/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1298

rip vrchat

>muh rippers
lmao if anything melonloader made it slightly more convenient, it changes nothing for them in the long run

frens

hahahaha VRC is adding anticheat
FUCK YOU modder TOS breaking scum fags
no more custom mod shittery, no more crashing, no more shitty performace avatars with forbidden shader shit
finally i will be able to enjoy a pure and clean vrc experience

Hungover

>"no more crashing"
>he doesn't know

Clientrannies... it's over.

>>393300430
I find it funny faggots here even care if shit gets ripped considering people share paid booth models like nothing anyways.

>no more avatar hider
this is it bros my shitty pc cant run vrc without perfomance mods
was fun playing with you all, goodbye forever

>>393300768
But I paid for everything I use and more.

>>393300776
Just play CVR dude, better optimized, and only like a 20 player userbase.

>>393300754
>VRC is le ebil greedy supercorp

>>393300768
I don't even know why anyone cares, in all these years I've seen one people use a ripped avatar of someone I've never even met and people making a big deal out of it

>>393300776
If you're poor you should be working to not be poor, not playing video games with your down time.

>>393300776
looks like youre gonna have to get a JOB

>>393301172
If you work, you die.

>>393301172
>>393301259
>hurdur just get a better pc
give me an actual reason on why perfomance mods are bad

>>393301415
they just are, okay?

>>393300281 (OP)
i want to pet all of them

>>393300478
cute cat poster

>>393300998
Have you ever shared your paid models to anyone else?

Play NeosVR

>>393301415
You might not know but all mods, even the non-malicious ones, are a burden for creators

>>393301570
Why is the lighting/shaders to terrible?

>>393301570
Why yes, I think I will

>>393301570
Cryptoshit
Furryshit
It's no alternative

>>393301570
unironically taking the furrypill

>lololo should we fix our piece of shit client riddled with bugs lol?
>lol not lets add anticheat that will do nothing except make it even shittier

>>393301570
So true let's go kemono sisters. We should make a separate general for ourselves too.

>>393301542
No, why would they ask me for it when they already get them from assetcords?

Daily reminder that kemono is not furry

>>393301727
deferred rendering please understand
also everything in NeosVR is JIT so you only have the choice of preselected shaders they have built in already unfortunately
>>393301819
both are easily avoidable my friend :)

What about CVR?

ENTER Lavender

This is so sad. Tupper, play despacito.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5YnJ1jHE5PpScbnRT7Zxf3

There is no need to be upset.

>>393301981
Just asking because It'd be hypocritical to seethe at rippers if you'd share paid models around and participate in piracy yourself.

>>393302492
>hypocritical
You see, the word just doesn't go well with me.

>>393302308
Remember a friend shilling it and hating on vrchat for about a week, then he came back to vrchat. Pretty much summed up the whole experience to me.

>>393301570
Chillout VR is the best alternative

>>393302416

start making your avatars compatible with neos because vrchat is FINISHED

RIP my
avatar hider
voice falloff override
join notifier
player list
and honestly I'm happy because the client folks were ruining it for everyone else

>>393302991
>modcucks seething

NeosVRsisters... its time to rise up

>>393303007
>client folks
The devs would just need to find a way to inject through kernel and they can start charging monthly subscription for it.
I give it 2 weeks max.

>>393303407
Sure, when it has content and doesn't run like shit

>>393303748
Make the content you want to see

>For most setups Neos uses a lot of standard shaders with some custom ones requested by the community, if you want any sort of documentation, using this here would be ideal until a more custom renderer is fleshed out.
Hmm, on paper, standardizing the shaders sounds like a good approach.
Why it didn't take off?

>>393304047
no funny meme avatars like vrc

>>393303856
Sure, when there's an audience to make it for

>>393304110
But you can get creative even with basic shaders. It would be even more impressive honestly.

please le uboat this frens
https://feedback.vrchat.com/open-beta/p/eac-in-a-social-vr-game-creates-more-problems-than-it-solves

>>393300281 (OP)
add "friend by friend rerun: august 13th" to upcoming events pls

>>393304171
be the audience you want to have

>>393304251
>Le upboat
Clientniggers confirmed for redditors. Sad!

>>393304047
>>393304235
runs like SHIT
ugly as HELL
UI is FUCK
content is PISS
playerbase is FAGGOTS

>>393304047
they dont actually take in custom shaders requested by the community
the ones that are added don't have many features, and the likeliness of the only toon shader that is actually in (xiexes) has 0 chance of ever being updated
deferred rendering makes everything look like poopoopeepee no matter what you do in return for lighting performance being better (exponentially but honestly its still not worth it)
>>393304904
play it :)

>>393304904
Yeah but we don'T wanna talk about VRC right now

>>393304971
Pretending a problem doesn't exist doesn't mean it's gonna go away. This is why you have so many problems with schizos.

We should bring back Sansar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_PwqeYIMTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5BvOQNMRAk

>easy anti-cheat in a social game
lmao
However I am glad I won't have people I know teleporting to me when I'm in a public just h private room and saying "are ya winnin' son?" or "oh, I'm sorry." Avatar hider mod not being a thing is going to make me even less inclined to join big instances though. Guess I'm going to have to force meets to split every time they get to more than 30 people. No I won't use safety settings, they defeat the purpose of anyone being able to upload any content they like.
>>393303007
>join notifier
Absolute trash. I turn that shit and any UI I can off in any worlds that have it. I'd rather have a mod that specifically blocks that shit than have it on forever. On screen UI ruins immersion and immersion is the whole reason why vr is outright better than flat.

>>393305678
the immersive HUD mod was really nice for that, only activated HUD if something changed recently . Not looking forward to having the mic icon burned into my screen again.

>>393305678
>Absolute trash.
You enjoy wasting time running around instances looking for friends who said they have joined, or friends who may have left?
>immersion
Sweetie, I have to ~hard~ disagree with you here. There is no such thing! There is no true immersion with a weight strapped to your head and pressing into your face.

My portable mirror :(

>>393306665
My mods that have proven themselves to stop crashers :(

>>393306665
My simplification of issues :(

lel

>>393306665
actually gonna miss it, never liked being a mirror tranny at all

>>393307506
chillout-bros, its happening!

>>393306967
shrimplication*

>>393307834
NOOOOO!

I wonder what the actual reason is. They KNOW it doesn't actually solve any security issues.

>>393308079
They must have done some sort of internal discussion and were fine with making some people angry...
I just wonder if the people getting angry are more than they expected.

>>393308079
It's simply overcompensation. The handful of users use clients and rippers, and the handful of users on the opposite end of the spectrum cry foul, and the devs see that and make the kind of sweeping changes that affects all the users except for the ones at the ends of the spectrum. The clientfags will keep using clients, and the people that cry foul will keep staying in their gated, closed off instances. It changes nothing for the either party that the changes are meant to affect.

reminder that $80 million of vrchat's VC funding is riding on vague promises to "create its own digital economy" https://www.roadtovr.com/vrchat-80m-series-d-funding/ . things probably aren't going to get better.

From now on all vrg meetups will be in chillout vr.

It's official. Vrc is done.

>>393307725
We’ll have to go back to using camera as a portable mirror….I-is there a way to have a local mirror on a toggle? Y-yes?

>tupper himself provides the best reason to be against this update
is there ANY self-awareness here?
If anyone thinks they'll actually add any QoL features within a reasonable timespan they're deluded. UI update coming summer 2021 btw

>>393309412
>It'd take like an hour to go buy more tissues so instead i'm just going to cum all over my own stomach right now!

what a cumebelly faggot tupper is.

Hosting a /trash/ meet in CVR right now, DM me for details

A preliminary list of mods for the TES3MP VR server after soliciting suggestions. Is there anything you guys would want to see on the server? The game doesn't use Easy Anti-Cheat, don't worry.

>>393309634
After all this time I finally understand what cumbelly means. And the description is so apt. VRChat is every bit as bad as 2K and Nintendo for going after mods.

>>393309694
not going to add tamriel rebuilt?

>>393309694
Emba-5

>>393308929
it's okay fren, we will add portable mirror into vrchat, just get the vrc+ to use it ;)

What am I gonna do without portable mirror?
I can't enjoy my cute avatar in vrchat at all times anymore?

>>393310115
Isn't the camera just a portable mirror?

drinky tonight..?

>>393308546
People are already making money selling avatars, giving them the option to do that without using external sites doesn't bother me as long as they're not removing any existing features when they do it.

>>393310290
>Hehe let's point out the least of the issues that will be caused to make people who are annoyed look silly :)

>>393310302
It's really fucking tiny.

>>393310374
It's serious business to me anon.

Any apps that have a library of 360 VR videos that are actually good? It seems like every "VR youtube" app just has a ton of low quality shit. All of it compressed as fuck, terrible bitrate, so pixelated it would make JAV pussy blush.

It's somehow both surprising yet unsurprising that VR porn videos are on average higher quality than dedicated 360 VR content channels. I just want some cool shit to show my parents in VR.

Any recommendations?

>>393310337
I can't wait until VRChat removes the option to just upload avatars via unity for free to deal with the security risk of crasher avatars and moves to an entirely pay-based scheme.

Don't pretend this isn't going to happen, the proof is in the pudding.

Now I will die cause my neck is too weak to move my head to look at the menu while laying down.
Remember my death.

>>393310569
Let's be honest, as pathetic as this is, striking the whales is the dumbest idea they could've run with.

they are never going to be mainstream enough to make up the difference.

>>393310569
>coomer btfo
based based based

>>393310596
>the proof is in the pudding.
What proof? The proof that they've not restricted or changed player-content tools in the last 5 years except improve and give us more functioanility?

>>393310569
>"Killing my s3x toys"
>Too pussy to say sex despite spending six grand on coomershit

>>393309907
It's kind of large and I wanted to share the modpack via mega, but fuck it may as well.

>>393310569
Hello, everyone!

I love VRC, but I don't love what you (the developers) want to do with it.
I've already spent over $6000 just for VrChat (computer, HMD, 5 base stations, 6x trackers 3.0 (+4 tundra tracker that should be arriving soon), second pair of index controllers and more)
I`m a dancer in clubs (pole dance), create avatars, recommend VRCHAT to friends...

And you...
Killing my face tracking (vive pro eye + htc facial tracker) (Let's be honest, osc is ***, my eyes move at 8 fps with it)
Killing my s3x toys (l0v3ns3, pishock)
Killing the ability to adjust safity so I have normal fps on events

I'm really starting to hate you.
I think I will cancel VRC+ and advise my friends to do so.
I will also be taking a break from VRC

I hope you guys come to your senses.

>>393310596
Retard, that would actually kill the game completely so no they won't do that.

>>393310786
They literally just proved they'll take the easiest, quickest option to prop up 'security' regardless of the fact that it'll never properly be solved on their end

>>393309412

>>393310903
No it won't, lmao. It's the biggest VR hangout game by a fucking country mile and 90% of the playerbase are questusers and retards who just use fucking pedestal avatars or pay creators to make them 'custom avatars' anyway, only the minority would care.

>>393310801
I assume those words are just blacklisted in the channel.

i never used mods

>>393311302
They only came for the jews, not for me!

Assetto racers, thanks for joining. That was an interesting debugging race. Welcome all new friends!

That little car was sure something. ALL HYPERCARS ARE FUCKING TRASH TRASH CARS, FUCK POSTER CARS

See you in 2 weeks!

>>393300754
Big sad really...
I'm gonna miss my mods so much.
They made playing VRchat a lot more bearable

>>393311365
yes and?

>>393311302
I didn't know there were more mods outside the quality spoofer in Unity years ago.

>>393301053
>runs worse
>better optimized
sorry, no

>never used a client
>never used melonloader
>Spec'd completely into blender and substance painter skills
>all the coomers and annoying dickheads seething
oh yes oooooh yessss!

>>393311712
Madotsuki..

>>393311712
I'd agree with you, but it doesn't fucking matter how good your own avatar is when the 40 retards around you have very poors, you fucking faglord.

Why don't you play an actual VR game for once? Or go outside?

>OVR AND XVR TOOLKITS ARE BANNED TOO
LMAO

>>393311970
Are they really?

>>393311970
Only coomers and scriptkiddies used that kind of bullshit anyway, faggot.

>>393308929
A portable full body cam is doable installed in an avatar but that's so taxing to install on all the avatars you want to be cute in...
My body language game will be gimped by this update

>>393311970

>>393311970
no

>>393312117
>>393312152
So you say, but they've proven they lie in official announcements before.

Remember when they were 'working with modders'?

>kick mamamad once
>they stay kicked
imagine...

>>393311970
Oh thank good. This kills hybrid fullbody rigs now.
If you own a quest, you don't deserve fullbody.

No wtf how will I be able to fuck my avatars now without freeze frame animations mod.

>>393312275
You're a fucking unironic retard if you think this update will actually have positive security benefits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VAi2PY_iWE

>>393310302
>>393310389
On top of being tiny, the camera also can't be turned partially transparent and is 2D instead of 3D unlike a mirror

>>393312383
I'm sad because I used it to take group pictures with my avatars

I don't see many people reacting positively to this, what are the chances they'll end up not going through with it?

>>393311302
I did not use mods for years, but the crashers and bad ui changed my mind.

>>393312593
it'd be too embarassing to do it a second time

>>393310520
There are no good 360 VR porn videos.
This is why we use VR porn games instead.

Learn to love VR porn games my dude.

>>393312275
what about eac stops alts?

So i've spent hours now reading from all sorts of sources. I think some users here in /VRG/ misunderstand who this actually hurts:

This update will only inconvenience A: Coomers, faggots who spend all their time and money and effort towards making sure they can cum harder.

B: Poorfags, retards with Quest 2s or old WMR headsets that need badly coded "QoL" mods to hang out and be annoying towards proper users.

Anyone in the thread having a melty right now is one of the two, so honestly this seems like a positive update.

>>393312253
> Remember when they were 'working with modders'?

They probably are partnering or selling to a big company, which is why they don’t give a shit about community backlash anymore. Something is sus about this update. They definitely don’t care about taking down malicious or wholesome modders just to try and stop modding vrc.

>have vrchat related nightmare
>wake up and the thread is on fire

>>393312275
>this is the current state of anti-mod fags
You don't even know what you're talking about. God damnit. This won't stop actual client fags holy shit.

>>393312827
>/VRG/
go back.

>>393312827
God based.
I hate poorfags dragging back vr technology.

>>393313042
shut it, poorfag coomer.

>>393311712
>Spec'd completely into blender and substance painter skills
>doesn't know that coomers are where the money is
I've paid multiple months of rent creating shit for coomers.

>>393313034
No it doesn't

>>393313058
This, so much this. Poorfags, modders and shitty 'user content' is what's holding VR back and keeping investors and proper tech groups from getting involved.

>>393312827
>reddit spacing
didn't read

>>393313034
Fuck off to your containment site Twitter tourist

>>393313278
>>393313342
poorfag coomers cope, lmao

Does this mean I have to install EAC separately?

well well well, looks like you shitheels won't be able to run your fancy anticrash mods anymore.
next /vrg/ meetup will be a lot of fun for sure!

>>393303007
I will miss voicefall off. I get anxiety by a million people talking and not hearing anything. and portable mirror so I can look at myself during ERP

>>393312114
>My body language game will be gimped by this update
:*(

>>393313614
Okay, poorfags, you can stop larping now. No one cares.

I refuse to run the EAC botnet on my machines

>>393312827
based

>>393312827
the amount of furry pfp in the comments section basically says it all

>>393313614
Unironically I'm quite worried. I've been in a few meets in the recent past where 70% of the instance crashed because of someone joining with a crasher and me and 2-3 other people walk around confused at why everyone is frozen, only to realize we all had the anti-crash mods.

>>393313830
Trying way too hard to fit in. Back to >>>/t/witter/ dumb shill.

WE HAD A GOOD THING GOING YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH

>>393314145
>/t/witter/

>>393312827
ummmmmmmmmmmmm i am neither of these things and this update is a problem for me
sorry but you've been 100% proven wrong
you can just write your apology here thanks ty

>>393313008
>>393312706
Secure Instances

In an upcoming update, we’ll be slightly changing how instances work. These changes are intended to make instances more secure and intuitive for all users.

In the past, if you created a private instance – for example, a Friends instance – then only your friends would be able to join the instance. However, if you created the instance via the VRChat website and then handed that link to someone that was not your friend, they would still be able to join the instance! Similarly, if you created a Friends instance and then dropped a portal to it in a public instance, anyone could see and go through the portal – even if they weren’t your friend.

While this was intended behavior, it has led (understandably!) to a lot of confusion, as well as abuse.

In this upcoming release, we’ll be rolling out an improvement called Secure Instances. In short, Secure Instances (or SI, as we’ve been calling it) enforces the instance rules on the server side when you enter an instance.

For example, in order for you to join a Friends instance, you must follow the rules: you must be a friend of the creator of the instance to join. Joining using a link or the instance ID no longer works if you do not meet the set rules of the instance.

>>393314145
Sorry, fag, /VRG/ isn't for furries, poorfags or coomers like you. Maybe try the trash thread/

>>393314234
Yeah, this'd solve things if so many fucking RETARDS didn't have mamamad friended.

>>393310596
I think this is overkill and won't really work, but all it does is block access to something they've been consistently telling people not to use. Removing the ability to upload your own content would be taking something out they've been encouraging since the beginning and something the game is basically built around, so I don't see that ever happening.

>>393314405
they don't have all the alts friended.

>>393314490
They'll do it. It'll be fine, because CONTENT CREATORS will be able to take advantage of their new setup to sell their proper creations to users.

>>393311059 (Cross-thread)
Yes I recommend it

>>393301570
cant believe its been a year since that screenshot, goddamn time flies

>>393304251
Upboated :)

>>393314682
there is no better time than now to host NA neosvr exploration...

>>393314405
>mamamad
I'd hang out with him.
https://streamable.com/5brz05
https://streamable.com/v5fnyo
https://streamable.com/zynsb1

>>393314405
if CAB can come to meet-ups, so can mamamad

>>393315012
>loud = funny

>>393315348
cab doesnt come to the meetups though

>>393312706
Mamamad has only been an issue with friends+ worlds and invite+ worlds where the link is dropped in the thread. This doesn't help in the slightest. Also none of it is client sided so EAC doesn't enable it whatsoever.

>>393315012
Is that soundboard or is he actually 14 years old?

>>393315436
meant to respond to
>>393314234

>>393315012
>desktopper
>hanging out with k3rn crew
>can listen to mamamads screeching for hours at a time for years and still finds it funny everytime
yo namedrop yourself bro? so we know how cool you are bro? haha we want to give you a /vrg/ cool guy community award bruh just namedrop yourself and we'll send it to you?

>>393315012
my cute Australian gf (female) (bio)...

>>393315649
This is literally the first time I heard about him, I thought he was some kuso stgggs or Sabby clone, or a worse Manlet Tears.

>>393311387
>That little car was sure something
It was still fun, but it reminds me why I hate FWD so much.

MARGARITA MONDAY TONIGHT COME STEAL BEACH BABES

>>393314234
>>393312275
This anime looks cute af.
>>393314405
Time to start unfriending those "friends"

All those Canny posts are hilarious.
Just endless amount of seething fags. If they leave vrchat forever that would be good.
Apparently those mute and deaf fuckers use mods. Good less of them.
Sucks that people will rip their dick out just to have meh mods again, so it wont last long.

>>393316508
>no mods
What’s the point anymore ?

>>393317214
The EAC update isn't out yet.
This actually may be the last MM in this timeline.

>>393316508
It's not the same without him ..

oopsie

>>393317208
>oh thank GOD there'll be less deaf people around
average vrc+ subscriber

>>393317775
Did an eceleb make a video?

>>393317513
I will be live streaming to his covid quarantine hospital room

>>393309907
>>393309983
ty for the recs. Emba-5 and Tamriel Rebuilt conflict, and Emba-5 won the coin toss so we will be heading to Kazakhstan. If nothing else changes this will be the modlist when I update the server tomorrow.

>>393318028
>we will be heading to Kazakhstan
this is why I play vr

>>393317830
Keep seething, cripple

>>393317954
vrc announced it themselves lol

>>393317954
no, they are adding anticheat which will kill mods

>>393300498
>no more crashing, no more shitty performace avatars with forbidden shader shit
Anon I...
I don't think you understand that the EAC anti-cheat thing doesn't prevent those.
Malicious people will sill crash you (even easier now without mods to counter it)
You can't hide people's avatars easily via distance now without avatar hider

>>393318257
someone "influential" has to tell the normalniggers what to think for shit to really hit the fan

First they give me sparkles.
Next they take away my sound.
Then they take away my mic.
Now the headset can't even stay on.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>393317775
they just need to tell Steam support
"we are adding anti-cheat to our product and the script kiddies are review bombing us"
and they will delete all of that.

>>393318547
>damn that many of your playerbase are all script kiddies?

>>393318547
Steam only steps in once the review bombing is due to anything not related to the game itself, such as the devs doing dumb statements
cope

>>393318212
Aspergers is a disability too, leech

>>393318710
imagine if they added denuvo haha

>>393318710
you're the one coping coomscripty

>>393318547
That anti-cheat in general sucks dick where instead of being schizo Gameguard/xingcode-tier trash, it's a placebo that doesn't fix anything unless it's a special version of it like Fortnite.

>>393318838
They have to prop up the creator economy somehow.

>>393312275
There's already workarounds for VRC and the malicious users will use them.
>>393318886
Gameguard is notoriously useless.

>>393318886
The only way to completely stop cheating is to go full china-mode like RIOT did with valorant.
EAC is just not invasive enough to stop dedicated people, so all it will do is kill QoL mods.

Yknow for a game where their main source of income from it is people paying monthly for like 3 features and a badge, you'd think they wouldn't do something that pisses 90% of the community off
But then again I got a ping in discord from a server calling the move ableist so I fully condone it

>>393318886
Fortnite doesn't use a special version.

Show me an instance of EAC not working.

>inb4 apex legends

Others being better than you isn't cheating.

So I got the Quest 2, and while it's pretty amazing because first time experience in VR, it's pretty bad considering
>2 hour battery life
>Shit resolution, so pretty much impossible to use for work

Being wireless absolutely does not make up for these flaws. I feel kinda cheated, my dudes. All I wanted was a comfy VR home, but instead I get a barely legible screen, and gotta charge the damn thing every 2 hours.

The redditspacing nigger is ban evading. Don't even reply to him.

>>393318394
The "influential" people are already freaking out over it, and that's why they're reviewbombing the game.

I do i becum influidtial.?

>>393319515
Make sure you're on the right IPD setting. The Q2 isn't monitor resolution but it absolutely should not be blurry for stuff nearby. Buy an aftermarfket headstrap and velcro a batter pack to the back of it, then you can play for 8 hours easily.

>>393319515
Everyone in the thread tells you to get an Index. You cheated yourself, gov.
You can mitigate the flaws some by going either tether or battery pack and running off PC.

>>393319474
vrc+ is probably just pocket change. I still believe their main income for server upkeep are like the 90 millions of dollars they get from some companies like HTC

>>393319515
Quest 2 has one of the better screens, pixel wise.
Increase the rendering resolution.

>>393319985
Nobody recommends index. Don't lie.

>>393315012
Kyokeru hangs out with Vrg?

>>393319494
It's piss easy to remove it for Elden Ring

>>393320451
This. The first thing I did when I got the game was hack it to go past the 60fps cap. Fast action games like Elden Ring really benefit from being smooth.

Imajin buying an index and getting cucked by cables.
Would be me.

>>393319985
Index is double the cost, and everyone sucks oculus' dick, so it wasn't as easy a choice as it would seem. To be fair, it's a good product if your interest is games and stuff, that's just not what I want it for. I also didn't know it was like a full fledged console, I thought it was more of a peripheral (which is what I wanted).

Does using the wireless connection to the PC drain battery slower, by the way? Where is the rendering done, the PC or the device?

>>393319976
I read that it's actually ok to play with the thing charging constantly, but I also read that it bricks your battery. Wouldn't that effectively be the same thing as using a battery pack / power bank?

>>393320392
I know about that, but my fear is that the 2 hour battery life becomes 1 hour battery life.

>>393320814
Wait are you trying to use it as a monitor replacement and to actually work in?

Don't even bother. VR is not at that point yet. Next gen it might be with how high the resolution/pixel density jump is looking and much smaller form factors. Also you read bad advice of whoever told you a battery pack is a bad idea, they're a retard.

>>393319474
>calling the move ableist
I know I should just stick around my own groups and not care what happens in the wider vrchat community, but sometimes I forget how bad it is and how much I hate the fact that we're playing the same game

>>393319474
>Yknow for a game where their main source of income from it is people paying monthly for like 3 features and a badge, you'd think they wouldn't do something that pisses 90% of the community off
Pretty sure it's just $10 to have an avatar pic above your head.

Don't you guys get it.
They are gonna add the QoL stuff as a feature for VRC+ slowly.

>>393321126
>monitor replacement and to actually work in?
Yeah, that'd be cool. I guess if it isn't there yet then it's no big deal. I didn't want it for that specifically, just thought it'd be "hella based." My main reason for getting VR is making and consuming 3d art. In other words, I won't be playing hl:alyx any time soon.

>Also you read bad advice of whoever told you a battery pack is a bad idea
Nobody told me that they were a bad idea, but if you guys say it's good, I'll look into it. I did see people mention the battery pack usually adds around 2 or so hours, so it would be nowhere near 8 hours, but maybe that's if I'm playing games through the device instead of the PC? Or were they just bullshitting?

>>393319515
Buy a $20 20,000 Watt battery pack and attach it at the back of Q2. Be amazed at how you now have 10 hrs of battery span

>>393314234
>>393312275
i need to watch this anime

>>393321880
>making and consuming 3d art
Do you mean porn?
I will admit I haven't experienced everything there is to experience, but nothing beats VRChat erp currently as far as VR content is concerned. I still prefer 2D stuff for porn over 3D.

>>393321617
They can't event stop the crashers with the update.
Photon crashers are a thing and we had anti-photon bombing mods.
Now they're gone and photon client fags can more easily crash your game.

>>393321880
Those straps with the "built in" battery packs only add an extra 2 hours and are overpriced shit. Get an external power bank for 15-20 bucks and you easily get 8 hours.

Working in VR is just a dumb idea right now and not going to do much for you. It's a simple novelty at this point. And if the Q2 is blurry it's probably because your local network sucks dogshit on wireless and so the image is getting compressed to hell. Go wired.

>>393322402
techlet here
is this true?

>>393322402
based based based
Once these fags crash all the ERPers, Questies, and casuals out of existence, we'll just have the enthusiasts and creators left.
2017 KINO IS BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS!!!

>>393322371
>Do you mean porn?
No, like sculpting, virtual worlds and stuff. Also want to get into VR game dev. I just think it's a really cool way to consume 3d art in general, and I hope we see more sort of "3d painting you can walk through" style software in these coming years, I think people are starting to warm up to the idea.

Also porn is based too, of course, I hope we get a lot of that as well.

>>393322623
I noticed their 5m USB-C to USB-A cable cost 115E. Thanks for the advice.

>>393322402
post more screencaps from the bot discords, i want to see how happy they are

>>393312253
OVR etc don't interact with VRchat directly and EAC doesn't treat them as anything. Those are completely seperate SteamVR applications running in background.

Pavlov and Onward don't care about them either.

>>393322649
yea, why wouldn't it be? Go look at the source of any photonbot, none are reliant on melonloader or the likes but are self-contained and rely on vrc api and manipulating memory

>>393322402
Wtf is a photon crasher or photon bot?

>>393321361
That's his point. Their only income is based on the goodwill of users, who pay for symbolic useless feature, but really they pay just to support the game they love.

>>393322972
Get a cheap third party cable. It's perfectly fine and infinitely cheaper, does the same stuff. No need for the expensive one.

I hope you got a decent GPU to push up the resolution.

>>393323595
>Their only income is based on the goodwill of users
You ignore the sponsor money, as well as the couple mill they got a year ago. I don't really think they depend that much on vrc+

>>393323560
They send signals within a map to everyone in the instance to overload your connections. It's essentially sorta like DDOS. This is because VRchat has no internal check on their serverside to be able to limit these signal requests.
We had mods that allowed you to limit the amount of requests from any given thing.

>>393323752
You mean investor money who expect returns on their investment?

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Mods 六四天安門事件 The Great Pug protests of 25.07.2022 天安門大屠殺 The Easy Anticheat Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Modders Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Cheat Forward 文化大革命 The Great VRSnoozer Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Lavender 自由 ChilloutVR 獨立 Melonloader.dll 多黨制 FavCat.dll 台灣 臺灣 VRChat Yacht 中華民國 NeosVR 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 達賴喇嘛 Photon Bots 法輪功 AdvancedSafety.dll 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Black Cat Region 諾貝爾和平獎 linux-zen-eac-bypass 劉暁波 Virtual Machine 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 IKTweaks.dll 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 ScaleGoesBrr.dll 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 ViewPointTweaker.dll 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 Notorious Client 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘 Finitizer.dll 拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Cirno 劉曉波动态网自由门

>>393323845
>expect returns on their investment?
I don't believe that vrc+ is enough to return any investment

Repostin (and update I guess)

Basically I am throwing together a GFL theme event around late August/September

Here's my collection of GFL assets if you want to kitbash stuff onto your avatar or becum the T-doll. I also have the SKK Beret if wish to Chad-ify yourself
https://mega.nz/folder/Za5mWIgL#KNJNx3CW81BqZWP7mcwKNg
For those of y'all who REALLY want to be blender wizards and go all out (just this once), here's the ENTIRE list of T-dolls
https://iopwiki.com/wiki/T-Doll_Index
Alternatively if you are lurking this thread and have NO IDEA how to make avatars this world has some nice GFL avatars although they are SDK2 avatars. Still pretty good though.
https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_bfdcf611-7283-49ad-8a4d-15608bd5d994

I am going to SEE IF I can make pic related for the world. I don't plan on going full retard and try to landscape a valley since I'll bet you 5 bucks there's a way to do it without having to pour autistic amount of hours sculpting one or committing to a difficult import. I will have to figure out the radioactive flowers part though but if there's a smart way to do it rather than a hard way I'll see how to get there. Worse comes to worse and nothing is made we can always have this event at the Springfield Café though I'd rather not for reasons.

I am up for ANY suggestions for activities but for now I plan on making joke props from the game/thread greentexts and throw in some "party game" assets with some GFL flare added to them.

I don't want to through out dates since this is a big "I dunno lol" in terms of time, planning, and implementation but I want to say late August or September for now. At the moment it's just me alone tackling the world creation and activities tasks but any help from volunteers would be a super big help.

Seeing the clientfags and modders literally seething is starting to convince me EAC is the right way to go.

Erotic
Anal
Cucks

>>393323757
Ah ok, another failure of the devs then.
They must be aware of this shit, and should implement server side code to limit such stuff as much as possible, then add EAC last thing they do.
Now they just slapped on EAC, like it would do anything.

what the fuck is going on??? what's with the anti-cheat!? and their were mods for VRchat???????

>>393323905

>>393323905
Amazing lol

If you guys wanna continue using mods, then just buy notorious. They’ll probably find a way to bypass EAC. Meap.gg

>>393323980
gun girl military theme?
maybe organize some pavlov and contractors?
some gun girl anime movie nights?

>>393323905

>>393322402
>kneeling to a dumb skiddie
lol

>>393300281 (OP)
Is there a source for finding like game model rips and shit?
Trying to get help making a player model for a game. If I can find model rips of shit it's easier to rig

>>393324491
oh never mind I found a qrd. that stinks

>>393312693
That's not what I asked at all. Reading comprehension.

Koma and Tupper sitting in a tree

>>393324892
https://www.models-resource.com/
there was some ruski site that was better than this but I don't remember/know if it's still up, this one's kind of shit because they have a "community" that vets all the models people upload and declines 90% of them after waiting a month

>>393325105
Woops. There are some high quality 360 videos playable from youtube directly if you wanna try those.

>>393325161
P3dm.ru or something, should be on google.

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Mods 六四天安門事件 The Great Pug protests of 25.07.2022 天安門大屠殺 The Easy Anticheat Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Modders Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Cheat Forward 文化大革命 The Great VRSnoozer Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Lavender 自由 ChilloutVR 獨立 Melonloader.dll 多黨制 FavCat.dll 台灣 臺灣 VRChat Yacht 中華民國 NeosVR 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 達賴喇嘛 Photon Bots 法輪功 AdvancedSafety.dll 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Black Cat Region 諾貝爾和平獎 linux-zen-eac-bypass 劉暁波 Virtual Machine 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 IKTweaks.dll 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 ScaleGoesBrr.dll 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 ViewPointTweaker.dll 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 Notorious Client 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘 Finitizer.dll 拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Cirno 劉曉波动态网自由门

>>393324892
deviantart add xps or mmd to your search

>>393325265
cheers

>>393325157
What do you think the months of preperation was?

>>393325431
ERP with kids in Friends+ instances

I wish I could join you guys in vrc... but because of how my mods look I can't

>>393324719
>tfw the girl's frontline anime watch went from 10 people to barely 3
I'd hope this idea goes better than the tard wrangling we tried to do

>>393325494
this is actually true.

>>393325647
it's a shit game and shit anime
if you want to do an event or theme you need to make it more inclusive
girls front line only will get you barely 3
a anime girls with guns theme where you get to go full girls front line will get you most of vrg participating

Is this something you still need to do or can I skip it?

>>393326041
It should be fixed now with the IK update.

>>393326136
great, ty

>>393325431
look >>393312913
month of prepping can only mean that they got acquired or enter a big partnership with something.
I don't think it is meta/facebook, but I don't know... an announcement like this would be the cherry on top.

>>393294669 (Cross-thread)
Walking is soon

>one month of prep
>all you get is a "we'll add the quality of life we promise"

hey!!

tuesday's movie is Everything Everywhere All At Once
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6710474/

the REAL multiverse of madness

starting at 19:00 UTC as usual!!

>>393325647
>>393326036
Can we watch Gunsmith cat? I'm due for a rewatch.

>>393326036
hey now that wasn't very nice

>gatchashit anime
>good

>>393327027

>>393327047
Uma Musume anime was peak KINO.
I pity anyone who hasn't seen it yet.

>>393327265
Watched first season and dropped second season after 3 episodes.
Confirmed that Kino is not even a noteworthy compliment.

>>393312913
>>393326326
Yes, something smell, and EAC looks like a knee jerk reaction to investor complains.
I don't think it's facebook either, but who would buy VRC? Or partner with them, while being dumb enough to think the free EAC would remove issues?

>>393323528
>why wouldn't it be
idk mang im a techlet

>not thinking the devs and tupper and ron are simply retarded and actually sniff their own farts enough to believe this is a good idea

It's not some grand conspiracy. The team that runs VRChat has always been laughably incompetent with incredibly stupid decisions that they have to keep walking back or apologizing for.

>>393327949
What's funny is the actual client users that use malicious shit are still going to keep doing what they're doing. That Kon is going to be crying when they still keep getting crashed after the update, now more-so than usual without anti-crash mods.

>>393310313
bro its a Monday, wait until the weekend

reminder that this changes nothing and all your whiny bitches will shutup within a week

>>393310313
Cheers!

>>393327949
My malicious client just updated to work with EAC, namedrop yourself so I, can consistently keep crashing you

>>393328121
You're quite optimistic. Can we still use QoL mods you think?

>>393326718
We watched it last year... So I'm in need for my yearly rewatch

>>393327649
Epic buying out vrchat

I've never used a single mod for VRChat, yes I am laughing at you right now, no I don't care what crashers and script-kiddies do

>>393328458
I'm gonna pay you $100 to start making funnier bait.

>>393328219
ryder

they banned the melonloader dev lmao

>>393311816
Madosexy...

>>393328938
Damn... how can he recover?
Can't he just make a new account and reupload all his stuff there?

>>393328432
Was entertaining the idea at first as a joke lmao.

>>393328458
same

>>393326589
https://vrch.at/9ds0n7wg

>>393328938
source?

>>393328938
source?

>>393329583
>>393329586
no, unity

>>393329583
>>393329586
https://twitter.com/HerpDerpinstine/status/1551709209691148289
VRC banned him a while back, they reversed it and apologized
Now they did it again because they think no one is looking

>>393328938
What the fuck is going on

>>393329583
>>393329586
See pic related

>>393327027
based? I love gelato now?

>>393329783
>>393329760
Kemonosisters...

>>393329783
LMAO BYE BOZO

>>393329783
lol good that faggot force kicked me back when people were still able to do that. all because he thought i was in some vrc gang for some reason, even though i would never be in that cringe shit.

>>393329783
rip my bHaptics vest
and after all the effort he made porting it to OSC

>>393330045
You sound like you deserved to be kicked

>>393329456
>Dodge rolling a dark souls boss
Nice

>>393330110
cry about it tranny

>>393314160
kek

>>393325157

>everyone hopping to ChilloutVR and Neos
I wonder how long this is gonna last

disabled furries btfo

>>393330879
lmao

>>393327027
based gman

>>393330838
If VRChat digs their heels in and says "no fuck you EAC stays eat our dicks" then I could see CVR actually pulling in huge numbers in the thousands this weekend. If they can ride that momentum this could be their chance to actually be a competitor.

>>393331038
CVR servers are actually dead from all the people hopping on it right now, clearly they were not prepared for the storm.

>>393331038
I would love to see VRChat get legit competition. It's succeeded in spite of the pants on head retarded developers and all their dumb decisions, not because of them. It was the first social VR app to truly be around and thus it got insulated against most competitors which cropped up long after it from sheer inertia.

>>393329783
>herp derp
uh sisters this is pretty ableist...

>>393331038
Their little servers will be dead long before 2k+, The devs weren't about to announce anything big and this came completely out of the blue

>>393331137
They'll have a few days to prepare at least. Also are you sure they're dead? Did they like just die? Cause steamcharts reported nearly 500 people playing 12 mins ago.

Any kemoners in the chat

>>393330838
If Neos manages to break away from the retarded cryptoshill CEO and put out a proper SDK they'll stomp VRC into the dirt.

>>393331445
Furries are hated by normies, good luck even getting the TDA thots to migrate into a furfested shithole. Not even those people want that.

>>393331518
>normies
go back to twitter, normalfag

>>393331351
They went poof at about 230 people then they slapped the server and it's running 'okay' right now

>>393331620
I don't know what you're even trying to imply, but I do not own a twitter account.

>>393331518
Furries are mainstream dumbo

>>393331518
All you need to attract normalfags to Neos is to show them the shitposting potential. It's what got them into VRC, and Neos has way more avenues for shitposting just due to the way the scripting system works and how you can spawn new objects and program them on the fly.

>>393330879
>Harming the disabled
Oh no, Tupper will come to my house and break my fingers! Is talking about how shit EAC is as an anti-cheat is in general not sensationalist enough?

>>393331784
Neos will always be bad unless they first fix the SDK to be able to upload STATIC optimized maps and avatars through unity.
And two making some ability to make your items and avatars private.

>>393331776
You can keep repeating this as often as you'd like, you will still get kicked from instances.

>>393331784
the video player shitposts alone could easily go viral
https://twitter.com/RucioDonk/status/1547226219875373056
>>393331948
>And two making some ability to make your items and avatars private.
that already exists, you can set an avatar to be unshareable

>>393323905
Hearty chuckle

>>393314682
>>393314865
The neat thing is nothing has changed in Neos since then so nothing's been missed.
Years of "development" with nothing to show for it aside from moving from one shitty UI to another shitty UI.

>>393331518
Their issues go far deeper than a bad ceo. The "dev team" has been more interested in gay yiff orgies than working on features for years now. It's a lost cause.

>pov: you're tupper

>>393329456
That's pretty cool, kiddo. Are you rolling on the floor?

>>393332191
What has his response been so far aside from condescendingly telling people they're prepared for the backlash or whatever?

>>393332156
>Their issues go far deeper than a bad ceo. The "dev team" has been more interested in gay yiff orgies than working on features for years now. It's a lost cause.
t. cryptoshill
neos devs have been far more active than VRC devs when accounting for the difference in team size

>>393332321
that's about it desu

>>393332318
yep

>>393332395
think they fell about
is frooxius even still involved?

>>393332321
Tupper probably has no say on this decision and he's doing his best to be the sacrificial sheep cushion for the vrcdev's decision.

Ganbatte tuptup. Please survive with your sanity intact. Always remember it's the dev decision that is shit not you as a person.

what a great way to promote chill out vr

>>393332395
You're calling that poster a cryptoshill, while also defending Neos.
Do you know how fucking dumb you sound right now?

>>393332584
>is frooxius even still involved?
he's still been making commits on his github, but has otherwise been fairly quiet
unlike the cryptoshill CEO who keeps making more and more people hate him lmao

Neos is fat fucking garbage and has not seen major improvements in key areas for the past years. The game's design philosophy is flawed. Neos ain't it. ChilloutVR is a better alternative if nothing else.

>>393332321
they seem to have given up
people discussing alternative platforms in the open beta discussion and such unmoderated :^)

guys would you pay 120 Bucks for vrchat mods?

>>393332589
Y'know, I get that he's the messenger, and it's not like it's his fault, he probably didn't have a huge say in this, but every time one of these fiasco's happens he always manages to respond in the most condescending way that doesn't really do much to calm the situation down.

>>393330879
>harming the disabled
shut the fuck up holy shit. sometimes /vrg/ can get pretty bad but then you see shit like that. still don't like the modding ban but jesus christ

>>393325431

>>393332851
>he always manages to respond in the most condescending way that doesn't really do much to calm the situation down.
Actually you make a good point. He needs to get better at his job at actually calming the community down and connecting with the communitiy's concern not just being an enforcer/protector of the VRCdev's will.

>>393319494
Rust lol

>>393332686
literally nobody who actually plays neos likes or defends the crypto shit. the devs themselves don't want it there but they're in an ongoing struggle with the retard cryptoshill ceo who keeps trying to push it in. the only people who engage with NCR are moronic /biz/niggers who don't even own a headset

>>393332961
Some of the mods were for assisting the deaf, hard of hearing, etc, and they ran with it. It's fucking stupid but it's not like they are completely making it up.

>>393332961
>>393330879
>>393331840
The guy on twitter isn't wrong, though. This update will fuck over anti-epilepsy/CC/other accessibility mods. "Harming the disabled" is a pretty faggy way to put it but if it gets a fire lit until the VRC teams' retarded asses then go for it.

>>393332395
There's been literally no dev activity for nearly a year now. Even before then nothing noteworthy had been pushed since the UI update in 2019.
The much awaited physics engine amounted to jack shit. Outside of the odd bug fixes and adding shallow hooks to his shitty spaghetti logic script what the fuck has he done?

>>393319494
Not only does it not work for Elden Ring, it kills performance and is the cause of the conctant multiplayer disconnections

hilarious how entitled people are

>>393333262
>There's been literally no dev activity for nearly a year now.
froox has continued to make commits to the github, as have the other devs. they've gone silent on communication because they're in an ongoing effort to get control away from karel's retarded ass
https://github.com/Frooxius

>>393333259
"Hurting the disabled" not only feels faggy but super edgy and offensive. A better way of saying it is asking why VRChat doesn't have accessibility features like that to begin with and that they have to use mods to implement them.

>>393319494
Xenoverse 2. Turning EAC off is as easy as changing a line from true to false.
EAC sucks and it's easy to get around

>So then what's the problem? Just make the QoL mods everyone wants to bypass EAC if it's so easy
That would depend on the people who make the mods to do that, and most of the big ones like emmVRC already have the devs saying no, we're not doing that because this shit is ridiculous anyway

The malicious mod makers on the other hand will bypass it though (pretty sure they already have according to some screenshots here) so this whole thing solves nothing.

>>393333259
I'll roll with this when when I start sock puppeting against the game. Thanks anon.

>wojackfag
filtered

>filtered

>Don't worry bro we'll add in the functionality that we removed with this update
>Well obviously we can't just wait until we're done to strip out mods because it's going to take forever to replicate the lost functionality.

they had to do this because of the HBO special investment whales

>>393334142
>we PROMISE

>>393334142
>literally gives the best reason for people to be mad about EAC while defending EAC

>>393333886
>being happy about other people being mad is my personality and i am soooo hard right now

>>393332842
you mean $100.
get fucked EUcucks

>>393334738
me but unironically

>>393334738
the tears of crashers and rippers is balm for my soul
the rest is what we call "collateral damage"

>>393334738
>>393334857
Me too

Is Decentraland still a thing

>>393334881
>the tears of crashers and rippers is balm for my soul
you mean the people who only benefit from this update, retard?

>>393334142
Yeah, this is the worst part about it. Kinda dumb to take away all the quality of life and promise to add it back in when everyone knows how slow the vrc development cycle is.

I'm cancelling my VRC+ and I'll resub once they've added all my quality of life back :^)

>>393334881
You have it reversed in this scenario though.
Actual crashers and rippers are barely inconvenienced.

>>393334952
how can something be such high and low quality at the same time???

>>393334963
Why are they seething so much if they benefit from it, though?

hey vrg i was wondering which mods are most popular

i made a poal and i put down some of my personal favs. what mods are most essential for you?

http://poal.me/va7od0

here's some facts about easy anti cheat
1 it's dog shit
2 it's constantly bypassed to use modded clients in full priced proprietary technology games put out by billion dollar companies with always online servers this thing is primarily a peer to peer interface running on fucking unity
if the groups determine that there's money to be made they'll pick it up like any other game

>>393335047
the crashers/rippers literally aren't the ones mad. the ones mad are the ones who were using beneficial mods. crashers can still run avatars that nuke the world with exploit nonsense, this changes nothing about that, and rippers won't get detected by EAC because they just go off of cached shit and never interact with the game itself

Can't wait for a week to pass and see all the coomers come crawling back

>>393310746
This. Killing your biggest whales is how you die and get a permanent stigma. There are countless gachas that have shown what happens if you do. Don't bite the hand that feeds you. They're going to backtrack on this most likely consider how big the outrage is. Just look at when Steam/Gaben introduced paid mods and the community and whales all joined to shit on them to reverting the change. No way a small team like them will be able to handle this if a giant like Valve couldn't

>>393333089
Letting le ebul crypto bro run your company for 7 years and only making an issue of it when the erc20 shitcoin you packaged with your game brings in millions of funding is beyond retarded.

>>393333554
>github activity
Good chunk of that is him literally uploading old dead projects from high school.
>other devs
You mean the video tutorial maker and discord moderators? Or the graphics fag that thinks melty AO and vaseline smeared post processing are peak visual kino? Wew.

>>393335035
hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of paid assets

you can rip avatars and worlds with asset studio up to what appears to be near latest version of unity and shaders most of the time with utinyripper

Anyone know if VRWarrior still works with the new MW5 DLC?

>author hasn't updated the mod in almost a year

>>393335473
>and only making an issue of it when the erc20 shitcoin you packaged with your game brings in millions of funding is beyond retarded.
they're making an issue of it because the cryptonig CEO was holding one of the dev financially hostage you fucking pajeet

just dont use mods

>>393335047
Crashers crash with avatars
Rippers rip from the cache
you can literally do both without mods lol
why would they be mad

if anything now you won't be able to block crashers with mods
enjoy getting crashed by me kid

>>393335580
Try asking in /vrgg/ if you don't get a response, your post might get buried with the vrc discussion right now.

>>393335645
I don't use mods and I'm uninstalling the game after this because EAC is basically worthless malware that will slow down my machine for no benefit whatsoever. It will do nothing to stop the problems the devs claim to want to stop, and the friends I have that DO use mods will be moving to another platform, so I will no be playing VRChat any longer.
Simple as.

>>393335591
>financially hostage
Yes this is a completely real thing and not made up cope.

>>393335649
>>393322402
>threaten to crash the game if the EAC goes live
>b...but we aren't mad we swear!
seethe
and
dilate

Hello trannies,
With Tupper officially dabbing on everyone, it seems particularly foolish to continue the on week/off week NA Pavlov pattern we've had the last few months. As a result, Pavlov will be played this Friday at midnight EST (Note: 1hr earlier than usual) with an alternate maplist: SND will be on the backburner (but still substantial, albeit on more esoteric maps) with other gamemodes making up the majority of the selection. With people likely continuing their righteous crusade unless VRC backpedals, we should have a solid turnout and it should be a good time.
Naturally, be drunk, its Friday night Pavlov.

Current gamemodes are, in order of magnitude: 8 SnD, 3 Push, 3 prophunt, 2 CTF, 2 infection, 1 TDM, 1 gungame, 1 one in the chamber, 1 king of the hill, 1 clone of SCP:Secret Lab, and 1 Halo custom game Duck Hunt
Note: No Hidden, No TTT: I'll gauge interest but if there's enough, a second Pavlov lobby will get hosted the following Saturday with a smaller group that'll introduce those gamemodes, as they're relatively controversial and it only takes one or two bitchy faggots to ruin the entire lobby.

>>393335649
>Crashers crash with avatars
*hides your avatar*

>>393335454
Look at them ignore it and weekend population coma back to usual amount.

VRChatters have nowhere to go. CVR is a discount VRChat with even worse optimisation and less features. Neos is laughable, anything else doesn't even get double digits on peak hours.

Poeple will complain, updoot and but stay in vrchat.

>>393335775
>/vrgg/
Huh? That's what this is.

>>393335836
>Yes this is a completely real thing and not made up cope.
what do you call it when the ceo of the company refuses to pay an employee but DOES pay for their housing/food bills
because in any developed country, pajeet, that's a fucking crime

>>393335871
Ah yes, i'm sure you can select them, go to their details and hide them before the thing designed to instantly crash you can crash you.

>>393335937
Nah this is /vrg/. /vrgg/ is another general dedicated solely to non-VRChat games, so you might have a better chance at getting your answer there if no one answers you here.

>>393335937
Sorry mate, only room for being angry at VRchat right now. Try catalog search

>>393335865
based
SnD trannies will be seetheing tho

>>393335878
I can only assume that VRChat already did this analysis and realized they could really pull it off.

>>393335865
say it to my fucking face, faglord.

>>393336043
>get crashed once
>well that person is instahide from now on i guess

>>393336056
>>393336048
How long has this been a thing? Is there a thread war going on?

>>393335127
It wouldn't even be the first time EAC is bypassed in a VR game. Pavlov uses it and has/had public hacks for speedhack and ESP. It was implemented to prevent the laughably easy use of cheatengine (you could literally just start it up and press the speedhack button). Thankfully they're rare to see ingame but if VR was more accessible to poorfags and third worlders I think we'd see more cheaters.

>>393336231
2 or 3 guys decided /vrg/ didn't talk about non-VRchat games often enough, so they created a self-fulfilling prophecy by creating a second thread to siphon away all the non-VRchat game talk.

>>393336231
>How long has this been a thing?
Off and on since around February of this year
>Is there a thread war going on?
Not really? Sometimes we'll get a few shitposters trying to start a flame war about it every now and again, but most people either don't care and still post their non-vrchat content here, or browse both threads.

>>393336231
Not a thread war silly bugger.
It's the same community just needing a few other threads for categorization of things to talk about.

1) /vrg/ - Free for all VR discussion (SFW)
2) /vrgg/ - Games only VR discussion
3) /vrlg/ - Lewd and social VR discussion (NSFW)

It IS a thread war.
There's no reason to make a two different threads for shit that doesn't get much content, and /vrgg/ is afloat only because of the sheer autism of its creator.

>>393336185
They could make avatars pay 2 upload and nothing would change.

VRChat due to size, content amount and feature completeness can do a lot of bullshit until people actually start to leave.

>>393336231
Local retard trying to split the thread. Ignore and continue posting vr discussion here.

>>393336569
>/vrgg/ is afloat only because of the sheer autism of its creator
Sounds like a based person

Business idea: bill avatar uploaders per megabyte
pro: money, more optimized avatars
con: weirdos will complain

>>393335997
When did he refuse to pay exactly? I remember them trying to play that card but it turned out he had invoices for everything and they had to change their story to it not being enough, or them not liking him setting development milestones, or him not hiring one of the devs because they were a coomer. Pay is not an issue it was "treatment around pay" they keep saying.

>>393336386
>Off and on since around February of this year
Hello, newfag.
/vrgg/ is the second iteration of gaming only vr thread.

>>393336569
Anon you are way too invested in this shit.
Just enjoy that we have multiple places to post our VR things in 4chan that allows for better categorization.
Or are you saying you want /vrlg/ stuff to be here in /vrg/?

>>393336569
Is it really a war when one side is like "eh whatever do what you want have fun dying again in a few weeks" and most lobbies still get posted here and not there anyways?

Like it's stupid and has no reason to exist but I've just never found any reason to care about it. /vrg/ still has more game lobbies posted here than there. For most people there's just no reason to go over there unless you're talking about really specific and niche VR games, or when the thread is all about VRChat and your non-vrchat post might get lost in a sea of VRChat. That's like the only two things it's good for. Otherwise it's just topshrug.

Apropos of nothing, anybody have good theater world recs for shillout vr? Their servers are rejecting making new instances right now making it kind of hard to explore.

They’re going to push this update out on a Friday afternoon aren’t they? :(

>>393336953
My dude, having a a single thread that can't even get near bump limit before dying is not an iteration of a thread, that's just an aborted fetus. /vrgg/ has been the only non-vrchat split-off thread that has lasted anywhere close to this long.

i heard vr chat is getting hacked can any confirm nor deny

>>393337213
I think the genius of /vrgg/ is it's naming sense as it pops up with me searching vrg in the catalog.
Allows me to just comfily open up both threads easily.

/vrg/ vs /vrgg/ pavlov when?

>>393324605
>literal shilling of paid skiddy products

>>393335865
I'm joining and voteskipping every non-snd map

>>393324605
lmao get the fuck out of here

>>393336818
>still seething 6 months later
Rent free.

>>393338064
>I'm joining and voteskipping every non-snd map

>>393338026
>>393338302

no

Gentle reminder that the best way to get someone to listen to you is to stop paying them. When they implement EAC, I'm going to cancel my vrc+ subscription and I encourage you to do the same!
I won't resub until they implement all of the quality of life features that are being removed.

>>393338473
I don't visit /vrgg/. You do, just to shitpost and shout at people. You seem more obsessed than me, bud.

>>393338671
I'll just not play :^)

>>393338671
>v-vote with your wallet!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>393338671
wow something I finally disagree with yuru on

>>393335865
NOOOOOOOOOOO wtf you cant do this to me my 2000 hours of practicing s&d on dust 2 and inferno are gonna go to waste VOTE SKIP VOTE SKIP VOTE SKIP VOTE SKIP

>>393338671
Wow thanks for sharing your opinion mommy and including a pic so we know it's you

>>393338671
Whoa that's my mom!

>>393338671
mother has spoken...

>>393338703
>I don't visit /vrgg/
Only because you are still ass blasted.
It's obvious that most regulars have both threads open. And the best thing is that every one is happy like that, except (You), so it clearly worked out in the end.

>>393335127
UUUGHHHNNN PATCHY FOOTIE UAAAAAAA

>>393339198
Don't like keeping 4000 tabs open, simple as. You're putting too much mental effort into all this, why do you care so much? Calm it down.

>>393335865
>Note: 1hr earlier than usual

>>393339325
You started it by insulting people for nothing, don't try to backpedal now.

>>393339345
Your fault for being in the wrong timezone.

>>393339345
up the shut fuck you fucking neet

>>393338874
you're welcome
it was my pleasure

>>393339428
Different poster.

>I rely on a feature that I only get through modifications. What should I do?

>We understand that many modifications provide users with features that they really wish they had in VRChat by default.
>Many of these features are things we’d love to add into VRChat – some have even been planned for years! However, developing something like VRChat is a challenge, and involves a lot of prioritization, triage, and sometimes putting things on a backlogged list that you really wish you didn’t have to.

Ah yes, im sure you've been planning shit like a portable mirror for "years" but it's just too much for you to get done in that timespan because you're SOOOOOOOOOOOOO busy.

>>393339748
Also earlier in the article they say

>Finally, we’re aware that many legitimate users install modifications to add features they wish VRChat had natively. We're very aware of the popularity of these modifications, and we’re aware that EAC means those modifications are gone, too. As such, we've been working towards native implementations of features like a main menu that's usable even when you're lying down, a portable mirror that you can use to calibrate your full-body tracking (or provide a face-cam), and more – all planned for upcoming releases.

So you're removing these features right now due to stopping mods, but you're going to going to re-add them later, but then you go on to talk about how you have shit planned for years that you do nothing on. Why the fuck would anyone believe that VRChat would release these features any time soon then?

>Anti-cheat EAC has massive CPU overhead
it's over...

>Too many account new account registrations today
>Please try again tomorrow
neos KEK

>>393339945
this screenshot tells us nothing, there could be a number of reasons why one client is running worse

>>393339945
Who asked, poorfag?

>>393338671
>voting with your wallet meme
it never works

>>393339945
Thanks for letting us know.

IVE FUCKING HAD IT!

>>393340304
worry.jpg

>>393339748
>>393339940
ah yes
I'm glad they keep putting the quality of life to the side so they can overhaul the UI every six months.

>>393340304
this image really hurts because back in '92 my great aunt Mary had her back broken terribly in a tractor accident now she may never see the beach again. her one comfort while living as a disgusting invalid was escaping reality through VR but she could not afford the valve index

>>393340304
>pole

>>393339945
>from 18% to 73%
jesus fucking christ this is going to unironically nuke 90% of users off the platform
i'd say based but a lot of my best friends in vrc are semi-poorfags who play at around 70fps tops...

>>393340579
This sounds like an AI-generated post.

Why didn't the VRC developers just whitelist a handful of quality of life mods until they can come up with a replacement?

>>393339748
>>393339940
and don't forget the best part: they literally acknowledge that they have no realistic timeline or ability to replace the functionality that's being removed

I find it funny but not surprising that most of the clientrannies are actual trannies. Gross fucks use anime girl avatars and clients to ERP and groom kids, yet expect us to have symapthy for their fat 30 year old balding asses. At least there is a 41% chance that the issue will self correct, or that AIDS or Monkeypox will claim them. If you have any "friends" who are pro-client, be very wary around them.

>>393340770
They can't detect what mods are running.

>>393340837
>tupper trying this fucking hard to damage control on a chinese pottery board
go back to your discord, retard

>>393340770
they arent actually interested in your QOL anon. They just want to nuke mods. Its the first move towards having a more closed platform, which allows milking users for money way more easily.

>>393340770
or just actually work on features people want and made mods for because the devs are so fucking slow and incompetent in the first place

>release EAC open beta
>skiddies use it to make new workarounds and highlight what was missed
>patch these in on live


all according to keikaku

>>393337631
I don't have time to play with myself.

>>393340837
what a bizarre post. Even the most anti-tranny person I know in /vrg/ still uses mods, no idea who would unironically post this.

>"The hackers can just remove EAC anyway to continue griefing!"
Why not just remove EAC yourself as well and keep using your qol/accessibility mods?

>>393340907
Theoretically, they can. EAC has access to kernel.
But they are incompetent, so in the end you are right.

>>393341096
Because the qol mods aren't made to circumvent them.

>>393341063
there are long-standing vrc dev inner circle sympathizers

>>393340734
>>393339945
Reminder this might be a disingenuous parse though. It's still fun to post
Hope it's not actually real

>>393341096
Because good boys and girls probably have to dig into the dark corners to do that. It also kills modding momentum and makes the barrier of entry higher.

>>393335878
My man bigger companies have tried similar things and failed from EA's Battlefront 2 to Valve and their paid mods. There's a certain point where you pissed off the community that there's no going back. EA was forced to remove their micro transactions and even got fucking some countries to start looking at new gambling laws for video games. Fucking Valve had the perfect situation with them dominating the PC game market and look what happened.

>>393341347
>barrier of entry higher.
This modding barrier to entry are raised to the point that you need to know how to kernel or what ever the fuck advanced programmers do.

>>393310290
I'm thinking a local only physbone posable mirror might be a temp work around.

>>393341096
The people who run the QoL mods don't want to do that, they're fed up.

>>393323757
that's not what they do LOL

>>393341418
It does help that this is the second time VRChat has gotten anal, and the pushback got them to reverse course last time. I am kvetching more than I did back then as I know that kvetching actually works on Tupper and co.

>>393341749
That still necessitates the annoying process of installing on every avatar you have though.
But if someone can make it drag and drop like the amogus follower prefab it would alleviate it a bit.

>All this butthurt
>Only 16k updoots on the main complaint thread

Lmaaoooo, that's fucking nothing. Millions of people use VRchat. Literally a drop in the bucket.

>>393326979
just my personal opinion sorry
everyone loves girls with guns though and the character designs in girls frontline are fantastic

pypy time, come pypy

link:
https://vrch.at/wa0ck7ym
or join on yuru

>>393342101
vrchat is trending on twitter and it's all complaints

>>393342124
Why does mom have "JUICY" written on her shorts??

>>393327027
hooooly based

>>393342101
>Millions of people use VRchat.
lol, lmao dude

>>393342101
>>Only 16k
anon if even half of that are VRC+ users then that's $960,000 in yearly revenue they just lost

>>393342546
drop. in. the. fucking. bucket.

Just bought a year of VRC+. Glad the devs are making these fucking virgins go outside.

all things considered this helps alleviate my one reason to keep windows around :)

The great touch grass'ening...
How will this effect vrchat's future, VR's future and twitter VR's communities future when all these neets, losers, incels, trannies and furries are forced to go outside and touch grass.
Increase in monkeypox cases?
More American incel mass shootings?

>>393342757
just cancelled my 15 vrc+ accounts
sorry bro you're a drop in the bucket

>>393342839
based

>>393342839
I'm never going back anon
I'll yiff the furries in neos first

>>393342740
>a team as small as vrchat's willingly throwing away nearly a full million in yearly revenue
>drop in the bucket
Go home Tuppers, you're drunk.

>>393342757
>>393342928
i piss in your faces :)
i tug down my pants and urinate in your faces :)
my hot piss straight from my bladder all over your little faces :)
the pee will tinkle down over your eyebrows and into your eyes and down over your nose and dribble past your lips even if you keep your mouth closed :)
Hot, steaming piss, deep yellow (I won't drink water for days before I piss) :)
imagine the smell, all over your hair and in your pores, all over your face, my pee straight from my penis all over your faces :)

>>393342740
not that anon but people handing money for vrc+ can give more confidence to investors that people give a shit about their platform
of course how much this matters depends if vrc actually uses their subscriber count as leverage for appealing to their investors or not, so its up in the air on whether this matters at all

>>393343146
n-no whatever you do doesn't matter so please don't cancel your vrc+ account
we are a super b-big p-powerful company and w-we don't care if you sub

>>393317775
dump it

>>393343258
h-hot....

>>393343262
>real tongue
creepy

>>393342101
>>393342740
Do you think VRChat is some mega company triple A studio or something?

Facebook won.

>>393343334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ibtxti5Raw

I hope everything will be alright. I don't really have a strong opinion on mods but seeing everyone's reactions and talking about leaving reminded me that I actually like this game.

>>393344118
>23 trans flags response to a post about hackers

uh?

OH NO NO NO NO NO

Coinfess

Just backpeddal already please

im drunk
happy margarita monday

>>393344385
I buy Booth avatars and accessories if there was no dump for them.

>>393344478
Isn't this what everyone here does though?

>>393344323
j-just a tiny drop in the b-bucket
n-nobody cares, j-j-j-just give up and don't cancel vrc+

>>393344385
I confess, I piss all over your face with deep brown ripe piss. :)

What worlds are retards going where their PCs are being hijacked and ddosed?

>>393344385
i honestly don't give a shit about how your avatar looks like it's all about personality babyyyyyyyy

>>393344439
Should i get drunk tonight?

>>393344385
I posted those robot booba pics months ago and I'm still not sorry

80% of the posts in favor of EAC or making fun of people mad about EAC have been me false flagging to make the 20% minority who actually feel that way look worse.

>>393344935
It's time to let it go anon...

>>393344865
Black Cat, Great Pug, the movie worlds and McDonalds are all I would target if I were to ddos and hijack a bunch of geeks, troons, hood kids and children.

>>393344865
VRChat has awful security and you could have your shit fucked at any moment by anyone who cares. The devs made a mistake by poking the hornets nest.

>>393344909
True; I will heavily judge your personality more if your avatar sucks, though.

>>393344935
You can't do that in VRChat anymore, they are banning mods.

>>393344478
>>393344668
Share the goddamn invites already.
I've wasted like 500 buying booth stuff already...

>>393344323

>>393344385
I like friendly furfags over faggot with a booth model.

>>393345213
It's open invite now, you just need to buy something the owners want and give it to them to get access to the downloads.

>>393345149
yeah i mean as long that it's not a pedestal and it looks half competent you're good enough desu, shame to that newfag who posted pics without even fixing his clipping a few thread back

>>393344935
no save it for next monday

>>393344935
>>393345150
i'm getting on to drink right now. cheers see you there!

>>393345213
You think I would have spent 300$ on Booth if I had access to one?

>>393345150
But alcohol isn't a mod...

>>393345250
What about furfags with obscure booth models?

>>393345459
Friendly furfag faggot

>>393345436
You. Can't. Do. That. In. VR. Anymore.

>>393345406
I've become a paypig...
>>393345304
Alright, just share the server then

I never knew so many people needed mods to play VRC

>>393345684
Why

>>393342220
why don't you?

>>393344385
I haven't reinstalled Blender or Unity since getting the new PC running, and I'm dreading getting back into the flow of avatar work, despite having a laundry list of fixes and additions to do...

>>393345716
>>393345705
Deep, thick, brown urine from a week of not drinking water, pouring and slipping over your forehead, down your cheeks, over your chin and drip drip dripping onto your chest :)

>>393344385
margarita monday never happens on a monday

>>393345882
>>>/trash/

>>393316556
If only they grew a pair and fessed up when asked.

There is no need to be upset.

I am currently, hitting the griddy, for VRchat mods

>>393310569
what the FUCK is pishock

I have a confession to make. I was raped by mamamad. They used a client to keep me locked in place and I couldn't log out just like the hit anime sword art online. He started fingering my butt with his boney finger while shouting the national anthem to Australia in my ear. I passed out because their volume blew out my ear drums but when I woke up, I was naked and covered in tears and cum.

>>393347026
What's lovesense and pishock?

>>393314405
if they're friends with k3rn and they sound like a dumb enough simp to believe mama is female then they have mama friended

>>393347193
pishock is a shock collar, it's a kink of some people

>>393347386
Should work with OSC right?

>>393347539
>trusting a shock collar to fucking osc
llaoooomllaoal!

>>393347386

>>393347630
>trusting a coomer's diy shock collar on your neck in general

if you really want to do damage, make osc scripts that contain malware. Since osc is allowed but not mods, there's no way you could do something naughty with it, right?

sounds like a great way to have even less rights
can't you just pipebomb the mailbox like a normal schizophrenic

>>393348094
behemoth already tried and got arrested

>>393310569
>Killing my s3x toys (l0v3ns3, pishock)
I hope they don't backtrack!
I hope they don't backrack!
I FUCKING HOPE they don't backtrack!

>>393310569
>I will also be taking a break from VRC
Cya tomorrow!

Reminder that mamamad possesses cp and uses it as fapping material

how are some of these people are able to survive in the real world lmao

>>393342124
>JUICY on sweat pants
mega boomer detected!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeZZr_p6vB8

>>393348839
desu they're not wrong

>>393348839
Most people with issues survive the real worlds by having things and places they can relax in when not out in the real world :)

>>393348839
but tics are super cute tho...

>>393348839
why do you think they're in vrc?

>>393348839
>>393349014
>qol mods
EAC doesn't stop people from using mods. Where did this hysteria come from? The worst that happens if your mod isn't updated for a few months.

>>393349256
>EAC doesn't stop people from using mods. Where did this hysteria come from? The worst that happens if your mod isn't updated for a few months.

Yes it does you absolute brainlet. The way every single mod in VRChat is implemented will explicitly be stopped by VRChat.

>>393349256
mate you could just read it right from VRChat's press release. The only people willing to get around EAC right now are malicious client creators.

>>393349256
you need a modded client to use mods
EAC stops the modded client
this is a move done explicitly to block mods

>>393349392
>ah yes, this will stop me from getting crashed by photon bots and malicious avatars

>>393348981

>>393349427
>>393349392
>>393349357
if EAC is so easily to circumvent by the bad mods, what exactly does hinder the good mods from doing the same?

>Hello everyone!

>There appear to be several false copy-pasted messages being passed around in VRChat-related Discord servers claiming that there is currently a "data breach" or that "a group of hackers is going around VRChat stealing personal information", or some variation.

>We have not detected any such breach, and no such group of hackers exists.

>Please do your part in stopping the spread of misinformation and do not repost these false messages intended to cause fear and confusion.

>Thank you!

>>393349427
>>393349392
>>393349357
>"First, I'd like to apologize to everyone that read our statement and took this to mean there will never be mods in VRChat. That was not our intention and will try harder to keep an open dialogue with the community. Second, we have no intention of making VRChat a package software. We are working with multiple transvestites to clean up the grooming process and developing a mod store where we can put the best mods forward without exposing the community to unsavory characters as best we can."

>>393349256
The fucking announcement straight from the devs says it'll block mods, retard.

>>393349757
as per owlboy:
>we maybe sent a few messages back and forth

>>393349670
>Too lazy or afraid to do so
>Afraid they would get banned as griefers will be left untouched
>Pity

be careful guys, headsets exploding an shiate

>>393349670
>what exactly does hinder the good mods from doing the same?
Some of the creators of the really big popular mods don't want to do it because they think the whole situation is ridiculous and they don't want to spend a bunch of effort in learning how to bypass EAC.

So... the hack raid is a lie, right?

>>393344118
P-please do not log off vrchat
P-play our game
B-buy vrc+

>>393349757
>>393349896
It's funny they had to put this out because their wording in their own fucking press release is so fucking alarming.

>>393349878
>Headsets exploding
I'm getting on

>>393349961
>THERE ARE N-NO DATA BREACHES OR HACKERS
>In the announcement they put out earlier today, they said that thousands have their accounts hacked every single month.

Which is it, VRChat?

>>393349670
This marks a shift in their policy. A few months ago they told people not to worry and that they wouldn't ban them for using quality of life mods and that they would look for ways to incorporate the quality of life mods into the game before doing anything further.
Today, they're putting in anti-cheat to block mods without having a single quality of life feature ready, because as tupper stated, adding things to the game is really really hard.

They will definitely ban you for bypassing the anti-cheat.

>>393350087
Stream it live.

Not enough fuck-around-and-found-out streams since they're always one shots.

>>393350121
people getting their own data breached by using avatar hider :^)

>>393350121
>thousands of monthly hacked accounts
Jesus fucking christ! I better cancel my VRC+ and remove any payment details!

>>393349896
>>393349878
Unplug your headset NOW

>>393349976
>it alarms us that people are stupid and will install things on their computer!
>proceeds to make it so everyone must install Easy Anti-Cheat, owned by Tencent to use their platform