/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1300

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Kill yourself furfag

>>393442632
I don't get it

>>393442271 (OP)
LOL!

https://twitter.com/Skell_E_Tonne/status/1551808612330360833?s=20&t=PU9oQClgxSQQN3X9xd8DDw

funny chilaxin

>>393442924
what vrchat world is this?

>>393442848
>>393442632
Excuse me, I think you have the wrong general. /xivg/ and /mjg/ are elsewhere

>>393443006
he doesnt know...

Prepare your anuses. Things are going to get EVEN MORE a lot worse.

>>393442271 (OP)
yeah bro totally

>>393442907
emmVRC's Community Manager here. The information presented in this video is not accurate. Tupper's user ID shows up as connected because someone spoofed their ID when logging in to the emmVRC Network in the past. Now please stop spreading misinformation, thanks!

>>393442907
holy shit this is too funny

>>393443381
Chillaxin doesn't support questlets.
You can keep them

So VRChat is really going P2W ?

didn't use mods
will never use mods
will continue laughing at both sides being so incredibly assblasted at a nonissue
:^)

https://youtu.be/1S_OuK-hXxw?t=413
>they tried to recruit influencers a week prior

>>393443467
No proof. All cope for the new update. Tupper defenders in shambles right now!

>>393442924
fuck, api keeps dying...

WE HAD A GOOD THING YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH
We had investorbux. We had a community support. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, pretended to work and made as much money as you ever needed. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your ARROGANCE and your EGO. You just had to "save the game" from modders. If you'd sat back and done nothing, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.

how is modding a burden for creators unironically
like thats so doublethinky its not even funny

>>393444135
>it brokey my mappy wappy :'(
-zarniwoop

>>393443467
https://twitter.com/HordiniVR/status/1551959024677142529

>Anon, it would be wise for you to install ChilloutVR or else.

>>393442271 (OP)
>Kanna Gang & RagingVoice finally getting the last laugh with VRChat finally crashing and burning

The work is done. They won.

>>393444529
kek

Good day commander.

you're a birthday star at chuck e cheese
you're a special guest we all aim to please
you're a bigtime bigshot going far
here's to (you) our birthday star

>>393444302
>>393443693

>>393444497 (Cross-thread)
see
>>393442929 (Cross-thread)

>be blind
>hop on vr
i mean...yeah?

>>393445132
i could be wrong but there are varying degrees of blindness, right?

>>393444529
muh blue board

https://twitter.com/i/status/1551720268359503874 wew

https://www.oculus.com/blog/meta-quest-2-pricing-changes/
Quest 2 prices are apparently going up at the beginning of next month.

>>393445632
One of worst handling price increases in history

Continuing with the 2nd Kabaneri recap movie tonight at 10PM EDT. We'll wrap things up with the sequel movie next week. I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

>>393445461
>melonloader at the end
kek

what's the gist behind converting my avatar for use with cvr? I am a huge brainlet when it comes to unity and would like a retard's guide if possible

>>393445632

>>393444459
i fucking hate furries i will never succumb to the furry menace

What's a good phone?

>>393446004
An anon said he was going to make a tutorial. Let's wait and see how it goes!

>>393443656
every time i see helping hands mentioned i get a sick feeling in my stomach
The first time i worked up the courage to join one of their events they kicked me and didn't tell me why
and every time i made a deaf friend to practice sign with they went and joined them and kicked me from their world and didn't talk to me
i never find out why but the deals acted like i knew
and this was when they were only about 100 users

i hate helping hands. they made my anxiety worse not better.

>>393443467
>someone spoofed their ID when logging in to the emmVRC Network in the past.
How would that even work?

>>393445836
Yeah, it's not like Meta is really hurting for money or anything, you'd think it would make sense to keep the cost the same.

>>393443656
So does this guy basically dicksuck the devteam the entire video for this and call it a great decision and the userbase is wrong or?
That's the impression I get from watching a little bit of that timestamp.

>>393446447
There is just better ways to handle it, and Zuck decided to just throw massive pile of shit on fan.
It's like killing his metaverse dream speedrun

>>393446621
It's Thrillseeker, he's going to say the most non offensive "both sides have points" thing every time.

>>393444670
Happy Birthday!

>>393445836
>>393446447
Some leakers have suggested that the real cost of Quest 2 is $500 so it makes sense that at some point they might have to cave on the MSRP if they were forced to, which they might be depending on shareholders. Plus it might play into their strategy with Cambria and Quest 3 anyway so might as well get it over with.

>>393446762
I got more of a "something should be done about mods, but this is just not the right move" vibe from it

>>393446447
>Yeah, it's not like Meta is really hurting for money or anything
Haven't they lost actual billions on VR so far? They're rich as fuck so they can take it yeah, but investors probably aren't exactly happy about seeing billions of dollars lost every year.

>>393446828
>Some leakers have suggested that the real cost of Quest 2 is $500
Nigga, no fucking way.

It's over
A new era begins
Why didn't they listen?

>>393447018
So basically, "both sides have points" just as I said

>vrchat catches on fire
>local cvr shill materializes once more

>>393447098
it has working linux video players
in proton...

/vrg/ be like:
>My fellow redditors! We must join the resistance against the evil VRchat empire, led by Lord Tuppermort!
>Downvote the game on steam and make anti eac memes! This will convince the billionaire VRchat shareholders to capitulate to us!
>It's like we're the Avengers fighting Thanos!

Nah, eac will affect nothing and actual VR chat players will keep on having fun every day. Touch grass.

>>393446828
Quest 3 won't release anytime soon. Cambria hardware leaks and the price increase on the Quest 2 basically confirm that. I doubt they'll be making much on Cambria either.

>>393446621
>>393446762
god I love him so much
such good content
You can tell that he is a very critical voice and definitely not one of the "influencer" who say "This is the best thing ever" to every 2nd item they hold in their hands.

>>393447098
I have heard nothing but bad things in terms of migrating from VRC to Neos with the set-up process involved.
>>393447273
2/10 bait, i'll give a (You) for your efforts

>>393447273
You better start learning how to have fun with questies, my guy. Soon they will be the only people you will meet.

>>393447273
>i enjoy it when a game i play enforces anti consumer practices
how's that corpo cock taste?

>>393447463
>learning new thing bad

>>393447067
Supposedly losing billions every year for the past few years. I can't imagine this would make enough of a difference to matter though.

>>393447098
Bro?!

>>393447538
It is if the set-up process is bad. I'm not going to jump through a bunch of hoops to learn something archaic.

>>393447617
it automates a lot for you, reading docs to know what to maybe rename some bones to would get you like 90% of the way there
then its just like adding your jiggle boners from what I recall
and ofc you can live edit it in vr which can be both a blessing and a curse

>>393447290
>Quest 3 won't release anytime soon
I mean if it was then they wouldn't increase the price at this moment. It's more to slowly change the price expectations and perception people have for VR. Meta's original pricing strategy was always hugely risky and unsustainable if things didn't go perfectly. Things did not go perfectly.

>>393447098
>>393447567
>BY GAWD, WHAT IS THIS!?
>IT'S CVR AND NEOS STRAIGHT OUTTA HELL!
>THEY'RE BRINGING OUT THE METAL FOLDING CHAIRS!

>>393447324
To be fair, if being an influencer was my job and I was in his position, I'd treat it like a job too, I.E. "Just shut the fuck up about what I actually think and do the thing that would lose me the least contacts and get me the most money".
Luckily, I would never pursue being an influencer as a career path where I would have to do this because I would literally rather go back to working at a convenience store than having to put out regular videos where I dickride sponsors.

>>393447617
the only truly scary thing in Neos is the awkward UI.
You can tell they didn't have an UI/UX designer on board. It is basically coder making UI for other coder. Once you get the very basics it gets easier, but I agree with you that the learning curve is somewhat steep because of that atrocious UI

>>393447273
haha me too i don't really care about anything we're both cool touch grass lmao

>>393447917
I don't know man... The people who raked in the patreon money are usually the ones with an honest voice.
Once people doubt they can trust a reviewer, they're seen always as bought, no matter how honest they are after that.

So why Neos as opposed to CVR? And vice-versa?

>>393448032
is this map from anyone important or is it a literal who

>>393445416
Yes, you can be "legally blind" but still see kind of ok

Will Easy Anti-Cheat ensure my vrfu stays faithful?

>>393448117
>I don't know man... The people who raked in the patreon money are usually the ones with an honest voice.
True, but sometimes those same people have to do raid shadow legends advertisements just to pay the bills, and I'll bet those same people would rightfully never touch that game in a million years, raid's basically youtuber welfare cause youtube's sure as shit aint paying their creators properly.
>Once people doubt they can trust a reviewer, they're seen always as bought, no matter how honest they are after that.
That's going to happen no matter what, I've been called a shill for liking VR at all in the past even though my love for the medium is genuine.

>>393448032
Wait, K is a creator?
What exactly did he create?

>>393448131
Except for a few anons here and people who stuck around with those games, I think nobody can truly compare.
Log in, usee a free avatar and take a gander what is and isn't your cup of tea

>>393447809
Makes sense I guess, but that strategy did work as far as market share goes. I just don't think they have a good plan for what to do next. I don't see price increases helping either when you've already sold plenty of hardware and you're losing part of your appeal. It's not like we're talking about small losses here.

>>393448131
I've always been curious about neos since it kinda tries to be it's own thing

So what I'm seeing is that there's 500 alternatives that people who don't like eac spread out to when they should gather on a single one.

>>393448442
It's not K, that avatar is public.

>>393448849
>500 alternatives
more like 2, one for autist programmer furries (Neos) and the other for just autists (ChilloutVR)

>>393448131
If you think VRChat performance and QoL is bad, Neos isn't even an option. Chillout was a mess last time I tried it too, but it's at least more straightforward to port over VRChat content. Unless it's improved significantly since then though, I don't really see it being a good alternative either.

>>393448849
There are literally two, and from what I understand one is trying to be VRChat (CVR) while the other is kind of doing its own thing with its own features (Neos)

>>393449091
>more straightforward to port over VRChat content
Seems like cvr is the clear winner here.

>>393449105
>forgetting Lavender
Fine then. Keep your secrets.

>>393449440
i miss it i miss it i miss it i miss it i miss it i miss it i miss it i miss it i miss it i miss it i miss it

Even if everyone does eventually run back on to VRChat, this should at least be a good morale boost for the CVR and Neos devs to keep working on their game.
Competition is good instead of one game with a shitty dev team that has a monopoly over the genre. I really don't want VRChat dominating for the next 10 years with zero acceptable alternatives.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZErRjmKY_w

>>393449440
I didn't forget about it.
Everyone else did.

reposting
Hello trannies,
With Tupper officially dabbing on everyone, it seems particularly foolish to continue the on week/off week NA Pavlov pattern we've had the last few months. As a result, Pavlov will be played this Friday at midnight EST (Note: 1hr earlier than usual) with an alternate maplist: SND will be on the backburner (but still substantial, albeit on more esoteric maps) with other gamemodes making up the majority of the selection. With people likely continuing their righteous crusade unless VRC backpedals, we should have a solid turnout and it should be a good time.
Naturally, be drunk, its Friday night Pavlov.

Current gamemodes are, in order of magnitude: 7 SnD, 3 Push, 3 prophunt, 1 CTF, 2 infection, 1 TDM, 2 gungame, 1 one in the chamber, 2 king of the hill, 1 clone of SCP:Secret Lab, and 1 Halo custom game Duck Hunt
Note: No Hidden, No TTT: I'll gauge interest but if there's enough, a second Pavlov lobby will get hosted the following Saturday with a smaller group that'll introduce those gamemodes, as they're relatively controversial and it only takes one or two bitchy faggots to ruin the entire lobby.

heard your tranny "game" will be taken out behind the barn so I came here to laugh at you

>>393449856
that's a weird take on the situation, where'd you get that news?

>>393446035
Zuckerberg's furry

>>393449279
Between those two yeah, but I'd still pick VRChat over either one at this point.

someone on Kijiji(craigslist) offered to trade me his rift cv1 for my headset and stand im selling priced at 110CAD. is it worth getting? I have a beefy PC. and do I need to use the external sensors at all times? even if im just using the headset on my chair? i imagine id get tired real fast setting it up. wasnt really too interested in VR but I thought it would be a cool toy to use if I can get it at a good trade

There is no need to be upset.

>>393450220
my dumbass forgot it

Wow the thread sure is moving fast. Anyway while ya'll are shit postin' and what not. The lead dev is doing-- yeah I'm not shocked honestly... they deleted their tweets. Not sure why they thought it was a good idea to post it in the first place...

frens

>>393450032
Neos and Facebook Horizons merge when

>>393450220
>>393450446
I don't think it's bad at that price, but I dunno how well supported the CV1 is these days. You do need the sensors at all times though, the headset and controllers can't tell where they are without them.

>>393449983
/v/

>>393450478
the patch isn't even out yet

>>393450505
anon
I'm sorry
It's not you
It's because of how your avatar looks

you only set up the sensors once and you just keep them in the same place you calibrated, that's it

I fucking hate the CERN collider I fucking hate the CERN collider I fucking hate the CERN collider

>>393450661
go back

>>393448698
You can definitely start raising prices in general after having captured market share.
Meta probably doesn't have much of an option and was forced to make this play.

>>393450714
When's it coming out? I can't wait for the degens and furries to fuck off.

>>393445632
Right when they remove the facebook requirement that totally wasn't offsetting the low price by selling your data

>>393451238
announcement said within 24 hrs, but blog says few days

>>393451328
>thinking they won't sell your data under a Meat account
oh no no no

>>393451442
hi bart, I'm data

>Meat account
this has a nice ring to it, I'm using it from now on

>>393450478
How are these people so fucking tone deaf?
Between this and Tupper the response so far has quite literally been "lol u mad bro?"
Fucking insane.

>>393451624
>they prepared for months
for a buyout

>>393451205
Sure, but I'm not sure it's worth bad PR and potentially losing some sales when you're not making as many hardware sales anymore. No idea how much they're actually making on software per headset, but I guess not enough to matter. You're probably right that they don't have much of an option.

>>393451624
vrc got bought likely or is getting bought and they are buying time before firing everyone and collecting check

>>393451365
So Friday, I guess

>CVR takes off and competes with VRC

Could it happen?

>>393451624
You wouldn't do shit. They know it.
Even if you leave it would be just easier for them. They would be happy if their customers are nothing but braindead cattle.

Is it finally time to post this again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUFWXpYJKaI

>>393446407
emmvrc doesnt check which id you feed to it.

>>393452074
looks like it

>>393451205
Who would of imagined... selling something at a loss well makes you lose money

>>393451923
I don't think so. Not anytime soon.
Best case scenario is that the ~600 people stick with CVR for a longer time and become basically the first generation of that platform.
Ugandan Knuckles or similar will most likely not happen again

>>393451328
I'm sure they were selling data even before a Facebook account was required. Other than them going back to having the same amount of data they had when it was just an Oculus account, it doesn't change much of anything.

I'll kunckle you.

>>393447519
learn phrases before you use them

>>393451923
It's not happening this time. They might have a shot if it becomes a good enough alternative before VRC makes some even bigger mistakes though.

>>393452224
>Ugandan Knuckles or similar will most likely not happen again
We, can, make it happen again brudda

>>393450220
Nah, the sensors are legit a PITA. They are prone to connection issues because of how much bandwidth they use. The lenses and screen resolution are also not great by today's standards. Just grab a Quest 2 instead. Those can be found cheap used as well

kek

please tupper, kill vrcx next
cringe stalkerware.

>>393453732
That'd be great, if VRChat just keeps doubling and tripling down and goes full scorched earth on everything.
Accelerate the fire, kill the game faster!

>>393453732
mods were never allowed, api always has been

>>393453780
blue hair faggots like you leaving is the best thing for the game.

>>393453864
you were never allowed

>>393453905
I don't have a twitter account, we were already over this yesterday shitposter-kun. Please get new material.

>>393452967
I dont know man, it does seem like a good deal, what if I just want to watch porn and play sim driving games? can I use just 1 sensor Infront of me or no?

>>393451939
>They would be happy if their customers are nothing but braindead cattle.
What if most if not all the content creators start leaving?
What would those brain dead cattle feed on?
They can't forever just be mirror dwelling with their vrc+ subscription. Forever just in blackcat and nowhere else.

>>393453864
their api was what gave rippers free content kek

>>393454593
who do these people think make content for their game

>>393451923
That'll be for the best imo.

Been putting off categorizing and organizing my avatars to be fully future proof. This'll be a good opportunity to do so.
Just so it's easy to port them to any arbitrary unity based metaverse
It's really illuminating to see that the metaverse as it is right now is not any single game. It's the multi-player sandbox known as Unity
The game engine is the real one here. The likes of VRchat and CVR and even NeosVR are just server shells for hosting

>>393450721

>>393454678
no game is unrippable

>>393454590
you say shit like
>shitposter-kun
and
>kill the game
so yes, your forehead grease is making your quest 2 smell like curdled onions milk and your hair is blue as your mums pussy lips

>>393454794
not unoptimized booth fats with mods

>>393454910
yet they claim EAC is to stop muh rippers
funny temp files downloaded to your pc in the meantime :)

>>393443198
mines always prepared

>>393455667
Can I use it?

>>393455757
not until my mods work again

i dont want everyone to go away bros

>>393456067
too bad

why are the vrc devs so fucking stupid?

>>393444459
I have never sexed someone in a Loona avatar and that makes me upset, everyone that used it was just being ironic and oh so funny, not actually downt o fuck

>>393456134
A question we have been asking for as close amount of time to this general's inception.

why are they even doing EAC anyway? is it to stop people from ripping avatars?

>>393456067
See >>393454797
>The likes of VRchat and CVR and even NeosVR are just server shells for hosting
>the metaverse as it is right now is not any single game
The better we manage to get content into other alternative platforms the healthier VR will become.

Arrange your avatar/world folders and proejcts in a way that it is easy to port into any arbitrary Unity-chan hosting shell servers

>>393456067
Only irrelevant people will leave. I will laugh when they come crawling back after this weekend

>tfw 20 krystal fbx files spread over 10 folders on 2 HDDs and no memory which is the right one

>>393456642
I want one

>>393456345
to kill mods. The reasons they give are excuses, they know it wont stop rippers/crashers.

>>393456642
good scatter them to the wind never to be found again

>>393446004
https://www.vrcarena.com/assets/cFbqmfFgpzJkGPN2JEBo

Works fairly well. Just make sure to remove underscores and spaces from the variable names in your Animator and AvatarParameters settings before converting else your toggles won't work.

>>393456642
My plan to be able to organize my folder is to export the avatars and their scene file first into their respective unity package with all the dependencies they need.
This will allow you to have all the necessary stuff to then shuffle into a nice folder later in a new project.


I'll make a video on how to do this process later for everyone.
IMPORTANT: BACK UP YOUR PROJECT!

>>393456345
It won't stop ripping since that's more of an API issue. The only reasons I can think of is:
1. Preparation for a buy-out
2. Launch of an in-game economy
2. Make the game marketable in China
4. Pressured by Meta to keep it on their storefront, and potentially Sony for a Playstation port

>>393456345
>>393456730
yup, it's to stop people from using mods
It's hard for them to monetize features if they don't kill mods now. Here's an example - they're selling avatar favorites slots in vrc+, but there are mods that do that too, for free. Some of their investors are highly interested in virtual currency and would like to use vrc as a platform to expand on that.

If they want to expand monetization, they need to kill mods. They've really let the problem grow too much already, the backlash would not be as widespread as it is now if they'd killed it months ago.

why don't I see more vidya furry waifus it's all the same oc shit

Hey guys and gals, DabMeUpGamesRedpillVRCTTV coming at you with another reaction video this time we check out my reaction to Easyanticheat (argggggg! not again!) ruining another fan favorite: VRChat!

>>393456345
It's to prepare for monetization.

>>393457184
[citation needed]

>>393457218
this nigga straight outta wikipedia

>>393457218
*It was revealed to me in a dream.
But seriously though they can't keep on living off investors forever. At some point, the house of cards has to fall.

VRChat 2022.2.2 [1213] is now Live and includes our implementation of Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) as well as Secure Instances.

Blog: https://hello.vrchat.com/blog/vrchat-security-update

The blog post has been updated with the above information.

This release is now live for all platforms.

This release is not network-compatible. You will not be able to join people that have not updated yet.

Patchnotes: https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/vrchat-202222

>>393457448
>blah blah blah we heard you but we don't care, here's the update :^)
Trannies on suicide watch lmao

>Addressing these concerns and feedback is our highest priority. We are changing our internal development roadmap and priorities to focus on the features and additions that you want. Currently ongoing projects are being paused, rescheduled, or re-prioritized, and resources are being re-allocated to account for this change.
tldr: nothing will get done or added for 3 more years

>>393457448
>it really was 24 hours
lmao

>>393457448
tldr: fuck you

>>393457648
pretty much, yeah.

>>393457448
its over

>>393444670
happy birthday to my favorite vtuber

>>393457448
>entire vrc discord is just being spammed with "F" and "dead game"
lol lmao

>>393457881
It can only be really killed if there is an alternative that can reasonably compete.
Will investigate CVR on how far they have gone and check if they have an UDON like system for world dev and an easy way to port avatars

>>393457448
"we're not removing EAC and also we're putting the features we announcced a year ago on the backburner"

you lost skiddy chuds. kneel

Hello everyone. Since the announcement yesterday, we've gotten a LOT of feedback from all of you regarding the incoming 2022.2.2 VRChat update that integrates Easy Anti-Cheat.

We are going to ignore all of it. Thank you.

- The VRChat Team

>>393424314 (Cross-thread)
thank you all for coming!!

see those who can make it next week for whatever!!

>Survived all of vrchat's life without becoming gay or having gay sex

EAC isn't even to deal with malicious mods, this update is solely to fuck with FavCat Restored.

>>393458475

>>393458475
#1 victory royale

>>393457448
how many disabled war veterans must die on tuppers watch??

So many furries saying they're moving to neos. you cant convince me this is a bad update now

why does VRChat need easy anti cheat? Can't you download an avatar that just fucks with people anyway? How does that change this?

I have successfully extended my NEET certification for 2 months.

>>393459398
You can bypass all the avatars that fuck with people by using the safety settings in-game

>>393459398
>why does VRChat need easy anti cheat?
It doesn't
>Can't you download an avatar that just fucks with people anyway?
Yes
>How does that change this?
It doesn't

>>393459489
lets freaking GO

>>393459568
>loads avatar in to check attributes
>then decides to hide it
cool system

>>393459398
It doesn't. It's to make their investors happy by making them think that they are patching exploits.

I made my own pizza today

>>393459207
Actually hilarious how many mutes claim that they're disabled and NEED to use mods or else the mod team is literally killing them.

>>393459602

>>393459810
post your pizza anon

>>393459869
I hate this gay twitter shit so bad but VRchat is one of the only things I like doing right now so I don't want to see it die.

>>393459810
Post pic.

This feels like the time to call in all those grooming rings to any boomer media outlet that will listen and just burn the whole thing to the ground.

>all-time peak 24 seconds ago

>>393460083
>>393460190
i ate it already sorry just trust me it was cool and looked really good

>>393460116
It's not going to die as long as Quest kids exist. The remaining troons will have more to groom.

>>393460317
i don't want to hang around quest kids i want to hang around escapism-addled autistic manchildren from 4chan like me

Have any questies had an issue where the quest 2 won't use your headphones? It keeps playing sound through the speakers

>>393456705
Here's the MMD
treat her right
https://www.deviantart.com/taiyokuro/art/mmd-Krystal-2-1-Download-824793455
>>393456758
to not do so is my curse
>>393456975
I look forward to it. Really I need to start some standards to organize my 3d stuff. Spent all that time learning and just throwing stuff around until it was a huge mess. Now I sorta know what I'm doing but don't know which edited source files were used in good working avatars kek.

>>393460314

>>393460314
Well then I don't believe that you made a pizza.

>>393459810
Did you knead your own dough and all?

>>393460838
im sorry im sorry im sorry

>>393460848
i did!! i did make the pizza!!!!!!

>>393461105
yes!!!!!!!!!!

>>393459810
What kind?

You DID cancel your VRC+ sub right anon?

>>393452175
The schizo dot is peaking
interesting

>>393461132
I smell a flithy liar.

>>393461249
I never paid

>>393461197
we didn't have a lot of food so i had to make it with what we had so it was a shredded cheese pizza with the tiny bit of spaghetti sauce we had left and i rehydrated dried bacon bits and put them on too

>>393461294
i would never lie about pizza

Congratulations!

bros... is this normal for a tuesday at this time?

So is this the end of VRC?

I'm so hungry.

how's the erp on chilloutvr

>>393461726
ill make you a pizza

>>393461249

>>393461621
>yfw when they find out a child diddler made CVR

>>393462038
But you don't have pics.
I can't eat an imaginery pizza.

For the people who keep wondering why the non-malicious QoL mod creators don't just bypass EAC, here's an explanation from one of the creators of the most popular all-in-one QoL mod

>>393462280
Good for them, don't give it attention by not playing it.
I'm hoping some of these modding communities go black-hat.

will people get mad at me for logging into vrchat?

>>393462280
What's the tl;dr?

>>393462772
I'm angry at you for just thinking about it

>>393461656
A lot of people are trying to find out how to uninstall mods or get a workaround on their paid client right now

>>393462772
If they do they were never your friend to begin with

>>393462836
>So, where do we go from here? Honestly, we're not sure. We wanted to wait until the decision was final to make any plans, and now that the situation is not in our favor, we'll have to figure something out. I can't say for sure if we'll attempt to bypass EAC or not. We'll have to look in to these changes and determine what we want to do. However even if we do manage to bypass it and everything returns to normal, the troubles don't end there. VRChat will likely continue to stop us, so we'll figure out a solution, and that cat and mouse game will continue for who knows how long. While we all care deeply for the community and love this platform, at some point we have to ask ourselves "why are we putting up with this abusive relationship?" At the end of the day, modding is a hobby that we do in our free time. But when a hobby is no longer fun or enjoyable, you move on to the next thing. We just have to decide if we want to keep going. We'll consider how we want to move forward, and inform the community of our decision later.

>>393462854
;_;

>>393462836
vrchat is retarded and there's no point in being the battered housewife of a retard

>>393462772
Yeah,
I'm lurking on the website and will be unfriending everyone that gets on.

>>393462836
shits fucked yo

>>393442271 (OP)
Yiff in hell

>>393461803
theres apparently a whole dedicated japanese community of cvr coomers

>>393462772
if your friends are cool and havent had their sense of curiosity and wanderlust lobotomized theyll be checking out and exploring cvr/neos, you should join them and have some nice times together :)

>>393462772
no. But prepare your alternatives. Make an avatar in CVR or something. We shouldn't just be a battered wife for Tupper.

Be a digital metanomad

>>393462280
>emmvrc
>literally a client used for abusing
>acting like the victim

kek

make sure to leave a negative steam review for vrc asap

Where are the dance meetings taking place from now on?
Is there a world like VR Dancing in ChilloutVR?

Now, im not saying this is the time to kill pubs and kill vrc but im just gonna lay this file at your feet

Coomers, Normals, VRG, whomever, we need to team up and make it hurt.

quest brr for quest
alice murders pc

have fun

-R

https://files.catbox.moe/k1lzui.rar

>vrchat: update queued
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e056R97svz8

>>393462280
bye bozo. dont come back

>>393463243
fuck off retard

>just want to see my cute avatar with portable mirror
>get branded a filthy hacker by the hivemind

terrorism is the answer

>>393463243
Based Ryder?

>>393463251

>>393463243
I'm not going to make the vrchat experience worse than it already is lol

>>393463442
Other R, dont give him credit

>>393463243
not your personal army faggot

Nows the time to snag a good username in CVR and Neos

>>393463508
retard?

>>393463508
Dutch?

>>393463204
look all these abusive features

>>393463424
The only hivemind here is everyone going "durrr EAC bad..."
You can tell what kind of filth are the members of the "community" when >>393463243
is the first response you get.

>>393463552
Managed to snag a state of matter; we ballin'

>>393463508
>>393463593
Not me
t. Dutch R

>>393463621
And to note here the teleport to friend part of the mod doesn't work in game worlds.
Nor any speed or risky functions. They've been very on the ball on that.

>>393463643
>defending EAC
how's that corporate cock taste? Even disregarding mods EAC is a piece of shit garbage anti-cheat across nearly every game it's used in

>>393463237
No, there's no world like that in CVR yet, but CVR does have a good video player with playlist feature. The cvr api is currently going up and down right now as users move over, so most will probably be playing vrchat for two more weeks.

>>393463643
Checked out some asian community and you are just wrong.

newfag here, how easy is to get into chilloutvr? Is it like VRchat with cliques and people looking in mirrors or is it actually a good hangout and meet new people game?

>>393463889
well with its population explosion right now is the best time anon

>>393463237
There should be. I'm gonna be furiously studying how to upload maps in CVR.

>>393463889
you'd be on the cutting edge right now my man, chilloutVR has historically like 8 daily players before this.

>crashers and malicious modders have free rein to do whatever now

Looks like meats back on the menu boys. A new age of griefing is upon us. Going to be some absolute gold made by fucking around with the rejects left on the game.

>>393463976
you lost. please go back to your discord echo chamber.

Uhh Lavenderbros, what is going on? Chillout and Neos are hitting 1k but we're still dead???

All right, should I watch anime or play a game?

What about helios vr?

>>393463963
>>393463969
thanks, I'll give it a try

>>393464081
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYDQO3paN2A

Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy.

>>393463965
>>393463831
Good.
Meanwhile I will grind the documentation. Need to find out how to adapt my avatar.

>>393463237
It has a fitness studio world with a videoplayer and a mirror. Videoplayer has youtube search and queuing system built in

>>393464529

>>393457157

>>393464125
You think you're so funny anon, huh?
You are

looks like I cant make a chilloutvr account right now for some reason

What world in falador are we rioting in?

>>393463508
Riggway?

>>393462280
>i for one will not be booting up vrchat anymore until EAC is removed
based vr chat devs finally stealth patching trannies from the game. maybe this is a good change.

Would people like to try hosting events in ChilloutVR this week if it's feasible? Even if it's only like a one week thing, might be cool to check out.

>>393464486
impressive cringe

>>393464645
servers getting flooded because they're scrambling to auto-scale, give it 24 hours and things should be pretty snappy

>>393464645
Me too. They're being hammered.

You guys are too lazy to go to another game anyways.
Accept that EAC cock up your ass.

>>393464529
Their system is like avatars 3.0 AND avatars 2.0 combined. You can do everything in the animator, but it also ha easy to use override slots, where you can drag and drop your emote animations, and also, easy shortcuts to make toggles, recolors and stuff like that.

Usefull links:

https://github.com/imagitama/vrc3cvr

https://booth.pm/ja/items/4032295

https://developers.abinteractive.net/cck/setup/

https://forums.abinteractive.net/d/93-uploading-your-first-chilloutvr-avatar

https://vrch.at/u2mn7462

MAHJONG NOW

>>393464645
No surprise there. A ton of popular modding discords are all directing people to CVR right now after the annoucnement, so there's probably an absurd amount of people flooding the servers right now.

>>393462867
>how to uninstall mods
what do you mean? you jut delete the mods folder from your melonloader shit in vrc no?

>>393463965
based content creator

>maebbie responding to himself for 20 posts

>>393464856
Fuck off chang

>>393464331
aint downloading unreal engine

>>393465010
That'll still run the melonloader.

>>393465225
You WILL accept EAChang's cock up your ass.

>>393465503
ok so uninstall melonloader

>>393464961
no thanks

>>393464961
>vrch.at
I will pass

>>393464331
What about it?
You gotta shill it more if you want people to take interest

>>393464486
why the uptempo shit

>>393465174
sorry tupper people actually are going to try your competitors this time

>>393465570
>>393465634
damn

You should play mahjong anon.

>>393465760

>there's mahjong in NEOS
it's LIT

>>393465916
see >>393465960

bros im thinking we should try neosvr

>>393465960
cryptofag why did you have to ruin such a promising thing aaaaa

>>393465960
That looks atrocious jesus christ. There is shit EVERYWHERE on the screen.

>>393465960
why is this chinese domino game I never heard of before /vrg/ so popular with you autists?

>>393466147
It's cause you ain't a weeb son.

>>393466147
>autists
key word

>>393466031
Isn't the dev behind Neos a gigantic dickhead? Or am I confusing it for Lavender, or whatever?

>Update queued
>"Let’s follow that up with the hard part: we are going to be releasing this update, and we do not have plans or intent to revert or roll it back."
Well, I guess, uh...
That's it!
H-Haha!
...Quite a ride, huh?

>>393466241
Lavender is June, Neos is an unironic furry cryptobro

>>393466302
>furry cryptobro
Fuck that shit then. I'm just gonna keep to CVR.

>>393466421
Apparently Neos has their own crypto NFT coin or some bullshit that they sell on the blockchain too.

ChilloutVR's servers are so overloaded I can't even make an account

>>393466302
the cryptobro is a mask wearing guy not a furry if its probableprime

>>393466474
And people are unironically suggesting Neos.

>>393466564
I made an account but mistyped my mail, now I cannot make one with a correct one aaaahhhh

>>393466241
>>393466302
>>393466421
the "business guy" for neos is a cryptobro
he's apparently been keeping furry autist programmers in the basement and paying them in food or something
the furry devs escaped late last year and there's a legal fight
the current build of the game has crypto disabled
this is my vague understanding anyway

>>393466648
So this guy is the CEO or?
Also, can you tell me what the deal is with the pokemon badges and shit above people's names? Looks really obnoxious

>>393466851
just going off of what another anon said
I honestly have no clue and only read posts from frooxius
watched some of probable's tutorials and he seemed fine in em
badges are just icons
https://wiki.neos.com/Badges
you get a Tux when running on Linux natively

>>393466823
obviously he didn't lock a bunch of furry programmers in his basement before they escaped and hired saul goodman or some shit, but now that I've heard this story I'd like to imagine that's exactly the way it happened

>>393466089
yeah that's just how neos looks
I don't have the mental fortitude/handicap to play it more than an hour even after knowing how all the menus work

Unless there's a large scale organised effort to get people to port maps and avatars to other platforms AND remove them from VRChat then nothing will happen. People will come crawling back within days. VRC has the content, features and players, nothing will change.

>>393466823
the steam build has no crypto as per steam's policy
if vrc ever adds vrc buttcoin it would have to do the same
they offer a crypto build outside of steam

my name is taken in chilloutvr bros

>>393467512
first general friend? they've always done that. those anons are still here, its 4chan. you'll see them in the next thread.

because dont forget,
you're here forever

>>393467748
shoulda made an account years ago silly

>>393467748
>he didn't make an account as soon as they came online, just in case a thing like this happened
Anon...

>>393467652
fuck off Tupper

>>393467696
Don't worry, VRchat devs will do that themselves. Their job openings are asking for NFTs and are looking to sanitize the game even more. Get ready for a mass purge in the near future. This is just step 1 with removing mods

why not give altspace a try?

>>393467825
>>393467512
Exactly. We'll be here. VRchat is just a single game. And we're not about to just lay there suck their cock and take it up the ass.

>>393456997
The quest version doesn't have EAC nor is the client even obfuscated (unlike PC)

>>393467993
Oh yeah I'm with you. This is step one. First they crack down on mods, then they'll crack down on lewd content, then they crack down on movie hosting worlds, then they crack down on copyrighted assets such as game rips

>>393451923
VRC is like bitcoin, it's in the top of normies head when they think of VR platform to fuck around. Nothing is gonna replace it even if there is better alternatives

>>393467696
Some modding communities have been telling people to go upload worlds and avatars publicly to CVR and Neos, even if they still plan on continuing to play VRChat. Not so sure those people will listen though.

>>393468113
I did
when I got my cv1

person whose been playing VR since 2016 here
Good, fuck VR chat. I played it once, years ago, saw a bunch of people spamming "do you know the way", and left. Now, the past years, I see the VR general is literally just mass avatarfagging with VR chat fag shit.
Go play real VR games and stop being a /soc/ general.

>>393467512
>https://streamable.com/7pygz3
>Tupper's in the webm
lol

>>393468113
>say nigger in altspace
>ITS SUPER EFFECTIVE
you might be on to something

>>393468349
The content creators that could make a difference are all for EAC for misguided reasons. And even if not they would still need to remove the content from VRC as well for it to make any difference

>>393468590
haHA
HAHA

>>393468590
get him fired for hanging out with heckin 4chan hackerinos!

>>393468531
>>>/vrgg/
>>393467696
There's an organized effort right now. Whether it's large scale or not depends on you.

CVR is now at 1,300 people playing

>>393468590
knife in the back

can't afford CVR, guess this is the end. It was nice knowing you, guys.

>>393469118
>Boneworks
Different anon, but I have yet to try that. How good is the melee? I keep hearing mixed things about the game in general, really.

>>393469118
>Play a real game, like Boneworks, or Into the Radius

I already did, for hours and hours. I already talked about it to the point of boredom in this very thread. There's not enough new content for VR Games to sustain a general. Look at the slowness of /vrgg/.

>>393469118
look at this tough guy

>>393468590
>everyone's having carefree fun singing and dancing
>looking back at it now

This shit is something out of a movie. Modern day Judas

>>393462165
vrchat devs made cvr?!

>>393469426
Felt that way the moment I saw it. I still remember I was too hungover to get on that night. God I regret not being there.

>>393468590
>I was there that night
>went to the other side of the lake with buddies and watched the going-ons at a distance while just shooting the shit
That was a good time.

>>393463140
Cutie

>>393469604
>>393469426
Why the fuck are you trannies crying? nothing that happened there required fagmods.

>>393469683
I'm just reminiscing, niggerfaggot. Pull that tranny dick out of your ass.

>>393469118
>Play a real game, like this shit that was released years ago and was already discussed here as much as it can be because there's really not that much to fucking discuss about them

>>393469805
It's almost like all of the game discussion gets sucked up by /vrgg/ and we just had one of the largest fucking vrchat-related disasters in years JUST FUCKING HAPPEN TODAY.

>>393469805
You must be talking about trash.

>>393469695
>Bonelab
Huh. Didn't know that was going to be a thing. Should be interesting.
But yeah, hopefully I can snag Boneworks the next time it's on sale. I missed totally missed the previous sale since I was fucking broke.

>>393469805
>huge drama surrounding one of the biggest VR games in the entire market
>"WOW WHY IS /vrg/ TALKING ABOUT THIS SHIT AND NOT MY FAVORITE SMALL INDIE VR TECH DEMOS FROM YEARS AGO?"
Are you fucking stupid?

>>393458475
I failed...

friendly reminder that it's not normal to be gay.

>>393469805
come here and post about vr games then
I guarantee that I have played more actual vr games than you have, and posted about them until I was tired of posting about them.
i'm not here to post things you like for your entertainment
if you wanna discuss vr games start the discussion yourself

>>393469683
>TRANNIES TRANNIES

Take a break from this site. Your brain is rotting faggot.

>>393445865
Starting in 10-15 minutes, you can join off Silencen or anyone in New Cinema 1336 if you're interested.

>>393470082
swing and a miss.

>>393470286
>breaking the boycott
yikes...

They may take our mods, but they'll never take our rhythm. NA pypy happening now, remember to do a clean install of VRC first if you need to.

https://vrch.at/bbupew5j

or join on Azuth

>>393467825
unless you die in real life

>>393470286
>>393470485
No thanks, I'm boycotting.

>>393470391
Yeah with this kinda attitude you deserve to ignored

>>393470525
net positive for humanity

>>393470391
If you think EAC has anything to do with "custom made titty monster anime girl avatars" you are actually braindead and need to stop posting.

>>393470391
Go to /vrgg/. Anyone who wants to talk about years old games with you is in there. If it's slow, that goes to show how many people actually care.

There's is no need to be upset.

>the one that "doesn't want to participate in the namefagging and drama" is the most mentally unhinged
every time

>>393470391
EAC has nothing to do with avatars you fucking sped.

>>393470645
You know you're on an anime website right?

>whoa what the fuck why are 4chan autists choosing to look like anime girls when given the opportunity to look like anything they want what the fuck i don't understand

>>393470645
theres a non vrchat thread

>>393470807
yeah you seem like a reasonable person of sane mind, I definitely want to play pavlov with you.

>>393470645
>>393470807
>>393470391
>>393470978
You don't need to use an Anime avatar to think you're being a hysterical faggot right now. Calm down and play some fucking Gorilla Tag, cumbelly. We talk about and play VR games while playing them, which happens plenty. Expecting a general to talk about games that have a slow drip of new content that came out years ago over a perpetual drama machine is a fool's errand.

everyone person here that has complained about the update is fat irl.
t. been to every meet

>>393470391
maybe you show up acting like a cunt
i'd discuss vr games with you if you weren't such a cunt

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE HELL IS HAPPENING?!?!?! I JOINED A VRG INSTANCE AND MY COMPUTER HAS BEEN HACKED AND EVERY FILES HAS BEEN REPLACED BY YIIK REACTION PICTURESSSS I HATE VRG WHY DID THEY HACK MY COMPUTER AND PUT YIIK FILES ALL INSIDE MY COMPUTER!!!!!!!

>he got banned
based

>>393471142
holy shit anon you're lucky to have gotten out unscathed. didn't you hear they were EXPLODING HEADSETS?!!?!?!!!!

YOUR EYEBALLS COULD HAVE BEEN MELTED FROM YOUR SKULL

This is a far cry from crying about VRChat. I am moving soon but would my "Dining Room" be enough playspace for VR?

Anti EAC:
>Reddit
>Discord
>Trannies
>Furries
>Griefers
>Rippers

Indifferent to EAC:
>Cuties
>Coomers
>Drunkards

Pick your side.

>>393471249
I'M TREMBLING WITH MOTION

>>393471289
are there outlets

>>393471289
no.

>>393471307
I pick the winning side

>>393471307
i pick the side that doesn't involve Xi

>>393471336
Yes.

>>393471367
Why not?

>>393471008
i weigh like 54kg irl tho

>>393471486
you're a script kiddie tranny, same shit

>>393471574
its mine now cocksucker

>>393471307
Indifferent
>n-nooooooooo EAC, muh privacy!
Hope you didn't play Elden Ring

>>393471486
>complains about namefagging
>spergs when other people don't recognize his letterdrop

>>393471307
But coomers don't like EAC because it fucks with their lovense shit

>>393471669
literal whos don't get to decide.

>>393471723
coomers have already released their workaround
now they're all getting banned for lewd twitters which is hilarious

>>393471008
my bmi is under 20 anon.
The only true generalization here is that anyone happy with this update has under 90iq.

I don't feel very strongly about mods, even though I think more rules where doesn't have to be won't be good for VRchat. My biggest concern is people I know and like leaving.

>>393471712
IDC as long as you dont compare me to the troon

>>393471458
should be good then

my iq is under 20

>>393471847
Nah, wanting EAC is literally a midwit issue. Retards and Geniuses both hate EAC, it's only midwits who are totally fine with trading way freedom for """"""""""""security"""""""""""""" that are pro-EAC.

>>393471892
i have an iq of 115 and have never played VR chat, and am glad its dying

>>393471997
didnt ask

you think people will get mad like this at first but over time come back?

>>393471831
>coomers have already released their workaround
What is the workaround? Posting selfies on twitter?

Krauts, fix the game now!

>>393472134
Yes because a lot of people don't have self control.

>>393471831
>Banned for lewd twitter

How uh, can you get banned from VRC for twitter posts?

>>393472134
yeah, people will come back
vrc is still a bit better than the alternatives. That said, this is the first step on vrc's march towards heavy monetization and it won't be the last time people are frustrated with the game.
As vrc continues to flounder in the name of pleasing the investors and (hopefully) its competitors improve their games, the chances that there comes a day that people migrate to another game does increase. You should be ready for that.
The community won't disappear overnight though so you don't need to worry about that.

>>393471892
My biggest concern is that I just ate a huge lunch and now there's pypy on. Ate so much I can barely move but I wanna dance too.

>>393472134
People that grandstand on twitter and cancel their VRC+ will keep logging on. In fact, they're probably on right now and lamenting their lack of special icons and hoping this will all blow over so they can resub.

>>393472103
I dont need your permission to speak
go cry about your fag simulator some more

>>393472536
>>393471997
not the anon you're replying to and I didn't ask either.

>>393472536
so you're the /vrgg/ guy?
I really didn't mind /vrgg/ since it seemed like a good-hearted attempt, but maybe I should rethink that. You seem incredibly butthurt and completely unable to tolerate posts that don't directly address things you're interested in.

steam folder
delete easy anti cheat folder and application from vrchat folder
over write all files with this
https://www.mediafire.com/file/qasusckpqvi1vfx/
launch vrchat
now you have mods again
amount of testing: fuck if i know it was working fine when tested

>>393472717
You just cannot help yourself but try and provide labels and names for people to perpetuate your namefag general.

>>393472832
>this is the person who got mad when people didn't recognize his letterdrop

>>393472832
brother didn't you just get all your posts deleted? stop while you're ahead

>>393472895
Again, you are so desperate to apply labels. I have no fucking idea what you are talking about, this "letter drop"
Not everyone wants to be a namefag.

>>393472832
How's that piss feel in your lungs?

>>393472758
thanks for the dolphin porn

>>393472958
Nice try, Ryder, we all know its you.

RIP mamamad

>>393472134
i mean what are people actually expecting to do. if your complaint is you don't have these qol features any more then neos or crv or w/e are even worse. yeah people will come back

>>393472758
Hello, I need your help testing my game, friend!

>>393472758
this looks very trustworthy and is definitely not a virus or a keylogger or anything of the sort

>>393473204
I still don't understand mamamad and why they do what they do. Guess I'll never know now.

Why isn't VRC working with SteamVR anymore?
Don't tell me they fucked that up too

>>393473834
Yep :)

>>393473834
make sure you update. try restarting steam if it isnt updating.

Someone's eyes just melted off their skull live in vrchat!!!!

HOLY SHIT KIRONEEM JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

You should watch Utawarerumono.

>>393474637
that almost happened to me but the fire in my heart burned hotter than the fire in my headset and i was safe

>>393472134
The sex mods...

>>393473204
not the guy we needed
but the guy we kinda deserved

>>393471307
Looking forward to seeing all the trash take itself out

>>393471307
>>393475752
It won't be as dramatic as you expect. No one will leave permanently. People will just whine more as large meetups perform far worse. You'll be crashed slightly more often. The game will run ever so slightly worse from having a 'security' rootkit. But nothing dramatic.

>>393475935
this is part of a slow and steady monetization process that will become increasingly intolerable

In reality, my decision of sticking to vrchat or switching to chilloutvr falls solely on where the people I fucking despise end up going

>>393471671
honestly this
I play squad, and its EAC is borderline pointless, I uninstall it every time.
That said fuck EAC anyway

>>393476217
Don't worry i'll do both :)

>>393472526
>People that grandstand on twitter and cancel their VRC+ will keep logging on.
Good tho
VRC is how they make money. Freebies are taking money from them. No VRC+ + coomers continuing to play as much as before = net drain on the system

>>393476520
shut it, tranny. No one on VRG gives a shit about your stupid hacks.

>>393476362
The point of them adding EAC wasn't really to target hackers and rippers. They'll bypass it or generally be unaffected anyway.
It's to stop regular users from modding in quality of life functions that can be monetized by vrchat directly. The majority of these people will not go to the trouble of bypassing EAC, either because of their general incompetence or their fear of being banned.

It's really a smart move, I think in the long run it could possibly work out for them. They just need to wait until this is -fully- blown over to start selling portable mirror functions for money.

>>393476520
>cattle don't realize they're the product
pottery

how is performance with eac compared to before, sans avatar hider, and other optimization mods

>>393476982
https://twitter.com/captaincatvr/status/1551788301723508736

Multiple people already reporting worse framerate, here's one of them.

>>393476982
my frames are fine now but it's a smaller group
won't know the real impact until friday

My CPU used to be rather cool running multiple things with VRC, but now I can fry a fucking egg on it with VRC alone standing in an empty fucking room.
What the fuck is EAC doing

How do you people actually clean your track straps? It's not like I can throw in into the washing machine because there are metal bits attached to it. Or can I.....?

>>393477335
EAC is notorious for being a cpu hog, When Elden ring came out the issues the anti-chat had were numerous despite the cheat software basically being a really shite bandaid.

>>393472389
That's a pretty big concern i hope you can figure it out

>>393472389
this is why you need a pypy plug.

Guys, why can't I sign up to CVR? Is everyone bombarding the game with logins now or something?

>>393476217
this but with the people I like

Daily reminder that kemono isn't furry

>>393478315
Yes. They said they received close to 10,000 new sign-ups.

What graphics settings does everyone run Green Hell VR at? I have a 3070 and am struggling for frames

>>393477575
There's this thing called hand washing that people used to do before the age of washing machines.

>>393478414
Oh damn, okay guess I'm waiting then.

>>393477101
Can't wait to see how fucked it is in larger instances

>>393478315

>>393478398
Incorrect

>>393476765
This'll be good
Can you explain in your mind how anyone makes money on me dancing around in VR or dressing up as Shrek and calling people racial slurs? Be precise with your business modeling.

oops

Vanilla Client Chads...
I kneel.

>>393476741
The day they start selling shit you can get in mods now is the day someone bypasses EAC universally.

>>393479396
yea-
*crashes*

>>393479363
Aw shit
Spread it, quick

>>393479396
>absolutely unaffected
If only, hah

>>393479273
not him but let me ask yoi, where does the money generated by vrc come from?
most players dont pay

>>393479702
>not him but let me ask yoi, where does the money generated by vrc come from?
VRC+
>most players dont pay
Whales do, and some have multiple accounts.
If you think they're selling userdata, I ask this: What Userdata does anyone have proof they were taking prior to EAC?
an argument can be made that EAC was added to streamline taking user data, but before that; what were people tracking/selling? Voice comms?

>>393479363
what the fuck
does this mean quest users can still use mods?

>>393480010
there is no EAC on Quest :^)

>>393479621
4+ year vanilla user here, haven't been crashed in 3 years using some basic safety settings.

>>393480083
EAC makes the game run worse, retard.

>>393480053
THE ABSOLUTE S T A T E

>>393480053
enter the sillyverse

>>393479856
i think the money comes from the investors. Why do big investors invest in vrchat and not its competitors?
It's the much larger userbase. In that sense, the users are the product. The investors are the true customer.

>>393480136
Oh nooo you called me a bad word! Haven't noticed any frame drops on my end.
But I don't hang out with unoptimized egirls.

>>393479497
>>393479621
I hangout with my years long vrg cliques and friendships and have safety systems at max
i can only see my friends
randos are harmess grey npc's.

>>393480370
>I haven't noticed any frame drops in these non-prime hours on a fucking tuesday.

cool :)

>>393480443
>I know how big your group is and when they play

>>393478798
Malding

oh boo hoo cab you cant client and stalk wired anymore STFU!

>>393479273
More users == more business case when you present to the investors.

Let's look at the most recent example. Take a look at Blizzard and how they defined success. MAUs, meaning how many people are logged into their service. They defined the MAU as the number of users logged into their service or account, and even going as far to define each game as a different MAU. So if you were logged into two different games for the week as a single user, you counted as two different MAU. Is that number meaningless? Yes, but not to investors. The investors see X million MAUs and think "oh hey, we're doing well" while the games that's being churned out is hot garbage and actual player engagement is dropping.

When investors look at products, they don't look at things like how much a community is engaged with developers or how well the developers listen to feedback. They look at cold, hard numbers. How many players are logged into the game is one of them. I just find it extremely funny that people who cried foul when they announced EAC just log right back in not even 5 minutes after the update's dropped.

>bu...but we left a negative review on steam guiz! i can still play the game guiz!
Even the recent review bombing can be explained favorably to investors. They can say "we introduced an anti-cheat system and all the cheaters review bombed the product" and then they can come right back and show how the player count didn't drop at all even after the update. This actually makes the game even better, since all the cheaters are now gone!

Considering that VRC is actually a social game, with the main focus in social interaction, you can say user engagement is the ONLY metric that matters, and you're padding it.

tl;dr You are giving VRC more clout.

>>393480363
>Why do big investors invest in vrchat and not its competitors?
Because they realize VR is a real thing but also realize Meta is a piece of shit.
>It's the much larger userbase. In that sense, the users are the product.
Ok but no one has told me what we produce? Our existence? If that's the case, this move for EAC is a terrible idea because it rocks the boat.
If the game did fall into exploit territory, and we were the product, why they fuck would they care? We still play the game.

There's something else going on that we're not seeing behind the scenes for this to make sense if we're the product.

It’s unironically over guys

>>393480443
>>393480630
>>393480610
Face it, fag, REAL /VRG/ users don't care about your coomer and toasterfag arguements.

wish i could get drunk tonight

>>393480685
Yes >>393466425

>>393480648
This still doesn't answer at all where EAC comes into play.
Is their goal to prod the userbase while also reporting stellar numbers to investors? that doesn't add up. It's a shadowy conspiracy done seemingly because Tupper enjoys human suffering and not because any real gain is being had.
If their goal is to just harvest as many people as possible for engagement; why rock the boat?

>>393480648
>l
not to mention they can be the "brave" developer who is willing to endure community displeasure to push a "uncomfortable but necessary" update.

which means any other investor led idea down the road.

>>393480898
That's a pretty huge leap in logic from EAC to they'll eat the bugs and install the bitcoin miner
We're not even over the fallout of EAC if it turns out hackers already found a way around it as hinted.

>>393480680
users are the product
always will be

>>393479856
VRC+ is just a cherry on top, and in some ways a scam. You're paying them for features that cost nothing for them to add.
>>393480892
They tested the waters with VRC+, and now they're encroaching more by removing modders and taking more direct control of their client. You think people are joking about paid personal mirror. Try again in a few months.
We hoped VRC would be counter to something like META horizons, but at this point it's going to become the same thing.

>>393481067
EAC is a chinese rootkit, anon

>>393478398
but the furries won anon
time to join them in neos

>>393479396
>absolutely unaffected
l m a o

>>393481343
Sure, you can argue they're selling user data NOW
But there's no proof they were set up or even made to take advantage of this before this transition. If the idea is to start sucking up user credentials and credit card numbers; they would get caught pretty quickly with how many people are now examining it.

Also making even less sense about this shadowy scheme: If anyone really,really, really wanted to fuck VRChat over, the would join any public world and record the ERP session for ten minutes and say "My Lil' Brother was hit on in the virtual game!!!"

It actually makes no sense why the devs are going to war with the userbase when VRCs current existence hinges on a prisoner's dilemma with the devs and the userbase against the mainstream media who would love nothing more than a hook to report VR as evil.

>>393481429
Face it, retard, real VRG-friends have proven you wrong already >>393480370 >>393480415

Keep seething tho

>>393481429
sorry idk what it's like to have weak hardware anon.

>>393481483
actual underage take
>Also making even less sense about this shadowy scheme: If anyone really,really, really wanted to fuck VRChat over, the would join any public world and record the ERP session for ten minutes and say "My Lil' Brother was hit on in the virtual game!!!"
Try this for real, see what happens. Nobody in mainstream media wants to report VR as evil other than using it to generate a few clicks. It's your coombrain and your inflated sense of ego that thinks whatever dumb shit you do in VRC is of actual interest or of consequence.

>>393481483
there's been women journofags whining about getting raped in vr already on any of the platforms lel
nothing was ever done
I'm sure there's been articles about the grooming scene too as its not exactly under the radar
the dev team can just claim we did all we could sir and get off with a slap on the wrist

>>393481694
Do you know what it's like to have a chinese botnet anti-cheat system eating away at your CPU?

>>393480892
because they know there is nowhere to go but stay on the boat. they can afford to lose some players.

Consider, all the big content creators are on board. And they are what drives the game. they make their income off of this game, so they will bootlick anything the dev team says as long as it doesnt step on their patreonbux.

if those content creators were upset at this, you better believe they wouldve put the brakes on. But instead they are treated favorably and become "friends" with the devs.

think about it. Blue gets a ton of dosh from patrons for b club.
so tda thots and furries can plaster their mugs all over the map and get their names on a special list. those same users will pay for vrc+.

most people in vrc are normies who dont pay attention to mods or often even content creation. they just consume, and spend money. They will buy the tda edit/sparkeldog furry. they will pay vrc+. and they will pay the map patreon. which promotes the mapmaker to keep making content for vrchat, which keeps people coming back.

>>393481067
thats why the leap. why use eac if it's shit and does nothing but introduce it's own problems and piss off the userbase, while doing little for hacking and ripping?

Only answer is the usual answer, which is "monetization/image reasons" and for vrc, until they start selling more than just vrc+, monetization means investor funding and investors want things, and want to *see* things. its why we got quest support, and the halfassed implementation of vrc quest edition.

certain kinds of investors want to see a company that is willing to dig their heels in the sand and push unpopular updates they deem "necessary", because then other "updates" and initiatives could easily be pushed if they can survive as big a shitstorm as this one.

>>393481741
yeah because it's in like half of modern games. China owns your booty anon i'm sorry.

>>393481747
damn this Unity scene viewer content sure isn't transferable to this other Unity scene viewer

>>393481819
Sorry corporate cocksucker, you may have your booty claimed but I won't.
Don't forget to ask Ron to donate a shekel in to your piggy bank ass slot for a job well done today.

>>393480680
Why do big investors keep investing in vrchat?

I do think they haven't quite figured out how to turn users into money quite yet. VRC seems to be operated like a startup that isn't profitable yet.
I do think they view EAC as an important step on the road to profitability. Modding was too widely accepted and it was too easy an avenue for people to bypass their monetization because people could create mods to do the things that vrchat eventually intends to sell. This actually already happens, there are mods to increase the number of favorite avatars you can have stored - this is one of the few features you actually currently get for vrc+

But at the moment, the users ARE the product. The investors are attracted by the user base. They're trying to figure out how to mine the money out of the userbase. Why do you think vrchat has a job posting for a virtual currency specialist posted on their website?

>>393481747
lmao i saw blue on twitter defending this stuff
i'm going to give him shit next time i see him in vr
what a cocksucker

>>393482035
I'm confused as to why they would post such a braindead take

I wonder what to do tonight.

>>393481731
>nothing was ever done
Because none of it involved kids. You forgot that part: The women journos were laughed at because they put themselves in that position as functioning adults. VRC is waaay more viable to collapse because kids play it.
>>393481709
>Try this for real, see what happens. Nobody in mainstream media wants to report VR as evil other than using it to generate a few clicks. It's your coombrain and your inflated sense of ego that thinks whatever dumb shit you do in VRC is of actual interest or of consequence.
Lmao. You're naïve and probably underaged if you don't remember this being a trend for every social media platform

Put in measures for 'our protection' -> it's used for other measures than our protection -> It's used for copyright, corporate protection measures, enforcement of content policy -> bot police state.

Arguable, VRC hasn't even hit step 1 of this. Which would be automated tracking of hate speech.
And no, I'm not going to do that because when that fucking box is opened, it's never closing again. The point I'm making is that SOMEONE with an axe to grind could do it, because someone with an axe to grind did it everywhere else.

>>393470485

Good workout everyone! Had a blast, looking forward to Thursday

>>393482254
I'm sure that like all of the other big content creators, blue was informed ahead of time about EAC and told to do damage control.

>>393482487
https://www.thegamer.com/vrchat-grooming-abuse-children-investigation/
first result

lol lmao

when the dancers are the same size

>>393482645
good, I hope a bunch of popular worlds look like this come the weekend, that'd be funny.

>>393482571
And?
Literally everyone on VRC has a story like that. Picture what would happen if mainstream media picked it up

>>393482821
there are a fair number of articles that popped up from a lazy search

>>393482778
naw, like >>393482254
shows, they're all in on it.
All the top creators on twitter were praising the update minutes after it was announced.

>>393482645
Unironically? Based

Way more based than whining and then not doing anything about it.

>>393482882
>A reporter from the BBC posed as a 13-year-old in the game, and says they were "approached by numerous adult men" who asked them to simulate sex acts. They were asked to perform "erotic role play" with the adults, and were able to access strip clubs even with a Facebook profile that said they were 13.
This is why no one took this seriously, though.

>>393478486
Anyone?

>>393478486
>>393483079
I've never heard of that game in my life. Try /vrgg/

>>393482757
yooo
that was fun!

>>393460797
I'm going to just convert the original since this mmd hackjob isn't good enough for me. I am giving you props though for sending me the link.

>>393483227
ya the MMD made things easy to learn for my first avatar but it is quite crusty

>>393482645
niggas acting like fried chicken just got banned

>>393483665
Fried chicken is banned now.

>>393482757
Cute senko

>>393483916
What are they gonna ban next? The pool?

>>393482254
Sellout lives don't matter.

>>393466147
it's a fun game for up to 4 players and a remarkably great social game for autists too shy for even regular vrg autists, to bond and drink over

>>393482035
He won't fix old avatars so he can suck my dick

>>393482254
>>393484083
>>393482565
>>393482035
>>393481747
I think he's just not that well informed about what EAC can and can't do.
He's just a creator that has a lot of complaints on his table from his patrons how they get crashed.

VRC is claiming that EAC is the solution. Blue has trust in VRCdevs specially tuptup. His trust is misplaced in this instance imo.
Once it shows crash rates didn't really change much I'm sure his view will change. Or given enough evidence that EAC is dogshit in reducing crash rates in his world.

I hate Neos and the people who make it. Is Chillout and Neos really the only two options aside from VRC?

>>393482778
unfortunately, the kind of people who are willing to put their money where their mouth is, are the kind of people vrchat doesnt really care about. let blackcat or blue be inconvenienced, then you see change.

just like how it used to be streamers that got the golden throne.

I added that message to all of my newer maps i could still update, and the older crusty ones I just de-listed.

>>393484417
>mmd user and amateur kitbasher don't know shit
say it ain't so

>>393484418
Yes, you will choose between them and you will be happy.

>>393484476
anon can I be friends with you if we meet organically one day?

>>393484417
his view wont change. Because vrchat is his source of income.

You underestimate how people will toe the line to make their bread. What's he gonna do, leave?

No. vrchat will simply placate him and others like him. and they will bend their views to make it work. you already see it with everyone bootlicking in an almost kneejerk fashion. "well it is gonna stop crashers and hackers so GOOD, FUCK YOU!" even when you try to explain that it wont, they'll just say 'well it will stop some of them, and that's better than nothing. its a good step forward!"

reminder that vrchat is a fantastic microcosm of society at large, and this move, how people react to it, and how vrchat is handling it, is fascinatingly just like real life scenarios

>>393483665
GET OUT RACIST

>>393484803
I am glad I didn't put all my eggs into this basket full of holes.

So whats holding me back framerate wise in Green Hell VR?
I have a
>RTX 3070
>RT 5600x

>>393484476
>just like how it used to be streamers that got the golden throne.
Speaking of streamerfags, what's their reaction so far? Twitch streamers are nowhere near as important to VRChat as they used to be, but it's always a popular category on twitch. Do they have #fuckvrchat in their stream titles and such or are they sucking dev dick?

>>393484675
I've been to a vrg meet before. and have met with vrgers another time as well.

who knows maybe you are one of the anons I've met

>>393484904
>Speaking of streamerfags

>>393484904
not all streamers use mods. back in the day they didnt. and even then vrc streaming is not what it used to be. they dont matter anymore, since big time mapmakers are the big source of player numbers now

>>393484980
I definitely haven't met you. I prefer my meetings to be natural therefore I do not interact with vrg. It'll have to be fate.

>>393446247
>>393446004
You don't even need to be patient:
https://forums.abinteractive.net/d/93-uploading-your-first-chilloutvr-avatar
https://developers.abinteractive.net/cck/setup/
https://booth.pm/ja/items/4032295
https://github.com/imagitama/vrc3cvr

Last time I tried it was basically just duplicate project, delete vrc folders from project, install CVR items, and tweak the avatar descriptor after running the av3tocvr converter. I think, i twas like 2 years ago. Physbones needs converting but there's a tool for that now, but generally it's the same process as vrc.

>>393484882
green hell has assloads of foliage which vr dont like as overdraw is particuarly bad in stereo 3d. shit like green hell or the forest are doomed to run like shit.

>Places EAC
>Kills all mods
>Malicious clients can still crash and rip you

>>393484213
just play pokerstars

Okay so anyone who has launched VRChat and installed EAC. Please do me a favor: I'm trying to make a batch file that removes it the second VRChat closes.
please go to C:\Users\Your Username\AppData\Roaming\EasyAntiCheat, open service.log, and if you could, post the string that it installs for a 'product'. I want to see if it's unique or not. It should look like:
[EAC Setup] [5138] [22:31:52:447] [Info] Started with 'install (string of numbers and letters)'.

AFAIK you can remove it with simply supplying the easy anti cheat program located in your steam folder with 'uninstall (that same string)' and it should clean up the driver, the processes, and the system file.
Then the log should have this:
[EAC Setup] [10250] [00:36:18:080] [Info] Started with 'uninstall (same string)'.
[EAC Setup] [10250] [00:36:18:080] [Info] Argument handling done, requested action: 2.
[EAC Setup] [10250] [00:36:18:092] [Info] Operation 2 completed successfully.

This version has no GUI so you can't launch and uninstall it like you normally would in other games.

>>393485693
tl;dr I'm tryign to see if the product ID (that string of numbers and letters) will change. If it won't then it's as simple as making a shortcut on my desktop, but I can only know that if other people have the same product ID I do.

>log into vrchat after update to hit up the pug
>all the weird degens ragequit the game so it's just pure kino.
Just like the good old days.

>>393485693
Started with 'install a4a57ff548934**********62cdf9f34'.

>>393482757
>tfw twice the size of most of the dancers
do I have to make a loli version again ?

>>393486070
this is the furthest thing from truth

>>393486192
Same here
a4a57ff548934dbeba0cc7c62cdf9f34
I think it's the same string for everybody, that's good news. So to remove it after using it, put a link on your desktop that references it with 'uninstall a4a57ff548934dbeba0cc7c62cdf9f34' at the end.

>>393485465
>tfw can't even launch the game right now the servers are so hammered

>>393486070
you're full of shit and you weren't around for the "good old days"

>>393485606
I played it back when the halo boys first played, never got into it when the jerma guy started hosting it again, you guys always did play at a bad time for me

do you feel that?
fresh clean air.
for one brief fleeting moment
record numbers of furries and trannys are not logging in.

>>393487604
Now all that's left are 13 year olds.

>>393487604
>record numbers of furries and trannys are not logging in.
not true
pypy was full of people

I don't play VRchat enough to know but how often do you encounter malicious players in it who crash or grief you? Is it kind of an actual thing?

>>393487939
a teddy bear does not count as a furry

>>393488217
>how often do you encounter malicious players in it who crash or grief you?
If you go in to public worlds? Fairly often.

>>393488217
It happens like once every hour in public instances. Most of hte time the most grief you get are annoying kids or micspam (and i enjoy the micspam most of the time, it breaks dull monotonous conversation)

I imagine it's much higher right now

>>393488217
i've had it happen to me once in 900 hours and that one time was a friend who i asked what a crasher avatar looked like

>>393485473
Damn, I really like the game, too
Should I just cope with perma-ASW as to avoid the constant hitching? All the Car/Flight sim people do it...
Its comfy and fun

>>393488295
Neither does kemono

>>393484904
I've seen some of the bigger ones toeing the line due to dev connections.
Most of them seem to just be staying quiet though. It's not really in the cards for them to boycott VRC or anything if they don't have alternate content and Neos/CVR haven't properly taken off yet. Sucking dev dick is pretty pointless if the devs aren't asking for a favor too, since it'll just piss off a portion of their audience.
I only saw one streamer that I know taking an active public stance against it, but they use mods pretty heavily to the point where it probably interferes with their streams to a degree.

There are big youtubers (Like 3M+ subs) starting to make videos on it. I saw a recommendation on Youtube's front page on it.
It'll be the next big backlash real soon.

>>393488217
I get crashed roughly once per session (I only play on the weekends, but I do spend time in publics). I'm reluctant to call it griefing because it's not targeted harassment, more of a harassment shotgun. I've only once ever been crashed in an event (inv+) instance in over 2000 hours playing.

Backlash or not, people are still gonna go back to VRC because of two main things:
- It's where their friends are
- It's still a better platform even without mods

However, everyone who is away for a bit should hopefully make CVR content and experience the platform, making switches easier and quicker next time VRC does something. The only thing stopping them from immediately turning around and selling mod features back to users is that they're retardedly slow devs.

>>393485465
1000 internets to you anon

>>393489287
I think they're going to go back on it. It's getting PR backlash now in gaming press, the next week determines if they think the bad PR is worth it or not

Hammering. Slamming. Pounding. ChilloutVR.

>>393489454

>>393489739
And it's only the first day, wait until streamers start talking about it.

>>393489454
No fucking way they're going back on it after releasing another message today specifically saying they are not going back on it.
They've dug in their heels and are prepared to die on this hill

>>393489454
>>393489932
I think they're in a position where they've been told by the investors that they have to do this.

>>393489932
Reading their messaging they planned to do this months ago, and spent the last couple months just scoping out the backlash. They were mentally prepared for review bombing and such already, but they have higher business goals of selling mods back to users that they feel like they need to pursue.

>>393489932
I don't think their morals are as set in stone as people believe
I think they believe they're playing chicken with their community

>>393490006
no, vrchat is perfectly capable of being this stupid on their own without outside pressure. Consider past behavior.

>>393489926
>streamers, youtubers were contacted a week ago and told of the coming EAC update
>t.Thrill
wonder who took the money and will start shilling how much EAC has improved the game ?

>>393488217
https://files.catbox.moe/l39vbk.webm
You're more likely to find shit in the sewers.

>>393488457
tfw no one ever replies to me

>>393490213
update that purges all niggers when?

>>393490256
reject modernity
return to garry's mod

>>393490213
LIGARD TITS

>>393489287
not this time. Not for me. this proves we shouldnt put our eggs in one basket.

Im gonna put my money where my mouth is. Im not anyone important enough to change anything, but at least I'll have I dunno, a backbone I guess.

>>393489454
theyve been preparing this for months.
this is a cold calculated business decision. lose some users now, but have a locked down platform they can shill to investors. there hasn't been any passion in vrc since 2019. when it established itself as top dog, and as a gravy train for it's devs. if they ever cared at all.

you think they care about bad press? it will last until the next big news item. they are looking longer term. way longer term. the potential investment in the platform is more than worth the goodwill and playercount hit of a chunk of users who they are better off without anyway, seeing as they are too strong willed and not easily herded.

No, they want the sheep. the ones who blanketly believe anything the dev team says, and only care about the patreons they donate to.

>>393472134
I may still play but I will never make content for VRC again. There is no point.

>>393490410
>>393491890
Eh you'll feel the need to come back after the rage wears off. This notion shouldn't offend you, it's normal human behaviour to return to habits.

>>393492192
I'm already over vrchat

>>393492289
If you aren't working on a CVR project right now you'll be back in a week.