/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1659

>>505876021 (Cross-thread)
Listen here, chud. Yuki crafted a logo. Not just any logo, but a symbol, an emblem of pure, unassailable genius. He asked in the threads, openly, for input on what the community needed, and what did he do? He delivered. A logo for regular /vrg/ events, designed by the master himself.

Do you think Yuki, who has been here since the very genesis of it all, doesn’t know better than you what belongs to /vrg/? His presence alone sanctifies it. If Yuki says it’s /vrg/, then by his sheer authority, it is /vrg/.

Bow your head.
Hail Yuki.
Hail /vrg/

Will there be a watch party for the HL:A2 and Deckard reveal?

first for compressionlists reigning supreme at the game awards tonight

>>505876751
>Deckard reveal?
god i hope so

>>505876593
t. nigger who doesnt do anything

>>505876593
>>505877267
Alright, everyone, let’s take a deep breath. My contributions are cool and all, but let’s not elevate this into some kind of divine crusade. I made a couple of logos, not the Arc of the Covenant. Appreciating someone’s is fine, but please do not put other people down.

Let’s keep the vibe chill and focused on the community, not a single person’s ‘sanctified presence.’ At the end of the day, we’re all here to have fun and enjoy what /vrg/ is about. No need for melodrama, folks.

>>505876751
https://vrchat.com/home/group/grp_b67eed2c-8cbf-4969-8de8-ff6fad736f28

Reminder that there's Sleepy Walkabout Mini Golf in about 4 hours (11PM ET), hope to see you there

>>505877336
kek, what a fun light hearted funpostflag

new WRC event: H2 in gravel part of Italy. Cars are surprisingly fast for being 70's shitboxes, track has fast sections, on the upside they're way more controllable than what you'd expect from a 70's RWD.

Join:
https://racenet.com/ea_sports_wrc/clubs/19481

>>505876406 (OP)
NA /vrg/ soccer instance will start at around 11:15pm EST tomorrow (Friday), slightly earlier than usual so it doesn't extend into the dance.

Final match of the group stage will be this Saturday, December 14th against /nepgen/ @ 21:00 UTC/4:00pm EST.
NA watch will probably be around the same 11:15/11:30pm EST time.

ITS UP
https://valveprism.com/

>>505879557
holy shit its real
more info on https://www.goatse.info/

It's so fucking over...

AS2 released this year? Wasn't it previous?

>>505878992
What dance? Did I miss an event announcement somewhere?

>>505880751
December 2023, so it still counts
>>505881114
Yeah, it's been posted in the past couple threads. See >>505672085 (Cross-thread)

>>505880552
where is hitman?

>>505881293
pfff
the list was laughable as is

>>505880552
bamham gud tho

>retarded women most excited about woke games
can't make this shit up

can we just skip these stupid awards and get to gaben announcements?

>>505881637
>get to gaben announcements
anon I...

>>505882025
But two weeks just passed! You told me!

>>505882082
No no no anon, you seem to be confused. The Deckard announcement is in two more weeks!

>>505882082
>he converted the global two weeks to local two weeks incorrectly again

2 weeks, 2 weeks ago, is now 4 weeks in inflation time thus making it 2 more weeks as it currently stands.

>>505881637
I'd be surprised if Valve announces anything before next Summer. Deckard and their new controllers are probably still about a year off at this point.

>>505886896
I can't wait to laugh at everyone who hoped Deckard. Unironically, HL3 getting announced at TGA is more likely off the circumstantial evidence. And that still takes a shitton of copium.

no gaems

games?

seven reasons why i think mr fat nigger GAY BEN will NOT be annoucning ANYHTING related to vr tonight

>505892904
good morning sar!

https://x.com/ArkhamVideos/status/1867370738187211101
Best AR/VR game is Batman: Arkham Shadow

The Quest advertisements on the TGA are legitimately embarrassing to watch.
This is some how do you do fellow kids shit.

Ahh, I'm late!
Ladies(male) and gentlewomen.
I'm going to keep it short this time.
Because I'm getting older and I have yet to receive a dime.
No no, I get it, I do it for free.
That's why all you need to know is that it's my bday baby!!!
This upcoming Friday night (Not Thursday!!) we're partying at Club Friends+ once again.
And well, you know the drill at this point. Come join us fren.

Doors open at 11:50 EST. There'll be a link posted in here.
The code for the door is 7850. If you share this you should go an hero.
New to these? Add Spheri to your friends list.
That's how you stay in and not get pissed.
/ourDJ/ will be mixing live for us that day.
So if that's your thing let's party the night away.
We'll see (you) on the dancefloor.

>>505899892
Happy Birthday S! Can't join but I hope you have a wonderful Birthday bash dance~

BLM is rioting in Chinatown now too... it's over...

>>505876406 (OP)
:: /vrg/ Christmas Party - Secrets of Santa 2024 | December 14 ::
What is this?
Come enjoy a comfy christmas party with your fellow /vrg/ anons.
Chat, chill and warm yourselves with the other anon's as everyone gathers round to see all the gifts Santa Anons made for one another.

Beverages, snacks and orderves will be served from our tourism sensitive hosts. In a fully custom map designed for /vrg/.

A new Christmas Carol created by /vrg/ for /vrg/ is also gonna be shown, lovingly crafted by everyone.
To usher in the start of the event and see all the soulful christmas cards created by anon for anon.
And see all the Christmas Cards anon made for anon.

A dance will occur led by the PyPy crew which we want everyone to dance along with to then reach the climax.
At it's climax everyone comes in and welcome's santa on the chair to receive gifts specially made for them.
Fully recorded not just as a 2D image but a 3D HOLOGRAM to capture the magic of opening for years to come.
Non-secret santa participants will be able to have a little token as well.

This year's theme is: Comfy Christmas Village

When?
SEA - is not gonna be here for this year for the first time ever since Secret Santa started ;_;
EU - 19:00 UTC
NA - 10:30 PM EST


EVERYONE in /vrg/ is Invited to come enjoy this merriest of VR tradition 7 years long coming and that includes (You)

https://vrch.at/77ghv8wd
pypy

>>505902476
i'll join in maybe 20-30 mins watching game awards...

>>505901676
bringin' the heat.

>>505903719
Does LIB have Depth pass yet so it can seamlessly integrate as a 3D model in VR space rather than just an overlay?

>>505903719
>>505904086
they have some sort of sdk that the gamedev can incorporate to do actual compositing, which dragon fist does. Requires dev effort though.

I hate to admit it, but I struggle sometimes to see or notice the compression artifacts anymore.

>>505902476
uuuooohhhhh

>>505904738
Oh cool that's still good to know! LIB is the 2nd best thing to an actual standardized avatar system across VR games. Zuck is trying to do that but he kinda sucks in his avatar implementation. A full on community effort across devs would do best.
Something where we can just easily load our VRchat avatars in is best. If someone makes an SDK like that will forever have my reverence and anime titties.

>>505904947
Man I remember the times I super like U's models. The march of fashion improvements from booth modelers are hard to beat, the increase in model quality just rises up. U's model still looks really good but it's starting to feel dated compared to recent base models.

>>505905240
I remember when avatars were a means of expressing your tastes and personality instead of a handbag-tier fashion statement you discard for next season's release.

>>505904738
fiery. The game is fun at low skill levels. The FBT is very jank though; if you accidentally select the default game mode in multiplayer, it turns off and you can't turn it back on again unless you exit the lobby. The hit detection is jank enough too that I honestly think you could do the same kung fu melee system in vrchat udon and it'll feel okay. Would never be great but fun enough with silly avatars.

>>505905604
You can still express your tastes while keeping up with the advance in technology anon.
Pic related is the same character expressed over the course of the tech improving

>>505905240
i love u's models

Walkabout lobby is up, room code is vrg

its over

>>505903719
>>505904738
>>505905836
How does the custom avatar thing work? Can you play multiplayer with other people using custom avatars?

gaben didnt show up..

WHERE IS IT GABEN

Everyone laugh at Deckard fags.

I expected nothing and I’m still disappointed.

>>505900139
t-thanks

Someone says anything about deckard or gayben one more time and I swear to fucking god...

Maybe next year deckard fags. Quest 3S is a great upgrade from your dated index.

>>505905240
thanks for thinking about me

>>505907846
why didn't you reply to my post too

>>505906995
It's LIV, so it's purely for these shill webms. Everyone is a regular kung fu dude in multiplayer.

>>505907846
You're welcome. I always think about you. You're still one of my favorite targets

If you're seething and coping about no HL3 or the Deckard just take a look at the Tekken general and be grateful you will never be as ass blasted as them

>>505902476
gg w pypy
ty for hosting

>>505914492
my pypyfu is missing...

>>505914492
lewd santa loli...

>>505914492
is there going to be an NA pypy tomorrow?

>>505915952
Nope, NA pypy only happens on mon/tues/thursday.

>>505916071
awwwww

>>505910787
Not a pretty sight.

>>505908132
bröther, thank you for your support

>>505910787
feet

>>505906276
Good golfing, golfers

>>505918428
Found the (actual) skeleton on the map! The one in the closet was a decoy!

>>505916915
always, my little caprine friend

>>505902349
Tomorrow will be so much fun!

>>505901676
>>505903719
I'm covered in sweat and have blood on my hands but feel so alive. Gonna lift some iron for next time.

>>505920901
It sure will be! Christmas party time!

Vox Machinae lobby will be hosted tomorrow at 9:00 pm est. Scrap some mechs before the dance!

>>505921394
Nice, looking forward to it

>>505876406 (OP)
Christmas Santa's Lap event needs to be added to the OP
Saturday, December 21st

9 pm est Vox Machinae
10:30 pm est Christmas party
11:50 pm est Spheri's birthday dance

Pavlov push today at 19:00 UTC / 20:00 CET

Modlist:

# rcon
AdditionalMods=UGC3462586

# team arm band (hidden doesn't like it)
AdditionalMods=UGC3953175

# crouch mod
AdditionalMods=UGC4324350

#jump
AdditionalMods=UGC3484154
# velocity fall damage (included)
AdditionalMods=UGC3943838

#player collisions
AdditionalMods=UGC3975268

MapRotation=(MapId="UGC3103910", GameMode="DM") # rust

MapRotation=(MapId="UGC4045141", GameMode="PUSH") # Desert War [Push]
MapRotation=(MapId="UGC3327006", GameMode="PUSH") # Prohibition
MapRotation=(MapId="UGC3109522", GameMode="PUSH") # Contraband
MapRotation=(MapId="UGC3395887", GameMode="PUSH") # Silent Night
MapRotation=(MapId="UGC3548175", GameMode="PUSH") # NAM Hill 875 [Push]
MapRotation=(MapId="UGC3564015", GameMode="PUSH") # Battery [Push]

MapRotation=(MapId="UGC4267556", GameMode="PUSH") # BF2 Gulf of Oman medium 18 players

Each map is like 1-2GBs and this isn't like Contractors where the game autodownloads every mod you're subscribed to. I highly recommend using the predownloader here if you don't want to stand there waiting after every map change:
https://github.com/Greendayle/pavlov_mod_predownloader/releases/tag/v0.04
Copy the list of maps to a modlist.txt file in the same folder as the exe and run it. You can also use the uncompiled python script but you need to put your mod.io api key there.

>>505918428
What a mysterious visitor

>>505825157 (Cross-thread)
I don't particularly pay attention to the football but is there an easy way to stream this live into VRChat, would be nice to watch at an appropriate time for Europeans (as taboo as it seems to watch early).

>>505878809
Out of curiosity - are you anons using a wheel and everything, or do you play with controller(s)?

>>505932397
As far as I know most anons got wheels fro rally and assetto, especially assetto.

WRC has pretty good controller support though, but g29 is not that expensive new, or used.

>>505932397
People use wheels, but if there's any racing game that's any good for a controller, it's DR/WRC. Most of racing sims are near unplayable on a controller, WRC handles it somewhat alright, for example by applying minor corrections on straight that you probably couldn't perfom without a wheel otherwise.

I've ran one event on a controller, it was obviously far less precise and also kinda immersion breaking because your VR ingame hands are no longer more-or-less in your real life position, but it was also playable

>>505915952
No pypy, but there's dance hours happening >>505899892

Some form of Friday Night Hangout will be attempted at 2030-2100 GMT (2130-2200 CET) i.e 11 hours from now. Last week's /vg/ league match will be on if anyone's interested in that.

>>505933298
>>505933536
got it! thanks anons
i only have a controller
maybe an odd question but what WRC version are you running?

>>505937008
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1849250/EA_SPORTS_WRC_24/

But host is running only the stages before 2024 update, so if you bought it long time agoand didnt buy expansions, you are fine. If you buy it now you get 2024 expansion for free

>>505938582
Host just bought WRC24 content DLC pack, so on next big championship we'll be running in new countries. It's 20eur and I don't think any of WRCfags will mind.

>>505935270
Who is hosting?

>>505938729
Based. 2024 is real gravel core

>>505938776
Some anon

>>505935270
>Discord clique instances

>>505939482
A link will be in the thread, as usual. Though by the sounds of it you haven't, won't and will never show up.

>>505939610
Youll just kick me because your discord clique decided like that

Dear shitposters, thread schizos, avatarfags, and anons,

We are thrilled you chose to join us at the Midnight Express for your winter vacation! We request you arrive to your station 11:30 PM EST to secure boarding, with the train departing promptly at 11:59PM EST. This journey promises to amaze you with various exotic locations throughout the world of VRChat!

Start Time Schedule (U.S. Time Zones):
Eastern Standard Time (EST): 11:30 PM
Central Standard Time (CST): 10:30 PM
Mountain Standard Time (MST): 9:30 PM
Pacific Standard Time (PST): 8:30 PM

The Journey:
Prepare to explore a collection of captivating worlds handpicked by our experts! Each stop lasts 30 minutes, immersing you in a new theme. Between worlds, relax aboard the luxurious Midnight Express as we ride the rails for 30 minutes, offering a chance to unwind, connect, and enjoy the onboard amenities.

Onboard Features:
Personal Stewards: Experience first-class service with room stewards available for all your needs.
Shared Cabins: Perfect for mingling with fellow travelers or kicking back in comfort.
Game Room: Dive into fun games, and socialize with fellow passengers.
Restaurant Car: Savor a variety of digital delicacies while taking in the train's scenic views.
This journey will continue all night long, offering endless adventure and entertainment. Pack light, dress for vacation, and prepare for the journey of a lifetime.

We can't wait to see you aboard the Midnight Express!

Warm regards,
The Midnight Express Team

>>505878992
Dam i need this outfit

>>505938949
Blessed anon <3

shame that their booth went from lewd and advanced to become completely lobotomized by the vket management

>>505902349
The song is complete, look forward to the premiere tomorrow. Thank you for everyone who contributed in some manner, from singing, recording, writing or providing the tools and expertise to put everything together in a short timespan. There would be no song without you guys. The most heartfelt of gratitude to the video editor, who compiled around a hundred clips together to create the final product in about five days, integrating his own vision with minimal direction. How M has done it every year on his own is a testament to his capability and shouldn't be taken for granted, so thank you for your contributions every year that inspired us to keep this tradition going. Merry Christmas everybody.

>>505941260
is this a sos event?

>>505946165
im so excited

>>505940785
Can't believe this discord clique hates paedophiles.

>>505940785
Well maybe answer the questions next time and don't be offended that we don't recognize you cause you haven't logged in since 2018.

>>505949308
oh god, is the "woman" doing her bit again?

can latency schizos take over the thread again please
we had enough vrc drama for today

>>505949896
sure! I'll start!

If you add more compression to a video, it'll have higher quality.

>>505950082
I said schizos, not retards.

>>505950082
>ironic anon cannot comprehend the beauty of youtube grain

Speaking of which, they actually removed the false positive. Took them less than 48 hours even.
Pic before: >>505732669 (Cross-thread)

Doubters?

>>505950357
>youtube grain

>>505948891
is there more games that do this? it's such a cool feature and it would probably get my family to play vr

>>505951720
>is there more games that do this?
Yeah!
https://www.amazon.com/ENOVI-Badminton-Backyards-Shuttlecocks-Portable/dp/B0CHRPQ952/ref=sr_1_6?sr=8-6

>>505949308
what kind of questions?

>>505951720
The game is Home Sports. Bowling mode seems the most fun. Not sure if it supports a mix of local VR players and online players though.
This one is Catastrophic Inversion and it's kinda laser tag but you'll need a huge playspace and lots of players also still early in development.
Demeo supports local vr as well as for other games I've got no clue.

>>505953330
That looks mega, I've seen companies do custom experiences built around this sort of idea but it's usually quite a bespoke system.

>>505951480
Its litterally the same codec

>>505955017
>grain
>in a digital codec
>youtube grain
>grain
zoomer brainrot

>>505955327
16x16 macroblocks like digital graininess when the bitrate cant keep up with scene complexity

>>505955609
Fix: look like

>>505955758
>digital graininess
oh boy...
please learn the words you want to use more often. Please look into what grain is and isn't.
You sound like someone who heard words and uses them because they were used wrong.

>>505956087
I know what physical film grain is. And h264 video with its macroblocks on unsuficient bitrate looks GRAINY.

>>505956391

>>505956786
UOOOH SARS!

Is there a standard or a format for 3d images btw?

>>505931654
All the streams are hosted on twitch so you just take the twitch link in the cytube and put it into a video player in VRC and you should be able to watch it live

>>505957523
Aye I had a look on their archive page and tried to download it there, stopped when I saw it was going at 150KB/s and then found the twitch (after watching too much King of the Hill). I downloaded the vod and clipped the end game of /vrg/ V. /esg/ from last week and hosted that separately. Also forgot about most video players supporting twitch.

>>505957175
the "standard" looks like this, you can open it in the quest browser while browsing the thread

>>505957762
Can you elaborate? What is the difference in metadata?

>>505957910
metadata is useless, you have to know what your video player can or can't display

>>505957745
In terms of VODs I always try to upload them all to a youtube channel here and include the live chat from the game as well
https://www.youtube.com/@vrgvods
>>505942895
It's just the base Shinano outfit with the dress UV-mapped to this texture.

>>505929716
why gachaslop as pic?

>>505958191
Sick! Thanks for doing the hard work, I'll be using these links instead tonight.

>>505958451
No problem, thanks for hosting and getting more timezones involved than just NA

>>505956458
Nooo digital compression cannot look grainy, it lacks the silver halide crystals which form graaaain, nooondont call this picture, which looks grainy, grainy, it cant be grainy its not fiiilm!!!!

>>505958864
glad you agree

>>505958864
it's not actually grain unless it's from the grain region of france

>>505958864
>Nooo digital compression cannot look grainy
okay I'll bite
show me the digital compression artefacts that look like analog grain

twoish weeks till Christmas vros...

So what happened to gabben saving vr at the game awards?

>>505961961
Gabe tripped and fell and hurt his hip while meeting Geoff Keighley, so the Deckard reveal has been postponed by two weeks.

>>505961961
That's outdated info - latest forecasts show a deckard announcement coming in approximately 2 more weeks

>>505961961
it will be announced where it was previously planned it would be.
christmas. Or in round about 2 weeks.

Tips for PUSH later tonight:

- try not to simply spawn in and run to the front. wait for others to spawn back in, formulate a plan. don't give the defenders a lot of 1 vs. X situations.

- Many maps have a medic class. Use your syringe to revive other players. for best effect, find a safe place to hunker down in a cover on defense, or be behind 2-3 attackers when your team trying to advance or pinned down. consistent rezzing keeps the pressure up, along with heals.

-Smokes are more important for thwarting defenders

- If your offense team is at 0 tickets but the remaining players on offense start capping a point either thru bomb plant or occupying, you can respawn without losing anymore tickets as long as the point is contested.

- Tanks need to move up with infantry. otherwise the only safe way to use them is as artillery

- supply classes should be nearby anti-tank, explosive wielding, or machine gun classes to keep them firing.

- if your teammate goes down and they're carrying valuable gear such as an mg or smokes, grab them.

- use prone!

- most machine guns have bipods. use them as suppressing fire or as area denial

>>505964029
>PUSH
whats that

>>505958116
>metadata is useless
I doubt it.
The player has to know that the file is "3d" to mark it as such, or did you mark the files in webm manually?

Tips for PUSH later tonight:
- Not WW2 = not worth playing

>>505964029
Damn sounds like it'll be kino but I won't make it.

>>505964329
>The player has to know that the file is "3d" to mark it as such
immergallery claims they have an AI detector, other players rely on file naming such as _LR_180.mp4

>>505964845
This is absolutely fucking retarded.

I feel really retarded but I can't figure out how to get a simple clothes boolean toggle to work. I feel like I did all the steps but the Expression toggle just doesn't function for some reason. All the other premade toggles work but the new ones I make don't work. Anyone else have this issue?

>>505964921
Easiest thing is to just install VRCFury and use the toggles component: https://vrcfury.com/components/toggle/

>>505964921
weight set to 1 on the layers?

>>505964921
You're going to have to show your FX layer, can't see what went wrong just off the parameters screenshot
Here's a quick tutorial to double-check you did everything right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqtSg6_W07Y

someone is doing a quick, low effort secret santa?

>>505964029
what time again?

>>505964029
What's push? I can't find it on steam.

>>505958451
Oh here's the hype video from this tournament too if you wanted to play it before the match, it's quite high quality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL_OiYby42s

>>505964029
oh shit thank you for reminding me this is on, yeah we're gaming today fellas

>>505953247
"What is your favorite board?"

tried Hard Bullet as my second vr game - damn, this game made me sweaty and disoriented in no time
had to take a sit after like 2 minutes, otherwise i would fall over for sure
smooth locomotion is rather unpleasant for me at this point, as well as using the stick to turn around - and here is a question for you anons
i am using default values, but since it can run at 120hz, what are the downsides of using that, along with maxed resolution at x1.7?
i have heard that it feels better at a higher refresh rate, in terms of nausea

>>505958191
thank you sir this will be fun to put on <3

>>505941260
>Start Time Schedule (U.S. Time Zones):
>Eastern Standard Time (EST): 11:30 PM
>Central Standard Time (CST): 10:30 PM
>Mountain Standard Time (MST): 9:30 PM
>Pacific Standard Time (PST): 8:30 PM
You should put the actual date in here as well

>>505899892
Why do you advertise this here when you also advertise this in your discord clique? Seems like you're just making it a rando fest to me desu.

>>505967220
Higher refresh rate does help if you're new and prone to motion sickness yeah
In terms of downsides of that and raising the resolution uhhh the battery will drain faster.
Some games might run worse if you raise the resolution too high, although if you're just playing standalone stuff I don't think it'll be that much of an issue for a Quest 3.

>>505968691
There's barely a difference when doing streaming with battery drain

>>505966216
>>505964249
He's talking about the Pavlov game mode but is too autistic to realize this context isn't telepathically conveyed.

If you haven't already, you need to start playing the HaloCEVR conversion mod. It's a great way to play again and looking around the cutscenes in VR is fun too.
https://github.com/LivingFray/HaloCEVR

>>505969626
Does it have multiplayer support?

>>505929716
EU Con... Pavlos push in about an hour and a half

>>505935270
It'll be 22:00 CET this week.

>>505969770
:(

>>505959807
suddenly he got quiet

is anyone going to host mahjong tonight?

>>505968691
Thanks anon!
i have an extra battery so im not worried about running low on charge

I hate when I request an invite from someone and they deny it with the message "I'm hanging out with friends". I'm also your friend like wtf is that supposed to mean? Fuck orange people.

>>505975229
sorry you just don't fit the vibe

>>505975229
Sorry, sister, you are not invited to the secret groupchat.
This is what you get for not pulling out. Think twice next time.

>>505975229
different friend group, sorry

>>505975229
I've never changed my status ever. I'm perma green. I confronted someone once asking why they're always orange and basically comes down to "uhhh I don't want some people joining".
They're friends collectors and too much of a pussy to purge their FL.

>>505975229
It is well known perma-orange status niggers are cringe.

>>505975530
Let me explain it to your autistic ass
THEY
ARE
GOONING
GAY SEX IN VIRTUAL REALITY

>>505975530
>start to purge my friends list
>instant crying in the thread about being unfriended bc they have vrcx
its fine, i have other friends on green that are cool. you can just invite urself on me, i'll accept it ;^)

>>505975229
Maybe they have non-4chan friends.

>>505969909
Nope

>>505975229
I've had someone complain because I joined them on green before.

Hey, latency Terry Davis!

I've exchanged email with the authors of original article, and they suspect, I might be polling previous frame position. He says that in his Unity app they measure the controller position at the very last moment possible

I've compared the most closest results and got picrelated. And checking VRChat docs:
https://creators.vrchat.com/worlds/udon/event-execution-order/ I do it in Update(), but I guess it was wrong and should have done it in PostLateUpdate()

I think I am actually changing the world color based on the previous frame hand position, not the one which is about to be displayed. Which means, all the VRChat results are longer by exactly one frame. If I correct them, I get pretty much the same results as the article.

>>505975229
they are hanging out with normies incompatable with 4chan powerlevels. Please understand.

>>505979638
Can you test the exe in the meantime?
The antivirus company fixed their detection after manually checking the exe >>505950574

>>505979638
corrected latencies...

Im really itching to try the scary exe...

>>505980074
>Im really itching to try the scary exe...
Is it really scary at this point? It was manually checked by the antivirus devs.

>>505980056
Dont do it this will display dolphin porn in the headset

>trying out wivrn
>alyx movement doesn't work
>hl2vr doesn't work
>outer wilds vr crashes
>elite dangerous barely works
so what actually works on this thing

>>505980257
OH FUCK DOWNLOADING RIGHT NOW

>>505980261
vrchat
i stick to wired hmds but opencomposite still has issues with several games

>>505980261
wouldnt alvr work

>>505980927
yeah but that's steamvr so no reprojection on loonix

>>505929716
Server is up
Join FridayPushslop
Password is 1588

>>505981138
wife

>>505975530
It's not unreasonable to want to avoid mixing certain friends groups and this opinion is generally held by 1 of 3 types of people.

1.) People who are rando enablers
2.) People who don't talk to anyone outside /vrg/ and live exclusively in the insular bubble
3.) Massive fucking retards

Which one are you?

>>505981138
Server name is FridayPushslopBackup. We had issues with the main server.
Password is the same, 1588

>>505905862
low poly event when?

>>505969626
Is there manual reloading? I might have to give it a try if so.

where is everyone

no WW2 - no coming

Can EUs join NA events or is that frowned upon?

>>505981138
>In 1588, Spain’s King Philip II ordered a naval invasion of England.

>>505983530
It's not a sweaty lobby. If you can handle the pihg just join.

>>505965036
I could try that. Hopefully I can also set the blendshapes too since the creator shrank the torso and other parts to 0.
>>505965465
Yep I had those set to 1.
>>505965549
Wow I am retarded. I forgot to set the conditions. Now it works. Thanks.

>>505984252
black

>>505984252
N

>>505984354
>>505984431
Now you can see why I'm retarded.

>>505984431
I

>>505984252
sexo

>>505935270
>>505966237
>>505970853
For tonight /vg/ league 23 games:
2230 CET: /vrg/ V. /dgg/ played on the 29th of November.
2330 CET: /vrg/ V. /esg/ played on the 8th of December.
Each game is about 40 minutes including the hype trailer.

>>505984252
Yeah nigger it's got object toggles, blend shape values, material swaps the lot. You'll see what you can do when you add the component and read the webpage.

>>505984252
Nice avatar, anon.
The colors fit well together.

>>505980074
>pico 4 pro
Is this headset's eye/face tracking functional in VRC? Is it working well compared to other solutions?

>vrc blacklists mail aliases from simplelogin
hilarious
actually the first service ive seen that does this

>>505986098
The eye tracking is pretty decent but the face tracking is total trash compared to Quest Pro
>t. has both headsets

>>505974468
Of course. 9pm EST as always. And Sunday too.

>>505986293
Aw, that's a shame. Thanks, great to know it from someone who got to experience it first hand. I'm somewhere between considering quest pro as a second headset exclusively for VRC, thinking about one of lighthouse-based eyetracked headsets (vajra aero?) with vive facial tracker, and saying fuck it all.

it's pretty hard to say fuck it all to face tracking, even though it's objectively the right choice

>>505987007
I got the pico 4 pro and I'd say the face tracking is serviceable it does everything you'd want for it to do though quest pro is the better choice since it's more precise
The few things I prefer over the Quest Pro is that the pico feels more comfortable on the head and that the controllers are battery based so you can just pop in new batteries to keep playing unlike with the Quest Pro where you have to let them charge

Been spendin' most their lives
Livin' in a gangsta's paradise

>>505988872
Original poster of >>505986293 here, I don't personally find the face tracking serviceable in P4 Pro. Maybe it's because it's primarily aimed at gooks and tracking gook faces, but for my face with a slightly large nose it will often fail to even register basic things like smiling.

>>505989992
Oh I also dislike that facetracking on Pico only works with their own proprietary streaming software. I would rather use Virtual Desktop or Steam Link with it instead but can't.

>>505989992
I mean to my experience I think it has been good though I suppose it can vary
For me it tracks most things except some like sucking in the cheeks or like moving the tongue up or down

>>505990956
Might just be a matter of certain facetypes work better than others

>>505991363
Don't call him a gook Anon, that's not very nice!

>>505986098
I wrote a review in the OP rentry if you're thinking about buying a Pico 4 Pro.
I also wrote https://rentry.org/2h3edfdp which isn't in the OP I think if you're dead-set on getting one so you don't waste your time with various bullshit

The face tracking isn't great, but neither is any face tracking that isn't a big(ish) camera pointed straight at your face.

>>505989992
I don't think headsets with face tracking target specific face types though if a person has unusual face proportions it could affect it
I have tried the Quest Pro and the Pico 4 pro and they worked pretty much the same

>>505935270
>>505970853
>>505984895
Let's begin our night.
https://vrch.at/624fmxfn

>>505989627
You wanna tell me what this is all about?

>>505990283
>Steam Link
soon but maybe not the Pro
hard to say

>>505992426
>which isn't in the OP
I added it to the headset guide a while back, but admittedly I'm not sure how many people actually read that.

>>505994346
So I see, cool. Dunno if it's that useful but hopefully it saves people some money

>>505994346
In another general I frequent I wrote a very expanded pastebin for game emulation. No one reads shit and just ask in the thread. Maybe twice a year you'd see someone asking "Is the info in the pastebin outdated?" and that's it.

>>505994071

>>505994071
I'll be there Anon!

>>505987007
>I'm somewhere between considering quest pro as a second headset exclusively for VRC, thinking about one of lighthouse-based eyetracked headsets (vajra aero?) with vive facial tracker, and saying fuck it all.
unless you're really craving early access facetracking in one particular shittily made vr platform and willing to dish out the dosh for it and cope with the downsides of a hybrid playspace or proprietary varjoware you should probably just keep waiting TM
>t. own vive pro eye + face tracker, quest pro, pico 4 pro, and have a babble on the way

>>505995710
>coping
I mean, I love jank, and I love new things that put fucking-around episode as a strict requirement rather than having a 'polished product' and that's about it. I wouldn't cope with downsides, I'd have a blast with downsides, stupid as it sounds.

But if anons say P4P face tracking is meh at worst and 'i'd say it's serviceable' at best, I'm not sure if it's worth this ~800eur first world retailers are asking for it. Around this price point, I could have one of those niche eye-tracking lighthouse headsets, and then I'd have something that could possibly both replace Index as HMD for normal vidya + also serve as face tracked VRC escapism helmet when paired with face tracker.

But one way or another, thanks for opinions, lots of good info.

>>505984809
>>505985372
Thanks anons. I'm hoping I can concept and model a nice reindeer outfit for him.

>>505981138
Good pavloving pavlovers

>>505997068
for face tracking fidelity the general ranking is generally
>vive pro eye + face tracker > qpro > p4pro
can't speak to babble but many have said its not quite as good as the commercial products
qpro notably can't do tongue movements while a vive face tracker can, but those are discontinued and everyone seems to universally hate the vive focus vision's different eye/face tracking setup
if you've got an index there are a lot of DIY babble (or vive face tracker) with EyeTrackVR mods to look into so you don't have to get a whole other headset system to integrate
deckard will totally do face + eyes for sure though so just a few more weeks of waiting!
if you're a euro you can snag a qpro for like 500 eurobucks at the moment
its not worth the $1k USD asking price that I paid for it

>>505981138
h-heh yeah.... gg............................

>>505981138
That was fun, but I wish the ticket number adjusted to the players. With more people it will be way more balanced.

>>505997740
I agree, it makes the matches drag for way too long

>>505981138
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV_3Dpw-BRY

>>505997076
>>505997514
>>505997740
How did push with 5 people on the server go?

>>505997953
Better than expected.

>>505997953
I'm actually angry that none of the tuesday faggots showed up

>>505997740
we should play on the more established Push servers like Med or High Push. if we seed it with 9 vrgers we'd get random pouring in to fill the ranks.

Whats the most optimal setup for playing VR games like HL Alyx?

>>505997487
>if you're a euro you can snag a qpro for like 500 eurobucks at the moment
I am euro, but so far I've seen only one offer of cheap quest pro, and it turned out to be kinda fake store wouldn't let me add it to basket despite claiming it's in stock. Do you mean used offers, or did I miss something around retailers? QP for 500eur would be a steal, especially given how ridiculously overpriced VPEye seems to be.

I don't want used QP because I've talked to at least one anon who had to RMA his because it was borked on arrival, plus supposedly it's susceptible to some kind of sweat-related damage. Then again, for 500eur it might be worth the risk.
>eyetrackVR
Built one, added a little potentiometer in front of IR LEDs to always set it to deliver bare minimum of light for pupils to be distinguishable/trackable, but sometimes I still felt like my eyes are getting warm. Got scared, now it's sitting in the drawer, I'd feel like utter retard if I'd lose my eyesight due to a shitty DIY project.

>>505998276
https://unboundxr.eu/meta-quest-pro-256gb-eoz-bundle
this eoz deal for 500 eurodollars
dunno the legitimacy of the site as I am not a euro

>>505998236
Quest 3 is the go-to recommended headset these days if you're new to VR

>>505998413
oh yeah I already bought it. Though Meta lied about delivery date.

>>505998236
wait 2 weeks and ask again
trust the plan

>>505998276
>QP for 500eur would be a steal
Not really.

Just fucking wait, let AndroidXR take off, face tracking would be baseline.
Apple is adding PSVR2 controller support too soon, I doubt anyone else can compete with them for eye/face tracking quality.

>>505998203
deagle man was there though

>>505998403
Yeah, that's exactly the one that wasn't adding to basket for me. Now it's out of stock, and given they were most likely selling out their remaining stock because it's out of production, I wouldn't expect them to stock up on QP ever again.

>>505998556
it says "back in stock: pre-order" so beats the hell out of me
i think they get stock shipped in externally and just resell it/distribute

>>505994071

>>505994542
Seems like it would be, hopefully some people actually read it.
>>505994550
That's part of why I've been kinda lazy about making any big updates to the rentry stuff lately.
Doesn't help that I can't really make meaningful updates for games I haven't played or headsets I haven't used either.

>>505997076

>>505998203
Most of the players are from Tuesday though.

>the retard doxed everyone. AGAIN
This is why I stopped joining the server.

>>505999307
That isn't doxing.

>>505999307
>dox

>>505999307
what?

>>505999307
>the thread has my Steam account now
Oh no bros. I will never recover from this.

NO MY STEAM NAME
NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>505999409
It is basically. Names, avatars, pings.
You get the steam page with the first two. Then estimate location with the last.
Too bad you are too stupid to realize that.

>>505999682
myes i have triangulated thine locational awareness
prepare thyself for imminent delivery of the worst kind:
pizza

>>505999307
What are those? IP Addresses? Steam names isn't doxing retard.

>>505998528
>let AndroidXR take off, face tracking would be baseline.
I don't really think face tracking will be baseline. It's supported but not mandatory, and the Samsung headset that was demoed and is the only one we know about for now didn't have it.
I'm sure we'll get headsets that have it, but I don't think they'll be out for a while.

>>505999682
If you can be doxxed by your steam profile that's a you issue.

>>505984895
Bit late but the football is on.

>>505999307
server owner got your ips

>>505999682
>be thread schizo
>carefully analyze data
>draw conclusions
>create a new discord account behind seven proxies, confront your target
>YOU'RE FROM USA AREN'T YOU
>yeah

most of those people are in vrg group on steam, it doesn't take a webm to link their steam accounts to this place

>>505999835
You are a tech illiterate retard.
0 respect and courtesy for the people joining.

>>505999307
>dox
this is bait right?
you're just fucking with us yeah?
anon?

>>506000010
it's over I found your spotify and reddit account I know all about your life I'm triangulating you as we speak except a funny package tomorrow morning

Imagine unironically joining the steam group honeypot.

>>506000034
why are you joining any game server which uses steam then? Everyone you play with are doxing you.

>>505999968
Neither of my public IP addresses point to where I live.

>>506000285
Game that uses steam p2p networking don't even leak IP adresses anymore. Valve created an intranet for years because CSGO and DOTA people were getting ddos'd during tournaments.
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/1433-AD20-F11D-B71E

>haha who cares about anonymity!
kys

famous words from a guy no one cares about

>>505998796
>>505994346
dont falter about receiving feedback on the rentry guides
any anon worth their salt knows how to check a generals OP and either takes away the info they need, then discusses the info in the thread (aka usually not showing they got their initial information from the OP guides)
or fucks off cuz they got what they needed and just know to check the VR thread for VR shit cuz they got the info in the OP

you wont see all the people who've used or read it for information because the majority get what they want and move on

>>506000802
self-proclaimed leaderfags on this very general have already stated that those are the rules of yore and are no longer necessary
sorry bud

>>506000802
>anonymity
>uses his normal steam account to join a server

>>506000285
>>506000563
Pavlov uses epic online services. That's how it's able to support PSVR2 crossplay in lobbies. Steam is only used to login to EOS.

>>506000950
>he doesn't buy a new copy of pavlov on a fresh alt account to use for every session with a unique voice changer

>>506001004
Pavlov uses direct IP connection to join dedicated servers, retard

>>505999879
Offside...

>he doesn't enter witness protection to adopt an entirely new identity every Tuesday to become truly untraceable

>>506001125
You can't join a Pavlov community server on a pirated copy. You need to pass through EOS.

>she doesn’t use a VPN
Sis the fuck are you doing? Letting everyone you connect to just hit it raw? Girl you’re filthy

Is Pavlov fun? Should I buy it?

>>506001432
No. No.

>>506001395
>xir doesn't play through Tor relays while rocking 999ms+ latencies
get real

>>506001432
Problem with pavlov is you should practice your aim for a good 20hrs before joining because otherwise you might not have any fun

Make our own pavlov-like game.

>using the internet
Do people really??

>>506001432
its fun if you are playing with people at the same skill level as you

>>506001528
Game sense is far more important than aiming. You can brute force doing well while playing badly if you're really good at aiming, but almost every else is a more efficient way to improve.

>he uses Windows, a closed source OS
>he uses Steam, a closed source platform
>he plays Pavlov, a closed source game
>that uses EAC, kernel-level spyware

About to get into Fallout 4 VR, are there any notable vr mods that have come out since the rentry was updated?

>>506001247
please please PLEASE score an onsides goal

>>506001432
yes, but brace yourself for infuriating episode of near zero kills through first week. it's not infuriating if you have the right mindset, but it takes a bit to get used to it, and given you'll be playing with fellow anons who do it weekly for years, the outcome is obvious. On the upside, once it clicks, you instantly become mid tier

long time ago good people used to nerf themselves to give people some room, unfortunately this tradition kinda died off through time. it's a shame really, but I believe in (You), you can simply accept the tutorial episode and then have proper fun with everyone once it's over. It's a CS VR, it's fucking great and worth the effort

>>506002009
No one has ever read any open source code to any open source software they’ve used. Don’t try to lie.

>>506002125
so what you're saying is everyone sweats and tries their heart out instead of playing 4fun

>>506002125
I still only buy the best weapons if we're losing or it is 9-9.

>>506001479
Wait a minute, let me check my card.

>>506002009
>>he uses Windows, a closed source OS
>>he uses Steam, a closed source platform
>>he plays Pavlov, a closed source game
>>that uses EAC, kernel-level spyware
So does every single normalfag, so that's irrelevant.
Proving that someone is a 4chan user? That's some pretty high entropy data.

>>506001432
One of the few VR games I continue to play after all these years. Always goes on sale.

>>506001856
You forgot how technical aiming is in the game especially if you don't know all the basic technique or turn on v-stock hand smoothing. There's plenty of retards every tuesday showing up with no game sense but getting good scores because all they do is walk with ADS and click on head with pimped out gun with red dots. ie. bnuuy

>>506002265
Not everyone, but yes, there's some guys who will make it a point to instantly headshot you on sight despite the fact that you're clearly busy trying to pick up your gun that you've accidentally dropped like a very very special operator you are. But many other anons are good sports, hell, I'd say majority of them are, so I'm sure it won't be all that horrible overall.

>>506002265
Maybe half the players will exclusively play the meta, but many aren't paying enough attention to notice who isn't.

>>506002009
>>he uses Windows, a closed source OS
wrong
>>he uses Steam, a closed source platform
you got me
>>he plays Pavlov, a closed source game
wrong
>>that uses EAC, kernel-level spyware
linux doesn't have this problem

>>506002217
Nobody is hiding backdoors in functions named "backdoor_entry()", all you need is a couple, at the first glance, benign bugs, which when working together under specific circumstances create a backdoor.
"Open source = safe" is a meme.

>>506002125
>long time ago good people used to nerf themselves to give people some room
I stop doing this when the team is losing or the other team were previously mercilessly stomping and deserve the same back.

>>506002265
You can ask people to play off-meta but you can't expect people not to try to win in a competitive game.

>>506001856
There is a minimum level of aim proficiency that you need in order for that to be true. Once you're past that level of aim, which isn't too high, then you're right that game sense is a more efficient way to get better. However, game sense doesn't matter if you literally cannot hit someone when you have a clear direct shot at them, which is where a lot of people who have never used motion controls or shot a gun before start off at.

>>506002775
sweat spotted

I've given up on Pavlov and Contractors because I just got bodied for a month straight on each

>>506003117
tips 1 : only use assault rifles
tips 2 : play like a fag

VR shooters would be so much better without automatic and high mag capacity weapons.
Bolt action + revolvers is peak vr.

>>506002265
Pavlov around /vrg/ has gone through a few cycles, at least in NA. Got played a lot for a while, but then the people who got really into it and spent time getting cracked and the casual anons who just showed up to lobbies 4fun started to drift apart drastically in skill level and it died off because it stopped being fun.

Then after like a year of NA pavlov being dead it got revived as drunk pavlov, which is what it sounds like, in an attempt to create a more fun and self-leveling playing field that wasn't just three or four guys with 5x the kills of everyone else.

That was also fun for a while, but the problem is, people started getting too good at playing while drunk, so now we're kinda back to square one. Potential solutions being explored include fentanyl pavlov and kratom pavlov.

>>506002907
I'll swap to using meta weapons exclusively and show you real sweat next week.

Automatic weapons = gay & unfun.
Literally, what is the point?

I played Pavlov for probably a year before I found out you can locate other players by sound.

>>506003939
see this right here is actually sweat behavior
you are the reason people don't play it

>>506003741
There's no bullet spread or random inaccuracy on tops of most auto weapons being able to be reload in 0.3 seconds.
If they adapted flat fps weapon balancing to VR then everything would fix itself.

oh no i sure hope nobody beats me down and completely dominates me in pavlov next week that would be awful haha

>>506003505
oh I've already uninstalled them both
I just play vr mods now

>>506004160
They would still be able to kill just by spraying in the general direction of the enemy.
They are gay as fuck. Just remove them.

This is one of the reasons WW2 is so much better than normal pavlov.

>>506004160
i liked the weapon balancing of the classes in the push mode we played
everything was so shit that if you didn't go single fire then the recoil would get so bad you wouldnt hit anything except in tight spaces

>>506003747
This isn't quite true. The "5x the kills of everyone else" fags did that from the moment they started, it wasn't a gradual skill increase. They were among the first to quit because they play games exclusively to see bigger numbers and when they plateaued almost immediately they had nothing else to do.

But seriously, what automatic weapons add to the quality of the game?
I can't think of any argument.

>>506004160
Pavlov used to have extremely high random spread and the game was essentially oneshot someone in the head with an AK or waste your money on some shit that won't kill with an entire magazine. That's the main reason no-one played it for the first year.

>>506004521
more bullet

>>506004286
pokemon manga panel btw (not a doujin)

>>506000906
I've seen the view count, so I know people do actually check it.
Without much feedback on it here or much info from anons with headsets that I haven't used, there's not much I'd change for now anyways, and I do occasionally make minor updates for new games and headsets.
When I do get around to making some bigger updates, I'll ask for opinions from the thread again.

How bolt action should be balanced?
They obviously can't kill in a single shot to the body, but how much dmg should they do? 70? 51? 49?

>>506004160
Pavlov had slightly slower reloads at one point and everyone complained. When the mag insert animations were added they were initially twice as long as we have now.
It did feel kinda shit having the animation so disconnected but I can't think of a solution that doesn't devolve into waiting on a timer like Breachers.

>>506004549
So people just wanted call of duty then.

I enjoy pavlov with vrg

>>506004854
One way to slow it down is to require holding the trigger for X milliseconds to take out a new magazine.

I would love to see how Kar98-only 3-body-shots server would go.

>>506004786
maybe add a change log section/ last updated?

>>505998236
>>505998485
Virtual Desktop, and it's free if you just grab a referral code off someone when you set up the headset

Okey, here I go!
Wish me luck!

>>506005000
They certainly didn't want the combination of:
>6 dof aiming
>low resolution headsets
>highly random spread
>terrible serverside netcode
>low bodyshot damage
>armor eating damage before being destroyed but not for rifles
>multiple headshots to ping the helmet but not for rifles
With an MP5 you could stand 2 meters away, empty the magazine, have them turn around and kill you with a single AK headshot and see their health at 90% because of the various mechanics above.

>>505994071

>>506005008
RAGHHHHHHHHHHHHH A THOUSAND CURSES UPON YOU AND YOUR KIN YOU WILL ALL BURN IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY

>>506005430
Oh
Guess not

>>506005150
Probably the same players at the top of the scoreboard as usual. Bolt actions punish skill issues more than automatics.

>>506005986
But people at least wouldn't die instantly. They would have a chance to actually aim and shoot at least once.

>>506004854
what if reloading required actual precision ala h3/tabor instead of vague gestures

>b-b-but it's janky
die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>506006243
Reloading is not the only problem. 30-cartridge mags are too.

Assault rifles are gay and retarded.

>>506005232
Last updated date is always at the bottom of rentry pages, although there's no built in way to see changes.
A changelog just feels like unnecessary bloat to me for something like this, especially since I already think it's too long and wordy for most people to actually want to read all the way through. I did post changelogs in the thread a few times in the past when I made big updates to stuff in the OP, but I'm not sure I'd do a detailed one like those again.
I have a half finished draft that tried to reformat stuff and use lists of pros and cons but I never got around to cleaning it up, and I'd almost rather start from scratch when I get back around to that anyways.

>>506006243
H3VR is not suitably designed. Controllers are not as precise nor tactile as real hands, so there needs to be at least some leniency to not make it frustrating and unrealistically difficult. Contractors requires greater precision in all actions and that usually just devolves into a cycle of spawn > kill > die > repeat rarely reloading or using anything from your inventory because it is far too slow to do anything for the pace of the game.

Reloading is fine in Pavlov. Players regularly die due to badly timed reloads.

>>506006968
>Controllers are not as precise nor tactile as real hands, so there needs to be at least some leniency to not make it frustrating and unrealistically difficult.
Controllers not having any collision with gun is what fucks it up for me in h3.

>>506007872
That would be even worse because you'd have an unstoppable force interacting with the Unity physics engine. You already get a taste of that when the magazines starts flipping around the gun and violent oscillating instead of entering the magwell because the alignment was imperfect.

>>506008602
The hand shouldn't follow controller 1:1.
But I guess that's too advanced for a fat store-asset-using polish retard.
Revolver chamber rotating in one frame with 1 frame of extra latency on tracking. AAAAHHH, I hate that trash so much!

>>505994071

>>506009739
>>506008629
>>506008856
Can you please reply to yourself so I can chain-hide?
Thank you.

>>506010009
can you fuck off

>>506005575
>armor eating damage before being destroyed but not for rifles
Still the case on that one I reckon. At least when I last checked the default values for the AR they all have 100% armor pen so it's effectively pointless to buy any if you're fighting against them since there's virtually no bullet tagging in the game compared to cs.

>>506003747
drunk pavlov is a tradition that goes back to 2018
ryder is very nostalgia oriented and tries to keep it alive

>>506010165
nta but why be a faggot about it
at least asked politely

>>506010165
I asked nicely. I just don't want to see it.

>>506010009
Kill yourself

>>506009739
>>506009739
/VRChat_2024-12-1(3|4)?/i;op:no;boards:vg
faggot

>>506010571
seethin trannoid

>lashing out because people don't want to see your faggy screenshots of the same people that everyone sees all the time anyways
utter brainrot

>>506010586
I don't want to hide every vrchat screenshot.

>>506010731
What's utter brainrot is being a miserable fuck trying to dictate what is and isn't allowed to be posted to the thread when it's all VR related.
You are unironically the cancer killing this general.

>>506010586
>>506009739
This one is gonna clear tomorrow but you can permanently disable by just removing any dates.
/VRChat_?/i;op:no;boards:vg
>>506010678
>>506010731
Which timezone are you I'll write you a timed filter. Beware we have an event tomorrow so you might want to just use the previous one for 2 days.

>>506010894
Nobody is asking you to stop posting, you autistic fuck.
Just reply to yourself, so people who want can hide it in one click instead of clicking individually.
You are such a fucking faggot, wow.

>>506011059
I'm not even in that instance retard. I hope he continues to post without quoting himself just so you can spend the extra 3 seconds hiding it and seething and shitting yourself.

>can you please quote yourself during dumping?
>KILL YOURSELF I HATE YOU, USE THIS FILTER BUT REMOVE IT LATER IF YOU WANT IT SO MUCH
Unironically unhinged.

Those dudes don't even use the thread anyway. It's all through the shitcord.

>>506010756
>>506010945
Your timezone doesn't matter its whoever took the pic. So you might want to disable until end of sunday which would be these three dates:
/VRChat_2024-12-1(3|4|5)/i;op:no;boards:vg

>>506010894
I'm not even the person who asked you to reply to yourself, I just think autists who spam screenshots of themselves and their friends to fill in for a hollow IRL social life are obnoxious as fuck
keep seething

>>506010945
>Which timezone are you I'll write you a timed filter.
I don't even post here regularly I just had a question that got ignored

and people wonder why the thread is dying and everyone is moving to a different board lol
nothing but a bunch of miserable people left here.

>>506011373
>We should use the thread for everything!
...
>>506011274

>>506011574
>you're miserable because you don't want to look at a bunch of grown men playing anime characters and jerking off with each other
if I wanted to do that I would just get on vrchat with you lol

>>506011574
Which board?

>>506010170
The last two points are still true. The first three shots on the MP5 do 2 damage each and it takes four shots to remove the helmet. It's a waste of money now, but imagine the damage being halved, the bullets coming out at 30 degree angles, the hitbox being two meters away from the player model, and hundreds of milliseconds of desync between clients. It was a noobtrap on a completely different level.

>>506011574
this. if you start hating on vrc users when we're literally carrying this shit thread then you can just go rot by yourself

>>506011723
/trash/ so they can erp with each other unfettered (not joking)

>>506011737
I tried it a few times and for the mp5 specifically it's like 10 bodyshots to kill someone which just doesn't work. In CS it's still kinda poo but then you have the MP9 which is amazing for its price and you can run and gun with it.
I tried hipfiring in pavlov but its like the game wont let me and my gun would always tilt down. Really weird designs. I'm starting to think the game has too much tech debt to be fixeable.

>>506011756
>if you start hating on vrc users
Hey, faggot, how about you read the whole interaction?
They were asked nicely to just quote himself while dumping, not to stop posting, just to quote and they all collectively had a meltdown.
To stay alive the thread doesn't need these unironically mentally ill individuals who just want to be an eyesore. If anything it would be better without them.

Guys ISHYGGDT and bite on bait trying to divide the thread between vrc and non-vrc users. It’s blatantly obvious some guy is playing both sides

>>506012235
yeah man there's no way anybody else is tired of seeing your vrc retards avatarfagging and spamming shit that nobody but you cares about

>>506012235
>It’s blatantly obvious some guy is playing both sides
Nah. The dumper is obviously an obnoxious faggot too. It's not falseflagging.

>>506012314
YEAH, BUT HAVE YOU SEEN THAT WE'RE WATCHING THAT GAY-ASS SOCCER EVENT?????

>>506011893
Not into erp but it has been tempting to join those instances to watch

>>506012458
didn't ask nor do I care

>>506010009
>>506010258
>>506010386
>>506010756
>>506010731
>>506010894
>>506011518
/VRChat_2024-12-1(3|4|5)/i;op:no;boards:vg
It also excludes the ops if anyone used the pic in the future it won't be hidden.

>>506012235
here's this for your autistic samefag theory too, retard

>>506012717
Are you retarded? Don't answer that, it's a rhetorical question.

>>506012235
sadly this is the state of this general now, with the only people left whining about the only thing keeping it alive.

>>506012861
>with the only people left whining about the only thing keeping it alive
I promise you if every vrchat social reject fucked off, the general would find a way to stay alive
I implore you all to go somewhere else, even

>>506013004
you know what's crazy is that already happened, it was called /vrgg/ and it died after several months.

>>506013126
NTA, but it wasn't the main thread, so that's not an argument.

>>506012831
I think anon was just flexing his regex autism

>>506012090
The guns shouldn't ever recoil downwards. That's either a virtual stock issue or the controller haptics causing loss of tracking. Mine would violently rotate to the left before I disabled all vibrations.

>>506013228
cope

>>506013374
Nobody would care if you fucked off to /trash/ forever. Sorry to break it to you.

>>506013541
>fucked off to /trash/ forever
this is the best option
the vrchat social rejects and autists that are too scared to speak on a microphone can have their erp and hugbox sessions while normal people just talk about vr games
it's a win/win really

>splitfagging again
The only successful attempt at splitting the thread was the creation of the trash thread. It didn't act as a containment for vrc posts or retarded dramafaggotry.
As always the answer is to make good posts and not reply to bad ones. Crying is a bad post. Now either out yourself as being a faggot by crying in response to this post or post something on topic and worth reading. YOU make the thread what it is and are in charge of its content.

>>506013328
>controller haptics causing loss of tracking
What headset? This happened to Rift S due to lack of USB bandwidth and Quest 2 due to a SteamVR bug in the past so I'm curious how many other headsets have similar problems.

Nobody is splitfagging, it's just the uppity faggots saying "you need me, so I'm going to act like an absolute cunt to you for no reason at all!".

>>506013915
Index. I think it's a problem on the software level because I never noticed it in any other game.

>>506013840
that's the point though, if they all fucked off to /trash/ it would be contained
they can do all their retarded bullshit there and keep it amongst each other instead of annoying the regular people that just want to play video gams

>>506013541
I care. I love my fellow VR posters who post screenshots from within VR games like VRchat

>>506012457
Nobody cares jelly soccer is based

>>506014338
Being annoying is the point. This whole interaction proves it.

>>506014467
what the fuck does that even mean?

>>506014090
What a retarded angle of attempting a split drama with. Are you trying to smear all of vrc users as that single guy who is most likely (You) as well? The guy having a fit is probably not the same guy posting the vrc pictures even.

i cant wait to see all my vr friends tonight!

>>506014380
Unhinged retards who can't coexist in peace can fuck off. They wouldn't be missed.

>>506014635
>just ignore the guy shitting on the street repeatedly and walk around it!
retard

>>506014628
You just like to stare at your friend’s Avatar’s boobs!

>>506014626
>the guy having a fit is probably not the same guy posting the vrc pictures even.
He is one of them. His first confirmed reply was "Faggot", then he started the autistic filter posting.

>>506013328
Tried most of the guns vs bots and you can't go fullspeed if your barrel is pointing anywhere near the center so hipfiring is limited to normal speed at best. Kills any interest in using pistols or smgs if even mobility isnt on your side.

this all started because someone politely asked a vrctard to reply to himself and said vrctard had a meltie
but sure it's everyone else's fault

>>506014773
Staring is rude anon.

>>506014758
I have no problems with them if they act nicely and poo in the loo.
Anyone can easily click one button to hide the screenshot dumping.

>>506014931
>Anyone can easily click one button to hide the screenshot dumping.
the original anon politely asked the spammer to reply to himself specifically for this reason and then he started spazzing
quit being retarded

>>506014628
I can't wait to play the new tacticool assault VR map next week.

>>506015113
noooooo you cant just do thaaaaat!!!

>>506015028
I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with them if they acted nicely, neither anyone else should. But in this particular situation they didn't.
We are not disagreeing right now, don't lash at me.

>>506014804
Yeah, there's a movement penalty if you fire or point your barrel too far away from straight down. There is a low ready position you can use that will allow full speed movement and a fast transition in to aiming. Fag gliding around and artificial turning with their perfectly stabilized vstock would be absolutely cancerous without it.

>>506015152
Saw this earlier and I'm really excited about it. Hopefully they pick up the pace with the updates.

>>506015113
based

>>506015321
I just want TVRCD, I'm getting lost in my zealotry

>>506015282
It's a different poster. Check the screenshot resolution.
This is exactly why the autistic filter "solution" wouldn't work.

*furiously pushes u against the wall and we start passionately making out. i feel suddenly self conscious about whether or not my breath smells bad*

>>506015563
300lb hands typed this

>>506015486
oh you poor thing you must be losing your mind right now.

>>506015486
nooooo you cant just reply seriously!!!!

>>506015343
I'd rather have no sprint and base movement speeds based on what you're holding instead. It's just feels like a bunch of archaic designs to mimic cod rather than a proper game. Original argument was "what's the point when everyone uses an assault rifle" and I hope you can see how it all ties into it.

>>506015610
What do you mean? I have no problem with him, but if he starts dumping, he should reply to himself. That's it.

>>506015596
we're all petite vr anime girls (6'3" 300lbs) here

gosh I wonder what's happening here
how could anyone not like vrchat posters?

>>506015702
Holding a knife to run is one of the most archaic FPS workarounds.

nooo!!! ignore the fags and argue about compression instead!!

>>506015762
you really are losing your mind right now.

>relative timestamps
100%-accurate braindead retard red flag. Same as having windows search bar visible.

>>506015847
oh yeah, I'm having a meltdown you miserable fuck trying to dictate what is and isn't allowed to be posted to the thread when it's all VR related.
You are unironically the cancer killing this general.

>>506015812
Okay but what about holding a SMG then? Right now it's sprint > peak into a corner at full speed abusing lag and then bring up the sight up in 0.1s and I don't like it and literally every vrfps does it.

>>506015823
this but unironically
this is a compressionlet distraction tactic

>>506015951
>dictate what is and isn't allowed to be posted to the thread when it's all VR related.
Are these people in the room with us right now? I can't see anyone like that here.

Wow japanese fans are vocal about the new chapter and they are not happy. Theyre discontented with the way eren's character is going and the whole genocide. I guess they were holding out hope for a lelouch route. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the chapter changed. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.

>>506016073
I'm quoting (You) or your retarded friend :^) >>506010894

>>506015823
>>506016010
We kinda hit the roadblock because nobody want to run the exe.
So far compressionlets are winning right now.

>>506016193
No, you are completely insane. Asking nicely to quote your own posts is not the same as asking someone to stop posting.
Sorry that you take people not being interested in your screenshots as a personal insult, but that's a (You) problem. Seek medical help.

>>506016219
>objectively worse image quality and delay
>winning

>>506016147
Also wrong thread

>>506015973
Personally I'd like armswinger movement to sprint but I know the majority of players would not play at all if it were the case. I don't like artificial turning either but you have to make compromises when it's barely possible to get 5% of a VR community to play at all.

>>506016421
Proven to be a dev issue >>505980074
Even if you add a whole frame of latency to the Q2, the latency and picture quality would still be acceptable.
We are gimped by garbage wifi speeds and lack of properly implemented foveated rendering.
Mostly by garbage wifi speeds.

>>505997905
kino

ofcourse i had to miss it

>>506018075
>Proven to be a dev issue
youre a retard. relative to each other all tests are comparable still. All tests just have one frame longer delay

>>506018410
I expect it will be attempted again. Even with 8 players those small maps were playable. I'd suggest skipping after the side swap though. An entire hour on the same map is too much.

>>506018075
the q2 is tested by a completely different software stack and just shows the minimal delay possible, but nobody is using it like that, everyone is playing using through steamvr and not oculus runtime, with bare c openxr applications.

>>506018786
No, you are.
We know the headsets can be low latency, good picture quality and wireless.
I'm wasn't talking about the creator of the map.

>>506019030
>nobody is using it like that
I run plenty of native OXR games

>>506019030
Still 42ms with virtual desktop.
Before, people were saying good latencies are literally impossible for wireless.
The 90ms+ results are clearly a software issue somewhere.

>>506019030
>everyone is playing using through steamvr
Only for VRChat. For VR games it's common knowledge to use OpenXR, the Oculus runtime or VDXR for performance and it's rare to find a game that forces OpenVR these days.

>>506019603
I don't know of a recent game that supports oculus runtime. Everything that comes out these days is OpenXR and you'd have to be a dumbass to use SteamVR for OpenXR with either Quest Link or VD

>>506019246
>>506019246
its not one computer, not one type of wireless app, not one hmd. its a realistic use case, vs minimal example

>>506020145
But that change that it's still a skill issue/user error.

>>506020285
that doesn't change*

>>506020285
its not

>>506020576
why not?

>>506020783
Because the test shows still a realistic situation of a real game, even though there is one frame delay, the relative performance is still relevant. And the error was trivial to correct.

Also the proprietary openxr test app has the most trivial scene to encode - a flat color. Encoder and encoder delay, which is dependant on bandwith and scene complexity is on the best case.

Also please note, that even with vrchat and pico connect, at low resolution and low bitrate over usb, you can get wireless pico delay to be the same as standalone pico. But as soon as scene complexity, bandwith and resolution goes up, so does the delay.

Terry still haven't made a noise version. And we still dont have a comparative wired hmd delay with his ultra basic application.

Disturbing the scheduled schizoposting to announce that Iron Rebellion will be attempted again tomorrow at 19:00 GMT.

>>505968670
Aha, I'm glad you asked actually. Cause there's a good reason why.
People have lives anon, at this point we've already established people use disc*rd, COVID is long gone and people have returned to their normal lifes. Whether you use it or not, you're more likely going to be opening it at work / away from home. Letting people know that /dance hours/ are happening and posting it everywhere isn't bad as long as you can keep the ones that only use disc*rd out That's why I use door codes and tell people to add me in here, it's worked pretty good so far. I mean Y took that idea too.
If anything I do a pretty good job at still using this thread, but you wouldn't know that, I don't like avatarfagging but don't bash on it like this elitist thread does.

Still, I would've wished after six years it wasn't still the same dudes running the same thing but if I quit who's going to continue? I have way less time due to life, but as long as there's a single (You) here expressing they wish to dance, we will continue dancing till the very end. Probably.

Once again fellas, the code to the door is 7850.
And be nicer to people in here, fucking Yubu out of everyone activelyposts on trash now. That damn prude!

>>506019603
>Only for VRChat. For VR games it's common knowledge to use OpenXR,
if only
so many games still use OpenVR because that's what they started with and thus I'm stuck with OpenComposite jank inside of them rather than just running Monado only for OpenXR

>>506021405
>And the error was trivial to correct.
I didn't mean the error in the test, but 90ms+ results.
They are not representative of a properly configured systems. Twice the latency? Come on.
>Also the proprietary openxr test app has the most trivial scene to encode - a flat color.
It's not widely different unless Oculus Debug started lying just for the complex scene >>505874578 (Cross-thread) , but yeah, not confirmed until we count the frames.
>And we still dont have a comparative wired hmd delay with his ultra basic application
What's stopping you for measuring? You can do pico and index, right?

>>506022112
>for
from*

ATTN: Terry Davis-anon
could you kindly do the needful and reupload your latest precompiled executable so I can run tests with it?
would love for the md5 to be provided alongside a rescan for vulnerabilities showing the same md5

>>506022112
You can do the scan yourself. It's the same archive.
https://files.catbox.moe/ewvl2l.zip

I will finish the noise version by tomorrow, I was procrastinating too much today.

>>506022282
>>506022553
Quoted the wrong post again.

>>506022282
>md5
It's sha256. Nobody uses md5 for a long time already.

>>506022769
sorry Terry-kun but I don't see any hashes in the pictures provided by the prior scans: >>505732669 (Cross-thread) >>505731670 (Cross-thread)
>>506022960
i don't care what you provide as long as something matches the scans
neither md5sum nor shasum matches anything visible

>>506022112
>They are not representative of a properly configured systems. Twice the latency? Come on.
cope

>>506022112
>complex scene
that is not complex

>>506022112
upload the source code already

Vox Machinae starting soon. Join Mecha Friday lobby. Password will be 1984. Also the game is on sale fo 50% off right now.

>>506023114
It's on the screenshot under the "1/72 security vendor flagged this file..."
sha256: 82249673f1c376dc14d68bf4c80d3fbdae02c7ba194ddeeec64b4c829243be9e

You can check the time of the first scan in the details.
https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/82249673f1c376dc14d68bf4c80d3fbdae02c7ba194ddeeec64b4c829243be9e

>neither md5sum nor shasum matches anything visible
7zip has the option to check the hashes.
Or you can open cmd and type "certutil -hashfile "OpenXR Latency Tester.exe" SHA256", don't forget to change the current directory or type the full path to the file.

It's mahjong time. https://vrch.at/79tj42tj

>>506023301
As far as encoder is concerned it is.
Bitrate annihilation spells just needs a lot of moving parts.

>>506024238
no, it needs high spatial frequency textures which change /move

>>505959807
still waiting for him to show me the very special digital compression artefacts that look like analog grain

>>506024342
Textures are not needed.
Snow particles or grass will work just as well.

>>506024238
ok, its similar, but depends how big are they, and how chaotic they move

>>506024090
sorry Terry but please understand that I was looking for hashes of the zip before I extracted it or touched it with an archive tool
>7zip
>cmd
I do not have these tools on Linux and Xarchiver does not show hashes in its GUI
you're right though the sha256 does match the exe when unpacked
I'll see how things look when I get time after doing some work-related things but I mainly want to use this to compare Monado against OpenComposite with my existing results

>>506024210
fuck you

>>506023730
Password is 123456

Not sure so far about some of the stuff posted here I will lurk some more I guess.
But the anon who recommended outer wilds been quite an experience so far.
I dropped it when I was playing in flat mode but holy shit vr really can make the difference for how a game feels.
Gonna try HL2VR next it has to be game of the century considering anon said Alyx wasn't even good.

Oh and I got a question I saw my friend had 10k hours on vrchat???
Is this normal? None of his other vr games have anywhere near that playtime.
I really don't understand what you could possible being doing to get those so high.

>>506024879
if you like space games you could also try Elite: Dangerous

>>506024879
hang out with friends evry day for 7 years

>>506024642

>>506024552
>please understand that I was looking for hashes of the zip before I extracted it or touched it with an archive tool
I don't think we have them saved.
When someone scanned the link, it did not produce it.
I thought you are on windows, but yeah, sha256sum should do the trick. I use linux on my server myself, no problem with that.

>>506024090
just POST THE SOURCE CODE

>>506024879
>10k hours on vrchat
they "sleep" in VRC

>>506025253
Sorry, it will take too long to remove all the n-words from the comments and names of the variables. It's 15k lines of raw vulkan and openxr, custom memory allocators etc. Please understand.
And you wouldn't be able to compile anyway.

>>506023730
not Iron Rebellion? why?

>>506024879
>Oh and I got a question I saw my friend had 10k hours on vrchat???
There are some people (here as well) that leave vrchat running in desktop mode and just go to bed or something. Why? Beats me.
Funny enough that those are the people who usually always record every VR session they have.

>>506024937
Outer wilds is a space game so ill put it on the list
>>506024972
that be like 4 hours every day thats crazy
>>506025520
this makes a lot more sense but idk how anyone could sleep with a brick and a phone attached to their face
>>506025962
Huh?!? but why and also youd need like a full server rack to contain all those recordings

>>506025595
no, post it, then we talk about it being compileable.

>15k lines in a few hours while shitposting
Yeaaa,sure. You're sounding fishy again.
JUST
FUCKING
POST
IT
who cares about nigger variables, post it as a tarball on catbox

>>506026162
>Huh?!? but why and also youd need like a full server rack to contain all those recordings
like I said, I don't understand those people

>>506025595
It shouldn't be hard to delete 14,900 lines of the word nigger anon. Leave it in.

>>506024552
Oh, and btw, if you have any issues with running it under wine, post them, I should be able to help.

>>506026445
>>15k lines in a few hours while shitposting
I customized my old code for personal use. If you ever rendered even a single triangle with vulkan without using any frameworks, you would know there are simply a lot of lines.
OpenXR is similar in that regard.
Now add to that the types and all the wrappers over winapi.

>>506026918
thenpost it, nobody cares if its clean

In my opinion Terry-anon shouldn't post the source code. It makes the right people seethe and I like seeing that.

>>506027181
Not training OpenAI's LLM's with my code. Sorry.
It's of no benefit to anyone else.

If you have questions about some particular specifics of implementation, I can answer though.

>>506027710
this is not trust establishing stance

>>506028045
Providing source doesn't establish trust.
Even if you bother reading through everything, you only need just a couple of carefully crafted bugs to create a backdoor.

>>506028292
providing source code is the minimal requirement to establish trust

>>506028443
I think antivirus company manually checking the exe and saying it is safe is good enough to establish trust.

>>506028623
lol, lmao

>>506028623
Why do you think people are so keen on getting their hands on your source code?
Is it good or something?

>>506026918
it ran under proton experimental
running many tests is a bit annoying with the reset procedure compared to the vrc map but I am currently counting frames for a monado test and will do the same for the steamvr test and compare against what I've collected so far

>>506029484
swapchainImageCount shouldn't matter, it's a redundant code for the normal flat window, openxr relies on some objects in that codepath, but the window is destroyed right away.
But I still wonder what the actual number is. The input latency could suffer if it buffers too much. But that's a flatshit issue, not relevant for our test.

>>506029484
lmao at "Vulkan API MAX 1023.1023.1023" btw.
Someone just didn't give a fuck.

>>506030379
yea the swapchain is also massive compared to SteamVR's

>>506030547
>>506029484
Can you post the console output a bit further?
I'm curious about the resolution of the views.

>>506030547
And does the sound work on linux?
You should hear a coin sound every time you press the start test button.

>>506031604
>And does the sound work on linux?
it did
steamvr was weird where it would basically turn off the view every test so I had to wake up the hmd to redo each round
monado didn't behave this way

>>506031680
Check the console out. What is the last session state?

>>506031834
im counting frames not running it at the moment
it took so long between tests that I only get a few tests compared to the vrc map in the same timespan

>>506031924
Most likely it's the sensor on the headset, forgot the name, you know the one that checks if the user is currently wearing the headset.
Try to cover it up next time
Monado doesn't change the session state properly or you set it to ignore the sensor.

>>506032209
>forgot the name
Proximity sensor, I remembered.

>>506032365
I had the prox sensor constantly activated in the same manner with both runtimes the same way I did it for the VRC map to keep it awake:
a cloth stuffed under it

>>506024210
mahjong still mahjonging

>>506032534
Hmm, maybe sleepmode is too aggressive in steamvr.
Need to see the session state change log, should be in the console, screenshot it when you can.

>>506032694
im not planning to run another test at the moment or plug my hmd back in since its back on my shelf for now, just wanted to run quick tests to get a quick idea of how things compared to VRChat running on SteamVR/Moando+OpenComposite via OpenVR versus OpenXR
there's a bit of confusion with adjusting for the vrc map polling position a bit late but at a glance with the small counts of data (4 tests under monado, 3 under steamvr) it seems faster

>>506033217
SteamVR: 33.3 vs 41.7
Monado: 45.8 (yikes) vs 61.1

Those are map version last moment update, right?

>>506033542
that's without accounting for the late position update yea

>>506033656
So best case scenario it's -11.11ms?
SteamVR would be slightly faster?
Or did you mean "with"?

>>506033863
vrc map man is submitting an updated version using PostLateUpdate() rather than Update() so that can be used to retest a bit and see if that was adding a frame or whatnot

>>506034025
The fixed final version basically? Alright.
Monado latency don't make sense.

>>506034173
i think monado is doing something funky
i dont have it set up on windows to compare how it runs there versus linux and havent run windows steamvr tests to compare that either yet

>>506034291
But what exactly. I don't see a pattern.

SteamVR delta 8.4
Monado delta 15.3

41.7 / 33.3 = ~1.25
61.1 / 45.8 = ~1.334

>>506034469
i mean on vrchat monado+opencomposite is behind steamvr by 20ms from earlier tests

>>506034753
The relationship is non-linear.
It's really weird. What are they doing?

Which API vrchat uses?
Maybe OpenXR is just less inefficient for monado?

>>506035208
well steamvr might actually be even faster on average but I didnt get a lot of tests in
would be good to redo it later but the lowest result was 6 frames highest was 10 in 3 tests
i would almost just assume its a 20ms lead here as well and just a monado problem overall

>>506035457
VRChat uses OpenVR
OpenXR is generally better and would allow Monado to run by itself and not need to run on top of OpenComposite

I want to see 144hz index on windows now.

>>506023730
Good voxing voxers.

>>506025856
I don't own it yet. Is it good?

Wait I'm getting confused. Why results for BB Linux SteamVR is different between >>505980074 and >>506033217 ?
I thought both are corrected using the PostLateUpdate()?

>>506036071
his updated his sheet to account for the positional update being late
the one I posted in >>506033217 is just where I've been putting my tests to compare amongst themselves since its my system and is not using whatever correction method is in the new sheet
I can use the new one but am just lazy at the moment, map man is doing his own retest with the updated map as well

>>506036272
Oh, that means it's uncorrected data.
So it's 33.3 (OpenXR direct) vs 30.56 (VRChat fixed). Is this really the case? Or is the data in >>505980074 just estimation?
How can vrchat be faster?

>>506036616
>just estimation?
I believe its estimated corrections based on the refresh rates of the headsets and removing 1 frame?
not sure myself but that's just a guess based on what I read earlier

Soccer instance up
https://vrch.at/9aacs5mg

From this point on let's call map which uses PostLateUpdate() VRC Map v2 .
And only real data counted from frames in the graphs please, no estimations. This is getting very confusing.

Syoccer is now join kizzy

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Don't forget to get in early before you miss a slot, this ones gonna be a banger!
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>>506036616
The >>505980074 correction is estimation, assuming that in update I get one frame old positional data. But it doesn't seem fully the case.
I did get slight reduction of delays, but not a full frame.

>>506038356
y-yaaay

>>506038356
No more estimations in the graphs please.

>>506038590
>postlateupdate
Just call it "Map v2"

>>506039515
idk why but the postlateupdate increased my bsb linux steamvr latency results by 20ms

>>506039626
what the fuck

>>506039752
it might be linux steamvr photon offset issues with rdna3 that didn't really create much of a gap in my previous test
i'll have to rerun it sometime with and without a script I have to force the offset to 8 and see if I get the same results later

>linux and amd while using vr
Why are you doing this to yourself?

>>506040078
because I hate Windows
AMD (with a kernel patch) is also the only way to run a BSB on Linux currently so Nvidia isn't even in the running until they get around to fixing their DSC implementation

Terry, you fucking retard, you didn't add 10% safety margin for the calibration value, the controller motion detection goes off on it's own even when controller is undisturbed, if it was very still.

>>506040226
Oops.

>>506040226
Can you post the "Required Move" value from the console btw?

Anyway, why your controller position is so noisy?
On quest it was always 0.0000, so I forgot.

>>506040559
it was equal to calibration value, I didn't screenshot it.

The worst part, that my cable if fucking dying since yesterday and I need to restart my vive pro 2 many times until it starts.

>>506040706
Because quest tracks the controller right under its nose and does some smoothing, on lighthouse it's tracking across the room with 0.2-0.5 mm per frame jitter at worst case

>>506040715
If you do tests, please screenshot the console output!
It helps. A lot!

Wish Spheri a happy 30th birthday everyone!

>>506040852
>does some smoothing
It is actually pretty sensitive still.

>>506040861
And you do the vrchat benchmark

>>506040852
>0.2-0.5 mm per frame jitter at worst case
The jitter must be bigger.
If the jitter radius is less than 0.5mm, it sets the required move to 0.5mm.

>>506040938
door code is 1488

>>506040715
>The worst part, that my cable if fucking dying
Wireless sucks btw.