for seem to be
cv-1 which you should not get anymore due to the cable being a piece of shit
rift-s which is okay but is limited by you needing to get new lighthouses to enable fbt
quest 1 which is okay because it came out before zuckerberg took a steaming pile of shit on oculus (cable enables it to be viable, still requires new lighthouses for fbt)
htc vive, the easiest way to get to fbt due to lighthouses being compatible with the vive trackers (pucks)
index / knuckles, the current stable trademark of quality, the go to for most who want up to date fbt compatible headset with lighthouses, the downside is knuckles controllers being a bit rubbish at times due to them being brittle but the valve customer service is excellent so you can just RMA them and get a new pair if they shit out on you
there are also some WMR headsets out there but most mixed reality headset makers abandoned the regular consumer market and went for corp, make sure it is compatible with vrchat before buying a headset because WMR's are hit or miss in wtf you're going to get

>>314399657
Now we know whoever is new is an attentionwhore who wants to be rated.

>on beer #3 hyping my antisocial self for my first VRChat degenerates meet
>realise NA is still asleep, and it’s only just gone Friday for them

>>314409398
These things. They're the smallest SteamVR-tracked object on the market, and thus people strap them to their bodies so they can track them without need of a more complex mocap rig like you'd have at a professional studio.

The OG vive is outdated mainly because it doesn't support 2.0 base stations, meaning you would only be able to get used old-type base stations. As a headset it's reasonably good but outclassed by some WMR in terms of picture quality, though you'd be trading image quality for controller tracking that isn't complete dogshit. The thing is, 'performance' on a headset is NOT the same as performance on a computer, unless you're dumb enough to buy a standalone wonderbrick from Zuccbook, because really they're just a display device with a tracking solution.

>>314410527
M is so cute, bros...

>>314410161
I was gonna get a WMR, but if the original Vive is still a decent first headset then I might as well, since it sounds like a lot of the bits are compatible with the Index (if I ever get one)

>>314410264
If I wanna do like VR chat are the base stations enough? You mention it doesn't support newer ones, but are the two it comes with enough for most things?
Do you recommend any WMR instead, or are the base stations enough of a reason to stick with it? Are the visuals acceptable or does it have the "screen door" I've heard so much about?

>They expect you to pay for bitch basic features that have been around in games for over 20+ years

What the fuck is this? I knew the VRCdevs were scummy as shit but this is ridiculous, who would be willing to pay for the base game anyways given the state it's in?

Fuck Tupper
Fuck Vrpill
Fuck the rest of the devs
And Most importantly, fuck jews

>>314406696
Someone is mad they weren't rated higher

>>314410527
why do i want to fuck every cute anime i see
>>314410639
it's compatible with the fbt tracker pucks, i am unsure if 1.0 lighthouse is compatible with index headset or knuckles controllers
however you are unlikely to buy a index without the lighthouses unless you buy it used for some reason and like i said i am unsure if knuckles works with 1.0 lighthouses that are native to htc vive
still it's much better even if it only supports the fbt tracker pucks than the competition, htc vive is a very decent headset for budget setup the only downside is the vive dildo's
anyone know if you can use knuckles with 1.0 lighthouses or would he have to upgrade to newer lighthouses to be able to use knuckles with htc vive?

>>314406303
not really, he used to be a mute retard but now he started speaking.

>>314411063
the fuck do you all have against the lap sitter, did your vrcrush headpat them while you seethed in the corner?

>>314410779
>Pay for
Think of it as donating.
We can easily just not pay for it and still get the full functionality of VRchat

Surprised they didn't do both the monthly fee, and "Pay to increase base # of favourites slots". That and doubling down on modded clients.

>>314411117
Sorry Zak, but you're not really interesting to me, maybe when you've developed a personality since you dropped your only one when you started speaking

https://twitter.com/PocketpairJapan/status/1329635615168626691

EPIC

>>314410639
1.0 base stations are perfectly functional and will do just fine for all VR. Even now, 1.0 base stations have objectively better tracking than inside out camera based controller tracking. There's just a few minor caveats:
1) 1.0 base stations require LOS to one another, or a sync cable between them. (Some users require one anyways. It's just an audio male-to-male cable, though)
2) You can use no more than two 1.0 base stations at a time, which can be a problem for some unusual room geometries or if you take the FBT dive for VRChat, to make sure your cuck pucks have visibility to two base stations at all times.
3) They're no longer made, so there's a fixed quantity. They're cheap now, but they'll run out and get expensive one day.

2.0 devices (Index, blue logo pucks, knuckles, vive pro wands, etc) can read the tracking sweeps from 1.0 base stations; 1.0 devices (OG vive, original dildos, grey logo pucks), however, cannot read tracking sweeps from 2.0 base stations.

>>314411153
>think of it as donating
if i want to donate money to a project or a person i prefer to do it directly instead of some round about way
what you're doing is basically withholding functionality from players to blackmail them into paying your monthly troll toll (cough cough discord tier crap cough)
>>314411253
>only the people i target would defend behavior that isn't absolutely abysmal
how salty can one guy be about someone getting headpats, just tell your vrcrush that they can't headpat other people because your fee fees go ouchie when they do

>>314411153
>We can easily just not pay for it and still get the full functionality of VRchat

What functionality? Bullshit avatar/world favorite limitations? The free pass to the top of the outlandishly retarded trust system?

It would be different if this were just a "yo come donate some to us and you'll get a nifty looking badge" but this isn't that. They're limiting the functionality of the game while also not working towards making the base game any less shit.

This wouldn't be as big of an issue if they weren't actively banning the modders out there that are trying to do their job for them, fucking hell.

>>314410841
Is this made by someoen that has never been to a vrchat meetup and only knows people by what they post in the nsfw, nsfw-chat, and general channels?
that's the only way this chart can make any sense

>>314410917
>>314411403
I guess I'll get a Vive then.
Now let's hope these random eBay sellers aren't a scam.

>>314411713
read up on ebay conduct stuff they might have some money back guarantee tier stuff if you get scammed and report it to the customer service of ebay
but yeah as long as the quality of the product is rated good and you make sure it has all the stuff you need in it buying used is fine
just prepare blacklight and some alcohol wipes so you don't get pink eye from someone fap stains

>>314411408
>how salty can one guy be
t. can't handle the slightest of criticism without attacking people

>>314411863
>calls out bullshit when he sees it
>"hurr durr can't handle criticism"
no u

>>314411863
>no i'm not mad you're mad!!

>>314411816
I'm not sure what the term is, but there's like two of them and neither have any numbers by their name, like "example (0)" for instance. The headsets have 4-5 stars on them though, so I take it that's good.

One of you mentioned the two outdated base stations might cause problems for fbt VR chat so that kind of sucks, but as far as I can tell they come with everything that was in the box originally. I'm pretty lost to what all tech I need but I'm guessing that that's a start.

>>314411403
>1) 1.0 base stations require LOS to one another, or a sync cable between them. (Some users require one anyways. It's just an audio male-to-male cable, though)
To sync what, the revolution of its IR emitter?

>>314412363
Pulse timing

>>314412095
there should be people here that know more about htc vive than i do, i never owned the headset myself i only heard from other people of their experiences with the headset and heard about some of the functionality
keep in mind it used to be the only way to have fbt without hybrid setup back in the day and hybrid setup requires 3rd party software and extra lighthouses
the chances of there being people who know the pros and cons of htc vive setup for fbt to vrchat are very high, ask around people are generally pretty helpful in sharing information about the products that they've had in past
just steer clear of oculus cv-1 it has a horrible type flaw of the cable wearing out and they don't produce the headset anymore nor the cable so once the cable is gone you'll be stuck with a expensive paper weight unless you somehow manage to find a unused cable for cv-1

>>314411501
>They're limiting the functionality of the game
They literally just increased the avatar fave slot

>>314412434

>>314412363
1.0 base stations have three components of a base station pass:
1) modulated sync pulse containing base station info
2) x pass
3) y pass
You can tell because they have two rotors.

2.0 base stations instead encode the timing data into the IR itself, and use fancy lanses to make the elevation instead able to be told by the difference between two tightly spaced pulses. You can tell because it has one rotor, and the two sets of dim red vertical lines change spacing depending on elevation angle to the base station.

They're perfectly fine for FBT, I know anons with 1.0s that do FBT.

>>314412683
>and use fancy lanses to make the elevation instead
Huh, I was wondering how that was done. I figure they just moved to the one rotating motor + elevation being a series of small IR LEDs flashing in succession.

>hating on VRC plus
I hope there will be VRC+ only worlds to filter out poorfags and kids.

MONKEY

>>314413682
>throw away money or you're poor
ok juden

>>314413682
>Public Networking worlds between the capable filtering out the plebs
Might work unironically
Same reason why paid MMOs have better people in it

>>314413815
>>314413682
This is it. I can't wait for the high-brow meetups where we sip fine wine and laugh at the plebs.

Reminder to fix your posture in VR friends!

>>314410226
Some of them I just missed on the first run. I just was lazy and wanted to get it out, so I didn’t do a review of it.

>>314413876
Git ye golemn be gone

>consider joing vrc and do some preparations
>it just started dying with this vrc+ bullshit
why does this always happen, am I cursed?

>>314412434
>They literally just increased the avatar fave slot

They paywalled it, yes. Again, if this were a modern game made in the year 2020 (or anytime past 2000 honestly) there should be no reason for having a limited amount of favorites and yet VRC does anyways. Them coming out and saying "donors get more slots" is equivalent to them outright admitting that there's no reason for the limit in the first place and that they're altering it for monetary gain.

I wonder if they will double down on clients and fix their shitty security with the VRC+ update?

>>314414105
Only way they can double-down on modded clients is making it too annoying for the modders to maintain by regularly shuffling function names and their locations in memory on a daily basis, requiring us to update the client every day.

>>314414051
Also this just occured to me, but isn't it literally illegal for VRC to make profit off their product since they're currently hosting millions of unlicensed asset rips? Unless they plan on giving all that money to various companies for IP licenses they're going to have a fuckton of lawsuits up their ass the moment they start making any money.

>>314414065
goodnight mommy

>>314414337
https://youtu.be/sVXnoanopzA

>>314414337
You're not paying for features that involve them having used content they stole themselves.

>>314414592
>you're not paying for the strippers you're just paying for entry to the strip club

Day 3
As previously promised SEA hours daily light exploration starting today until July 7,2021
Hopefully you are ok with just one or two people since this is where we will start. Not everyone has free time.

Slight change of sched as I realized doing a light exploration on Wed, Fri and Sundays are redundant as we already do exploration on those days on a later time slot.
So adding a minor weekly variation on the matter

Mon, Tue, Thu, Sat - 11 AM UTC for 2 hrs till 1PM UTC - SEA hr light exploration
Wed, Fri - 2:30PM UTC to 4:00 PM UTC - SEA after anime hrs light exploration
Sun - 10:30 AM UTC to 3:00 PM UTC - SEA after anime hrs heavy exploration

composed of:
15 mins - gathering and preparation chat
60 mins - world exploration (random)
15 mins - mirror break
30 mins - world exploration (old guaranteed good)
Note: Heavy exploration on Sundays are longer

Today is Friday and thus will have the exploration after anime about 5 hrs from this post
Will post the world link later for the gathering and preparation stage when the anime is about to finish

>>314414703
I could really go for a Kaiju VR game. Give me a Rampage where I can grab people, throw them, climb buildings and punch them until they fall, etc.

it's /vrg/

>>314414592
That isn't the point, the point is that they're making money from a product that thrives off of illegal (lol) content. In the same way that Youtube has strict regulations involving song and video usage in order to stay legally afloat and keep monetization active, VRC will have to find a way to protect the unlicensed IP's if they plan on making any revenue from plus. The only way they could keep going with plus is if they:

>Removed worlds that host unlicensed assets/IP's
>Banned/Removed avatars that are unlicensed assets/IP's

Otherwise they'll be getting fucked for the rest of eternity in the courts over IP theft. It doesn't matter if they didn't "steal" the content or not, as long as they're hosting it legally they're 100% at fault.

>>314414853

>>314414803
>Kaiju VR game
We have a VRchat map for that. Come join exploration and we'll visit it later
https://www.vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_cb004ddd-d4b4-4df7-8cd2-142dd31b2477

Though it is a lot more basic for now

>>314414912
They already respond to DMCA requests. SquareEnix did a rather sizable world banwave last year since people kept ripping FFXIV assets to it.

>>314414853
its any community that has ever existed

>>314414065
goodnight mommy!

Avatars 3.0 are lag bombs now. The October update made 3.0 avatars become very laggy for some reason. Basically if you take out your camera while looking in the mirror you blue screen yourself. It has to be a newly uploaded 3.0 avatar though, if it one from before the October update then it’s fine.

>>314415448
What the heck. I'm suspecting something on the backend with their to be implemented avatar nameplate systems

>>314411704
He goes to some meetups, but all the other things you said are right

>>314415339
>stay behind and hang out with the people that accidentally destroyed the way of the community
>follow the exiles into shangri la and risk it being destroyed too
and slowly
you come to realize
it's all as it should be~
https://youtu.be/ruQsv709MA0

>>314415335
Well then in that case there isn't going to be any licensed content on the platform by next year considering how up to this point they've been rolling as a nonprofit company. Now that they're shifting gears towards making dough from their platform more and more companies are going to file requests but this time as lawsuits since they'll be making money from the distribution of their assets. At the end of all this VRC is going to either tank due to legal debts or there isn't going to be a sign of any intellectual property on their platform within the next year.

>>314415641
forced OC only content could be interesting motivation for people to make custom avatars from scratch but fuck it if it comes at the price of hashtag monthly fees

>>314415608
Just play with your friends.
This is not some weird thing, it's just a group getting big enough to get sub-groups.

Joining and interacting with everyone on the events keep people together and coherent even if the place gets too big.

>>314415793
>join on friends that left community to get away from people excluding them or being dicks to them
>folks are happy to see you
>you become a leak in the ship and other people bleed in
>people drift to private instances or log off
men who chase bonfires
https://youtu.be/qGtIqrz2nRM

>>314415641
>VRChat becomes a world where creators rule instead of people who can rip game assets from tools other people made
Might be an improvement. Most of the locations I hang out in are original content anyways. Video game worlds don't make for great VR hangouts.

>>314416019
How is this even possible with the orange status now?
Also while I do realize there are shy people, people saying they got "excluded" is blatantly false unless they pissed offed too many people to gain notoriety. It's insanely hard to get excluded from /vrg/ where we have such high tolerance and acceptance to ideas or discussions.

>>314415767
It would mean more booths, no mmd, no gamerips.
More booth map content, no gamerips etc.
Less content over all, but not as bad as people make it up to be. More non copyright content will be created, but it will take time.

>want to make worlds but getting assets is too hard
end me

>>314416408
Make the assets yourself? The only shit I lift from booths/prefabs are things like URL players (why is VRChat's default one absolute garbage?) and royalty-free sounds/ambient noises.

>>314416226
it's not and that's why i don't invite req on orange or private
i am using excluded very liberally, if you are hanging out in small group and bunch of people pour in the meeker ones get pushed to the fringes and just get bored and leave

>>314415532

Idk ive tested it multiple times to figure out what it was, I’ve even made 2.0 avatars made the same as the 3.0 ones and the 2.0 have no performance hit. You can get the lag bomb from cycling through 3 or 4 3.0 avatars, which will lag everyone in the instance badly or lag your self by turning on the mirror and pulling out there stream camera.

It’s funny hearing all the people in public instances complaining about the lag though.

how much does vrchat fuck with your sexuality?

>>314399657
>All of these literal whos
How is discord community namedropping virtual reality video games?

>>314416527
>just be a professional artist bro

>>314416980
it doesn't, it only makes you realize fetishes that you already had and makes it easier for you to come out of the closet
if you're a hard straight no amount of anime tiddie will make you overlook the faggy voices, if you're a bi you'll be in heaven, if you're gay you're part of the majority and vrchat is like las vegas of sins for you to discover how gay you really are

>>314414703
SEA was fun. I miss it.

>>314414703
>15 mins - mirror break
This is actually kind of cute.

>>314417137
Then come with anon, the more the merrier.
It's daily so surely some of the days you'll be able to come

>>314416980
It doesn't. You can pretty easily fall for someone despite the male voice if you're a lonely sack of shit but the moment you see what they look like irl (and you're not actually gay) that illusion is immediately and permanently shattered. Plenty of "straight" dudes suck a mean dick though so I dunno. Sometimes it's just fun to play pretend but it's not like it matters. It's real people but it's not real life.

>>314417083
You don't need AAA-level assets? Just have a good aesthetic.

>>314417568
>falling for a straight guy
>they are hard straight
>bad end
aaaaaa

>>314416408
What kind of world?

>>314417258
The more the merrier doesn't really apply if me being there causes someone else to leave does it?

>>314417568
This is why the vrfu meme always end badly. Just coom and have fun like a superior bi/prison gay/loves anime tits person.

>>314418131
I don't know about your personal problems anon... sorry to hear. Maybe temporarily blocking might help?
Can still come enjoy exploration with others while side stepping the issue for now
Good luck on the matter though, and hope everything turns for the better

>>314414943
>and we'll visit it later
I've yet to join with other /vg/ denizens and I'll probably keep it that way. Was a nice map though, although basic as you mentioned. Will show it off to some other folks I know into the subject.

>>314418302
To each their own. Glad you enjoyed the map though

>>314418180
i wouldn't mind gaying it up with a vrcrush but i have realized i am picky about it being a twinky/trappy person which makes looking for one difficult without being creepy

>>314418180
Yeah the moment you try to take that irl it get all the irl problems that meatspace has. In cyberspace you can have anime bitches with whatever sized tiddies you want and freely nut into and onto all of them without worry. VRfus are nice too if you're into that but you've just got to make sure you remember it isn't going anywhere so it's no hard feelings if/when it ends.

>>314414065
goodnight mommy!

>>314418054
my own comfy hideout in the mountains

>>314410841
How do I get moved up to a higher tier? add a cushion to my lap? more headpats? less headpats?

>>314418721
https://youtu.be/XAjNJQc_5C0

I can't find the time to play anything other than VRC
Even bought around 5 new games in the past few days but haven't even downloaded them yet

>>314418721
knowing who made it, yes

>>314418721
Flirt with zhakhazard in the discord.
Unironically.
List makes zero sense if applied to virtual reality in fact it's almost perfectly inverse.

>people who will pay $10/mo to go from New User to Trusted

>>314410841
>rat in C
dogshit taste

>>314419127
good thing I prefer green to purple

>>314419215
So do pubbies. For some reason no one talks to purple names but they're always fine approaching greens.

>>314395221
>>314400085
update on this, sadly it didn't fix it. I may try again but I moved the hip "base" upwards as it said and still having the wide shoulder issue

>>314414853

How do you get that Real /vrg/ Feel?

>>314419595
having fun with the boys on a friday night talking about fun topics and genuinely enjoying your time in vrc

>>314419134
rat is all about feet anon, not thighs/ laps.....

>>314418259
>temporary
If that's an intentional pun, that's actually pretty well done. The mogra gif brings back memories though.

>>314417137
>>314418131
>>314419791
One of the reason said person wants nothing to do with you is because you keep posting this shit in the thread all the time. fuck off with your pity posting.

>>314419215
Good thing we can toggle between green & orange/purple.

>>314419572
On that note...

Contractors tonight at 19:00 GMT. Lobby details to go up just beforehand but this will be an EU lobby. Download these mods in game:
https://contractors.mod.io/windfallisland
https://contractors.mod.io/codol-mp-mountain
https://contractors.mod.io/mw1-backlot
https://contractors.mod.io/clocktown
https://contractors.mod.io/waw-mp-castle
https://contractors.mod.io/splatoon2portmackerel
https://contractors.mod.io/ninjawarrior

I'm going to get vrc+ to support the game I've played for 3 years now, spent over 4000 hours in, love to death and met so many wonderful people in, I don't really care what it gives

>>314419854
You seem a bit too mad anon.
Can't we all just be friends? The person you replied too didn't seem to be too bad

>>314420010
fuck off yuki

>>314419858
yea, about that... you have to set it to green every time you join a new world, it's a new feature, to remind you that you really are better than everyone else

>>314419965
This guy gets it
It's a donation

>>314420092
Is it a donation if it's a subscription?

>>314420070
>Resorting to namedropping a random person while blinded with rage
I do hope you see the irony in all of this

>>314420092
Ah yes I love a $10 donation every month for no new features I care about while devs keep breaking things I do care for every update.

>>314420216
Please let's not.

>>314419595
for me it was learning how to play mahjong in vrc and then getting decent enough to be able to banter for hours while playing tiles

>>314399427
What has AV3 broke exactly? They broke AV3 alone briefly and fixed it again but it didn't break other none-AV3 things.
Udon is very powerful and you're blind if you don't see what it can do

>>314420161
>>314420257

Patreon is technically a donation that is monthly
CHECKMATE

>>314420257
and yet you'll still play the game and pad their statistics

>>314420346
I don't give money to patreonshits either, how is that relevant to the discussion?

>>314420397
That is is acceptable to have this kind of payment model even with little to no additional game aside from access to the base game.

A donation system

>>314420451
the game is free
the features which are paid do not interest me
yet you'll still shit on everyone who doesn't follow your retarded way of thinking and just throws money at them because m-muh feefees

>>314420257
I liken it to the idiots that pay for Discord Nitro just so they can play animated gifs.

>>314420659
>yet you'll still shit on everyone who doesn't follow your retarded way of thinking
Woah there. What the heck, who killed your mother that you visualize someone your discussing something with as oppressing you?

No one is forcing you to pay for this stuff
I'm just saying it's an acceptable way to support VRchat
There literally is no degredation on how we play the game right now before and after this new way to donate

Stop with the victim mentality there bud

vrchat+ won't become a thing, the first company to sue them for using their shit and getting paid for it will cause them to abandon that model and going to some outright donation method that would bypass them making money out of the game features
i don't know why they found that so hard and what on earth possessed them to risk their necks on a legal death match with the countless companies and creators that have been sharpening their axes all this time just waiting for a excuse to have a valid case to sue vrchat for using their shit
in conclusion, make it a flat out donation system on the website and just give those features to everyone you dinguses, that's the only way you're avoiding the legal jews gutting your games

Getting a headset today, which one do i start with to prevent motion sickness?

>>314420161
>>314420257
If you want to donate a little just pay for a single month then? It's not a mandatory subscription and they haven't taken anything you already have from you to give to subscribers. It's still the same game except now you get the option to support it if you want.
If you don't want to support the game, don't give them money... good for you

>>314421023
if you want to beg for money be direct about it on your website or suffer the wrath of the legal jews

>>314421015
Half life alyx using the teleport method
or
VRchat using the holoport locomotion with snap turning

>>314421136
Thanks!

>>314421015
>prevent
Just try the comfort options and see how much you can handle. Take it slow. Also Alyx was designed with being baby's first vr game in mind so I guess that. I still recommend Space Pirate Trainer as the best first time vr game though it has no movement.

>>314419949
Thread hoster anon, I kneel.

>>314421015
Alyx. Get it out of the way before you play any other VR FPS from the past year that does what it does, but better, with regards to VR interactions.

tupper tell your moron team what happens when a non-profit game enters the profit market where they are fair game for judiciary repercussions, the only reason your game is still up is because you dodged a bullet by not making any money out of it directly, the lawyers will equate your vrchat+ income as income as should which means you will be entering the field of copyright law hell

a helios dev just posted this

>>314421435
Y'all will come back even if they have to set fire to a lot of obviously IP-infringing usermade uploads. The alternatives as of yet are still shit.

>>314420893
>I'm just saying it's an acceptable way to support VRchat
yes, and nothing's wrong with that so go on ahead
>Stop with the victim mentality there bud
I'm sorry, but I feel like I've more than enough reason to not trust anyone who seems like they need to justify their purchase of something like this, I've seen it happen way too many times
It's always like that, first it starts with
>hey guys btw I'm gonna give them money because I like this game so much!
then it's
>imagine not giving money to the devs who made this game you played for so much already, what's wrong with you
and finally it's something like
>lol look at this sublet! what are you, poor?

>>314419949
god I wish I didn't suck at vrfps so much

>>314419949
>Ninja warrior

>>314421531
>have to start banning IP content from your platform
>the companies will be looming over your shoulders to ensure every report gets a ban
>suddenly you start to ban every potential new user who accidentally shreks into your game
>video game character users get the guillotine for having those on their account
>massive cull of playerbase due to being forced to enforce the rules
>people just trickle elsewhere because they are banned on your platform for using assets ripped from video games
are you stupid or are you trying to kill the game on purpose?

>>314421531
Man imagine if everything IP infringing got deleted from vrc. How much would even be left?

>>314421679
It won't be a ninja warrior only lobby.

>>314421583
You could try to come along anyway, hopefully it'll be fun since I plan to only do instant respawn game modes.

>>314421826
even their featured avatar worlds are full of it kek

the solution is very simple and you dodge the copyright hell bullet with it as well, if you need to beg money for your project do it through straight out donations you sploogers
https://youtu.be/MlW7T0SUH0E

>nooooooooo you can't pay for a game you enjoy!!!! !
>nooooo you're gonna make fun of me for not paying!! !!!!!!!!! !!

>noooo, i am too fucking stupid to realize that the only thing keeping my game alive is the fact that it is non-profit
>if i don't know the law they can't sue me, r-right??

Walking dead game is really fun, specially when you interact with the objects like cigarretes and clocks

jeez i wonder why youtube and every other platform that makes any kind of money is so anal about copyright laws to the point of it being humorous, surely they do that just because they are dum dum and like to fuck with their customers, there is no possible way they do that to avoid court cases or anything pragmatic like that

>>314422186
i spent most of my time in that game chainsmoking just because you can

>>314422369
what

>>314422089
fuck off retard, it just gives the sad cunts even more reason to keep harassing you or exclude you from things
people are already asking the devs if there's an api through which you can check if a user has a sub or not
>enter world
>"Oops! This world is only available to VRC+ subscribers!
>get ported to gay baby jail

i am not saying this shit just to be a dick i just don't want the game to get sued to oblivion and become a page in history, consult your legal advisors and they should confirm that getting paid for the game would enter you into a world of legal hurt

>>314422504
you can grab cigarettes from the packs, put them in your mouth and light them
t e c h n o l o g y

>>314422213
Thing is anon, I can upload copyrighted stuff onto youtube, 90% of the time they make it so I can't earn money off it because it's not my original IP/work and then 10% they might just have it taken down.

I would pay for VRC+ if I could make VRC+ only instances and got Ok for 18+ content in them.
As a paid services implies you are 18+, no more kids.

>vrc approved strip clubs
based

>>314422605
what's the name of your company, how famous is it and how many companies are after your ass for using their shit already waiting with grinded axes to get a piece of the pie through legal actions?

>>314422513
You're retarded

>>314422740
see >>314422618

>noooooo, why can't the game keep being a money sink forever
>the investors will keep investing in it, right!?!

>>314422764
Yes, see >>314422740

>>314422868
sure, but see >>314422740

>>314422804
>investors pour money
>"there you go this should help you finish the game"
>"cheers"
>splooge everything on nonsense
>"that's okay matey, you're the flagship of vr we want you to succeed, here's more funding, just finish the game ok?"
>"cheers"
>splooge it all again
>"now what in the god damn are you boys doing with all the money we keep pouring on you?! the customers are complaining that your game is buggy and now you're trying to commit legal suicide by entering the legal hell hole of copyright law?! we poured money on you to keep you out of that, what the fuck have you been up to?!"
>"just making a little extra on the side, don't sweat it old man"
>"... "
https://youtu.be/_3X61zDcu4s

>waste millions on some derpy devs
>they sink the flagship of vr because they wanted to hustle some extra out of the customers
fuck investors, get paid~

Used to be an aircraft carrier map I enjoyed. Dev updated it at some point in the last couple months and added a virtual joystick instead of continuing to allow direct analog stick interactions, and it ruined the whole thing.

A shame since it was the most full featured simulator I've seen in vrchat, more-so with the new shit added.

Is it possible to adjust the volume of an audio source with the expression menu on Avatars 3.0?

>>314424150
Yes.
Audio source is a component with variables that can be modified through animations.

>>314424227
Great, thanks anon!

>>314421520
i dont even know what helios is

>>314424474
looks like just another social vr platform
https://youtu.be/U9q1JHnOXsY

>>314424227
Is there a better way to track all of your component variables at all? Unity's UI for all of this is such a mess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8tGBE5VlGQ

>>314424691
You mean instead of using add property in the animation? I always press the record button and change variables which add it to the timeline

>>314424621
Unreal engine VRchat
Lavender...

>>314424747

I'm a pleb in blender but was wondering is there any intuitive way to try and take a texture from one character and apply it to another one?
The problem was that a model I have doesn't have separated body from clothes, so the entire body is just one huge mesh that includes all of the clothes, head accessories and some other accessories as well, and I'd really like to apply to use the outfit or parts of it on a different body

>>314425042
There is a way but it is not intuitive

>>314424621
>camera pans to todd avatar
kek

>>314425042
Replace the texture on the material and move the UVs around to fit. It will be hell, good luck

>>314425237
>>314425086
ah that's what I thought but wasn't sure if you can just pick and choose which parts of the texture to use and how to use them.
Haven't played with uv mapping yet so idk what it even looks like

>>314425042
Can you seperate by materials/parts and delete the non clothes parts?
Or open the UV editor and select the non clothes parts you wanna delete?

>>314425386
can't check rn but I think the that would only leave out the face and hair
the rest of the body is just one giant part, including the hands and legs and all that

>>314419949
Based.

>>314425652
If that is the case, you can use grow selection or ctrl+L after selecting a vert on parts you don't want to keep of the outfit in edit mode it will only select verts physically connected by edges. You can use this to trim out all the body parts you don't need and then just have your outfit ready to put onto the other model

>>314407851
Slight bump on this one
Looking for willing photographers for each timezone.
We have three so far
More photographers is best so we can get most people who may want to get an extremely kino pic of their avatar

Photographers will have a meetup this coming weekend for a run down on how to use the VRClens tips and tricks and as a brainstorming process on potential great maps that can be used for the picture taking.

>>314426113
get your cringe shit out of here yuki

>>314424789
I'll give that a shot, thanks. I just usually look track of my vars across the avatar is all, but if I can just do it all within an animation that's probably easier.

>>314426204
let people have their fun, it's still vr related since it's ingame photography

>>314426113
Cute picture.

>>314426395
Would you eat her soggy bread?

>>314426371
>/vrg/ porn shoots
oh boy that'll go great

>>314426449
t.person who can't read or maliciously misleading
see pic related

>>314426449
there's already a vr porn thread where people share pictures so magazine with pinups is not that bizarre or new, i expect a lot of people to be spilling their goo to that me included depending on what avatars it will have

>>314426045
hmm true, I'll try that, thank you.
I was worried about the gloves sinxe I also would like to use them but I guess the same logic applies.
Not sure about the sleeves though, as I'd like maybe larger or longer arms so I imagine still some uv remapping might be needed

>>314426535
>implying the groomer hosting will keep it at that

>>314426549
leave it in /trash/ then

>>314426535
Does this also apply to nipples on male avatars?
I think not since male chests are not as sexualized as the female chest.

>>314426648
When did an SOS event ever become worse than what was advertised?

>>314426419
No, that's gross.

>>314426648
>no nudity
>nanachi looks even lewder with clothes on
tee hee

>>314426707
>male nipples
Hmmmmm... kind of double standard but I guess just incase some people become smart on that loophole, male nipples are ok as long as you don't do anything explicitly sexual with it like rubbing the nips or licking it.

Sensual poses will probably occur on some specially the lewder participants but we're keeping it strict with no nipple and genital exposure

>>314426739
when the sweaty mouthbreather (you) decided to label everything as an "SOS event," because by-fucking-god can he not stop his obsession with ruining haruhi and any related characters by association of his annoying existence

bros why does my quest 2 have such shitty wifi connection, its literally impossible to watch porn on it, you have to be next to the fucking router
and its not like "bro just wait a bit" its, literally, impossible to play the video

I like Yuki

>>314426707
>implying that's anywhere close to being true

>>314426834
why can't the nanachifags look like this instead of their shitty chibi furry ocs

>>314426896
Have you not learned from the show?
Truly understand what Haruhi is and what SOS stands for.

The essence of the show is to go and do things no matter how silly or cringe or inexperienced you are.
To do things to the best of your ability to make everyone have fun.
We don't know where we're going but let's try anyways.
So keep moving
To embrace and know and realize truly that FUN THINGS ARE FUN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb-d3bIPJP0

>>314427319
actually, those are pokemon, so actually they aren't even furry, okay?

>>314427335
I'm glad that at least the people closest to you have realized what an annoying fuck up you are.
I can only hope the rest here will soon enough.

Yuki may be cringe but he's a cool cat creator. He gets a pass. The others are a bit too social political for my own taste. For better or for worse we are a community who tolerates a lot of stuff. True tolerance

Individually avoid the bad people. And others will also learn to avoid them

The events are fine and optional so whatever but yeah, labelling everything SOS is really cringe. Especially when you really force it like Secrets of SEAs and Secrets of Santa. Even ask the people in your discord how cringe they think it is

>>314427319
i think there is actually a pedestal v4 nanachi with maid outfit already out there, if you want a special type of maid avatar you would probably have to frankenstein one yourself

>>314427445
>True tolerance
>scares away newfriends by being a creepy fucker by nature
lmao

>>314426981
Thanks anon, means a lot to me.
Hope to continue having fun together with you and everyone

>>314427494
No way, I'm happy with my dumb boothcat, I just wish the nanachifags had something worth nhaaing about.

>>314427517
Scaring away normalfags is based.

>>314426886
Then I'm in for the photo shoot.

>>314427541
nakedchi is the bestchi

>>314427438
>I'm glad that at least the people closest to you have realized what an annoying fuck up you are
Sounds like an attempt to make me distrust my friends
That will never work as I truly trust in and enjoy the company of my tomodatchis.
Try again satan

In anycase I hope you find peace within yourself. Now if you will excuse the rest of the thread with this off-topic stuff. We have VR things to discuss

>>314427690
You're a treasure yuki and everyone knows it!

>>314427690
I know it's a useless effort to convince the guy with 2 brain cells that he's dumb and obnoxious, but I can at least warn the rest about you.

>>314427690
>We have VR things to discuss
do you know where you are?

>>314427574
Welcome aboard! Reminder to fill up the form so we can be sure that our photographers go to you instead of crossing fingers that one of them come by you by chance.

>>314427448
Fun things are fun anon, it can't be helped. Thanks for bearing with the cringe and hope you enjoy the activities all together

why the fuck do people feel the need to stir up shit, is your life really so boring that you can't think of anything better to do than starting shit?
go watch gintama or something ffs

>>314427871
T-tangential topics about VR is ok too!
Up to 3 degrees of separation

>>314427517
>getting scared by something like that
as a newfriend I found it funny in a way, they're ok in my book

>>314414703
Exploration to occur about 1 hr from now
Will drop the link later to the first few maps we're gonna explore to
See you there soon~

Redpill me on Mamamad.

>>314427445
in my eyes /vrg/ is a bonfire, everyone can come and go as long as they know how to get in, there isn't any real rule on what kind of people can enter as long as you don't somehow piss off literally everyone, like 4chan /vrg/ expresses through action the best parts of anarchy and is the reason why i like the place
we have blacks, trannies, faggots, straights and everything in between from all regions and walks of life all united only by the fact that they like the game, it's a beautiful sight to behold even the ones that have something against any of the stereotypes that visit manage to still at the very least tolerate them to a degree
all in all /vrg/ will always be a bonfire to me where the only uniting thread (pun intended) is the bonds people forged
https://youtu.be/INR00d-g7cw

>>314429109
Some schizo that's constantly screaming and moaning at the same time with a really bad headset mic. They're kind of funny for sheer shock value.

>>314429375
wait wtf I've been among niggers without knowing?

>>314429598
yeah we have a couple but they behave so well you can't really call them niggers, i am more of a nigger than any of the black folks we have in /vrg/ and i'm white as fuck irl

>>314429109
discord been yelling about it for a week, being an EU fag I can only regurgitate what the NA fags are moaning about but this is the TLDR: loud user who's fun to watch like observing an SCP, but horrible if you want a peaceful convo with your friends

>>314430080
i mean if they bother you i would just mute them, i have couple of times muted them when i couldn't hear anything others were saying but i unmute them when i don't have any interesting conversations going on or when they calm down a little

>>314430232
probably my approach if mamamad would ever visit eu hours

Last check before I do something I regret

Original Vive + accessories for $350 as a beginner headset is 'alright' ?
I can still do stuff like Pavlov and VRChat with the controllers/two 1.0 base stations right?

Also, the seller included this picture for some reason. Is there something wrong or is that just what vr lenses look like when they're on?

>>314430272
think they've been around at least EU hours not sure if it was officially EU meetup, it's kind of bizarre how they are that excited all the time i suspected stimulants but apparently that wasn't the case or at least people didn't think so so i have no clue what gives them their burst of energy and strange behavior but id say they are mostly harmless

>>314430416
read up about vive dildo's (the controllers) so you won't feel cheated, they are far from the best controllers but for that price tag they should suffice, getting it for as low as 350 seems like a steal considering that you can upgrade it to fbt if the headset is in good condition
yeah you can play palvov and vrchat with vive and two base stations, they probably just wanted to show the condition of the face guard thing aka the padding around the rims of the headset so it isn't all fucked up i think

Does anyone here that has owned an original Vive attest to how bad the visual quality is, or the screen door effect is if it's present?
Saw a few videos and it seemed like there was a little bit of SDE, but it was unnoticeable after a while.

>>314430936
It's not awful at first glance, but if you ever try anything better, you'll never be able to go back.

>>314430936
>how bad the visual quality is, or the screen door effect is if it's present?
>Saw a few videos and it seemed like there was a little bit o
The screendoor is pretty bad desu, but the FOV more than makes up for it. You will get used to it, and there is a possible Index + controllers upgrade with easy FBT on the horizon if you decide this is something for you.

At the end of the year each timezone should do some general rating of their newfriends acquired in that year or the last X months.

>>314431038
>>314431085

>annual reports
yada

>>314420257
don't donate then :^)
features you don't care about seem pretty par for the course for you, so why get upset about yet another one

>>314430416
like >>314431038 said, you can survive with it, hell I even use it to this day because my poor ass can't afford anything else right now, but I can easily see that my friends can clearly see text that would be 1 massive blur for me

>>314421520
Investors expect ROI

>>314419949
Nice, I hope we can have contractors thread lobbies again, that don't die after 2 sessions.

>>314432226
>pay the devs to keep them from needing to monetize
>they do it anyway to get extra dough killing the golden goose

>>314432226
If the Investors are still HTC & Facebook, they're getting their ROI on people buying their hardware for VRChat usage.

>>314432541
not if they sink their flagship by getting their asses sued for copyright infringement

>>314432541
Unless you can present the investment agreement that says otherwise, it's pretty safe to assume there are strings attached.

>>314410559
he's mine please step aside

>>314432689
dmca please stay away :(

>>314433226
I'm pretty sure they've done DMCA takedowns before

>>314428775
>>314414703
Anime done! First map here! Let's gooo
https://www.vrchat.com/i/section-lunchablemoxie-4df43
https://www.vrchat.com/i/section-lunchablemoxie-4df43

>>314433226
the solution is simple, dont make things public

>>314433560
https://www.vrchat.com/i/girl-industrymarch-be55e
https://www.vrchat.com/i/girl-industrymarch-be55e
and here now

>>314434034
>>314433560
god I hate work, have fun bros

Wish you all a good upcoming weekend.

>>314434647
good weekend anon

Well, the weekend has started. I'll miss you until monday all my friends.

>>314435112
got work?

>>314435250
No, just avoiding weekend meetups

>>314435250
theyll be so paralytically drunk they will have amnesia

>>314435286
I wonder if there's many like you
I feel like I see most if not all faces on weekends usually

>>314421286
What other VRFPS would you recommend?

>>314435549
I prefer comfy weekday meetups but weekends have their own charm. Anon just seems to being a bit of a baby about it

>>314434138
goodluck at work

>>314435937
When I hop on during weekends, I typically find one big meetup with one or two smaller instances, and I'll join those instead a lot of the time.

>>314435112
I'm sure you'll remind us over the course of the weekend with your debbie downer sadposts constantly looking for attention anon, we wont forget (you) while having fun. Maybe if you continue to post about it an entire group of people will change their habbits to cater for one background character sadsack who can't muster up the courage to ask said friends to go and hang out and do something different on the weekend.

its hilarious that phossu cant get friends on vrc so theyve resorted to being a cvr shill like maebbie in a desperate attempt to get them

>>314436238
that's enough crack for one day

>>314435549
Idk, I know a few people that mentioned they don't visit them because of the same reason
>>314435937
Well what can I do, it just doesn't work for me, I'm sorry. If someone feels happier that I'm there then I'd join and go through with it but the meetups are hectic enough to not even notice anyone missing, which is also good.
>>314436161
Don't worry anon I won't, I have things to do. Enjoy your weekend
>>314436107
I never notice them, or they're one of the people I barely know

>>314436238
Shut up Phossu is a nice retard

>>314435549
I do the same thing. Weekend meetups are madhouses. It's hard to have a conversation with people screeching over each other.

>>314436510
>meetups are hectic enough to not even notice anyone missing
>>314436963
Ahh, you're talking about the uncultured NA meetups I see

>>314437216
where
how

Any other headsets like the CV1 Rift where there's that spring tension on the strap arms so you can easily just pull the headset off without a problem, but still have it fit snug against your face without any subtle wobble?

>>314437253
I've been to some EU ones as well, aside from the lack of constant screeching they're not really that different.

>>314437342
eBay
with a gift card

If you want one, there's another seller. One of the pictures looked weird to me though, so I went with this one.

>>314437425
>aside from the lack of constant screeching they're not really that different.
sounds like a pretty big difference
in fact, it sounds like the entire reason i dont go to na hours

>>314437216
You could have just bought a Quest 2 for $300 or even a Lenovo Explorer for $130. outside-in is a meme that is going the way of the dodo.

>don't post on discord
>never mentioned in the thread
its that easy fellas

>>314437413
index slides on and off like a dream

>>314437549
Eh, I get it, that's a pretty big reason. But there's more to it than that.

>>314437626
Facebook, Wonderbrick, Etc. After hearing that everywhere it just seemed like a bad idea.

I was gonna get a Lenovo Explorer, but people kept mentioning the poor tracking. Supposedly most of the stuff I just bought I can use for full body tracking and the Index later on.

I don't know what outside in is. :/

>>314437626
>full area tracking
>most accurate
>works in complete darkness or bright sunlight
Meme

>>314429109
retard psycho that the faggot kern and co keep bringing to the meetups and then screaming at Ryder when he rightfully kicks them for shitting up the meet.
Keep your spergs in your shitty public worlds.

>>314437975
Valve can delete all of your games too you know, and they also collect data on you like Facebook.

*mic drop*

I don’t think it’s quite that simple. Some people never observe anything, Life just happens to them. They get by on little more than a kind of dumb persistence, and they resist with anger and resentment anything that might lift them out of that false serenity.

I can buy a used htc vive for 350€, is that worth or not? Should I just get a quest 2 instead?

>>314438183
but valve doesn't ask me to give them my real name, adress and pictures of myself or my ID

>>314438183
>mic drop
fuck off zuckerberg don't you even dare compare yourself to gaben

>>314438183
Well geez, sorry anon
I'll throw it in the garbage bin and go buy a Quest 2 and make a facebook account then.

get fucked homos

>>314438183
>Valve can delete all of your games too you know
And I'll still be able to use the headset to play pirated games

>>314438252
used htc vive is way better than wonderbrick 2020 and can be used for fbt with the pucks
>tfw even gen 1 headset beats your newest product because you fucked up the ToS so bad
p-preasu, gib zucc the succ uwu, need data to suvive~

>>314438183
you can use steamvr without steam you know

>>314438540
og vive resolution is seriously outdated by now
please don't ignore the reality of spec comparisons among competing headsets

if you want to sell your stocked up wonderbricks for christmas mister zuckerberg you might want to hone your terms of service and get rid of the mandatory facebook and espionage functions off of it

>>314438141
Retard screaming psycho? sounds like pretty much any rando discordbrain at the NA meetups lmao

>>314438252
Buying a used vive is a great idea because they're super cheap and you can upgrade slowly to the index over time. I'm using a vive with index controllers right now.
The only downside is the vive can have some seriously poor resolution but you get used to it after a while and it runs better on older graphics cards.

no one is going to buy a product that you can arbitrarily brick just because thought police reasons, 300 usd for a paperweight is a no no

>>314439117
I've never owned a vr headset, it's why I'm asking if it's worth. Should I just save up for an index isntead?

>>314439202
if you're in no hurry then saving up for index would be ideal, just know that index tends to have shortages of availability because of how popular they are and corona hampering productivity

>>314439012
it would costs another $200 if they did that
>most normies care
terms of service are just the thing you dont read and agree to for most people

>>314439202
I'm biased because I literally just bought a used Vive, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I've been told it's a decent starter headset. The main problem is the screen which has the "screen door effect" and relatively poor resolution, but I've yet to see how much of a dealbreaker that is. What I have heard on the positives though, is that a lot of the components can be used with the Index and later HTC headsets.

>>314439202
If you think you're someone who can really get into VR, then the index is a worthwhile purchase.

>>314439159
Normies will, pic related won't.

>>314432226
The ROI was VRChat being the most effective advertising tool for VR. There's a reason it works so hard on Quest support.

>>314439202
What I've told everyone lately is this:
Thanks to Facebook ruining Oculus, the cheap-range headset is dead and the mid-range headset is relegated to spotty WMR headsets. All that's left is the Index and buying Vives secondhand. If you absolutely must get VR right this second, those are your options. If you don't, wait on it. Something's bound to fill that spot sooner or later.

>>314439432
>300 dollar paper weight vs 500 dollar product that doesn't require bergbook and that won't be used to blackmail and corporate espionage
enjoy competing with the other headsets at 500 but that's literally the only way anyone with sense would throw money at you, throwing 300 down the well by trusting facebook is stupid
>>314439534
>normies will
then why are you shilling your shit product here mr zuckie fuckie? go promote your wonderbrick to normies, oh wait even reddit knows your product is arse, tough luck

>>314439649
>being the most effective advertising tool for VR
I still don't know why no VR developers have tried using VRChat as a means of advertising their game. Might be a thing in the future when VRChat adds more revenue streams by introducing sponsored worlds and shit for exposure.

>>314439690
most people have a facebook account and dont care about being spied on
to them the facebook integration is a non-factor or, at most, a minor issue
personally, i will never buy an oculus product because of it but i dont have facebook and im a paranoid schizophrenic

>>314439862
The first reason is because it doesn't work (Those toothbrush head avatars are from a gamedev company who ported a bunch of their models to vrchat. Most people don't know that.)
The second reason is because letting people run around with your characters can look negatively on your public image. (Example: the aforementioned toothbrush head avatars.)

>>314416980
a little, but you'll be alright unless you're deep in the closet.
Honestly, most of the gay/trannies are usually betas and nothing like the IRL ones that get offended about everything. They're aware of their degeneracy so they're actually easier to be around... if that makes sense.

>>314440078
Don't make avatars then, just make a cool little slice of your game as a world to explore about. This was what Sony was trying to do with PSHome to advertise upcoming 1st-party games, but failed at because no one loads a PS3 to load up a social sim.

>>314439971
>don't care about being spied on
https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/ivrsth/the_new_facebook_policies_gather_tons_of_data/
even reddit cares, check your facts zuckerberg, most people are too fucking ignorant to know they are even being spied on or to know the implications of the data accumulation corporations have on them

>>314438275
They have your payment details, I'm guessing they would most likely include that information.

Stop saying "cute and funny". It's disturbing.

>>314435250
nah, just some cringer whos made half a dozen posts about not liking weekend meetups

>>314440301
Online communities are a vocal minority

>>314440450
then, once again, why are you trying to shill to them then, if you don't need them as your customers why are you trying to push your shitty wiretap wonderbrick to them?

Steam isn't going to lower the price of Index anytime soon, so you're going to have to buy the Zuckerjew or pay for a used Vive.

>>314440364
That's not very cute or funny of you

>>314440391
Just realized this too. Why does he keep on posting about it? Why the holier then thou attitude? Why can't he just keep it to himself?

>>314440450
This.
There's an old rule in gamedev that goes something like "The online community that talks about your game makes up 30% of its player base."
If we assume that 30% talks about the product to, let's say, 20% of people who aren't in that community at maximum, that leaves at least 50% of people who will never give a rat's ass about online drama regarding your product.

>>314440450
Meanwhile a game company will bend over backwards for a single rainbow-haired person on twitter.

>>314440762
either that or just save up for index which is the most ideal, you can also wait and pray that there will be more competition in the headset market that will force them all to cut their prices down a peg to compete

>>314440332
billing information is different as they're legaly required to ask for them for purchases.
Guess you can still go use something like this https://privacy.com/

>>314440301
yeah bro reddit cares so deeply about this
look how many upcummies they gave it
>Lol. That phone you used to type this up, that TV you're gonna watch later, the porn you watch on any device. It's all gathered no matter what you do. Even if you're phone is off.
the most upvoted reply

>>314440887
>your ToS are so bad you can't even sell the product in certain EU countries because they breach privacy laws
what did they mean by this

>>314440596
I'm not him, take your meds

>>314440950
I haven't had a FB since 2010, so if I just make a bullshit one, would it be OK? Or should I still get a used Vive and slowly buy Index parts?

>>314441082
Only applies to Rift S/Quest in Germany where Facebook was trying to (eventually) force users to sign-up with another service (Facebook) for the product they already paid for.

It's part of the reason Facebook dropped production on both headsets to go full steam with Quest 2 with the Facebook account being a requirement from the get go.

>>314441040
>"bro you're already bleeding just let them shank you you can't stop it"
just because it's a uphill battle to let people know doesn't mean it's not worth it to do so
who knows, maybe people will eventually start to give a shit when someone using facebergs espionage products starts blackmailing users with the data they yoink from them
>>314441291
if they believe your facebook account is fake they can arbitrarily brick your headset so i would say save up for index or buy a used vive

>>314441291
From what I heard, they've been suspending "bullshit" ones

Is there anywhere to prirate older beat saber version? Every update these cunts keep ruining the game.

They ruined the haptic feedback and sound of hitting notes and they removed the splashing and cutting effect. I want the old game that I payed for back please.

>>314441374
maybe but considering this writing has been on the wall for over a decade and things have only gotten worse i really dont expect some sudden backlash from the general population
the reality is most people dont give a shit about their data or privacy. When people get locked out of their account because its demanding a phone number the vast majority just give up their phone number

>>314440990
You still need to supply identifiable information to that company due to US law.

>facebook leaks data
>they are under no obligation to let people know the data has leaked
>users start to get blackmailed with the data faceberg failed to protect after gathering it
>faceberg flatout sells your data down the river to seedy corps

>>314441763
he really does look inhuman in that picture, it's crazy

>>314441763
>>they are under no obligation to let people know the data has leaked
Unless you're European, otherwise free money to all Euro FB users.

We're doing it again today
Eric Andre 12am est fuck dropbox edition
1. Drink whenever someone laughs
2. Drink at a recurring joke
I forget the third rule, will post world link when it's up

>"bro what's the worst that can happen?"
>gets exiled from his country of origin for having no no political views that is seen as radical
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

>>314441737
cs.rin.ru

>>314437631
>don't post on discord
>still mentioned in thread
It's not a full proof solution
You also need to not log into VRchat or play any other Multiplayer game to be super sure of not being mentioned.

>>314439202
Quest 2 is very much worth it and top of the line VR headset both in hardware and software as long as you are ok with logging in with facebook.

>>314439862
>no VR developers have tried using VRChat
But there are. Resonance Spark did or was the name Resonark or something close to it. A rhythm game where you clap
They made a demo version of their game in VRchat

Any reason why SteamVR is so behind both Oculus and WMR with regards to desktop usability and features while in VR?

jeez, i wonder who could be interested in buying the data of random anonymous users from faceberg
https://youtu.be/wEBehKCjGTI

>>314442952
They really have no excuse for it being as bad as it is.

>>314442952
>oculus
>ahead of anything

after 4 years they still don't have an inbuilt supersamping option. Fuck em.

>>314399657
>all those literal whos
>all those missing relevant people
Actual meme chart

>>314439649
>The ROI was VRChat being the most effective advertising tool for VR.
I've seen this meme posted so many times; it's not true. Their largest investors are actually hedge funds, not hardware companies, that gain no benefit unless this shitheap starts to generate some revenue.

>>314443305
Read the post, anon. Even when I used Oculus over 1.5 years ago they were ahead of SteamVR in this respect.

>>314442952
No idea and it sucks. I can only assume they're letting 3rd party apps like XSOverlay and OVRToolkit do the work for them

>>314443305
OculusDebugTool lets you supersample.

>Makes your heart skip a bit

>>314443679
>having to use a separate took to supersample

pathetic

>>314443819
SteamVR is a separate tool.

Well, while I wait for my headset to arrive, what are some games you would recommend I look into?

>>314443985
beatsaber, pavlov

>>314443952
You're a tool.

>>314443738
>>314443335
>>314444242
I desire more vrc+ shitposts, the butthurt is delicious

>>314440990
Privacy.com is pretty nice. You can put whatever for the name and zip code on the card and it'll work. The company itself gets your info per KYC laws, but not the company you're paying with the card, so it's one level of indirection.

>>314436510
>what can i do
stop crying about it in the thread? Initially I felt a bit of sympathy for you but it comes to a point where it looks more like a shitpost

We get it, you don't like weekend meets, thats fine, either find a circle that doesn't drink and get loud during the weekend (something EUs are very proud about) or just wait for the weekend to be over

>>314443593
https://github.com/elvissteinjr/DesktopPlus is also strictly better than the default steamvr desktop and it's free, though it's not as good as the paid overlays.

>>314444368
too busy having fun in chillout

>>314441291
if they catch you, youll be banned

>>314445049
I only posted it once before but alright I get it, you won't be hearing about it from me anymore.
There are other ways to enjoy the weekend, hope everyone has a good one.

>>314445123
I fail to see where I asked or care about that

>>314445745
based

>>314445745
>the butthurt is delicious
that's the part where you say you care about the opinions and doings of others

Contractors in 2 hours,
Get the mods here
>>314419949

>>314446040
I asked for shitposts about vrc+, not about you

>>314443750
>makes your brain matter skip the boundaries of your skull

>>314446327
you expressed interest in increased amount of butthurt from random people online implying that you give two shits about what other people think or do behind their pc screens, don't recall anyone asking what your opinion on the vrc+ memes were either

>>314445745
>i hate this game, love to see hate
>what do you mean i dont care about better games

>>314446704
>I want to see more pictures
>What do you mean I should care what someone is doing right now

I need tips for improving my weekend meetups game

>>314446767
>no one asked what the guy was doing
>no one asked what you thought about the memes
>yet here we are

>>314446846
Find the smaller groups
Approach the people on the sidelines

>>314446846
Use pickup lines.

>>314446889
Yes, your autism has brought us very far

>>314447079
i see that you enjoy being butthurt as much as you enjoy seeing it, very sporty of you

>>314446972
just for hanging out and not being an autist
>>314446912
I guess that's one safe way

>>314447174
lmao

>>314446846
I am going to try to talk to someone who also has no idea what to do at weekend meetups!

>>314447487
okay anon, come find me I'll probably be in the corner again alone or with one other person but not talking to them

>>314447487
>>314447672
Can I join you guys?

chilloutvr

>>314447672
>>314448897
We can have our own meetup, with headpats and awkward silence...

>>314449201
Lets do it

>>314449038
Rando free VR.

>>314449038
all these VRChat light games are shit. They'll never compete with VRChat, because there's too much user created content in VRChat. the only way any of them can compete with VRChat is if the get rid of all the game rips and other stolen stuff and just focus on user generated OC with VRChat plus.

what I should make for vrchat avatar?

>>314450178
An eroticute anime girl.

>>314445123
>having fun in cvr
Big bullshit here, I fail to see how you can have fun on your own with no worlds to explore unless you weirdly get a boner over having good fps alone

:o
https://booth.pm/ja/items/2513744

>>314449201
I wouldn't mind that honestly

>>314450178
a ps3 with legs
join public lobbies and ask where you can find games

>>314450526

>>314450526
>implying zoomies and third worlders will understand that

>>314450620
a man can dream

>>314449532
If VRC tries to monetize, they will get dmca'd and fail.
VRC will be the punching bag of lawyers and the media etc. It has no future.
CVR is the future, the smaller games are. You can create your own content, many maps can be ported etc.

>>314450178
Ray Sipe

>>314449201
Sounds perfect! Too bad none of us have the courage to drop a worldlink

>>314451020
Lavender is the future... once it is completely rebuilt in Unreal Engine!

>>314451170
>worldlink
So the normalfags can invade? No. We must find each other by our mutually awkward behavior in game.

>>314451020
>If VRC tries to monetize, they will get dmca'd and fail.
So you're saying it will be f2p forever? That sounds like a good thing

>>314451237
It will never be the future. Some open source VRC is way more likely to happen then lavender.

>>314451237
helios is already a better unreal engine vrchat-like

>>314451337
I said it has no future.

>>314451319
If I was able to approach one of you ingame, then I would've done that a long time ago

>>314451020
It's not too hard to protect yourself from DMCA when it comes to user uploaded content.
You just take it down and you're good.

>>314451514
They have a dedicated playerbase who will buy up vrc+, they may have some rough waves ahead, but they'll easily survive

>>314451319
>>314451812
I would approach you bros, but I couldn't know for sure if you were the ones

>>314451020
>CVR is the future, the smaller games are.
>the smaller games are the future
So you're saying the games nobody plays yet are the future? I guess I can somewhat agree with that, but that also means they stop being "the future" once they get big enough, so what's the point in playing games that currently have no players and once they do will stop being "the future" anyway

viva is the future, only an indie dev with toadyone-level autism has the potential to make a good framework for a social sandbox without it being compromised by financial interests

EU anime club next Wednesday 8pm UTC will be watching Promare!
Let me know if you have any suggestions for the week after otherwise I'll find another movie to show

>>314453758
shame toady turned sjw

>>314447487
>>314448897
Join us in mahjong tomorrow and Sunday!

>>314454605
I can't do saturday or sunday.

>>314454841
I don't know how to play anything other than minesweeper

>>314450367
cute!

>>314454346
I still recommend Zombie Land Saga, it's a funny zombie/idol anime with cute girls, a cute trap and a based producer

Another week with no EU racing.

>>314455307
It shits the bed on episode 3 though

>>314455474
That was the only bad episode though really

>>314411925
Look you're just really weird. The moment you join a world your first instinct is to find a lap to sit on. That's all you do.

my valve index is sporadically getting a glittering pixel effect/popping audio and sometimes steamvr will say my HMD can't connect to my GPU. is this a cable problem?

>>314455871
>The moment you join a world your first instinct is to find a lap to sit on

>>314455410
Maybe on Sunday, like last time

>>314456017
Yes.

>>314456017
Yeah exact same issue I had. Send in a ticket now before it stops working completely.

>>314456017
100% a cable problem. You have the magic sparkles. Get it RMA'd.

>>314455871
I haven't actually seen him sit on a lap in a while

>>314455871
Nothing wrong with some VRball lap sitting.

>>314455871

>When you know exactly what you want and go for it

God I wish that were me

>>314456128
>>314456154
>>314456186
ty guys. i already RMA'd last night but I wanted to make sure it wasn't anything more serious while I waited for it.

wait so the mute wowfag using a uwu cutesy is a redditor too?
what a twist, i wasn't expecting that