/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1434

First for VR dog girls! Wan wan!

>>426336496 (OP)
First for revealing Krial’s heinous acts against the VRchat community and finally hitting the last nail in the coffin!

>>426338029
what'd he do? shit your diaper?

>>426338529
he tried, but it was already dirty

Should I?
Or is it better to wait until bundled

>play a flatscreen game after months of just VR
>finally have some fun

bros... is VR a meme?

>>426338651
hey buddy i think you got the wrong door. The furry club is two blocks down.

>>426338787
The novelty will wear off and you'll realise it's the same shit you've been playing for that past 15 years again.

Chess, mahjong in 1h https://vrch.at/5tf0b2dt

Final results for last week's Dirt Rally 2.0 event in Sweden. Was pretty tricky, but RWD snow driving is fun. Better luck next time to those that got DQed.
This week, we'll be running Group A in Scotland. You have until the usual time next Monday to get your runs done, club link is in the OP if you need it.

>>426340457
which mahjong rule point i should learn first

>>426341929
Tanyao

Vroom vroom

>>426338651
No way of knowing if they'll be in a bundle or not, if you really want them, go for it.

It was all downhill from here

>>426342213
>>426342727
Do you have a wheel and wear your headset or do you use something else?
I tried the VR wheel before but I couldn't get used to it

apologize.

>>426338029
t. crinkler

>>426342213
>>426342727
I wish I'd been recording, fighting over 2nd place was fun.
>>426343126
Assetto doesn't really work well without a wheel.
Controller is usable on Dirt Rally though, so you could grab that sometime if you don't want to get a wheel yet.

>>426343876
I had a hunch, thanks anon
I've got the money to spare so I might look into buying one, always had a blast playing racing games

>>426344093
Racing games are basically 40% of my playtime on VR, its just so much better than flatscreen

>>426344093
It's definitely worth it if you have any interest in racing sims. They're great in VR.

H-hi... Umm... C-could anyone maybe t-tell me where the current m-meetup is taking place...? O-on VRChat...?

>>426344740
*rapes you*

>>426329405 (Cross-thread)
Thanks for joining! That was a fun car just enough to be interesting to control! Although sometimes just too hard!

Nice race, GG, next time something a bit faster, but similar:
Group C

>>426344871
W-wha...!

>>426344740
there is chess, there is anime multibox, mahjong soon, and people just exploring randomly.

new index cable coming in today, woohoo

>>426340457
Mahjong https://vrch.at/5hfgtwyq
>>426341929
Just join and I'll teach you

>>426344916
headless driver spoopy

Is it true people moved from vrchat to ChilloutVR?

>>426348053
oh definitely

>>426348053
they left and came right back

My Pico 4 will arrive on Sunday. What games should I play first, I have zero experience in VR. Hooking it up to a PC of course

>>426341857
First time driving on ice and with the historic RWD, it was really tough. Hard to break the habit of using the throttle to straighten up in the corners and even on straights there was such a fine line between going fast and starting to spin.

>>426349483
Congratulations on your new Pico 4 VR headset! As a beginner to VR, there are many exciting games and experiences that you can try. Here are a few recommendations to get you started:

Beat Saber - This rhythm game has you slicing and dodging blocks to the beat of catchy music. It's a great way to get moving and test out the Pico 4's tracking capabilities.

Superhot VR - In this game, time only moves when you do. Dodge bullets and take out enemies in slow motion, feeling like you're in your own action movie.

The Lab - This is a collection of mini-games and experiences created by Valve, the makers of the SteamVR platform. It's a great introduction to VR and will help you get used to the Pico 4's controllers.

Job Simulator - This humorous game puts you in a world where robots have taken over all jobs, so you get to simulate what it was like to be a human worker. It's a fun way to experiment with VR interactions and try out different jobs.

Moss - In this charming adventure game, you play as a small mouse exploring a magical world. It's a great showcase of the Pico 4's immersive visuals and 3D audio.

Remember to take breaks and adjust the settings to your comfort level. Have fun exploring your new VR headset!

>>426349709
Thanks Bing

>>426349709
Are you the nigger who makes VR threads on /v/ and then spams them with absolutely normalfaggy chatgpt replies?
For what purpose?

I spare this naked retard on four separate occasions then the moment he gets a weapon he kills me. Why is everyone in video games such a fucking nigger? I despair.

>>426350206
Nope, I don't post on /v/.

>>426350297
Trying to make a friend in Tarkov is as fucked up as trying to IRL marry through VRChat

>>426350434
Why do they do it though? I would never. I'd feel like shit.

>>426349483
I've had mine for 10 days now and it's also my first VR experience. I tried pistol whip native and I felt somewhat fine, little bit dizzy but nothing bad. Then contractors and moving your character around for the first 30 minutes is extremely nauseous, however if you stick to it and keep on trying it'll be manageable. A week later and I'm done with all the hl2 games in VR and those are pretty fast paced in term of movement but I've got no more vr sickness anymore. So yeah, I think you should take break when it becomes unbearable but then you should also get back into it asap so you can build your tolerance in one go.

>>426350297
Can you play in a group in tabor?

>>426350760
Honor and fairness are completely foreign concepts for 95% of the human population.
They might pretend it's not the case to virtue signal in public, but, given chance, they would always act like absolute niggers.

>>426350760
Never heard of people who try to "gotcha" nice people back? it's some sort of "You-are-not-better-than-me" stuff

also they don't give it too much meaning, maybe he doesn't even recognizes you, bird-like memory

>>426351050
Yes.

frens

Doing EMUVR later tonight at 9:45PM CDT.

Download the required Roms and Bios from:
https://mega.nz/file/SugQ2ZJQ#qBA2lq2TrMk3-Kj7L7UbktBmKofyCajweVfaFI4Fg7E
And then follow this to install the game and figure out the game scanner:
https://www.emuvr.net/wiki/Installation_Guide

>>426349483
Alyx, Vertigo 1 and 2, Budget cuts 1 and 2, Wanderer, Myst, Groundhog day, Sniper Elite VR, Nightstar: starfighter, half life2 vr, the last clockwinder

>>426350297
>>426351075
>maybe he doesn't even recognizes
honestly this, if I even "befriend" someone and then we go our separate ways I never backstab
no necessarily in tabor but there were a few occasions when I "accidentally backstabed" someone because I didn't recognize them from afar

>>426352239
>>426351075
It was literally 10 seconds after the third screen.

>>426349483
Boneworks, dont get Bonelab, Derail valley, Evasion, Eye of the temple, Falcon age, Form, GORN, Hyperbolica, i expect you to die 1 and 2, Into the radius, Jetborn Island, VTOL VR, The mages tale, Ssrious sam vr, transpose, Walking dead saints and sinners, vox machinae, windlands 1 and 2

>>426351620
any updates to the download or am I all set with the one from last time still

>>426354634
Added (2) Sega Genesis Games recommended by an Oldie, (1) SNES game with good music, and Bios & Roms for Sega Saturn Netplay testing.

>>426337180
Monster Maid May

How do I know which resolution gets passed to the game?
I'm playing Lone Echo 2 with revive and virtual desktop on my headset.
Does the steamvr resolution applies through revive? In Lone Echo 1 I could boot the game directly via VD and it was the occulus API and I could run that game easily at 1.5x res in the settings but LE2 chugs on high settings at 1.0x on my 4080

>>426355380
LE2 runs like shit in general.

>>426355826
I'm noticing it's not using a lot of GPU while the previous game was hitting 80% usage easily

hello fellow vr enthusiasts who may or may not have purchased an rdna3 gpu, or perhaps plan to
please ensure that your virtual reality application is selected as the foreground app in windows 10 or else you will have a bad time :)

>>426356426
exhibit A: a bad time

>>426356426
>>426356662
By foreground you mean making it the active window by clicking on it?

pssst
Tuesday's movie is Showdown in Little Tokyo
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102915/

Two L.A. cops with opposing views on what is the best way to uphold the law have to work together to bring down the Yakuza, while trying to protect a beautiful woman.

starting at 19:00 UTC as usual!

>>426356863
yep

>>426355967
useage is worthless indicator, look at CPU/GPU frametimes

>>426337071 (Cross-thread)
Thanks for coming. We'll be watching Gundam: the Witch from Mercury season 2, Mahou Shoujo Magical Destroyers, Mashle and Kawaisugi Crisis. Starting thursday at 7PM UTC+1

fellow psycho enjoyer. in 30 minutes?

>>426350297
Free kill is free kill, he was naked, you had some gear, why should he not kill you in game where explicit goal is to kill everyone and steal everything?

>>426347643 (Cross-thread)
Fall 2021. I immediately had to RMA the antenna and PCIe card and potentially got fairly new hardware.
My first unit would only work when connected directly to the PCIe card without the cable, and I used it that way for a couple of weeks.
The antenna sitting near the floor at the back of my computer is clearly a terrible configuration, and it's the only time I experienced the resolution dropping.
Picture related.

>>426359994
I am currently stuck in a mahjong game but yes, be there or be square

>>426344740
Where have you been sis?

how do i make an mmd a vrc avatar

>>426363807
>import into blender using mmd tools
>optionally use cats to automate a lot of the process
>please optimize
>export fbx
>import to unity
>add avatar bits
>upload

Sorry sweat enjoyers but some serious work stuff came up so EARLY PYPY will not happen again till Thursday, after which it will be regularly scheduled from 8PM EST to 10PM EST on the usual Monday, Tuesday, Thursday schedule. This is also a reminder that early pypy is an ADDITION to regular to NA pypy and not a replacement. Apologies for the last minute notice! please forgive me.....

I installed vrchat again after a while and everyone looks like this online what the fuck do i do?
my pc has a lot of space still

>>426365865
your distance hider probably defaulted to 1m or the amount of people shown is like 1
go into settings and find it (good luck lmao) and set them to something reasonable
I use 10m and no limit to those shown in that distance

>>426364391
Anyone still wanna meet for early pypy?

>>426366201
you fixed it
thank you so much man

>>426196175 (Cross-thread)
Sorry for the delay.
Here
https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/fantasy-character/oniichan-wa-oshimai-vrchat

>>426366219
I'm debating with myself

This will be your boat for tonight. Say something nice about her!

>>426369132
boring

>>426369132
would be good if you ditched the gem gimmick

>>426360410
>pic
wtf
The issues i have could also be because of the AMD cpu and gpu. nvideaand intel are probably better for the wireless setup.

>>426369856
yea the intel wireless solution notoriously disliked ryzen motherboards

>>426351620
Doing EMUVR later tonight at 9:45PM CDT.

Download the required Roms and Bios from:
https://file.vrg.party/EmuVR20230417.zip
And then follow this to install the game and figure out the game scanner:
https://www.emuvr.net/wiki/Installation_Guide

>>426369132
should have made the hair into gem hair instead of a wig

>>426349661
Yeah, the narrow roads didn't help either, not a lot of space to catch a slide.

has anyone gotten these nikke mmds to work in vr chat? every time I try to fix it in blender shit gets weird looking

>>426376046
>>426369132
When very drunk

>>426376046
WL and M

>>426376046
mori

>>426376046
Mori

>>426376046
mori

hello it's pypy time:
https://vrch.at/2qfhnzqk
or join on Lycosella

>>426376046
TheFireMarco

>>426376046
R but one of the B's stands for Bri'ish

oop forgot to post this for yesterdays golf

I'm considering getting Moe, does Maya hairs fit her or do the head shape changed completely compared to Maya?
I have a ton of them and can't barely use blender to adapt them.

>>426382443
fit what you want in blender retard

>>426369132
Please sit on me~

>>426351620
>>426370215

Okay, it's up now, join code is IGGADBPL

Workout starting shortly~
Pls join https://vrch.at/num8rr5a
or Definitely Not A Cat

>>426382771
Do you have any video that can guide me?
I tried for 1 hour with scales but it never fits right without looking like an Annunaki

>>426362924
I've been doing a lot of things... some VR games, some MMORPGS, some hobbies...

>>426387349
elastic deform tool in sculpt mode. You can L select different parts of the mesh and go to separate by selection so you can fit different parts without the sculpt tools effecting the rest.
Then you can ctrl+j the parts of the hair mesh back together when you're done.

loadsa REAL GAMERS playing REAL GAMES in VR

>>426390131
so when does the gay sex start during this sleepover

>>426382183
+33 par. how is that possible lmao

>>426390198
mom says the door stays open

>>426343126
Real wheel, wearing my headset. Using the G29.

>>426344093
Oh man if you like racing games having a wheel in VR is pretty much the best racing experience short of buying a full sim chair too

>>426390131
Thanks to everyone who came, enxt time we'll see if the Playstation 1 works since the saturn was going well

Qualifying went well

hmmmm

>>426346478
My cable is starting to break should I buy a new one?

Beautiful car

>>426367013
Tranny or not zhe is cute as a loli

>>426397105
Diaper moment

good pypy all, rip N
next NA pypy is tomorrow Tues 10 PM ET / 7 PM PT

>>426397883
they are actually foot sexxing in the center of the picture also
1234556678910
lmao

Quest 2 or Reverb G2? The only games I'm likely going to play on it are HLA, VRchat, and Beat Saber.

should I?

Group practice was interesting

>>426398305
Q2.

>>426398305
I've heard that everything on the G2 is better except for controller tracking, so that might be a deal breaker for beat saber

>>426398596
Yes

Showing the first Gurren Lagann movie tonight at 10PM EDT (a little under 20 hours from now) for NA anime movie night. I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

>>426398305
Quest 2 since the tracking is better for Beat Saber. I wouldn't recommend a G2 unless you were planning on playing a ton of sims and not as worried about the controllers.
>>426398860
Beat Saber was playable on my older WMR headset, but I'd definitely recommend something else if it's one of the few games someone is interested in.

>>426398715
How forward!

>>426398305
As a G2 owner I'd say go pico 4 or Q2. For vrchat It rly sucks not having sensory trackers on your hands you basically can only make handgestures. For beat saber the tracking is ok but not the best. The display is very high res so if you have a good PC that's the big plus

>>426407696
The G2 is something I'd recommend when paired with the lighthouse system; when you basically glue a tracker to the headset and use lighthouse controllers it turns into one of the best platforms in VR right now. But expensive. And if you're going expensive you probably want eye tracking or something.

>>426407820
That's true but you'll be spending a lot more than just buying an index so unless you wanna burn cash (unlikely if anon was asking between G2/Q2) then this isn't a viable option

>>426407956
Yeah, just wanted to share that the G2 if it wasn't for the controller tracking would be the headset to get.

>>426349483
buy and use virtual desktop instead of pico application - it solves problems with sound, graphics and stability

>>426353410
>Evasion
is it true it's a 3 hour game?

>>426398596
already did

>>426369856
Until recently I was using this setup with a 6800xt paired with a 5900x and it all ran without any problems.

To those of you actually playing VR games, which one do you prefer?

>items fall on the ground, haver to pick them up by leaning down
>items fall on the ground, can pick them up remotely
>items fall on the ground, auto picked up when walking over them
>items hover in the air for easy manual pick up

>>426414385
It really depends how much picking up you're doing. For something like HL2 where stuff drops like candy and there's always pickups I just wanna run over it. If it's like you pick up a couple things every hour then I would prefer to pick them up manually; usually off a desk or something rather than the floor though.

>>426414631
I'd also compare and contrast what the item is as well; wrist or backpack storage should be a staple of VR: just copy what works well. Although I like chest and hip storage too, but it's hard to get the body always aligned with the head, an when you bend down it becomes all fucky.

>>426414631
Talking about HL2 I think it was well down. You have a long grab range so you can pick stuff up without crouching and if you wish you can swap to the gravity gun and then using your other hand to grab the thing.
On the otherspectrum there's contractors where the grab hitbox of things hitting the ground is super small and it's waste of time to crouch and try to grab things, and then there's other games where you point your finger at something far away and it instantly pops into your hand which I don't like at all.

video games.

>>426414385
I'm liking in Tabor needing to actually move to pick shit up, but i have set my floor about 5cm higher than my real floor so it's less shit slamming my hands into the floor

I’m off work in like, 15, and will be ready to tabor in like 45, anyone wanna join me?

>>426396810
RMA it first

>>426414385
Option 2 via something like the Alyx glove or even just point and select is best I think if there's a lot of drops

>>426415995
boneworks telekenisis is decent, point and it teleports to your hand is crap
alyx glove was by far the most satisfying to use

>>426415961
Off to the meet!

Can someone explain, what do you guys actually DO at a vrc meetup?
I'm never, ever going to join one because VR is for FPS and racing games

>>426417280
Talk about how much we've been drinking or smoking

>>426417280
Talk, explore worlds, play games, drinking on weekends, dance at dance events, sing at karaoke

>>426417280
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhtEKCqmvU4

N I G G E R
I
G
G
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>>426417280
Basically the same thing you do with your irl frien... oh nevermind. We talk to each other its called "hanging out".

>>426417280
its in the name you just stand around and chat

very common human activity you know

>>426408976
A bit longer, but yea, shortish and fun, especially in 2 player coop

>>426418110
The design is very human

>>426417280
https://streamable.com/lfhtw

nothing amazing

can we bring back the separate gaming threads again?

>>426418887
Try it if you want but it'll die just like the last dozen attempts.

>>426418887
feel free to try, I think it'd we'd be on attempt #5 now if I recall correctly

>>426417280
Just namefags normalizing normalfaggotry ignore it

>>426417280
VRchat player types
From my observation we have these types of people:
1) Chatters (self-explanatory, is in it for the social element)
2) Particlefags (chuunis that really like the sense of power of COOL they can create in the game)
3) Alcoholics (Like chatters but enjoy it while drunk)
4) Explorers (Exploration of new visual worlds and new game worlds a like. Completion and discovery of new things. Hundreds of new worlds per week. Finding hidden gems)
5) Avatar Creators
5.1) Clothing and base model cuteness min maxers (Artist fashion designers)
5.2) Tricks and useability functions (programmers and prefab makers)
5.3) Cosplayer
6) Map Creators
6.1) Map Visual (Artist landscapers and chill and comfy world creators)
6.2) Game design (These are the gamedevs that delve in the programming and prefab part of map making)
7) Killers, Crashers and Hackers (Revels in finding ways of breaking the game for themselves and others)
8) Photographers (Likes taking photos of interesting things both for Avatars and Maps)
9) Lewders (I'm cooooming. People who like the next step of virtual Erotic Role Play. The added sense of presence really make it an amazing virtual degeneracy)
10) Eventfags (People that are part "chatter" but also part "creator". They enjoy hosting and making events that other people would partake in. Seeing others have fun on the event they have meticulously crafted is the reward that they seek.)
11) Streamers ($$$)
12) Loners (Likes to be alone but plays an MMO)
13) E-girls (sub-group of chatters but goes in for attention and orbiters)
14) Furries (Chatters but they like being animals)
15) Dancers (Likes to move it in FBT)
16) Musically inclined (Tries to simulate and sync music through the 800 ping of VRchat)
17) Boardgame autists (Mahjong, chess, checkers etc)
18) Watcher (Anime, movie, tv watcher using VRchat video player with other people)
19) Drug users (tinctures and pretty colors)
Extra
sleepers, desktoppers, quest kids, commun leader, ASL etc.

real esl hours

breachers is fun

>>426420109
no its not

>>426414385
Anything except physically bending over onto the floor. Fuck that.
If it's a common pickup like ammo, just walking over it should be sufficient. For weapons or uncommon items, I like remote grabby stuff. I think Alyx's gravity gloves are the best one so far.

>>426415829
Might Taboor soon, whomst?

One of my Vive Tracker 2.0's doesn't seem to charge any more - if I plug it in, the light comes on and I can turn it on, but it appears to have no battery. If I unplug it, it immediately turns off and wont respond if I press the power button. Is there any way to recover it?

If not, is the Vive Tracker 3.0 the way to go for a replacement?

>>426421839
It's probably fucked. You can try replacing the firmware by plugging it into your PC but if that doesn't work you are out of luck. Since it's a 2.0 you are probably well past an RMA. Get a 3.0 tracker instead.
Beware, buying a 3.0 is quite likely to make you want to replace your other 2.0's too. The battery lasts like twice as long (almost exactly as long as the index controllers) which is nice if you don't have battery bank straps.

>>426421839
You could try replacing the battery: the battery model is the B2PYV100 and there's decent availability on aliexpress and maybe ebay. Results may vary per battery: I ordered 3 from 3 different places: 1 arrived just fine and works fine, 1 arrived just fine but the battery was worse than the original, and 1 hasn't arrived (yet?).
Replacing them isn't too hard: just keep in mind there's 3 screws in the base, and you can unscrew the boards rather than unplug the ribbon cables.

I'd try this if it works while plugged in.

>>426420665
belly too big to bend huh

Here's an image someone else posted

Unscrewed it looks like this

I've done it a couple times and took my own photos but these are the ones I have on hand; here you can see tht you can just unscrew the board and pop out the battery (don't pierce it)

>>426422261
No, I'm just really tall and my floor height is fucked and the base stations don't always reach there. Bending over every 10 seconds gets old.

>>426421223
krial I'll be on in a bit, just taking care of some shit. or u can msg me wherever, i dont mind using ingame voice

I currently have a 5600x and 3060 ti with 32GB of 3200 RAM. Should I:

Upgrade to a 5800x3D and either a 3090 or 4070 ti/4080

Or

Upgrade to AM5 and a B650 board, DDR5 RAM, and a 7800x3D and a 3090 or 4070 ti/4080

The latter is obviously more expensive but is it worth it to upgrade now and future proof a bit?

>>426426089
I would say 7800x3D as AM4 is end of life.
Also go with 3090 for the VRAM if you play VRC.

>>426426089
7800X3d and 4080 is currently the most kino build right now for VRC. 16GB of VRAM is enough, you don't need 24.

>>426426089
7800x3d (because its amazing rn being AM5 and the 3d cache) and 3090 (for the vram)

I would highly recommend not cucking yourself with a 3090; you will sit in instances at 99% GPU usage and 12GB of VRAM used.

>>426420243
>>426420109
Is this another vail ?

>>426427004
yes

>>426426089
If you're smart and buy on black Friday the 5800x will probably be around $230 and a 3090/4080 will probably be $900

AT BEST a 7800x3D will be $370, a B650 will be $180 and 32GB of DDR5 is going to be $100. Factor in the GPU and is a 20% performance gain worth $700?

>>426427029
Fuck damn it. When will we get a new good multiplayer fps ? Or is it really that hard?
>>426426863
Future proofing

>>426427170
Just wait 7 months bro

just stop being poor. buy what you want

>>426427339
Never. To make VRFPS really good it has to be made for PCVR first and foremost with Quest being separate at most. At the same time if you do that you'll die just like VAIL because PCVR doesn't have enough users to sustain another multiplayer FPS when Pavlov already exists.

>>426427339
>>426426089
>Future proofing
It doesn't work.
You are not going to futureproof yourself with b650 board.
Next gen of gpu is pcie5.
And ada is especially bad gen to future proof on.
Blackwell is expected to be a massively new arch and nvidia needs to build good public opinion again, just like after Turing, so prices should be pretty good.
The only good features from Ada are raytracing ones, which are of limited use.

Buy what you absolutely need right now and save the money, then buy new things later.
You are going to drop frames in VRchat regardless.

>>426414385
>items fall on the ground, haver to pick them up by leaning down
This. The more realism, the better.

>>426428206
I can barely touch the ground bro.. be nice

>>426426089
Assuming you have an x570 or a decent B550, I would just buy a 5800x3D. The 7800x3D is no doubt better but is it $120 better? Factor in a $200 board and $150 RAM.

>>426360138
>explicit goal is to kill everyone and steal everything?
Oh, it's this autist again.

>>426426543
>suggesting a 4080 at its MSRP

>>426431579
All graphics cards at their MSRP are ripoffs. It's like soviet russia, if you want the consumer luxury, you need to pay for it.

It is Pavlov day!

>>426433634
*steals your magazine*

>>426434220
*puts a new one in*

>>426434834
*steals your magazine*

>>426436171
*steals YOUR magazine*

Anyone have a tutorial how to make a toggle to switch between more than two outfits?

also doing some shader finagling and I think I am getting to it

>>426438956
i just use this: https://github.com/Joshuarox100/VRC-Inventory-Inventor
allows you to create groups so when you enable one thing it disables another.

>>426438956
Use an int parameter and switch between 3 or more states depending on how many outfits you have. Each animation should turn on the outfit you want and turn off the others. It's not much different from having a single outfit toggle.
Though if you have that many outfits you're pushing it a little and should consider putting them on separate avatars instead. It's a good way to get hidden based on egregious VRAM usage or a lot of materials/meshes.

>>426438956
>toggle to switch between more than two outfits?
please dont

>>426439398
Maybe you should switch from 1060 to something never instead?

>>426438956
what other anon said, in an outfit layer you can use an int parameter, but for me I use empty animation states and use the vrc parameter driver script and set it up as a button in my menus

>>426439542
I'm on a 4090. Maybe you shouldn't use toribase models if you're gonna do multiple outfits

>>426438956
There's no reason to have mutliple outfits on the same avatar unless your purposely want to be hidden by default by the vast majority of people

>>426440009
Your not on a 4090 faggot

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>>426441241
Cope

>>426442447
Not yours faggot.

>>426439398
this

>>426442592
cope x2

>>426442726
>GPU so fucking overweight it has a built in level measurement
lol
lmao

>learn to play mahjong
>nobody plays mahjong outside of vrg

you guys lied to me

>>426442726
How new are you? Where is the timestamp?

>>426439542
Don't know what these anons are on about, you're a grey robot or a fallback for me.
I have 16GB of VRAM but if I showed the avatar of every 300MB brainlet that's too stupid to optimize, it would run out before the average NA instance fills up.
There are limits even with decent hardware.

You can have multiple outfits and still be optimized, retards

>>426442945
mjg does

>>426443475
not in my eyes dumbass

>>426442945
lmao you are a fucking nerd now tough luck!

>>426443475
I have seen maybe 1 person with multiple outfits that didn't hog more than 100 MB of VRAM by themselves
The kind of people that put every outfit on 1 avatar are also the people that don't optimize their stuff. Too afraid of touching blender for the most part

>>426443698
>>426443670
I have 3 or 4 on my avatar and it's medium. It's a skill issue, there are plenty of retards with shit optimization even with just one outfit too.

>>426443843
>medium
lol
lmao
vrchat perf rankings are not a good metric of how "optimized" you are

>>426443891
How do you know to hide them then, if vrchat isn't telling you?

>>426443891
when was the last time you launched vrchat anon? Clearly not since they added the new metrics to the avatar ratings.

>>426356426
which one did you get?

>>426444006
vrchat doesn't give me the options I wish I could use to hide by default
if I could, I would hide anything worse than good, but they only let you hide worse than medium
>>426444028
wow they added REALLY generous vram thresholds
your point?

>>426444057
7900xtx

>>426444172
Having a few meshes to make an avatar medium is hardly a dent on performance, with the distance based avatar hider at least. Their system certainly isn't perfect, but tell me what about the medium threshold that is so bad for performance?

>>426422540
Thanks anon

Anyone got any physbones suggestions/tips/value tables or even explanations on values?

>>426444390
the performance rankings were always made extremely lazily, usually in powers of 2 because they put zero thought into them
i would hide people using a filesize and vram threshold combo if I could but vrchat's dev team is clueless and did not add that option, instead thinking that 110mb is acceptable as (((medium)))
75mb as (((good))) is fucking stupid as well and 40mb on (((excellent))) is still a joke
anime models should not need to take up a lot of vram, and most of /vrg/ are using anime style models

>he still thinks he's people

>>426443891
Yes, they are a good metric. Are they a perfect metric? No. But if you know about optimization they're good enough.

>>426444883
see >>426444740

>>426444740
They're a bit generous on vram, but even so, you'd have to have about 40 people within your avatar-hiding distance to take up enough vram to have a decent performance impact no? I wish they'd add a perf rank for filesize though, that would be nice. 10mb or less for good, 25 for medium, 35 for poor, 50 for very poor, or something.

My medium avatar with 4 outfits doesn't take anywhere near that much vram

>>426445083
i can assure you the game is not purging the vram of people hidden by distance on the fly like you apparently assume it is
they barely even added in vram clearing after a mod had enabled it for a good while and the devs finally noticed when they were attending events that people basically relied on that mod to not crash

>>426444947
If you read that post it's about claims. Firstly, why is power of 2 a bad metric? Why is 75MB as good a joke?
You never say why.
Multiple VRAM from an avatar by 80 and if it's under 8GB it's not very poor. Ez.

>>426445330
anon do some simple napkin math
>80 * 75mb = 6000mb
the average pcvr pleb prob has 8gb of vram
there's not a whole lot of space left for OS, steamvr, vrchat itself and the world if you're sitting in that full instance, and that's assuming EVERYONE is at or below that "good" threshold
if you're hitting your disk to swap out vram from active memory, you're having a bad time
and I can assure you that the vast majority of players are not rated "good"

>>426445267
>i can assure you the game is not purging the vram of people hidden by distance on the fly like you apparently assume it is

works on my machine

>>426445651
gonna need a citation on that one anon

With 24Gb Vram there can be 80x250mb avatars in an instance and that would only be 24gb of vram.
Yet this "I have a 4090" advocates hiding shit to an level of 6gb vram.
Really makes you think, what you gonna use the rest of the 18gb for?

>>426445695
I'll check my performance monitor next time I'm on for you anon

>>426445715
>game on its own at 4k uses ~5.5-6gb of vram
gee i wonder

>>426444172
ask me how I know you are eastern european

>>426438956
Just upload 2 different avatars please, having multiple outfits on one upload effects everyone's fps in an instance

>>426445563
You're right, it's a bit high. But most of the time you're not in a 80 person instance. Pull that down to 60 people and it's good. Your standards are simply too high; 80 person has lots of reasons it's poorly performing; Animation controller layers being the BIIIG one. My GPU is not strained in those big instances, it's always my CPU.
But it's not that bad. When you actually analyze people's VRAM usage (and I did), 20% of the avatars take up 60% of the VRAM. Or something I should actually run the numbers.

>>426446408
sorry but I have roughly one of the highest end system configurations you can get right now

>>426446689
anon i hate to break it to you but
>60 * 75mb = 4500mb
>4500mb + 5500mb = 10000mb
there's a slight problem here for anyone who is still a vramlet at or below 10gb VRAM

>>426443475
Not with any toribase though

>>426447047
When I load into an instance by myself I'm not using 4.5GB of VRAM. It's more like 2-3.

>>426447243
so worst case you have 500mb of vram as headroom if everyone in that 60 person world is rated good
that'll easily get filled by one or two booths

>>426447337
You know how big avatar's VRAM can get. If EVERYONE was below 75MB this would be an improvement and you know it. Yes this is moving the goalposts but the entire point is that 75MB is very generous but is still FAR BELOW what some people put out. I see shit and it's like 300MB+ sometimes

I put my limit at 5mb and only enable people who actively look at me

I also disable any kind of big titty monster

>>426447692
I just close VRC.exe to save my VRAM.

>>426447692
Uhm, based? 13700k and 4090 here. I have no perf blocking on at all. I do hide any avatar with cowtits though

>anons are so used to vrchat's shitty performance that they all forget that VR should be 90hz or above minimum
its all so tiresome

I'm not paying 1-2 grand for a 3090/4090 just so I can load your godawful booth recolor with 5 outfits. No other game or activity that I do requires a gpu even close to that beefy. I'm just going to hide your bloated avatar

>>426447810
I have 24GB of VRAM and still hide VRAM monsters. Also yes the current trend of INCREASING BREASTSIZE is very upsetting.

Yes I know those breasts are actually on the SMALL SIDE for what's out there I just had to find an image quickly

>>426448009
i run my headset at 72hz. It feels smooth, especially when you consider most headsets going above 90hz are using nearly unnoticeable compression to achieve this. Hitting 72 fps is also much more likely in vrc with my rig in a smallish instance

total titcow death

>>426448137
>>426443475
>load avatar with "6 different outfits" that takes up 200mb vram
>all 6 outfits are interchangeable slutwear from the front page of booth
why don't you just wear no clothes at all you fucking whores

>>426449071
It's an issue of not knowing how to optimize, not an issue of having multiple outfits

>>426449639
anon... you don't think this is optimized do you?

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>>426449718

>>426449843
>anon... you don't think this is optimized do you?

>>426449639
73 is a lot. vrchat is way too generous with vram metrics.

>>426449904
>>426449876
40 of me is only 2.8 GB of vram

>>426449828
Pavlov in 10 mins.

>>426450016
yea and 80 of me is 1.8gb
remove the toggles

>>426449904
Just one 2048x2048 RGBA texture already takes 128MB of GPU memory.

>>426450240
What's your point? how much vram do you need?

>>426450240
your attitude regarding this is why a lot of people don't bother to optimize at all

>>426450285
ive got 24gb my man
avatars that use more vram will typically also use more draw calls
looking at vram alone doesn't answer the whole story but some avatars are especially bad about it of course

>Not just having separate models for each outfit
open menu > click outfit is simpler than hold quick menu > flick to expressions > flick to clothes > flick to outfit, you have no excuse

>>426450324
most don't bother because people all stopped caring
vrchat enabled this behavior and lets people say "OH YEA IM TOTALLY MEDIUM BRO" when their avatar is in fact terrible beyond all belief

>>426450047
I don't have this game T_T

>>426450373
>avatars that use more vram will typically also use more draw calls
Kind of moving the goal, but again, a skill issue rather than an issue of having too many outfits. Unless you mean More VRAM directly translates into more draws because of the technical way it works?

>>426450447
I will ask once again, what is it about medium threshold that is so bad for performance? Almost any of the factors barring shapekeys and filesize are pretty limited in medium

It's 2023 not 2003 you retards, minimum vram should be 16gb if you wanna play VR.
But go around and watch grey robots on your shitty toaster like the poorfag third worlder you are.
Whats next, you also bitch that highway speeds should be 60km/h because your rusty 2001 Peugeot don't have a good enough deformatiom zones?

>>426450280
>>426449904
2048x2048 is 16MB. Forgot to convert bits to bytes.
So 75MB is 4.6x 2048x2048 textures. Do you really NEED more?

Should I get a quest pro? Currently have a quest 2, previoulsy a cv1. I mostly enjoy vrchat and watching movies.
I don't know if I should wait for the Q3, I can comfortably afford 1200€ but it still is a big purchase for me.
Thanks

I will continue to use high download size, high VRAM avatars. If your toaster can't see me, it's your problem not mine.

>>426450734
>it's the current year
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
retard

>>426450734
not when modern gpus cost like twice as much as a headset. I think 8gb should be the gerenal minimum, but if you have less than 12 then you should just use the distance hider and other filtering features in big instances and shut up about muh vram

>>426450862
if you just play vrchat/watch movies you should get some lighthouses and upgrade to the bigscreen beyond when it comes out, since it won't be available for 5 months or so that'll give you some time to come up with the money

>>426450717
its a correlation thing, not moving goalposts
you're doing SOMETHING to use more vram that someone using much less vram won't be doing
I can't believe I have to spell this out but:
>110 MB VRAM allowed
>8 skinned meshes
>16 meshes
>16 material slots
>16 dynamic bone components
>32 dynamic bone transforms
>dynamic bone colliders/collision check counts at all
>16 physbone components
>128 physbone transforms
>16 physbone colliders
>256 physbone collision check count
>24 avatar dynamic contacts
>16 animators
>8 particle systems
>particles at all
>8 physics colliders
>8 phsics rigidbodies
>8 audio sources
start multiplying this all by 40, 60, 80 for the typical pcvr rig

>>426450280
This isn't accurate, plus you're not accounting for the format.
https://docs.unity3d.com/Manual/class-TextureImporterOverride.html#texture-compression-by-quality

>>426450447
In my experience people running around with garbage avatars claiming "dude vrc's performance ranks aren't accurate my very poor avatar is actually optimized please enable my avatar bro" are FAR more common than people gaming the system to inch into medium with a bad avatar

>>426450734
>minimum vram should be 16gb if you wanna play VR.
tell that to nvidia lmao

>>426450976
>>426450878
How about you just optimize your shit instead, you incompetent nigger?
If not for niggers like you, we could have easily have 100+ people plus instances.

>>426451230

>>426451028
I'd love to get the beyond but after trying wireless that's a must for me, I don't want to go back to wired.

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>>426450840
Exactly. My avatars haven't gone above 30mb since I've been aware of the one simple trick to get vram usage down. My avatars are loaded with gimmicks, including a full 10-images slideshow that looks crisp in vr.

>>426450862
quest pro is only worth it if you have stupid money and are willing to modify it for comfort. i'd just wait for the quest 3

>>426450954
Yes, because steam hardware survey is not filled with toasters. Retard.

help

>>426450862
idk how much sense it makes with quest 3 coming out in like octoberish

>>426451127
I corrected myself in >>426450840
And that is accurate. Without any compression of course. BC7 would be 1/4 of that.

>>426450734
>minimum vram should be 16gb if you wanna play VR.
you'd have to get a 90 series Ampere card or at minimum a 4080.
Or get a Radeon card, but most people seem to be unwilling (or unable?) to use them.

>>426451124
So you're saying that someone who uses a lot of vram is likely to be nearly maxing out the constraints of medium? I think that's very rare and unlikely, but it's a good point that if someone really pushed the limits like that then it would be a lot worse performance than just the average medium. VRAM usage is actually very easy to use a lot of, even if you do not have a high value in the other categories. It only takes a few very large textures to start getting way up there. That doesn't mean it's fine to have huge vram usage but I do think it means you are wrong about it indicating a high usage in other categories. My medium avatar is only medium in vram and meshes

>>426451230
I am optimized. If we really wanted to do a 100+ person instance though I would use something even more optimized, because that's a pretty fringe case. I do have different levels of optimization for different instances

>>426450734
What about gpus? Is a 3070 enough?

>>426450862
Been using qpro for about two months now and I love it with a big asterisk. It's not for everyone and is extremely uncomfortable at stock. If you're already used to the quest caveats it's not as bad of a jump from something that just werks like index. I just ordered this, and i've heard nice things about it but ymmv
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>>426451596
no, but they're gonna be using more components related to vram
ie: meshes, skinned mehses, material slots, etc.
why do I have to spell this out so clearly for you just make the fucking correlation in your head anon
they'll either have more smaller bits using those components or just have a stupid fat set of 4k/8k textures instead
a lot of a small thing can be just as bad if not worse than just a bit of a bad thing depending on the scenario

>>426451706
How uncomfortable is the back battery for lying down on a bed or similar? As compared to the stock quest strap

>everytime someone really likes me I feel they are just pretending or lying

how the fuck do I fix this shit

>>426451941
>ie: meshes, skinned mehses, material slots, etc.
How about we just count the bytes together, nigger?
That shit doesn't take a lot of vram. It's mostly textures + mesh. Skinned mesh is barely different from basic mesh, it's just indices for bones for each vertex.

>>426452095
Even if they're pretending they're still going through the motions, so just go along
But also this is a video game general

>>426452282
jesus christ anon
here's caveman terms for you:
>many small things can add up to same byte count as large single thing
>many small things will use more cpu calls to render overall thing
here's your basic bitch example:
>multiple meshes with textures/mats equalling 75mb vram
>one mesh with textures and one material equalling 75mb vram
one will use more draw calls
since both are using 75mb of vram I wouldn't call either one optimized

>>426451941
I see what you mean now, using lots of materials and meshes means you are also probably using a lot of textures in vram. But the medium limit on drawcalls is pretty reasonable, and is also affected by the distance based hiding.

imagine if you fairies put as much thought into playing actual VR games instead of sit around drinking until you don't care if it's gay anymore simulator

>>426451706
i've been using those pads, great improvement especially with the 3d printed fov mod

>>426452740

>>426452564
How much vram do you think "material" takes. Material is a shader program. It doesn't take shit compared to everything else.
It's just mesh+textures.
In a perfect world you would only need one drawcall per material, because you don't need to change the pipeline, dunno how it's implemented in vrchat though.
Pipeline change is "expensive" computationally, but doesn't take a lot of vram.

>>426451464
I mean you're just delusional if you think 16gb is the standard for anything when you look at the new 40s series that isn't even fully out yet only the high end cards are 16 and above. Get a fucking grip

>>426452951
i use material here as a term encompassing textures shader, etc. used for the avatar
this would imply that the assets used for the single material example would be like 4k or 8k textures, perhaps awful shader on top if needed

>>426451983
if you lay your head via the back of your head it's pretty uncomfortable. i have my battery dock attached with velcro though which means you can just remove it when laying

I find it incredible that VRChat seems to know so little about its game that the big boogeyman of what's causing low FPS changes every single year according to them. I remember when it was atlassing everything to 1 texture on every model that was the most important, then it became drawcalls, then it became particles (remember the soft particle ban they did?) then it was IK, then it was this and that and blahblahblah now the newest target is VRAM and constraints and animators and it turns out all that other earlier stuff wasn't actually *as* important as they thought it was so now this is the new bad boogeyman.

>>426453128
next year will be animation layers

>>426452780
Nice. I've been thinking about trying that but my eyelashes already touch my lenses as is

>>426351972
I would add planet Ride, Pavlov and QuizRoad to the mix

>>426453264
just move the lenses a bit further away then

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>>426453128
>>426453252
it's already animation layers. There's no new boogeyman each year, it's an additional boogeyman. All these things factor together. And in fairness, a lot of this are issues with Unity itself(aside from VRAM) and weren't even discovered as flaws in the engine until VRC came along as Unity's first real stress test.
Vram was always an issue and isn't something inherent to vrc or the engine, but people were less likely in the past to have vram monsters than they are now.

>>426451843
>>426453515
are you ok retard

>>426453084
But why mesh data is separate then? Doesn't make sense.
I would bet that for average overweight avatar, 95%+ of vram usage comes from textures and mesh.
And you don't need more than 75MB realistically, you just don't. You can't justify it.

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I don't think it's bad at all but I still get shit vrchat framerates (streaming to quest2 with virtual desktop)
Is there any obvious bottleneck I should update?
Should I sell the entire thing and buy a better rig overall? (Bought it new for 900€ so I think I can sell at a profit)
Please give opinions

>>426453602
you normally don't need anywhere near 75mb either

>>426453660
there's not much you can do about vrchat
see above for the mindsets of people who do not want to optimize their avatar and now multiply that by the normie factor of most other users on vrchat

>>426453660
did you check if the bottleneck is network based

>>426453128
the boogeyman remains as all of those things because they never stopped existing
people
just
don't
fucking
optimize
their
god
damn
avatars

Of all the things to refuse to optimize, VRAM is literally the easiest thing. You only need unity to do it in 99% of cases. Just load up the textures, set off of normal quality to high quality so you lose the ugly compression that made you think you needed your 4k textures on anime girls. Then just bump your texture res down until you see detrimental results to quality. For a little more optimization, use normal quality or even low quality on things like masks, but that's splitting hairs. I did this to get an avatar that was at 500 mb of vram usage at stock import settings down to 30. It's really just that easy

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>>426453895
What's the most cost effective upgrade though? Is vram the biggest player here? I heard vrchat is more cpu than gpu heavy so I'm not sure what's the weak link in my build

>>426453993
Can network be the bottleneck? I'm getting low fps, not lag. I'm interested in what you mean.

>>426454401
vram helps but the main threshold is being below 16gb if you hang out in 80 person instances since that's an easy scenario where texture memory will get swapped into disk as you look around and cause a shitstorm
the easiest way to improve vrchat overall is to get an x3d (3d v-cache) ryzen cpu like the 5800x3d, 7800x3d, or 7950x3d (and lock vrchat to one ccd if chosen)
the game loves having cache; you can hit similar numbers on a silly 13900k system with 8000MHz ram but even that will be unstable unless you're lucky with your hardware

>>426454401
5800x3d or 7800x3d for cpu, biggest vram nvidia gpu you can afford. Shrimple as that

>>426454053
I thought compression didn't matter for vram since it's uncompressed when it is loaded to the vram? But anyway, Most anime models suffer from an obvious loss of quality just going down to 2k from 4k, because all the important parts of the UV tend to all be atlased in with everything else. Having a few big textures is fine, but you will start to see larger vram sizes. If you have a modern gpu and you use the distance hiding it's literally not an issue if you are medium or below

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>>426454834
now you see there's this little technique called adjusting or making your own atlas to emphasize the features you actually need

>>426454834
crunch compression doesnt help with vram, but otherwise compression matters

>>426454401
What the bottleneck is depends on the world and avatars: you need as much as you can get because there is always a new way people will find to make unoptimized garbage

>>426454834
How many 4k textures do you need exactly?

Vrchat uses bc7 compression out of the box or do you need to enable it separately?

>>426454834
>I thought compression didn't matter for vram
Crunch compression doesn't matter for vram, and is actually detrimental to frame times(note, hitching when you load avatars using it). The quality settings changes the format of the texture, and the format unity uses for normal compresses it to have the blocky look that normalfags think is just the texture being low res(thus needlessly bumping the res higher and higher).
Almost all of my avatars use 1k and the occasional 2k texture with no noticeable quality drop, not even on seams. People with quality issues from atlasing are either not adding a good enough margin or are using cat's awful auto atlasser

>>426454667
Problem isn't 80 person worlds, never been in one even close.
Around 40 persons I get sub 20 fps, maybe even sub 10.
Around 20 people I get maybe 40-60 depending on how many peope are on screen?
I usually go for sub-20 people instances to try and stay above 60 and even them sometimes it's not possible.
Could there be something wrong with my config? Are these numbers normal with my specs?

>>426454962
If you start making custom atlases for all your anime models, you lose compatibility with different versions and texture edits and other things because now you have a different UV. Not a huge issue if you are willing to start re atlasing every time you want to make a new version but it's not necessary.

>>426455225
>no noticeable drop
maybe for some types of models, but lowering the resolution makes it blurrier regardless of your compression format. It's very noticeable on your average booth model

>>426455057
usually at least 3

How is "Will optimize your avatar for $X" is not a thing?

>>426455398
not my problem you don't know how to make a save pre-bake

>>426455428
normies aren't going to pay money for shit like that they don't care about optimization

>>426455373
be more aggressive with your vrchat safety settings
block fat bimbos by default and use the distance hider aggressively

>>426455461
not my problem you have an old computer

>>426455398
>usually at least 3
Show the model.

>>426455398
>usually at least 3
your avatar takes 400x400 pixels on my screen at most, brother in christ you dont need 4k

>>426455560
see >>426446864

>>426455546
That's what I been told, but I like seeing all avatars so I keep my shield level at default. Guess I just can't have that with my current rig

>>426455619
Then why do i get good framerates with these types of avatars when you clearly don't?

>>426455398
>t blurrier regardless of your compression format. It's very noticeable on your average booth model
I'm a booth user and don't have this issue. Are you using any auto atlassing tools? Those tend to be detrimental to overall texture quality for very minimal perf gain

>>426455691
yea I can't even do that with my high end rig so good luck buddy

>>426455734
because you somehow think that anything sub 90hz is acceptable you absolute neanderthal

>>426455736
That's just how lower resolutions work anon, either blurrier from bilinear filtering or if you turn that off, then it will look pixelly instead.
>>426455843
I get 100+ unless the instance is very densely packed

>>426455939
define "denseley packed" and post specs
i'll easily know if you're making shit up

>>426455939
You're using an anime model. Lowering your resolution will not make it as blurry as you're pretending it to be. Can you post an example of a texture that's giving you issues?

>>426456029
Densely packed as in 30 or more i guess, or if the world is badly optimized. Specs are 5800x and 4080

>>426455939
>That's just how lower resolutions work anon, either blurrier from bilinear filtering or if you turn that off, then it will look pixelly instead.

>>426456134
>Densely packed as in 30 or more i guess
30 is a very small instance.

>>426456145
>>426456129
open any image in an image editor and scale it down, are you actually new to using computers?

>>426456286
30 as in 30 in a dense area

>>426456134
having used a 5800x+3090 for a good few years on win10 I can't say I had 100+ in most instances, but most of those were closer to 80 users than 30

Im a furry so my avatars are all 300MB+

>>426456360
kill on sight

>>426456145
anon, he NEEDS his 8k resolution puffy vulva pores to show up clear as day when ERPing in vrchat
please understand

>>426456134
lies, ik alone and drawcalls will eat you cpu frametimes to be more than 15ms

>>426456325
>open any image in an image editor and scale it down, are you actually new to using computers?
Anon, I sincerely hope you aren't playing dumb. Just because an image is set to a higher res doesn't mean it needs to be that resolution. Anime textures in particular are very low on detail, meaning they scale down extremely well without visible loss.

>>426456325
We are talking about compression here, you absolute retard.
BC7 (high quality in mongoloid speak) is virtually indistinguishable from raw RGBA.
One 4k texture in bc7 takes just 16MB of VRAM.
Even if you are an absolute troglodyte and just NEED your three 4k textures, it still would be less than 50MB.

>>426456512
>ik alone
wrong.
>drawcalls
more accurate

I block unoptimized avatars. Not because I have a bad computer, it's because being unoptimized is like being fat. You could fix it, you're just a slob that doesn't care.

what is this shit, covert military ops? lel

>>426456804
True and fair. I wish at the very least these retards would care to take five minutes to make one optimized avatar for their fallback so i can stop staring at a banana when talking to some inconsiderate retard

>>426456804
based
fuck unoptimized niggers and fuck obese people

>>426456520
>>426456645
anime tends to have line art because its literally drawings. Lines are the most noticeably affected by lowering resolution. No matter what kind of compression you use, less pixels is less pixels.

>>426457031
You can change compression without lowering the resolution.

>>426457031
these are completely indistinguishable in quality, especially if someone is looking at it through a headset

>>426456691
but there is a fix to that problem kinda.

picrelated, avatar museum 7, basically lots of drawcalls

>>426457031
and literally no one will notice this in VR

>>426457123
Obviously, that's not what I was responding to
>>426457169
Maybe if you have a low res headset

c-can we watch sovl eater...?

>>426457031
>anime tends to have line art
with massive islands of flat color between them. you aren't going to get a noticeable quality drop

>>426357010
hey!

movie starting soon.. in about 10 minutes!

tonight we're watching Showdown in Little Tokyo
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102915/

The deadliest vice-kingpin under the Rising Sun has just come to the City of Angels...where two angels of death are about to make him wish he'd stayed in Japan.

https://vrch.at/0ep4248s or join off Lumadurin !

>>426457304
NOOO HIS NIPPLE IS GOING TO BE BLURRY AAAAA

>>426457224
and this is public pug quite populated

drawcalls and ik

>>426457304
Flatter colors have a more obvious drop in quality actually, because the sharp border between different colors and the hard lines. Most booths have 3d-looking shading, so its not as bad, but they still have lines and intricate details

>>426457254
>Maybe if you have a low res headset
I'm on a varjo aero and currently looking at your posts on a 4k monitor. The quality is indistinguishable. You're probably on an index with a vaseline filter via godrays so i know your ass can't see the difference

>>426457232
>>426457169
No no no. Everyone will look at his clavicle pixel by pixel.
It's completely unacceptable. Avatar is ruined.

>>426457442
Sure you do anon. I notice a huge difference, I guess I must be imagining it. It has big impact on the face especially but I'm not posting my avatars face because I dont want you to shitpost me. Yes it is just generic booth face #500 but still

>>426457424
>Flatter colors have a more obvious drop in quality actually
This isn't even remotely true. Anyone who works in graphic design or art knows otherwise.
The amount of time you've spent coming up with excuses about things you don't know about at this point would have been better spent clicking three options in your textures

>>426457651
my eyes glaze over seeing everyone in booths so even if you set your face texture to 1x1 i wouldn't notice it anon

>>426457442
NTA, but I can notice the difference. Check your eyes.
We still don't know the exact parameters though, he might be strawmanning the argument there by using shit settings. BC7 should artifact like that.

>>426457671
you've never opened an image editor before I guess. Bilinear filtering is literally a blurring function. And if you turn it off, then you're literally just removing pixels, and making the lines look jaggy

>>426457651
Anon I'm already well aware of who you are, I just don't care to shitpost you. I'm genuinely trying to help you and you're just giving me excuses.

>>426457710
BC7 shouldn't*
>>426457671
>This isn't even remotely true
Huh? Subtle gradients is THE area to look for compression artifacts. What are you talking about?
>>426457842
>Bilinear filtering is literally a blurring function.
It's not. A pixel is not a little square. It's a dot.

>>426458104
>Huh? Subtle gradients is THE area to look for compression artifacts
compression artifacts maybe, but I meant that the borders between hard color changes is blurred in lower resolutions


Bilinear filtering is a fancy blur anti-aliasing technique to mask the pixel borders in textures

>>426458104
>gradients
right, but we're talking about flat colors. even with subtle gradients, you won't notice much of a quality drop unless you're purposely zooming in and looking for it. this is doubly true for vr.

>>426458372
with "normal" compression quality you absolutely will

>>426458340
>Bilinear filtering is a fancy blur anti-aliasing technique to mask the pixel borders in textures
Wrong. Nearest-neighbor is a magnification filter too, just like bilinear. I repeat, a pixel is not a little square, it's a point.

>>426458495
I specifically told you not to use normal compression though.

>>426458681
nearest neighbor will preserve hard lines and borders if they align to a cardinal direction on the UV, but otherwise will be pixelized, because without bilinear filtering, the blurring effect won't hide the pixels

>>426459073
You don't need to teach me, I know how it works exactly.
I'm just correcting factually incorrect thing that you say.

>>426459337
What was wrong? I'm arguing that scaling down the resolution will result in either pixelization, or in blurry borders depending on if you use bilinear filtering or not

>>426459505
>What was wrong?
I quoted things which were wrong.
And nobody forces you to go to 32x32. You are stawmanning the argument hard.

what's that thing called some people have when their hands gain shadow as they get closer to your viewpoint?

>>426459713
I'm not, I thought anon was saying there would be "indistinguishable" quality loss from going down to 2k from 4k for large atlases. Forgive me but I can't tell if you are the same person as before or not, I am not intentionally strawmanning you

>>426459839
ambient occlusion my good sire

>>426459915
>"indistinguishable" quality loss from going down to 2k from 4k for large atlases.
That's not correct, well depends on the content, but for tightly packed atlases it would be noticeble.
It should be virtually indistinguishable if you just go from raw RGBA to BC7 (aka high quality), without lowering the resolution, which will also reduce the vram usage to 1/4.

>>426460323
Fair enough. I may use some 4k atlases but i have them on normal compression, not raw. Will changing from normal to high be better for vram or worse?

>>426459839
proximity color

There is a very big difference between things you will notice on your avatar and things other people will notice on your avatar.

>>426461049
especially when I won't even notice their avatar in the first place

>>426460596
Is normal DXT5? I didn't use it personally, so I don't know, but bitrate is variable, so you need to check how it performs for your specific texture.

https://youtu.be/_KAq_-sC56s

A valve knuckle contender?

>>426460596
>Will changing from normal to high be better for vram or worse?
If you are using an alpha it would be the exact same vram usage.

>>426461149
Yes, normal dtx5. I'll try it out and see

>>426457031
>the pic
Those are compression artifacts, not from lowering resolution.

>>426461198
no

>>426461384
Full fingertracking, no stick drift and they won't shatter on impact?

Seems pretty good desu

>>426461198
>$481.00
bruh

>>426461049
unless i see poon when i bend down to look under your skirt, you are getting blocked for easting my time

>>426461308
no, that's the bluriness from lowering the resolution. here's the same comparison with uncompressed textures

>>426461198
Maybe, if it's actually possible to bind a normal amount of inputs onto them and they register as consistently as buttons.

>>426461198
Its not a contender when it costs $500. its not marketed towards the same category of consumers.

>>426461198
>no buttons
>costs more
NO

>>426462251
>>426461785
Oh you're Americans lol, they're 370£ in the first world.

>>426461982
Post the original raw texture.
And the "blurriness" is not the problem. Check the right (for us) clavicle on the first pic, you will see the artifacts.
Also show it on model. I doubt it would be noticable.

>>426462404
Since when they are using quids in the first world?

>>426462404
Wait so a 100£ more than index knuckles, but no shitty plastic and drifting joysticks?

>>426462404
you do realize that is almost exactly the same right? £ is gbp, not euros.

>>426462592
Ever since the dollar turned into monopoly money i suppose.

>>426462426
>Post the original raw texture.
No, that would identify me

It has artifacts too in the first pic, which just makes the top seem even better compared to the bottom in the second pic since it doesn't have them anymore. I've actually found that the artifacts from compression are worse at higher resolutions since the details are more fine and blemishes are more obvious

>>426462831
>No, that would identify me
So, you admit that you are cheating?

>>426463001
No, it would identify who I am

>>426463037
That doesn't make sense.

>>426462404
that's still 110 more than knuckles for a "contender"

>>426463183
Why? the texture reveals my color theme and other ""unique"" edits I made to it, I don't want to post it.

>>426463215
A contender you potentially don't have to RMA every 6 months, i calculate my time in money. And an hour of my time is 50£ from 08:00-16:00.

>>426463302
Crop out everything but upper body. You can edit out your Big Black Clocks tatoos too.

>>426463516
no. go get your own eyo texture

why is it so hard for people to just admit that they are wrong. you cannot power a server infrastructure with a single cat. i provided mathematical proof and they still cant just say "yes, you are right, you cant, haha silly me"

>>426463329
A contender which doesnt even have buttons or thumbsticks

>>426463302
grayscale it

>>426463639
What buttons do you need for vrchat? Mute and jump?

https://youtu.be/MAmWd15yXEc

>>426460804
>>426460314
i'm not finding it this way, do you know if it's on any of the settings on liltoon or another shader?

>>426463639
Not an issue if the inputs actually work.

holy fucking shit sometimes i feel like social interactions are like support tickets in an IT-Company

>accumulate over time
>constantly looming over you (unread messages, unanswered friend requests)
>loud notification sound whenever someone needs something
>mentally tiring to read
>costumers/friends get angry when you dont reply promptly

why is this so hard?

>>426463329
>A contender you potentially don't have to RMA every 6 months
What information are you basing this on? For all you know, these might have equal or more issues compared to the index knuckles, same areas or others. This is just wild speculation based on absolutely nothing.

>>426464501
Which button is gonna fall off, what joystick is gonna drift?

>>426461198
>specs don't mention battery life
mhm

How is outer wilds VR? Better than the base game or cumbersome and not worth it?

>>426464949
Trackpads are one of the most delicate controller inputs and always break on everything.

>>426465017
The specs mention battery life, which is 7 hours.

>>426465204
t. never used a steam controller
the etees don't look like they have a vive-wand-esque trackpad

>>426461198
>Trackpads only
wasn't this one of the main criticisms of the original vive wands
fuck that

>>426465319
the issue with vive wands is they fucking broke so easily and had awful drift because of cheap construction for the trackpads

>>426461198
>BLE connectivity
>still needs tracker for tracking tho so also a watchmen dongle is needed
>7 hours battery life

>>426465423
https://streamable.com/fbabc5

>>426465319
They only had one button which lead to retarded control schemes with multiple inputs on each trackpad. VRchat had both movement, and facial expressions on it depending on whether you pressed or swiped it.

>>426465097
I've only played it in VR, and I really liked it. Controls were mostly fine, and it was worth dealing with some occasional jank to explore everything in VR.

>>426465676
Okay? The controller connects to your pc over bluetooth AND the tracker attachment connects via watchman dongles. That's a 2.4ghz nightmare

>>426451386
are you guys still gaming

>>426465940
What sort of equipment do you use on 2.4ghz in 2023?

>>426465940
It's fine if they use different channels. F if you have other Bluetooth devices, though.

>>426466010
Vr controllers and vr trackers. adding more is bad and is the real source of the drift people blame their lighthouses on

>>426466181
sounds like a base station issue

>>426466010
It's BLE, meaning without perfect line of sight to the bluetooth connection/dongle, you're gonna drop input

>>426465835
I beat it once flat, but never did the DLC. Figured I may go through it again in VR and do the DLC after.

>>426466010
Almost every wireless device uses 2.4ghz even in 2023, due to regulatory issues

>>426466530
>due to regulatory issues

In what shithole?

>>426466485
I couldn't see myself replaying the game just because of how it works, but it still might be neat to go explore a little in VR before hopping into the DLC.

>>426466862
Earth

>>426466862
Sorry I was wrong, it's a licensing issue. I guess 5.0+ is proprietary and that's why everything still uses 2.4ghz

>>426466368
My headphones work fine through one wall, so it's not that bad.

>>426467186
a dropped input is more noticeable than a dropped bit in your song

how should I go about adding shark teeth to my model

>>426468048
just bring a couple of verts down in blender edit mode for 1 or 2 fangs, shark teeth always look bad in practice

>>426465396
Meh, can't confirm this in any way. Mine are now seven years old (25th of April 2016) and still running strong without any problem whatsoever, after slamming them into walls, furniture and stone windowsills (and, most of all of course, into the floor and the Vive (later Vive Pro) on my face). These things are tanks.

However, I would prefer finger tracking, so generally, I'm interested in these etee controllers, but ONLY a trackpad and finger controlling...? At least the wands have a physical trigger, two buttons and the grip buttons in addition to the trackpad.
I might get them anyway if reviews are good, depending on the price over here. Since the Index controllers have been permanently sold out in my region since like forever and are only available at horrible reseller prices, they might even come cheaper.

>>426468696
damn, i NEED them for this one model, even if it's just for a single expression controllable by shapekeys, a smile or a grin

>>426467778
If I've calculated correctly, the controllers can transmit all input data at least 5 times per frame at 144 FPS, unless they're using the worst BTLE standard there is.

>>426469731
>>426467778
Also, that's presuming they don't use any kind of bitpacking for the bools and transmit each as an entire byte.

rec room is way too underage for me...

>>426461198
I was kind of interested in it until I saw the absolutely fucking laughable price.

Oh snap my controller for pico 4 fell, still works but when it one day stops where should I buy new one? Or do people just buy "Meta Quest 2 Active Packs"

>>426471036
wtf did you expect
even the "adults" are 22yo zoomers

>>426442945
I feel your pain. the guy who uploaded tilegun plays mahjong with his own group. They're not 4chan friendly since they don't like racism or swears too much from what I heard second-hand though. If you're super lucky in NA mornings there's sometimes JP/KRs in pubs of Otakaze worlds.

>>426471754
Pico official stance is they don't sell individual controllers through retailers. So yeah, don't fuck up.

Running on the Nurburgring tourist track in Assetto Corsa tomorow night at 8PM EDT (26.5 hours from now).
Car list is pic related, tried to keep it simple since I won't have time to fix issues before we start.
Let me know if there's anything else you want to run, but try to stick to stuff that we know works online and get any requests in tonight.
Shouldn't need any mods for now since all of the content is official, but I'll link the Mega if something changes. Server is up in case you need to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg

>>426449639
You're embarrassing yourself anon...

>>426457379
thank you all for coming!!
see those who can make it next week for something a little more thinky
or not, who knows!

>>426463954
on poiyomi i know of

>>426463954
It's an option on the latest branch of Silent's shader, iirc.

>find L85
>notoriously unreliable gun irl
>attempt to charge a round
>game crashes

>>426478264
hahahaha

>>426478895
Oh it gets better. I don't even know where that SMG stuck to the backpack came from. It's like a SM64 cloning glitch.

>>426465396
they didnt

>>426480258
I've seen another video where someone pulls out a weapons and it just switch into a smg in its hand
Hilariously bad netcode

>>426480534
>aaaahhh my trackpads are broken
>noooo I meant to smile not run left
>turns entire head to look at things
>see ya guys time to charge my controllers again
t. every Vive owner in 2018.

>>426480680
You mean this one? If you look closely, it actually grabs the Galil off my chest and flings the SKS into orbit. It's not actually swapping the items.

>>426481078
pfff how does that even work

>>426481189
The grab hitbox on the Galil is way too large and they don't prioritise grabbing the nearest object to the hand properly.

>>426480880
yeah vive users were routinely made fun of back in 2018. superior CV1 touch control CHADS with their 2 weeks of double A battery life used to dab on wandildo users having to recharge constantly

You guys remember this piece of shit? Did anyone from /vrg/ ever buy this flop?

>>426482036
It was literally over for Vive in April when the hybrid tracker setup was found. They lost their one redeeming feature. The people who bought a Vive just for trackers mere weeks before that, oh man.

>>426482036
no they werent. dont listen to random people ont he internet.
i dont even post here but ppl here just say stupid fake shit like this.

>>426482414
if you dont post here how the fuck would you know?

>>426482346
you mean playspace bonding?
you guys are really behind holy shit. why do people waste their time with you people

>>426482593
April 2018, retard.

>>426482471
wow you dont know what lurking is?
must suck joining the site in 2020 newfag.
kys fucktard

It sure did get mighty stinky in here all of a sudden

>>426482414
They were, you just don't join meetups

>>426482830
Not likely. He had Rift. He used to retard post about how three sensors is unnecessary because he couldn't afford a third and coped by pretending the tracking was just as good with two.

>>426482758
Maybe you should have lurked more back in 2018 then retard, since Vive wand users were constantly made fun of.

>>426482298
one person used it for a while (the elite/steamvr tracked one)

>>426483349
>>426482702
you're falling for crinkler bait. playspace bonding isn't a thing

>>426484828
https://github.com/pushrax/OpenVR-SpaceCalibrator
bruh

>>426482298
the only good thing that came from it

>>426485241
That's what we're talking about. No one calls it "bonding"

Is there a way to lock the facial animation that's a result of a gesture but not lock my hands doing said gesture when using gesture toggle in VRChat, or is it just used for when you are too lazy or distracted to actually hold said gesture?

>>426488683
Yes. Learn how to use the unity animator.

>>426488683
Bind a hotkey to the gesture toggle in the controls menu. If you toggle it off while doing a gesture it stays locked.

>>426488683
just get face tracking like everyone else

>>426488683
>>426488917
This only works with index btw, on other controllers you will have to use animators to keep your FX layers locked while your gesture hands layer isn't.

>>426438956
Well the third outfit I wanted to add didn't work out, but the 2nd I have one came out really nice if I do say so myself.

>>426461198
I have some from their kickstarter 3 years ago. They are pretty mediocre. weighs about the same as the knuckles, not as comfortable because of the tiny weird finger strap. The finger tracking is better than the index, but not perfect, and since all the virtual button gestures depend on it, it works quite badly in practice. On the bright side the little steamvr tracker dongles work perfectly on their own, if you need weird shaped steamvr trackers.

Uh, if anybody wants to buy them from me though, reply to this post.

>>426490108
it's taken 3 years to go from kickstarter release to full release? wtf

why are all the eye textures on booth so overdesigned? anybody know of something sharp and simple?

>>426490451
just make your own

>>426490451
MMD eyes

>>426490575
Trying to
>>426490606
Will look there too, thanks

hey NIGGARS
I'm making a (new) art museum world. I already have the ART but I don't have the SCULPTURES. This would be fine but I had a big brain idea.
(You) have the opportunity to get creative and make a sculpture and have it featured! I don't care what you sculpt as long as it can fit in a 1x1 space (see pic). Only the X and Z length matter. You make it as tall as the fucking universe. DM if you're interested!

Yours truly,
The local retard

>>426439542
No thanks. Even the best gpus have limited VRAM and it fills up quick. Try not to waste people's resources for things that aren't even visible. Just put the two outfits on different avatars and call it a day.

>>426490838
DM who? Asking for the newfags

>>426490838
hey anyone know how to DM on 4chan?

>>426491420
>>426491528
Here's a hint

>>426491865
woah a booth
narrows it down a lot

>>426491960
I like sarcasm too it's funny

>>426488806
I understand how to implement it in a menu driven fashion, but that's not as smooth as being able to just form the gesture and tap a button on my controller then be able to do things like point with that hand.

>>426488917
>>426489008
Thanks. I'm on an Index and while some testing showed that tapping the gesture toggle wouldn't lock my hand if it wasn't performing a gesture, if I toggled it off while forming a gesture, that hand would get locked even if the other hand which wasn't gesturing would. Is this the behavior you're expecting, or is that a symptom of me having something wrong with my Unity controllers?

>>426492089
too bad you arent

>>426490838
>>426491865
As much as I like being a part of events, I don't want to be shit on for associating with an event you'd probably claim wholly as your own. You have a really bad reputation, I'd rather not be included in that. Maybe next time with a different person, cowboy

>>426490838
I don't get it. Are you asking /vrg/ for sculpture submissions or are you just using this as a place to announce stuff to your discord friends that know you're making a map?

>>426492487
He quite literally said to send him sculptures for an art gallery. How is this rocket surgery.

>>426492487
Are you fucking retarded or just incapable of reading?

>>426492929
Because he didn't provide any contact info. If it's limited to people who recognize you, remember your name and can then find you on discord it's not really a general /vrg/ thing so why bother posting it in the thread?

>>426494650
…you can’t post a link to a download in the thread? Or respond to a post? You’re just seething about discord existing at this point. Get a hobby.

>>426338651
does the last clockwinder make you listen to some female voice narrate stuff much if at all like the trailers show? i hate women and she sounds annoying

>>426343126
>I tried the VR wheel before but I couldn't get used to it
nobody would have ever suggested that be worth trying for a remotely realistic game like assetto corsa unless they are happy with not being able to drive worth dick

>>426494884
there is a bunch of cheesy narration in the Last Clockwinder, but some (most?) of it is skippable if you don't touch the tapes. It is a honestly fun VR game though, worth it at that price.

What the fuck happened bros. This shit was supposed to be the future.

>>426495532
people DONT want ads in their vr?
WHAAAA?

>>426495264
seems like a great game to play on at least a microdose of mushrooms or something. it reminds me of transpose but i got stuck on that and gave up for a bit probably because i was being too retarded and high

>>426494823
I would have if he asked for interest or submissions in the thread but he didn't. He asked for people who already know him to DM him before they've even made anything.

>>426495657
It's an engineering puzzle game, zacktronics lite. I dunno if it would be that good high. If you haven't played paper beast yet, that would be excellent though.

>>426465097
I've only played it in VR and it is a fantastic mod, feels native and not at all janky. Frame rate is slightly bad in some conditions but, uh, way better than the average vrchat instance.

If you've played the base game flat though, it's still the same thing, so hard to enjoy again unless you have amnesia.

>>426495532
VR is not big enough for more than one social platform VRC is going to suck all the air out of the room for the next 5 years at least.

>>426495532
VR at best is a supplement to existing entertainment systems and at worst a platform littered with candycrush-tier garbage.
All the successful VR stuff has been something that already exists on flat.
I don't see it really taking off until Elon Musk develops that brain-electronic interface and start projecting images directly onto our frontal cortex.
What we have really isn't "virtual reality", it's just a monitor stuck to our face.

>>426497665
What would a social VR platform need to do to take a decent amount of VRC player base while also bringing a large number of new VR users to it's platform? A new stand alone headset that out performs the Q2/Q3 with the new social VR platform pre-loaded ?(similar to how Faceberg/instagram/tiktok is pre loaded on phones)

>>426498741
>new users
Cheap, really fucking cheap
>take VRC players
Hard to do. Only thing I can think of would be an actually effective way of segregating the underage from the adults

>>426498451
i hate this take. VR is only shit tier because the whole of culture and technology in the west is stagnating especially on the consumer level because people are becoming poorer and stupider by the day

>>426496323
paper beast was is fucking amazing when tripping but puzzle games in general are improved with a small dose of psychs imo, it slightly impairs your memory but massively boosts your creativity and can let you think outside of the box and learn much faster. it makes you so fucking immersed in VR too, its insane, feels completely real to me at least on my good setup where im usually getting a native 144fps in games, no motion smoothing, super low latency
for transpose i was probably just tripping a little too hard and being kinda retarded from stress and fatigue but tripping or microdosing in VR games is some of the most fun ive had in my entire life

>>426498451
>I don't see it really taking off until Elon Musk develops that brain-electronic interface and start projecting images directly onto our frontal cortex.
Why would it magically "take off" then? We struggle to take advantage of basic ass headsets and you think when devs would be given an much more complex device something will change.
Absolutely delusional.

VR right now has a software issue. Hardware is not a problem.

>>426498451
This is a pipe dream, in terms of technology, safety, and general societal trust.
The technology won't get there during your lifetime and even if it did, you wouldn't want Elon Musk, Facebook, Microsoft, or anyone else in your brain.

>>426500962
>>426500543
also this

>>426399483
Starting the first Gurren Lagann movie, Childhood's End, in 10-15 minutes, you can join off Silencen or anyone in New Cinema 1336 if you're interested.

hello it's Tuesday pypy time:
https://vrch.at/mj5d9p5s
or join on Lycosella

>>426498741
Nothing. There is no feature around current technology you could put in that will make people move.

It's a social platform. People will stay where all the people are no matter the features. The only way for anyone to succeed is for VRC to kill itself.

>>426501857
what rellation does this have to the TV show? is it just a cut down version?

>>426501957
Damn gonna miss pypy

>>426491865
I've been around for a while and have legitimately no fucking idea who this is

>>426502419
Yeah, just a condensed version with a few minor changes. Fight at the end got expanded a bit supposedly though.

>>426504269
He's pretty old, but you have to run in "certain" circles these days to run into 'em, we call him "Dennis the Menace"

>>426502419
>>426504381
The shortened movies are pretty good in what they cut down and what they add.

The one thing that I remember being blatantly superior is the scene in the second one where Kittan tries to take on an alien with a shotgun in the show.

>>426500962
>you wouldn't want Elon Musk, Facebook, Microsoft, or anyone else in your brain
You already eat goyslop, ingest meds, and watch the garbage they put on TV.
Brain interface will just be an extension of that.
Heck, if someone just gives me a switch I can press to release dopamine, I'll never take my finger off of it.

>>426498741
perform significantly better than vrchat while still allowing the same level of user content creation and freedom

in other words, it's not going to happen, because the idea of letting people make their own stuff instead of purchasing from some kind of microtransaction store is anathema to corporations

>>426506081
>You already eat goyslop, ingest meds, and watch the garbage they put on TV.
Speak for yourself.
Your mind is the last place where you're truly free.

Where can I read about setting up eye tracking without cats?
I assume there's a standard eye bone orientation.

>>426507580
just leave the eye bones there and edit the rotations in unity with the vrc avatar descriptor bit

>>426492327
what did he MEME by this????

>>426492487
>>426494650
>>426495808
my nygga you can also post your submission in the thread as well
DMs is preferred since you might have customized shaders or something and you can guide my retarded ass to set it up if it's something that has steps to it
it ain't rocket science

>>426504269
it's ya man greg bruh
I'm not gonna just drop my discord for the various reasons that that's just a bad idea

if you are wondering
yes I probably should've just said my name in the main post to circumvent confusion
I am aware of this as of after making that post
I am the tarded and tired
be advised you have been advised

>>426507746
they don't start out pointed forward and when I try to find forward the eyes aren't moving together properly and unity for some infuriating reason randomly changes the other two rotation axis while I'm tweaking

>>426508118
oh just change the bones to be the opposite of what they are currently

>>426507580
Point the bones straight up, clear bone rolls.
If you're using a VRC purpose made avatar, the bones should already be pointing up.
It's really an issue if you're porting from MMD or something where the bones are pointing straight out.

>>426508230
opposite of what though
>>426508282
it's not setup for vrchat and I think blender scrunkled the bones
I pointed them straight up and cleared bone roll (which was at -180) but no joy

>>426444735
This one is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTTnWUkswkU

>>426509827
you either want em facing out to the pupils or straight up
whatever yours isn't set up like right now

>>426452470
>>426452095
A Lie can be truth if effort and repetition is done enough.
It's one of the greatest form of love to be able to pretend for your sake for so long

>>426464493
Have you overloaded your self with friends?
We can only maintain a set amount of friends before being unable to cope with the time requirements.

Maybe you should try allocating a time where you can be contacted so you can free some time up

>>426490838
Sounds fun I'll get something for you, what's the deadline?

oh how i wish some of u cute vrg boys werent prison gay and were straigth and werent deathly afraid of me because im a ciswoman

>>426510202
that didn't work either but I was finally able to adjust in unity
the lighting of my entire model changes when I activate the blink blendshape though....
time for bed

>>426511857
>the lighting of my entire model changes when I activate the blink blendshape though....
sounds like you need to tick a setting in your imported mesh to fix that
forget the name cause I havent touched unity in a while for any imports but its an import setting that the vrcsdk should auto prompt to fix by now?

>>426511182
NTA but there is only so much you can do to fight Dunbar and his silly little number. If you start trying to push too hard over whatever cognitive line, it gets exhausting real fucking fast. Feeling yourself slipping and not replying/having the energy to maintain the quality of communication you used to when before it felt natural is not fun.

>>426511939
oh yeah
blendshape normals set to calculate or whatever in the vrcsdk fixed it
but I have to go back to blender anyway to figure out how to combine or redo my eye blink blendshapes since theres only a slot for both at once an not separate like cats wants for some reason

>>426511792
I'm actually looking for a legit ciswoman wife to be. Having the common love for VR would be perfect imo
Wanna hangout some time then?

>>426511587
Was thinking mid-May if that's enough time

>>426512247
fun fact: they're gonna add a split blink eventually for the eye tracking they added so keep the separate ones as well

>>426512291
sure but dont do gay shit
whats your tag

>>426512348
actually I was hoping to set it up for eye tracking
so
how does that work then
without split blink
cause people already do it
I'm so confused

>>426512390
Moub

>>426512467
so vrc devs in their infinite wisdom threw it out with the merged blink only :)
they plan to add a split blink later but have to refacter shit to do it and handle it for future avatars
their forward thinking abilities are stupendous

>>426512390
You can contact me here throwawayDM#7407

>>426511792
tits or gtfo

>>426512247
Go in blender, crank up both blinks to 100, and there's a drop down to the right of the blendshape list.
Dropdown -> "new shape from mix" and name that however you want it.
Since you'll be in blender, be sure to set up the mouth vismemes as well for your avatar talking.

>>426480258
I love tabor lol

>>426513995
I was able to figure that one out thankfully
>Since you'll be in blender, be sure to set up the mouth vismemes as well for your avatar talking.
I'm lazy and have been using a mouth open blend shape for jaw flap...

nice pypying all
next regular NA pypy is Thurs 10 PM ET / 7 PM PT with an early session planned for 8 PM ET / 5 PM PT