/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1569

I like Virtual Reality! Wow!!!

Only 23 days. More info on hats will be coming out in a week or a week and a half.

TL;DR: Udon 2 is fucked.

>>472131048
VRChat fires head Udon developer

>>472131048
>>472131290
Depends on how complete it was, but it definitely would've been better if he was around to finish it.
Whole situation sounds like a mess from both sides honestly.

>>472131048
These people just can't stop shooting themselves in the foot. I bet they got overtaken by a Karen HR sprawl and stopped being a software company.
They went from not caring about the community creators because they were retarded, to not caring because they aren't their main business partners

Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 reminder, we're currently running 2000cc in Germany.
Event runs through the Monday after next (4/15), so you'll have plenty of time to get some practice in if you need it.
Club link is in the OP rentry if you're interested.

Running some pre-war cars at the 1938 version of Donnington Park in Assetto Corsa tonight at 8PM EDT (a little over an hour from now).
Car list is in pic related.
Mods are below and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg

>>472131735
This isn't VR...

>>472131048
>>472131290
Every paragraph there a "I was rude" or "I yelled at my manager".
It's kinda sad the dude was probably one of the only people actually working, but yeah, you can't do that. It's from his point of view too so the level to which he was rude is probably understated.

>>472131949
What do you mean? Those are the famous VR characters Selestia and Rindo

>>472129967 (Cross-thread)
spot the difference

>>472132346
the nose knows the difference.

>>472132346
Lookin' good, Yuru! (Jokingly, please do not ban me)

Theres often so much debate on which is the superior race of VRG, how can we finally solve this once and for all?
Thats right, its time for the
:: VRG Race War ::
What is this?
Six races will send out representatives of their team to participate in glorious minigame combat to earn points, the winning clan will earn the title of the superior race.
Demons have been replaced with the minority etc team sorry demons

Theme:
Gladitory arena turned into a graffiti'd slum
There will be assets attached to later posts so you can show your racial pride or hatred toward others.
Signs and slogans will be encouraged.

When?
It will be my first map and event so please be patient with me.
Ideal starting date will be after the NL meet concludes, early to mid May.
This will be an NA event unless there is an EU who would like to host and run it for that timezone.

The Team captains / staff have been picked and locked.
If you have any pro/anti graffiti or posters for any races you'd like added to the map please post them here or DM them to Ivana Dai
I'll see you on the battlefield.

>>472132390
Oy goyim, just because I'm a lawyer doesn't mean I'm jewish.

>>472131975
It's fucking insane that companies value "being polite" over "actually being one of the few people to actually get shit done"

How does polite make the number go up faster than actually producing things?

>>472132787
Unironically it’s about control. They value submission even higher than profits.

>nooooo don't be mean to your superiors :(((((
>it was BOTH sides!!! :(((((
>reeeeeee
/vrg/ins are chiming in on what a burnout is and the kind of language that someone with severe symptoms of one is using when felt cornered.

>>472132942
Not control, the correct term is authority. Very easy to get addicted to.

with all the shitposting in the end of the last thread, probably nobody saw it so I'm just going to post once more; NA anime at 10 pm est in vrchat

>>472127649 (Cross-thread)

>>472132787
>It's fucking insane that companies value "being polite" over "actually being one of the few people to actually get shit done"
Welcome to the modus operandi of modern western countries. Make sure to respect the pronouns.

>>472135319
Far right is passable but only as an unfortunate looking woman. Far left is clearly putting a lot of work in so honorable mention to xhem.

actually maybe it's time for an honest to god boycott. it happened over the EAC debacle but that was mostly upset users

if creators themselves pulled out for a while and stopped giving the game content to thrive, it might light a fire under their butts to do better.
Things I think might help:

- Ceasing high-profile community events
- Pulling worlds offline (either deleting or privating them until a resposne is provided)
- Privating public avatars
- Asking for an official response
- A document outlining issues the creator community has

>>472136807
>actually maybe it's time for an honest to god boycott
Here we go again...

>>472136807
It'll go the same way they always do

>>472132787
>>472132942
Are you dense? Dude worked himself into a burnout and has frequent small melties in emails at his manager. At this point, its just a matter of time till a nuclear meltie, he is a liability

>>472136807
>>472136894
>>472137057
chillout xisters... we are back!!!

>>472136807
What do you recommend?
CVR? The platform that has no users and where people don't wanna go because nobody is there?
Resonite? The platform that still to this day has garbage UI, so that you barely can even upload your own avatar?
Roblox?
Where you wanna go?

>Retard has a melty multiple times
>Gets fired

Dont care.

>>472132346
lookin' good yuru!

>>472137132
Yea, but he has melties about things he's objectively right about

>hire a passionate talented guy
>the guy is passionate and trying to fix issues
>karen doesn't like his tone and thinks she knows better
>get sacked

This is how boeing fell.

>>472131048
The manager is an Ass kissing socialite. No good boss would fire a good employee from a few rude letters. VRchat is rotten and the parasitic bearucracy social class has wormed its way in too deep that they have the power to remove the people who actually are building and designing the castle.

He deserved it

>>472137132
>worked himself into a burnout
when he wanted 2 month of vacations (something that seems normal and fine in VRC devs circles) it was denied and shortened to 2 weeks because they wanted him to continue the pace he showed.
Also, the issue with the manager was resolved (according to manager) but it was constantly brought up again.
But yeah, keep sucking that vrc dick and keep that vrc+ sub up!

>>472136807
I'd love to move to cvr, not just out of spite for vrchat or anything but because I actually think it's good. Over something this small, nothing will happen

>>472137542
He deserved it.

>>472137583
LOL

We need more VR games like this

>>472137613
case in point, the moment you suggest trying something new, the contrarians who were, just moments ago discussing how scummy vrchat is, will jump up to condemn you if you suggest using something else instead

>>472137583
throw up an instance then
I'll join

>>472137842
Because the alternative is 100% worse

>>472131975
>>472131048

That’s what happens when you hire enough people who do not know gow to do work. The people who do know how to produce gets irritated.
The bearucracy type people who wormed their way in to the job by being “polite” and a total smoozeball are a big problem in any industry going big.

This is the first glimpse of what the famous line from steve jobs have stated about xerox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3NASGb5m8s

>>472137842
has it occurred to you that you might talk to different people?
One that is saying how shitty vrc is, and one who doesn't care and laughs about you?
Or do you truly think /vrg/ is all one person or a hive mind?

>>472138071
>Because the alternative is 100% worse
>t. lazy gooner who doesn't want to upload shit to somewhere else

>>472138071
It's inferior but I still think it's worth using. I don't think the violent reaction it gets is deserved

>>472131735
Selestia and Rindo Sex

I'm moving to wherever my goon squad goes. If they drop VRChat, I'll be happy to as well.

The Rindo is quite the polarizing subject

>>472139139
Rindosmile...

>>472139139
ngl it's sad to see your face fade into the masses of other rindo faces we have here

>>472139380
Oh okay an why

>>472131875
Assetto Corsa starting now, server details are in the previous post if you're interested.

>>472138124
In smaller tech companies it's often a conflict of interest between fundraising and product design. They're eager to keep expanding but usually not profitable yet so the finance and marketing types steadily gain influence over the company culture and direction of the product in order to acquire additional funding.

>>472132346
lookin' good yurus!

>>472140369
because your face looks like all the other rindo faces we have here
I thought that was pretty clear from the post

>>472141107
Yes yes but what exactly is the issue?

>>472131048
I'd kick a fuss too if my company made me work over christmas break while they enjoy time with their family
I wonder if Ron left because of this he just didn't try to fight back like Merlin did
Ron saw and felt the steady encroachment of socialites who don't know how to do work into the company

>>472142114
>I wonder if Ron left because of this he just didn't try to fight back like Merlin did
Ron was always the worst part of VRChat leadership next to VR Pill so I don't know how you came to that conclusion. If anything he would have been one of the dudebros approving his firing.

vineauce vinny did a VR Chat music video and it's dope. https://youtu.be/ZUg4WmEKeDM?si=ZBBFDh1YMCQhZUWk&t=7134

>>472141802
No issue. Just stating that I liked you better before.
Interpret it however you want.

>>472142271
Huh wasn't ron a programmer and the one who made SDK1?

>>472142426
He was the CCO

>>472131975
or maybe hes just self aware that he wasn't reacting the best he could have in hindsight and doesnt want to pretend he was perfect by downplaying his own problems.
Unless you think his manager and other leadership are being paid somehow even less than him, they are being paid to figure out how to work with useful but autistic employees so those people can actually let their autism get good work done in spite of their social skills.

>>472142913
Oh wtf. I was wrong about my information then. I thought he was one of the OG programmers

>>472142974
This. The manager is a failure
And the higher ups are even more of a fuck up for siding with the manager here when they literally had Merlin work his ass off during weekends, holidays and even christmas break while they snooze.

>>472142383
I am of conflictedness

Who even is the CEO of vrchat

>>472144280
Gaylord. Litreally.

>>472144280
>CEO of vrchat

>>472144280
Some guy named Greg Gaylord or some shit, no one actually knows anything about him really.

>vrc employs netflix, google and spotify high ups
>managers can't take heat anymore
>fire capable people getting shit done because the people pushing excel sheets feefees are hurt
huh never would have seen that comming. Who could have predicted this?

Its actually good that they fire capable people. This way this games developement sill get stuck and they have fewer chances of messing more things up!

>>472144973
It's kinda sad that the pattern always fucking happens. It's depressing even

Every facing time when something gets successful thanks to the work of some autists building it. They get chucked out by newer hires that only know how to socialize.

I hate to see it but it's a pattern as old as companies itself.

NA chess, incredible check edition, in ~1 hour (probably a little longer im always late)

good morning /vrg/!
also, fuck HR niggers

>>472147787
Good morning anon!
HR needs to burn in hell

>>472131048
>>472131290
Why did he delete this post and the tweets?

all my homies hate HR

we need to automatize HR

>>472150001

>>472149787
He probably got told by his friends to delete to so future employers are not alerted. Honestly I think he should not have deleted that so he can get employed somewhere where the people care

>>472144280
Wasn't it VRPill? Man remember when VRPill was still relevant? Remember all the early jan~april 2018 vrc micro ecelebs like chips? I feel so old man.

>>472131048
>>472131290
developer sounds like an autistic fuck who doesn’t know how to work in a business. showing respect to other employees is so little to ask for and autismo couldn’t even do that

>>472151931
to get respect you need to earn it first
he was caring about the user first and foremost, other retards didn't give a fuck, that was the reason for his sperging in the first place

>>472151931
You're a gay faggot. Anyone who cares more about """""""""respect"""""""""" compared to actually getting shit done in a business is a fag or a woman.

Autismos who do shit are worth 10000 gays and women who do nothing but file HR reports and post furry images to twitter.

>>472146489
NA chess is live pls join do puzzle watch people play cry a little sit in a corner idk just show up :3

https://vrch.at/c3g4mvpx

>>472151931
Certified sr dev moment
I hope merlin's code base is unlearnable by whatever hack they put on it
FUCK VRCHAT
and fuck you cock sucking corpo anon

>>472127649 (Cross-thread)
>>472134690
https://vrch.at/evu4gcs2

anime

I need piping hot girlmeat in my shitpipe

>>472154113
wrong thread, yuru

merlin wasn't fired he was given his two months off. that's why he deleted his tweet

>>472152264
>>472152585
>>472153192
you reek of unemployment

>>472154630
HR is not gonna fuck you bro

>>472154908
good luck finding a job Merlin!

Who left the wagiecage open again?

>>472154621
t.HR changing their decision when they saw the public outcry

>>472154630
We’re all gainfully employed by our own merit and not for how hard we can kiss ass. Something you probably have a lot of experience in as a professional asshole licker.

>>472153192
>>Certified sr dev moment
> Am lead at another company
> Also known as autist leading the autists
> It's like herding cats sometimes

>>472155820
im pretty sure theres a bunch of ""metaverse"" boomers wanting to build their own ""metaverse"", just need good contacts, something that most of them want is a plataform that works like vrchat that they can use and profit from it. vrchat has a DMCA for all forms of corporation comercials on it

>>472154630
>he's never seen the untouchable unfriendly boomer murdering 3 people's worth of work who casually drops nigger bombs at work

Silence, child. You know not of what you speak.

>>472158853

>>472151856
VRPill was a moderator and community manager like Tupper. Honestly with this Merlin shit, I can see why VRPill quit, deleted all his worlds, and completely erased his VRPill identity from the internet.

Is there any way to charge/maintain the battery of the quest 3 while using wired link?

>>472160071
Nope, your PC USB ports wont push enough power.

eyetrack parts have started arriving, waiting for all the china stuff across april then hopefully the IR LED kit isnt too far after that

>>472130936
can you please post the previous years hats ?

>>472165802
I suppose so, sure. Here are the first two hats from the first two Chorketownes. Another will be provided later, and i'll probably be revamping and retexturing these two old ones, but if you want one of these two in the original form, go ahead.

https://files.catbox.moe/4w4ia4.zip

>>472166741
what is the official faygo flavor of chorketown?

>>472169224
60/40

https://www.youtube.com/@Nagzz/videos
Oh wow I think he deleted his oldVRchat videos

I miss the dude

>>472159575
He was? Never really felt like a community manager to me, just a generic manager.
Him hating anime probably played a big role, too.

>>472172836
It's on his original account: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrQtPvWYE70MRFXWpTiQ4yA

>>472174120
Based! Thanks for linking anon, didn't know they renamed it.

>>472173868
Someone post the VRPill comment about hating people using half-naked little girl avatars

>>472174351
and where is he now? that's right. he's dead.

>>472174351
>>472177582
we won

>>472177993
I'm not opposed to loli avatars but it's funny with the current state of the game in retrospective

>>472109781 (Cross-thread)
fuck i missed it
is any work currently being carried out on the expansions? It gets stale fast with just the base game

>>472181628
No idea. I would ask the creator but they don't have any contact information.
Maybe we could try Love Letter next time. It's another pretty good simple card game.
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_6bdba474-30c1-4ebd-8b39-3d5e4a38ade1

Anyone got that webm of VRC Nia giving a lap dance? Thought I had it but I don't.

*looks at thread*
Yeah I wonder why people don't bother reaching this dogshit

>>472191026
says the NEET loser

Whatchya lookin at? Just feeding my rabbit

>>472191802
*punches*

>>472131048
>>472131290
He has now deleted all of his posts talking about this situation because someone from VRChat "asked him nicely" to take it down because it was starting to go viral.
Guess we just have to pretend it never happened now.

EU anime tonight at 7PM UTC+1 we're watching Sengoku Youko ep13, Dungeon Meshi ep13, Mashle ep24 and Spice and Wolf ep1

>>472147787
Morning! Damn that looks mega! I should absolutely do a Grey model to match.

>>472188170
Now do Jerma Green Screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Okv_sjk1g

>>472194981
One fox goes and another arrives.

What's a good web browser for the Quest 3? I've tried Wolvic but I want something that works as an app I can have side-by-side with other shit.
Do sideloaded apk browsers work fine?

Also, what the fuck is Udon 2?

Lurk more, newfag.

>>472202510
UDON 2 is vrchat coding

Does anyone know if there's a way to just buy the three battery banks for full body? Everything wants me to buy it in a bundle with other straps but I already have some. Do I just buy new straps?

>>472202510
>web browser for the Quest 3?
the default browser that is basically chrome, wolvic is firefox

>>472202894
Huh? Most commerical battery banks have the batteries themselves integrated into the straps so they're one and the same.
If you want a cheaper, possibly better solution, try getting some fitness straps and then zip-tie regular battery banks (like the cylinder ones) to them, and use short microusb cables. You can even find coiled microusb cables.

>>472202510
>Also, what the fuck is Udon 2?
VRChat "coding language", it's supposed to be a big update to VRChat and Udon 1 which is spaghetti code pile of shit.

>>472203218
Oh and an important detail I forgot: Then strap the fitness strap to your ANKLE or attach the bank to your belt strap.
The battery weight then goes on the ankle and not the foot which actually is way better.

>>472202920
My problem with the default one is that it doesn't have a "Desktop mode" (it doesn't spoof the browser user-agent to get the website to give you a desktop layout instead of the mobile version).
I'm aware the default one is chrome-based and Wolvic is firefox but that feature is engine-agnostic.
Desktop mode is useful to get around DRM so I can fucking watch my footy on the big screen.
I'll try sideloading some browsers next.

>>472203768
I should mention Wolvic has that feature but I don't like how it isn't a floating app like the default browser (or maybe it does, I didn't look too deeply into the settings)

leaked final chapter of berserk

Good afternoon ladies(male) and gentlemen! LOCO Thursday is back again for another healthy round of discussing how much you hate people a little bit more senior than you at your workplace!
Starts 19:30 UTC+1 (i hate the daylight savings system so much it's unreal) join on big gaz or look for the link here.

>>472212095
>i hate the daylight savings system so much it's unreal
Just keep using UTC then, no? Imagine falling for timezone meme.

>>472212271
Well using UTC+1 is still using UTC, just putting the offset in. If you're UTC+2, you just have to cope with the hard mathematics.

>>472213175
Buckbroken wageslave mentality. You are living on the internet, just use UTC everywhere instead of screaming "MUH TIMEZONES".
It's not like you live on a farm, timezones have literally no purpose.
I have my PC's clock is set to UTC for many years at this and I will never go back.

>>472212095
Are you sure it's 19:30 UTC+1? That would make it 18:30 at london time which is 1 hour sooner than usual.
Anyway I have forced mandatory fun at company today so I'll be on but I will be on a little later than usual.

>>472213568
Well it is the buckbroken wageslave meet

>>472213671
London time changed to UTC+1

>>472213568
>I have my PC's clock set to UTC for many years at this point and I will never go back.

>>472213568
I think the only part of using the same international timezone everywhere would be when the day starts. Otherwise I'd be fine with just using a different number for whatever time of day; they're already multiple hours off in many timezones.

>>472212095
>>472213671
>>472213705
Actually I don't even know if the UTC+1 thing is true, daylight savings has fucked me up so hard, I think you were correct after all
Just list the time in raw UTC and I'll go from there

>>472214052
UTC everywhere is just so convenient. Everything is consistent, you learn how to translate your particular location to UTC and you are set. No unnecessary confusion is created.
This mindless fixation on an outdated concept really reminds me of ameriacans with their feet and inches, it's stupid, we europeans should really know better.

>>472214356
If you live in london right now, 7:30PM will be 19:30 UTC+1

>>472214474
>my timezone is UTC+3
>this time is in UTC+1
>I will need to add 2 to the displayed time to convert it
I know this is very difficult to do, especially without a calculator, but I believe in you anon

>>472214614
Why it is necessary in the first place? Answer the question.

>>472214681
Because of how the earth works, people are exposed to the sun at different UTC times

>>472214480
Ok thx

>>472214840
You don't live on a farm. And it's also not consistent, the sun rises everyday at a different time.
Also, we live in the age of the internet, with whole world only 200ms away from you max. It's better to just have one timezone.
Just consider UTC the time of the internet and adjust accordingly. Nothing needs to be changed multiple times per year, everything is consistent, no unnecessary confusion is created. Stop being buckbroken.

>>472215269
Unfortunately people have to deal with this thing called the real world, normies all operate on local times. If everyone agreed to make the switch it would solve so many issues so quickly.

>>472215269
The change would require changing the time in every timezone all at once. You'd need to get billions of people to all get used to waking up at 2am because that's what time the sun rises.

And you swap one problem for another; if I say that I wake up at 1am, you have no fucking idea what time of day that is for me. There's also many business extrapolations of this that will end up making it more difficult; and so I'll have to say even MORE information whenever I say a time. Inter-timezone references are much rarer than intra-timezone references so you're asking to change 99% of time references because of the 1% case because you don't want to add or subtract a number under 12.

>>472215562
Looks like it's time for a new time standard for the web, which is rough location+time.

>>472215653
Yeah you could specify the location someone is at with a little number after the timezone; for example if they were in london under DST you'd say they were "UTC+1"

>>472215562
Just have two clocks:
1. UTC
2. Your local timezone.
You use the UTC when you are on the internet, which allows you to have a common point of reference with everyone else.

>>472215808
Thanks, that is indeed the joke.

>>472215863
>JUST HAVE TWO CLOCKS
You mean like UTC and whatever UTC+- offset you are locally?

>lives in a virtual word as an animegirl
>"BUT WHAT ABOUT THE APPROXIMATE TIME SUN RISES IN MY PARTICULAR SHITHOLE????!!!! ADJUST TO ME!!!!"
And you dare to laugh at americans with their imperial units.

>>472203768
>the default one is that it doesn't have a "Desktop mode"
it doesn't have "mobile mode", for examplae 4chan is displayed in desktop, maybe the "mobile" is just a css feature that can change by resizing the window

>>472216201
I am not living in a virtual world as an anime girl
I am a fleshbag that occasionally presents as an anime girl in a digital representation of a physical space, and am still bound to eating, drinking, and sleeping at regular times, and so are you

>>472216539
Self-centered normalfag. Kill yourself.

>>472212271
Might do in the future however listing in pure UTC requires the user to do math, whereas someone can simply Google "19:30 UTC+1 to local time" and always get the correct answer.
>>472213671
>>472214356
The other anon was right, daylight savings hours for us is BST, which is a UTC+1 time zone

>>472216706
delusional, one step away from correcting someone about your pronouns
I don't need to tell you to do anything, you're already on the path

I think we can all agree daylight savings time serves no useful purpose in the modern world. Literally the only argument I've ever heard in favour of it is 'muh kids walking to school in the dark in polar regions' or some shit. Just move the school hours for a few months if it's that bad.

>>472216825
What an ironic projection coming from a "my timezones are BST/UTC+1" troon.

I'm going to keep using EST. I'm just gonna use it haha

>>472216806
>Might do in the future however listing in pure UTC requires the user to do math, whereas someone can simply Google "19:30 UTC+1 to local time" and always get the correct answer.
They can say just "18:30 UTC to local time". That +1 is only there because picrelated of this thread can't do simple math and trying to force everyone to use their timezone instead.

>>472218060
Anon, all of europe shifted +1 at the same time. It's literally more convenient to shift too because then other euros need to do LESS maths.

How are people here so fucking gay
Literally look up "X time in Y time zone to my time zone"
Actual tranny brainrot
You people are so stupid

>>472218287
>just do these steps for no reason at all!
slave mentality, I bet you use feet and inches.

>>472218153
If everyone has to do math, use UTC+0.
Why the fuck should we use the britnigger timezone? Or let's use UTC+2 then.

>>472218838
WHY ARE YOU THIS BORED

>>472219004
Because this retarded propagation of confusion for no reason every 6 months pisses me. It should be as localized as possible.
Literally just use UTC. It's fucking simple. But paki fags are unable to do math, so we have this stupid fight every time.

just use UTC for everything, its simple
dates in ISO standard too (2024-04-04)

It's always the fuckin' brits

I don't care what timezone we use, I'd just rather not have the problem of the last 5 years where there's always people missing things because they've done the conversion wrong.

>>472220605
The confusion is created because of timezone fuckery.
Always using UTC solves that problem, because it consistent and doesn't change.

>>472216806
Google deals extremely well with 19:30 UTC, but fucks up completely with "19:30 UTC+1"

Posting just "19:30 UTC" is the most simple convertable thing.

>>472163496
cant wait to see ur progress soon

why cant people just use their own timezone instead of utc jesus

>>472222472
Use UTC. Or else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A software engineer gets his wings every time someone seethes about time zones

>>472222472
Ever heard of Tower of Babel myth? Look it up. Now replace languages with timezones.

>>472222704
>>472222727
i will keep using PST

>>472222784
Nobody cares what you do. Jews stole your foreskin, you're not even a human.

>Jews and cocks out of nowhere
Why are euros like this?

I will just keep using GMT, m'kay. This Friday, 7PM GMT, Q3A deathmatch again. To play in VR you will need Quest or Pico and install Q3A port from Sidequest. Only retail Q3A PAKs are needed, no Team Arena.

Server is in Frankfurt, change your autoexec.cfg:
seta server1 "45.147.228.101:27960"
seta password "1488"
And bind "weapon 1" to something for gauntlet duels.

Rotation is The Top Peg. If you don't want to wait for server you can download it here:
https://lvlworld.com/review/id:929

>But I want to be an anime grill in VR!
There's old pack of anime models you can use, grab it here if you want to chii, just drop the files in baseq3 directory:
https://files.catbox.moe/6az4wd.7z

We'll use Mumble for voice, voice.vrg.party as usual, sideload Mumla to your HMD and DISABLE UDP and enable background audio in Quest experimental settings.

New frag movie is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N6iTBCiDGk

If you still have Mumble problems:
Download this sketchy APK and sideload it: https://github.com/threethan/QuestAudioPatcher
Follow the tutorial, select Mumla, allow QAP to uninstall Mumla, then allow it to install the patched Mumla.

>>472226285
>7PM GMT
>using PM as a euro
Stupid furry. But at least the server is in frankfurt now.

Hi, since today is the first Thursday of the month, it's time for the "Monthly Board Game".
As usual, the session will be at 22:30CET/20:30UTC (~3h30 from now)
(You) will have to choose between:
> Hanafuda
The traditional japanese matching card games with a floral theme. (rules: https://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/hanafuda/rule_e.html, world: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_dee398c7-74cf-4a1b-9706-eb638a4bede8)
> Classic card games
We'll just use a classic deck of cards to play various games (Durak, President, Mao, ..) (world: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_85631a72-6265-4fe6-bc3c-2b6ea3e11336)
> Seven Vice
A simple card game themed around the seven deadly sins, and balanced around a lot of RNG (No rules in english online except in-world, world: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_291601c6-0fab-445e-87eb-8313ace0bd72)

VOTE HERE: https://strawpoll.com/xVg7j4keOnr

>>472221707
I prefer filtering people out who can't literally subtract 1 from a number

>>472227313
Says someone who is literally can't add 1 to a number.

>>472227449
Did you get laughed at once for being late because you didn't know how to?

It's impossible to use UTC without that ability, if anything it just show how britbongs are.

A fucking After the Fall update

>>472227634
You are literally pissing and shitting your pants because you can't do math. No special previlage for retards, sorry.
YOU VILL LEARN HOW TO DO MATH AND YOU VILL BE HAPPY

VR games for this feel?

>>472228291

>>472227816
>3 new horde maps and a gun
It's nice to know it's not entirely dead but I doubt this will make it more alive. If there's enough interest we could run few games.

>>472222006
Let's hope they'll also be able to see it.

>>472228291
>cute girls love the blahaj
>girls

>>472222784
based

>>472231570
I hate what they've done to sharks. I've always liked sharks for being brutal but they've been co-opted by people who aren't brutal at all.

CS Showdown release price is 20 bucks.

>>472226285
Quest Pro is getting fixed so I won't be able to join this time. Have fun!
>>472226630
Voted

>>472232265
Are they also adding microtransaction shit or not?
Also, is OG Contractors officially abandoned?

>>472231570
>2011+13
>not being a cute girl
ISHYGDDT

>>472232964
Cosmetics can be purchased with the farmable currency but they'll probably let you buy skins with real shekels too.
>Contractors
It has been in maintenance mode for a while now, anon. They'll keep it running but all content is up to modders now.

>>472194981
Starting soon https://vrch.at/pzhevudj or join on Pengwyn
Spice and Wolf is last so join in an hour or so if you only wanted to watch that

>>472233469
CM just said that the plan is to backport Showdown stuff to Contractors when but I wouldn't be too hopeful about that

>>472233960
not like the cosmetic or even most of the weapon changes will mater to us because we're always playing modded

>>472232148
I don't know about that. Cutting your dick off is pretty brutal

>>472212095
live NOW!!!!
i'm going to eat all the snacks if you're too late
https://vrch.at/9mnbybq5

>>472236853
nice cheese tray

>>472237184
ur missing out bro

>>472237441
just let me piss first I'm getting on

how is saints and sinners 2?
im doing the post game for 1 atm and all the resources they shower you in is kind of taking me out of it

>>472238280
You'll have use for them in 2.
2 is really more of the same, it's more expansion than a second game. Pretty fun, but even more linear, barely any at all sidequests.

>>472232265
Not playing that aim-assisted garbage even for free.

>>472186846
id like to see this too

>>472241828
>>472186846
https://files.catbox.moe/cjhddh.webm

>>472242872
Why are you like this?

>>472242872
Uoh that's not what he asked for

>>472233707
Thank you for hosting!

>>472239825
I played 1 and then 2 without importing my save and they give you a ton of free stuff at the beginning. Never felt like I had to grind or anything.
The best perk of grinding 1 before importing to 2 is unlocking the crafting bench trees I guess.

>>472233707
>>472247958
Thanks for coming. Same time next week for more Dungeon Meshi, Spice and Wolf and whatever else I decide to throw on

>>472226630
Board game instance up https://vrch.at/bbrh88ee
we playing seven vice

i bought a used quest 2 to upgrade from a cv1 but it wasn't working in steamvr for some reason
the controls should've been the same but it wasn't opening up the dashboard
i checked the settings and this shit was disabled. i spent at least 10 minutes staring at nothing pressing buttons when i could've just tried to do something to fix it.

>>472202920
why does steamvr not give you an option to view your desktop in fucking SBS

also the new steamVR update fucked up how you used to be able to ajust the volume with a single trigger press and moving left or right, now you have to click, click again then move left or right, it feels like a downgrade for this reason alone if not for them FINALLY letting the menu pop up in front of you with variability on the vertical axis instead of being stuck on a horizontal plane

I'm new to vr (bought quest 3) a month ago and I tried to play hl 2 mod on my old pc (GTX 1070) using ALVR since I'm on linux, however the frame rate sucks which is a shame since I wanted to play other pcvr games :(

Good evening Anon,

Walkabout Minigolf will happen tonight at 11:30 EDT (That is in 5 hours)
I hope to see you there.

>>472246583
this is easy to do when everyone uses the same booth model

>>472265386
>1070
>Q3
>nVidia on Linux
Save yourself the trouble, 1070 can't drive native resolution of Q3 in any acceptable way, much less when paired with the garbage drivers. With 1070 you're limited to graphically simple games or downsampling. Might be better to just play some standalone stuff.

>>472242872
You got my hopes up. I've been trying to find that Nia dancing webm all day and night and haven't had any luck.

>>472266484
Just go through "play vrchat" threads from v. I remember seeing it quite often there.

>>472251159
doro, pride
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAT6TnsX0Bg
very mediocre outside of Yugi RP

>>472267698
doro, pride cardo
doro, pride cardo
doro, sloth cardo (pride)
doro, sloth cardo (pride)

>>472266484
Do you mean this one with the shitty recolour?

>>472268247
Yeah, that's the one. Thanks!

The cunny webm was better.

>>472268482
nah pedo

The cunny webm was definitely better. By a lot.
If you disagree, you are reddit and should go back.

>>472268482
Post it, then.

>>472269073
Just scroll up, janny is slacking today.

tfw no cunny gf

Homeworld is getting a VR game
https://youtu.be/y_RJdWtWw_E?si=SXV6CcLgIlFvupTd

Quest bros?

>>472269324
Homeworld is the one strategy game that would actually benefit from VR
this looks bare af though, i don't have high hopes for it

>>472269324
>quest only
PCVR bros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyyL_TICbrU

>>472266339
He should be able to play it just fine at Index resolutions, barring any weird Linux driver issues, given that I played HL2VR on my Index with plenty of frames.

>>472269324
this is cool, kinda gives me Battlegroup VR vibes.
I hope it has enough content, maybe a procedual campaign

Any interest in trying Hyper Dash again tomorrow? I know a few people said they missed it last time around and wanted to play.
If not, might just do Lethal Company again.

>>472274338
I wish vrpfs na stuff could happen on Wednesday, hell even Thursdays. I can't go unless you guys start hosting stuff before 9pm EST. I've been trying to offhandily poke the Contractors host to try it since it's been a good 3? years since SEA/EU tried it for a while but no luck so far.

>>472277030
Dude I think someone stole your dress

>>472275424
I can't really do Wednesday because of Assetto.
I wouldn't necessarily have a problem trying to run something on Thursday occasionally, but I still wouldn't want to start before 9 ET. Hard to get some NAs to show up any earlier because of timezones.

>>472191802
very punch-able rabbit

>>472279217
Eeeehhh What's up doc?

>>472278960
I think I worded it wrong, times aren't a problem for earlier on the week just Friday in particular. Not much you can do about it either way though.

>>472280425
>Not much you can do about it
I can try running something on Thursday sometime if times aren't a problem.
If there was something I thought we could get a decent turnout for with basically zero notice, I'd try something tonight.

>>472279809
I want to hear him say "Eehhh what's up cock" before blowing me

>>472275424
host it yourself retard

>>472281797
wrong thread

Cycling hour starting at 9pm ET (very soon)!
https://vrch.at/qkh0t0ce

FYI the bikes need FBT and some sort of pedaling equipment

>>472281987
It's always the correct thread for bullying L

>>472274338
Sure, is there any tutorial bullshit I need to do before then or can I boot up the game for the first time and drop in?

>>472275424
Thursday is the most stacked day of the week for games, Tuesday or Monday would work if you don't lose too many people to trash meets.

why can't it be friday night already bros

>It's like I'm actually Japanese!

>>472284127
There's a short tutorial that'd probably help to do, but you can skip it.
>Thursday is the most stacked day of the week
Thursday used to be pretty busy, but there's really just Walkabout and VRC cycling now, at least for NA.

>>472274338
id be down for this, count another +1

>>472287951
Does wagie meet and wagie games no longer happen? I haven't seen them posted in a while, but I assumed they either were just on hiatus or had moved to a Discord

>>472288178
NA Wagie thursday meet is dead and buried for the 3rd time or so, but it had a good run. EU I feel isn't too far behind, wasn't much on today.

>>472288178
That early NA VRC meet died a long time ago, and as far as I know, the early Walkabout lobbies are dead too. Rhythm games happen occasionally on Thursdays, but it's been a while since those happened regularly.

Are you pulling up to the pypy rizz party?

>>472289683
I YEARN TO REDEEM MY PYPY POINTS

Still waiting for the updated rewards list.

it's time for pypy dance! For those that don't know, at pypy we dance along with just dance style videos. It's fun!

the link: https://vrch.at/kvsc82ys
or join on yuru

I just got this router for its 6E capabilities and wow, PCVR with the Quest 3 now is like night and day compared to my old router. Before, I’d often experience stuttering during peak hours even when I was right next to my router because I live in a cuckbox apartment where everyone and their dog is shouting into the 5GHz band. 6GHz, however, is still basically empty at this point, especially with the average normie who only uses the router provided by their ISP. I get buttery smooth, almost latency free performance at godly settings and max bitrate in Virtual Desktop, even when the headset is in a different room from the computer.

>>472290847
Ok but what does this have to do with pypy?

>>472282274

>>472291576
Yuru is looking good and buttery smooth

>>472290847
Would there be any improvement to got from 6 to 6E?

>>472290303
>it's time for pypy dance!

>>472289683
yuru is limiting my pypy resting heartrate below 90 this is so sad

>>472293925
it's 86 rn im so close to busting

>>472284127
>>472287985
Guess I'll try hosting again and make sure to bug the people who said they missed it last time.

Trying Hyper Dash again tomorrow night at 9PM EDT (a little over 22 hours from now).
It's free to play, so drop by and give it a shot.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1386890/Hyper_Dash/

>>472293925
>>472294295

>>472293627
lookin' good yuru!

>>472293627
I'm dying to know the lore behind the pic. Someone get my nigga Whang on speed dial so we can get to the bottom of this mystery

>>472297509
yuru dmed the selfie to someone here and they leaked it

>>472298707
big if true

>>472298821
eh, looks below average

>>472266046
lobby is up
room code:VRG

>>472287736
Based Weeb

>>472286462
>Australia would like a word

>>472299224
not fully hard cuz of all the hrt

thanks to everyone who came to pypy! see you again monday at 10 EST

>>472303346
>thanks to everyone who came to pypy!

>>472303346
>one loli is etna (super lewd)
>the other is a bunny where the suit is loose and falling off (very lewd)
you should take away their pypy points lolis should not be lewd, or scold them

>>472290847
>virtual desktop
Homie please try steamlink.

>>472304515
Inferior in every way

Yuru was being ableist at pypy today. As someone with tachycardia, I was offended.

>>472303909
lookin' good yuru!

>>472303346
Next weeks going to be the week I finally return to pypy! I mean it this time!

>>472274338
Man, I missed that game.

just got my pico4

what now

>>472306461
return it and buy the quest 3

>>472306860
cant, i bought used.

>>472306461
I think that you'll really enjoy playing games and watching movies on your Pico 4! This headset is very satisfying.

>>472307763
isn't the company dead now?

>>472308690

>>472304940

>>472306329
Were you planning on showing up? After asking around it kinda looked like we probably won't have enough this time around, so I was thinking about just pushing it back and running something else tomorrow.

>>472309014
Well why didn't you help him out?

>>472308941
company is still not doing well. they canceled their next headset and had major layoffs. The headset is fine but don't expect long term support.

>>472309685
he didn't have enough pypy points

>>472309689
i mean so long as they don't end up remotely bricked i can still connect it to steam right?

>>472299404
Good golfing, mysterious poster who didn't show up despite announcing the event.

Sorry if we scared away the newfriend.

When did yuru go lewd?

>>472309931
When he starts falling off he gets more lewd. If we just all collectively ignored him then he would get more lewd for attention.

>>472309931
>he hasnt seen the yuru JOI video yet

>>472309860
>announce golf event at random time
>set a lobby name and room code that everyone knows
>step back and watch the fun

>>472309931
If you're the last one to leave the instance you can ask Yuru to redeem your pypy points beneath the bleachers.

>>472303957
god bless

>>472312449
that jesus is fake he has the wrong color scheme you're not fooling anyone

>>472309860
maybe a controversial opinion but
>hey anon, can you replay that shot so I can reproduce it
this takes the soul out of gameplay
>>472312004
>trick anons into playing vr games
devilish

>>472309860
Was fun thanks guys

>>472284127
>>472287985
>>472295086
Unfortunately, after asking around it doesn't sound like many people can make it tonight, and I don't want to risk the lobby dying in 20 minutes again.
I'll try to run Hyper Dash another time with a bit more advance notice.

New plan is to run the Lethal Company VR mod at 9PM EDT instead. Modlist should be pretty similar to last time, I'll post it in the thread once I have a chance to get it tested and post the code to join when the lobby is up.

>>472265386
It's time to:
Switch to windows
Upgrade your PC

>>472288178
>getting on before 2AM
>getting on sober
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>472297509
It's literally just some random picture

>>472313238
its a testament of your skill to reproduce another persons shot perfectly

just waiting for the chink battery holders to arrive
question for anons with slimes, what's the limit for VRC? From what I could gather it's 8 but it's a bit weird, slime thighs and ankles combine into knees in VRC, while ankles with knee extensions count as feet
so slimes chest - waist+hip + arms x2 - thighs x2 + ankles+feet x2 would get translated to chest - hip - elbows 2x - knees x2 - feet x2 in VRC
am getting this right

>>472318920
Seeing a good shot is the same effect as just knowing the meta for the course. There's two main skills to golf; and that's the technical skill of putting the ball where you want, and then there's knowing where to put the ball. Knowing where to put the ball can come from experience with the hole, and so levelling out experience evens the playing field.

What is the cheapest headset to watch Iwara shit in phone?

>>472328607
In phone?
The cheapest headset I'd recommend is a quest 2.

>>472329657
wrong thread sir

>>472329657
What game is this? That new furry social one?

>>472329657
Lookin' Good, Yuru.

>>472306461
>>472331180
https://steamdb.info/app/2519830/
How have you not figured this out yet

asian here, how do i cope with nose pads being (almost) useless

>>472333937
Get MR style interface like the one on QPro, done.

Forbidden Image: Do NOT Open

>>472335107
>>472335227
retard

>>472335363

>>472335227
kek. Should have made him a kemono instead of a western furry.

>>472335607
I don't really know the difference.

>>472335852
There isn't one

>>472337258
mommy if he dog

>>472320737
there are youtube vids using vive trackers with 11 point tracking (headset, 2x controllers, 2x feet, 2x knees, 2x elbows, 1 hip, 1 chest)

>>472309860
>Good golfing, mysterious poster who didn't show up despite announcing the event.
I randomly puked my lunch and dinner 2 hours after making the post and passed out.

Back with my periodical inspection of /vrg/. Yep, still all vrchat and still no separate thread. Absolute state of vr and /vg/.

>>472339221
No-one is impressed that you missed the vr games, fuck off.

>>472339221
But there is a separate thread.

don't know if I like this design so far, open to thoughts frens

>>472341005
forgot pic

>>472341161
i am stupid thank you

>>472341210
Body looks too low detail compared to the face

>>472341210
dis nigga getting to 99 mining

>>472341324
yeah it's still in blockout stage, trying to get an idea of a design down first, the neck isn't connected to the head yet for instance

>>472339593
Kooshi don't do it!

>>472341161
I still have that dorm, unchanged for the past 4 years
Also this is not the thread

We're continuing tonight with episodes 5 and 6 of the 3 Body Problem tonight at 7:30pm EST or in about 10 hours and 30 from this post

>>472339221
>Literally the OP
Do you just come here to complain about whatever is in your head?

I lost

>>472344957
Man I want to play this more in multiplayer but they need to put some kind of handicap system. All my buddies suck at the game and I suck in comparison to the people playing online.

>>472346265
Beat Saber allows each player in the lobby to select their own difficulty.

>>472346393
Yeah but that ain't beat saber

Weekly Bar Crawl #10 "Bar Milestone X" Edition

A weekly hang where every friday, a new bar (or bar related, or map with a large bar), no repeats. ever. Starting 9 PM EST for normal humans.

This week in news, we made it 10 weeks in a row. Thats almost a third of a year. We are going to a barn probably. Its wet out but warm enough for the weather.

Place to hang out and unload. Only requirement is to show up (sober or awake being optional).

Join instructions when event starts.

This weeks map: a boomer or a country bar

Why a simple webcam to pose full body tracking is so underexplored?
We are literally throwing AI at everything these days, it's kind of weird nobody tried to seriously solve the FBT problem with it.

>>472349638
You mean kinect tracking?
It sucks

>>472349638
kinect fbt has been a thing for years, its not great

>>472349638
Because its shit, too slow and inaccurate

>>472349696
>>472349745
>>472349752
Not kinect, neural networks with a simple webcam.
I believe it's only shit because we are using 10+ year old software.

And it's not that hard to create the perfect environment for it. Stationary camera with IR filter removed, plus IR flood light.
I bet the people would be willing to wear a qrcode tshirt even.
The problem really seems solvable, but nobody is trying. At the very least things like tranny slimes should be beatable 100%.

>>472350328
You can get near perfect tracking with several Kinects that cover enough angles. But just like basestations, turns out most people don't want to attach shit to their walls and have cables all over the place to twerk in VR.

>>472349967
still too slow to run in realtime on top of other software

>>472351390
A single cam should be enough. Kinect is too high latency.
Look at this shit for example, I don't know how well it performs, but it's only 3mb and only takes 1ms on a fucking phone.
Make the model 100mb and let it run on a proper desktop GPU, and you should be able to get close to perfect body tracking.
We already have diy eyetracking kits sending low latency camera feed to PC, it can be easily repurposed.

>>472351928
I don't believe it's a fundamental limitation. It's 1ms on a phone.
Zucc must run something similar on Q3 for pose estimation, but their problem is much harder, a stationary camera should make it a lot easier.

>>472351390
Kinect uses tonnes of USB bandwith, and cpu.

Camera only tracking is slow - at most at camera fps. Depth estimation is horrible. AI skeletonization is not stable, its not accurate, especially in Z axis. It doesnt properly track rotations. It only looks good as a skelleton overlay on top of low resolution video. Additionally you need to calibrate the camera fov/distortion and align the tracking spaces, which is not trivial.

Nevertheless HTC seems to be trying to use singular Vive Ultimate Tracker to do FBT. The camera calibration is already known, and location of the camera is known in the relation of VR headset. They had a twitter post about it, but I cant find it.

>>472349967
Oculus were working on that a few years ago. I think it just turned into the body tracking capabilities of whatever Quest headset does that.

>>472350328
There was a webcam based FBT that used QR codes stuck all over the body. It sucked and the QR codes are only slightly more convenient than tranny tracker straps.
Meta are probably the most capable of creating a decent single station camera + depth sensor FBT. They had a version of their pose estimation that covered the full body if the room had a large mirror, if they can do that from a moving headset they can do it from a stationary box.

LOOK AT THIS SHIT
RUNS ON A FUCKING PHONE

>>472353485
>you can see how inacurate it is even on this video.

It is extremely jarring, when your hip or hand starts to gyrate or spazz out

Actually, it should be quite easy to make a quick demo.

Use a webcam, https://github.com/google/mediapipe to recognize body and then send hips/feet as OSC trackers https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/osc-trackers

VRChat has minimal aligment of free-floating tracker data, assuming it's on a person. The only limitation is that you should send tracker data in meters.

Now I'm convinced that we don't have it only because nobody bothered to implement it.

>>472353840
The video is the stress test. And you going to use it together with traditional "perfectly tracked" HMD and controllers anyway. And that's the general model, it can easily be refined and made more accurate if you fit it for the actual environment. People could even be able to create equivalent of LoRA's for their particular room if they are willing to train locally.

>>472350328
Don't know what they use in the Quest 3 but the hand tracking and upper body tracking is really good for what it is. Finger tracking latency is more than good enough.
I really could see the tech used with external cameras mounted to the 4 corners of a room to keep an accurate representation of your skeleton without having to strap trackers on.

>>472353485
what's the proof that some guy in video editing software didnt just keyframe the skeleton in afterwards and this is all bullshit?

>>472355945
because it's freely available as mediapipe framework and it spazzes out if you look closely

Protip: the depth of these tracking points is all wack

The bandwidth requirement is miniscule. 256x256x3 times Camera refreshrate.
You can downscale on device and send only the result. The eyetracking dyi does that already basically, not sure about downscaling though, so it might be even easier in our case.


>>472355945
The models are available. Theoretically we should be able to just test it.

>>472356204
>Protip: the depth of these tracking points is all wack
Solvable even with the standard model. Use multiple cameras and then "inverse the projection" for lack of a better term.

>>472356580
>Use multiple cameras and then "inverse the projection" for lack of a better term.
Yep, a simple ray intersect from the camera views gets you the position if depth is incorrect but everything else is fine.

>>472356580
>>472356984

>>472356580
>The bandwidth requirement is miniscule. 256x256x3 times Camera refreshrate.

You will not get any good tracking accuracy at that resolution lol

>>472357451
That's literally the input of the model.

>>472357834
well, that's your answer why it's not used in VR then

>>472357876
If you don't know how things work, just don't talk. Save people from experiencing a second hand embarrassment.

>>472358037
>he thinks he knows better

>>472358037
I'm gonna try to make a media pipe to OSC tracker minimal prototype next week if I'm not too lazy just for fun.

>>472358037
Cool, kid. You're smart, so why don't you whip up a quick PoC and show us how much better it is. I mean you're the one who knows it all, so why not show us how it's done.

In the meantime, shut the fuck up.

>>472354380
>we don't have it only because nobody bothered to implement it.
https://github.com/ju1ce/Mediapipe-VR-Fullbody-Tracking

>>472359009
Dismissing something only because of superstitious reasons like "THE NUMBER IS NOT HIGH ENOUGH" just shows how little you know.
People like you are reason marketers keep increasing numbers everywhere.
And how 256x256 is "too little" I don't even know. A person can easily figure out (heh) a pose with just a 128x128 image.

>>472359095
Any demos?

>>472359095
>https://github.com/ju1ce/Mediapipe-VR-Fullbody-Tracking
oh, so I don't have to make anything. Test it and record how it works then.

A second camera feed is a must.

>>472359523
Are you actually for real claiming that resolution doesn't matter for tracking

>>472360771
>>472359523
Hurry up with your essay I need a nap

>>472360771
256x256 is lot of data.
And the model works, at least somewhat, so I'm inclined to believe that it might be enough.
Theoretically, increasing the camera feed resolution should help, but at some point you will start hitting diminishing returns. I don't know where that point is exactly, neither do you, but I don't think it's that high personally.

>>472361286
>>256x256 is lot of data.
No, it's not. Especially for not having depth data. You're going to get lots of jitter where the image processing tries to guess where your joints are. It may not be noticeable in that 256x256 image at 1:1 scale but it's sure as fuck going to be noticeable at life-sized scales in VR. Even small amounts of tracker jitter can cause issues.

>>472361661
>Especially for not having depth data
I just explained to you how to solve it. It's a trivial problem with 2 camera feeds. A simple ray intersect check and you get the point in 3d.
The model is lightweight enough to run inference twice, especially when everything is already in memory.

And the bar is not that high, just beating tranny slimes would already be a win. And that's doable imo.

What's the best replacement face gasket for Index? Mine is falling apart and I thought maybe those other designs on Amazon might be better.

>>472362038
> tranny slimes
Oh you're that guy
Well you have fun with your little project kid, I'm sure you'll show us all. Night.

>>472362131
probably just another official index face gasket. they always fall apart but the fabric is nice and comfy.

>>472362161
Did you just get offended? I'm sorry. You will be a real woman someday.
And who is that guy? I saw a lot of people calling it that.

beep bop

>>472367810
rude! I was sleeping at page 10

The drum magazine on the pump shotgun doesn't visually deplete and the repater rifle does the cranking automatically, kinda eh update for ATF
Haven't checked out the new horde maps yet

>>472226285
quack

>>472369293
1900 GMT/UTC = 2000 BST = 2100 CEST

>>472370490
I know
I just finished setting it up and I remember how much I love quack

this got a bit twinky, need to beef up the proportions

>>472370772
>Load into lobby
>Hear ‘those’ voices
Is VRchat a safe space for the groomers to congregate?

>>472371013
VR games?

>>472370772
bro he's not even posting here today chill

EU sign language meet is up! Back to timezones making since since eu finally entered daylight savings
https://vrch.at/rg6us4u0

here for my monthly deckard check

>>472374208
no deckards only retards

>>472374208
Valve just dropped a pre-announcement yesterday that something big is coming in two weeks.

472329657
what game and why is there so much extra stuff above the nametag?

>>472349638
>>472353485
>>472355945
>>472356580
I've done a decent amount of work on optical pose tracking, including with mediapipe so I'll chime in here. A major challenge with using these models for VR tracking is essentially consistency. If you take any single frame of a video with a 2d pose tracking model applied to it, you'd get an output that makes you think "hey, that's pretty good. All of the keypoints are on the right body part." But compare that to another set of frames from a slightly different angle. Sure, the evaluated keypoint is still on the wrist. But is it on the same part of the wrist? Or is it a few cm away from where it was?

VR, by its nature, has very demanding requirements for precision and consistency, and deviations are extremely noticeable. Post-processing smoothing can be applied, which mitigates some of the jitter issues at the cost of latency, but ultimately does not really address the root issue. Alternatively, a user-side smoothing effect can be implemented by applying several shots of vodka to the evaluator.

>>472362038
>A simple ray intersect check and you get the point in 3d
This is indeed very simple if you assume that you have two views which will reliably be able to independently point to the same location in space as each other. This is unfortunately not the case. Body parts are not a uniform sphere which appear the same from every angle and can easily have a centerpoint identified. Basically, views from different angles will almost never actually be able to get 2d points which correspond to the same 3d point. This makes getting a 3d point from simple ray projection very unreliable. There are some more sophisticated approaches to the problem, but they are ultimately not full solutions.

If you're interested in reading more, a good survey and review paper was recently published covering the current state of the art: https://www.mdpi.com/2313-433X/9/12/275

I'd be happy to talk more with other anons interested these things.

>>472312449
adorable

>>472373812
>he
Please don't call mommy a he. That is very rude.

>>472314583
Here's the Lethal Company modlist code for anyone that wants to go ahead and load it:
018eaf7f-dda4-66c4-e8ed-0bf5a7e100d0
You set up mods by importing them with r2modman, which you can get here:
https://github.com/ebkr/r2modmanPlus/releases

Going to watch chris-chan documentary tonight in vrchat, probably around 10 or 11 pm eastern. I'll post the instance link later

>>472375674
>This is indeed very simple if you assume that you have two views which will reliably be able to independently point to the same location in space as each other. This is unfortunately not the case.
I've realized that after thinking more about it in the meantime. But do we really need precise points even?
Maybe just an additional source of plausible input for IK is enough.
We have a pretty specific problem here, by limiting the scope we might be able to solve it. We do have 3 points of input that we can trust with HMD and controllers.

I will definitely take a look at the survey.
Has anyone tried feeding multiple feeds to the neural network and training it like that btw? And what about computer generated source of training data (3dcg basically), does it work?

>>472377067
>austic furry tranny age 30+
he would fit in great with vrc players

>>472226285
>>472370708
Quack in 10 minutes.

>>472377067
How long is it

>>472377417
>>472375674
We literally have the perfect environment for multiview here. It's hard to ask for more.
1 person, in highly controlled environment, with 3 external points of reference.
And it shouldn't even be that expensive, esp32-cam's are dirt cheap.
The only issue that we would need to train the model ourselves.

>>472360125
yeaaa, kinect issues

>>472381618
>>472377417
https://vxtwitter.com/Lunayian/status/1771223291874734359 finally found it.

https://twitter.com/htcvive/status/1770256494065308116

But you can see the latency...

HTC is working on it it seems. VUT have a calibrated stereocamera, VUT knows where it is in relation to the HMD.

>>472384156
>latency
Might be exaggerated by the garbage TV. Compare the feed between laptop and the TV at 0:09-0:10. You can see the arm is behind by 2+ frames.
Have to wonder how much latency comes from smoothing and how low can you actually get with perfect hardware.

>>472385308
Well, the model most likely runs in 1-2 ms. But, most definitely to get useable results you need smoothing. SO you have a trade-off between latency and spazziness.

>>472379137
Server eating shit, it's doomed. Thanks for coming anyway, ggs.

>>472385895
But how many frames do you actually need for it?
Right now it looks something like 200ms latency. Assuming 60hz camera (low bar honestly), that's 10+ frames of smoothing. That's just too much.

>>472379137
>>472226285
Shame about the lag today, and playing a couple maps twice due to the server restart. Good game all around hopefully it's fixed in two weeks.

>>472374138
Great signing, Be sure to remember how to sign australia the way that makes it clear its an island bunch of convicts got dumped onto

>>472387219
There was definitely something fucky going on with the VPS host tonight, I will demand my 1 dollar for this week's expenses back.

>>472387539
>chain
CHAIN GAAAAAAAANG
heh

The Golfy That That is better than the Marshall That That.

>>472387539
>ASL lesson
>EU meet
am i missing something?

>>472388587
the host knows ASL and americaa has won the total cultural victory
europe has even started mass importing niggers like the US does!

>>472388587
ASL is the sign lingua franca of VRChat

>>472389509
Age Sex Location???

>>472389763
American Sign Language

>>472388503
mylee > marshall > golfy

>>472390376
Ya-ya-ee, ya-ya-ee, ya-ya-ee, ya-ya-ee
Blame it on my juice, blame it, blame it on my juice

>>472388587
I know American sign language, and functionally every person who learns sign language in vr learns the vr form of american sign language, so it's the default in vrchat, the most useful one for vr. Plus some countries have such poor online learning resources for their own sign language that many people even irl learn asl instead, finland is a good example of this. So it's not even a totally vr thing for europeans to learn american sign language

>>472390376
>mylee
twerking to high-pitched kpop ching chong is not dancing

Why the fuck would you waste your time with ASL
No one that is actually deaf is worth talking to

>>472391205
>he doesnt know

>>472390969
>bin lan
oh wow, i always assumed we would've had state provided good sign language resources, but nope, even the association for deaf people has barebones stuff at most

>vrchat sponsoring anime
what the FUCK

>>472391867
>Chillout
We out here

>>472391867
>chillout

>>472391205
well of course deaf people arent worth talking to, they can't hear you retard

>>472391867
WHAT
What anime is this?

>>472391867
What anime? trace.moe didn't work

>>472391774
It's accessible offline through programs you have to qualify for, but plenty of people dont qualify and so turn to online asl resources instead. It's really weird

>>472392778
>>472392756
Highspeed Etoile

>>472392935
I cant even

Just a reminder, the VRChat team doesn't give a fuck what you think about the Merlin case, and this constant bitching and venting in the thread is doing nothing but taking up the post count with useless nonsense nobody here gives a fuck about either.

VR content btw

>>472393434
+1, no contribution.

>>472391019
Twerking sucks i just stop dancing whenever there's twerking and resume when the part is over.

FUCK twerking.

>>472393434
Has anyone even mentioned it at all in the past few hours?

>>472393434
>venting in the thread is doing nothing but taking up the post count
you mean keeping the thread, that hits page 9 several times a day, bumped?
please post about merlin
especially between the hours of 2 AM EST and 9 AM EST

>>472393682
>a few hours
what a respectable goalpost
I kneel

>>472393862
I don't speak amerinigger. What's that in UTC?

>>472393682
Last time he was mentioned was literally 40+ hours ago. Don't reply to the schizo.

>>472391019
Twerking is hot I get so hard whenever there's twerking and it's hard to concentrate when the part is over

I LOVE twerking

I hate twerking and I hate niggers.
Fuck off, retards.

>>472391867
strange times

>>472393434
Yes bote, we know you fellate every VRChat dev you can suck off and have been for years, you don't have to remind us.
Not only that you're like two days late to the discussion.

>>472393434
>filename
I knew this had to be a falseflag
I sincerely fucking hope it's a falseflag

>>472393434
Excuse you, Bote. We do care. Our leader of /vrg/ himself made an official statement on Twitter. He’s very important and the devs do care about him because he runs one of their biggest communities.

>>472348807
>or awake being optional).
thanks for being considerate

>>472398194

>>472391867
Damn, it's not actually for Chimpout. That's still funny though that they put them together on the same car.
Apparently this anime has like a trillion sponsors, and is also garbage.

>>472400812
it's not real sponsorships, really, it's just fillers for the car teams

lets write a letter to the world owner /vrg/, one word at a time. ill start.
>Dear

p-progress

>>472401673
nigger

>>472402058
Good work, keep going.

>>472390376
my takes, marshal > mylee > golfy

marshal is just a solid choice 95% of the time. wide range without much move spam. his hand holding makes it easy to learn the dance. I would put TML up there with marshal even though they seem to have like 20 moves total in their playbook, it makes them easy to learn even if they are somewhat intense.

mylee is fun because she does lots of high intensity stuff without being move spam but thats also her downfall for me since she will throw in some try hard, on-the-floor twerking session or shuffling or some other shit thats not fun in VR (but is fun to watch other people try).

golfy has come a long way in his newer stuff, imo. they are fun to dance to while not being spammy. His older stuff tends to be more showy, fag-sexy, kpop choreography. stuff made to look good for music videos (also uncomfortable because he looks 12 in his old videos).

I would put most of the kawaii jp dancers in the move spam category where you just do what you can keep up, and its a good workout but you dont really learn anything unless you do it a hundred times.

tml clones are decent but mostly just worse versions of tml

just dance is too varied to place, but usually a solid choice.

>>472401551
>Bridget outfit is 1000 JPY more
They know their target audience

>>472402275
deckard

I like marshall because of his giga faggot comments and storytelling :3

>>472405821
so trve

>>472406908
>right is a 3 point at pypy

>>472377067
>>472379397
Curious which one, the 90vid one or the Turkey Tom one?

>>472403619
Fortnite

>>472371013
Hey looks like an mmo character down to the starting novice adventurer gear

>>472409965
Please

>>472409979
that's kinda what I'm going for, thanks!

>>472399129
what a fag

>>472342632
Starting in about 30 mins!

i am so kawii X3333333
le prettyest anome girl omggg xd
so kawai but I AM NOT GAY

>>472314583
>>472376708
Just a reminder, we're playing the Lethal Company VR mod in two hours. Make sure your mods are working.

>>472410065
please

>>472413301
DON'T post that video

>>472408829
Turkey Tom

>>472413637
my nigga tom, ill be there

>>472413301
PLEASE

Instance for episode 5 and 6 of 3 body problem is up! Click the link or join off sergster

https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_78fd013d-09c9-4269-9b8d-f22939d7b6df&instanceId=42240~hidden(usr_71708dff-2a5e-457a-9d36-974cf5b2beab)~region(use)&shortName=rgauntwh

>>472414291
yes

>>472393862
>especially between the hours of 2 AM EST and 9 AM EST
We should just pay 'jeets to post during that time.

>>472414780
we swapped instances gomen
https://vrchat.com/home/launch?worldId=wrld_0777ec10-c871-4e2f-91cc-1c43287eb16c&instanceId=71646~hidden(usr_71708dff-2a5e-457a-9d36-974cf5b2beab)~region(use)&shortName=wn2rmahn

golfy is the best dancer

>>472422162
me over left

>>472412075
this but unironically

>>472422162
Need to grab L's tail again.

>>472422162
Why do so many of them have tails
is this furry?

Lobby is up for Lethal Company VR, starting in a few minutes. Since we're using Ship Company, you won't be able to join unless we're in space, if you can't get in, just reply and we can wait in space for you. Going to wait around a bit for people to hop in before starting.
Mod code is: 018eaf7f-dda4-66c4-e8ed-0bf5a7e100d0
Lobby code is: 109775244919583913

>>472423614
They are cat girls. Its an anime thing

>>472422162
he's not

https://vrch.at/wrld_29e11a89-755b-4011-bda3-cc62a8161c9a
mahjong time

>>472426941
add sanma

>>472429284
I tried to contact tilegun creators directly once upon a time to get their prefab, they politely refused. Sanma is terrible anyway, I would not wish the worst of my enemies sanma.

>>472429861
okay fag
*yamumans you at east 2*

>>472424764
I don't usually like "horror games" and I'm not sure whether Lethal Copany would be my thing or not but it seems to be one of very few games that actually gets hosted here
Should I buy?

>>472430453
There's some horror stuff, but it's not much of a horror game the way we play it.
I can't really promise it'll get hosted consistently going forward, but it is pretty cheap, so you could always pick it up next time it gets hosted if you're still interested then. We're still going too, so you could always pick it up and refund if you don't like it.

Is it time to do summer outfits yet?

Toilet-chan. Bed. NOW

>>472433316
nooooo

>>472377067
>>472408829
https://vrch.at/3pr94z6u
instance is up, will start in like 10 minutes or something

>>472379397
sorry, didn't see this post earlier. It's 3 hours long, which I only just realized. Small chance that we might not finish the whole thing tonight, we'll see.

>>472433749
https://vrch.at/07up5beh
had to restart and make a new link, apparently the website-made instances don't work at the moment

What happened to the pedophile Friday bar crawl? Drama has been way too low lately and there’s always funny drama from the pedo crawls

https://streamable.com/tutfgt
Hows it popin on the weekend?

>>472430453
we had 1-2 weekly lobbies when the vr mod first was released, it's very dead now

>>472424764
Great gamin yall, each of you were an amazing asset

>>472424764
Thanks for coming everyone too bad about losing our jobs

>>472426941
2 tables 3/4, come drink, cheers kippi kanpai to total tranny death

Are prescription lens inserts from aliexpress legit? They'd end up being like $40 cheaper than anywhere else.

>>472433016
it's barely spring

so how many polygons is too many for a model?
im working on something and curious what other people think in regards to how many polygons is acceptable for medium sized instances(like around 30 at most)

>>472440109
no one cares but if you are over 70k you will be robot for most people in a big instance

>>472303957
It is defective and it is too late to get a refund.

>>472440109
Most people don't care and have only the closest avatars shown, no one would bother checking your avatar stats. Just make a good looking one and try to optimize it as much as you can

You will end up as a robot with anybody you not talking in the moment anyway

>>472433016
already been done since my room is a literal sauna all year around. Might add crispy farmer's tanlines on pale skin because that's my fetish though

>>472439742
whatever it's $20 I'll let you know in a few weeks

is there a mega folder somewhere with Velle assetts?

>>472433749
>>472436924
we watched about an hour of it, might continue next week or something. Thanks for coming frens

Is there a surefire way to not get disconnected from VRChat worlds a few times a day? Like graphic/avatar settings.
My rig is above average and my internet speed is fine. I just want to jump worlds and hang around with people so I don't feel lonely.

>>472451074
Sorry anon that sounds like an internet problem
Contact your ISP

got quest 2 today and enjoyed it alot.

Loved feeling transported to a whole 'nother world, loved playing space channel 5, loved playing vrchat with my friends. What a boost to the quality of life.

>>472455449
Based cute doggo. I hope you have a lot more fun in the virtual world.
With new folks like you I am sure we're going to a good place of fun and enjoyee

thanks i hate it

why do you pretend to hate trans people when 80% of /vrg/ is trans

>>472460001
just because I use a female avatar doesn't mean I want to chop my penis off

Whuh-oh, blogpost
I've owned a quest 2 for a while now and I think VR is cool. At the same time I mostly only use it for sim driving practice these days just in case I can ever afford a track car
But like, have things gotten better? Beat saber and superhot are still cool as hell, but they're also ancient. I played cooking simulator for all of 40 minutes before I couldn't deal with the lack of feedback for the knife. Obviously not much can be done to fix that, but a lot of stuff feels more like tech demos than games at times (to me)
I think fps games would be cool if I could actually whip my head around to look, but you know, heavy. Bigscreen seems to have a really cool solution regarding that but I dunno if it's worth the upgrade cost considering my current uses
There's other games I wanna try out like NMS but I'm starting to wonder if VR just isn't for me, or maybe I'm just looking for the wrong experience? I wish I wasn't such a hiki-neet cause even shit like talking to other people in vrchat sounds like it would stress me out even though I'm super interested in it. Like the social aspect of VR is really huge and I'm just too pussy to go talk to people lol
I haven't really kept up with the VR space for a long time but are things developing in any sort of forward direction?

>>472460001
Name 6

>>472460069
If you can't move your head around to look at shit at a reasonable speed in an FPS because of your headset, you need to tighten your strap. While the Beyond's weight is neat, the only real thing that should be holding you back from whipping your head around would be a cable, which you don't have, or a lack of space. There's also a plethora of good single player VR games, though they're largely flat2VR ports but with some that are clear homages but at least a new game like Into the Radius being not!Stalker. Go pirate some of the FPS games, or play the HL2VR mods, and you'll realize that unlike a mouse and screen, you aren't jerking your head all over the place because you can look at things with your peripheral vision while staying pointed at where you're focused.

>>472460001
trannies in /vrg/ are a minority. as another anon said female avatar does not equal wanting to cut off your cock.
>>472460069
god damn nigger space out your paragraphs.
to answer your question, VR software is in a bad state right now. VRChat is still the most popular VR game by a long mile so I'd say try it out even as a mute and see if it's for you.
in terms of VR hardware, yes there's been quite a few good headsets coming out that surpass quest 2 easily.
bigscreen beyond is good but i can not recommend you spend $1000 for a headset on a hobby you're not really enjoying because of reasons other than the headset.

>>472460753
also to add to
>VRChat is still the most popular VR game by a long mile so I'd say try it out even as a mute and see if it's for you.
you should join /vrg/ instances if you can, you will have a miserable experience if you just hop around public worlds.

>>472460364
>need to tighten your strap
Yea I still have the default strap so I'm def slightly cucked there lmfao... I guess you are right that it would be weird to sling my head around considering I loved superhot which definitely requires a lot of looking, even if I technically had as much time as needed to do so
Thanks for all the recs too! I'll def check out the flat2VR games in the rentry and borrow a few fps games. HL2VR also sounds super cool too so I think I'll try that first
Thanks fren
>>472460753
Can't believe this is the first time I've been called out for not doing reddit spacing lel... Looks like you're on pc tho so it's probably aids to read, who am I to say

Ur right that I might as well try out vrc with no mic tho since it does sound pretty fun to wander around and take in the sights/people watch

Also yea that's about what I figured, def no need to drop big bucks when I don't actually have many complaints regarding fidelity or excess discomfort in the first place
>>472460957
Noted!

Other avoids the pipeline

>>472461290
Yeah, use paragraphs it's reddit spacing. Don't and it's badly spaced. Can't win.

Anyway; Into the Radius is a great game, HL2VR is great, Alyx should be played if you haven't already, then there's some non fps games like walkabout mini golf, last clockwinder, the wanderer, vertigo 2 (oh wati that's fps), legendary tales, project wingman, no man's sky supports vr now but it's janky, no more rainbows is a great platformer, eleven table tennis is table tennis. Then the all time number one: Outer wilds VR mod. If you haven't played that game yet then drop everything you're doing and go play it in VR.

>>472461290
>Can't believe this is the first time I've been called out for not doing reddit spacing lel... Looks like you're on pc tho so it's probably aids to read, who am I to say
Reddit spacing usually refers to spacing out every single sentence, but yeah on PC it basically looks like wordswordswordswords that stretch across the entire monitor

>>472461527
Reddit spacing is a fucking retarded meme if it's just normal paragraph breaks. You can even look at the webm that people post to demonstrate Reddit spacing and see that actual Reddit spacing would involve three line breaks instead of just two as is normal, like this.


Also, people that accuse people of Reddit spacing are worthless subhumans who can be safely disregarded without reading further into their post because double line break paragraph spacing has been normal on 4chan and even older forums that preceded it because otherwise you end up with a wall of text.

>>472415420
cum

>>472461728
True, I was gonna add that reddit spacing is a meme

But at the same time

There are also people

That space out every sentence like this

People just gotta line break when needed.

WALKABOUT MINI GOLF TODAY

WARNING: IS NOW AT 1300 UTC+1 (1200 UTC)
Why? Because it used to be SEA golf but it's 90% euros.

>>472461931
But it's not like
this would be any more coherent
or readbable if they were to not include
an extra line break beyond the first.
That is more a result of being a retard
phoneposter who doesn't realize that 4chan
does autotextwrapping.

>>472455449
become racist

>>472461527
Jesus H that does look like shit lmao
>>472461457
Massive list of games tyty! Adding all of these to my list of things to grab. And fuck dude I forgot about project wingman that's gotta be hype as hell
>Outer wilds
You know I somehow missed out on playing it in the first place. Is VR good for a first experience?

Real VR Fishing lobby after golf, going to fish for the limited event fish, after 1PM GMT.

>>472462823
>Is VR good for a first experience?
It's a game you can only really do properly once; and people who played it flat missed out on the vr mode. VR is such a superior experience for that game. Good vr legs needed though. If you can handle hl2vr it will be fine though

>>472463871
Bet bet I'll get at least a little hl2vr out of the way first then, thanks!