/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1556

first for cat in charge

>>467102378
Ah, my delivery is here.

>>467102690
Cool

What's in your VR backlog?

>Meta (((accidently))) broke sideloading on newest quest update

>>467103394
Sushi Ben and Convergence when they come out. If Mullet Mad Jack ever gets a VR mode official or fanmade down the line I'll give it a try.

>>467106294
Stop posting this shit

>>467103394
looking forward to Stilt and Sushi Ben, need to play Maskmaker and Wanderer from the vr humble bundle a few months ago.

467106294
Wrong thread lil bro

>>467103394
Absolute SLOP that I bought during the pirates vs. ninja fest. There is an insane amount of ninja VR slop out there, and even some VR sea of thieves clones that are all fully dead (I skipped those).
Right now Karakuri Kengeki is left on my todo list. I already played Sairento which is actually pretty good for a 2018 asset flip.

>>467106650
Sushi Ben seemed like it was gonna be really fun but I got what felt like an hour or two in and there was nothing much to do, not sure if the start is just super slow and then gets better or what but I stopped playing before i could find out

>>467106449
no, we need to know who is responsible for the continuous degeneration of this community

Redirected walking tonight at 19:30 UTC get ready for walking again, in about 2h

>>467108191
what is redirect walking?

>>467108191
What game is this?

>>467108458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toXUEYjj70o

Is there a base out there with a lalafell/draph kind of body? "Potato" style?

>>467111549
You will get kicked for how your avatar looks if you wear that

>>467111549
now THIS is peak pedocore

>>467111549
This thread didn't need to see a Lalafell in underwear anon...
as to your question, Kon-chan is quite potato-y

>>467111981
with hips like that? nah

>>467112142
Lalafell is toddlercon, Freak.

>>467112197
looks more like a midget than a toddler

>>467111549
Choobie.
You will get kicked, not only from the instance, but by everyone in full body tracking if you show up looking like this.

You're not gonna get kicked for wearing that (usually), but you will genuinely face problems and scorn if you show up in an avatar that looks like that if it is even the slightest bit sexualized. Just sayin'
And if you find yourself not scorned, you are probably in the company of people that you don't want to be with

>>467112597
>Choobie
that's not the name of the avatar, but of that one vr dancer that is notorious for using her

At least wear a Femra avatar if you're gonna look like a final fantasy character

>Choobie
>Kon
>Potatoes
Nah, potatoes are potatoes not humans. They're more like flat chested short-stacks. MAX pear shape and short.
>>467114021
>Femra
Gross

>>467114376
A base like that doesn't exist. You'll have to make it from scratch.

Trek TNG, A Je To, Malcolm
https://vrch.at/v9tn78x0

>>467111549

I love Choobie.

>>467120221
Damn she has really grown up

>>467114376
hmm have you tried not having dogshit taste?

>>467120468
I want her to look at me like this.

>>467108191
starting now:

https://vrch.at/9mw9anue

>>467111829
Would /vrg/ really boot someone for being a lalaphile?

>>467122304
yes, because even in the most lenient case, that shit is for >>>/trash/vrlg

>>467122304
EU? Maybe not. Primetime NA? Maybe not. Fuck around and find out. Final Tranny 14 and its ilk from that general is humongous in vrg either way so take that as you will.

>download booth cat
>no shape key to make breasts smaller
wtf

>>467121751
moving
https://vrch.at/xzz36tc5

>>467112756
>4chan community
>not ok with lolicons

>>467123598
lalafells are gross
if your avatar looks like its from xiv youre getting shunned

>>467123598
Like /l/, you've had people before you that just couldn't keep it to 2D and essentially ruined it for everyone. There's still loli avatars around but anything sexualized and more fetishized like lalafells are going to be ostracized. And let's be real, this isn't like the elins debate. They look more like toddlers and none of your cope will actually change that.

>>467123598
gay thread, sorry

/vrg/ finally hit the point where furry has become halal while cunny is reviled. What happened?

>>467122304
Considering everyone is a degen in instances I doubt anyone cares

>>467124497
>>467122304
Cunnyfag cope is unreal lol, always get kicked out of every group for just being weird
Just hide your fetish like everyone else, you do not post cunny in groupchats, you do not post cunny in the thread, it is literally a fetish just like HRT, people don't like it when you post that either. That's only accepted because 99% of /vrlg/ is into that.

>>467123598
It's literally like having an hrt-based sex avatar. People are going to think 'that guy loves being groomed'.
If you walk around as a toddler, people are just going to think 'that guy wants to fuck toddlers'.

>>467125849
>hrt-based sex avatar
What?

>>467126246
Male avatar, budding breasts, etc. It's just literally their fetish. I think the same way of that as I do about a fucking diaper wearing child anime avatar.

Do you guys have recommendations for Egyptian themed VR games I can celebrate Black History Month with? I'm playing Serious Sam right now.

>>467127127
Theif Simulator

>>467103394
just crossing my fingers the next SL0 game isnt fucked

>>467127348
ty anon. I forgot that this game got a VR port.

>>467103394
A lot of Doom and Quake mods. Quakespasm VR finally got updated to work with Alkaline so I'll have to see if it's earned the reputation it has on /vr/.

>>467125849
Why haven't I made a based HRT avatar yet? That's a good idea.

The Sanrio Show by Rock concert is really good!!

>>467128726
Uohhh default moe sob sob

>>467128726
can u molest them?

>>467128726
don't you have to pay to get into this?

>>467127127
Asgard's Wrath 2. They even made all the Egyptian gods black.

>>467132272
That's not black

>>467132430
She's at least the lightest of them. The rest are pretty gorilla tier

Was Resi4 VR any good?

>>467137185
The Quest version is so-so. The PSVR2 version of the remake is amazing, better than the Quest version by far.

>>467131997
nope, its free. you just have to show up at the time the event happens. theres a calendar on the official website.

>>467131997
that one is free

A few threads ago someone mentioned an escape room game with vr and multiplayer support, what was that called

>>467143614
It's called escape room vr

>>467143614
There are a few, Pop Escape is popular

>>467143779
all of these are singleplayer, at least their store pages say so
>>467143784
Not in VRC, it was its own game I believe
Pop escape is good though, its a shame there hasn't been more maps like it.

>>467132272
Ok i NEED to play this game

>>467144080
escape simulator, vr version comes out er... soon?

>>467144730
I think that might be it, i didn't realize the VR wasn't out yet
ty anon

I tried taking a pic for the vrg trading card game but I couldn't find a world with like war torn destroyed places and stuff. I need a bluehelmet and a PRESS bullet proof vest on my model to really commit to the bit.

>>467147964
what are you planning to do with your recordings anon.

>>467121751
Good walking

>>467149342
nothing. I started it as a school project (only the professor will see it to give me a grade) and now I do it as a bit/gimmick because it's very fun.

>>467149465
WE WALK FOR DEMOCRACY

>>466938019 (Cross-thread)
Valve isn't entirely innocent of missing filters since you can't filter to only show games with VR in your wishlist, only exclude VR only games, but that's one much lesser missing feature to Epics no filters at all, what a joke of a company

>>467149941
Although you can ctrl f to search for vr only and vr supported

>>467149941
>exclude vr only is a thing
>show vr only is not
fuck you valve, traitorous nigger kikes

and here you have pypyvids of last last week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0clLYjvogNo&list=PLqVTVLsIotSkOyIKwzbgyVbU1WFPJA4Rl:

NA anime at 10 pm est in vrchat

Yuru Yuri - 04
Yuru Yuri - 05
Symphogear S2 - 02
Sousou Frieren - 24

>>467152604
>Yuru Yuri - 04
>Yuru Yuri - 05
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>467152604
>not picking at least 2 eps of symphogear g

>>467152604
just lmk when sousou is starting

>>467111549
Don't listen to the troons that replied to you before, now look here https://sisters.booth.pm then pirate one or something

>>467154318
Starting now. Join fast!

>>467154571
kys

>>467154707
That's it. We are watching it without you now.

$600 used quest pro worth it if I don't have a headset yet?

>>467155857
You wouldn't be able to troubleshoot the quirks.

>>467155857
it's a good deal

>>467156069
Maybe an year ago. Not right now.

>>467155857
Don't forget you'll have to buy a good wifi6 router, powerbanks, better strap, light sealing facial interface...

>>467155857
Sure, but if you want a far cheaper entry point, a new Quest 2 is ~250 bucks and the only thing you're giving up is eye and face tracking plus the ability to track your hands behind your head, all of which are currently largely meme features.

>>467156445
And QP is not "Just works" headsets.
Neither are controllers.

>>467155857
buying any headset right now is a bad idea. Do not get into VR unless you enjoy compromise and disappointment.

>>467156707
It's been 5 years since index and there still isn't a headset which is just straight better and not a sidegrade.

>>467156639
>And QP is not "Just works" headset
>Neither are controllers.
Can confirm. It's a great headset/controllers when it works but it almost never "just works", especially when you start adding full body trackers, they seem to just have lots of interference issues with each other.

>>467156853
lol
this is wrong, but the original post is right

>>467156853
I hate that this is the truth anything else is cope and compromise.

>>467156952
Name a better headset, no compromise

>>467157676
Any modern headset without a wire beats it.

>>467157772
nah, having to charge/replace batteries every 1-2 hours is shit
still streaming artifacts even with a wifi 6e router

>>467158042
shut the fuck up, if you can deal with a wire and freshnel you can deal with those

>>467158171
>compromise

>>467158531
wireless > wire

>>467157772
>worse audio
>worse microphone
>worse comfort (arguably)
>worse tracking
>worse pcvr "just works" experience, all jank
>video compression
>video delay
>dealing with batteries
>dealing with synchronising different playspaces for FBT

I said "no compromises"

>>467153338
the best anime ever made

>>467158910
>>worse tracking
>>video delay
These are straight up wrong.
Batteries are non-issue.
Audio, I give you.
Wire still makes index an unacceptable headset. You buy a vr headset to move, not to seat with it.
The game designed has suffered enough of leashcuck tyranny.

>>467159254
I think you mean Non Non Biyori

>>467159352
Oh, and even as a "social" headset, index still sucks ass because of no eye/face.

>>467159352
>not to seat with it
have you ever even used a headset with a wire? It's not like whatever you seem to think it's like

>>467159667
Try to spin.

>>467159784
I can spin. Just not more than 10 times around in one direction. If it were that limited nobody would put up with it

>>467155857
Just do it, don't listen to the miserable fucks here

>>467159352
>>467159784
> You buy a vr headset to move, not to seat with it
>Try to spin.
most VR dancers use index because mixed tracking is dogshit

>>467159784
what do you think vr dancers use homie

>>467159352
>no tracking without light
>loose tracking of hands when grabbing a backpack
>no fingertracking
>no additional configurable utility input AKA touchpads
>qpro controllers which were supposed to alleviate the camera tracking issues overheat, loose synchro and are overall pain in the ass
yea, totally not worse tracking.

>need to do the same as index (render the frame, send, over the wire, then decode, and send it over internal eDP to screens)
at best scenario wireless headsets can match wired delay, at worst they have deocding, reprojection, internal DP connection which induces 1-3 frames more delay.

Wire doesn't stop you from moving at all. Wire is as much an issue as fanny pack with batteries at most.

Also compression cucks have no say about VR video, you never seen an uncompressed VR signal at all, you wouldn't ever understand.

But my point stands. There is no "no compromise, straight upgrade" from Index. You gain some and you loose some.

>>467159993
>>467160148
>>467159909
They are constantly aware of the wire.

I know exactly what you "I can spin" means, it's means "I'm rotating with a fucking stick".

>>467160360
>>no tracking without light
Stopped reading here.

>>467160478
>I know exactly what you "I can spin" means, it's means "I'm rotating with a fucking stick".

LOL, LMAO

>>467160478
>"I'm rotating with a fucking stick"
what do you mean by this? stripper pole?

I started with an Index and moved to a Qpro
There's no comparison
I have zero desire to go back to the Index
Cope some more

>>467160554
It would be funny if it wasn't the truth. I hate stick cancer so much it's unreal.

Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 reminder, we're currently running 2000cc in New Zealand.
You'll have until the Monday after next (3/4) to run, so get some practice in beforehand if you need it.
Club link is in the OP rentry if you're interested.

>>467159254
no

Expected host here. I think we're gonna do golf today instead of poker. See you guys there!!

>>467159254
>>467159254
Wrong, best anime ever made is Funny Pets by Ryuji Masuda

>>467160690
There's compression but its barely noticeable from my perspective.
Steamlink's dynamic foveated encoding only gives me the best quality out of Airlink,VD and the link.

Local dimming is a killer feature too and i would never go back to tethered headsets anyway

>>467160360

>no tracking without light
get an IR lamp/ be able to afford a lightbulb

>loose tracking of hands when grabbing a backpack
uhhhhh get a clear playspace?

>no fingertracking
fair, there's yubitora but its kickstarter jap only project

>no additional configurable utility input AKA touchpads
Qpro technically has touchpads on the thumbrests, bah - a pressure sensitive touchpads but there's no documentation on those and nothing uses it

>qpro controllers which were supposed to alleviate the camera tracking issues overheat, loose synchro and are overall pain in the ass
Wouldn't know, unironically works on my machine, i do have an odd tracking loss once a while though

https://vrch.at/ev3y66s9 NA Mahjong now. Come drink your sorrows away while clacking tiles.

>>467160690
>admitting you got zucced
I'll say the pancake lenses and resolution feel so good for reading smaller text tho

Index with 3 vive trackers and I'm quite happy. I could get a beyond or pimax if I wanted a headset upgrade, but I'm hopelessly holding out for Deckard.

Zucc can Succ ma balls

>>467160690
>>467167840
having to use a facebook account and be connected to it, as well as financially supporting the active subjugation and demise of vr as a whole counts as a compromise

>>467167223
3/4

Valve Prism, PLEASE

>>467152604
https://vrch.at/vnu6jpzq

>>467154318
will

>>467163401
>loose tracking of hands when grabbing a backpack
>uhhhhh get a clear playspace?

How do you think a Quest tracks the controller behind your head and how is it related to having a clear playspace, anon?

>>467163401
Retard

>>467177065
Zucc pays him per post to shill just ignore

>>467111549
Don't listen to the perpetually angry shitters.
Some of the most popular models are these cute chibi animes. You'll be loved for using one.

This guy's boothstore has some of the best
https://mukumi.booth.pm/

This one has a more potato style but a bit less popular
https://sisters.booth.pm/

>>467073429 (Cross-thread)
Posting some pics from the recent SEA explore cause didn't manage to yesterday

>>467180157

>>467180157
Would you go through hell for your FUMO?
Reminder to finish your FUMO avatar!

best VR games for this feel?

poger tonite?

>>467180524
he cute

>>467180847
I was thinking golf today. what do you think?

>>467180969
Yes they are cute but also pic related. Are you sure you still want to pursue them?

>>467180157

>>467154318
starting in a minute

>>467181376
that guy looks like a liberal

>>467181564
They're cyberpunk!

>>467181752
blue hair liberal

>>467181752
>They're
Oh so its a tranny

>>467180157
Peekaboo

>>467180157
This guy is your entertainment for the night. What do?

>>467180157

>>467182148
Biggest tranny in the game needs to work on her voice training still sounds like a dumb bogan.

>>467182431
Woops actually forgot the picture, I am retarded

>>467180157
All systems go

>>467180157
I can't believe A is becoming Donald Trump

>>467180157
Der kino shot

>>467183441

>>467180157
The sense of adventure on this map was really good. Would play again

>>467180157
German Tourism

Slightly Unexpected Walkabout mini-golf is starting now!
Lobby name: vrg

Where are the digital girls

>>467184836
right here >>467181376
>>467181752

Honestly shut the fuck up

I hate trannies

ffs

>>467178865
My beloved bean....

>>467180157
We caught a catfish but it was still spazzing out so we had to put it out of it's misery

>>467180157

Well I bought Requisition VR cuz it went on sale for 66% off and gotta say it is rather disappointing.
I feel like you could kinda directly compare it to boneworks little horde mode. You just get crafting instead of like good interaction with enemies.
The best way i can explain is that boneworks it feels like everything exists in that 3d space with how your melee, enemies, and yourself interact with each other and the environment.
In requisition zombies will do a sudden burst of speed when they get close to your and flail at you hitting some massive hit box around you. While in boneworks they really gotta be up in your shit grabbing you in order to deal damage.
You swing an axe at their head they either get decapitated instantly, do some little canned animation, or ignore it completely. Which just feels way worse than boneworks where it really feels like you are swinging through them with how they react to it.
Finally I decided to type this up cuz I fell through the fucking floor with no ability to unstuck myself cuz my other hand got stuck elsewhere so I couldn't access the menu on the watch.
5/10 pretty mediocre cuz I like some ideas but the core just doesn't feel satisfying maybe it's more fun with others

>>467180157
Can someone help me fill in what they said in this?

>>467184103
What world is this?

>>467189963
Forgot the name but It should be on the filename at the end

>>467189515
they probably said something like
KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI KANI

>>467191217
Uhh like this?

>>467200229
purple hair was better

>>467202032
I hope we see a return to purple yubu

>>467202160
Hopefully for Booth-Ban Friday

>>467101819 (OP)
:: FUMO FEBRUARY | March 02 ::
What is this?
Make your avatar into a FUMO and we will enjoy a good time together looking at each other’s fumos for fun for the month of February!
On March 02 we will host a Group Photo followed by a FUMOXploration that will have /vrg/ exploring a few VRChat maps that are FUMO based.

Use this as base: https://booth.pm/en/items/3496184

When?
EU - 19:00 UTC (London)
NA - 11:30PM EST (New York)

Looking forward to everyone's fumos, fumo fumo fumoooo...
Already seeing quite a bit of FUMOs and they're all very cute!

Don't miss out
To not have FOMO
Become FUMO!

>>467202375
Btw we now have confirmed hosts for each timezone for the light FUMO exploration

NA: Asleepysnow
EU: Uzugu

Please be sure to add them as friends to join them!
Itinerary is as follows
1) Meetup starts and people stream in for 30 mins or so
2) GROUP PHOTO
3) Exploration of about 3-5 FUMO related worlds for 15 minutes each
4) GROUP PHOTO 2
5) Public raid with our FUMOS

What are some of the craziest/best group names you have seen on VRChat so far?

Thought this was a cool world until I saw a grave and realized it was actually a memorial for someone oops

>>467203164
Oh damn like someone actually died?

>>467203760
Yeah, it had a time and date on the back of a grave with an avatar standing in front of it, which has some uhh, interesting implications...
Anyway moving on, war.

>>467203835
War is hell...

>>467203835
Kino. Oh btw since you are a fellow exploration enjoyer, try installing VRCX then activating it's screenshot modifier so the wrld_id is placed on the end of the filename like pic related.
You might appreciate it

>>467204016
fugg not another reason to install vrcschizo tools

>>467204016
Seems neat, might write my own thought since I've already remade my world finder script thing now with AI™ . I'll definitely be stealing code

>>467203037
Personally I like to use groups to describe myself better, I like horizontal gooners the best

>>467203835
>>467203970
>>467204212
What world?

>>467203037

>>467203835
>>467203970
can I have the war world link?

>>467163401
Toilet-chan, you got controllers working properly without lowering the strength of haptic?

skull

>>467208402
>>467207321
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_3e58c8c3-6d5d-4a73-a358-da70af7d702d
gomen I was cooking

Note that the jerkiness was in the game not just the recording.

LG-Made Quest Pro 2 in 2025
https://www.uploadvr.com/lg-quest-pro-2-ships-early-2025-report/

Had a look for a model myself but couldn't but where do you find that helldivers 2 model for download

>>467212605
Slowpoke News.
It would be a mess, Zuckfuck sucks at software, but decent at hardware. And they want to force him to only software. What a retarded decision.
Hmm, but maybe tracking algos are decent actually. The OS is trash though.

What I'm really excited about is the next gen of controllers, the first gen has too many issue, revision is needed 100%.

>>467212957
Agree, Quest OS is absolutely trash (good thing I barely use if for anything non-PCVR) and the current Quest Pro controllers overheat even without using them.

>>467208989
Yeah, im using them on max haptics

>>467213043
>Quest Pro controllers overheat even without using them .
They do overheat when they lay flat ie. im using HOTAS/Steering wheel instead - i assume its either my controler grips or they just use hands for heat dissipation.
Never had them overheat when in actual use though.

The OS is kind of shit i agree though pico's was even worse

>>467214895
>They do overheat when they lay flat
Oh that must be it. I play VRC with Index controllers instead so I constantly get that message.

Another graveyard...

>>467214975
If you're not using them have you tried just unpairing them completely? using handtracking just to boot PCVR?

Ending on a non-grave related post. At least the world ID thing is working, might add some sort of world history/favorites thing tomorro

>>467215646
Handtracking doesn't work with SteamLink. This was the reply from Valve:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/353380/discussions/11/4038102696017711499/
>We added a modification to the SteamVR beta that is currently out to de-prioritize "always on" controllers, like the Quest controllers, so that they can more easily use hybrid tracking setups. We encourage users who are working with hybrid tracking setups to opt-in to the SteamVR beta.

>We evaluated hand tracking pass-through, however, we are unable to allow users to turn it off selectively within our app.

>There is an adverse impact to the rest of the headset's system for users who are not using it. We are periodically re-evaluating this, but we have decided at this time to keep it turned off.

I was thinking about AVPro competitors again.
Main ones are Meta+LG and Sams+Google. But you know the thing about google? All their phones have the source code of the android image available.
If samsung doesn't try to to put their ugly dirty gook hands on the OS, we might have a good headset for enthusiasts, all the "400gb of space just to compile android" mess aside.
Which might be the case, because everyone says sams is responsible for hardware only.

>>467215826
I saw them roasting you at the steam forums. Sounds kinda retarded. I wish there were more details, I know from the meta docs that OC modes are not available when fast-tracking is enabled, but is that really that necessary? Why can't they just show a warning if the user has hand tracking enabled in the quest settings, something like "Hand tracking enabled, experience may suffer" or something, so at least it's usable. How are they that starved on compute resources, that they MUST have OC? Doesn't make sense.

>>467216365
Google is also known for killing all their projects in short time.

I want my GNU/VR headset.

>>467216576
Google phones/tablets are alive and well. Headset is basically a phone strapped to your head.
Source code is available. There are some blobs but with enough interest everything could be reverse engineered, so we could have GNU/VR headset.
But you need big players for hardware, there is no way around it.

>>467216862
i wouldn't call anything using Exynos/Tensor as being well but you do you. and im heavily suspect that they will try to use that for their headset because muh samsung fabs

>>467217178
>i wouldn't call anything using Exynos/Tensor as being well
Can you elaborate on that? I'm a bit disgusted by android, so I really know it that deep phone side. I only know about chips used in soc devices.

>>467217464
>so I don't really know*

>>467217464
Exynos are samsung SOCs known for having inferior performance in comparison to Snapdragons while also chugging more battery and heating more
Tensors are Google's SOCs used in pixels, they're actually rebranded exynos.

Also Samsung fabs are inherently shit, Snapdragon 8Gen1 was made by them and it was overheating - so they relased 8Gen1+ which was literally the same chip but made by TSMC fabs, it performed way better.

>>467217780
Isn't that a hardware issue mostly? I was talking more about software side.
Sams's fabs can produce serviceable chips, didn't nvidia use them in the ampere gen. Yeah, they switched back to TSMC the first moment they could, but 3000seiries cards were fine honestly.

What is the current state of Steam Link Linux port?

>>467220790
Not supported and unlikely to be supported anytime soon, we're stuck with ALVR/AXVR.

>>467222987
Details. I'm not interested in the high-level overview for braindead retards.
I know the dev was working on a port, I remember seeing screenshots of SteamVR on linux running steamlink.
I wonder where he is stuck right now.

I hate space calibrator. I also hate wireless compression. Jumping through hoops to get non-lighthouse headsets in PCVR is a pain in the ass.

>>467223241
>Jumping through hoops to get non-lighthouse headsets in PCVR is a pain in the ass.
What hoops? You put on the headset, open what ever link software you use, then play your games.

>>467223241
I just use the fork of it that can utilize a Vive tracker on the headset and auto recalibrates when it detects drift

>>467215336
How do you find worlds like that? I want to explore.

>>467223217
Steam Link depends on some Oculus SDK shit and since Linux support for Oculus SDK got dropped after CV1 someone will have to either rewrite it or use Monado.

>>467223880
>Steam Link depends on some Oculus SDK shit
What retard made that design decision?
Are they unironically retarded? Why limit yourself to oculus only when the avalanche of vr headsets is right around the corner?
Are you sure about that info btw? Where did you get it?

I am planning an EVENT

And (you) are going to help me pick the day it happens

I don't even know the theme yet. I will probably pick it a single day before the event. That is ALL THE WARNING YOU GET

>>467224670
what
is it your birthday or something? why would you plan to have an event before deciding what it is

>>467224789
Because:

There's a dry spell of events coming up
I'm bored and need ideas
Anything is better than falling asleep in LS media again and again.

>>467225102
Have you considered playing VR games

>>467225102
vr game lobby

>>467225160
My thought exactly.

>>467169196
There is no social media account requirement.

>>467224074
There was thread on Quest
>leddit
where someone gutted all the DLLs and it's also the reason why Steam Link only works with Quest and none of the other standalones for now. Valve made it pretty much exclusive for Quest and Windows.

>>467225102
Is there really a dry spell
I was thinking of doing one but it seems like there are a few scheduled already

>>467227484
I got plenty of time to plan for it because the dry spell isn't right away

Why is getting a pcie wifi6 considered a bad thing? I don't want to pay for an overpriced router.

>>467233217
well first you would want a wifi6e card, not just wifi6, and unfortunately there has been quite a few issues related to using them in general, weird compatibility with motherboards. Also i believe the M.2 versions seem to work better than a normal PCIe.

>>467233217
Not a problem as long as the chip is not cucked and can open AP normally. Can be even better potentially, because pcie connection is not limited by 1gig ports of cheap routers.

>>467233217
Windows hotspot is terrible, and that's what you would end up using to connect your HMD to your computer.
Being a more common commodity, an equally priced router is likely to be of higher quality.

>>467234096
Is there really no third party software to create wireless AP that don't suck? I remember every vendors having their own brand during the WinXP days

Are there any good night time driving maps in VRC?

>>467224670
april fools day event or something
everyone uses TDA/gumroad sloppa

>>467239496
kemono day

>>467238040
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_f7a25364-c6a5-4b12-af64-c67bd95ef960

connecting a head is so hard

>>467223880
Does it? You don't need Oculus software for steam link to work.

>>467239616
yeah but for some it wouldn't be an april fools joke

>>467240217
bridge edge loops, don't just try to stick the end of it onto the surface like that

Hi, Monday Chess + Mahjong will be without Chess tonight, sorry about that.
Mahjong will start at 22:30CET/21:30UTC (~4h from now) as usual

Out of town for the week but my HaritoraX wireless should be ariving for friday night, can't waiy to try it out for pypy. Hope you can chest track in shooters so I can grab stuff from a chest rig without as much guess work.

>>467240854
attaching the base wig part of a hair to a head it isnt fitted to is so hard
(please tell me there is an easy way)

>>467243835
you might be able to get away with solidifying the wig part so that it goes beneath the skin, then sliding the outer edge down by selecting the verts and tapping G twice.
don't forget to fix the UVs on the neck bridge

I'm so done with people

>>467247240
Have you tried playing VR games

>>467247280
Yeah that's what Im trying to do now, I just give up

>>467247240
what happened sis?

>>467247838
I'm tired of being a little stupid cuck who gives all his attention and becomes clingy af and as soon as I pull away I get all their attention back, its TIRESOME

>>467248014
Imagine being a fucking loser who gives attention but gets none back haha

>>467247240

>>467248014
You should learn something this

vrg wrestling will be returning with a new season but I need fresh blood. Post a picture with your avatar ( preferably in T-pose) and name the file your name and ill try to add you to the new roster. Also a YouTube link for your theme song, it has to be at the minimum 60 seconds long. If your clothes have any decals post them so I can put them on your wrestler

>>467258457
If we were in old should we bother?

>>467159352
Tracking accuracy is technically better on modern SLAM headsets, however Quest Pro is still the only set where your controllers aren't shit (unless you use Touch Pro with something else), that said there absolutely, undeniably is video delay. You have to encode and then decode the video stream and this takes time. Transmission of the video signal also takes time. I can notice this on every streaming headset I've used. Index just feels more responsive. Full stop. I've used multiple streaming headsets and they haven't replaced my Index yet. Cope harder.

>Batteries are non-issue.
Depends largely on use case
>Wire unacceptable
I'll take it over batteries and lag any day, and unless you VR in a fucking warehouse I guarantee you don't have a large enough space for it to significantly restrict your movement in-game.

>>467260410
Go for it, the original was on wwe2019 and all of the previous wrestlers were lost.

>>467260571
>at said there absolutely, undeniably is video delay. You have to encode and then decode the video stream and this takes time. Transmission of the video signal also takes time.
You don't actually understand how it works and just talking out of your ass.
Quests can beat index at 90hz easily, latency wise. Index needs to run 120hz minimum just to beat the proper quest setups.
>Full stop.
Yeah, you should.

>>467260571
>Quest Pro is still the only set where your controllers aren't shit
I talked to this at golf with someone who has both Q3 and QPro and he keeps whining about how the QPro controller keep on drifting like crazy

EU Monday Mahjong will be starting now as there is no chess today.

https://vrch.at/2xs9sjdk

Since St. Patty's is coming up I wanted to spark some discussion for March 15th, the closest Friday to St. Patricks.
As you may or may not know we're doing another dance hours that night, but the "spirit" of St. Patty's is as far as I understand it that we drink. Heavy drinking and then dancing is a recipe for disaster I imagine, so I had an idea in mind.

Instead of the usual 2-3H dance we do, we start off early (10-11 PM EST) and have /ourDJ/ live mix for two hours. After that, we'll enable a transition period where we gather song requests. Kind of like how we used to gather your songs back in the old days.

After the transition period is over, we enable a prerecorded mix by the DJ for the remainder of the night. If you're wondering why we're doing this, that's coming up now.

An anon pointed out last thread that in general clubs and rave worlds have a fun aesthetic but the music that autoplays usually isn't that great.
While my skills in world creating don't hold a candle against modern VRC world makers, I think I can make a decent enough club that would capture the same "vibes" with less shitty music. I don't mean for us to stay in the same world for 4H+ though, people can hop whenever but well recent trends do make us sit in a world for quite a while.

Tl;dr the world we stay in for the event isn't just for the live mixing and we can celebrate st. patty's without feeling like you "need" to dance at all times as after the first 2h its just bgm and we can put song requests back in.

Thoughts? I hesitate a little because it feels like I'm trying to keep everyone in the event world, which I don't really want either, just for the people that do want to stick around.

>>467258457
I forget but I don't think I'm in right? I'm the elf on the left in pic related

>>467261567
I've heard mixed things about Quest Pro but it's not like Index controllers don't also drift, Every headset-tracked controller system I've used I can't even hang my arms at my sides or they fly off into another solar system

>>467261567
I actually don't know a single person from this thread or in-game aside from maybe toilet-chan that doesn't have issues with their QPro controllers.
I remember when they first got released people here were talking about how amazing they are cause its self tracking
But in reality they have so many other fucking issues with them that even though they technically have better tracking than Quest 3 (tracking your hands at your side on Quest 3 controllers is quite awful in comparison), in reality the Quest 3 controllers are much nicer to use because they Just Work™

>>467261176
>Quests can beat Index at 90Hz easily, latency wise.
They really, really don't.

>>467261896
nope, i have is blue haired elves atm

>>467261896
>Thoughts?
I'd be down for something that isn't just dancing for the entire event.
Can you do something about the large amount of furries that keep appearing at these events hosted by the halo crowd though? Last dance hours was overran with them and I can count at least 5 in that screenshot.

>>467258457
What is this about?

>>467262407
You don't know shit, retard. Shut the fuck up.
Break down the whole rendering pipeline first, both of index and quest. Maybe you will understand how idiotic you actually are. Then you can talk.
Index is far from optimal latency wise.

>>467258457
Let me know if you need a different picture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg9XPcPKYAQ&t=131s

>>467262407
>>467263002
>Break down the whole rendering pipeline
And I don't ask you to hand wave it like "polling, rendering, encoding etc", I mean millisecond by millisecond.
Then post it here. After you do at least some work, I might spoonfeed your stupid ass and show where your misunderstanding lies, if you don't realize it yourself of course.
Otherwise, fuck off, retard.

why are questlets always so angry?

because leashcucks keep posting retarded shit

>>467261896
sounds fun. are you saying he will mix the requested songs? or just play requested songs like a youtube queue, and then go to a prerecording after?

>>467263507
>I'm going to make a claim and therefore have the burden of proof but you do it for me and I'll try to refute your claims when you invariably find out I'm wrong
Yeah nah. Cite your sources or gtfo, that's how it's always been here.

damn blackouts always leave some kinda problem...

>>467264272
Eat shit, retard. You don't know anything.
Index better latency? Prove it.
>b-but muh wire good
Wire has to transmit raw image. It takes time too, you cretin.

>>467262686
>Can you do something about the large amount of furries
Oh yeah about that.
Due to the massive amount of people that attended, I honestly was very lost on how I was going to manage/herd these separate communities. I can't stress enough how moderating 141 people is hell. I simply wasn't ready enough.
The main instance that was constantly full should have been pretty clean. What you're seeing in that image is the overflow instance which to my mistake is the same instance that was also advertised here. Personally I think there should still be segregation between the two. Events that get advertised here are for the people here. Instead I'll make a separate instance for the 4ch furries who do wish to attend these and a world link won't be posted here instead. The anchors will also change for those who don't want to see furries so everyone wins. Just don't join on the haloboys then, because they clearly don't care about them.

>>467263889
The requested songs will be handled by a bot that does transitions. It's nothing fancy though, it also depends on how many song requests we get too. After that it's a prerecorded mix.
There's also been talk of doing live song requests through discord and posting youtube links there but by now you should know I prioritize thread users so your requests here go in first.
>>467262586
ill get to it asap

>>467261176
Yes, VD tuned for performance can render, encode, transmit decode a frame in 30 ms, which is arguably faster than index 40 ms, but you are also convieniently forgetting that Quest, after receiving the frame has to reproject it, copy it over eDP from GPU to displays and wait for vsync, which would induce additional 22-33 ms delay. Either post your analysis or shut the fuck up.

>>467264625
... think the problems found

>>467264883
That latency is motion to photon. Your post is just wrong.

https://streamable.com/0ww82q
Batteries for elbow trackers arrived.
Also i discovered you can use FBT in Blade & Sorcery and i think that's the greatest thing since the dark messiah of might & magic.

>>467264883
it will also will look like ass at those settings

>>467264847
>Just don't join on the haloboys then, because they clearly don't care about them.
pretty sad to see how far they've fallen, from the majority not even browsing the thread anymore to being openly accepting of furries. yikes.

>>467264736
>Hurr durr transmitting and processing the raw image the same way a monitor does takes more time than compressing it into H.264/HEVC/AV1, sending that data over the network to a router which then sends it over the air to a headset which then has to decode the video back into the display signal the index would have processed and display it
Yeah nah retard cope harder.

>>467265012
I don't believe the VD tranny, it definitely does not include at least 8 ms of transmission time over internal DP which the screens are connected to quest GPU.

>>467265179
>>Hurr durr transmitting and processing the raw image the same way a monitor does takes more time than compressing it into H.264/HEVC/AV1, sending that data over the network to a router which then sends it over the air to a headset which then has to decode the video back into the display signal the index would have processed and display it


Not him, but depending on DP version, and render resolution it can take 7-10 ms to transmit the raw frame.

Quest encode, transmission,decode takes around 10-20 ms, depending on the settings. And then GPU still need reproject, to copy it to displays, wait for vsync.

>>467265179
Do the math, smart ass.
How much data is actually being transferred through wire. You will be surprised. Compression is efficient, welcome to 2024.

>>467265251
>I don't believe the VD tranny
Same, gay goblin is untrustworthy. Good thing we don't need to trust him. There is another way to check.

>>467265059
How do I unsubscribe?

>>467265473
>Quest encode, transmission,decode takes around 10-20 ms, depending on the settings. And then GPU still need reproject, to copy it to displays, wait for vsync.
Wrong.

>>467265548
OK here's the math: One device processing and transmitting the data is less than 3

Just post the latency study, jeez

>whole argument has boiled down to both sides calling each other wrong and fucking retards as often as possible
can you two dumbasses either get a room or either of you post anything to back up your arguments instead of just shitflinging back and forth insults at each other.

>>467258457
Kill opposing wrestlers. Behead opposing wrestlers. Roundhouse kick an opposing wrestler into the concrete. Slam dunk a wrestler's baby into the trashcan.

Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_e4YX73Ww4

>>467265812
Oh? So one device processing and transmitting 10x of data, would still be faster?
What about 100x? 1000x? When does it stop being faster? Does it even?

I hate the leash so much I don't care about any of those arguments.

>>467264847
a separate furry only instance? or furry friendly host? a crossover instance sounds more fun then segregation

How do the quests even do full body tracking?

>>467258457
https://youtu.be/Tlu1ZfYr6vA

>>467265958
That study is just one of the pieces. But itself is not enough.

wifi lossy compressed video or displayport lossless compression video, i think ill take lossless compression thank you very much

>>467265958
>Oculus Rift and Rift S
One wired headset is faster than a higher resolution wired headset? Wow, what a revelation

>>467265782
How come? Does the frame magically appears on the screen without sending it to the screen? Also Quest definitely does local reprojection to reduce apparent latency. Also, don't forget that LOCAL PASSTHROUGH has 22 ms photon to photon latency on quest. It's a good estimate how much time Quest needs to render a decoded frame. That's on top of VD estimate.

>>467265548
> There is another way to check.
Then fucking post it. Did anyone measure motion to photon latency in wireless Quest??

>>467266159
Furry friendly host. It'll be another crossover instance where people who hate furries don't have to see 'em.

>>467266059
You need to drink the white monster to keep your figure. All that sugar in the black monster will make you fat.

>>467266483
based god. ty

>>467265958
Funny enough, there was an earlier 2017 study of original Vive and they said:

> This corresponds to a system end-to-end latency of about 22ms. Given our method, this estimate is an upper bound on the true system latency.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5439658/

Something happened between those two studies, which added an additional framebuffer

>inb4 they set "VR prerendered frames" amount in NVIDIA Control Panel to 2

>>467266458
It's not extra latency.
>Also, don't forget that LOCAL PASSTHROUGH has 22 ms photon to photon latency on quest. It's a good estimate how much time Quest needs to render a decoded frame. That's on top of VD estimate.
Local passthrough is very complicated actually. It builds a mesh of the space and then projects colors on it. It's not just a direct camera feed.

>>467265012
>That latency is motion to photon
Virtual desktop numbers are from rendering the frame to decoding it on the headset, you can see that in the breakdown numbers. Best I can tell, any extra latency in the total over what you see in the breakdown is from stuff VD is doing like buffered frames.
It doesn't measure the internal display latency or added latency from when controller motion happens to the point of the game receiving the input.

>>467266580
How about a compromise my niggy

>>467265958
Also another study in 2020

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/J-Jones-4/publication/332231006_Latency_Measurement_in_Head-Mounted_Virtual_Environments/links/5ca7845a92851c64bd5301f9/Latency-Measurement-in-Head-Mounted-Virtual-Environments.pdf

What happened in 2022 study? Where did they get additional 1-2 frames of latency?

https://www.optofidelity.com/insights/blogs/apple-vision-pro-bencmark-test-2.-angular-motion-to-photon-latency-in-vr

>>467266883
Damn you really need it to be black that bad? Ok

>>467267035
>angular
>negative latency
that's not valid, angular latency can be compensated by reprojection. Linear motion-to-photon is way worse, and that's the real delay.

>>467258457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JcM45gaFs

>>467266786
Not really.
Gay goblin did say before that it's motion-to-photon. He might be lying.
But we have Quest Link to compare. And it uses exactly the same tech as the CV1 version. The numbers are the same as in the study, so Oculus Debug is trustworthy.
You can get 33ms locked with usb link at 500mbs.

I'm tired of having the same argument with you retards, so here's the spoonfeed.

>>467266771

>https://www.optofidelity.com/insights/blogs/apple-vision-pro-bencmark-test-2.-angular-motion-to-photon-latency-in-vr

Wait, it wasn't 22 ms, it's way worse, it's 44 ms, that's local processing, of passthrough, which they try to do as low latency as possible

So when a Quest has a prepared decoded frame it takes up to 44 ms to display it, that's the time on top of VD reported time.

>>467267265
thigh gap

>>467267407
wrong link desu
https://www.optofidelity.com/insights/blogs/apple-vision-pro-benchmark-test-1-see-through-latency-photon-to-photon

>>467267407
>So when a Quest has a prepared decoded frame it takes up to 44 ms to display it, that's the time on top of VD reported time.
No. You are just wrong. Try actually reading the post before replying next time.

>>467267381
>But we have Quest Link to compare. And it uses exactly the same tech as the CV1 version.

No it doesn't it does way more, and has more buffers in between, you're retarded.

>>467267407
Forgot pic

>>467267635
Wrong. You don't understand what you are posting.
Passthrough is very complicated. It's reprojection on a mesh, it's not just camera feed.

>>467266731
>>467267018
2017 and 2020 studies are measuring the time of headset movement to the display updating.
2022 study is measuring the time to takes for controller movement to register on the display instead of headset movement.

>>467267758
>Continuing to cope instead of just posting your source
>Trying to conflate studies on Rift/Rift S results and equivocate them to Quest

>>467267541
I read the post, and you have no proof that VD reports actual motion to photon.

But we have photon to photon latency of LOCAL processing which is atrocious 44 ms.

We know that OG Vive had 22 ms motion to photon latency in 2017, 2020, but 2022 study fucked something up and added 1-2 frames of latency for wired headsets (>inb4 nvidia vr prerendered frames setting)

22 ms motion to photon make sense, as game rendering takes up to 11 ms, and then saturaded HDMI would take around 9-10 ms to transfer the raw frame, directly to the screens.

We know that for wireless quest we have 11 ms for game to render 10-20 ms for encode/transmit/decode + up to 44 ms for local decoded frame to be processed (reprojected, copied to screen, show) + unknown time of tracking data being sent from Quest to PC.

So we can expect quest to have 43-75 ms of latency + controller polling.

>>467268153
Go back.

>>467268197
Not reading niggerspacing, format the post properly, retard.

>>467266232
Currently they don't. You use a hybrid setup, so your PC is does the body tracking and attempts to keep the playspaces in sync.

Meta could make the best headset hands down in every category, i wouldnt care. i aint buying metashit

>>467268035
Headset movement to display updating is still motion to photon, it's using the same lighthouse tracking. I refuse to believe that lighthouse controllers take 10-11 ms to report their position. How bad is the quest input delay then?

>>467266483
>>467266159
>>467265157
Any amount of furry tolerance hastens furry acceptance and normalization in the community and is bad.
I don't really expect to change any minds so it's a battle I won't fight. I'll just patiently wait for you all to reap what you sow and then tell you that I told you so.

>>467268284
Post measurements of wireless Quest having sub 40 ms motion to photon latency or shut up forever nigger.

>refuses to read properly spaced post
you have to go back retard

>>467268437
There is nothing wrong with this, its literally just a texture swap. Monster Girls are fine, robot girls are but you draw the line at Kemono?

>>467268668
When you reap what you sow you will not be allowed back.

>>467268368
Valve fucked something up. CV1 beat Index by 17ms at the same refreshrate.

>>467268618
Eat shit, niggerspacer. You literally ignored the studies because they don't fit with your narrative.
It doesn't matter what I would just say "no", because you are a fucking retard from reddit.

>>467268668
bait used to be believeable

>>467268786
>It doesn't matter what I say, you would just say "no"

>>467268437
>I don't really expect to change any minds so it's a battle I won't fight. I'll just patiently wait for you all to reap what you sow and then tell you that I told you so.
I feel the same way but I also really hate to see a community I love overran with furries. They really are just a plague.

>>467268786
2 out of 3 studies say OG Vive has 22 ms motion to photon latency, 1 says 30.

>It doesn't matter what I would just say "no"
Getting angry for no reason?
Just post the Quest wireless motion to photon latency and horrors will end, provide source. Provide proof that quest can do less than 40 ms. For now you are the retard baselessly claiming impossible things.

>>467184379
Oops forgot to post it. Good golfing fellas

>>467268437
Why do you care what happens outside /vrg/? I just told you they won't be in your instance. Try not to let them live rent free in your head cause it might normalize them over there too.

>>467265059
cute!

>>467268786
>1080x1200 per eye OLED is faster motion-to-photon than 1440x1600 per eye LCD
The display signal still needs to be processed and the OLED panels themselves are faster, this isn't surprising.

>>467269191
I'm just going to unfriend everyone in the furry instance, and so should everyone else. It's time to put your money where your mouth is.

>>467269168
>For now you are the retard baselessly claiming impossible things.
Nice projection.
The shit like
>up to 44 ms for local decoded frame to be processed
made me laugh. Post more jokes like that. But try to dial down the retardness a little bit. Right now it's a bit too much.

>>467268437
Yah sorry I dont really care. I rather someone was "4chan" than reddit, and western furries tend to be just like western Tda twitter troons. but if they are not thin skin, social justice, moralfags, and they are funny gamer meme enjoyers, Idgaftbh. It makes about as much sense as banning loli to me, in that it makes no sense.

>>467269394
>>467268980
Are you fucking retarded?

>>467258457
im a retard again and fucked the transparency
https://youtu.be/P4MiC67seUY?si=bYwbEAjLG95EAL0S&t=22
starting from 0:22 please

>>467269607
YES
>>467269625
name Kris Sippin'

>>467269276
thats a good idea

>>467258457
https://youtu.be/MM1j0YUjrCw

>>467269427
post
the
source

>>467269276
Are you unfriending the fags from /trash/ too? Or /vrlg/ is ok?

>>467269937
That's up to you. I'm not your boss.

>>467269937
Here we go again with the furries and their whataboutism cope

>>467269862
trust
the
science

>>467269937
If you unfriended people in vrlg there would be nobody left.

>>467270220
I would be left!

>>467270142
How I can trust the science if you don't even post it, while the science and calculations about expected latency on wireless and wired headsets has been openly posted here?

Wired: 22 ms
Wireless: 43-75 ms

Refute this with actual measurements or show your calculations instead of coping and reeeing.

>>467270467
:3

>>467270079
But I'm asking what you're doing. I kinda doesn't make sense to remove just one. I think both should be removed.

>>467270130
What argument against furries doesn't also apply to fags, aside from visuals?

>>467269937
I think coomers are often weird and gross and am not friends with the worst ones.
This is, however, a false equivalency. Coomers are a menace but furries are an existential threat to any non-fur community. There's a reason they've been traditionally shunned and banned from 4chan spaces.

>>467270142
>trust
>the
>science

>there is no science
Ah, so a false claim then. Thank you for clarifying

Someone post that degradation of a hobby image from last week to blow this guy out again.

>>467270668
>I think both should be removed.
Then do it. Like I said, not your boss.

>>467270640
Numbers out of your ass. What is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Oculus Debug is proven to be right before. Prove it's providing wrong numbers now or fuck off.

>>467258457
Close enuff to full body whatever outfit u like u can pick the theme it’ll be funny

>>467270668
>What argument against furries doesn't also apply to fags
Fucking humans is fine. Fucking dogs is not

>>467270839
>oculus debug of CV1
>comparing oculus debug to 22 ms of actually physically measured latency

RETARD

>>467258457
Ohhh hell yeah. Let's fuckinnnnggg gooooo

Opening Theme for pic related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWB01IuMvzA

>>467270925
So the children are fine too?
You disgust me.

>>467270925
why do some many coomers have dog and horse cock on their models then? thats not right, worse than a simple texture swap

>>467270786
Why you think furries should be removed, but fags are allowed to stay? What is the difference between them?

>>467270925
Oh, about that. You know some dogs got monkey pox sometime ago?

seeing some of ya'lls music is getting me hyped on that alone

>>467271062
>putting words in my mouth
nice try

>>467270779
the real mistake was not capitulating to furries but pacifying our great filters like orb and mamamad. people join our meetups now and it just seems like normies that occasionally say the nigger word.

>>467271002
Oculus debug is consistent with the study. Vive doesn't have 22ms latency. Keep coping.

>>467270839
>What is presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence
But there is evidence of game render taking 11 ms, VD encode/transmission/decode taking 10-30 depending on settings/wifi and local processing of a frame taking up to 44 ms.

Adding up to whopping 85 ms of latency in worst case. and 21 in absolutely best case, with inclusion of magical instantaneous Quest GPU to display connection.

While wired headsets are proven and physically measured to have 22 ms latency in most studies except the one which botched something and added 1-2 frames of extra latency.

>>467271154
I'm curious. How many vrlg do you think fuck in child avatars vs how many vrfg fuck in actual animal avatars?

>>467271265
mamamad is a rando that spams images of CP from their avatar
orb has never been funny
neither of them are filters or gatekeepers, they're just faggots.

>>467270923
Actually W I take it back here’s u a song
https://youtu.be/zZrsPmXLmUE?si=zU2ErZQVAgius9M8

>>467271380
>still trying to put words in my mouth
Is this your only counterargument? Because it's a poor one.

>>467271424
your existence here is proof of my claim.

>>467271313
>Vive doesn't have 22ms latency
COPE

>>467271584
Personally I'm satisfied with it.

>>467271141
Coomers are not allowed to be naked or to coom at meetups and events. Why should we allow guests?

>>467268668
this guy looks fucking NUTS

>>467271349
>local processing of a frame taking up to 44 ms.
There are not.
You are pulling numbers out of your ass. Simple as that.
> in most studies except the one which botched something and added 1-2 frames of extra latency.
Aka I don't like, so it's dismissed. Not how it works.
Prove that oculus debug is lying.

>>467271634
If you argument is the last study is fake, go make another one instead of pulling numbers out of your ass.
I trust this, because the numbers are consistent with Oculus Debug, which explicitly says "Motion-to-photon latency".
So oculus is lying, the most recent study is lying, but you are correct. Ok, prove it.

>>467271839
>Fucking animals is bad
>W-well fucking children is also bad so fucking animals is okay!
I'm not surprised you're satisfied with it, you want to fuck animals.

>>467248014
Quit playing trannychat. Your mental health will improve

>>467272020
>He posts the funny study that doesn't include wireless headsets again and tries to conflate it with them
You really are this retarded, huh?

>>467272020
the issue with wifi streaming is wifi is not consistent, sure the best case of a quest 3 might be better than an index or whatever wired headset. But thats the best case, now shove it in reality where you have all the wifi bandwidth for streaming plus you have the bandwidth of downloading and uploading during a multiplayer game and its now a different case, then chuck in multiple users on that same wifi and its even worse. Meanwhile the index cable is always consistent, thats not changing cause youre sending player data or voip in game.

>>467261896
Hmmm so you want a free flow in and out system hangout map near the dance floor, correct?

How do you feel about buying pre-built world assets?
It’s not for everyone and definitely bruises the map makin ego a but but I have one I really like that very few uses.
This one here matey https://lura.booth.pm/items/4490469
What do you think?

>>467272020
OG rift was such a miracle, holy shit. best headset of its era, best controllers up to this day, idealistically correct outside-in tracking that shits up your usb bandwidth and hogs processing power because it's processing image from glorified webcams, and now it turns out it also has lowest latency even compared to index at its peak. we need oculus back

>>467272020
>You are pulling numbers out of your ass. Simple as that.
I'm pulling best available numbers of actual physical measured photon-to-photon latency, which is all locally processed.

>If you argument is the last study is fake, go make another one instead of pulling numbers out of your ass.
I've provided 2 studies showing that the newest one might have had a misconfigured PC.

>I trust this, because the numbers are consistent with Oculus Debug, which explicitly says "Motion-to-photon latency".
And yet you've shown a debug value for a wired oculus headset, not wireless.

SHOW MEASUREMENTS OF WIRELESS QUEST DELAY OR STOP COPING

I'm starting to get worried about my canadian frens...first bans in pokerstars, next time it'll be getting banned from life...

>>467272086
Ah, I see the misunderstanding now. It was intended as a rhetorical question due to the overabundance of examples on one side and the corresponding lack of it on the other.

>>467272313
Disprove the study, faggot. You are saying it's fake.
You whole argument is based on it. Don't try to backpedal like a bitch now.

>>467272368
It's not that hard to build an optimal setup. This is not an argument.

>>467272569
So now you agree that oculus debug is not lying and numbers are correct?
Or does it only lie sometimes? You don't make sense. It's just funny.

>>467258457
Youtube is down so im dumping it on vocroo https://vocaroo.com/1olRNIiwZ7ld

>>467272785
how do you suggest building an optimal setup then. buying even more equipment?
if the quest was good you would be able to just use it stock and not need to waste money buying a ton of extra shite, unlike an index. hardly anyone mods their index, basically every quest user has to mod theirs to make it a semi capable headset. Quest is a shitty headset

>>467258457
>>467258457
The Beast from the East has arrived. I hope I can fit in, i've wanted to be part of something like this for a long time.

You can use this song as my theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgG4H0_mYzE

>>467272785
Even if the study you posted is correct, you've yet to prove in any capacity that the Quest is lower latency. You cannot use results from the Rift, which is also a wired headset, to demonstrate that the Quest, a wireless headset that incorporates additional steps to go from motion to photon, has lower latency.

Post your proof or gtfo.

>>467273040
>YouTube is down
nigga what are you talking about

>>467261896
Yeah sounds like a good time :3

>>467272785
>ou are saying it's fake.
I never said that's it's fake. I said it's suspicious that it got 1 frame more latency than two previous studies, and that might be caused by misconfiguration of the PC

>So now you agree that oculus debug is not lying and numbers are correct?
I don't trust them as much as I trust 2/3 physical measurements of OG Vive. You've never shown neither physical measurement of wireless headset latency and not even an oculus debug of one. You only shown old ass screenshot of Nvidia funhouse on Rift-S, which makes me suspect you don't even have VR.

>>467265059
yeah tight! I was on the fence about getting elbow and chest tracker but this seems worth it.

>>467273041
Index also costs $1k. More than 3 times more than quest than index was still considered a headset worth buying.

>>467273305
> a wireless headset that incorporates additional steps to go from motion to photon, has lower latency.
It's not lower. It's higher. By ~11ms, which is consistent with time for "encoding/transfer/decoding".
Oculus debug show locked 33ms with 500mbps bitrate with usb link. It's still needs to do everything, encoding/decoding etc. I don't have a picture, because oculus debug doesn't show on screenshots, you need to make a photo through the lenses.

>>467273482
>which makes me suspect you don't even have VR.
And would know so much about everything. lol. You really are stupid.
I posted the screenshot to show that the numbers are consistent with the study, at least for CV1. If we know the numbers are correct, we can trust the numbers displayed by quest link. It's simple logic, no need to just through countless hoops like you, with muh misconfigured setup etc, heh.

>>467272397
That is correct and you're temping me to throw money at my problems and its half working. I'll bookmark it.

>>467274091
quest 3 is $499 retard

>>467274091
>And would know so much about everything.
you clearly don't

Reminder that Hatsune Miku supports white power.

>>467274392
>when index was still considered a headset worth buying.

>>467274091
>I don't have a picture, because oculus debug doesn't show on screenshots, you need to make a photo through the lenses.
>he doesn't know

If you are so knowledgable, then what's the internal eDP link speed between Quest screens and Quest GPU?

>>467274091
>It's not lower. It's higher. By ~11ms

>>467261176
Then what the fuck have you been arguing this entire time? That you're wrong?

>>467274508
the index hasnt changed price desu
id still buy an index over metashite anyday

>>467274639
Compared to CV1 obviously, you idiot.
Why would I try to compare apple to oranges. Of course both devices have to use the same tool, otherwise it doesn't make sense.

>>467274674
Proud of you, pochi! Hand!

>>467274958
POST
THE
PHYSICAL
MEASUREMENTS

>>467274958
So what you're saying is you have no proof that this is the case, also USB link is not the same as wireless, as you skip the entire part where your router does its thing. if you're still wired what's the fucking benefit?

>>467275045
>OCULUS DEBUG IS LYING
Ok. Prove it. We have evidence to trust it. Provide counter-evidence or shut up.

>>467271424
>mamamad is a rando
They have proven they post here from time to time specially during event times. So at the very least they lurk

>>467271313
A picture of Oculus debug with numbers that happen to fall within the range of a different study isn't really conclusive evidence. Latency measured purely within the software shouldn't be treated like it's the same as an external measurement.
I don't trust that study for anything more than a comparison of the headsets that were all tested together.
>>467272020
Being inconsistent with other measured results is a good enough reason to question why the numbers are different. I wouldn't just throw them out, but it's enough reason to at least look at the testing methodology. For what it's worth, that study does use less accurate hardware for measurement, although not enough to account for the difference between the studies.

>>467275287
They literally have a discord where their orbiters spoonfeed them /vrg/ event info. They don't lurk, just the retards that egged them on do.

>>467275138
It still needs to decode/encode and transfer. It's to prove the point.
Air link is very fucky, zuckfuck messed it up. But we can use usblink as a benchmark, because it still needs to do all the steps but we bypass the shitty wifi transfer implementation.

>>467275287
Mamamad is a rando and a rando magnet. And just a person with an annoying attention seeking gimmick.

Also that's jelly you're replying to.

>>467275186
>>467275313
the proof is that its not possible to measure the full end to end latency without external hardware. Theres a long pipeline between moving the headset and seeing it on the display, you have to use external hardware to measure that.

>>467275548
The shitty WiFi transfer implementation matters, retard. If you have to use a wire to get latency approaching the Index then you can't use wireless as a benefit of what makes the Quest better than the Index, because it's not.

>>467265059
Yooohhhh that looks very cute M
i am very jealous

>>467258457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWpCdUQLWwU
I'm sorry if someone else was already using this specific song, I can't remember.

>>467275313
>Latency measured purely within the software shouldn't be treated like it's the same as an external measurement.
While this is true, you can be pretty sure Oculus knew exactly how things worked for their headset.
If you were here from 2012, like I was, you would know that they treated motion-to-photon latency very seriously. I personally have enough trust that the numbers are correct.

>>467275767
Not really. Manufacturer knows the specifics of the hardware.

>>467275789
Way to miss the point. Reread couple of times, maybe you will get it. Otherwise, my condolences.

>>467258457
https://youtu.be/guklDEpSwhk

>>467275739
I won't deny the first two you are saying lol. You're right on that. But they've mellowed out so nicely, can understand them pretty well these the days.
They're definitely somewhere AU with their login times.

>>467275953
right but comparing results between headsets by different manufactures requires you to use a set standard testing between them, so you must use external hardware to test them.

>>467276169
Why are they still playing this game?

>>467275739
>Also that's jelly you're replying to.
why the fuck would I be the diaper fag? just because I said orb isn't funny and called mamamad a rando (which they are)?

>>467276275
But if we know the different between headsets of the same manufacturer, and one of the headset is measured with external equipment, we can extrapolate and get the latency of the other headset.

>>467276310
Friends I assume. They're friends with some of our other australians and the more schizo types among us like K the yumineki guy and F the fun guy. These two alone have given them really good quality attention that I'd reckon they're the reason she mellowed out.

Attention seekers are like that. They seek attention because they felt neglected as a child growing up. Being able to give quality attention soothes this behavior and makes them feel more at ease.

>>467276682
>Being able to give quality attention soothes this behavior and makes them feel more at ease.
This is the absolutely wrong response to attention seeking behavior holy fuck are you retarded?

>>467275953
I don't need to re-read shit, my argument was that streaming headsets are laggy due to video encode AND TRANSMISSION and thus being wired is better, and you've just conceded this point. The argument is over. Way to misrepresent your counter point the entire time. If the best argument against Index is "Well you can get way shittier video quality for roughly the same latency" then you have already lost. Especially since even with USB link you still have to deal with batteries.

Questlets just keep coping.

>>467276806
Is it? Then why is mamamad much more mellow now?
Note I used the word "quality" attention. That word is important. It's not just paying attention to their antics. It's about being able to connect

>>467276934
I'm not reading all that leashcuck cope. Happy for you or sorry that happened.
For me, wire is unacceptable for a VR headset.

>>467276460
no you cant since the rift and quest are massively different. plus the video encoding time will be different depending on the hardware used.

>>467276965
You faggot mamamad orbiters spent years egging on a mentally disabled person to be as disruptive as possible towards this community and now you're pretending like you're the reason they're "fixed". Hilarious.
Attention seeking behavior should be ignored and the people that do it shunned, especially when said behavior comes at the negative expense of others.

>>467277221
>You faggot mamamad orbiters spent years egging on a mentally disabled person to be as disruptive as possible towards this community
I have never done this and neither have K and F.
You're imagining a scenario in your mind that paints and assumes the worst in people. Be better

If you can find proof that K and F specifically egged on bad behavior I'll back down. But don't you try to smear them like a dramafaggot. Peace is possible

>>467277120
>plus the video encoding time will be different depending on the hardware used.
Why would that matter? I personally don't give a shit about garbage setups. 4090 is 33ms @ 500mbps. Locked.
Your argument boils down to "we can't trust Oculus Debug anymore". Ok, yeah, I guess you can make that argument.
Another study is needed to prove if Debug is still indeed correct, but at that point you are already in the doubt land, so you have to do it yourself to be absolutely sure.

But from personal experience and feel, the numbers seem correct, I trust the OculusDbg myself.

>>467277513
>Peace is possible
Nah, kill yourself. Spend over 3-4 years attempting to crash nearly every /vrg/ event that gets posted and then doing deplorable shit like blast images of IRL CP.
There is no peace with a creature like that or their supporters. I wish all mamamad simps like yourself a very pleasant fuck off.

>>467277863
i personally dont give a shit about garbage setups like a quest.

>>467258457
>>467271025
Oh and here are the decals for the uniform and armband if they could be useful for you. I have no idea how the editor works for the wrastlin game.

>>467277089
Who's coping anon? If I wanted to use streaming VR or wired USB link I would.

>>467277513
Is this Yuki once again going to bat for mamamad?

>>467278482
You're an index fanatic. It's fine. Do what makes you happy.
Wired headsets are trash.

>>467278580
If all you do is sit on your ass in vrchat looking at a pixeled screen through fresnel lenses and you are happy, you can continue doing that.
I consider wire unacceptable.

>>467264625
Anon why is there cum stains on your controller

>>467278952
wireless headsets are trash.
oh boy i cant wait to have to switch my battery again its only been 2 hours since i last did it!!!

>>467279153
Implying a magnetized drop in hot swappable battery swap is a big deal you cablelet

>>467279153
I've been using wireless headsets exclusively for a year and a half now. It's so good

I have never looked back after I got my quest pro

>>467279153
Yeah this is the thing I hate the most about wireless headsets. You'll be lucky to even get 2 hours, usually it's like 1hr 20 mins and then time for another battery swap! Not to mention how heavy the headset starts to get by adding batteries to it.

>>467279153
Nice strawman, but it's more like 2+2. Just so you know.
I know gooning in vrchat is important and engaging that you don't even take a break once in 2(or 4) hours, so all good. I understand.

I prefer wired everything if I can, because battery life on wireless headsets is especially shit.

I also like base stations so I can use full body tracking

>>467279526
what headset has 4 hours battery life? everyone i spoke to gets about 2 hours.

>>467279627
2 from internal battery and 2 from external.

>>467258457
here you go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLCK5xoHzCM

>>467279329
>Not to mention how heavy the headset starts to get by adding batteries to it.
There is a way. The pocket strategy with a long wire

>>467267035
blah blah blah numbers fags! I don't care about latency if I can't feel it then it's irrelevant

>>467279741
thats just cope. youre destroying the internal battery so youre going to get much less than that very quickly

>>467279940
JIBUN WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>467279978
>thats just cope.
The fucking irony.

>>467278952
You considering the wire unacceptable is fine, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. Just don't pretend like you can match the latency performance of a wired headset, when you can't.

Maybe one day eventually we will but that day is not today. Me personally the biggest obstacle is batteries. I have a hot-swap battery setup for my wireless sets and even then, the batteries last like 90 mins and I spend far too much time in VR for them to get me by. I'd rather simply deal with the wire and lower resolution and fresnel lenses because what is important to me is socializing with friends. If I am doing other things where I am not spending as much time and can easily pause then I use the Quest or Pico.

Also I listen to a lot of music in VRChat and Index audio is peak.

>>467279951
At that point how is it much different from a wire to the PC?

>>467279951
>Wireless is better
>Fix it by adding a long wire

>>467280082
>>467280203
I can still spin around and suddenly jump or roll over in my bed with it.
The battery pack is merely in the pocket on my body so it moves with me still compared to a big PC

You have to find a properly length wire or a clip to coil it properly to correct length

>>467280045
>Just don't pretend like you can match the latency performance of a wired headset, when you can't.
You can. You didn't disprove anything that I've said.
>what is important to me is socializing with friends
Looks I was completely correct. Not everyone lives in vrchat, "bro". Some people actually play active games, so not having a wire is kinda important. They also tend to take breaks more often, because they don't sit on their asses so much.

Nice socializing with friend without eye/face btw. Heh.

>>467280341
And when exactly are you doing this in VR? Dark Souls VR with IRL roll dodges?

>>467280463
the index has lower latency than the quest 3, thats what i believe. its up to you to prove me wrong now.

>>467280475
CYBER SEX

>>467280538
I agree with anon. Although I don't know if wired Quest 3 reduces latency, but that kinda kills the argument

>>467280591
Cybersex with no legs?

>>467280463
I play shit like Blade and Sorcery and H3VR just fine with an Index. It's a pretty long cable.

>>467280663
wired quest 3 still requires the video to be encoded so it would have that additional processing that DP headsets wouldnt need.

>>467280663
>Cybersex with no legs?
I have both vive trackers and slime VR. Either or works

>>467279153
I just put a battery for it in my tracker harness
can do 8 hours no problem
wow
amazing
it lasts longer than my trackers do
longer than I do

>>467280538
>thats what i believe.
That's completely. Stupid people can believe in anything.
What I don't get is why you care about latency so much if all you do is jerking off in vrchat at cinematic 27 fps, but it's okay. You do you.

>>467280696
>just fine
Yeah.

>>467280876
i play more than just vrchat desu. im still waiting for you to prove me wrong

>>467280942
We are at the stalemate right now. If you don't want to believe the evidence provided by me, there is nothing I can do.
You've made up your mind, nothing I can say can change it.

>>467281058
Anon quits, so anon wins the 3 hour argument. Congrats anon.

>>467281058
you havent provided any evidence showing that the quest 3 has lower latency than any headset, let alone the index.

>>467280876
A single long cable isn't getting in my way. I can duck and dip and kick and everything with 0 issue. You're not really selling much. I can also lie down on my bed and roll around on it if I felt like it for some reason.

You're a confusing weirdo.

>>467281158
If you think so then you can't read, the way you speak is also stinks of tourist, so there is no point even talking with you anymore.

>>467281187
Try spinning. We both know you are rotating with a stick.
If you think it's cool, it's ok. You do you, like I've said.

>>467281443
I can rotate just fine with a single cable, you inbred. It's a cable, not a fucking iron rod holding me to the floor.

>>467281443
i can read, you have not posted any evidence of the actual motion to photon latency of the quest 3.

>>467281495
youre a fucking dog leashes to your pole in the dirt. keep yapping thats all youre good for while we actual humans have unlimited manoeuvrability

>>467281495
Yeah, bro. I got it. Keep coping with your 5 year old headset.

>>467280463
>Air link is very fucky, zuckfuck messed it up. But we can use usblink as a benchmark, because it still needs to do all the steps but we bypass the shitty wifi transfer implementation.
>we bypass the shitty wifi transfer implementation
>the shitty wifi transfer implementation
You already disproved it for me anon. If you're getting a whopping 7ms difference over USB you can bet your ass wireless is worse. Wireless transfer has been the highest latency of everything when I do streaming VR, sometimes in the order of 30ms or more.

>Not everyone lives in vrchat, "bro".
Neither do I, you can do both. Also the period goes inside the quotation marks, stay in school.

>Nice socializing with friend without eye/face btw. Heh.
That's a Pico 4 Pro anon. Again, I can if I want to.

As I already said, I do use my Quest for more active games where I'd actually need to spin around a lot or such, but in games where latency matters or I'm spending long stretches of time, the Index wins every time.

>>467281495
You don't understand, quest op is an aspiring ice skater and ballerina. Your feeble wire can't do the intense gforce generation spins they do on a daily basis.

>>467258457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuq3tsmBS88

>>467281694
>games where I'd actually need to spin around a lot or such
This dude playing crash bandicoot VR or some shit

>>467281616
This but unironically.

>>467281694
What the fuck is wrong with your setup.
Wireless latency is fine and consistent. At least in the gaygoblin app. It's just airlink which is fucky.
> I do use my Quest for more active games where I'd actually need to spin around a lot or such
So the leash is actually a problem now. Curious. At least you admit in now.
>but in games where latency matters
You wouldn't have noticed it, if your setup wasn't garbage. I see why you hate wireless now, 30ms for transfer. Are you using an ancient wifi 3 router from a different building or something? Jesus.

>>467279012
:^)

>>467282187
>So the leash is actually a problem now. Curious. At least you admit in now.
>Thank you for that inch, I will instead take a mile!

>>467282620
It's a doggy dog world. As a leash fan, you should be able to understand.

>>467281058
you didn't provide any evidence.

>>467282879
>It's a doggy dog world
Found the furry.

Also it's dog eat dog dumbass

>>467278952
>>467282879
>>467281616
>>467281642
>>467281793
>>467282187
>>467282620
Watch in amazement as I do what Quest users consider IMPOSSIBLE in a wired headset!!!!!!

Turning around in real life without using sticks? It's some sort of miracle!!!!!!

All you accomplish by feeding the insane quest shill is giving him more advertisement space.

>>467283023
Impossible, how did your headset not explode and fry your graphics card?

>>467283023
kek that final second of the video is a nice touch.
But seriously though, there is a reason when I was wired I don't do that. It's a tripping hazzard and if you spin in one direction for too long the wire starts to get damaged from the tangling

>>467283014
I am sorry to be the baron of bad news, but you seem buttered, so allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out their. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality, because it’s now like the pot calling the kettle cracked. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.

>>467283023
t. pic related

>>467283023
what the fuck is this real?

>>467283023
WHAT THE FUCK YOU CAN DO THAT?

>>467282187
Nothing is wrong with my setup, Latency depends heavily on the resolution of video being transmitted. The worst was actually with a dedicated router (PrismXR Puppis S1). If the resolution is lower and the stream isn't actively changing it can be as low as 8ms but that still puts it above the Index, and I still have to deal with lower resolution to achieve that result. Best results are actually with my main router which is in another room with everything connected to it. It's a half-decent WiFi 6 router (ASUS RT-AX3000). I doubt this is much different from an average setup.

Perhaps even more importantly, with the Index it doesn't matter what resolution I'm pushing, it is always consistent and stable, and you will literally never have that with wireless streaming.

why are leashed users so weird?

why are battery cuck users so weird?

>>467283023
>LOOOK AT ME SPINNING, FAGGO-oh shit WHY THERE IS SNOW IN THE HEADSET, SAVE ME GABEN!!!!!

>>467258457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruZUHBM5BDE
Someone else can have kickstart this year

>>467258457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7OOvSZnmug

>>467283023
>First game VRChat
This video is legendary in my books.

>>467283281
>>467283693
There is 0 way you actually believe that proper cables get that tangled. It's straighter than you, Ahmed.

And no, it's not in some sort of ceiling mount, i'm just holding the cable up to get a better shot.

>>467283723
>>467258457
whoops forgot to change the filename, ouchi

>Furries are also leashies
yikes

>>467283987
Is your base station attached to the ceiling with a fucking...wire clotheshanger?

>>467284028
cringe!!!!!!!!!!!

>>467283023
pfft that's easy you just need to cut out the wire and solder a magnetic connector on both ends

>>467284192
i le epic failed... gomenesorry

>>467283023
>>467283987
>pissed his pants after not even doing 3 full rotations
>"yeah, take that, questkeks!"
Give me a sec, I will show you the true spinning, cuck.

>>467284168
It's also upside-down

>>467284279
this dude wrote this unironically

>>467284168
>>467284373
yeah, and?

being upside down doesn't effect it, I checked. It's a temporary placement until I can set up in a larger room.

>>467258457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZNbabKjKpA

>>467284456
fucking christ my dude just buy a tripod, it's a $150 piece of equipment

>>467284456
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

>>467284587
It's sturdy enough. It's not like it ever gets jostled around, it's set in a way so it never moves, since moving fucks up the tracking anyway.

>>467283698
>>467258457
I forgor the filename and decal but if you couldn't tell I'm Barron

>>467284456
Jesus it's on a sliding rail too lmao. Just screw it into the wall, even if you move it you can just fill the holes later

>>467284784
The sliding rail is disused and painted over so the thing it's attached to can't move anyway. It's fine.

>>467284145
Pretty sad what happened to this community. Endless spoonfed furries with leashes.

Grim!

>>467284456
>>467284673
>>467284857
This has to be set up as a joke

>>467281187
I almost killed myself tripping over the cable dancing. Cable was destroyed. Coulda been my headset.

Is there a decent wireless vr headset that doesn't require facebook bullshit? Id like to not get zucked

>>467283987
Why do you have stacks of DVDs pinned to your corkboard? Good taste with Labyrinth though.

>>467285093
Sounds like user error to me

>>467285171
>Is there a decent wireless vr headset
No
>that doesn't require facebook bullshit?
100 times no

>>467284456
What a based setup mine are wedge between the frames of doors/windows

>>467285340
Yo wtf that's not fair how do we fight an invisible opponent

>>467285171
No

>>467258457
I still don't get what exactly it is. Just WWE fights with /vrg/ avatars? Anyway here is mine.
Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1keUIXDa4EE

>>467285434
Sorry I'm retarded

>>467285171
You can get chink'ed with a Pico instead if you prefer, but otherwise no

>>467285390
and now I don't have to think about it anymore
it's so freeing brother
I just fling myself into walls an stuff

Should I get Pimax or Beyond?

I keep hearing people are ordering beyonds and waiting forever still. The few who did get them got the wrong IPD and are waiting for replacements.

>>467284456
Holy shit mate. Fucking fix that shit it's gonna fall down

There are three tiers of OSHA violations just on how that shit is setup

>>467223241
I hate it too, but fuck me I'd never touch a lighthouse headset with a ten foot pole after having to deal with lighthouses and all that crap for fbt. I view it as a con of steamvr and base station tracking moreso than a con of wireless devices.

>>467285416
very kino anon. Here is where my second base station is temporarily set, for now.

>>467285785
Beyond, smaller headsets are just plain better, you don't want an even bigger heavier brick on your face

>>467284456
>>467285416
I wanted to put one up high in the corner of my room without damaging the walls so I bought one of these long cheap curtain rods and nigger rigged it into a ghetto tension rod by extending it floor-to-ceiling then jamming a toothpick into the spot where the two parts meet, then duct taped the base station up high. It's been up there for over a year now.
The other ones just on a cardboard box.

>>467286120
this is fine, though the base station should be on the right so the figures are behind it and don't occlude it, but egads man fix that other one

>>467285785
>pimax
lol, lmao even.
get a bigshit begone

>>467286110
>>467223241
Slime VR does not need to have it's space calibrated. It just works via assuming the headset is the true anchor always for the simulated bone structure

I LOVE DOING THE SKII POSE
Tapping the chest tracker twice to reset drift feels like I'm Iron man

>>467286384
It's Rock Solid and also temporary. I'd have to go over and yank on the cable or reach up and shake it around by hand for it to move even a decimeter.

>>467286437
>translimeVR
no thanks

>>467283023

>>467283281
kek

>>467258457
Since I've changed models.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDWoZ3Gg29w