/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1453

ITODDLERS BTFO

AR=/=VR

Say it with me folks
THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND NINENTY NINE DOLLARS

>>432594216
It's not an AR headset even though they're peddling it as one, just a VR headset with the passthrough almost always running

What's the fov? Normies are going to be disappointed when they find out they're looking through binoculars

Chess https://vrch.at/t95tch6c

>5,287.70 Australian Dollar

It's EyeSight Ricky, and it's a cool thing you know, it helps with conversations

>>432593969 (OP)
it appears my superiority has led to some controversy

Besides the dial that controls passthrough and the advanced hand tracking what does the apple headset really offer?

Reposting in new thread - I'm losing my mind over this Apple Vision Pro. After all these years of hype and rumour and delays and THIS is what they have to show as their big new device on par in importance with the original iPhone. A glorified Quest 2 with no controllers and no games. I am fucking stunned. I thought at MINIMUM it would be a cool luxury device with some funny quirky features that ultimately aren't particularly useful and not a device for me, but it can't even manage that. They showed NOTHING. What the fuck can this thing do that a Quest 2 can't? You can use it as a display for your Macbook? You can do videocalls where you are represented as a 3d avatar? Like holy shit. Normies aren't going to give a shit because they showed NOTHING cool or innovative or interesting. VR already has a stigma and everyone is familiar with the concept of portable VR, so spending half of your presentation showing someone sitting alone in a room looking at fucking 2d photographs isn't going to get anyone excited or invested in your product.

Have they lost the plot? The presentation before the reveal was also pretty garbage, spending like 5 minutes talking about showing photos when people call you and SCREENSAVERS. The only cool thing they showed at all was when they picked a 'live' photo and instantly turned it into a sticker, which magically removed the background from it.

The fucking headset doesn't even have haptics. Or ANY games that aren't flatgames. The Disney portion was just showing concepts that 'could' be done, like all the same shit we've seen before with second screens and companion apps.

The price was largely irrelevant to my reaction but having the balls to announce it at $3.5k, after showing so little, is crazy. Nothing interesting from a VR perspective, nothing interesting from an AR perspective. Nothing innovative, nothing cool. Nothing. At minimum, show us something cool with hand tracking. ANYTHING

>>432594619
they even went the same route of having bespoke form factors and easily detachable lenses

Thrill is salivating over and defending the headset on stream rn. I like the guy but man gets lost in the hype of shit just bc its new.

Apple can't even come up with a single original idea to save themselves from their mediocrity

>>432594905
>Nothing innovative, nothing cool. Nothing.
have you never watched an apple product launch?

The worst thing is they didn't even showcase their use cases properly. A screen? Ok I have screens already though. They should've shown you how to watch a movie together with someone remotely at least

>>432595221
Shillseeker is a fucking retard who wants to get a free vision pro from apple later.

>>432594905
I'm convinced this headset would flop at a third of it's pricepoint. Nothing for power users, too "out-there" for apple users.

>>432594216
""""""""AR""""""""

>>432595221
Thrill is just minbroken due to living in VR chat and the state of VR as a whole, to be expected desu

*clears throat*
XR

>>432595221
What could he possibly be salivating over? It's a worse quest pro for more money.

Even if it does take off, we have apple as corporate overloards instead of facebook. This is shitty for everyone involved no matter what.

>none of the VR hypemen are covering this
It's that bad huh

>>432594896
same thing apple always offers, polish. Most likely far better hand tracking than anything around, most likely most natural, fast, and accurate eye tracking for foveated rendering, especially combined with insane resolution display. At least, let's hope so - because if it costs $3500 and feels as much of a jank as any other headset, VR will suffer really bad reputation for a while, big companies pulling out, whatnot.

>>432595560
Is that... LITERALLY ANY VR NEWS OR SPECULATION? I'm gonna... I'm... gonna... I'M GONNA HYPPPPEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAHHHHHH I'M HYPEEEEENG!

>>432595417
>They should've shown you how to watch a movie together with someone remotely at least
they purposely avoided showing anything like this, or anything where you interact at all, to avoid comparisons to zuck's metaverse due to it's reputation as a laughing stock

>>432595757
So they've shown a lonely woman sitting there alone in the dark. Yeah that's desirable, for a rapist

>>432595757
we didn't see any VR games too, I think they're trying to distance the marketing from the Meta flop

>>432595757
Yeah, they totally avoided all existing terminology and called it a computer.

>>432595865
Yeah real smart, distance yourself from Quest 2/3 and associate with Quest Pro instead with all that business bullshit

>>432595757
Yeah instead you had a guy wearing the Applel vision during a birthday party

>>432595973
its a laptop replacement like >>432595243

>>432595865
and to replace a metaverse we have... floating ipad screens!

>we will revolutionize the skype call

>>432594905
>having the balls to announce it at $3.5k, after showing so little, is crazy. Nothing interesting from a VR perspective, nothing interesting from an AR perspective. Nothing innovative, nothing cool. Nothing.
This pretty much nails it. There was so much fucking nothing, announcing at $3.5k after showing how little you can do with it is laughable.
>>432595221
Shillseeker with another over-positive over-shilled opinion on a new product? No way.

inb4 apple cancels the vision pro

Damn Valve should've just released that Vader headset huh, apparently 5k wouldn't have been too much to ask

>>432597028
>vader headset
?

I just wanted to say that Yum and Lolcrab are the cutest girls on /vrg/.

I just want to see boomers wearing the apple headset in public, that's all the enjoyment I'll get out of the new headset.
But that aside!
Ladies(male) and gentlewomen.
We're also back again! Idols, Wishing and Stars? What's missing?
The dancing of course. /ourDJ/ is once again dropping some beats for you to idol step to.
With every rendition, not only does the DJ improve but also the club. I'm very proud of the visuals now.

Once again, there will be a passcode to this club. The passcode this time is 6182
Naturally, you will have to add Spheri to your merry band of friends so u don't get hit.

The theme around this time is the friends we've made along the way, dress in your Yukata,
idol outfit or just the usual dance outfit, we're all uniting together in this month.
I'm not planning on making it a groups+ instance for now, it'll be Friends+ once again.

This'll be happening the upcoming Friday night, 1 AM EST.
(Yes, this is technically Saturday, but it does not collide with the other VRC event that the dog does.)
Hope to see you there anons!
I'll post daily reminders orso as we get closer to the date.

apple saying shit like "like with the mouse and touch input, apple is the first to come up with gesture input!"
at this point they've drank their own coolaid.

>>432595670
Smooth user experience is the best we can hope for then?
This being an apple device is already a massive turn off, I don't want my hardware to be locked on a shitty restrictive ecosystem, looking at the sepct make me wish they would release a lobotomized version that I can use on my PC instead.

>>432597130
Valve had an aspirational prototype headset where they asked the engineers to come up with the best hardware possible, costs and complexity be damned. It was called Vader and they said if it could even somehow be mass produced, it'd still run up $5K. I think it was the test mule for their HDR and fingertracking stuff.

>>432597028
It's a long game tactic. Setting the Index between $1100 to $1200 shows the cap for most willing to pay for a hobbyist option. In so doing some might be hesitant based on price, but as we've seen with Quest Pro (and it's price drop because of it) any other set that's above $1100 makes people worry question if it's really worth it.

>>432598090
The amount of idiots I know that bought a strix 4090 for VR chat and League makes me question that

>>432597953
fuck I'd buy anything from valve, price doesn't matter

>>432598278
Nvidia gets the same cult treatment that Apple does

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xhc_k-ONbzA
It does look cool though

I cant belive apple invented fortnite

>>432594389
Mahjong https://vrch.at/akj28pah

>>432598415
Well that's probably not a commercially viable assumption given the failure of Artifact.

>>432600717
literally no one cared about Artifact

>>432600835
Exactly, which means Valve can't just slap their name on anything and expect it to sell.

>>432600913
if they did pricey bespoke HMDs enthusiasts would buy em

>>432599381
we like fortnite
we like fortnite

>>432592456 (Cross-thread)
I unironically hate going back to closed headsets after using the Quest Pro. Don't even use the side panels.

I think this headset, like most Apple products, may be too intelligent for your average consoomer

>>432602094

>>432602139
Fuck off, I'm serious. This is a v0.1 of something that will take over the world. It's not supposed to be "good" at this stage.

>>432602254
>This is a v0.1 of something that will take over the world
2013 was 10 years ago bucko

Apple is going to speed run the VR evolution.
Right now we are in the DK2 era with Xbox controllers.
In the next gen they are going to invent proper VR controllers.

>>432602515
Nah, they're making the sunglasses form factor AR headset that replaces smartphones within a decade.

>>432602515
My only hope from this is that this encourages more AR development so we get actually decent headsets for a normal price sooner

>>432594425
>Australian minimum wage: $23.23 per hour
>United States minimum wage: $7.25 per hour

>>432598278
At least VRChat can be demanding if you unlock shaders in a public instance full of unoptimized avatars, on a high resolution headset

>>432603927
>can be

>>432602515
>In the next gen they are going to invent proper VR controllers.
lmao
apple only knows how to take away, not add

>>432602515
>he hasn't seen the last apple attempt at a controller

>>432603995

Daily reminder that zucc pissed his pants and sabotaged quest pro from THIS.

i can accept people walking around with headsets on their head but if you do that applel eye projection shit at me you're getting punched right in the 3500$

>>432599381
>pay 3500$ to play fortnite
geels about as retarded as i do playing AoE2 on my 1500$ gaming setup

>>432605341
There is nothing retarded about playing AoE II on anything at anytime, anywhere because it's quite literally the best game ever made.

Damn lmao I didn't notice there was a new thread and wasted my post in the old one. What are all these apple memes lmaoooooooooooooooo

>>432606171
It's not even the best classic RTS, let alone the best game ever made.

>>432606171
Wake me when it lets me zoom right the way out like supreme commander.

hey!!
tuesday's movie is Watchmen
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0409459/

In 1985 where former superheroes exist, the murder of a colleague sends active vigilante Rorschach into his own sprawling investigation, uncovering something that could completely change the course of history as we know it.

hopefully my internet doesn't cut out this week

starting at 19:00 UTC as usual!

>>432594363
95 - 115 across the accommodated IPD range, like a Quest 2, but the optics are considerably better so it really doesn't feel as claustrophobic, but it's still not impressive, it's comparable to everything else "current generation".

>>432594896
>>432595560
Nobody who has had their hands on it has the full gag out of their mouths yet.

>>432598590 (Cross-thread)
>It's distinctly cleaner and clearer than the Pimax Crystal.
>Heavier than a Quest 2
>Runs HOT.
It's useless for gaming, but the displays and optics are worth drooling over.
Can't wait to get comparable displays and optics in a VR headset that isn't useless for gaming.

>>432609192
they're literally running the demos for it right now, so we'll probably see more articles tomorrow/this evening

lol impact grenades do no damage

>>432609782
Can already confirm it's way too fucking heavy for the pitiful headstrap, they will release an "improved" headstrap later, they have to because it's so fucking bad.
It's not as heavy as a Quest Pro, but it's much heavier than a Quest 2.
FOV is compromised as fuck.
It's too god damned hot and they're going to fix it with worse performance.

Shame on any reviewer that doesn't mention the weight or the heat.
Though many will never experience the heat because they'll just be playing around with Facetime and the new note-taking bullshit, remarking at the quality of the music videos they watch.

If they let anyone try Village or Death Stranding on the Vision Pro please speak up, they're handholding their way through shitty previews and telling you which direction to look, it's about as hands-on as a strip show.

>>432610835
Not to mention the "optional" top strap that will probably be required to comfortably support that weight (additional charges apply)

>>432609782
>eye tracking
literally who the fuck cares
vr keeps flopping around with shitty useless gimmicks nobody of worth gives a fuck about instead of focusing on actual content

>>432611203
>literally who the fuck cares
Me!
You would have cared too, if you weren't retarded.

>>432611203
foveated rendering

>>432611203
It's so frustrating because all we've ever needed since 2018 was just a few high quality, well-funded AAA games, but instead these Fortune 500 companies drop billions on shit like Facetime or pic related. I cannot comprehend what is going through their heads, it's like there's something about VR development that makes people retarded.

>>432611203
Eye tracking has actual utility, it's facial tracking that's the gimmick for social games.
Eye tracking has net returns on performance because it allows for proper foveated rendering, which definitely matters as we try to get higher and higher resolutions out of headsets.
Gonna be pretty necessary as we approach retina resolution and higher FOVs, the goal being to exceed 12,600x9,600 at a "full" 210x160 FOV.

>>432611768
Palmer Lucky and Brendan Iribe.
The two faggots who ruined the whole vr industry just by themselves.

>>432611840
>facial tracking that's the gimmick for social games.
t. has no idea what immersion is

>>432611768
I don't think modern game development practices are compatible with AAA VR games at all.

>>432611969
Because my facial expressions will somehow enhance my experience playing Fruit Ninja VR and Job Simulator?

>>432611203
Things that actually matter:
>performance
>battery life (if wireless)
>compatibility with existing software
>screen/lens clarity
>tracking
>comfort
Things that are nice innovations:
>hand tracking so you don't need controllers
>foveated rendering
>wireless without performance degradation and extremely low latency
Things no one gives a fuck about:
>mouth tracking
>smellovision
>showing your eyes to people outside the headset
>viewing tiktok videos
>eye tracking where that doesn't play into foveated rendering
>facebook integration

>>432612195
>a horror game tracking when you get relaxed to make you shit your pants

>>432612195
once we're at the point where everyone has eye/face tracking any game where you interact with other players will have an entirely extra layer of immersiveness just by virtue of everyone not being stagnant fisheyed statued

>>432612202
>eye tracking where that doesn't play into foveated rendering
Disregarding eye tracking as input show clearly that you are retarded and don't really understand vr.

>>432611175
don't get too excited
you'd play them in flat mode

>>432612202
They want the normalfag audience.

>>432612202
Missed the best feature we all need
>Headset that kills you when you die in VR

>>432612297
>Thing that's been done before without facial tracking
Never played Nevermind?

>>432612330
>Gimmick for Social Games

>>432612435
Oh I know, I just want to know how hot it gets.
It gets hot as FUCK doing anything of note, and I have to assume "gaming" would hit the limit.

>>432611768
These huge companies don't create, they just buy up anything interesting, slap their name on it and suck the life out of it.

I like the concept of it and would try it. Don't like the price.

>>432612330
That's fair. I don't give a shit about it right now, but I "expect it" of ALL headsets eventually.

>>432612873
Go try it, gawk at the visual quality, it's phenomenal.
Truly it's everything I ever wanted from the Nreal/Xreal Air, in a $3500 heavyweight with no battery life.
Also, that battery pack is TINY, I don't know the rating but getting "useful" battery life with a larger pack should be doable.
Power draw is a whole hell of a lot more than a Quest 2, easily over 30W, might be over 40W, not like they'll tell us.

I can see the appeal of consooming content in mixed reality. But the simple step of keeping the headset charged (or permanently tethered, I read that you can keep it plugged into a power out) combined with potential discomfort and heating issues, cancels out any otherwise appealing intuitive user experience

I just want Valve's headset

luv me uzi

btw, the dude at the conference said "STARTS AT $3499", which means 3.5k dollars only gets you the most basic model which probably has shit storage and everything
>iToddlers

>>432612731
The fact that the thread has on-topic news to discuss is a huge improvement and you know it

psycho,30??

>>432613648
you know it!

>>432613574
No way in hell the basic version does not have at least 256gb, I expect them to up sell to $4500 for a 2tb version tho

>>432613860
>>432613574
Consider: cloud storage.

>My new 11" iPad pro m2 gets hot after I use safari for a while, for not very demanding things like YouTube.
>My tablet, even through winter, heats up in a matter of 10 minutes while I draw on procreate. I just want to draw, and yet I'm forced into stopping and letting it cool down after 10 minutes.
>I just got an 11 inch iPad Pro M2 and I notice some heat after a few minutes of playing music with the speakers all the way up, is this normal?
>M2 ipad get hot when I'm simply just browsing or listening to podcasts
>taking notes on GoodNotes using my 12.9 pro, my iPad tends to overheat even when no other apps are open after around 20 minutes.
>with Procreate, gets very hot and eats through battery
>iPad Pro after watching 5-10mins of YouTube videos (not 4k and with no other apps open) the right side of my screen gets really hot.

The M2 powered iPad and Macbook Air are thermal-throttling spaceheaters through-and-through, now strap it to your face and have a nice day.
>The Vision Pro weighs almost exactly the same as the current 12.9" iPad Pro
It runs like an oven and throttles non-stop.

>>432614120
I've considered it, and you're fucking retarded
how does it run anything then? You think you can stream AR shit?

better than all the ignorant /g/ threads up right now, at least people actually understand headsets here

>>432612664
And they have literal hundreds of millions to just plop on the desk of some AAA dev and ask them for an AAA game.

>>432613860
Meant 1tb
>>432614120
For your 3D recordings sure, but for applications/games?

>>432614571
But it has an outside battery, that must cool it down considerably

>>432615219
heat mainly comes from the CPU, not the battery

I feel left out. What's going on?

You know, I wouldn't be so mad about $3500 if you weren't stuck with meme-tier Apple apps and productivityshit for that price point. 4K per eye displays are some premium shit, and SteamVR compatibility would make sure enthusiasts would get some good use out of them.

>>432616203
Apple announced their new Vision Pro HMD. It's $3500, and while its hardware is some interesting shit, the software offerings are lackluster compared to other headsets on the market at that price point.

Just woke up QRD??? How bad is it? Is it useless? Time stamp when they start talking about it?

>>432616203
>>432616481
apple announced a VR headset for next year (MR focused, marketed as AR to distance themselves from meta) and it's the same shit as all their other products, has no controllers, no gaems, won't be steamvr compatible, and 3500 dollars

>>432610835
Are you just being figurativve or did you actually try it? How's the resolution and passthrough at least? Surely they couldn't have screwed that up.

>>432616814
Previous thread had someone say that the display quality is fucking stunning, and that if you currently enjoy VR you shouldn't look through one because you'll hate how useless it is to do anything other function as a display replacement. Gets super fucking hot and heavy as well, and not in the sexy way.

z-zuckbros... is it... over?

The question is, what is the point announcing it 6 months before the release?

>>432618145
>vs vrchat avatar

>>432616460
>>432616597
Very suspicious. Sounds like some steins gate organization plan.

>>432618179
gives devs who weren't in on the NDA time to develop something for it.

>>432618145
>vs vrchat avatar

>>432616814
The display is fucking AMAZING and the pass-through is solid. Not "flawless" but it's god damned good.

Everything else is meh, it's too heavy and too hot and not comfortable enough. (Though it'll be more comfortable with the proper facial interface)

>>432619731
if you're an "insider", have you had a chance to try the bigscreen beyond as well? are they comparable?

>>432615219
It does not.
Batteries don't contribute much to heat except when charging or in high-drain applications.
It's not even a blip compared to the heat of the M2 + R1 combo pack of TDP they've got going in this 40+W headset.

>>432620083
YABBA
MY ICING

>>432619964
I am not, I'm a shit-tier insider who hasn't even gotten to see a Quest 3 in person yet, and my access to the Appel Vizion was more luck than anything else.
All the real reviewers had special facial interfaces made for them ahead of time.
I just got to shove my face into one for a couple of minutes and have nothing to report but heft, sweat, and incredible clarity.
I have had the pleasure of trying a Pimax Crystal, and the Apple headset is considerably better in terms of image quality and clarity, it's the best VR headset I've ever seen as far as display and optics go.
The FOV wasn't impressive but take that with a grain of salt, it might be heaps better with the right facial interface.

The man knows how to sell me a product that's for sure.

>>432620457
Supposedly the custom made facial interface AND prescription lenses are totally standard and included even in the base $3500 price.
I'd say "impressive" but at $3500 it really should suck my dick for me.

This is getting ridiculous
Also i accidently killed one of the eyetracking cams, will have to roll with single eye tracking for the time being.

>>432621224
damn bitch, you live like this?

>>432621224
Time for a cyclops avatar

>>432621339
Fuck me, that's not even funny it's such a good idea.

>>432621224
i dont know exactly how it works
but cant you just use the one working eye as input for both?
not like you ever move your eyes individually

>>432621727
or a pirate
that's more fun

>>432621813
Yeah, it works like that by default, just outputting one input for both eyes.
I won't be able to wink though....
As for the lip tracker i've meet with 2 reactions: People don't notice it initially or immedietly try to stuff things in my mouth.

Thanks for coming to my ted talk, im mad at myself for fucking up a camera that i will need to wait 2 weeks to arrive and im still getting shafted by customs on ir leds

>>432622132
shoving things in a polish mouth is a westerner's weyt dream

>>432619368
The champ won't be outsold.

is there any way to put back an animator animation into blender?

I was expecting shit like this, with 3d interfaces and virtual objects interacting with the real world. Stuff that is gimmicky but at least kinda cool and appealing. If you really want to stick with the 'view your photos' shit, then what if you could apply the photo as a texture to your cushions or something? Or tether something to your hand?

>>432619731
>>432616814
Interesting.
Somehow missed the post, thanks.

>>432619731
Can you read text through the passthrough?

Not even mad. I had the high ground, heard him shoot twice.
I am mad though that the belt ate my entire bag's worth of loot including graphics card the raid before though.

frens

Wish Upon A Star!
Live in the present, look forward to the future

WHEN - June 10th, 11:30pm EST, 8:30PM PST

WHAT - A formal Japanese themed festival event. Not based on any holiday in particular. Features custom festival stalls, games, shrine maidens (male), and more!

WHO - Everyone's invited! Yes anon, even (you).

"But K, I don't have a Japanese dress model, and I don't want to reuse the one I made last year, or the year before that! Wait, you just reused last years copypasta too!"

Shut up Anon, don't tell them and they won't notice. Including a download link for the yukata we used last year, more props to include with the yukata will come in a few days, and I'll type an updated post letting you know they're included.

"But K, how can I contribute?"
Luckily for you anon, there's a perfect way to contribute. We need festival stalls again! This drop box link is to the photoshop template, as well as a raw FBX so you can test it out yourself. Get it to me however you can, via responding here, or DM, I don't care just make it happen anons. I believe in you.

Festival stall - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AtQWhLjs9ywMUqkIiFDoXFjkFrgl5guF/view?usp=sharing

Yukata -
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UgIjDN8hMPOo9Xz8FVZUpmYtBpocHhup/view?usp=share_link

Can't wait to see you guys there this year. Looking forward to all the submissions.

ADDITIONAL PROPS COMING EITHER TONIGHT OR TOMORROW. Sorry for the delay. Had some hang ups with them.

>>432593969 (OP)
if I wanted to watch videos and shit, I would just use these with my phone.
Literally no point to buy an overprice bulk that cant even do games or PCVR.

>>432626568
Oh yes, comfortably.

Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?

>>432632081
>what went wrong?
Palmer Lucky and Brender Iribe selling the company to lizards in 2014.
The original sin.

>>432632081
Nothing at all.
Headset is exactly what was expected, an overpriced productivity-oriented headset with fundamental flaws that's totally useless for gaming.
It's heavy as fuck, hot as fuck, and doesn't have enough battery life to watch an average feature film.
The screens are great, optics are great, the rest is meh, and none of it matters for /vrg/ because the one thing it absolutely cannot do is play VR games.
It's an iPad Pro strapped to your face with the TDP cranked up even higher than the overheatomatic Macbook Air so it will never stop thermal throttling.

They did exactly what was expected of them.

Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 reminder post. We're running NR4/R4 in New England until next Monday. Club link is in the OP if you need it.

Time for monday pypy! Come and dance.

the link:
https://vrch.at/39q2nyd4
or join on yuru

>>432633648
my boney wife...

>>432633648
You are unironically starting to look worse than that clone from the other day.
Get a grip.

>>432633782
I use exercise clothes at pypy but nowhere else.
The skeleton leotard is a little bit weird but I sawmit and liked it.

>>432633759
hello hello

thank god i didn't pay 40 dollars for this

>>432635609
>I use exercise clothes at pypy but nowhere else.
And what fitness benefit does that large leather choker have?

>>432636226
It's an accessory. I wanted a punkier look with the new twintails.

Since there's a lot of vrchat people here, is ProBuilder still being used or has something else taken its place? It seems they removed the 2019 compatible version from the asset store.

I know there is blender but exporting and replacing stuff for every test is a pain.

>>432638270
It's an official part of unity now, you install it from the package manager. I still use it, It's gotten better in the newer unity versions

>>432638452
Ok, thanks. I did see it became part of Unity when looking it up, but I thought that was only for the latest version.

>>432633648
They're all so cute bros...

>>432639126
I want to breed L

we need to choose a new non-airing show to pick up for NA Anime! pleas help, feel free to add suggestions

https://poal.me/7zzrc

Monday's Workout is starting!
Let's kick the week off on a healthy note and get your body humming. Join on flagsteeler, or use the link below

https://vrch.at/5qjjg9xk

>>432639126

>>432636516
Who did mommy get collared by...

>>432639126
F is so hot

>>432643272

IT'S UP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEUFvgDjWb4

>>432644413
>le epic british guy reviews

It's too late, I've already drawn myself as the fit pypy going chad, your argument is invalid.

>>432644828
this but unironically

>>432645072
Maximum power.

I was feeling very lazy and didn't want to manually organize booth outfits with blender. This is the power of Modular Avatars™ https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev

>>432645805
>every avatar on one avatar
maybe a third nuke will fix it?

thanks for coming to pypy! see you again tomorrow [and thursday] at 10est

>>432643672
There's unironically no one that could do that.

>>432646098
im going to choler u *injects you with cholera*

did apple stock crash yet?
maybe gaben will buy it for the display and handtracking tech

>>432647123
everyone will put a big ass sillicon cover over it with holes for the cameras

As expected, Apple has made sure everyone to get their first hands-on is inexperienced in the industry.
None of the people who have had "first looks" have any fucking experience with VR/AR/XR shit.
They're making sure all the first-looks are totally blown away by shit they know nothing about.

>>432647286
apple just invented vr AND ar
people are rightfully blown away

next theyll release an app where people chat in virtual enviroments, you will see this on the front page of every newspaper and the news will talk about it for months

How can I see through the headset if it's mixed reality and not an actual transparent AR headset???

>>432647821
Cameras.

Instead of an anime movie, showing the first four episodes of 08th MS Team tonight at 10PM EDT (~21.5 hours from this post). I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

>>432647872
So it's producing extra heat just to have a second screen that displays your eyes lol what a meme

>>432648809
Extra heat, weight, space, and processing power.

>>432647821
honestly im surprised they didnt make it an actual AR visor with a combiner between the outside image and the virtual stuff. passthrough AR seems like a good idea if the headset is mainly a VR one
>>432648809
its gay af to appeal nor normies
i actually like walking around with a headset on with passthough when no one can see my eyes i feel all cyberpunk and cool its like im in snow crash

>>432622132
Can I shove things in your mouth tracked mouth in the near future?

>>432623573
Yes. Use the FBX exporter in unity. Windows>Package manager or soem shit. It helps track all the modules you have there is FBX exporter there that you can install.

Mess with the settings there is a way to export the fbx from the scene with baking whatever animation is linked in that animator.

>>432599381
>now you can play flat games

People really are brain dead. You have atechnology that can build a 6DOF world around you and they use it for fortnite and to watch tiktok videos.

>>432651131
That's the idea, yeah.

>>432651131
The entire industry will baby-duck flatscreens for the next half-decade minimum

>>432626808
Be VERY careful with the conveyor nowadays. It will eat items, you have to sell one item at a time: It's quickest if you do it in batches of the same item. EG a stack of those cardboard smoke grenades, you can put them in one at a time and see the number go up.

https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Ghosts_of_tabor#Known_Jank

I try to update this

>prepare to hop in VR
>plug my trackers in to check out how charged they are, I haven't used them in a bit
>no light
>windows notification pops up
Power Surge in USB Port
Device is demanding more power than can be supplied
>wtf
>must be the cable
>switch cables
>try a usb port not on a hub
>no light
>huh, weird
>remove the cord
>the end is hot as balls
>the input is really fucking hot, too

>can power on just fine
what the FUCK did I do the last time I was in VR with my trackers and has this happened to anyone before?

>>432651567
Sounds like a short circuit

>>432651323
I think it was throwing the cap of a used drink bottle into it that nuked it. I rarely if ever have trouble with the belt.

>>432651316
I think it's more that people don't want to do anything but watch TV, flick through their phone, and play fortnite. Like if they wanted a 3d experience they'd go outside. It's just this generation's TV addicts.

>>432651825
FUCK
checking the site, HTC has an extended list of replacement parts for controllers and headsets, but not their trackers? damn it

>>432651567
>>432655109
>he fell for the chinkshit meme

>>432655610
>niggerspacing
>faggotlining
>wojackposter
Didn't read. Kill yourself.

>>432655610
>doesnt allow people to discuss topics that are actually interesting and thought provoking and productive.

Define interesting and thought provoking

>>432656383
Racist and impotent.

>>432636226
>And what fitness benefit does that large leather choker have?
it's for when i fitness dick down her throat lmao

>>432656797
Man fuck all that, most of us know things are fucked and likely irreparably fucked. no need to dwell on that and discuss it to death.

>>432657260
I prefer to put on my VR headset and play VR games in my cyberpunk dystopia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFvXuyITwBI
>uploaded 11 mins ago
Whatchya think I kinda trust this guy a bit for reviews since they're normie tier look for a VR device aimed at them instead of shillseeker

>>432657654
scrolling through the comments is a fever dream
why are normalfags like this?

>>432636112
I really liked deez nuts

>>432657260
im not saying to dwell on it. im not even arguing against vrchat censorship of all places, thats fucking retarded. im just realizing another reason why its particularly degenerate. and it wont stop being degenerate until people at least have the perception that they wont be banned for being critical of it. no one will ever want to replace real life socialization with kosher virtual reality spaces unless they want to push degeneracy beyond what they feel comfortable with in real life, because its just yet another safe space for that shit with the added bonus it being more immersive and your real identity is being hidden

which is why most vrc players are halfway in the waifu to troon pipeline

4chan moderators are the most subhuman faggots who ever existed

>>432659469
FULLY
MODELED
ALMONDS

>>432659469
to bad the sequel is Quest only so it looks like shit

>>432656797
Or we could talk about actually interesting thought provoking things that are related to virtual reality like how VR is a stop-gap to brain computer interfaces and how us VR enthusiasts are really transhumanist early-adopters

GORILLA TAG?

>>432660138
>VR is a stop-gap to brain computer interfaces
Except talking about this is fucking autistic when obviously if anything we are headed backwards technology in the near future. Science and technology in the west has almost totally stagnated, it's all done for profit and even that barely accomplishes anything because of the sheer brain drain from affirmative action and the demoralization of the smartest people.
My grandfather was an astrophysicist who helped build the Saturn V, I'm a fucking nobody, like everyone else all i care about is bitches, money, myself and my hobbies. know why? because fuck this anti white nigger tranny worshipping country
And fuck jannies

>>432660864
dude take your schizo shit elsewhere
seek mental help not joking

>>432660959
>You're mentally ill if you see things thr way an average person from 80 years ago would see them if they had a time machine to the modern world
You are obviously either a faggot, kike, shitskin or just a complete disgrace to your ancestors

>>432659807
I will now buy your game.

>>432660864
Please stop this reddit shit.

>>432662117
>shit that can even get you banned from modern 4chan is "redditshit"
Tranny

does anyone wanna hangout?

>>432662325
go to sleep

>>432662325
in gorilla tag?

>>432662364
its 10 am, i already slept

>>432662447
no, in vrchat

>>432662476
>its 10 am, i already slept
go back to sleep

>>432662476
>hangout in vrchat
and do what?
drink heavily, look at a mirror and contemplate suicide?
no thanks

>>432662706
talk about tfwnogf

>>432662325
>>432662476
whomst

>>432662325
I would hangout in walkabout minigolf
Talk shit, shoot balls with the bros
The usual

>>432662724
i know misery loves company, but i'm married

>>432662325
im up for it,
post instance

>>432662818
i already left, kek
too late boyo
i dont like hanging out with /vg/ fags anyways
r9k chads where we at!

>>432662862
bro you give up after 8 minutes?

>>432662987
ye

>>432663146
damn i really wanted to get on as well...

>>432660090
I hate the quest so much it's unreal.

>>432658438

I just want an affordable modern vr headset that doesnt want to rape me for data collection. Is that too much to ask?

>>432671071
Yes it is too much to ask and it will always be. Raping you for data collection is worth money so companies releasing those headsets can subsidize the hardware. This will always be the case.

>>432671071
It'll never be good enough for people like you.
"Wat da fak? I need a facebook account?,
Wat da fak? I need to create a company account?,
Wat da fak? I need to use cookies and javascript??!"

>mfw he cheated on me

Decided to give up to temptation and use eyetrack. Surprised how fast it is, if I'll get to improve general accuracy, it might be a viable way to start fiddling with foveated rendering, say in bullshit ass project wingman that runs like trash even on high-end gpus. I even remember using static form of foveated rendering for PW, and it had center position of circle in shader mod config, so if it can be made dynamic, it's more than possible

I'm still a bit scared about IR levels. but hey, if no one reported eye loss yet, it's all good, isn't it

>>432674370
Nice. I tried eye tracking a bit on my end but not on VRchat yet. Apparently the remote viewer experience of eye tracking sucks and is not instant.

VRchat needs to change how it works and bundle it with how limbs move cause right now it's dog shit and choppy.

>>432674370
Now ill know if you're looking at my tits
Did you end up deciding to get a Quest pro or did you build the tracking?

>>432677134
Latter. EyeTrackVR, it's a DIY thing:
https://github.com/RedHawk989/EyeTrackVR

>>432674370
Crimson 1 wrote this post

>>432679368
It's the only place they can be white

>>432677198
Seems way too much of a hackjob.
I mean check the github of the creator. His bio says he's a fucking high schooler wtf.
Furries are fucking retarded.

>>432682163
I'm rather egalitarian, so the way I see it, there's a chance furry teenager will nail something just as well as professional boomer dev. But yeah, I'm also rather cautious, so you won't see me using this eyetrack in VRC too much. Will screw around a bit, then drop it, I'm sure not using it for 8h through VRC nights. I did some extremely basic and possibly flawed experimentation, it seems like amount of IR light in headset is as high as sitting outside in shade during sunny day. But, during sunny day your eye pupil is tiny, unlike when you're sitting in a dark room in VR. Been thinking about strobing IR light, hopefully synced with camera if possible, that would minimize overall amount of light ever so slightly - didn't got to do anything in this direction yet though[/spoiler]

>>432674528
>the remote viewer experience of eye tracking sucks and is not instant
>VRchat needs to change how it works
They did this like two updates ago. Eyetracking is now ik-synced like your limbs. People using osc already found ways to force interpolation remotely though like a year ago.

>>432682892
Oh fuck yes finally! This is the news I wanted to hear I must have missed this. Yes I will now be an eye tracking chad SOON(tm)

webm related is my bland Horizons world avatar testing of eye tracking and hopefully soon in OSC vrc as well. Thanks for informing me this anon.

>>432666062
>$999 monitor stand
Is this their most ridiculously overpriced product yet? I have a vague recollection of something even worse, years ago.

>>432686956

>>432614913
i saw some people unironically comparing them to nreal airs
i own them and i regret buying them.

also lets be honest if it wasnt overpriced af and software limited everyone ITT would want the vision pro

>>432621224
what the fuck is this shit why do you need a usb hub and loose wires and all that shit?

>>432633167
makes no sense
how did it take them so long to find out he bought a 3500$ headset if he was shooting 3d video of them for a long ass time

also i think the 3d video thing will be big. i was talking a few days ago on /vg/ on how porn should start adding depth channels to the video

>>432621224
Put an eye patch on your avatar.

>>432687836
>hat the fuck is this shit why do you need a usb hub
nta but it's so they can continue to use the quest 2 wirelessly even with the facetracker and eyetracking. As for loose wires, I've seen worse eyetrackvr setups

>>432689801
Its so that i can use both vive facial tracker and power ETVR while also having powerbang plugged on.

>>432690534
>But how does that work
Since quest 2 works on android you can easily host an USB server on it using VirtualHere there's an old apk that doesnt require to pay for single device connection.
You also need to give the app permissions to camera using ADB.

Its still quite janky and i need to figure it out so i dont get random disconnects and dont have to restart OSC server several times for it to click.

what does this even do

>>432691385
bans you if you click it lol

>>432691385
Automatically bans you. Unironically.

>>432689801
ESP32s?
are those the cam boards? ribbon for cameras?

isnt that headset wired? why put a battery and esp32s for the eye tracking? you can probably put a raspberry or other SBC with 2 camera connectors and connect+power it via a cable that goes along your regular cable for the headset

>>432691450
>>432691481
Does not ban you
>>432691385
Doesn't matter at all unless your avatar is set to public

>>432691589
>Does not ban you
Nice try, Tupper.

>>432691757
All of my old models are marked with nudity, and none of them ever got me banned or warned or anything, even when I briefly made them public a few times.

>>432691947
then why bother marking them with nudity if it doesn't do anything?

>>432692054
I stopped doing it because I can't be bothered

>>432691385
Nothing but don't tick them since all NSFW content is against their ToS

>>432691385
Nothing, the other guys are retarded. It's legacy stuff from 6 years ago they've been too lazy to remove

>>432691513
no clue, i just pulled that from the eyetracking discord. My headset came with all that built in
>>432690534
soul image

>>432593969 (OP)
>the comments on review videos
>revolutionary
>ground-breaking
The absolute fucking state

why did vr doom fuck with the guns

i feel like the game could be adapted to vr better

>>432690534
VR enthusiasts look at this and see no issues.

>>432693460
npcs gonna npc

>>432693493
The mod does it better than the actual release I think

>>432693602
they made an actual release?
i realized they made standalone doom 4 mins ago
i did play standalone quake a couple of months ago tho

>>432689670
do normies actually watch garbage like this

>>432691450
>>432691481
this was a lie made up by snakior to try to get you guys to band against vrc staff and it's hilarious that it's still spread as truth

>>432693460
The amount of "OH MY GOD IT'S LITERALLY BLACK MIRROR IN REAL LIFE" comments is eyerolling.

>>432693937
Why is it still spread as truth anyways? Just try it out for yourself.

t. all my uploads have the 4 boxes ticked.

>>432694148
>Why is it still spread
because the majority of people here lack common sense and will raise pitchforks over very easily self-verifiable information

Looks like Amazon is already bot spamming every Apple headset video

>>432695112
Amazon have a VR headset in the works?

>>432695965
Nope, no idea what it is. Some crypto scam shit probably, googling it doesnt even come up with anything.

Now that the dust has settled and the string of major headset announcements and updates are out of the way, we can all agree on who won right?

>>432697194
for me 100%, idc about eye or face tracking, so the Beyond won for me.

Will the Duck Goggles have SteamVR support?

>>432697194
For me it is still the Valve Index.

>>432697194
Valve won. Index 2 when? Beyond has bad FOV, and doesn't include controllers or base stations with that big price.

>>432696053
Yeah googling around a bit it just looks like a crypto scam. It just makes me wonder why spam it under the Apple Vision video pretending that it is just another headset.

I want to fuck tupper

>>432698015
>1k is a lot to him
you have to be over the age of 18 to post here

>>432697194
>Now that the dust has settled and the string of major headset announcements and updates are out of the way
Wait... by God, is that a Valve announcement coming in 2 weeks? IS THAT GABEN WITH A STEEL CHAIR!?

Reminder: valve hasn't even made a prototype of the deckard yet that isn't more than an index and a steamdeck motherboard glued together

>>432698015
>Beyond has bad FOV
Has the same stereo overlap as Index. 102 degrees FoV is not even close to bad.

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Seach and Destroy!
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Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

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>>432697438
Frog goggles look lighter and more comfortable

im not getting one but im ngl it's the coolest looking headset by far

i wish they made a version with tracking. it wouldnt be as small but there's a reason why people arent rushing to buy third party tracking setups

>>432700031
lightest headset vs heaviest headset right here

>>432698767
It's not. The index is just that much with everything included. Enjoy your apple VR, pretend richfag.

>>432698962
>stereo overlap

Elaborate. If it's good I might change my mind and buy it. Maybe. It has only 90hz though so maybe not. I want 120.

>>432700297
the first one is so lumpy and gross!
you can't see your eyes on the outside and you need a $1000 computer to use it so it's basically worthless

>>432700297
heavier than pimax?

seriously tho, all the polymers we have in 2023 and they go with aluminum+glass? for a device whose weight sits on your fucking face

>>432700658
I wouldn't be friends with any of these subhumans what the fuck. Brian especially can fuck off.

>>432700658
>tfw beyond plus a pc to run it is cheaper than Apple Vision Pro
lol
lmao

>>432700759
if it doesn't look like an iphone susan won't buy it

>>432700451
the Beyond makes sense for people who have owned an Index for 4 years already
t. has owned an Index for 4 years already

>>432701917
Sure, but I'm a G2bab. I don't think it's worth it for me. Someone in here also said that with the Index 2 Valve might be wanting to move away from base station tracking technology, so if I get some now I'll probably be fucking myself over.

>>432702048
if valve moves away from base stations I won't use it anymore
completely swapping ecosystems seems like a terrible idea

>>432701747
Cons: No eyetracking, worse displays, not wireless.
Pros: Better comfort, controllers, more processing power.

Trade-offs, trade-offs.

>>432703072
3.5x the cost

>>432703072
also it ACTUALLY does VR
if you need wireless just wait for Nofio
eyetracking makes the most sense on wide FOV hmds like pimax sadly

>>432703072
eye tracking is retarded, just get a stronger gpu

any space spend on dumb shit looking at your eyes is a space not spent on screen/lens

israeli chads are gonna give us full FOV vr

>>432703164
It's not.
$1000 headsets, $300 basestation+knuckles, $1500 4090, $1000 CPU+RAM+MB etc.
It's around the same price.

>>432703267
>just wait
No need for that. There are no good games to justify buying anything better than Q2 anyway.

>>432703505
>eye tracking is retarded
You are retarded. Stop single-mindedly focusing on foveated rendering.
Good eye-tracking is an input method on the level of 6 dof headset/controllers, in some cases even better.

>>432703939
you're forgetting that Apple Reality Pro literally DOES NOT DO VR
IT IS SOLD AS A PURE AR DEVICE

>>432703939
i wonder who's behind this post

>>432703939
yea bro im gonna use eye blinks to shoot my gun

but you're right, one of the things from the applel headset that will definetly take off is the interface. your eyes being the 'mouse' and your touching your fingers to click is definitely gonna be one of the main interfaces of the future

>>432704197
>your eyes being the 'mouse' and your touching your fingers to click is definitely gonna be one of the main interfaces of the future
You wouldn't even need to click. You would just need to think about clicking, good eyetracking can figure out your intention just by looking at your physiological responses.
And while, it's fine for "scrolling iphone/browsing net" type of things, nobody says that you can't use eye-tracking together with traditional controllers, which is what I had in mind in the first place.

>>432700451
Not pretending to be rich, because 1k headset isn't rich people shit. Your view of money is skewed

>>432704519
im still hoping they'll release this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmxLiXAo9ko
for the Q3/pro as an alternative controller eventually.
maybe we'll have to wait for the quest 4

>>432704746
hand tracking alone will never be enough

>>432703719
>Buys out your company and limits your technology to only their hardware
lol
lmao

what does the apple headset do that would make people want a hot mini computer strapped to their heads as opposed to just using their phone or laptop or a beefy desktop?

>>432703939
>4090
nigger thats literally the most powerful GPU you can fit into a desktop. this shit isnt going to have 1/10th that much power. what a dishonest comparison

>>432704943
yea measuring voltage on muscles is probably better than optical tracking

in the far future they may be a neckband that does this by reading your nerve root

>>432705297
>what a dishonest comparison
What's dishonest?
I've listed "more processing power" in pros.
And to have a good experience on resolutions of beyond, you would need something on the level 4090, maybe even something better.

>>432699275
It is Pavlov day!

ITODDLERS BTFO

>>432705936
>owning not just one apple device but two
>they basically have the same fucking chip inside
literally
what
is
the
point

i wish we had more proprietary cable connector types

>>432706184
If you think chinks are not already manufacturing usb-c adapters for it, you don't know anything.
It's just power, it wouldn't be too complicated.

I had a new iPhone 12 mini that got bricked due to a software error within a year. Reinstalling the entire OS didn't fix it. Apple store faggots tried everything, told me I was shit out of luck and they genuinely didn't know how such a thing was even possible, and that i could pay $500 to replace its internal parts or turn it in for $50

Fuck apple. It just slowly lost functionality on me until it refused to go past the setup process at all after I tried restoring it one day. Shit literally bricked itself for no reason while sitting in my pocket

I'm not taking my MEDS!!! I AM NOOOOOT
*smears shit all over my face*

i wish they didnt rush the quest3 announcement before the applel one so they could work on it a bit more and copy the applel control scheme with eye trackers

>apple headset is 90 fov
its over

>>432706598
>software error within a year
Warranty, hello?
But I agree overall, I hate it so much that you can't even start using Q2 without a mobile phone, it's so fucking gay.

>>432706806
So you mean the quest pro, because that's all the quest 3 is minus eye tracking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmpQXPrYyuI
Ten minutes, fellow faggots.

the apple vision pro is the ultimate gooning device

>>432704535
You're definitely pretending to be rich. Only rich pretends would buy apple products.

>>432707245
Please avoid calling me the f bomb in the future, Bradlington.

>>432705936
High effort edit friend. Made me kek out loud

>>432707467
Your reading comprehension is terrible. Since when is the apple headset 1000 dollars? Fuck off esl

>>432674370
DFR isn't as simple as fixed foveated rendering, contrary to what many people think. I've talked with a few devs concerning it. The problem is the dynamic nature and the difficulty for DFR is you need to detect which eye the game is rendering to at render time (very hard), not at submission time (easy). But FFR can do this without any need to distinguish between the eyes due to the static nature.

So just because something supports FFR that doesn't mean it'll automatically work with DFR.

>>432707113
i meant one headset with both depth and eye tracking

>>432707245
already predicting he'll be overwhelmingly positive about it like every shilltuber

>>432708231
>The problem is the dynamic nature and the difficulty for DFR is you need to detect which eye the game is rendering to at render time (very hard), not at submission time (easy).
The only difference is latency.
Pull the input till the last possible moment, render.
Foveated rendering shouldn't affect the game logic, so you can pull right until the start of GPU frame.
If the eye-tracking API doesn't provide predictions itself, you write your own, wouldn't be very hard, you need to predict around ~15ms total.

SORRY GEM SERVER GAMERS EPXERIENCING TECHINCAL DIFFICULTIES

What was it they kept calling the Apple headset yesterday? Something like 'optical computer' to avoid using the term AR headset.

>>432708794
lol

>>432709213
"Spatial Computer"

>>432708996
HI GE SERER GAMRS WE ARE BACK

>>432708984
You would think it's that easy, but it's apparently not from the multiple people I've talked with, including the guy who's behind the OpenXR toolkit. Guessing which eye is being rendering during rendering is extremely difficult. How easy it's going to be also depends on the exact rendering pipeline for the game, be it something like single or multi-pass, then stereo, sequential, or mixed.

At least if we're talking injection methods, such as like the VRPerfkit does with fixed foveated rendering.

Slowly but surely they're confirming things about the Apple Vision Pro that were already blasted here yesterday.
The FOV comparable to the Quest 2 (worse, according to some), the enormous size, the enormous weight.
>>432598590 (Cross-thread)
>Heavier than a Quest 2
>2 hour battery life
>It's so much heavier than it should be.
>Runs HOT. It made me pour sweat harder than any other headset I've used, it was fucking gross. Every inch of the headset gets very warm to the touch, as does the power cable which I do NOT like. Reviews will downplay this, even mine will, please take the fucking hint.
>The FOV is just a slight bit better than the Quest 2, colleague says on par with Quest 3.
>115 degree "max", I have a 72mm IPD and my estimates put it around 95 degrees, but that was with a thick "generic" facial interface and definitely could be improved, but it's going to suffer from the same IPD related problems as the Quest 2.
>Did I mention how heavy it was?
>The headstrap feels amazing for about 15 minutes, but fails to keep the enormous weight off your face.
>It put me in mind of my old modified Samsung Odyssey headset, similar weight but better balance, insufficient headstrap.


I've yet to hear anyone mention the heat, although:
>Reviews will downplay this, even mine will, please take the fucking hint.

i just figured out the pico video player supports handtracking

>>432708048
I already told you you act like someone that will buy the apple shit, dumb ESL retard. Pay attention.

>>432710001
>stereo, sequential, or mixed.
Who the fuck still renders sequentially?
Multiview extensions are how old at this point? 5 years?
>single or multi-pass
Who cares? You would need all pixels ready for present anyway, the max latency is fixed.
>Guessing which eye is being rendering during rendering is extremely difficult.
Why? Doesn't make sense. Both eyes are being rendered at the same time, multiview is a thing.

>>432711117
>>Runs HOT
>>It's so much heavier than it should be.
why the fuck did they overspec it this much in terms of computation and add all those heavy ass aluminum\glass?

it should have been a quest competitor with mindblowing displays, an iphone CPU and lightweight materials

>>432645805
An irasutoya avatar would be fun to play around with

>>432706625
Green hell?

>>432712114
walkind dead saints and sinner 1
just finished the story and really enjoyed it overall

>>432707245
>already using apple buzzwords non-stop like "spatial computing" and talking about how many "spatial computers" people will have in a few years
its over, he's been mindbroken.

>>432711854
https://iliaskapouranis.com/2020/07/13/is-single-pass-stereo-worth-it/

Sequential isn't extremely common but some games are still using it because of things like this.

Perhaps there's a misunderstanding here. It's extremely easy for a developer to implement native support on their own. The problems I'm outlining and what I'm talking about is when you try to force it via external tools which have more limited access and ability to interface with the engine. The GPU has no idea what "eye" is being rendered too, it cannot on its own decide to apply the correct VRS mask because it has no concept of "eyes" without being told by the game. Something, somewhere has to set up that mask BEFORE rendering starts. Only the game knows that information and so if the game isn't properly set up to support it that's why injection methods can sometimes be a headache due to the dynamic nature of DFR without having very deep access to the game's engine and inner workings.

>>432711868
It basically does have an iPhone CPU.
People are saying it's overpowered when it's a down-specced iPad Pro processor with the TDP severely limited.
The constant throttling ensures you cannot actually manage to do anything intensive with it.
The real purpose of the R1 chip is the maintain spatial tracking while the M2 struggles, so you'll never lose the smoothness even while the M2 is getting throttled back by half, barely managing to not catch fire while it chews its way through normal mundane tasks.

That delightful clip they showed of Death Stranding running with PS4 level graphics and struggling to maintain 45FPS? That's with the M2 Max 24 core CPU with 76 GPU cores.
The Vision Pro has 8 CPU cores, and 8 GPU cores, it's the weakest version of the M2, and it still generates way too much heat for this thing.
It's inefficient as fuck, paired with the 2 insanely bright primary displays, plus the additional lenticular front display, jammed into a glass sandwich.
That's why the thing just DRINKS power and even the (~30W) external battery pack can only run it for about 2 hours of web browsing and note taking, less than 1 hour watching a 4K movie.
The peak power draw is easily over 45W, that's a 45W heater attached directly to your face.
The iPad Pro overheats, the MacBook Air overheats, this thing will overheat and thermal throttle endlessly.

What would be a good headset to graduate into from a Quest 2 if the Apple headset is just a MacBook and Quest 3 won't have eyetracking?

>>432713536
with it's price point i'd expect the most bleeding edge cooling on the market in that thing
i thought it had laptop-tier power

>>432713674
Well do you want a standalone headset? What's your IPD? What's your primary use? What about the Quest 2 makes you want to upgrade?

Look at the Pico 4 Pro. I don't actually recommend it, I recommend you sit and wait another year, but the Pico 4 Pro would be an upgrade.
Pancake lenses, better IPD adjustment range, better passthrough, slightly higher resolution, 90Hz ONLY no 120Hz, significantly better FOV and FAR superior Binocular Overlap, weighs close to the same as the Quest 2 but also adds Eye and Face tracking.
Technically it's Chinese-market only, but like everything else of course you can just buy one anyway.

>>432707245
stopped watching after 30 mins
bradley is now an insufferable apple shill

>>432714119
It has MacBook Air-tier power, so you're technically correct.

>>432714571
its just pico 4 with eye trackers right?
i really wish q3 had em, im considering upgrading to it just for the passthough

>>432714571
There's no software to forward the P4 Pro eye tracking data to VRC last time I checked

>>432713157
>because of things like this.
Read the article. It feels like it is written for unity "developers", if you know what I mean.
The "problems" highlighted are not real fundamental problems, the advice can be summarized to "just don't be retarded".
>that's why injection methods can sometimes be a headache due to the dynamic nature of DFR without having very deep access to the game's engine and inner workings.
I have no idea why people willingly torture themselves by hacking the rendering pipelines written by retards.
I would want to kill myself, if had to do it.

>>432714670
Dunno. He said "I want a headset with the same hardware, but opensource and on linux", which I think is a reasonable take.

>>432608786
hey!!

movie starting soon... in about 10 minutes!
Tonight we're watching Watchmen
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Who watches the Watchmen?

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>>432714797
>pico 4 with eye trackers right?
Eye and Face! The Pico 4 Pro is probably the "best" all-around and "best value" headset there is currently, but it's Chinese-market and Chinese-quality.
On paper it's a no-brainer, and an incredible value at $600USD, but the reality is you won't find it for MSRP outside of China, support for it is shit, they have the same QC issues as the standard Pico 4 shipping headsets with shit-tier lenses and fucked up screens.
So god damned good "on paper" but in reality its a bit of a shit experience much like the regular Pico 4, a great headset but not great quality or support behind it, and typically over $800USD into your hands outside of China.

>>432715052
It's working! It's all still hacky shit, but it has been done and both Eye and Face tracking are working quite well.

>>432713674
quest 3 or beyond

>>432708231
yeah, I double checked and this FFR injectable i've mentioned actually doesn't have center position, and I guess I can now see the problem of angle between two eyes when you're looking at something close by, probably easy to implement in game, not so much in an injectable.

Oh well.

What exactly is the point of their headset? Usually I can gleam an idea theough discussions online but everyone is literally just talking about the insane price. What exactly is this headset bringing to the table that makes almost 4k dollars for it reasonably?

>>432715662
you can still order it regardless of what 'market' it is i think the question is if you'll have non chinese software for it and if you'll be able to open an account to get virtual desktop.

it seems like great value if you need face&eyes, i wonder if the foveated rendering will work in pcvr.

honestly i only want eye tracking if i can use it to control the headset. i basically want the applel eyes/hand interface but in a non applel product. im kinda hoping q3 gets delayed and then they announce it has eye tracking and UI but thats too much to hope for

>>432716604
Literally nothing.
There's nothing interesting or of note about it aside from the high quality of the displays, as was expected of an Apple product.
It's marketed as a laptop alternative when it's basically a $3500 iPad Pro strapped to your face.

The FOV is worse than a Quest 2, it weighs more than a Samsung Odyssey, there are no controllers and they have no intention of doing controller tracking of any kind, it's incapable of anything that we currently associate with VR aside from watching 360 panoramic video like we all did with our cellphones 8 years ago, it runs too hot, it has no battery life, and any damage to the front glass will completely disable it.

By retards, for retards, gibmedat monee.

>>432716604
let itoddlers get into vr

>>432717391
23 megapixel tho

>>432717613
Is that a custom environment? Everything is fucking low res on my p4
Wish I could easily hack apps/games resolution to native 2160x2160 even if it meants lower framerate

>>432716604
Displays that are close to or at the tolerable threshold for lengthy and varied use.
Standalone hardware that can perform tasks comparable to a dedicated computer/laptop.
That's it. It's the closest we've seen to a laptop replacement but it comes with some huge caveats that undermine it's purpose.

>>432717613
Yes, it's very pretty. If you want a headset just to look through at and remark at the quality, it's THE headset, nothing else compares.
It's an overtly fancy 3D camera, hardly even qualifies as a VR headset given there's NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
Email, Reddit, overheat while writing a note, it's an iPad.
Watch a movie, take a photo, stay tethered the whole time because of shit battery life, it's an iPad.
It handles TikTok and Youtube reasonably well and barely throttles when watching 1080p video, it's an iPad.

It's the newest and most expensive iPad, the new iPad Face.

>>432716604
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

>show lots of VR use cases for the headset
>never explicitly mention VR
this autism confused me

>>432717853
no its one of the stock immersed enviroments
i think it runs 2160 its just that the max screenshot resolution of the headset is 1920
>>432718309
they'll add virtual desktop,immersed for it.
its literally a brand new XR operating system no shit that there's no software for it.

14 player pavlov is funlov

>>432718601
>i think it runs 2160
breh I've never seen this one in the list of default environement
when enabling the Overlay metrics on my P4, it clearly shows the environement running at like 1500x1500 which is fucking aliased to shit

>>432718601
>they'll add virtual desktop
Oh good then you'll just need some base stations and controllers for tracking because the headset can't accommodate controllers.
Then it'll be a $3500 VR headset with a shit FOV that weighs 700g "but it has Virtual Desktop so if you already have a PCVR rig you can use it as a sub-par wireless headset!"

>its literally a brand new XR operating system no shit that there's no software for it.
Huh, maybe they should've made something for it, like ANYTHING for it before they showed it off. Seems pretty fucking stupid to show off hardware without demonstrating its capabilities.

Fuck off retard

>>432707245
average brad chatter intelligence

>government developed headset

would you use it?

>>432719106
i need to check the metrics i never tried
and yes its one of the defaults
maybe you buy it with the currency you get for using the app idk

>>432719293
virtual desktop and immersed are working on apple controls for their apps as we speak

and they showed a lot of software, far more than any headset launching with a new OS did before release.

prediction: this will be the standard recording device of the porn industry for a while

stop baiting

>>432721091
No.

>>432701747
>>432703939
What's ironic is that the Beyond headset needs an iphone to scan your face.

>>432720435
>and they showed a lot of software, far more than any headset launching with a new OS did before release.
They showed iPad apps.
It was a bad presentation, it's a pathetic headset with pretty screens, defending them is sad.

>>432721823
>Even more app experiences: Apple Vision Pro has an all-new App Store where users can discover apps and content from developers, and access hundreds of thousands of familiar iPhone and iPad apps that run great and automatically work with the new input system for Vision Pro.
>familiar iPhone and iPad apps

>>432720435
>new OS
Don't use words if you don't even know what they mean.
It's a "new OS" the way of their Apple tvOS, it still shares ALL of the same underlying shit that runs on the iPhone, iPad, AppleTV.
Meta could've applied a skin on top of Android and called it "MetaOS" if they wanted to, but they're not trying to market to retards and faggots who don't even know what they're buying.
That's Apple's market exclusively, ignorant cunts.

>>432721823
The fact that they have the entire iPad/iPhone apps available on launch is far more than any headset productivity headset.

>>432711117
The Tested mentioned nothing about the heat and I'm gonna find him more credible than some random anon who is just repeating shit that has already been public.

It's just funny to me how people are allowed to talk about the weight, FOV, but somehow the heat is the one thing they're not allowed to talk about? That makes no sense at all.

he's right
if they added anime girl eyes to the outside screen it would be 10 times more successful

Quest 2 user here. I quite enjoy my headset, but the random hiccups from virtual desktop bother me sometimes. Should I just bite the bullet on a pc headset or just wait another year for a different upgrade

>>432722834
upbooted, my fellow reddirtor
us ironic weebs, am i rite?

>>432628846
>Not based
yeah its cringe

>>432722482
>20 minutes of looking at and taking photos and videos
>Browses the web real good
>Their own Dinosaur demo has PS3 graphics

You hear what you want to hear to justify the $3500 shit-tier headset with pretty screens that Apple has just shat-out because you're a faggot who knows nothing.

>>432723235
Which pc headset are you thinking off? What tracking solutions? It's pretty hard to beat the quest 2 300$ pricetag, even with all the issues it has.

>>432722834
If they used human beings for the commercials they'd be successful.

>>432715052
There is. Official Pico streaming assistant and there is a VRCFT module to grab the data.

>>432722834
I'm not against the idea of a panel on the front to show when the user can see via passthrough but they should just use some cheap low power LCD and stylized visual instead of this uncanny flat scuba goggle effect.

>>432720169
it doesn't exist

>>432723235
There's not much for a PC headset. The only new decent option is bigscreen but that doesn't even have a wireless option and you need base stations + index controllers so it'd cost like $1500 USD. Also, you need an iPhone to scan your face so they can make a custom face gasket. You can wait for the Quest 3 and I'm sure it'll be the best wireless headset because of the new chip, and software will probably be hella polished by then.

>>432723425
People who will buy a $3500 headsets are people who love buying first generation shit and have the money to do so. No one buying it will care about the money being spent.

>>432723449
I don’t think tracking matters much since I ended up getting base stations. As for headsets, my eyes were on the HP Reverb since I heard that was really good for playing games on, the index since that seems the be gold standard (even though I don’t want to deal with the constant RMAs) and the Pico 4. I have slight interest in the Quest 3, but I’m iffy on it

Anyone know what happened to JamBam? Haven't seen him in forever.

>>432723881
idk it looks kinda cool imo when it does the color thing in pic
its not as cool looking as the beyond but it is a cool looking headset

>>432723979
>No one buying it will care about the money being spent.
Or the features, capabilities, specs, comfort, use-case, ...

I can't wait to see someone wearing one of these pieces of shit at a Starbucks, I won't be able to contain myself, I'll laugh until I piss myself.
Though I don't expect to get that opportunity here, they wouldn't make it to the Starbucks before Jay-mawl and Quetzalcoatl beat them to death for their pawnables.

Will the west ever get the pico 4 pro at MSRP? I'd buy the thing right now if I could get it for 600 USD

im gonna buy the first headset that rips off the apple hand+eye interface
im tired of controllers

>>432715662
I just don't see why you wouldn't want to spend $400 more for the Meta Pro which has local dimming, 12 GB of rams versus 8, 2 more sensors, a stronger processor, an actual next gen controller, charging dock to easily charge everything, better pancake lenses, better software, better tracking, and hell, you can also use the Meta pro controllers on the Q3. There's just way more value out of the Meta Pro.

>>432724194
Eh, I'm not gonna lie. The Beyond has always looked like a 3D printed home made headset. It looks cheaply made. Vision Pro actually looks futuristic and extremely high quality.

>>432724194
imagine the weight

>>432724843
thats the price right now

>>432724960
Also, no fucking headphone jack on the Pico 4?

>>432725139
Send me a link

>>432724194
>wasting battery life on a screen that you can't see
bravo tim apple

>>432725139
I've read bad stuff about CN imports for Picos. Like a week ago or so they pushed firmware/OS updates to prevent you from region switching so you get completely locked to the CN region. The owomushi guy had a complete meltdown over it. Kind of a shame since the headset seems really good in terms of features at this price point.

>>432725206
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholesale-Pico-4-pro.html

>>432725310
They have to be, they're currently and thin ice and at a risk of being barred from the US entirely.
Their focus is on their biggest product, TikTok, these Pico headsets are just a faff for them, they aren't worth trying to push into the US while they're fighting to keep their most profitable product in the most profitable market.

>>432723997
>I have slight interest in the Quest 3, but I’m iffy on it
Why are you iffy on it but have the Pico 4 in mind when you can't even buy controller replacements for the Pico 4 and the support is worse than Index, so you're likely to have a shit experience with RMA? The Q3 will have a next gen chip which will very likely benefit PCVR because of better encoding options and possibly better wifi capabilities.

>>432725528
They're not going to push shit in the US until the FBI finishes their investigation.

>>432718815
it's very based, I wish we could have that more often

>>432725562
115$ controllers

>>432726212
Are these the official replacements by Pico themselves?

>>432725562
Well I heard a lot of great things about the pico, especially when compared to the Quest 2. I’m willing to give the Quest 3 a shot, but I’m hoping they have a stand-alone version since I already own pro controllers

If you're buying a chinese headset or one without native steam vr support you are an idiot.

>>432726419
Do you need them to be personally blessed by the pico CEO or what?

>>432726772
Want to know that they're not shit, aftermarket controllers can be trash, whether we're talking VR or console gaming.

i hope they add the hand shit to pico
the pico os hand tracking is already decent even if the hand ui is kinda meh

>>432727046
First time buying chinkshit?
It's not madcatz, those controllers are manufactured on the same factories.

>>432726212
Really nigga?

>>432727353
So they're the the stock ones, not shitty lookalike aftermarket ones. Thanks buddy.

>>432727221
They need a way bigger dataset for the AI detection to work
Meta beat them to the punch and I don't think pico will catch up until many months from now

Imagine needing to see your hands to type.
Stupid fucking normalfaggots and their love for useless gimmicks.

>>432727742
arent immersed doing their own hand tracking?
pico probably havent shared their api or its shit

Why is Tabor's netcode so much better than Pavlov's?

>>432727991
its even better than tarkov which is really funny

>>432728659
Tarkov's has the same problems as Pavlov. Possibly even worse.

>>432727991
I've only played contractors as a pvp vr fps so I've got no other points of reference and I'm not too fond of the netcode. It's too lenient on letting high pingers get the advantage on you. Hows Tabor exactly? Piggyback question but is there a vr fps game with netcode similar to CSGO where everything is server sided?

>>432728864
I personally find CSGO netcode incredibly bad. I guess it doesn't like some aspect of my connection that other games ignore, but it's essentially unplayable.

>>432728762
Tarkov's is every bit as bad as pavlov's, yeah. Both games have an insane level of peeker's advantage. You become 300% better at tarkov once you realize that the way to win is to just always rush the other side down.

>>432728864
>CSGO where everything is server sided
Since when csgo is completely server sided?

>>432707245
He looks like he's gonna troon out soon.

>>432729606
Unless you count local movement prediction as a core pillar of netcode then probably around 2013~
Ever models you see on the map is virtually images of your ping - 1 tick, spread patterns are server side to fuck up with cheaters. Backward reconciliation on shots, first to hit is prio with damage so you never get instanced of two guys killing each others in a firefight. It even occludes players through the maps as well to fuck up with ESP if your POV is not meant to see them.
Might suck if you get 70+ ms to the server with jitters and packet loss but for most of western europe it's an amazing experience I think.

>>432730118
>spread patterns are server side
That change was long after the skins update, not 2013.
>first to hit is prio with damage so you never get instanced of two guys killing each others in a firefight.
That's because all the guns are hitscan. Most vr shooters actually simulate bullet travel.
>Unless you count local movement prediction as a core pillar of netcode
Because it's fucking is? Why do you think peekers advantage/dying behind corners is a thing in the first place?
Saying csgo is completely server-sided is just wrong.
Half of the things you listed, while useful, don't really fall into the "netcode" category.

>>432727562
btfo

Does vrg consider Karin a loli model?

vrfg has a serious paedo problem holy shit

>>432729957
he's been hrt for years. nipples protruding
>>432732585
who?

>>432732694
>who?
Your hairy little brother

>>432732268
yes. but also who cares.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVSd7i2sIw

>>432732268
no

>>432732268
Would you consider a character like Asuka to be a loli?

>>432732268
yes

>>432732268
absolutely yeah

>>432733639
I appreciate the comparison but would say that in this picture Asuka's thicker neck, smaller head, and smaller eyes proportionally, among other things, make her look quite a bit different.

He's asking specifically about this one btw;
https://booth.pm/en/items/3470989

He wants to know if this is too loli-ish.

>>432734459
well yeah no shit thats loli, whats the problem?

>>432732268
Yes, crinkle boy

>>432734459
ToT

>>432734459
>is thirteen still loli? its got the "teen" in it after all
Yes, the model of the small child is in fact a model of a small child.

>>432735652
>>432735035
>>432734859
>>432734825
>>432734058
>>432733956
>>432733332
Thanks.

>>432735741
All you gotta do is stretch her out to be over 5ft tall and suddenly it's a small-statured woman and not a prepubescent schoolgirl.

>>432736152
Oh they stretch her alright, don't worry.

>>432697438
No, but most of vrg should lose weight like the ducks.

>>432724134
I miss him

>>432724843
Not when bytedance is banned in the US

>>432724134
he's going through some irl things
he had a sudden showup at the nl meet but it seems he's taking a break again

>>432715295
thank you all for coming!
i did not expect that to be so long sweet jesus

see those who can make it next week for something shorter than this

Trying some snow drifting in Assetto Corsa tomorow night at 8PM EDT (about 24.5 hours from now).
We'll be running the Red Ring track from the WDTS Winter Drift pack, along with the drift cars from the same pack with studded tires.
Linked the mod pack plus a mirror below, both should have the same files.
Server is up now if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mod pack: https://files.assettocorsaclub.com/file/acclub-files/3faf8a/WinterDriftPack2020_v12.zip
mirror: https://mega.nz/file/EUoRlYbB#WiB0oAr8cd5aHB5nAqvS0tgMznQ7WD7sWOLObIi4vuo

>>432744553
Also, here's the car list in case anyone is curious.
Can't take any requests this time around because of how the mod pack works.

>>432744553
this week sounds like a lot of fun, thanks for putting these together every week

>>432744553
I can't drift.

anyone got experience with pimax? might just ditch the idea of owning a declared or that big screen headset.

>>432745993
The little bit I was able to do when the EUs were running it was pretty fun, I'm looking forward to it.
Thanks for showing up, wouldn't be as fun by myself.
>>432748484
Snow drifting with these tires actually helps if you're interested in learning. It lets you practice at low speed where you have more time to react to everything going on.

>>432748849
chinkshit in the worst form.
constantly overpromise and underdeliver
garbage software
if you have any standards whatsoever, avoid it like a plague

>>432748849
>giving up on deckard
>giving up on bigscreen
>thinking chinkshit is the answer for hardware
anon, i...

>>432749087
>>432749229
yeah but have you actually owned one and tried it?

>>432748849
>>432749087
That's about it.
Pimax makes very technically impressive headsets, but they're SHIT for the end user.
Shit quality, shit support, their lightest headsets are heavy as fuck, their smallest headsets are MASSIVE.
They're REALLY fucking cool on paper, and REALLY cool to stick your face into one (The Pimax Crystal is a hell of a thing).

Pimax headsets are like boats, you don't want to own a boat, nobody should buy a boat, but it's cool to have a friend who made that mistake themselves and lets you enjoy it from time to time.

>>432749025
>>432745018
>>432744553
I can't drift. I can't even correct oversteer without crashing.

>>432749025
I'm a FWD god. Fuck drifting.

>>432748849
5k super was jank
didn't fit my face super well so each side looked pretty different and I could see the whole display further away on one side
wide fov is neat
leap motion addon was neat
warping at edges was obvious
rainbow abberation was obvious
pitool sucked

>>432749458
If nothing else, it'd at least help you get better at correcting oversteer.
>>432749807
Using lift-off oversteer to get FWD cars to turn can be fun too.

I like doing the 5 extracts without dying mission in Tabor like a roguelike game. Start with a lv1 chest rig, a backpack, and a pistol. Go in silo and immediately try to get a long gun. After a long gun is acquired, attempt to get armor and a helmet. Each time I extract, I can only use the upgraded gear I've picked up from the previous run. Finally got my first clear today!

Finally Announcing our summer event DJs: Brooke and M!! I shouldve done this over the weekend but I was doing weekend things. Work on those Summer outfits when you can!

>>432748849
Pimax is the worst bootleg chinkshit you can imagine. Their latest product launch was a fucking disaster, shipped with tons of issues.

Only Shillseeker could come up with a title praising the Apple's price-tag.

>>432757413
it beats the XR3!!!
at... being an iPad on your head

>>432647981
08th MS Team starting in 10-15 minutes, watching episodes 1-4 tonight. You can join off Silencen or anyone in New Cinema 1336 if you're interested.

bros... our content drop...

hello it's time for Tuesday pypy:
https://vrch.at/6wg2hq7j
or join on Lycosella

>>432759550
oh fuck yes!

>apple invented VR, and it sucks
>nobody's going to buy this, everyone hates headsets

>>432748849
Dextero is the only person I'm aware of around these parts to own one

when does tipsy tuesday start?

>>432765980
its cancelled

Remember me?

>>432765980
Check trash, he usually posts it there since its a trash first event.

>>432766431

>>432759791
fun pypy all
next NA pypy is Thurs 10 PM ET / 7 PM PT

>>432775472
finally a good avatar

>>432724960
i fucking love transparent electronics, beyond looks like something straight out of snow crash or a william gibson book

i hope it succeeds and they make more headsets in that style. maybe a quest 3 competitor eventually

>>432766431
People in this community actually bought in on the Kickstarter. I wish I could remember who so I could laugh at them.

>>432782963
kinda curious to know what actually happened to the company. was it just a scam?

>>432782963
off the top of my head, RH, R, Y, M, S, and BH

>>432784193
iirc from what ex devs said it wasn't set out as a scam but they over promised and ran out of money

>>432784943
That's pretty much it.
Sad part is the headset was real, and it was god damned good.
They overextended tremendously, realized they couldn't afford to do a Sony and lose shitloads of money on their headset in hopes of making it back later. Pushed anyway, and kept pushing, and tried to partner up with another company to manufacture it as a cost-saving measure. That also failed miserably. Tried to keep things under wraps while grasping for funds, "disgruntled" employees started saying the quiet part out loud, and it all fell apart.
Wasn't a scam, there was no cut and run, it was just a very poorly operated business that failed slowly.

>>432786184
what country were they from again?

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Picture this: you, exceptionally racist, effortlessly swinging through towering trees, feeling the wind ruffle your virtual fur, while your friends wallow in their dreary daily routines. Oh, the envy they'll feel when they witness you, the mighty gorilla, conquering the sunken pirate ship map! Yes, you heard it right! We've got a brand-new map where you can unleash your inner swashbuckling gorilla, complete with ropes and ziplines to add that extra thrill!

So grab your VR headsets, fasten your virtual jungle boots, and prepare to dive into the most exhilarating and laughter-inducing game you'll ever experience. Join us in "Gorilla Tag" and be part of the vibrant community that swings, taunts, and triumphs together!

Remember, mark your calendars for this Friday at 11:00 AM UTC and dive into the thrilling chaos of the "4chan" room. And don't forget about the sunken pirate ship map, where ropes and ziplines await your gorilla prowess. It's time to go ape and embrace the adventure!

Don't monkey around and let this opportunity slip through your fingers like a ripe banana. Join "Gorilla Tag" today and let's swing into action together, creating memories that'll have you laughing uncontrollably!

>>432786497
Number 24, Sukhumvit soi 43, Watthana
Bangkok, 10110
Thailand

>>432787874
the picture says sunday but its FRIDAY

FRIDAY
FRIDAY
FRIDAY
FRIDAY

>>432787874
i thought this was a cvr event when i read chimpout

>just finished watching WWDC 2023
They said magic/magical 19 times during the 40min section on Apple vision pro. I felt they sold their device better than METAs attempt at selling the quest pro. I”m keen to try one out when my local Apple Store gets them in.

>>432757413
>pride flag in profile picture
I hate this faggot so much

>>432689801
>nta
what the fuck does this mean why do i see it in so many posts are you ironically saying "not the asshole"?

>>432793415
"not that anon"
meaning, "i'm responding, but the original reply wasn't mine"

>>432793415
Please lurk for 2 more years before posting again.

>>432743857
What's his endgame?

>>432793415
reddit
>>432793501
reddit with autism

>>432793516
>>432794047
fuck off ive been here since 2004 and have never seen that shit until recently

New record everyone

>>432794281
"NTA" has been used by reddit refugees for like 2 years now, don't worry about it

>>432794035
All toilets. Cleaned.

RE7 and 8 are on sale. Are the VR mods any good?

>>432794035
On my bed

Contractors lobby on Friday at 18:00 UTC!!
Mod list:
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-ghosts-favela
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-mwr-crossfire
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-mw2-terminal
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/mcdonalds
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/gunsmokeandcharmclassic
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/haloloadoutmod
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/h3moonstandoff
Going to try running the game bi-weekly alternating with Gorilla Tag for a while, put them both on the calendar in the OP.

>>432743857
My wife RN is so cute!

>apple announces headset
>vr thread dies

>>432807264
Thanks for the necro bump!

>>432795054
Now change it to "LOSING GEAR TO BUGS" and track conveyor belt eating your items.

>>432798165
BUT BREACHERS!!

>>432808030
I need to track items I put in before the conveyor starts eating. However I highly suspect it is random because I have had the case where I reloaded the safehouse and the very first item I put in was eaten.
But yes, bugs and crashes eat up a good 50% of my stuff.

>>432808120
I think EU doesn't breach anymore

>>432794035
to collect disability cheques after blinding himself by shining cheap chinese lasers into his eyes

>>432808120
Thats not SEA breachers thats an EU lobby

>>432810440
Yes, EU breachers is a staple friday game

>>432810496
hyperdash lasted longer than breachers

>>432811520
And tabor is going to outlast all of em

>>432811520
Hyperdash was better for community organized lobbies. Local voice chat, quick respawns, competent bots and sometimes free to play.
Breachers is too competitive focused. No chatting with the other team at all, only being able to watch your teammates during the long downtimes, useless bots that put you at a major disadvantage and it all gets repetitive fast.
Somehow these are two of the most polished multiplayer VR games yet also the only ones I've bought to play with /vrg/ that I've not got much value out of.

>>432815873
well hyperdash is free again, people just aren't into it because of the gameplay and no modding support like pavlov/contractors

>>432794035
O kurwa...

Hey, PyPy today at 17 UTC that's in a bit less than 3h , see you dancing, keep hydrated as the heat comes

vids here:

https://rentry.org/vrgpypy

>>432807264
>apple announces exclusively AR (read: iPad/iOS apps only) HMD
epic

>>432811520
breachers is probably happening after gorilla tag
i'll host it myself is busta doesn't

>>432815873
Breachers really needs those 2 new maps
It could also do with more deathmatch maps and a free4all mode

>>432818957
Yes i will host SEA breachers this friday 9pm aest

Started with nothing but the M1911 and managed to make it out of Island with
>purple keycard
>GPU
>tier III armor
>tier IV helmet
>large backpack
>silenced vector 9mm with a laser and two 50 round drums
>silenced M4 with a laser, angled grip and Holo sight + magnifier
>PP Bizon

>>432820104
Bad news for you is that the purple keycard doesn't open anything. The rest of the stuff though is gold, did you cap some players?

Am I just unlucky, or is there never anything good outside of orange keycard rooms?

>>432787874
gorilla tag changed to 9:30 AM UTC btw so as not to interfere with SEA BREACHERS

>>432820335
It's a case of luck and yes most stuff doesn't really spawn outside of keycard rooms. You can make a decent living with the GPUs, food and attachments that spawn outside of it though. Outside, high tier armor spawns often enough, but only the tan helmet is routinely found. You're not gonna find many scars but you'll find M4s and good armor.

>>432820209
>the purple keycard doesn't open anything
Fug, I was hoping it would open one of the secured areas that seem to contain solid loot
>did you cap some players
I ended the raid with 7 Fenix kills and 4 Ghost kills. That Bizon I picked up after killing a player with my 1911 who wasnt paying attention while looting the church off the bat, I took down a duo with an AKM I picked up off a Fenix, then finally the amour/helmet, Vector, and M4 all came from a kitted player I caught with his back turned to me while making my way to the boathouse extract. He was camping in the grass looking towards the area and I wanna say I dumped half of the 64 round Bizon mag to take him down

>>432820335
Its rare but ive picked up the occasional SCAR, MP7, or ASVAL but like >>432820656 said you'll mostly be coming across low to mid range stuff

>>432821549
Sounds like a very solid solo run. Jealous of the t4 helmet.

>>432823278
Thanks anon. I took a break to make some breakfast but I have the day off and still feel like im in the middle of a Tabor kick. I didnt play for the entirety of May and know its kinda pointless with the wipe coming a little over 3 weeks from now but im a few missions away from getting Spectre to level 3 and wanna mess around with some different guns before starting from scratch again

>back from vr break
>go to just b
>start interacting with a mute
>start to cuddle
>take it to another instance
>erp

>>432823876
Once you hit spectre level 3 you're basically finished trader levelling

>>432821549
Holy shit I love tabor, looting and shooting is so much better then shitlov gungayme

>>432824328
I just wanna rip through Silo runs with the Saiga anon. Through past raids ive already accumulated 4 standard mags and a drum mag for it. If I can find another drum by the time I reach Spectre level 3 ill be a happy lad

>>432824556
Me too anon. The new trailer shows at least 2 maps on the console as well as a night mode for Island. I imagine there'll be a gap between each new map but im excited either way

>>432825909
What trailer?

i wonder where their displays are made
if they have some timed exclusivity contract going on we're gonna get some sweet high res screens in a couple of years

im glad someone is pushing the display fabs to the limit

>>432829631
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdSJ3CIoJVU
Around the 40 second mark you can see two new maps available on the console, 1:05 shows the Island at night

>>432829752
some 2 weeks old video from brad mentionned he tested some 3550x3550 micro oled panels from the same chinese company everyone uses for their display

>>432831245
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOtuMMi9LX4
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