/vrgg/ - Virtual Reality Gaming General #38

there are still no upcoming VR games to look forward to

>Family members said the boy was intelligent and manipulative, and said no relative would agree to babysit him. The boy’s sister said he’d had “rage issues” his entire life. When he was four, his his mother’s sister said, he picked up his puppy by the tail and swung it around until it howled in pain. His mother eventually gave the dog away. Six months before the shooting, his sister said, he had filled a balloon with flammable liquid and set it on fire, causing an explosion that burned furniture in the house. She told police that when her mom asked the boy why he did it, he claimed “he has five different imaginary people that talk to him”: two sisters, an old man, an old woman, and a guy who is mean to him who he doesn’t like talking to.
>The boy had been seeing a therapist and had been given a “concerning diagnosis,” his sister told police. His mother was receiving daily updates on his behavior in school and had put up cameras in the house to monitor him. Two weeks before the shooting, she told the boy’s sister someone had unplugged the cameras.
>The morning after the shooting, the boy logged onto his dead mother’s Amazon account and ordered an Oculus Virtual Reality Headset. The aunt said that when he saw his grandmother crying later that day, he said, “I’m really sorry for what happened. I’m sorry for killing my mom,” then asked if his Amazon package had arrived.

i'm looking forward anon's game

>>409326271

>>409327047
I am now also looking forward to anon's game

>>409325145
>he picked up his puppy by the tail and swung it around until it howled in pain. His mother eventually gave the dog away
animal abuse = dead giveaway of a killer, but what can you do if your kid behaves such behaviour?

>>409328580
>what can you do if your kid behaves such behaviour?
send him to russia

>>409328580
>but what can you do if your kid behaves such behaviour
displays**

>>409328580
>but what can you do if your kid behaves such behaviour?
put him down
psychopaths have defective brains, it just doesn't work properly, there is nothing you can do

>>409328802
go hit the griddy for ukraine in /vrg/, /pol/nigger

Today I smoothed out a float that acts like a boolean because I am too dumb for real finger tracking.

float thumbSmoothed()
{
thumbNext = (thumbAnimationAction.action.ReadValue<float>()-0.5f) * 0.2f;
if (!(thumbAverage + thumbNext < 0) && !(thumbAverage + thumbNext > 1.0f))
{
thumbAverage += thumbNext;
}
return thumbAverage;
}

Also, I am not: >>409327047

>>409328580
military camp + religion

>>409329539
>Also, I am not: >>409327047
Who asked, nigger?
Don't get too uppity.

>>409328926
Some psychos channel their brain deformity to be a from all perspectives betterment for society like the occasional psycho male nurse

>>409329671
To reduce confusion.

>>409329842
No need for that. It's the path to identity-fagging, and we don't want to go there.

>>409325134
What about Anon's game?

>>409329539
so what will anon's game be about, anon?

>>409327047

>>409329758
no they dont. functional people with anti social behavior are in fiannce and politics, non functional in jail or a grave

>>409329579
>military camp + religion
Isnt this literally what they tried to do with Dahmer?

>>409327047
what is this?

>>409325134
I just entirely use my headset for Skyrim mods at this point. I spend hours banging my loli daughter-wives in between playing whatever new quest mods /tesg/ hypes up. It helps that the game keeps getting better with new VR mods like the immersive crafting one.

>>409333156
Are the sex mods just animation loops like every other garbage H game?

It's out.
Anyone tried it?

>>409330814
I'm still figuring out basics, so I'm not at the stage of making a game yet.

>>409334093
Halfway. You can physically grab and manipulate NPCs. Your upper body is never controlled by animations. However your lower body is usually controlled by a looping animation and the NPC outside of how you are influencing them is going to be looping. If you really want full immersion get some Vive trackers and >>409334443

>>409334093
I continue to regret not saving that webm of some guy grabbing a female NPC, ripping off her clothes and then impaling her floppy physics body on his dick before launching a passing guard down the street.

page 10

it's over.

just let it happen already

>>409351435
no, i don't want you whiny women in the main thread

>>409327047
absolutely beautiful and macrophilia pilled

page 10

>>409334443
I'm curious about the performance, I downloaded a build from F95 months ago and it ran like shit

>>409331691
>"functional"


Nah fuck off, we don't need more of them controlling society. Most CEOs are psychopaths and it shows. Corporations are corrupt and do the most fucked up things with no consequences. There are no good psychopaths and unironically the only type of mental illness that should be put to death for the sake of humanity. It's like trying to rehabilitate a rabies infected dog, no point.

>>409370721
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

>>409325134
I'm looking forward to Firmament.

>>409332192
yeah, he raped 2 dudes while he was serving i'm pretty sure.

in my opinion once kids start developing this behaviour they're already long gone, they should be assessed by a professional and when the results show they're beyond saving they should just be shot in the back of the head. painless because they don't exactly deserve it, but keeping them alive in this world is only going to be dangerous for others.

>>409375151
they will finish Riven remaster first

>>409334443
Did they improve the UI or is it still a massive mess?
>>409380324
I wonder if the Rivan remaster will have VR like the latest version of Myst?

What's a good standalone pico 4 game to show people who never tried VR before? I've been using it exclusively as PCVR device so far.
For quest 2 my go-to's were always beat saber and pistol whip

>>409334443
But it's been out for ages?

what game are they playing?

>>409389161
probably some military training simulator, question is, are they on treadmills or do they have to move using controller sticks just like we do

>>409389161
>this headset position
Not playing anything, screen is turned off for making propaganda photo
Then it will be stashed away for years

>>409389253
neither
they have backpacks and are tracked, there are tons of videos out there and seem thing if you go to VR arcades
https://youtu.be/QGxlrc1Gx9Q?t=151

>>409389334
I wouldn't be surprised if they intentionally positioned it like that to 'show the face better' or something retarded.

>>409389161
They're playing propaganda photoshoot. Write a report saying how the VR training helped become cutting edge, take some photos, then put the headsets away and never actually do the training but definitely pocket the money they send for headsets.

New vapourware devlog:
https://youtu.be/BE7WKL_wbNs

>>409374472
>but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
okay, cuck.

>>409398784
>taking apart the gun
it's cool but what's the point? why would you want to take out a part? can you upgrade parts with different stats? game looks realistic so i don't think they'd add something "gamey" like that, so why?

why do every vr dev keeps implementing these useless gimmicks that do not serve the gameplay at all?

>>409389161
Pavlov VR

>>409399504
>why do every vr dev keeps implementing these useless gimmicks that do not serve the gameplay at all?
because they're easier to implement than actual gameplay improvements?

>>409399504
wifi box? I already have a wife I box

wrong thread but I'm keeping it up

>>409399504
Yes, there are different parts. It even shows it in the video. You'll probably have to clean and replace parts in the gun, too.

>>409399187
I hope you are one day shot in the back of the head for the things you say here.

How many is too many?
>4 PMs, 1 SMG(not on picture)

>>409405658
>none of them are armored
>only baby weapons that barely hurt you
anon please

>>409405658
+1 (one) grenade, cooked to perfection
I cannot into grenades for my life

>>409398784
The gun autism is great, the features are neat, but where is the game? I hope this aint going to be a hard bullet wave shooter again.
Why do I get the feeling that the majority of indie devs in VR are currently more building a portfolio they either hope to sell to a bigger studio or get hired for bigger games, nobody is apparently making because every game is an early access tech demo, with a few exceptions

>>409413929
It's a survival game, judging by this video:
https://youtu.be/Sp3oGG-3mbA

This here is true soul.

>>409413929
Because they're often solo devs with no oversight so they will jump between tasks and create new ones because nobody is there to keep them focused. It takes a lot of planning and restraint to consistently work on the tasks that are boring or have no immediate payoff.

>>409415146
I still prefer that to getting the same game for the 200th time because everything has to follow the most profitable algorithm.

>>409417290
>for the 200th time because everything has to follow the most profitable algorithm.
Such as?
Braindead Directionless Techdemo is what everyone is doing. There is nothing else.

>>409414584
okay looks good. Hopefully the enemy ai is going to turn out okay and their is some story and progression

>Hopefully the enemy ai is going to turn out okay and their is some story and progression
you people never learn heh

>>409417806
Most made since 2007. Every single FPS is just CoD4's multiplayer grinding for unlocks with minor gimmick.

>>409419571
who cares about flatshit

>>409401035 (Cross-thread)
Contractors lobby details, because putting it in the VRchat is their preferred place.

>>409415145
>become freelance VA
>turning your nose up at any work, lewd or not

ngmi

>>409420406
It's how VR will end up if it ever gets popular too.

>>409420519
>if it ever gets popular too.
The way it is going right now, we don't need to worry about that.

>>409421019
Not while it's a facebrick that normalfags won't wear because they might look silly (while playing alone at home with no-one watching them).

Another VR bundle? This one feels a bit expensive though, but maybe it's worth it?

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/premier-vr

>>409425151
the only bundle you need

>>409420519
CoD4 in VR would be great.

>>409425151
It's worth it if you don't own those games. After the Fall and Vox best sale prices combined is more than £20.

>>409425151
Cave digger 2 looks like what township tale could have been.

>pavlov crashes on startup
>validating game files actually fixes it
I think that's the first time that has ever worked.

>friday night
>these are all the servers in the world
Dave... the update...

How do I get immersed into motion? when I move ingame not by walking, it still kinda feels like a video game. I played jet island, and while it was fun I didn't feel the exhilaration that going fast irl would give you. I also feel no motion sickness whatso ever if that helps.

Immersion is a meme. Embrace the video game feel.

>>409439265
For me VR is about the greater possibilities the controls and head tracking provide over flat games. A game can't really trick you into believing you're actually in a different reality.

>>409440465
do you think we will have suits that allow you to lean on virtual tables without falling over like a retard anytime soon?

>>409440816
No. I doubt that will ever be possible.

>>409439265
Many say pointing a fan at yourself increases immersion greatly in games like that.

>>409425151
2 vr bundles at the same time. what is happening?

>>409442968
hacks are desperate for money

>>409438971
dave displays servers with over 0 people as 0

>>409445958
*20 ppl

I was thinking of building a sex doll rig for vr. do any of you guys have one and can you post pics?

>>409377698
Basically this. I heard of like one case of a little psycho girl who was torturing her brother being fixed by being locked in a hospital with intensive therapy, but the resources just don't exist to do this wide-scale.

>>409446095
It's over 24 with 24 players still appearing if you show full servers. 25 will appear as zero, though.

I take back everything I said about vr being disapointing. playing Jet island with >>409441265 's advice and listening to playstation jungle is god tier.

>>409455742
The breeze of the wind on my sails

>>409328580
>but what can you do if your kid behaves such behaviour?
Society doesn't like to talk about it, but the truth is that the brain is defective from the start. It's got something to do with a combination of brain chemistry and personality type that dooms people from the start. Rarely do people ever go full nuclear because they were wronged at some point in their life. They usually exhibit psychopathic traits from the start.

What are y'all playing?

Lobby is open vrggolf

>>409425151
at least I don't own any of these this time but that price is steep. Don't know shit here aside from Vox though

is this THE virtamate? You don't have to get it from patreon anymore?

>>409463947
WOAH WOAH WOAH AWOOOOOOOGAAAA I GOTTA GET ME A VR SET NOW

don't die

but my wish is to die

>>409463947
I mean, yeah it is, but why would you want it?
I'm fairly sure that they consider 2.0 a new "game", so it will probably be back to the Patreon model for that and you'll be left with old VAM that no longer receives updates.
Just pirate it like everyone else.

>>409489271
>coom game as a service
>dropping obsolete version for full price in store
I hate Antichrist!

9 lifes thread

>>409489271
It's not even the 2.0 version on steam? I'm so glad I pirated this train wreck.

which games can i play online
without paying for them?

>>409497329
Breachers VR alpha
No need to join the Discord, you can download it from https://github.com/TriangleFactory/Breachers/releases

It is Contractors day! At 19pm UTC.

Maps and mods to download:

https://contractors.old.mod.io/peejohntest

https://contractors.old.mod.io/q-swgw-anchorhead
https://contractors.old.mod.io/swbf2deathstar1test
https://contractors.old.mod.io/coruscant-swb2c

https://contractors.old.mod.io/tf2-vr

https://contractors.old.mod.io/tf2-hightower
https://contractors.old.mod.io/tf2-hightower2
https://contractors.old.mod.io/tf2-well1

https://contractors.old.mod.io/warhammer40kloadout

https://contractors.old.mod.io/rats-yachtclub

Welcome back racer!
EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club, season 6!
Race 37.

19:00 UTC, 20:00 CET, Monday 5th of December!

We are now going to Suzuka circuit to drive one of the fastest racing cars in the world LMP1 prototypes!

1 hour practice
10 minutes qualifiers
18 lap race

Afterwards, we're taking hypercars to Shutoko Revival Project (the real one) on supercars, relax and speed to death.

mods:
https://mega.nz/folder/32JRiY5b#PtY8TeuWRUTU0pLLEv771Q
Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought Asseto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html and a mod installer (just drag and drop zip files from mega).

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

>>409500286
Arsetto Cocksa

>>409500286
Can I just come for SRP?

>TWD:S&S2 comes out on Quest 2
>PC version delayed to Feb
Ffs. It was the only VR game I was looking forward to this year. Despite devs confirming it's cross-buy on Meta store, I'm not going to play a downgraded version for the first playthrough.

>>409503706
yes, but postracing is not very long usually. practice is pretty laid back and fun though

>>409507387
Save an h-pattern car for me.

So what's good in this bundle?
https://www.humblebundle.com/games/black-friday-vr-voyagers-pack

>>409510292
Superhot, I Expect You To Die, Sairento

>>409510363
Thanks, would you say it's worth 12€?
I assume they're all fairly short games.

>>409510415
I'd pay 12 bucks for Superhot alone

>>409510292
Superhot, I Expect You to Die, Until you Fall. For $13ish you're not going to get them cheaper.

>>409510491
Thanks, I'll get it then

>>409510415
>I assume they're all fairly short games.
Superhot / I Expect you to Die both run around 3hrs, but they're fun without any filler, and Superhot has unlockable endless modes.

>>409328580
> but what can you do if your kid behaves such behaviour?
Get the belt worked for me.

>>409510618
>Superhot has unlockable endless modes
Or you could just never complete the last level because throwing in VR sucks half the time...

>>409510618
I had no fun with IEYTD
Shit puzzles

>>409511249
They're simple, but I had fun with it along with doing the speedrun challenges. Shame the sequel got the Quest nerfbat.

>>409324958 (OP)
When I saw that headline posted on /v/ without any picture or mention of race, I assumed it was a black.

>>409509976
we were going for supercars, but mabe something else instead

>>409504938
we can hope that they are putting the finishing touches on the pc version, right?

Vr porn games are kind of underwhelming. Sure you can GRAB their titties, but you cant FEEL the softness, and you cant FEEL your hand running across their tummy. sure while you can have a sex doll irl and line it up IRL, It wouldn't be ONE TO ONE. and you would have to take off the headset to move the doll after it changes poses. Do you guys have any SOLUTIONS to this conundrum?

>>409519515
>Do you guys have any SOLUTIONS to this conundrum?
getting laid

>>409521107
Getting LAID is for losers and NORMAL people. I want to FUCK anime woman and shark women which is IMPOSSIBLE in real life, but is close to possible in VR.

>>409519515
/ona/ anon is doing vr tracking for dolls(Koikatsu)
Sure it's expensive(doll+5 trackers), but it is ultimate solution for haptics

>>409510292
Sairento, Wizards, After the fall, shooty fruity
havent tried the other games yet, and superhot, maybe once I can aford a dedicated 10x10 play room

>>409521402
Is there a LINK to his work?

>>409521607
I seen his webms, but i never seen his github
Feel free to visit /ona/ thread on /jp/ and ask him out, surely he will answer in a day or two
I don't visit /ona/ often, but encountered his posts like half the time i checked it out this year(and i do it like once per 2 months)

>>409519391
Probably more that it's Holidays coming up, and the Quest version will outsell the PC release 30:1, so the focus was on polishing/finishing it first, even though it caused the PC release to slide.

>have social anxiety
>install vrchat
>go to a world
>speak
>several people make fun of my accent
>turn off vr chat
>uninstall
i fucking knew this would happen if i tried.. i knew it would and it would make my anxiety worse and i fucking did it anyway and now i feel like shit.
thats it i am never playing any vr multiplayer game again

>>409522883
You might try /vrg/ they can heklp with your transition

PSVR2 PRESS EVENT WHEN!?!?!?

>>409523435
>PSVR2
don't fucking talk to me about that shit
i am so angry
psvr is the only good new hmd that came out at great price and it's the only fucking one that isn't pcvr, what sort of cruel joke is that?

>>409519515
VaM has had vive tracker support for years

>>409522883
I still can't get over my accent despite playing VR for almost 2 years
I keep myself mute

Thinking of finally getting into VR.
Anyone know who makes the better lightguns?
Looking for something that has some kind of recoil mechanism and has realistic form factor(doesn't have to look like real guns, just feel like your holding one, don't care if it looks like a nerf gun)

>>409497954
>https://github.com/TriangleFactory/Breachers/releases
>quest only

>>409389161
they are controlling killer robots

>>409525956
>>409522883
I moved to another part of my country when I was young, got bullied for having a different accent and ended up mute in real life for years. To this day I can't bring myself to use a microphone online. I guess it's a really deeply ingrained defence mechanism in a context where I know I will be attacked.

>>409526141
A physical stock is probably as close as you're going to get.

>>409522883
I'm sorry anon, it was just friendly banter. I didn't mean anything by it. I wish you had stayed - I was hoping to add you.

ffaio ded, rookie sideloader several releases old, rutracker not updated, yaosvr shit releases
I guess pirating is half dead

>>409531020
unless you are a girl irl i don't care

>>409532834
Guess you'll never know :(

>>409526141
There's not really "lightguns" for VR, there's tubes you slide your controllers into to help stabilize two-handed weapons.
ProTube seems to be the only company that makes these with recoil and they also have a one-handed version. I heard the recoil can fuck you up in the long term as good or almost as good as a real gun's recoil.

>>409489271
>Just pirate it like everyone else.
Where?

>>409425151
this is a really solid bundle
does anyone have any experience with Cave Digger 2? only one I'm not familiar with

>>409425151
Did After the Fall get more than an hour's worth of content? Only one there I'd actually care for is Vox Machinae. Arizona I already own, and DOOM VFR is crap that Bethesda forgot about adding better VR support to.

>>409539190
ATF only got one new map, they tried to do something different with the boss, but still rather lackluster, only thing you can do is farm attachments, chipsets and skins for your guns and character

>>409539376
Sucks. I was expecting something that would at least be more than 1/4 of L4D's content.

>>409523571
sony products usually have big homebrew scenes so someone might take a jab at it but there's no way eye tracking and foveated rendering would translate over to pc. OLED is nice tho nevertheless

so one of the displays on my index is fucked. specifically the left one. Im under warranty and I already sent a support request.. but while I'm waiting for a new headset. How do I disable the left display so I can use it withoutout getting an eye full of bullshit?

>>409540536
Wear an eye patch.

>>409540951
If I had one I wouldn't have made that post anon.

>>409541823
There's no way. I remember someone with one eye trying to find out so they could save performance and couldn't do it.

>>409542027
Couldn't turn off the display, but SteamVR supports mono output to both screens. Games will probably still try to render L+R eye though.

>>409530825
>>409534621
Unlucky

>>409540536
so i just put the cleaning ragbettween the face mask and the display. it works i guess

>>409330291 (Cross-thread)
>InvalidOperationException: Cannot read value of type 'Boolean' from control '/IndexControllerOpenXR/primarytouched' bound to action 'XRI LeftHand Interaction/Button Touch[/IndexControllerOpenXR/primarytouched]' (control is a 'ButtonControl' with value type 'float')
Unity insists it's a float.

>>409535584
Been trying ffaio for 2 days. Have a look see what's up online... Fucking dead! where the fuck do I peasant Twd?

>>409546219
Oh, I found the problem. It is outputting a bool but this method is returning a float. I fixed it now.

i like the helicopter, its nice.

I'm getting flashbacks, bros...

vrdere-dev

>>409554892
>nooo you have to do everything perfectly first time, you can't learn by finding your mistakes

>he thinks he can learn with unity
we might be witnessing the origin story
looking forward to the next episodes

>>409555985
What am I supposed to learn to use Unity with, if not Unity?

>>409556150
What you are "learning" right now are arbitrary abstractions, without having solid fundamentals.
It's useless "knowledge".

Skipping fundamentals never ends well, it was documented and proven countless times already.

>>409556573
what is he supposed to learn with then? make his own game engine in assembly?

>make his own game engine in assembly?
That strawman again. Don't even deserve a (You).

>>409556823
Can you explain what you mean then?

>>409556956
Let me ask you are question instead: Do you really think that person how doesn't even know the basics can make a good VR game?
Especially considering that VR development is much harder than pancake development, which is a fact, you cannot argue about that.
I find it very ironic that by trying to "save time" you are just wasting time even more. You will have to learn eventually anyway, might as well start right away.
Unity "dev" is just playing with poop.

>>409557772
Oh, your entire argument is 'use unreal engine instead'.

>use that poop instead of this poop
You have to realize that 3rd party engines require more competence from the developer, not less.
Because you have to know 1. the fundamentals + 2. engine specific abstractions.
3rd party engines are good for big studios, so they can hire and drag-and-drop random devs without wasting time on teaching them.
If you start with 3rd party you are just shooting yourself in the foot from the very beginning.

>>409389382
This is pretty cool. I think we need a new wave of these portable pcvr backpacks. Pic rel could be a great candidate especially if the upcoming 4070mobile could match a desktop 3070

>>409558627
No, I don't think I'll be making my own engine.

>>409558820
No, I don't think you would ever make a good game.

>>409558931
Let's see your engine and what you've made with it.

>>409559295
>dox yourself
No, I don't think I will.

>>409559531
Is there even a single well known VR game made in a proprietary engine?

>>409560942
Unironically, one of the main reasons VR sucks so much.

>>409561127
Let me guess you spent several years in /agdg/ and purity spiralled into anything less than engine dev is absolutely unacceptable, but using an existing programming language (probably high level) and compiler to make it is arbitrarily fine because you personally don't want to do it.

>>409562409
>you spent several years in /agdg/
A miss right away.

>>409562676
Do you consider using existing development libraries acceptable?

>>409563015
In some cases, yeah. Mostly for specific stuff (like sound resampling, sdf generation).
But still, to an extent, a soup of libraries and dependencies that a lot of devs create is disgusting.

>>409563383
So why do you draw the line there?

>>409563660
Because if you are not careful, you lose control and that is never good.

>>409563779
And if someone who has gone so far as to write their own low level language said that to you, how could you possibly refute them?

>>409564045
>someone who has gone so far as to write their own low level language
I just don't see value in that.
If you can write asm and know C++ well enough to only use good parts of it, you can accomplish anything already. By writing your own language you don't get more control, so it's all about comfort.

>>409554892
it wouldnt look half as bad if this mf lost some weight

>>409555178
Haha, I can tell you're only saying this shit to be a contrarian because I know for a fact you would never give me the same level of sympathy if I did the same shit he did

>>409569368
I'm not defending Yandere dev.

>>409560942
Shouldn't Source 2 count? Unfortunately.

>>409558627
Is there a single example of VR Indie being made on custom engine?

>>409560942
HLA - Source 2
No Man Sky - Proprietary
Star Wars Squadrons - Frostbite
>>409582205
Now thinking about it, i guess i could consider OpenMW VR as that example, i guess.

>>409560942
Skyrim.

>>409582416
>>409583158
>3/4 answers are flat ports one of which doesn't even have tracked controllers and the other two are notoriously terrible without mods

odnt die

I refuse to make mechanics that I can't use across VR games so it looks like I'll have to mess around with playspace moving for the cheap VR treadmill thing I'm trying to make

>>409535584
f95zone has everything you need.
Go to the main thread, download the installer, and grab the creator key from the OP.
There is also an entire asset release section where you can filter by "VAM" to download a shit ton of paid mods.

>>409546749
Yes, FFAIO is dead and they put it behind a paywall $50 paywall which will probably also shut down after they've gotten all the money they want from the idiots that are defending them.
Use Rookie's sideloader now.
Also, you could never get VAM on these sideloaders since there's no apk version.
VAM is a very poorly optimized piece of shit, and all the content that is released for it is straight asset ports from things like daz with no optimization either.
This shit doesn't even run well on the beefiest of PCs, but you can get by with simple scenes.

>>409546749
>>409546749
I've checked around, and can't find the recently released chapter 2 anywhere.
Rookie does have the first game though.

>>409328580
We had a solution to people like this and many other problems, it was called an asylum, then some liberal retards decided it was mean and we are all suffering endless consequences for it

>>409609056
>t. New Liberal Fascist
Your political and economic system is bankrupt socialist

>>409325145
>>409328580
Even Ted Bundy, for all his intelligence, as a kid used to surround his family members beds at night with knives. Children (usually) aren't as adept as hiding sociopathic tendencies as adults are so there's always clear giveaways.

Mods, this is /vg/ not /b/ or /pol/ time to ban the off topic chatters /jp/ style, permanently

>>409540525
>but there's no way eye tracking and foveated rendering would translate over to pc
Why? I don't see why not.

Man I just want a headset that just werks. Plug it in and play game. Literally doesn't exist.

>>409614986
I want Rift S 2, I hate that my only option is having to put up with lighthouses or the shitty wireless meme

>>409614986
Virtual Desktop Quest 2 is literally definition of "just werks", headset

>>409615601
>>409615667
No.

>>409614986
Index

>>409615667
this

I started the rma process for my index headset, and they said Im getting an advance replacement. when should I expect to get this? I want to shoot some niggas in vr again.

>courted vrtubers, lied about alpha access, ran shady crowdfunding tiers on their site, pushing esports hard before the game is even out (always a bad sign)
>"anyone who plays the alpha will get access to the final game! the final game will be free to play!"
>turns out that this was a lie, alpha testers and bug hunters now stuck on the Alpha client seperate to the main paid one in steam. Devs claiming that this is a Valve issue and they can't fix ;) (lie)
>caught dabbling in NFT's and floating ideas of future player NFT skins to fund the in-game market before NFT mania came crashing down
>interesting physics and weapon handling but otherwise bland shooter
Game is fine but very bland. Company running seems shady af with no direction other than throwing shit at the wall. At the end of the day its just another online shooter that will end up a ghosttown.

>>409620780
don't care, enjoying playing while it lasts

>>409622907
People like you are the reason we will never see a lot of good VR games. Why trying something better if "okay" is enough for you.

>>409619696
>I want to shoot some niggas in vr

>>409623730
is tyrone vs cops any decent or is it just a shitty meme game?

>>409624007
Its very barebones and basic, fun for half an hour, though it quickly becomes not too easy. Most I managed was roasting 30 pigs in an hour of playing but I didnt really look into the perk system. Melee is too hard, you really need to stab those pigs to do any damage and depending on your play space this is a sure way to break your hand on a door or a wall

Page 10

>>409633592
thanks for the bumb, some snacks for your effort!

Is it a good idea to buy a a set of vive controlers to use instead of trackers? Its would be cheaper to buy them than 1 tracker.

Among Us VR in around 3h

>>409634887
I refunded it because no one else was playing it ToT

>>409634887
can't wait

>>409327047
You should make it so that you can climb to various parts of the body and undo the clasps to strip her.

>>409324958 (OP)
Bros I'm glad I waited such a long time to play HL: Alyx. If I played it years ago like I originally planned, it would've set the bar too high and made other VR games less enjoyable imo. First playthrough is blowing my mind and it looks so good the the G2. Now lets hope we don't have to wait 15 years for another valve VR game

>>409653109
now play the levitation mod

>>409615667
airlink just werks

>>409614986
Index. Plug everything into one surge protector, flip switch go play

>>409634887
>>409635350
>>409635359
Lobby is up
Roomcode: KWV7P1 Server: Europe

>>409654336
me and someone else got black screen and dc'd during game start ;w;

>>409654336
>>409634887
>KWV7P1
new lobby K7WNPT code

>>409614986
take the quest pill and I don't mean for stinky pcvr

>>409654096
>airlink just werks
Yeah, until you buy new GPU or new update breaks something

How the fuck VRC version is better than standalone Amogus.

First of all 3 crashes of a lobby in an hour? Then movement runs at like 30 fps, making world judder when you move, and voice doppler shitft doing some werid voice modulation. Graphics are lazy, my hands look horrible, no fingertracking. They didn't even turn off emissions or rebake second version of the map with lights off, just shitty black fog.

And no even lobby settings!

Also a lot of double input problems

>>409662337
>a lot of double input problems
Doing the button tasks was painful.
I reckon next time we just need to do it in VRC, as the game itself is fun.
But thanks for the host, I enjoyed it.

>accidentally left headset uncovered in a room with a lot of windows where sunlight can get in
>too scared to check if my lenses are actually damaged
Please tell me we won't have to worry about direct sunlight one of these days. Are pancake lenses any better when it comes to that?

>>409662337
I cannot believe the camera update problem. That is nauseating.

>>409664810
They actually are. That results in one of their downsides, the screens are usually a bit dimmer as they can't focus as much light. Hence Sony ditching pancake for PSVR as it is hard to do HDR alongside pancake lenses and their reduced brightness.

>>409620780
It's weird how the developers seem to have no idea what they're doing but still managed to get a few things about the fundamental gameplay right.

>>409328580
Speaking as someone who has been hospitalized for suicidal tendencies after being urged to do so, mental facilities are a mixed bag, like prison.
The guy next door would yell at the top of his lungs. On one level, I pitied him, but that was the one and only time I remember having a physiological urge to kill someone because I thought he was a danger to myself and others. I spoke to a counselor, but only the combination of medicine and the fact that I was essentially on forced vacation actually relieved my symptoms.

>>409665629
The NFT shit wouldn't exist if the game wasn't developed at that exact time. Imagine if Notch had put some kind of crypto currency implementation in Minecraft in 2009.

>>409670639
rather nfts than relying on a centralized server for cosmetics. At least when the company maintaining the data goes bankrupt, there might still be secondary markets left to sell the cosmetics as collectors item

>>409671359
That's retarded and not how it actually works.

>Kiwi grips are almost perfect
>The mounting mechanism blocks ir lights
godfucking damnit, recomend me a grip for q2

>>409674463
and how does it work in your opinion?
If the nfts are minted on a permissionless ledger that is how it works. Could go as far as give people that buy the asset a share on future sales of the asset.

>>409675759
>The mounting mechanism blocks ir lights
Yeah that's what I found. They claim that they've designed them with that in mind but I still occasionally briefly lost tracking when I had them on when placing the controller near the headset to do aiming.

>>409681879
Because even theoretically the backbone would be some cryptoscam coin which have been dropping like flies as participating in the validator network rapidly loses profitability.
But even in practical terms none of that functionality is built into the NFT at all in any way, shape, or form, it has to be implemented by developers. Which they could just as easily do (and have done) without running the backend on an inefficient cryptoscam with processing fees. Being decentralized or not has nothing to do with secondary markets or being able to resell digital goods, it's a complete non-sequitur. It's a lie that cryptoscammers pushed onto retards who keep parading the lie because they don't want to look stupid. For a perfect example of why it's retarded, look no further than Steam's digital economy, which works exactly like the functionality that cryptoscammers pretend NFTs have, without being decentralized.

The metaverse will kill VR adoption

>>409623356
What do you mean? Wouldn't not trying something be sticking to Pavlov or Contractors? Anyway Vail has no content but I really like how the implemented all the optics and I wish Contractors had a similar scope effect.

>>409623356
Nigga, surely we totally need just another multiplayer vr shooter
Almost like genre is saturated to the point any competitor just has hard time to catch player attention on the project
Also NFT esports shit is not "good VR game"

>>409708965
Speaking of multiplayer VR shooters that are probably going to die within a week, I just found out that the guys who made Hyper Dash are making a Rainbow Six Siege clone in VR called Breachers. There's apparently the same kind of open alpha as Hyper Dash, has anyone played it?

>>409709447
I thought it's quest-only, am i wrong?

>>409710173
Looks like it's coming out on everything but the alpha is Quest only. Bummer.

VR shooter is fun but we need a new genre of games. perhaps something exclusive to VR

>>409440816
all youd need for that is a single waist tracker

>>409613890
bad example, /jp/s catalog has 31 offtopic threads right now

>>409685663
did they not learn from the cosmos

>>409718316
what do you consider offtopic threads?
i have a feeling you are just a newfriend who doesnt know what's offtopic and what's not

>>409718668
every single thread caught by my filters

>>409718789
post screenshot

>>409718653
>did they not learn from the cosmos
Chink companies don't care. They copy design and pump things out to market because they know there's demand and they fix the myriad of shortcomings in an "upgraded" product 3-6 months later. I've been happy with their headstrap, but some of the plastic has yellowed on it.

post VR video games

>>409546749
Chapter 2 is now available on Rookie.

>>409692427
Retard. You should not have an opinion on distributed ledgers, its simply wrong.
>B-but token scam
No need for token retard. Your opinion is just discarded, don't say anything about crypto or nfts again, you don't know what it is

>>409728843
the only crypto that matters is monero.
everything else is a useless ponzi
if you disagree, you are a retard and shouldn't talk at all

>>409709447
I borrowed my brother's Quest 2 to try the alpha and it's fun. It feels like a slightly simplified version of Rainbow Six Siege that still maintains the tension on both the attacking and defending side. Points based buy menu with lots of potential for expansion for new gadgets and an overall similar level of polish to Hyperdash. They've built esports spectator tools for the game but it still feels casual friendly. I hope dedicated servers or higher playercounts will be an option for PC, I'd really like to see how chaotic 8v8 or 10v10 would be.

If the release version has good map variety I think it will have a solid spot in the VRFPS market.

>>409728843
>you can sell the token
>but the assets themselves no longer exist because the game died
what now retard

>>409728613

>bought the G2 at release
>have only played sitting down games because my play space was as big as my chair basically
>after 2 years I've now cleaned the entire room
>all of the boxes, garbage bags, mold, dust, cum socks, stacks of dishes, bottles, everything has been cleared out
>new carpet, furniture, paint, it's like a normal human being's room
>have big enough of a play space to play other games

I'm downloading Pavlov right now.

>>409740407
well done anon! enjoy your new found freedom

knowing that a frogposter is about to suffer because of his stupid purchasing decisions makes me happy

>>409740717
There's so much more space and the air is clean and it smells like frankincense now. All of the laundry and clothes are sorted and everything is shelved too. Everything has it's spot. Nothing is scattered around.

>>409740407
Why are G2 owners so autistic?

>>409741078
I'm not.

>>409740982
Yeah I know the tracking is bad, but it will be ok.

>>409728961
crypto currency =! distributed ledgers
>>409735658
what is ipfs?

>>409500286
RACING IN 4 HOURS 20 MINTES!

god I fucking love furry VR porn

>>409711042
any ideas?

>>409745714
>>409767861 (Cross-thread)

vrwheel was a pain in the ass to set up and is an even bigger pain in the ass to use

>>409735135
Hope it's good because Hyper Dash really deserved better.

>>409762738
I feel like adventure games have become a VR genre of sorts.
Is there a single VR god game that's even remotely playable? That genre needs to come back.

>>409770909
I got Acron: Attack of the Squirrels!, this made me excited about forcing my friends to play against me on their phones.

>>409324958 (OP)
Why would you charge a 10 year old kid as an adult and jail people for boning teens? Burgers, explain, please.

>>409794006
>jail people for boning teens?
t. paz who thinks its ok to fuck 14 year olds because the grass he stands on is magic grass and different from the grass i stand on mother gaia's embrace

>>409327047
Actual dev of that webm here. I haven't been here in many months and I'm shocked to find that this is still being talked about, lol.
I actually came to show off my MR progress. My boss got us a Quest Pro to fuck around with and, besides the downgrade in comfort, it's a pretty neat headset. Just not $1500 levels of "neat."

>>409798692
>I actually came to show off my MR progress.
It's shit. Stop wasting time on gimmicks.

>>409799808
Hey, if companies are willing to pay big money for niche proofs of concept, who am I to judge. Besides, VR started as gimmicky shit too.

>>409800715
It's still a gimmick shit thanks to sellouts like you.
Die.

>>409798692
Kinda neat but I really don't see the point of mixed reality stuff like this, every demo I've seen would be improved by just replacing the passthrouh with a full VR environment. Even if the passthrough cameras were good what's the point?

>>409801778
Yeah, what happened to all those old demos that'd generate level geometry using the camera data but have the entire environment be in VR?

One more week until the 7900XTX launches and I can finally play my VR shovelware in its full glory.

is there an up to date mod to convert songs to single saber mode for beat saber?
last one I can find was last updated 8+ months ago

>>409825668
I'm wondering if I should try and get a reference card from AMD, even though I should have learned my lesson with the 6900xt. AIB cards will be overpriced though, same with nvidia, and specs should imply decent enough VR performance gains. I just don't know mang.

>>409794006
Because when you let kids off with aggravated or premeditated murder, gangs just get kids to be their triggermen.

wake up!

>>409848005
im sick, let me sleep.

fine i'll give you 50 more minutes...

>quest 2 update disabled developer mode
uh oh...

>>409851950
Finally. Maybe meta shills will learn their lesson this time, and maybe they will stop making quest exclusive sideload demos and mods.

my dumb ass brother gave me the flu, so no vr for me.

I don't really have anything to say about VR

>>409864195
wrong thread

>>409839656
Yeah, making kid a full blown convict will protect him gang life fo sure. Lmao.

It is Pavlov day!

New ITR update.
>aim smoothing
Finally. I think I'm going to restart my Ironman run. How were the new guns from the previous update? I'm mainly interested in the FAL.

>>409877156
>aim smoothing
do you have parkinsons?

>>409882221
nta, i notice my hands getting jittery when i get into stressful firefights, so some assistance is appreciated

>>409882221
I do. I'm also fat, balding and my eyesight is shit. What about it?

>>409882492
damn that must suck, i'm sorry for you bro

>>409882567
Don't be. I've got aim smoothing now. Life is good.

>>409877156
But it already had aim smoothing, and you couldn't turn it off for scoped weapons, which made me rage and remove scopes.

Aim smoothing is just so fucking bad. It's like a deadzone but for your hands, hate it.

>>409884052
I don't know why more games don't copy the H3VR system where you can turn aim smoothing on by pressing in the off-hand trigger.

>>409877156
>>409884052
I also don't understand why they would add aim smoothing for everything. It's fine with a scope, especially since in real life you've got nothing to steady your hand, so long range sniping is usually a shaky mess. It becomes absolute ass trying to shoulder fire a scoped rifle in short-range or indoors encounters, as it takes forever for you to quickly acquire your target. What should be a snappy turn of the wrist becomes a slow overcompensated movement

>>409884574
It's to compensate for not having a stock.

>>409877156
They didn't have a beta this time.

>>409882492
But being bald is a benefit for VR

Bump

>index has an audio output
>practically no jack in existence will fit due to awful positioning

>>409906739
It does?
Also aren't the speakers modular?

>>409420494
i hand typed the urls theyre all dudes making shitty sarcastic recordings and the replies are all gay men from /fit/

https://vocaroo.com/1laL2DuPgKVH

https://vocaroo.com/1mu80IQVu8E9

>>409908830
It's under the face cover.

good night

best porn game that isnt skyrim/virt? i like the small itch ones, there was one with a witch but i forgot the name

>>409920492
vr chat

>Changed the handling of ammo, boxes, and magazines to make them more realistic: to load magazines from boxes, you need to hold both the magazine and the box; to load the magazine with single ammo, you need to hold both the ammo and the magazine. However, it is still possible to put ammo in boxes even if you are not holding the box.
Rip "empty mag to pocket with ammo boxes" meta.
>Improved the first two missions, according to players’ feedback, to make them more accessible: mission items are now easier to find, the number of monsters and anomalies has been reduced, their location has been changed, and the initial tutorials have been improved.
Casualed. Rip.
>Knives thrown at Fragments no longer disappear when a Fragment dies.
Finally.

I really want to dropkick things

This is not good, is it?

>>409950338
>% remains constant while total users increase
It means VR is growing at the same rate as everything else.

>>409951506
That's not a good thing in a relatively new market like VR.

>>409951786
It means it has an established niche, anon. It's not going to die any time soon.

>>409952879
I don't think it's gonna die but I also don't really see it getting many new games if the market is stagnant.

>>409920492
Koikatsu, Heat

bump.

>>409796690
>thinks its ok to fuck 14 year olds
It is. By nature we're supposed to have sex around 13-15. As proven by study of our ancestor's corpses we only lived to 30 years old up until recently in our history as a species. So if you weren't having sex then you were going extinct.

>>409968518
thats pretty illegal and morally apprehensible

>>409968650
You just listened completely fabricated inventions against hard science.

So in the face of science you have no grounds. You also have no grounds on the basis of fabrication as I can just say: "It's actually legal and morally correct."

>>409968518
>As proven by study of our ancestor's corpses we only lived to 30 years old up until recently in our history as a species.
Sorry but you have grossly misunderstood that tidbit.

The average life span was calculated that low because it also included the deaths in infancy, as well as general diseases also killing children. If you survived all that to the age of 20, you were expected to live for another 50 years.
We did not turn grey and frail at 30.

>>409969036
Nope, you're dead wrong. You people do this every time I post this info.

YOU are talking about something with RECENT human history, the last 2,000 years. I am not, we found remains going back 30-180k years ago that PROVE CONCLUSIVELY that we only lived to actually about 28-29. (Less than 1% made it to 30)

So yeah, you're way off and didn't understand the topic.

>>409968518
>we only lived to 30 years old
Completely false
What would happen is most kids wouldnt make it to adulthood
people past adulthood would easily live to their 60's
look at more stats than just average you pedophile you will use any lies to justify your sick pedophilia kill yourself

>>409969703
Nope. I JUST explained to you how you didn't understand the the topic. You're talking about RECENT human history within the last 2,000 years and how lifespan was recorded.

I'm talking about our NATURAL BIOLOGICALLY STATE and how long we live as proven by OUR HUMAN REMAINS and how long we live naturally.

In the last 10,000 years we began to increase how long we lived past 28 by controlling the variables in our environment. Otherwise we naturally only live to 28.

This snowball effect of controlling our variables enables to live past 28 these days. In the same manner as when you hear about how long an animal lives in captivity VS the wild. The ones in captivity live A LOT longer. (There's a few that suffer from issues being in captivity but that's psychological in part)

>>409969954
Human history and civilization is older than just 2000 years, dude.

>>409970102
You should read a whole post before responding

We only started keeping reliable records within the last 2,000 years, we get less and less data as you go back from there exponentially

>>409969036
i already told him this he ignored me and screamed SCIENCE SAYS I CAN BE A PEDO its a lost cause pedophile faggot just v& it no hope for that one irredeemable mindset

>we found dead people who were 30 so its ok to fuck kids

is his argument
hes deranged and a pedophile
nuke it

>>409970171
>We only started keeping reliable records within the last 2,000 years
No, we've been doing that for longer too.

>>409970259
No, not really.

>>409970259
his argument is
>we found dead people who were 30 so its ok to fuck kids

>one retard is a niggerspacer, another is an ape who cannot read
What a mess.

>>409970326
do you genuinely think civilization started at year 0 AD?

Is it just the same two retards bickering in this thread every time?

>>409970334
Yes dude, this is the second time you've said this.

>>409968518
>>409968789
>>409969395
>>409969954

Got an actual source for all this?

>>409970368
>Is it just the same two retards bickering in this thread every time?
No, I'm on the sidelines today.

>>409970343
What part of RELIABLE RECORDS do you not grasp you idiot?

The early civilizations have shitty glyphs and scribbles that literally dissolved away from the elements. Even the best early record keepers the Romans were having all of their parchments were falling apart or going up in huge flames in 500 bc

>>409970506
Sounds like cherry-picking to me.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-evolution-human-origins/life-expectancy-myth-and-why-many-ancient-humans-lived-long-077889
>scientists have compared the life span of adults in contemporary hunter-gatherer tribes (excluding the infant mortality rate). It was found that once infant mortality rates were removed, life span was calculated to between 70 and 80 years, the same rate as that found in contemporary industrialised societies.

>>409970336
>we found dead people who were 30 so its ok to fuck kids

>>409970591
Yeah, that data is out of date. We only recently found the human remains that prove we only lived to just under 30. Within the last few years.

>>409970673
Where's your source then? I'm not taking your word for it when you've provided fuck all.

i told you guys this place is pedos

wait why the fuck are you niggers in VRGG and not vrlg TABS?

>>409970624
>Get the ability to have sex around 13-15 and the urges compelling you to do so
>NO YOU JUST HAVE THAT ABILITY SO THAT YOU DON'T USE IT

That's not how nature works my man

>>409970786
>we found dead people who were 30 so its ok to fuck kids

>>409970875
Basically, it's nature. You were just told it was wrong and believed it.

If you were raised in a cult and told to never shake someone's hand because it means they're trying to steal your soul you'd believe that shit too.

>>409970673
source? I don't see how some skeletons would invalidate this evidence but please do provide

The archeology argument is pathetic attempt at appeal to authority even if it's true.
Real children (and humans in general) are disgusting, but there is no valid logical argument against cunny.
It's just an artistic representation of idolized female beauty. And nobody gets hurt.

Being against it is just thought policing.

>>409970946
^This is a chat bot
>we found dead people who were 30 so its ok to fuck kids

readijg this thread while high was a fever dream

Which thread am I in??

>>409971568
funposting general

>>409971243
>>409970741
>>409970437
Not him but I found a bit of what he was talking about, I'd post more of it but it's a rather obscure topic that brings up tons of other things as well.

>People today typically live long enough to become grandparents, but this was not always the case.
>Recent analyses of fossil teeth indicate that grandparents were rare in ancient populations, such as those of the australopithecines and the Neandertals. They first became common around 30,000 years ago, as evidenced by remains of early modern Europeans

>Our initial findings, supplemented with scans provided by the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, corroborated Wolpoff's results and validated the wear-based seriation method: the Krapina Neandertals had remarkably high mortality rates; no one survived past age 30.

>Based on data from Neandertals and contemporary hunter-gatherer populations, we inferred that fossil humans got their third molars and had their first child at around age 15. And we considered double that age to mark the beginning of grandparenthood—just as some women today can potentially give birth at age 15 and those women can become grandmothers when their own children reach age 15 and reproduce.

All of this is also old data, the numbers were refined and lowered even further from here as of the last 5 years or so as anon mentioned. Dude just doesn't want to google for you lazy fucks like I did or he can't find shit, I can't find the more recent stuff as I want to play video games and you're all slobbering retards that don't even deserve him trying to educate you to be honest.

>>409972112
Thanks anon, and yeah that data is almost 10 years out of date. The numbers get lower but in the 1% that made it past 30 some did make it to 40 which is what the equivalent of someone reaching 110 today lol

>>409968518
Age gap has always been taboo to a degree, but in a society that offers freedoms and education to women, it's understandable that a civilized man would at least let her finish highschool before the burden of pregnancy and kids (other wise it's not sex "by nature").
Modern society has also offered you VR and let you start an off-topic debate in this very thread, the VR VIDEO GAMES thread.

shut the fuck up and talk about vr video games you mentally ill trannoids holy shit

>>409972112
>>409972301
samefag

>Dude just doesn't want to google for you lazy fucks like I did or he can't find shit
Yeah, that and "both" posters are rabid niggerspacers. 98.47% samefag chance.

>>409972693
Spacing just makes posts more legible. Also not spacing is how reddit works since it separates stuff for you automatically.

Also try googling for "humans only live to 30" and report your results. It's hard to find anything, best I got was this just now
>Romans, for example, lived to just 30 or 35.

From here: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181002-how-long-did-ancient-people-live-life-span-versus-longevity

So yeah, you failed on "samefag" attempt and just look foolish.

what the fuck is wrong with all of you

>>409972562
You think ancient humans weren't even a little concerned about a man past his prime to taking their dear 10 year old daughter?
We might not be here without monogamy, but we definitely wouldn't be here without the rules of religions, which kept people in line and established civilized society. Religious heads were the most educated people in their communities.
Again, civilized society gave us VR and this very thread.

>>409973796
>civilized society gave us ... this very thread
Uncle Ted was right then

Anyway I'm not the original truthposter about lifespan facts and the like and I want to play video games instead of talking to you knuckledragging retards so I'm out

Narnya~

>the "main" thread is full of vrchat normalfags
>this thread is full of braindead retards who struggle to make a coherent sentence
>vr threads on /v/ are highjacked by vrchat retards and furries

>>409975338
Well VR was nice while it lasted but I guess it's done now, goodbye everyone!

>>409977154
yep time to nuke everyone! bye!

>>409975338
The worst part is that many of the posts in /vrg/ could go in here but they insist on using that thread despite the /soc/ posting driving others away and making anything else in there difficult to find.

https://youtu.be/h4TwcVuPBo4

The normalfags are laughing at us bros...

>>409972112
"bro over 30000 years ago they fucked each other at 15 so its ok that im a pedo today!!!"

even though they fucked at that age because they died so early they had no choice and also it was teens fucking other teens not a 30 year old fucking a 15 year old

>>409988947

>>409989079
yes

>>409994273
What game is that?

>>409995249
half life alyx

>>409994273
thought this screenshot was Fallout at first, similar armor

>>409908830
>Also aren't the speakers modular?
You can unscrew them, I don't think I've seen alternative index speakers sold anywhere. I'd replace them with more conventional headphones, if I could.

>>409999285
Really? I love the speakers.

>>409996846
Thanks, I'll play it soon.

>>410000641
I live in a noisy environment with other people so they're completely unsuitable. I can't hear them properly while the sound can be overheard by others.

>>410001479
Oh that sounds miserable. I don't even have closed back headphones because I don't think they sound as good.

>>410001479
>I can't hear them properly while the sound can be overheard by others.
I hope this won't be a problem when my index arrives.

EU VTOL in one hour!

>>410014110
how is the netcode cross-continent?

Hubris came out. Looks pretty, getting horrible reviews. Anyone interested?

>>409614986
Index desu
Even works on Linux

>>410015705
it's fine

>>410014110
EU VTOL server up! Main branch, Server name EU VTOL, Pass 'hotdog'

Trying to test anything in VR in Unity is a fucking nightmare.

>>410022482
Examples?

>>410024663
Repeatedly taking the headset on and off every time you need to test anything.

the showcase way gay.
i don't want to play games on a fucking phone hardware i want good looking ones on pc

>>410025338
Quest Pro will fix this ;)
>>410027208
Wait, it already happened?

>>410031960
>Quest Pro will fix this ;)
Even the SteamVR desktop overlay makes it far less frustrating if you know you're going to be changing in and out of VR multiple times.

>>410031960
yes.
attack on tiddy is coming to VR

>>410019619
I saved EU VTOL....

Thanks for turning up!

How is VR dev on unreal compared to unity?

alien isolation is great vr game but i just dont wanna play it

>>410034498
I would presume it is more difficult.

I was using Visual Studio with none of the Unity plugins or anything. It's a lot easier now it shows errors, suggestions, and proper navigation.

>>410037309
Can you give specifics? Is it missing certain plugins or are those plugins out of date?

>>410039790
Unreal is generally a more difficult engine to use, so I presume the same holds true for VR. My brief searching also seems to show OpenXR plugins are not as advanced.

>>410034498
I tried them both a little with no prior experience. I preferred Unreal slightly due to the layout of the editor and useful features like blueprints/visual scripting being built in by default. Not sure if Unity implemented it's own blueprints now but you needed addons for them before.
For VR tutorials I found that the UE4 ones were less outdated and broken than Unity, where there are so many you may need to dig past old or abandoned tutorials and examples to find what you're looking for.

>new steam update
IT'S OVER

>>410045261
huh?

>>410045261
FUCK NO

>shillseeker finally admits that bonelab wasn't a good game
Haha, wow. Stress Level Zero really fucked up on this one, didn't they?

>>410061709
he can't even admit that the KAT was shit, how did they manage that?

>>410061709
good games 0/3, really hitting it out of the park

>>409798692
this is cool :v got a github or twitter?

Groups are in the main build now. Who is going to make one?

>>410068913
what build, where

who thought that walking in a bowl would be a good way to move in VR

Anyone know why my index's display turns off when I put it on, but turns on and working perfectly only when I take it off (can even see the steam home)?! The sensors were working fine yesterday! I'm getting quite desperate...

>>410081190
@ steam support, mate
make sure the camera lenses aren't obstructed, and the base stations aren't either

>>410079118
Was from a desperate time before everyone admitted that an analog stick was good enough for now and everyone just needed to get over it.

>>410085142
I'll find a way to make myself have infinite room space that doesn't suck dick just to spite the bowl walker

What is the best VR game for crazy martial arts action?

>>410082601
It's the second hmd and it's past warranty by 2 years. It's like the head display sensors functionally reversed overnight.

>>410045749
https://twitter.com/SteamVR/status/1600663221731749888

>>410087817
This means nothing?

>>410086687
Dragon Fist?

How do you store your hmd? Anyone using a wall mount or similar with thescreen part upwards?

>>410104362
I throw a blanket over it on the ground after charging.

>>410104362
Pic related.
I put it in the canvas bag it came with and place it behind my monitor making sure the cable doesn't touch the back of the monitor.

>>410104362
In the drawer under my bed, I'm too paranoid of the sun for anything else.

>>410105093
>>410106769
>>410109174
You actually cover it? Mine just lay on the desk facing a window now, slightly tilted to avoid the sun a bit.
I have an Index btw, I just don't want it on my desk.

>>410111597
Be more careful dude, sun hitting lenses = goodbye

>>410111597
>Mine just lay on the desk facing a window now, slightly tilted to avoid the sun a bit
I see you like to live dangerously

>>410111802
>>410111963
Been like this since I bought it at release with no issues.
But I do want it off my desk, you act like the italian americans who wrapped their couches in plastic in the 70's.

>having sunlight in your house

>>410101694
I'll check it out

>>410104362
It hangs on the side of my simrig with a sock covering the lenses, so dust don't get it.

really wish i could play pavlov without dealing with angry teenagers who take the game way too personally
would be cool if we could just play the game and have fun

>>410130846
Join tuesday lobbies.

>>410104362
Covered under a thick cloth under a lighthouse tripod. It's safe out of the way and doesn't get dusty.

>>410104362
It hangs on these shelves.

>>410104362
Wardrobe drawer
>0 access to light
>little to no dust
>safe to hide from guests(real problem once they found out i own headset)

>>410106769
I do the same with my g2

>>410130094
>>410132849
That works, but I really want it hanging the other way.

>>410133153
>safe to hide from guests(real problem once they found out i own headset)
Come on anon, you can't post vague shit like this without an explanation.

>>410134954
Nothing interesting, just touching the lenses with dirty hands without even asking for permission beforehand

>>410136030
This is very common for some reason. Guests love touching things other people own.

Anyone played that one Levitation HLA map?
Is it good? Buggy maybe?
Was waiting for a while just to avoid early release bugs

>>410152937
Pretty good, had a bug of AI being disabled but it was fixed already. Definitely worth a play.

https://youtu.be/T94wFlhqDaI
Not!Ghostrunner looks good, but shame it's made by shitty dev studio

>>410130094
makes me want to build a desk out of 80/20 and never have to worry about mounts ever again

>>410161830
Have these guys finished a single game?

https://youtu.be/u6FEmA3S6Nw
Finally a release date

>>410172319
Neat. Actually looking forward to that one.

Are there anymore games like jet island? Im almost done with it and Im going to be sad when its done.

NA VTOL in 1 hour!

I hope After The Fall wins

>>410188431
NA VTOL
hotdog

>>409324958 (OP)
bros, when will they port this to PC?

Walking Dead S&S devs announced an original IP, but it seems to be just for fucking Quest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZFGibs9e8M

>>410196325
It's too problematic, so never.

>>410205256
no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oX1AuoJFAI

page 10

>>410208142
Skyrim Shadow of the Colossus VR edition

>>410219348
Will take the 'VR edition" of anything at this point

page 10

yeah

if you let the thread die, i will go to /vrg/ and funpost hard
this is a threat

>>410239343
Too busy playing VR games to post, sorry.

>>410239409
that's a lie

>Virtual Desktop update adds always-online DRM

>>410246843
>HMD drivers are all proprietary as in slavery

VAIL lobby at 19:00 UTC

>>410256641
Wish I could play but
>Euro hours
Enjoy yourselves, Eurobros.

>>410256641
How populated is it? I don't wanna waste money on something that's going to dead soon, and even Pavlov (which is the most popular one) is slowly bleeding players nowadays.

>>410260346
Not very.
It's a decent game though, but if you're worried about longevity then it ain't for you.

>>410246843
> Improved PCVR game performance by up to 20%
Yeah, bro, that's 100% bullshit.
I have the legit version, but i'm not upgrading. Fuck the canadian faggot.

Well, at the very least the cracked version is still avaliable.

why are canadians always like this?

>>410260346
Like 30 or 40 players throughout the day. I doubt the game's going to last but I like playing near-dead shooters with tiny playerbases. I played Neotokyo for years.

>ItR realistic ironman
>fall through the map
>fully upgraded ak74 + 45kg of loot lost
yeah, fuck you, I'm opening cheat engine

>>410262890
intended spookiness

>>410262890
I've had a few bullshit moments on ironman but nothing that bad, such is life in the zone.

Can anyone dump updated Virtual Desktop APK?

>>410264020
What for?

what are the best MP games/mods out there currently? is there any way to play elder scrolls (or any fallout) vr multiplayer? I remember seeing that morrowind has a decent mp mod and vr conversion, do they work well together or is there a better option for open world rpg with friends?

>>410262890
the game still has its bugs.
>run through bolotki swamp with fully modified FN
>get electrocuted
>rifle ends in swamp in the middle of electric anomaly
>die during attempt to find it
>upon respawn rifle back in my hand

>>410265653
Pavlov. Everything else is on vetegable life support, especially inside the vrg/vrgg ecosytem. Walkabout Golf has active lately but no telling if it's just another flash in the pan at the moment.

>>410266324
Even Pavlov is dying because of no updates in a year and Dave is delaying over a stupid in-game friends list that no-one asked for now.

>>410266324
we all have pavlov and walkabout and play those most often. but im mostly looking for fun flat converted games that work well to play with 2-3 friends (risk of rain 2 has been perfect), so im not too concerned with how active the community is, just looking for solid, functioning mp stuff with motion control support

>>410266510
99% of players are happy with current Pavlov

>>410267473
:^)

>>410266324
I think Contractors is healthier than Pavlov. You can at least find a match for any given gamemode in Contractors.

>>410268584
Contractors has artificial updates according to Dave.

>>410268584
what are some fun game modes in contractor's that aren't in pav? I havent picked up contractors yet

>>410271895
Ninja Warrior mode where everyone's a ninja and gets a bow, smoke bombs, and a katana.

Who even IS this guy, anyway? How does he have so many connections in the VR industry and why does everyone trust him?

>>410272925
>Who even IS this guy, anyway?
Faggot
>How does he have so many connections in the VR industry
See above and take a guess

What do we think about this new snippet of call of the mountain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5NdLcyKM98

>>410275173
Combat looks more engaging when there are multiple enemies

>>410272925
Brad's Fad and Sad

>>409328580
train him to be a warrior or the best hunter in the tribe to put his natural inclinations to good use. oh sorry i forgot we live in civilized society where every trait that doesn't help you fill out excel spreadsheets is seen as a negative.

>>410256641
Host: BNUUY
Pass:79455

>>410275173
The lack of free movement made me lose all interest.

Multiple grip positions... Contractors used to allow this, and even sliding between them, but they removed it.

Hello friends, at this point in the index's life is it still worthwhile to buy one. I've just come into enough money for an index and everything but I've been reading about Valve apparently doing another one soon.

>>410285610
Vail does a bunch of really nice things with gun-handling but the lack of any kind of retention reload mechanism for most of the guns is baffling.

>>410285835
tl;dr yes the index is worth it

Longer answer: The 'new one' is rumoured to be the deckard. It only exists in rumours, and patents, and how valve works is that until something is annouced it's liable to be dropped when the team's ADHD meds wear off. It has not been announced. Which means it is a year off at minimum. Plus since all we know is rumours, there isn't a great deal about it that we know reliably.

As for other competitors to the headset, there are headsets with better screens, there are headsets that are wireless, but they all have something tricky about them. For example some headsets imply are harder to drive because they have too many pixels; the index is 'good enough' to where you don't see them unless you look, which is easier on the GPU. Some have worse sweet spots, no IPD adjustment, worse sound, worse tracking (and no lighthouse system which is a big minus) or worse comfort or one of a dozen things that reduces the appeal. The index is a well rounded VR package that excels in nothing but is good in everything. Most of this community uses an index or a quest 2. For good reason.

Headsets of note: G2 (good screen, good sound, no lighthouse tracking). Quest 2 (good screen, ok sound, wireless, controllers track okay, but no lighthouse, needing to stream video over wifi reduces much of the benefit of the better screen, and facebook cuckery) and pico 4 (similar to Q2 but without facebook cuckery it's actually a half decent option).

>>410287362
>and no lighthouse system which is a big minus
lighthouse is a meme, rift s had perfect tracking and i only have more problems since i switched to index

>>410287690
>lighthouse is a meme
Cope

>>410287362
Index also has a great mic. It's only real downsides are quality control issues, avaliability and in some ways price. The QA controller issues were so bad it put me off buying one for ages.

Quest 2 tracking is actually good for 99% of games, just not for VRChat or autistically hardcore Beat Saber wagglers.
Controllers using off-shelf batteries is underrated plus in my opinion. Never had to stop playing due to low battery when I can swap to another set of rechargables.
Sound is a bigger weak point than people say, the built in speakers are acceptable for casual use but you'll need to plug in your own headphones to even hear subtler sounds like footsteps in some games. There are third party options but anything that needs me to spend more money is a downside.
Comfort without a third party headstrap is also so bad people need to be warned about it. The popular BOBOVR M2 isn't as comfortable as an Index or even a Rift S due to all the forward weight. People recommend Vive DAS but they are getting pretty expensive too.

>>410288382
>Cope
about what? i have lighthouses and it's been an objective downgrade from the rift s' tracking

>>410287362
>pico 4 (similar to Q2 but without facebook cuckery it's actually a half decent option).
Isn't it always online headset or something?

>>410293285
ok, now put a hand above your head, or behind your back, or throw a grenade, or put something in your in game backpack, or fire a bow.

>>410296176
why don't you put a hand on my ass
sorry just bumping the thread

>>410287690
>lighthouse is a meme
Holy shit you couldn't be more wrong. I've had to offload my OG Vive for reasons I won't get into then got a Quest 2 months later to scratch that VR itch after finding out that you don't need a Facebook account anymore and let me tell you, anything less than traditional outside-in tracking a la lighthouses is dogshit if you actually want some freedom with your hands.
I feel as stiff as a board as I try to do stuff ingame while making sure my controllers aren't too low at my sides or behind my back at all times. Yes, it tries to predict where your controllers are when out of view for a bit, but you still have to immediately return the controllers within view of the cameras. It can be godawful at times for games like Boneworks.
Man, I miss my former VR setup.

>>410298063
Watch out before someone puts a hand on your ass.

>>410298063
dm me and i will

>>410309367
post discord

>>410312427
>>410309367
You first.

>>410276598
>completely ignores the kinslaying
wew lad

Golf, lobby is vrggolf

I'm getting a lot of pressure on my forehead and the top of my head when I have the index on, and it hurts after a while. Is this normal? Worse with sitting games, since I guess moving around shifts the weight more.

>>410320759

Has anyone tried the Meta pro controllers for gaming? How is it?

>>410322926
80% chance you're wearing the thing wrong. It's not intuitive. Try loosening it way more and making sure that the back part is wrapped around the lower part of your skull.

>>410333215
https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/699a-ecd2-f839-760c
Not that anon but do these short clips on this page show it properly?

>>410333429
Yeah. But nobody reads the manual and it's pretty common for people to have the Index sitting on top of their head.

>>410333639
Thanks, I bought an index recently and I've only worn it once. I'm going to try again tonight and hope I fit it on right! Any tips?

>>410333429
>>410333639
>>410334082
I read that guide, but it's still possible I made it too tight, since it's not that precise about it. I guess I'll experiment and see what feels better.

>>410298334
Maybe the cameras-on-controller approach can be about as good as lighthouse tracking, but that's also seemingly a very expensive solution.

>>410337769
I think I'm having the same problem as you. It's either too tight or too loose and slips down.

The dev of Bus to Nowhere has been working on a sort of monster survival game full of shitposts and references and it looks kind of fun.

>>410349934
references to what?

>>410350276
Just references to various things like one of the monsters being Ao Oni, another monster being Something Wicked from ULTRAKILL, etc.

>>410350568
Anon, that sounds EPIC!

>>410246843
>>410262180
Pretty bullshit.
>"oh no Facebook bad, look at how anti-competitive and anti-consumer they are!"
>sells his software on their store anyway
>then implements DRM
A fucking leaf, AND French.

>>410350701
>Just references to various things like one of the monsters being Ao Oni, another monster being Something Wicked from ULTRAKILL, etc.

>>410295648
Getting the Pico 4 is just replacing the meta/facebook shit with tiktok/whatever chinese company owns tiktok shit so if you're some sort of privacy fag it's not really better.

why is it impossible to crack vd on quest?
i don't even want to use vd, but i am curious what makes it different from different aps that were cracked

>>410354979
There is a "cracked" version of VD.
But anyway, as far as I understand to communicate between pc and headset, both programs need to have the same username, and the only way to add/retrieve the username is to pass the purchase check which is done through the meta servers (?).
It goes like this: app starts -> call home to meta to get the usernames -> connect to pc.
A while ago it was changed to:
app starts -> try calling home -> if no internet, do local discovery -> connect to pc.
And now the greedy goblin reverted it, so if it cannot call home you cannot connect to pc.

>>410354979
It's possible, canadianfag just got too cocky.
It takes one ghidra enthusiast that will check difference between 2 last versions, and then act, as dev.mode secures you can do whatever you can to patch apks
>why you didn't do that
I actually considered to start reverse engineering project before, but for Linux Streamer app, using ALVR solutions, but A770 fucking sucks

>>410355554
>the only way to add/retrieve the username is to pass the purchase check which is done through the meta servers (?).
You can set headset name on PC, which does license check
However you cannot set headset name on Quest, and unless this feature is pointless, it should be already enough for verification

>>410355554
kek so if someone buys it and their internet goes down or buy it to use it somewhere without internet it's useless?

>>410356203
Pretty much. The cracked version still works (i can upload it if anyone needs btw) and there is nothing the nigger can do about it if you firewall everything properly.
I bought it myself, but I wouldn't be upgrading personally. If something happens and I would need to reinstall, I would just install the cracked version.

>>410355554
hmm if you have dev mode enabled could you not simply make cracked apk that connects to the pc anyway? or would full quest2 root be needed for this?

>>410356713
Should be possible but you need to reverse engineer the apk and write a patch.
It's outside of my area of expertise.

>>410356431
What the greedfag doesn't realize is that his sales aren't rapidly dropping due to piracy, if it cannot be pirated the pirates won't buy it anyway (most of them won't) and just not use it at all.
The reason is the market is saturated, who wanted vd already bought it mostly, so there are no people left to buy it. Such is the fate of not having monthly subscription.
His next step will be to slime his way onto the pico store i suppose.

what's happening with the devmode toggle in the latest quest firmware btw?
i've heard it disappeared, have people figured it out yet?

>>410356812
I'm kind of tempted to do it just out of spite, but i am too lazy and would probably fail.

>>410356937
I've heard hotfix brings it back or something
>using up-to-date version

>>410356937
No more piracy for you fagget, sorry :')

>>410356946
i thought about it too, but i think the time would be better spent learning and improving ALVR
the faggot doesn't deserve anymore exposure, let him slide into irrelevance

>>410357070
jokes on you, my quest is never connecting to the internet ever again

>>410357159
not very smart either, the updates bring some pretty big upgrades actually

>>410356937
It's a bug. Should already be fixed when running latest versions of firmware and the oculus app, from what I've heard.

>>410357380
like?
the last non-meme feature q2 will get is QP controllers support.

>>410357074
>learning and improving ALVR
It will be possible to backport to ALVR VD features, like SSW or other shit he will add which ALVR lacks
Just implementing guy should be different from reverse engineer, and it will be legal as in clean room

Anyone have the Quest Pro controllers on Quest 2? Should I get them?

>>410357401
>bug
naive... so naive you are.

let me explain it to you,
they did it on purpose because it stops all piracy as you cannot install unsigned appks without dev mode, then they will monitor how much sales raises in meta store as pirates will be forced to buy the games, and then they release a ""fix"" to put the devmode back, then take a while to analyze the data and decide if the sales spike was big enough in order to make it worth removing the dev mode permanently.

>>410357540
>Just implementing guy should be different from reverse engineer, and it will be legal as in clean room
Bro, who gives a shit?
For example, it's common knowledge that most emulators devs use the leaked dev docs.
Just don't worry about it and if someone asks just say just you dindunaffin :^).

>>410357741
pirates dont buy games. They just stop using the platform. There are papers that go back into the 90s that have shown that combating piracy doesnt raise sales

>>410358493
that may be, but piratefag tears are a potent aphrodisiac

>>410358493
it actually hurts sales
people who fight piracy are retarded and only hurt themselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84M55-TL5go

>>410357741
According to my contacts, it really was just a bug, basically caused by their lack of staff and chaos after people being laid off.
No I am not Brad, though I am in contact with him and have a network. Trust me or not, whatever.

>>410357675
>Should I get them?
If drift stick is not fixed(which is likely), 300$ for controllers is a fucking scam

>>410358553
Really? I cant remember one drm solution that hasnt been cracked and the funny part about it has always been, that they are not bothering the pirates so much, as the autists among them see it as a challenge. It is usually the casual gamer that gts annoyed by it and leads to reputational loses for publishers and devs

>>410358750
Works fine on my machine. I just blow air into the sticks and that fixes the drift right up.

>>410358845
many games exist where cracking the drm took weeks or months even, which is when most sales happen, since people who would pirate bought it as they weren't willing to wait.

>>410359117
I can assure you, its not those that would pirate the game that buy during that time - they can wait. I pirate because I wont buy a cat in a bag. Anti pirating doesnt raise sales

>>410359583
>Anti pirating doesnt raise sales
It absolutely does. Not all pirates will buy it but a bunch of them will if the drm holds for long enough.

>>410359938
It doesn't. Your judgment is based on shallow and retarded assumptions.
Watch >>410358627

>>410359938
No. There are two kinds of pirates, those that simply wont buy, ever for whatever reason and those that pirate to test the product or deem it too expensive and dont want to be bothered with 2 hour refunds. The former simply wont buy, the latter likely is going to buy but is in no hurry. Anti pirating measurements wont raise sales.

*sneezes*

>steam workshop coming to H3VR next year

>>410371424
Bjg if true. I've lost count of how many modding systems h3vr has gone through until this point. The amount of firehoops I have to backflip through just to play on 1 or 2 maps that may not even show up or work properly and that I'll play for a hour and then never touch the game in over 6 months at a time is simply mind boggling. Blade and scorercy is just as horrendous.

>>410378102
It's also be getting built in tools that will handle a lot of what mods have been used for in the past.

>>410371424
>H3VR next year
Any specific timeframe, or should just expect it by Q4 2023 as not specified?

>>410383859
Well, the save/load system was meant to be done in August, but he burnt out and just implemented random guns instead for 2 months, then switched to Christmas content so it could be any time. He's also started things in the past and never finished them, so maybe never.

>>410061709
>shillseeker finally admits that bonelab wasn't a good game
Called it the game was going to be repackaged shit as soon as the gameplay trailer came out. Friendly reminder that you should always be doing your part to slag off influencers and deny them of engagement

>>410272925
>Who even IS this guy, anyway?
aging twink who just happens to be autistic about VR. Has decent technical understandings of tech/optics/ergonomics and actually digs deep for infomation instead of copy+pasting like everyone else. Is a healthy pessimist which indicates actual experience instead of all the other influencers who are just covering shit for a adsense paycheck. He's alright in my book

>>409794006
Because then all you'd have to do is groom kids to go around murdering people.

>>410392171
>always be doing your part to slag off influencers and deny them of engagement
cant argue with that.

>>410385364
I see, ETA Q5 2077 then

Page 10

>>410411241
page 11

>>410298334
>>410288382
>Makes spinning noises
>Require an annoying initial setup and another one if you happen to move it
>Requires space and an ideal placement
>Expensive

It is a huge meme when you have the Meta pro controllers who do their own tracking and the tracking is flawless while being much cheaper and far more convenient in terms of setting up. The only advantage lighthouse has is body tracking and that's it.

Time to check out the Pavlov update feed.

>>410417759
Thanks Dave

>>410359938
>t. retard

The EU government suppressed a piracy study paper they paid for to find out if piracy effected sales when it proved it didn't at all. Not the type of thing you would try to memory hole if it was insignificant.

>>410358750
How much does two Valve index and 2 Base stations cost? Where I am, it only costs 40 dollars more than the Valve Index. It offers base station tracking with zero base station required and is higher quality than the Valve controller. The economics of the Pro controllers are far far better than the Valve index. The joystick and buttons feel better. The controller itself has a nicer feel to them with nice grippy material. It has great weight to them which makes the Valve controllers feel cheap in comparison. It's way way smaller in size, the haptics are better, and it has magnetics which make for the easiest recharging ever with the 45w charging dock.

The main pro I'd say the Valve controller has is of course the finger tracking and how the strap is pretty nice although I fucking hate the fact that the strap isn't removable.